>>21079671You can't just nuke everything
>>210796713rd for fuck the Solar Envoy.
>>21080787Yes, you absolutely can.
So....what exactly is in the Angel-Pac?
>>21080788The Solar Envoy isn't real, it can't hurt you.Not anymore.
I wanna impregnate a bydo core!
>>21083009Good news, anon: you can! Just use your Force, it's that easy!
>>21083059Im gonna do it forcefully!
>>21082999DON'T FUCKING LIE TO ME, YOU FILTHY BYDO CONSPIRATOR. I KNOW IT'S OUT THERE, PLOTTING AGAINST US EVEN NOW
How do I get to stage R1.0 in Final 2?
>>21085032By playing the game
>>21080787That's what you think kiddo. Name problems that Balmungs can't fix?>>21082081A torso and head.>>21082999That's what they said about the SLA and they paradoxed themselves back to existence after getting stomped by the player on the Human route?
>be me chilling near mars>suddenly want to go to earth>so do all my buddiesIs this normal? Its normal to want to go home, right?
>>21085762Yes, perfectly normal my fellow human. Come, let us watch the seabirds together.
>>21085538>Name problems that Balmungs can't fix?Uh, the bydo?
>>21086394Yes i love seabirds! They dont shoot at us!
>>21087403I dunno it seems like they kill them good. Conclusion: We're not using enough of them. Intensify the barrage!
R-Type Delta is the only game in the franchise I can consider legitimately scary.
Just picked up R-Type Final 2, Sadly I suck at it.
>>21088564Everyone sucks at itLive Fight Die Repeat.If you get to 7.0 then you will understandGrab the Free April Fool DLC for a ship with Wave Cannon X.Passwords to unlock ships:granzella (Strider, has Proto Balmung)loveandpeace (Wave Master has a 3 loop wave cannon)mrheli (Mr. Heli is a smug asshole)
>>21087403But they do fix the Bydo problem. At least in the short term.
>>21089140Mrheli is really strong in some stages
>>21091045Yea but he's still a smug asshole. Useful but an assholeAlso how do you get 5.1 to open up? I've not poked at it lately since been busy but apparently the improved Frogman Pod has the flippers actually flip when underwater!
Dimensions EX is on sale on Steam, should I get it?
>tfw got my cousin into r-type >She likes it because the setting is like a horror gameI...I dont understand
>>21092927Flavor wise it is a desperate struggle for survival I guess
>>21092927R-Type is literally peak horror aesthetic, so I get where she's coming from.
>>21091078on stage 4 there's those level orbs like on level 5
>>21079671In case anyone wants to rip the models for printing or whatever: https://www.reddit.com/r/RType/comments/newpuy/guide_extracting_models_and_textures_from_rtype/
>>21095175I just want the decals since some of them are pretty good
>>21097222It handles like a cow but it doesn't matter if you nuke them all in one shot.
>>21097457Even a cow handles better than it does. Its only good aspect is that it is massively unga.
>>21098715They really got max seethe after losing the Prototype Cerberus. Since after that they just needed more unga bunga. Isn't Strike Bomber able to do the same even though they nerfed the Mega Wave Cannon in Final 2
>>21099759>tout that the cerb is super powerful and shit>forgot to give it a proper wavecanon so it cant escape bydospace>something even a fucking POW armor could doI would be mad too
>>21099759They lost the Prototype because they never bothered to give it a decent wavecannon. And this was AFTER hyping it up as something absurdly and ludicrously powerful compared to any ship at the time. Of course they'd seethe.
>>21101285>>21099943I dunno the wave cannon tore through pretty much everything ELSE in Delta except that one issue. And the Anchor Force is just bullshit strong as it just trivialized everything, anchor on and just go full defensive and either the boss dies or you get full Dose and you could drop a dose nuke on the boss.At least the Hades should have been able to do the job Charon was just obsession at this point.
>>21101562Lets create an INTERDIMENSIONAL fighter without the means to get out of alternate dimensions! Nothing can go wrong! Lets also pump it full of bydo stuff to make it even better!
>>21101605What could possibly fucking go...oh wait. Least we put it out of its mercy in Final.
>>21103843Tags: Rape, corruption, aliens, mind control, ntr, possession
>>21101605I mean if anything the plan was probably to use a DOSE attack to break through the walls in emergency situations or even just detonate the Anchor Force an last ditch effortRemember this is before R-Type 2 on the timeline and apparently might be the first time they lost a Force without the ship it belonged being destroyed first. Also the tech that the Proto R-13 had for Cyber Connector was advanced enough that the Warhead needed it. Actually thinking about it the R-9C's requirement of an Angel Pac was tied towards just having to dump as much raw firepower and overall performance into the Warhead as humanly possible even if it required removing most of the humanity from the human.The loss of the Cerberus had ripples man...>>21103843Pretty sure what was left of him was long dead and what was left was just pure overgrowth over the controls.
>>21104328>Pretty sure what was left of him was long dead and what was left was just pure overgrowth over the controls.The much darker idea would've been that the Bydo were using his body to control the Cerberus when we saw it in Final.
>>21103818Damn Bydo, invading other universes!
>>21104668Its canon that they do that on the regular.
>>21104527Oh it's probably that his corpse if anything is being directly puppeted. We saw that in Image Fight 2 with the Boonies controlling that dead OF-1's pilot as a puppet to fire on the main character in one of the cutscenes.
Why does r-type have so much thought put into its lore even back when it was new?
>>21105363This series is fucked up and I love it. Especially starting at Delta.
>>21105758So with QT-Cat was it the capturing ship or the R-9 it had within? >>21105397It's the great mystery of the era. Even Gradius got a ton of lore back in the day
>>21093555I love Warrick Inc ships.
>>21105798What I'm more frightened to know is what the fuck happened between the destruction of QT-Cat and when we head back to our base in stage 6.
>Delta stage 6 is coming to Final 2I'm so glad
>>21106042That's the question is what caused the horrific trip to even happen and what happened there. did QT-Cat going boom leave some sort of dimensional anchor to happen and pull the pilots into a pocket dimension where it was more psycoresponsive resulting in the Stage 5 and the boss rush? This would imply that if I had to guess the Delta's pilot is the same as the Arrowhead's one in R-Type 1 since where else are those damaged Bydo coming from?I doubt it's coming from the R-10's or R-13's pilots and I'm pretty sure the playable POW armor's a non-canon Easter egg route.So it just leaves the Delta for that source.I'm still not sure about one thing. Did we ever get confirmation that the Prototype/Early Production R-9 being an Angel Pac user always being a two seater during R-type 1. Dragonfly shows it being a two seater (where by the time of Final it's the R-9A (Late) where it's a single seat ship with the standard Wave Cannon.I'm just not sure when Angel Pac tech was fully developed since it seems to first show up with the R-9C.
>>21106794When was this announced? >>21107294Speaking of that R-9A was it it the one that came back from R-Type 1 or just some rando they saved?
>>21107693Pretty certain Delta stage 6 was announced as one of the DLC packs.
>>21110238Might as well just add every R-Type level at this point.
>>21110552I mean, I'm pretty certain that's the plan.
>>21113125Just wish they would add more launch sequences...
>>21105208It is, but they really need to be put on a leash.
>>21116155They are dead by now so its a moot point.
I thought it was funny that it leads to the first on-screen death on his showcase videos that I've seen.Shit as I am at it, I should seriously consider buying the game. Didn't think they wouldn't just reference Tactics but pull it wholesale into Final 2.
>>21116880Who? Also Final 2 is basically a love letter to the r-type universe and almost everything irem had a hand in.
>>21116987https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyWsl--JXAtWXAsM4pv9KJApuC0FMZrulSomeone that YT algorithm'd to me just because I searched for Silpheed The Lost Planet music a couple of days ago.
>>21118802I expect an april fools joke where all the ships in the space corps are turned into full size huminoid versions of themselves.
>>21120014IMAGINE BEING A PLANT!
>>21079671>>21081676is there a name for this type of screen/hatch where its mostly translucent?
>>21118846Humanized R-13fighter ould be fun. Or horrendously cursed. 50/50 chance.
>>21121194>happy days is a drug dealer and she just wants people to feel good>her drugs her her own secretions produced from sweat glands
>>21118846Not turn everyone into cats?>The Burtgang Cannon is firing. The SRBMs are launching, in order to drive off a sudden ambush of Mad Forest IIIs. The bridge guns are under emergency repairs thanks to the aforementioned Mad Forests. I am saying "Fleet, forward" on the A-band, and the destroyer captain, whose comms are currently down, is trying to break to flank instead. And as I look at the tactical holo-table and see twelve Boldo cruisers about to enter the zone... Lieutenant Hugel hands me a steamed bun.
>>21120316It'd be called a canopy for most planes.
>>21121338I always found it strange that the bydo used units made by the space corps in the tactics games.
>>21120316several shmup/bullet hell/space fighter games have canopies like this, not sure who came first but i think it's a jp design trend>>21121426i dug that, made the bydo feel more like a plaguelike tyranids, the more you throw at them the more they adapt and learn and grow, only the bydo use mechanical tech too
>>21121426I could see a Bydo "skin" for when you're fighting them, but a Bydo-only craft that's R-fighter-themed would probably fall into the loop of people pining after it, especially since DLC has always been on the table with Final 2.
>>21121569>several shmup/bullet hell/space fighter games have canopies like this, not sure who came first but i think it's a jp design trendI might be reaching a bit with this, but when I first saw these fighters from Orguss onscreen my first thought was "Wow, this is totally an R-fighter with arms!"
>>21121194The Digitalius series are complete and utter junkies needing their fix or just having some really fucked up withdrawal symptoms. Seriously it's why that line really never went anywhere was that the pilots were getting more fucked up than the Happy Days pilots>The armor requires a continuous supply of nutrient solution or it will shrivel and become ineffective. Incidentally, the nutrient solution has a powerful narcotic effect on humans.
>>21123004Cerb-chan, i wasnt flirting with Delta, i swear! We were just talking about the proper time to use a delta/dose attack! Your anchorforce is squeezing a bit tight!
>>21121651yeah i thought the same thing lol
>>21093555I wonder if Final 2 will make another R-13 ship just like how they made another OF series ship
Wait we got the R-9uso801 "April Fools II" now?The Machine Empire sent us ANOTHER ship with them flexing on how awesome they are?>>21123721Now this one has a few possible names fitting the theme for the set. Styx and Tartarus might be good names for the R-13B2 or a R-13C which keeps the BIG GUNS BIG FORCE of the Charon but actually puts more than one engine on the fucking thing
>Decide to watch the Delta intro>Cerberus stares at you near the end
>>21124900>The Machine Empire sent us ANOTHER ship with them flexing on how awesome they are?Yes, yes they did. It can use all Wave Cannons and Forces types as well.
>>21126945We really need to give them SPACE SCOOTER RACE correction again.
>>21123004Cerberus is my favorite R-Type girl but where is Rubicon
>>21127570best I can do.
>>21126779It's like if the game knows you should NOT choose this one.
>>21129243Wait...does that mean all ships in the Bydo line are self aware to an extent? Does my Charon know what I have been up to with my mechanic? Is she jealous?
>>21129260I'm more thinking of the fact that the Cerberus is the only one that doesn't make it out alive at the end of Delta. Though your idea is kind of hilarious. And horrifying at the same time.
>>21129291>Any ship influenced by Cross the Rubicon is aware enough that they can have moods>They saw you banging some bitch in the hanger?>They refuse to start up or even let you use the wave cannon>The Sexy Dynamite line wont let their pilots out of the goo after a sortie for quite some time
>>21129291I always imagined the Force units have limited sentience, and while normal R-Fighters are just machines the Rubicon line allows feedback from the force to the pilot through the fighter. In a sense the Force's personality would be the R-Fighter's personality due to umbellical chord nonsense
>>21130137Well the way some forces acted when faced with a bydo core seems to suggest there is something there.
>>21129306If it's got a B-series ship yea it's alive and probably knows you by your using the cyber connectors to connect to it. It probably knows you more than any other human being ever could know after a while. After all the connection does go both ways as you're getting sensory data pumped into your mind to improve performance. And with a B-series ship you're being fed what the ship is literally seeing but translated in a way that the human mind can process it. Your ship is listening to your thoughts and acting to best perform them.As it was in Firefox to use the ship's system to its fullest you must THINK the commands.And when you're connected you probably can hear the ship talking back to you.
>>21080766The greatest creation conceived
>>21131528The eyes ruin it for me
>>21129260Any ship with a high enough Bydo coefficient is probably sentient to some degree. So yes, your ship knows what you've been jacking it to.
>>21133546>cheese the hell out of one in a mainline R-Type game>make the other a mainstay of your fleet in a Tactics game
>>21134198Wow, Kings Mind. Why does the Space Corps let you have seven wave cannons!?
>>21134421Because he's the best.
>>21137148>so OP that they couldn't mass producer her and had to split her into two forms
>>21137245And they probably lacked enough people willing to get the same conversion that Sue Suraster had to get her hard wired to the Ragnarok Prototype.
>>21137245And force she's using isn't even the fucking Cyclone Force.
>>21137331Probably running out of "human" to do that.
>>21137331>>21137422Eh, by the time time of Final or maybe even before that. Normal people can pilot the rags just fine. Tech does advance ya know.
>>21079671So what's up with the Submarine?
>>21138819Its a good thing no one wasted resources on a vanity project in the OF series that was never deployed! Am i right, fellas?
>>21137762Although the Ragnarok MP and Ragnarok II don't have the issue of the hull ship superheating after using the Hyper Wave Cannon. So probably had to tone down some features to make it safe for regular humans, just like how they improved the Warhead so regular people could use it.>>21137811For R-type it first showed up in Tactics 2 as an enemy and yea it's a huge >>21137883 In the Hunt reference. And yes the designs, art and explosions and the like are from the same guy who'd join Nazca and work on being the one setting the art style for Metal Slug!
>tfw bydo>tfw can only feel EVIL >tfw i wanna GO HOME!
>>21134198one of my favorite stages alongside Y3.0
>>21079671>Shoot 5 balmungs>Return to resupply>Do it againthis thing was the backbone of my missions in R-Type Command
>>21141811It's the family of Shooting Stars, even has Grace Note
>>21079671Is it worth buying R-Type Final 2 just to see the Heimdall?
>>21141880It's too busted.
>>21141929Wait for the Remake (It's been confirmed)
tfw no R-Type mod for Homeworld...
>>21145946Its crazy just how BIG that force is. Why is it so FUCKING BIG!?
>>21145946>dropped in favor for the R-9W series
It's come full circle now, hasn't it?
>>21144250I've been tempted to do this, but my priority is a HW mod based on an original concept.Out of curiosity I extracted the unit geometry and textures from both Tactics games, I might upload them at some point.
>>21146248Looks cool to be, but due to the lore of R-Type. Wouldnt basically everything be super broken?
One thing I always wondered, with just how the Bydo work. How do they just not take over Earth with ease? Does humanity have some kind of counter that kind of works so the Bydo dont absorb them out of the blue?
The Fort Geirrod Siege sucks as the GZRA. Each entryway is heavily defended. Principalities lurk in the corridors with their bullshit flame cannons, snipers litter the outside perimeter and there's a fuckimg Heimdal just chilling in the lower entryway. I found out that there's another way to enter through its soft underbelly and rammed all my units through that chokepoint. Was barely able to liberate the facility with 1 turn left on the clock. I'm having fun.
>>21146371Aren't they basically just infected humans who want to return home? That's what the Bydo ending in Command told me.
>>21146387The Bydo are much more than that.
>>21146560>Pilot is high as fuck and doesnt even know whats happening
>>21146376I remember that as GZRA you get to have the Ragnarok at that point. Did you bring a few Shadow Forces along?
>>21146788At that point I only have one force controller.
>>21145946Heat shield/radiators>>21146371A lot of it feels like it's being done entirely out of spite and wanting to make humanity suffer. There's killing everyone and then doing it personally. Dobby keeps coming back entirely out of spite (and keeps getting stuck in the strangest places) because he REALLY REALLY hates the R-series ships.
>>21146310>Wouldnt basically everything be super broken?Maybe, if you followed the source material very closely, but you can do a lot with mechanics and balancing. Wave cannons on fighters could be moderated by making them special abilities that force the player to manually-select targets (the cooldown can be an inversion of the charge-up.)Force modules would be an interesting challenge, the game allows external latch points, plus you can control which 'families' of units can dock or latch.I suppose it all depends on how you interpret the background details and information from games.
>>21147737Dont forget about the different lasers for each craft...unless you just use the reds for em
>>21142796>it's realidgaf if it's nipponese, I brute forced my way to 100% Shin Gihren's Greed, I can do with R-Type Tactics 1 & 2
>>21148701I just hope they make the music not so BORING!
>>21148701The announcement was in English and Final 2 is in English so I'm confident that the Command remake will be in English too
What's your flagship of choice?Mine's the Jormungandr so I can send in stronger ships without worrying about losing.
>>21151098Jormungandr and Nozari are the only based choices, really. Even Hildisvini isn't worth it simply for lack of decoy function.
>>21147840Homeworld lets you specify against which type(s) of targets a unit can use its weapons, so you could just have red as an anti-ship weapon, for example.The issue is how to represent them. The Arrowhead's reflection and air-to-ground lasers do depend quite a lot on terrain to get maximum function (I know Tactics has the former bounce off the edges of the screen and the latter just performs 90° turns.)Possibly you could have the reflection spawn a less-accurate copy of itself on impact.Things, like the Albatross' yellow tentacle weapon probably wouldn't even be practical (to implement or use in gameplay.)
>>21152237>uses Allen from the R-Types opening videoWhat a call back
>>21152491>>21152500So it truly is r-type final....2
You think an iron-man/nuzlocke challenge would work for Tactics?
>>21153692Maybe? You can go back and play old levels for more resources to pump up your fleet so you could easily cheese such a run.
>>21146646Honestly, better that then being trapped fully aware in Bydo Hell.
>>21153808Easy mode>ships lost are considered perma dead>can go back earlier levels to grind resources>can exit levels any timeHard mode>squads killed in combat are dead and can't be used>can't go back to previous levelsWhat do you think?
>>21153929There are not many variables to the tactics games so once you know what to expect you can just play basically perfect.
>>21152500It's skill checking and filtering again.
I need to get back to my R-type TTRPG that I was working on at some point.
>>21156031How does that work?
>>21156492I based it more off tactics and stuff. small scale d6 dice. Still need to stat out hte vast majority of things.
Since R-Type is starting to become more of a common topic around here. Do you think we should start compounding info about the series for anyone interested? It's a bit fragmented ya know and the wiki is a bit of a mess.
>>21158964I'd love to have acces to knowledge of the series for my tabletop rpg rendition of it. I still don't know much about it at all even after looking over chunks of the wiki.
>>21158964That'd be pretty neat, I'd like a new subject to lore-dive into for a weekend.
>>21159413How the hell is desuarchive gonna help anyone? Stop being a faggot, if you got info to share and sources to back it up, share it.
>>21137883Has anyone here ever heard In The Hunt's PS1 soundtrack? Cause it's rather different from the arcade version.
>>21159665Different how? Never played either but i do find it funny how the sub's wave cannon is one huge yamato reference and is claimed to be able to destroy the solar system if it wasnt for the limiters.
>>21160421Youre not a fan of r-type
>>21150002The transforming betrayer...
>>21161844Even with the bydo on their ass, humanity still fought each other...
>>21161844I wonder if they planned it before Tactics to make Eclipse a "traitor machine".
>>21163447They had this ship planned all the way back with R-Types, didnt they?
>>21163451yes alongside Strider, Shooting Star and Midnight Eye.
I wonder R-Type will have a chance...
>>21164148What am I looking at here?
>>21163451Even EARLIER. They were in the Dragonfly/Illegal Operation book and that was in 1991!Hell Sunday Strike was even in there!
>>21165079How deep does the rabbit hole go?
>>21165237R-3/R-5/R-7 are all there too. Hell we discover that humanity had a bunch of non TL-series Mecha units that were taken over beyond the famous Gains series
>>21165269This is why I say we need to get all the info into one place!
>>21165079Is that supposed to be a early design of R-11A Future World on the left?
so for my tabletop I know where to start statting human stuff, with stuff like the standard arrowhead, but where the fuck do I start with the Bydo?
>>21166381>but where the fuck do I start with the Bydo?anywhere
>>21166381the Bydo fighters
>>21166381Litteraly anything can be a bydo. Even walls, yes, walls. They can consume anything and turn it into more bydo.
>>21166134Yea Future World with an inset of the R-11B to the right
>>21166381>but where the fuck do I start with the Bydo?Doby
>>21168366What if we made that force...LONGER?!
>>21141811>>21141912i always keep using the shooting star after unlocking the grace notestriders, shooting stars, midnight eyes are my bread-and-butterthrow in some exotic fighters depending on the mission
>>21166381Everything can be Bydo. Assume that all the shit in a given area that is not an R-Fighter is Bydo.
>>21167235>>21166841>>21166647>>21168247>>21169999Yes I know everything can be bydo I mean't to stat out their 'units' as it would be. Should I start at the fighters or what do you think their 'base line' unit should be.
>>21171909Every grunt from the first level of R-Type. Also dont forget that Image Fight is part of the R-Type universe as well
>>21172011>spoilerNot just Image Fight, but also Gallop and X-Multiply.
>>21172190Basically everything Irem made is part of R-Type. Its crazy how it all just fits.
So with Z3.0 I gotta ask is there really a difference with meltcraft between being the ship and being the 'force' as we see both in 'droplet' form before they take on their forms and it's pretty much indistinguishable. At least with Metallic Dawn series we have one ship having the cockpit with the fleshie thing driving it and the force pod being entirely nanomachines.
>>21172190I have not heard or touched any of those, a big archive of stuff and info would be great.
>>21172488Gallop's an horizontal shooter arcade game where you're using an Police R-11B Peacemaker and dealing with an incident involving out of control AI driven vehicles and "Mad Cars" Turns out this is occurring during R-Type Delta and said cop is actually fighting off part of the Bydo invasion while the Delta team is fighting off the main Bydo force, it was confirmed to be in Continuity with the Illegal Operation book
>>21172502That's really neat, also Illegal operation book? is that a setting book for R-type?
>>21173766To an extent but it doesnt have the most up to date info due to it being from the 90s
>>21174528That Gains means business!
>>21175285She will make you such a deal!
>>21174920Rest in peace, old forest watchdog...
>>21176672Well maybe if she wasnt hanging out with those BYDO she wouldnt have had such a terrible fate! But dont worry, her older sister set her straight! STRIGHT TO HELL THAT IS!
>>21174920I hope that stage appears in Final 2.
>>21176950The Final level or the Delta one?
>>21177877Final stage 3.5
>>21172190Metalstorm on nes has the Giant warship from stage 3 making some background appearances. the Irem universe is too strong
>>21179003Never heard of Metalstorm, is it good?
>>21179003The Green Inferno? Yea it's a dick like that.Only reason why we won't get a tribute stage to that game is the gameplay being very focused around the gravity flip mechanic
>>21179475Take a horizontal action shooter and give your suit a gravity flip mechanic and the ability to climb up through platforms with some solid 'loop' scrolling and eventually getting a powerful that makes you actually attack while doing the flip by ramming is neat. Somehow does really solid scrolling backgrounds even if some of them become a little nauseating with their movement compared to your own.
>>21183092Poor little pilot!
>>21183092I wonder if they've fixed a bug I had where items got stuck in the hanger without actually being listed in hanger. It was annoying.But I didn't realize the suits were giving boosts. I've been spending all my R Points on supply dumps to get more ships
stage Z4.0 is filtering people kek