I love shin Turn A more than regular Turn A.
I love fucking your moms ass more than her pussy.
>>21071704That's because you're a pleb.>>21071705That's because you're gay.
>>21071704He looks naked without the mustache.
>>21071704I think it looks quite nice, though Ɐ is nicer. I have the MG of it so I thought it would be nice to have the HG of Shin Ɐ but motherfucking piss bandai
>>21071956Okawara's TurnA looks better. Mostly because the face vent makes him less bald. For some reason, they decided to take this as a base for Shin but no face vent. No offense, but i think TurnA look like garbage. Especially with how Tomino even regret this design few years later.
You're entitled to your wrong opinion
>>21071704Me too anon. Contrarians on /m/ like a robot with a gay moustache just to feel different, pay them no mind.
>dude mustache gundam lmaolast time I checked mustaches dont grow on your chin you fat idiot
>>21071704>>21072218I have yet to see a redesign of Turn A that doesn’t amount to “I made it more generic”nothing will ever top Syd Mead’s original
>>21071704That's fine. I don't dislike the Turn A, it's an nice piece of design, but not one of my favorites. I don't get why people want it to have a normal Gundam face, it's one of its most interesting features, but the redesigns with that element changed are alright in my book.What bothers me about the Turn A are the feet. They look like hooves gone wrong but nobody tries to change them.
>look up the artist>he has some great drawings of actually cool designsOh shit. OP was only partially a fag today.
>>21072312>>It's genericYeah no, Syd Mead's Turn A is so forgettable, sometimes i even forget it exists. Even without Gundam brand slapped on it, Turn A still not memmorable as a mecha and only hipster like it because "It's muh unique Gundurn!"
Never take posts with reddit spacing seriously
>>21072451Plebdit loves this garbage Gundam
>21072453You seem awfully familiar with what that site loves
>>21072450> Turn A placed 24th out of every mobile suit in the franchise on NHK's Top 100 mobile suits poll> Voted by the public to be the 100th MG Gunpla> Multiple art books released by artists inspired by Mead's Turn A design specificallyWhy is it so difficult to just accept that other people like a thing you don't? You don't have to like the design, but it is laughably easy to disprove the idea only hipsters like it.
I used to be a fag and hated turn A but something happened and it became one of my top favorite designs. I also like Getter Dragon too cause of its similar moustash face
>>21071704It makes the Turn-A bearable. Just needs something on the top of its head, not necessarily a traditional v-fin but some sort of antennas would be nice. Syd Mead contrarians fuck off. Turn-A has some of the weakest MS design in the franchise.
>>21071704>>21072218don't like it. could work as a sort of Maverick in Megaman X
>>21072450Either it’s generic and forgettable or it’s unique just to be hipster-baitpick a (fallacious) criticism; right now you seem trapped in a state of orwellian doublethink>>21072523all of the Getter G forms are awesome>>21072568the designs in Turn-A are some of the best? Can you explain how they are bad? other than, “I did not like them”
>>21072520>Why is it so difficult to just accept that other people like a thing you don't?NTA, but while I agree with your points and I do like Mead's Turn A, it's funny to also see autists getting butthurt over some anons here not liking the OG Turn A. We have both kinds of bad autists in this thread and I hope they all kindly fuck off.
>>21071704i respect your opinion OP and am happy you like it
Never seen a "redesign" that ever actually improved it.
>>21072914I'm with you on that. I think the Turn A looks great. The only element I don't really like is the Core Fighter/cockpit integration. I just can't suspend my disbelief over the window/transparency being exposed like it is. I wish it was internal, in the chest or head even. Instead, it's a belt buckle.
>>21072959Why? You do realize that just because the cockpit is transparent doesn't mean it's weak, right? It's unlikely to be made of glass, and transparency is no indication of toughness despite people associating it was glass since it's the one transparent thing they're most exposed to. Diamond's are transparent too, to a degree. Not exactly known for being weak. Brittle, perhaps; not soft. Not to mention, it's kind of unimportant in a unit with two layers of energy shielding (an i-field and the Moonlight Butterfly) and an actual physical shield for redundancy. Why does it need to have a buried cockpit when it has those? What does burying the cockpit in the chest achieve, beyond confirming to your preconceived notion that "this is how it should be"?
>>21071704Unironically love original Turn-A and Shin Turn A the same but differently.
>>21072975DESU, I just think it looks silly. I watched Turn A, but remember almost nothing about the specifics. I'm sure in-universe, the canopy is some Dark History Luna alloy or whatever.
>>21073045Again, why? Plenty of real things, including actual military platforms, use transparent, exposed cockpits.
>>21073055>>21072975Why are you this autisticHow does "I don't like it being exposed because it looks silly to me" not explain it to youNot that anon btw
>>21071704Reminder that that thing has an 0 Raiser
>>21073071Because "I don't like it isn't actually a reason", and I'm curious if he can explain why. He's more than welcome to dislike it and ignore me if he wants, but I just find it a silly complaint on the surface and want to see if there's more he can say on it.
TurnA fags shit on Okawara's design as if he is not "the man that gave Gundam its very appearance". One of the reason why i'm never ok with Turn A and what's related to it. Fucking ungrateful hipster.
>>21073171He was quite literally asked to design something different, and then when he turned in what is essentially the SUMO, told to design something less different.
>>21073171>TurnA fags shit on Okawara's designwho are you quoting
>>21073149>I don't like it isn't a reason for not liking thingsYou whatAlso, an exposed cockpit doesn't LOOK armored which is what makes it look silly in many people's eyes
Who was the British guy in the opening? I still don't understand...
>>21071704Just saying I would like to raw dog kihel heim. That’s it that’s the post, bye!
STOP.REMOVING.THE MUSTACHE.FOR FUCKSAKE.
>>21074788Fuck your hipster robot. Fuck the retarded mustache.
>>21073171>TurnA fags shit on Okawara Never happened. Also Okawara had the decency to keep the moustache
>>21071704things that add to the design>more colour separation on the chest>off white colours reminiscent of how the white doll is lit in the anime>smaller headthings that are decent changes, but are a bit too hammed up>more angular knee pads >more detail on the shoulder pads"generic" changes>head designbad additions>elongated front skirt, also done in a very subpar way>thrusters on the shouldersmy only real complaint is it tries to add a lot more harsh angles to turn a, but then skimps out on the weapons it's a cool suit OP!
>>21075023oh not sure if picrel is the "official" scheme or if it's>>21073146Still my comment on the chest still stands for that too, the more traditional colour scheme takes the old centre cross and makes it look much better by making it yellow instead of white
>>21075037I like the white cross more than the sold blue
>>21075044I feel like the very pure white contrasts a bit too much with the brilliant blue. It might've not been too much of an issue in the anime with the beige-offwhite colour grading/lighting white doll always hadIt's a very solid bit of colour separation, while the solid blue chest plate always felt like it blends together too much despite the detail
>>21071704The shoulders just look worse on Shin, and fuck up the continuous curve from one shoulder, through the chest to the other shoulder.
>>21072916That's an aura battler
>>21072312I actually like it when alternate designs double down on the weird and different. It’s supposed to be from this apex era of mobile suits beyond anything we’ve seen on screen it should look fittingly alien I believe.
>>21075811that's the correct century zeta equivalent!
>>21075815That's an evangelion
Perhaps we should compromise
>>21075023Love that colour scheme. If i ever get a hg turn A it shall be painted like that.
>>21071704I love regular Turn A more than Shin Turn A
>>21074697Her sister is better.
>>21071704You know it's like a really minor custom, right?The new face looks okay but I honestly think the new skirt and shoulders are worse.
>>21076764The old NG actually used an off white instead of regular white.
>>21075811I love mecha like this. Stuff that still has a humanoid look, but seems unintentional or arrives at that point differently that normal.
>>21072312>nothing will ever top Syd Mead’s originalPlenty already have while remaining true to the Gundam design. That aside, the problem with Turn A is that the base design actually does look good, but the fucking mustache makes it look comedic.
>>21092859I feel like you come to respect the "mustache" after a while.It doesn't look goofy to me. I can remember being off put by it initially when I first saw the Turn A, but that was years ago and I was a kid.But that positioning makes a lot more sense now.
>>21092854(cont)I think it's because it emphasizes the feeling that the design is a Sci-Fi vehicle design first and foremost.A lot of mecha take the humanoid form for granted and end up feeling very toyetic, and that's fine for most mecha series, but there are times where it feels like it shouldn't be(a lot of AU Gundam does this for example).It's not a grave sin though, but that Turn A Gundam Hige-Fix doujin really made me notice that. It's such a great book, it was cool to see so many artists analyze the Turn A from different perspectives. I think reading that alone will change the way you look at mecha entirely.
i bet you love cock more than pussy, too
>>21099423Other way round.
>>21092854whats your pic from?
>mustache >penis cockpitits like they tried to make people hate the design
>>21075811the hige fix artbook really has some excellent redesigns in itnormies don't get that the turn-A is meant to be a far future design and therefore has to be a little unrecognizeable
I love Sochie more than her sister
>>21103958Can't help it anon, she's just too cute
>>21103997I'm mentally weak to bob cuts and goggles. I stood no chance
>>21104002>gogglesImpeccable taste, I wonder what she smells like when she's in her pilot suit.
>unique head flare that sticks to the samurai theming >a COCKpit that is really the only good core fighterwhy would you assume people would hate these? There's no truth passed down from god saying all gundams have to have the same head style, gundam really only means prototype or "strong model line"some of the best mecha designs the 21st century have had massive schlongs and if this criticism is based in vulgarity/sex sells mixed with some retarded Freudian brained logic please keep in mind one of the most influential scifi authors was very into comparing good stories to intercourse >people complain about the mustacheI really think this opinion has been memed into existence in major discussions by youtubers talking about how underrated turn a is, when in reality there's just a small minority of people who actually have well thought out criticism Your point really boils down to pointing out the design has a mustache, which the anime itself does as well. This really isn't that solid of a point to attack a design as for some most gundams become a lot better designs when you strip off their crests for the more mass produced linesYou lack any insightful disposition to the rest of the mechanical design and rely solely on the head and crotch
>>21104832>There's no truth passed down from god saying all gundams have to have the same head styleit's a popular idea though at the very leastif you look at the protagonist gundams they have at least a few very specific rules; for example i can count the number of sharp-chinned gundams on my hand (there's 2) as opposed to the overwhelming number of block-chinned ones
>>21071704So... Why no Gundam with a beard? Too much for the Japanese?
>>21112795Now combine it with the Turn-A. Gentleman Gundam.
>>21112846The Gundam from AGE looks like it'd be a gentleman box with those arms/shoulders.
>>21112795Why are the elbows directly connected to the wrists?
>>21106101>for example i can count the number of sharp-chinned gundams on my hand (there's 2)I thought the same then I started counting them...Gundam Vidar, A-Z Gundam, Blitz Gundam, Arios Gundam, Kyrios Gundam,Harute Gundam, Gundam Ageis Knight, Hi-Nu Gundam Influx, Delta Gundam, Delta Gundam Kai, Fenice Rinascita, Lighting Gundam, Regen Duel Gundam, Scramble Gundam, Zeta, Zeta II, S-Gundam. This is before counting weird shit like the Gundam MK III or Gundam MK V where the chin and face are merged to have a pointy beak.
>>21113315ah sorry, i meant out of the protagonist gundamsthere's definitely way more of them if you count non-protag gundams and it's one of my favorite aspects of the S-Gundam (that it takes the ZZ and makes it look like an evolution of the Zeta through details like said sharp chin)
>>21073149mobile suits are both mechanically as narratively supposed to be a proxy for the pilot's actual body. it's not a huge issue in the show since there are very few shots actually focused on the cockpit but being able to see the pilot on the Turn A's robocock is a little less "space knight jousting" and more "wacky races". it doesn't bother me but I could see why someone wouldn't like it
>>21116233I'd argue it's not only not an issue but kind of helps in the case of Turn A because Turn A specifically has a running theme that the White Doll is just a machine, has no morals or goals of it's own etc. It's not meant to be a proxy for Loran mechanically or narratively, but to stand out as just a tool he uses. One other people use as well as him, to boot. Sochie uses it in one episode and it's stolen for several episodes near the end to be used by Merrybell and then Joseph. I would also say that being able to see the pilot is less "wacky races" and more...I don't know, normal? Fighter Jets? Cars? Motorcycles? Tanks are about the only small occupancy vehicle where the person operating it can't be seen through a transparent covering (if not open air in some cases), since it's by far the simplest solution to visibility.
>>21071704The Turn-A looks absolutely stunning in the actual show so it's design quickly grew on me. Turn-A being my personal favorite Gundam anime helps too.
unfortunately mustaches are too masculine of a concept for the average person on /m/. all we can hope is that one day they will see the truth.
>>21119831I love the way it moves
>>21071704If I want a "Shin" in Gundam, I want "Shin Gundam".
>>21072218>Especially with how Tomino even regret this design few years later.You don't have to lie to justify your objectively shit taste, you can just have your wrong opinions and that's fine
>>21144320Not that anon, but: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-08-29/gundam-tomino-thinks-young-voice-actors-all-sound-the-same/.78125>“I've come to realize that asking Syd Mead [to do mechanical designs for the series] was a mistake,” Tomino said. “I was already a fan of his preexisting works, so I gave him free rein to do as he wanted. Actually, somewhere along the line I felt like there was something a little off with the designs he'd submitted, but by that time things were too far along to change their trajectory.”Which reads less like he hates the designs or anything, and more like he thinks giving Mead free reign resulted in designs that didn't fit with what he was doing but that things were too far along to change by the time he realized that. Not that Mead had free reign as such anyway, since his first submission for the Turn A's titular design was basically the SUMO and it was repurposed into a secondary suit after Sunrise rejected it and told Mead to design a unit that felt more like a Gundam.
I wish they got Syd Mead to design more Gundam before he passed away. Since Turn A was a redesigned rx78 imagine if he redesigned the Nu, Zeta, Wing etc
>>21145370Mistakes into miracles
>>21147464What a boring idea. The other Gundams, especially the Nu, are basically just variations of the RX-78 designs themselves. Why not have him re-design the Zaku II or other units besides Gundams? How about things other than mobile suits, like the Big Zam, Argama etc? Or get him to work on non-Gundam Tomino shows, like redesigning Byston Wells units, Ideon etc? I'd suggest non-Gundam, non-Tomino shows but that's straying a little outside the bounds of his actual work on Gundam and what he could theoretically have done for Sunrise; it'd still be cool to see him do some Macross, Mazinger, Getters etc. Or just his own giant robot stuff altogether.
>>21147464>>21147625he's already done concept are for Zaku IIs and the RX-78 for a movie Universal wanted to makeHe has also drawn art of the MK-II for Bandai, which they later went on to use for the zeta album I'd like to think of the Sumo as more of his zaku like grunt suit due to it's thick bulbous proportions and thing Zeta would be something really interesting as it's an AE suit and sets the standard for a lot of AE designs going forward (technically the Shiki does this, you y'know)It'd be just like him making a design for a different car brand
>>21148786and think zeta*also I know that the sumo is basically a recycled older concept for Turn a
>>21148793so seriously what the fuck is up with the bubble on the unicycleyou fall over you're even more fucked with that shit, it's not air-tight, there's no bugs and shit in your face in a colony
>>21148858>no bugs in a colonyyou think all the flora is fake too? A lot of that shit would die out so quickly without bugsalso imagine actually quarantining bugs from huge colonist ships coming from Earth
>>21148858>there's no bugs and shit in your face in a colonyThere's large scale inter-colony and colony-Earth transport and plenty of plants. They're going to both inevitably have bugs and definitely actively want bugs.
>>21148908>>21148914anime is usually pretty specific HERE ARE BUG NOISES EEE EEE EEE EEEwhen does that happen in colonies in the Universal Century
>>21147444bottom middle really captures the character of Turn A the best out of all the redesigns in this thread.
>>21148908>no bugs in a colony[F91 reference omitted for clarity]
>>21147625>What a boring idea. The other Gundams, especially the Nu, are basically just variations of the RX-78 designs themselves. Why not have him re-design the Zaku II or other units besides Gundams?You're typing like this like I'm about to raise him from the dead and squander my one chance at getting him to design mecha.
>>21148786There's a difference between drawing something and re-designing it. Mead's Zaku II in the concept art posted at >>21148793 is just a normal Zaku II. The proportions might be a little different due to art-style or whatever, but it's hardly a re-design of it. His Mk II is basically just the normal Mk II as well.>>21148978When does it happen on Earth in UC?>>21149090No I'm typing it like you're suggesting a hypothetical idea and that even the hypothetical idea is boring.
>>21071709>p-plebRedditspeak and forcing yourself to pretend Turn A has a good design don't make you interesting or special.
The mustache has always been retarded and always will be retarded. People just pretend to like it to look "wacky" and unique.
>>21149222>>21149225you will never belong here, or anywhere for that matter if a differing opinion makes you immediately think of "THEY'RE PRETENDING TO FIT IN!"
>>21149199I think in 08th MS maybe?
>>21071704How about keep the original design and mustache as much as possible but the face plate split during moonlight butterfly?
>>21071704>>21072218>ITT: pleb as fuck taste
>>21149225it accentuates the rest of the design and is aesthetically pleasing Mead's autism is very enchanting
>>21149222No it just makes me correct. It's correct century for a reason.
>>21071704What a shit taste to hate the mustache.
>>21147464You made me realise that a Mead Ideon would be pretty dope.
>>21072959>Tomino requested that the design be “sleek” and “graceful”, like a kick-boxer instead of a sumo wrestler, and that the face needed to be more distinct and inside its helmet, like a “persona”. He also requested the cockpit to be in the “womb position”, not unlike the Brains from Brain Powerd, and while Mead found this “uterus”-focus to be odd he didn’t question the mindset.https://tsukinomayu.com/2022/07/17/the-history-and-production-of-turn-a-gundam-part-iii-prelude
>>21157857The Turn A could have been a mother to me.
>>21149225>WackyIt's slick as hell though. Every single mechanical detail on the Turn A flows into the next. And yes I do like how unique it is but I also like how it's a reimagined V fin and chin red dot thing.But I unironically love the Zakrello, Kapool, Agguguy etc, G Gundam and SD Gundam because it's wacky and unique. What's wrong with wacky?
>>21153688I can't imagine what a Mead anything would even look like. His suits all looked so different from eachother. Japan has criminally shit taste for never bringing him back to do anything.I'd like to see his take on magical mecha or a Super Sentai mecha too. Or anything with combining parts. Also the Ball. Or brave or SRW. Anything really.
>>21158050>Japan has criminally shit taste for never bringing him back to do anything.are you joking? japs absolutely love mead half of his work is related to japan including turn a and yamato 2050him not coming back has less to do with japs not wanting him but more with him doing less and less work as time went on especially after 2000s
>>21160080Was this the first take that got redesigned to be the SUMO?
>>21072218I think it has no face vents to push the idea of a streamlined futuristic design. It doesn't have any other vents either.
>>21165125I'm pretty sure there's at least one scene in the show of steam being blown out around the red beard/gem on the Turn A's head.
You think you're the worst Turn A redesign? Watch this