Episode 37, "Herd of the Dead", airs this coming Sunday.Here's the preview for ZOMBIES: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ADoKjrzg4
Was it worth the wait?
>>21044337I mean it could have been a bit better but considering it spent 4 years in development hell it should have been unplayably awful, so I say yes
>>21044337Can't be assed with change the lav filters settings to play it.
>>21044337Haha no.It's shit and flopped.
>>21044337If it had come out in 2019 like it was supposed to and the next Story game had either already been announced or released by now it would have been fine. There is no good excuse for why this game got delayed for so long with how simple it is. I'd be down for a Survive 2 though since I am enjoying it and properly building off it you could make something really great. Digimon games desperatly need better writers though.
>>21044337Fuck visual novels and fuck SMT.
>>21044337I'm enjoying it a lot. The final stretch for the Moral route dragged on a bit but I had fun overall, and I'm enjoying True a lot too. I'm looking forward to seeing the other routes as well.
Next set of episode synopses have appeared: https://withthewill.net/threads/ghost-game-guide-listings-for-episodes-38-through-41-new-dim-digimon-islands-spirals.27934/Episode 38- Onmyouji (August 14)Hiro and Kotaro head to Youoh Academy Kamakura school to participate in their traditional "Wakagimi Dance." However, the girl playing the role of Wakagimi suddenly takes ill and Hiro takes her place. At the same time, Doumon, who can manipulate onmyo magic, plots to resurrect the spirit of the Hojo clan's young lord and revive the Japanese bakufu. Doumon kidnaps Hiro, who is dressed as the wakagimi, to use him as a vessel for the young lord's spirit!Episode 39- Infected Remote Island (August 21)Hiro and Gammamon have a tiny visitor: A Digimon named Gyukimon, who has the upper body of an ox, the lower body of a spider, and is 3 centimeters long. Hiro invites Gyukimon into his room, but Angoramon's expression changes when he learns of it and yells for them to get away immediately. Gyukimon is actually an extremely violent Digimon and a hated figure in the Digital World. When Gyukimon challenges you to a fight and you lose, you also get changed into a Gyukimon. Ruli Tsukiyono and Kiyoshiro Higashimitarai are frightened and wary, but the little Gyukimon appeals to Hiro for help.Episode 40- Spiral Coast (August 28)Gammamon accidentally breaks Hiro's tablet, but is too angry to apologize. That's when Espimon appears with his arm twisted into a strange shape. He tells them that it happened as he was napping close to a beach. At Espimon's request, Hiro and his friends head to the beach to find out the cause. However, Gammamon is still sulking. Gammamon happens to meet a girl in elementary school who is looking for "strange twists" occurring all over town and hits it off with her immediately, looking for the cause of the spirals together, when...?Episode 41- Clown(September 4)
>>21044337No. Waste of time and resources.
>>21044337Gameplay is rough and very unbalanced for the SRPG part of it, but I quite liked the story and the characters. It was a good first go at the concept. I think if they did a Survive 2, they could make something really impressive.
>>21044760So Digimon Survive should have been canceled, that right?
>>21044892Yeah they actually hit it out of the park on the story. Perhaps if a Sequel happens they can refine the SRPG side of the game more
>>21044897NTA but yeah
>>21044946Why? Because it's not a mindless monster collector?
>>21044954It's not exactly a good monster raiser either, which is the more important thing
>>21044970>>21044984Go play Pokemon then, I prefer Digimon doing different things that helps set it on its own
>>21045026Doing different things by using nearly the exact same cast of Digimon we've been getting for 20 years. Survive isn't unique. It's a generic VN with Digimon thrown in. It's probably a rejected anime pitch. Digimon doesn't even have the luxury to be experimental. We rarely get games and when we do they need to be things people actually want.
>>21039725I bought a Digimon X on a whim as my first V-pet and had a blast with it. The timing minigame with the XAI was fun, and the cut-ins you get for special attacks are really cool.
>>21045075>Digimon doesn't even have the luxury to be experimentalYou say that like a VN/SRPG spin-off is something most franchises would willingly make. Or a horror themed monster of the week mystery series. Or a fit bit. Digimon's issue has been how it keeps experimenting with retarded shit like Frontier, Xros Wars and Appmon, all those experiments failing, and then the franchise falling back into obscurity for the next 5 years as they figure out another gimmick to try and revive the franchise
>>21045213Most franchises wouldn't make a VN because they're insanely niche. They don't want to throw away money. Ghost Game is still Digimon. The watches are just Digivices. No one is using them otherwise and found workarounds to the fitness mechanic. All Digivices sell. They're about the only consistent thing in this franchise. This game is a retarded experiment no one asked for. Hell, most publications aren't even reviewing it.
>>21045075>Doing different things by using nearly the exact same cast of Digimon we've been getting for 20 years.When was the last time we had the original Falcomon in something? Or someone's partner being Ceresmon or Plutomon? Or, hell, an actual, notable, not-just-one-event-in-a-mobile-game showing by the Holy Beasts?Like, yeah, no shit, it features the Digimon that get casuals to actually buy the game, fucking obviously, every game ever will include those. But like a solid third of the choices are a lot more out there.
>>21044337I enjoyed it, though I was very disapppointed that the exploration aspect wasn't as good as I wanted it to be. They made it seem important in the first chapter with finding the lamp to preemptively damage Dokugumon, but as far as I could tell, something like that never came up again. Also the fact that Renamon's death in Moral route was so cheap, since she came back like, 5 minutes later.That being said, I still enjoyed my time with the game, and I haven't even started the True path yet.
>>21045237If I want a mindless monster collector, I'd play Pokemon. Digimon may be hit or miss, but instead of just relying on the monster collection will kill it.And before you bitch again about the roster, Survive at least isn't afraid of actually raising the stakes in their story, or trying to tell something personal.
>>21045314I'm gonna grab the game on my Switch so I can give it a good chance. The only challenge I'm holding myself to, is no WarGreymon line until true end run
>>21045317>If I want a mindless monster collector, I'd play PokemonOr you'd play the Digimon games that came before this. The most popular of which are the Cyber Sleuth games which let you choose between hundreds of Digimon. What the fuck does the roster have to do with the stakes of the story? Didn't Cyber Sleuth have stakes? Tons of fucked up shit happens in those games. Looks like you just wanted something other than Digimon and got it.
>>21045327Nah, I mean I'd rather support them actually doing things with Digimon, that gives them characters too.On the matter of Cyber Sleuth and Hacker's Memory, beat one, working back through with the other. But those games felt like monster collector games first and foremost. I want something different, which is why I'm giving Survive a chance
They should just go all in and make a Digmon dating sim
>>21045327Hell, last thread I admitted to wondering if we were supposed to get some kind of proto-Gammamon rather than Agumon for the millionth time
A World game, but with Action RPG combat, emphasis on the action
>>21045345Just making any game is doing something with Digimon. Nobody gives a fuck about Survive. Most of the complaints are about it being a VN with barely any gameplay. How do the Sleuth games feel more like monster collectors? Just because they have large rosters? The games actually treat Digimon like living creatures who you can even take jobs from and who have their own motives. The amount of Digimon you collect has no bearing on the story and the story is the focus.
>>21044753Hiro crossdressing episode maybe?
>>21045368The monsters feel like they come first, and the story second. That point makes or breaks a game of this nature for me. And you basically said that Survive's automatically shit because it's not more of the same.Hell, it's why I prefer Hackers Memory to Cyber Sleuth, because the lead character actually has a story, and the Digimon shown feel like they actually do more for the story in a good way rather than turn it into Royal Knights clash number 581324096Plus if you got WarGreymon in Cyber Sleuth, you could break the game in two with his Great Tornado.
>>21045327>Cyber SleuthThe original Cyber Sleuth had 249 Digimon including its DLC, which is just as fucking nothing as the Survive when you consider the franchise has something like 1500 Digimon, and Hacker's Memory added less than a hundred even with all the DLC. You want a game that includes even a notable fraction of all Digimon you'd have to go all the way back to Sunburst and Moonlight, which still didn't include any X digimon among a bunch of other things - because Lost Evolution responded by cutting the roster in half or so and the games never got even close to that.Cyber Sleuth of course is also at least 50% grinding, like all Story games (and, hell, most Digimon games that aren't, like, the two PSX Card Battles, some of the WS games, and Survive) are, so.
>>21045498So this week, Ghost Game is doing the Zombie Apocalypse thing with Rare raremon
>>21045425>Sunburst and Moonlight, which still didn't include any X digimon among a bunch of other thingsYou mean the converted X Digimon, right? Because I recall Dorumon's line as well as a large amount of other "native" X Digimon.
>>21044337Survive was shit because they made a VN then told us it was a VN and then I played 40 hours of a VN which I hate.>>21044324Ghost Game is shit because they made an episodic anime then told us it would be an episodic anime and then I spent the past 40 weeks watching an episodic anime which I hate.
>>21045075>using nearly the exact same cast of DigimonNo they didn't.
>>21045948thank you for your insightful contribution
>>21045308Agumon's data line and Tuskmon were out there too so its not like it even he was that bad. We got our first main characters partner with a shit flinging Digimon too.
>>21045950Thank you but I'm nowhere near as good a contributor as all those people review bombing Survive with '0/10 was a visual novel' or weekly threads where people say 'the episode was filler where is the plot'
>>21045960I don't understand those complaints either, especially the GG ones.If someone is that addicted with PLOT then they should just drop the show and come back when it's completed. People who persist are either masochists or (more likely) absolute retards.
>>21045308>Agumon> mascot in everything for a protag but has 3 paths with weird shit like Dinorexmon>Labramon>minor recent anime cameos and that old Tamers movie as a mainish role that was still pretty minor>Falcomon>The fucking Accel from 2005>KunemonSavers maybe?>LopmonA very small cameo in Kizuna and minor partner in CS and rerise>ShakomonHM? Minor anime cameos>DracmonHM, GG MoTW>FloramonMinor anime cameosI'm not doing evolutions because I'd have to spoil myself but it's really not that bad. And even if it was why the fuck are you mad Digimon are in Digimon?
>>21045075Except the only really generic partner line was the Adventure Greymon one?
>>21045982People want super obscure shit not realizing just how hard getting super obscure shit past corporate is. I'm amazed we even got the partner evos we did.
>>21046035That's what kills me though Digimon and Habu have been really good at doing that since Hacker's Memory came out and Habu said he intended to give lesser known Digimon the spotlight. Colon, the DRB, DIMs, Pendulum Zs, Ver Xs and Survive have been really good for it. Ghost Game and ReRise to a lesser extent too.But its never good enough for some people probably because they're just too focused on Agumon. We had fucking Nenecunnymon, Golemon PS1 wireframe Burpmon and Falcomon suck me dick.
A good Digimon Story game would be something like Dusk/Dawn but more ambitious but with no high encounter rates and less gay and grindy evolution requirements.
DESU, I'd challenge ppl in this thread to do something, but I doubt anyone here would have the guts to.That being take an RPG Maker, and build a 'demake' of Digimon Survive in it.
On a different note...Does vanilla Omegamon/Omnimon feel like a standard Mega rather than an Ultra compared to the other variants?
>>21045982Reread what Mattman said, they're arguing against someone who said that Survive didn't have obscure Digimon.
>>21046097Which reminds me, is it worth trying out the DS Digimon Story games? Been looking for something new on my commute after finishing SRW L.
>>21046195It's pretty strong from what I can tell, but it doesn't have as good of an AOE as WarGreymon.
>>21045809Specifically the "[Digimon name] X" ones, yeah, it had a few natural carriers. Though it was missing a bunch of those too.>>21045956Agumon -> Tyrannomon is absolutely the first Agumon Data Adult they'd give an MC, Tyrannomon has a big fanbase, but the rest of the line is more interesting, yeah. And the Virus line until Ultimate are more shocking, although it's neither a spoiler nor at all unexpected to say "they gave Mugendramon another big role again" because of course they did, the casuals and the hardcore crowd in Japan love the fuck out of Mugendramon, it only makes sense.I'd never berate a Digimon game for including all the obvious picks because, like, that's how they sell a large number of copies. Survive only having three recolors, ditching the Tamers (bar Renamon) and Savers and 02 lines (including V-mon and V-dramon! First time they haven't been playable in ages in spite of them being some of the biggest names), and trying to include some more interesting partner lines and having a bunch of "oh shit this is in?" choices in spite of its small roster size is, at least, forgivable.>>21045982No, anon, I'm trying to say most of the Digimon Partners in Survive are the more obscure ones or have more obscure lines, as a response to an anon saying Survive only has the common and obvious choices.>>21046030Garurumon and Renamon too, but you don't get those for most of the game, and Garurumon specifically is there to facilitate OMEGA, because let's face it, there was precisely zero chance Omegamon wasn't in.
For me, not obscure enough means that it didn't use enough of the Digimon I actually like while using far too many of the ones I don't
>>21046335Well, technically there was Guilmon to Dukemon too. But I completely agree, I had so much fun trying to predict partner Digimon evolutions right before they show it to me.
>>21046368Guilmon isn't a partner, it's a Free Digimon, and while it is a famous and well liked Digimon it's also literally only in to move preorder copies like the black Agumon/Gabumon lines were in CS.
Did they really fuck up the pronouns for some Digimon? Come on, man. There were even instances where they switched up he and she for the same Digimon.
>>21046675The lines were translated in isolation so they had no context. This happened with Cyber Sleuth too.
>>21046675They should've done some more QC, yeah
>>21045498Lemme guess, Ruli gonna turn zombie in this episode?
>>21046675Yeah, I noticed that with Labramon in Chapter 6. There's a lot of the usual sorta Namco Bandai budget translation foibles here. Nothing that's say, Megaman Battle Network 4 levels of bad or anything, but a few odd lines here and there. And I think different chapters were done by different people, since people have some verbal tics that sorta come and go. I could have used some more polish, but I can say that about the game in general.
>>21046696Dude what the hell
>>21044406Shuujiposting is the best thing to come out from this game
>>21045322Virus is frustrating early game, Data is frustrating late game, stat boost items make everything but true route easy. Do as you will with that information.
>>21046983somebody save gammamon, he's been abducted by furries.
>>21046283Dawn and Dusk are great outside the issues I listed.Digimon Story: Lost Evolution is like 90% almost complete with its translation but they haven't updated in a while so who know when its done.
>>21047164Gammamon is the one abducting them.
Episode 37 stream link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z59OlWIUmOI
>>21047259Alternate link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxL-GNkH25Y
Episode 38 preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWPpRxKYv5E
>>21047466https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mma_YVT-7gThis Perfects PV was previewed at Digifes.
https://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/digimon_ghost_game/news/2022080702.phpEspimon's seiyuu has been revealed as Yumiko Kobayashi. You'll remember her as Koshiro in Colon.
>>21047563And various emotions. If I remember rightly, the full body shot on the right was used for the last Dreamers chapter as well.
What’s the last super ultimate form for Agumon?
>>21047515Also voiced Ryoto in SRW OG, the protagonist of Crayon Shin-Chan and Ion in Tales of the Abyss
>>21047172>they haven't updated in a whileThey last updated a month ago.
How was the episode?
>>21048647Good, I'm glad Raremon finally got an episode where it wasn't just some random boss and really went into how horrifying that 'evolution' is
>>21048647It teach me that illegal dumping could get you killed.
>>210463351) Yeah, they actually surprised with the Choices on Agumon's Data and Virus lines2) On this one they gotta balance obscure Digimon with popular ones, so for what we got, I like what Survive pulled for the roster.3) to be fair, I'm surprised That they didn't sneak in BlackWarGreymon just to fuck with everyone at first
>Kunemon's voice actor voiced SRW X's protagonistHuh. Neat.
>>21048647I'm happy they killed RareRaremon instead of talking it out like they usually do. RIP to all the fallen doggos
>>21049828This bit sums up their decision. RareRare was gone, there was no way of reasoning with it.
>>21049828You can't talk it out with a crazed abomination made of rotting flesh held together by metal.
>>21049488Only three recolors, shockingly.
>>21049488Agumon getting fucking Huanglongmon as a evo option is wild.
>>21050345Yeah but Black WarGreymon is a popular Digimon among the old school Digimon, so I'm surprised that he didn't make it in, though I realize he could have easily ended up the Dark Digivolution for Agumon and Takuma's death
>>21048647They pulled a reverse Ghost Game and had the first 2/3rds be awkwardly paced but the final third be great.
Found an unused bad ending in Digimon Survive>At the end of Chapter 7, Takuma and Agumon fight against Piedmon>Piedmon is so strong both may die at this rate>Takuma becomes an asshole like Shuji was and yell at Agumon, calling him useless>Agumon evolves to SkullGreymon and defeats Piedmon at ease>SkullGreymon goes berserk, killing everyone around him>SkullGreymon kills Takuma in the end
>>21053560What was supposed to be the trigger of that ending?
>>21053560Damn. Do you have the one with SkullGreymon's dialogue?
>>21050345ACKSHULLY there was 4 because the orange MetalGreymon but no one cares or considers it one
>>21053623That would only count if both the blue and orange MetalGreymons appear in the game, but only one did so ergo, not a recolour in this case
>>21053615No idea, but there's an unused dialog that implies Takuma had been harshly treated by Kaito and Haru, calling him naïve and usless, respectively, before he encountered Piedmon. Perhaps Takuma went crazy the same way Shuji did.>>21053622There are unused dialogs of SkullGreymon in both bad ending and chapter 12. I guess you were supposed to unlock SkullGreymon after seeing this bad ending.
>>21053668It doesn't make sense plot-wise to have SkullGreymon talk in one route when you obtained him in a different route. So there's probably some scrapped plans for a route where you still get SkullGreymon, but it doesn't lead to a bad ending
>>21053560>>21053668Was this in the decompile that got posted over on /vg/?
>>21053685In this bad ending, there are unused dialogs of the entire digimon in Agumon's evolution line, even including Huanglongmon and SkullGreymon himself.I guess devs didn't care about the plot inconsistency or made the dialogs for those who went nth playthrough.
Found an English versionhttps://pastebin.com/7GSHyjKb
>>21053759>"On your feet one last time, Megadramon! We’ll show them who’s pathetic!">"Takuma, have you lost your mind? Do you even know what you’re asking?"I shouldn't have laughed at this, but I did.
>>21053560So THAT'S why some of the early things I saw implied a Skullgreymon evolution for Takuma.>>21053623No, Anon, if that mattered there'd be five because Lopmon is a recolor of Terriermon. But it's irrelevant because Terriermon isn't in, and neither is the original Metalgreymon.
>>21053635Was there ever something else that had a recolour but not the original colour? I think Ghost Game had a few like Muchomon but no Penmon
>>21054177Plenty of things have had only Red Atlurkabuterimon or Orange Metalgreymon before Survive.
Wow, Shuuji is a cunt
After having my birthday, Doing storytime on chapter 4. Previous chapter >>21034334
Fourth chapter finished.
>>21054972Holy shit there's another Atlurkabuterimon?!
>>21054030Someone actually found sound files on /vg/ now too
>>21055887There's a blue one, for some reason Digimon World 2 only had that one.
>>21055887If I remember right, one was supposed to be the Monzaemon/Vademon of its digivice, think you're supposed to imagine a Tentomon piloting it from the back orb.
https://digimon.net/fun/vote/New voting poll
Can we Shuuji post?>get dropped into another world with classmates>everyone defers to lower classman as de facto leader and goes to him for everything >call myself the leader>be a general cunt to everyone>be a cunt to a cute bunny that just wants to help me>not surprisingly, cute bunny becomes big evil bunny eats me
>>21056833As horrible as he was the gang didn’t really help all things considered; they refused to intervene despite knowing how poorly he regarded and treated Lopmon until his sanity completely nosedived and even then they just made snide comments and acted passive-aggressively instead of doing anything for either of them, the fact they acknowledge this after the fact is the only thing that makes their behaviour somewhat forgivable (that and since they’re all effectively children it’s a pretty realistic depiction of group dynamics/behaviour for their age bracket)
>>21055887Red Atlurkabuterimon is the Orange version of Metalgreymon all over again, it's the "most species are this weaker (blue) version but the really cool ones get to be this stronger (red/orange) version that's less shit".Mind you it probably actually exists for the sake of a toy, much like how a bunch of Wargreymon's design was for the sake of a toy, but still.>>21055890Damn, you have a link?>>21055920>There's a blue one, for some reason Digimon World 2 only had that one.Because back then, the red one was still new.>>21056348No. You're thinking of Digital Monster Ver 6, but it was actually the main evolution, the Metalgreymon equivalent. The Monzaemon equivalent was Tonosamagekomon because the joke Adult was Gekomon (over Karatukinumemon shockingly enough which was just a normal Adult in that one)
Digimon is not /m/
>getting close to finishing my first playthrough in survive>only managed to get minoru's affinity high enough to fully evolve his digimonfuck
>>21056833He gets better in NG+. So does Ryo.
>>21057330Me but with Miu. At least MarineAngemon a cute
>>21057342the worst part was i was really close with aoi and miu. 1 more conversation with each and i would have gotten them.
>>21057368It's okay, it's way easier to increase affinity on NG+. Speaking of which...I just finished the truthful route, and man I can't be the only one who thought it's weird that Omegamon is only a thing in Moral route and not in this route. I was expecting it or Fanglongmon at the final battle, but neither happened.And for anyone who's wondering, there's no special dialogue if you bring any of the 4 Soverign Beasts with you into the final battle, so feel free to use whatever your A team is. Also, they better make a second game, if only because of that Chibimon at the end.
>>21057358I do wish Tyrannomon had a pure dino line besides "literally any random dino/dragon rookie">Tyrannomon/DarkTyrannomon>Triceramon/MameTyramon>Dinorexmon/Spinomon.
>>21058176I'm more partial to Tyrannomon>MetalTyrannomon>RustTyrannomon myself
>>21058189That's the cyborg line, bruh.
>>21058176There's MasterTyrannomon from Digimon World 2 for the Ultimate slot, but he's a slight recolor of DarkTyrannomon and bigger. Though I do agree there should be something for his mega other than Dinorexmon or Spinomon for a pure dino line.
I just want a monster-raising phone app with online PvP. Why are they such shit handling this franchise?
>>21058434You're implying bamco only mistreats digimon, that is simply not true, they mistreat every IP they own.
>>21058434Isn't that kind of how the VB works? Not that you're wrong, since they could probably make that on the cheap with 8 or 16 bit graphics and have it sell like hotcakes
>>21058437Ngl I’d drink whatever horrific concoction she called “coffee” if it meant I got to hang around with her and the clientele at the office all day, and I fucking hate coffee
>>21058176Triceramon has Ultimatebrachimon.Really, the main issue is just that they blew their load in Digital Monster Ver 1 by putting the apex predator of the later parts of the Mesozoic as an Adult in it. That fucks with all the other dinosaurs, because besides Triceramon (which, it must be stated, originally evolved from a different Adult level ceratopsian), basically all the other high level dinosaur Digimon have to be either apex predators in their own right or have some other nonsense going on like spinosaurs, or have additional upgrades like Metaltyrannomon.It's a problem for a couple of other things too, but the difference with those is that no one's particularly asking for, say, an Ultimate level creature from the Cambrian that'd make Anomalocarimon look weird by extension.
>>21055412Happy birthday, anon. Hope it was a really good one.>>21055469>>21055474>>21055476Man, I forgot how great this Agumon is.>>21055517Hey, that master plan sounds awfully familiar...>>21055563Holy shit.>>21055567>>21055593Bringing new meaning to the term "synergy".
>>21058959>>21055455My family cooked a pretty good cake for my birthday. Don't have any pictures of it though.
>>21058176But those are all dinosaurs?
>>21058743I'm not a dinosaur guy and know nothing about them but I like how we are getting nonTrex dinosaurs like Parasaurmon and Gammamon lately. Even if they don't stay dinosaurs but to be honest I think everyone overrates ultimates because the random adults are some of the best Digimon. Drimogemon, Mojyamon, Yukidarumon etc. And MetalGreymon looks better than WarGreymon. I love Survive's data line too because it represents all the early vpets but that may have been an accident? Ver1>Ver1>Pendulum Nature Spirits>Digimon X
Why is Lopmon so shitty?
>>21059595>Even if they don't stay dinosaurs but to be honest I think everyone overrates ultimates because the random adults are some of the best Digimon. Drimogemon, Mojyamon, Yukidarumon etc. And MetalGreymon looks better than WarGreymon.Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave?>>21059606Why are you so shitty, Shuuji?
>>21059595>ParasaurmonWhich is, it must be stated, an adult.>GammamonOnly has one dinosaur evolution, then turns into a dragon. Very nice child level for Monochromon though, I'll definitely grant it that, not that Monochromon particularly needed a specific Child Level but you know.>Even if they don't stay dinosaurs but to be honest I think everyone overrates ultimates because the random adults are some of the best Digimon. Drimogemon, Mojyamon, Yukidarumon etc. And MetalGreymon looks better than WarGreymon. I think a bunch of Ultimates are really cool, but it's also the largest fucking group of Digimon so that's obvious.And, yes, the shittiness of Wargreymon is well known. It's literally just "the thing that was designed to evolve from Agumon and thus doesn't follow any of its actual evolutions", even Plesiomon (the one people always say is only sensible as a Gomamon evolution) is a better follow up for its line.And this is why Zekegreymon is the best Greymon Ultimate, it's the one that follows the Perfects the best. Though, of course, Shine is a direct follow up for Rise specifically, have to mention that.
>>21044324Is pokemon /mecha/?
>>21059606Shuuji, don't bite off more than you can chew
>>21059949I like the idea of ZekeGreymon as a stabilised form of Millenniummon.XW MetalGreymon is a fusion of a biological Digimon and a robotic one, retaining both minds but with the bio part as the main body. So if its components tried to evolve separately then they could turn into Chimeramon + Mugendramon and result in the fusion going berserk. ZekeGreymon is what happens when they instead remain in perfect sync and evolve together into a perfect synthesis of metal and flesh.
Just make a BanchoTyrannomon. I'm honestly shocked that there isn't one already.