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Total Eclipse on Steam edition.

TE Steam page now up, add to wishlist:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/787510/MuvLuv_Alternative_Total_Eclipse_Remastered/

>Anime Trailers
[YouTube] #マブラヴ TVアニメ マブラヴ オルタネイティヴ 第三弾PV (embed)
[YouTube] #マブラヴ TVアニメ マブラヴ オルタネイティヴ 第二弾PV (embed)
[YouTube] 『マブラヴ オルタネイティヴ』アニメ特報映像「Just Beginning」|マブラヴ公式チャンネル (embed)
[YouTube] TVアニメ マブラヴ オルタネイティヴ 放送決定記念 特報PV (embed)
>New Anime Website
https://muv-luv-alternative-anime.com/
>Muv-Luv Integrate PV
[YouTube] 『Muv-Luv INTEGRATE』PV (embed)
>Muv-Luv Resonative PV
[YouTube] 『Muv-Luv RESONATIVE』PV (embed)
>Project Mikhail Trailers
[YouTube] 『Project MIKHAIL』プロモーション動画 第1弾|マブラヴ公式チャンネル (embed)
[YouTube] Project MIKHAIL December 2020 Gameplay Footage (embed)
>Project Mikhail Website
https://www.project-mikhail.com/en/
>Project Immortal Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFmg_n_pONU (embed)
>Old Asset Archive Files (Needs new home)
https://mega.nz/folder/fIhTUKSA#nTRrKtXDoekouDG03HJQIw
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1rLi8H6aA-7NpeZxHVACGOGS59P2upNsw

>TDA 00-03 now on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/18646/MuvLuv_Unlimited__The_Day_After_ULTIMATE_COLLECTION/

>Muv-Luv Alternative Manga vol 1-4, 5-8 & 8-12 now on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1501130/MuvLuv_Alternative_Manga_Super_Bundle_1/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1616080/MuvLuv_Alternative_Manga_Super_Bundle_2/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1811020/MuvLuv_Alternative_Manga_Super_Bundle_3/
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Teito Moyu when?
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>>20946112
It's a console-original to PC port, take a wild guess.
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>>20946152
Damn op now that’s an eye catching thumbnail
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>>20946152
Remember to watch Muv-Nozo!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96V4xqruf5M
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>>20946154
https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/1409446436366798853

They need to bundle these together or something.
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>>20946152
You think they had to install an extra wide seat on her Take?
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Can't wait to see how overrated Yui is
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Aside from the euro VN in photomelodies, are there any other stories that talk in any detail about what happened when the BETA invaded britbongistan? Even Eurofront feels a little scant on the details.
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>>20946156
Then why are people worried it will be censored?
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>>20946152
Fucking finally.
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>>20946302
because there's like 1 doomposter nigger attempting to poison the well with 0 shit to back it up, probably the same person who's still mad that Muv-Luv on Steam isn't in 4:3
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>>20946313
Figured more people would be pissed about the nipples
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>>20946302
all ages games get censored all the time, just look at xenoblade
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I should be done reading TDA by the time TE hits, I can't wait.
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>>20946316
most people have moved on because the nipples were cut in every single ever since Chronicles vol.3 and now it's obvious that it was a stylistic decision more than anything
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>>20946316
if I want nipples I will look up porn, I'm honestly glad they removed them because now I can show this shit to friends and they don't automatically assume it's just a porn game
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>>20946487
It is a porn game
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https://twitter.com/Ginrei_Ginrei/status/1539873551477395456
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>>20946194
will probably be a third photon pack im guessing
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>>20946152

>>20944616

Hehe... your welcome. Now that I think about I wonder if muv hentai or muv cute or muv girls exist on a separate 4chan thread
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I only lurk mlg on /m/, and sorry for the offtopic but is there a picture on how to get started on gundam?
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TDA should have been about the adventures of Kurogane and the Royal Guard. Too bad its about some fake American kids vendetta against the frogs.
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>>20947112
0078, either the Anime or compilation movies, then Zeta and finally Char's Counterattack.
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>>20946152
The anatomy looks fucked but then again I've never seen a female ass IRL
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>>20946313
>doomposter nigger
Who is right

>>20946325
>now it's obvious that
Retard
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>>20947421
Pretty sure that pic was one of the many traced ones. So that ass is a real ass from some porn Miyata Sou was wacking off to in between tracing them.
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>>20947422
anon just saying that you're right isn't gonna convince anyone
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>>20947472
I don't care about being convincing, the truth is right there for anyone to see.
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>>20947423
it's done by the manga artist
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>>20946152
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Why did the anime version of Takayuki have a way better design than his VN sprite?
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>>20947678
anime version looks gayer
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>>20947499
the truth of me doing your momma? sure thing buddy
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>>20947790
and then you woke up on her dick
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>>20947678
it's the hair
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>>20947678
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is he right?

>>>/a/239389363
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>>20948161
it's true that the main translator for KimiNozo left. Wasn't it due to not being paid enough for the whole TL?
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>>20948177
Was this confirmed? I remember verdelishJP saying something along the lines of Evan not being punished for caring about KimiNozo so much.
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>>20948217
*being punished
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Except that Total Eclipse was delayed due to bugs in the new engine, rather than they having trouble with localization. At least according to Adam.

I think we might get Kiminozo sooner than people think, the game has a doable length if they strip the release of the fandisks and extra content of the 2008 version, that and by removing the kinky routes.
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>>20948217
I believe someone posted on here about Evan complaining about not getting paid the right amount per lines/words for the TL. Could be wrong though.
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>>20948222
I can't imagine they will cut out added chapter from the 2008 release since they will likely use the 2008 release as a base, though I could see them cutting out the fandisc content. Lack of sexual content is going to be a bitch though. I care more about sexual content being present here than in Muv Luv.
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>>20948233
They can cut it just like they did with Teito Moyu, which is a much bigger loss desu
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>>20948229
Unless it was through some private message or something, the only public statement Evan's made about it was that pastebin he put out, where he said it was due to a variety of factors both on his end and anchor's. Though that could obviously just be him trying to be civil and not burn more bridges than necessary.
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>>20948229
That seems like a very low reason, when he used to it for free of all things before being hired.
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>>20948252
>>20948254
I remember a discord image being posted here or a tweet about his TL not meeting regular pay per line/word. It's probably something else then. Someone also brought up difference in opinions of the work(Evan not wanting anything censored/changed while Avex wanted it to be censored). The point of him caring deeply about KimiNozo and not compromising on his TL of the work also makes sense considering how long he's been TL'ing the game and other works in general. The 'used to do it for free' thing doesn't work. It's the difference between working on a fan mod/fan work and then getting hired to officially do it. Anyone would want to be paid for official work. Some may think lowly of TL work and think it's easy, but it's not. It's a lot of work that should be paid for the work done.
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>>20948262
For me all the money for a joob well done the better, it's just that both of theses don't warrant getting all the fandom stripped from a release that comes from a passion project in the first place.
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>>20948274
job*
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>>20948274
yeah, it's a shame how things turned out. Hopefully we get it someday.
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I hope Evan comes back. Seems like a decent guy.
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Can you believe THIS was Sumika's original design?
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>>20948316
i can't believe it
she still looks like a whore
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>>20948316
You can tell I didn't even glance at Sumika because I can't tell the difference
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How would you get out of this situation?
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>>20948347
Confess my love for Chizuru
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>>20948347
Confess my hatred for Tama
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>>20948274
It's the unfortunate issue that results from trying to go directly to the company to get TL work into an official release. If they get on board, then all is good. But if things end up falling through, it becomes much more risky to release it as a fan-TL because they know who you are and releasing it despite them saying no is a good way to burn bridges in the somewhat small industry.
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>>20948305
If he seems like a decent guy why do you want him to work with crypto retards
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>>20948393
So I can get a better product. He was probably the last line of defense to ensure an English release of Latest Edition with the H-scenes intact would've been possible someway somehow. I also trust his translation work than anyone else granted I didn't have an issue with the choices made with TDA for example.
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>>20948347
Confess my love for Mikoto
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>>20948405
you can always learn japanese, but his work life would be cucked for good.
speaking of working at Anchor, they have 5 days left to have that immortals update stream but haven't posted a date or it and are just ignoring everyone that is asking for one for some reason.
https://twitter.com/Muvluv_IMTs/status/1540172453669998594
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>>20948353
Based Inchobro
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>>20948347
Confess my indifference towards Sumika
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>>20948407
delet this
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>>20948414
Even if I learn Japanese, I will probably always favor English and put more faith in someone who has known Japanese for years and has dedicated years to a translation like Evan has with KimiNozo.
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>>20948262
>>20948229
His girlfriend posted on her curiouscat that she won't support any official Kiminozo TL after Evan left because she doesn't support cheap scab labor. Make of that what you will.
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>>20948509
>>20948229
>>20948262
Source by the way.
Basically the only named reliable source we have for the cause of the dispute other than Evan himself (and Evan himself won't say what it is other than that both sides were at fault) says it was pay related.
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>>20948545
I mean old TL's did it for free so this just sounds like bitching
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https://twitter.com/kycow/status/1540417362121445378
https://twitter.com/kycow/status/1540417039453798401
yuibros...
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>>20948563
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>>20948559
Not bitching if he is given deadlines and has to coordinate with a team and within other branches of the company.
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>>20948559
He ALREADY did it for free. He was negotiating to be paid for an already complete or nearly complete script that he did as a fan
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>>20948567
I remember when they announced it on 2019 i think, Kouki being surprised that Evan had done 80% of the script already without any plans for it, dude was doing it for free and when push come to shove he got greedy
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>>20948586
You are acting like KimiNozo was the only thing we worked on. He was the localization director there for a while and while not directly involved for translations of things like TDA, he still had to coordinate it. If a company wants to use his work for a commercial release and want him to be the localization director on several projects, he should get paid fairly.
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>>20948593
>we
Evan?
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How active is the Muv-Luv speedrunning community?
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>>20948563
is he really going to pretend he didn't announce he was going to write an entire light novel series about Yui, which specifically was going to be a sequel to the Anime?
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So do we hate Evan? Or do we like him?
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>>20948671
we hate age/anchor/the powers that be
we only like the writers/artists
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>>20948617
>The Habsburg route
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>>20948617
>>20948682
to be fair, that could have been referencing following yui's perspective after Yuuya went Awol after rescuing Cryska and Inia
but in my heart of hearts, i would wish for a yui route where they became lovers, do the dirty only to find out that they're half-siblings afterwards - have some angst surrounding it and coming to the realisation that incest is the purest form of love
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>>20948685
and then it turns out that the BETA are just massively inbred humans from far into the future thanks to time travel shenanigans, all descended from this unholy union
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>>20948688
speaking of BETA origins, when I was first reading through Muv-luv I had this little crackpot theory that the BETA were from an alternative heh worldline invading the BETAverse and that they functioned as the multiverse's pruning function
s00mika talking about how she dreamt that she was in a dark room crying and saying that she wished that Takeru would comeback only for there to be two giant twins that shrunk had me thinking about some even order origin theories for the BETA
needless to say, i was slightly disappointed when i learned their actual origins from superior-sama but that's on me for overthinking shit and coming up with crackhead theories
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>>20948274
the fandom reads fucking MTLs made by some sandnigger, it really isn't worth fucking your actual life over for it.
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>>20948831
It really sucks, still better than not releasing it at all tho
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This talk about how advanced flip phones are in Altered Fable is making me feel old
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Uh, guys?

>>>/a/239405064
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>>20948910
If they don't have proof it doesn't matter. And won't matter anyway unless Evan comes back and uses the same script he has been working on.
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I know the anime was bad but did no one really upload the 2nd volume of blurays? I at least wanted to have them.
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Headpats or bellyrubs?
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>>20949014
Execution
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https://twitter.com/Ginrei_Ginrei/status/1540636645505900544
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>>20949014
Both.
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>>20949014
Lise love!
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>>20948347
360 and walk away
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>>20948347
>say "Chizuru a shit"
>turn around
>leave
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why is gouda so crazy?
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I'm finally watching Alternative anime out of pure despair and wew
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I'm not buying these. Where can I DL them all for free?
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>>20949509
The Asset Archive.
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Is this how you feed girls a tomato?
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>See this at a red light
What do?
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>>20950279
key out yuuhi's eyes and leave meiya alone
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>>20950309
Why.
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>>20950279
run it off the road
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>>20950279
Total it so the insurance money can be put to better use like making new Muv-Luv game.
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Why are Muv Luv characters allowed to get drunk with actual alcohol instead of some Kawakami Water or liquor chocolate bullshit like other anime teens?
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>>20951650
because the writers are old perverted men who literally wrote an entire spinoff title about 15 year old lesbian girls tripping on military drugs
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>Adoration

Absolutely fucking kino. It REALLY had me fucking going there and that's exactly what they wanted.

It only brought up more questions though. what did that final operation in Dover look like?
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>>20948419
brother
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>>20952097
You are now aware of the fact that we're never getting Eurofront because of NFTs and mobages
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>>20952218
Welp
guess I'll have to do it myself
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>>20952225
iF ONLY IT WERE THAT EASY
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>>20952275
welp, accidental all caps. Just imagine I said it in german
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>>20952285
I think the Sonic Boomer himself would be the type to use allcaps.
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>>20949249
make sure to fill out the form anons this is our best chance of getting the rest of the side stuff translated, more requests = higher chance
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>>20952097
Can't believe she is now reserved for the Lelouch clone's tiny dick.
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>>20952402
Birds of a feather. They're retarded in such a beautiful, complimentary manner
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>>20952402
makabe got siblingzoned
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>>20952402
You clearly haven't played the VN
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>>20952593
>>20952625
Isn't incest relatively common for European royalties (muh families must politically stay in power) and the Japanese (muh kinks)? Siblingzone - negated!
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>>20952805
It's not real incest, she just saw him as a kid brother because she literally thought he was a literal child, yes she's that retarded
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>>20952825
I know what's siblingzone anon, my solution hint works for it as well, trust me
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Hope they make a Eurofront VN to bring back that cast.
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>>20953415
they announced, who knows when they will release tho
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>>20953431
right after the immortals relaunch, the resonative launch, the integrate launch, and mikhail leaving early access.
just remember to keep buying the NFTs as they pop up.
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yeah yeah
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>>20953431
Did they confirm it is a VN?
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>>20953466
To be fair, they will probably want Schwarzesmarken and KimiNozo translated before Integrate.
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>>20953636
No, but he had his new co-writer on in that episode where they talked about how much of a pain in the ass completing the resonative script was and the guy mentions he is currently working on eurofront.
Earlier in the episode Kouki talks about how avex/anchor owns the scripts he submits and they can choose to adapt it into any kind of media they see fit. Also the same episode where they start all these topics by joking about how they really wouldn't talk about all this stuff, but theres no way the supervisors are watching because they'rre busy with the immortals shitstorm.
So they are almost certainly writing it as a VN script, but Avex can do whatever they want with it. Kouki isn't overseeing game development directly like he used to anymore either, he just writes and submits.
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>>20952910
the fact remains that she saw zero sexual appeal in him, plus we got a timeskip and he's nowhere near her
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>>20953660
Ilfie's too busy mooning over Wilfried von Aichberger to think of anyone else.

Speaking of, Aichberger is German, but he has dark skin. Is he meant to be a halfbreed?
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>>20953683
>German, but he has dark skin
Anon, I don't know how to tell you this...
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>>20953691
Germans aren't black. Hitler told me so.
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Kinda weird that Takeru's VR porn fantasy about Meiya is mostly a lecture on environmentalism
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>>20953683
He's just Okinawan
Uh wait, I mean it's just a tan
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>>20948710
You're not the only one to have thought of something like that, myself included. Makes me wonder if that wasn't Kouki's original idea.
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>>20948710
>>20953846
It'd just be a gunbuster ripoff, at least this one is original and really enhances the suffering since it means all our trials were for some trivial insignificant reason that the world doesn't care about
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Finished the manga. It was pretty good.

So if I want to know more about siliconians, what should I do?
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>>20953846
the two twins were always supposed to be the yokohama gbombs, don't ask me why the fuck he made that shit so weird. Honestly think he doesn't even know himself
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>>20953871
>So if I want to know more about siliconians, what should I do?
Wait for Integrate probably, but I doubt it will take the manga epilogue into account
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>>20953871
give up because there is nothing and there never will be. Assuming Resonative releases within the next 3 years, integrate 3 years after that, and eurofront 3 years after that, which is highly fucking unlikely, then you'd still need to wait god knows how many more years to finally actually get the muv luv 40k space adventure. Kouki will literally croak of old age, he is already complaining about his back.
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So is Altered Fable Kasumi literally Alternative Kasumi or just gets glimpses of her memory for casualty reasons?
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>>20953871
wait, is this the Unlimited ending? Who are these characters? I only recognize Yuuko
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>>20953876
So let me see if I got this right:

Siliconians sees carbon based life as materials, so for them neither beta nor humans are living beings, they are just materials/drones for getting more and more materials?

So that is the nature of the beta? literal drones that are working and evolve by getting attacked and repel them further to get more materials?

>>20953880
I just finished reading the two last volumes, so I have lots of things to process, the whole world of muvluv and age for me it is unexplored, so I don't have to rush hehe

In the end I also didn't care much for Sumika nor meiya, the only one who made my heart feel anything was Marimo-chan.

>>20953885
It is Kasumi 48 years later.
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>>20953887
>Siliconians sees carbon based life as materials, so for them neither beta nor humans are living beings, they are just materials/drones for getting more and more materials?
Same way we see machines, which are silicon "beings"

Also, how does the manga differ from the VN? This "Epilogue 48 years later" is new to me. So the twintail girl is Kasumi, what about the loli next to Yuuko?
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>>20953876
It is funny in seeing how this epilogue really broads the possibilities, even for a newfag as myself, all the names, things and stuff that it shows and the possibilities that we can have with it, with sequels and so on it was done pretty well.

Not even sure if it is canon or not to the whole, but as a manga, it is pretty cool.

But the thing about the manga that I have to say is this: the fights and action scenes were fucking terrible. I mostly skipped because there was nothing cool about it, I believe the artist behind the muvluv unlimited did a way better job at it when I read it years ago.

>>20953890
I don't know since I never played the vn.
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>>20953890
But Kouki says something about future stuff being fitted into the story, maybe it is related to this? Dunno.
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>>20953887
>so for them neither beta nor humans are living beings
I don't think siliconians even know about humans, they just created the BETA and sent them to spread and gather materials across the universe withot even entertaining the possibility of there being sentient carbon life out there. They just programmed the BETA to not kill other life forms but defined life forms as sentient silicon beings like them because why would there be anything else out there
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>>20953894
huh, these look similar to the designs for the scrapped sequel, exogularity or something like that
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>>20953890
and the staff of the epilogue manga. For those who know who they are, maybe can elucidate things.
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>>20953897
they also developed warp gates and want to send people for the siliconians to have some talk/war.

>>20953896
You know, the thing about this that bothers me is that the siliconian that was on earth was a single individual, it said that there are billions of it out there. Even if there aren't similar to us, some may find other types of life with these numbers in the universe.

Also, if we don't have info on siliconians, I guess info on the Creators are out of question then?

>>20953898
ah forgot to say: this was released in 2017
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>>20953903
wait a second...
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>>20953903
>You know, the thing about this that bothers me is that the siliconian that was on earth was a single individual, it said that there are billions of it out there
Wait, unless the manga made some big change I think you are getting confused. Siliconians are the creators and there were none of them on Earth, the one Takeru has the final confrontation with that gives us the BETA lore is just the head BETA of the hive, a "central computer" of sorts for the Earth BETA
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>>20953930
my mistake, I thought this one was an alien that created by the Creator, who was something else unrelated to it in the chain of betas.

I thought it was a midboss to the creators boss level. lol
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>>20953971
The hierarchy goes
>Siliconians
Consider silicon as the only possible type of life, created the BETA to mine random planets, programmed them to avoid any planets with life (silicon)
>BETA
Organic (meaning carbon-based, not silicon) worker drones, not considered alive by their creators and in turn they do not consider any organics as life. No malicious intent, they simply seek the most efficient way to mine the planet.
>Superordinate
BETA, organic, being. Central computer of a BETA "invasion", commands and directs the invasion, sends commands to all the smaller hives. The figure it gives to takeru is that there's eight gorillion other "beings like itself" meaning, superordinates. This means that that amount of planets are being mined by BETA across the universe currently.
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>>20953977
I get that they are mining it, but what do they do with the mining stuff? do they carry outerspace? is it a portal or something?
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>>20953995
You know how BETA hives are like a tower with an opening on the top? They put all the minerals in a ball and shoot it out into space through that opening. We don't know where it goes or what is it for, but presumably it just goes to fuel whatever the fuck industries the siliconians have on their planet
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>>20953896
One of my favorite theories is that the siliconians aren't even around and that the BETA all across the universe have been sending materials to a species that has been extinct for billions of years.
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>>20953895
He means that the mangaka fitted in various side stories and references from games that came out after alternative like TDA takeru going on a rant about how bad things got after alternative 5 with a panel that had kurogane out of frame and TE with the Fort Laser Class
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>>20953750
Also weird that his fantasy about Chizuru includes NTR.
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>>20953977
Pretty much everything the Superordinate says is suspect especially since Kouki stated on twitter a while back that the Sol system BETA were damaged by a supernova.
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>>20954762
why would it like? It isn't even sentient
>kouki said they were damaged
did he? That's weird, what did this damage cause?
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DOKTOR
TURN OFF MY PAIN INHIBITORS
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What is the production value like in Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken
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>>20954810
in terms of the animus? fuck and all.
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>>20954808
>Be Yuzu
>Like a guy
>But he's in a relationship with another girl
>Axe murder her so hard he gets amnesia
>Tell him you did it to protect him
>Marry him

Delightfully devious Sendou
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>>20954810
Total Eclipse is avarage among the vns made by âge, Teito Moyu is really impressive tho
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>>20954810
TE is pretty cool, but I'm biased
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>>20954810
TE is really cool if you're into TSFs and TSF vs TSF combat but it does feel pretty far removed from the general atmosphere of alternative and even TDA funnily enough teito moyu does though
The Berkut itself is fantastic and is my favourite TSF and I am eternally jealous that Yuuya has a harem of 13 of them via esper dummy plugs
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How exactly does the island segment of Altered Fable work? Do I need to select a pair of girls and then reject their invitation for the next row of choices to become available?
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>>20953871
Wait, the last volume is out?
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>>20954940
Yes
https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/1537013804370108416
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Any guess to the price of TE? I only can afford to spend 45 dollars on it.
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>>20954810
SM was trying quite hard, but after the Anime flopped, the second VN clearly cut corners. It's also quite short. Part 1 of SM is about twice as long as TM, and TM was about 5k lines. And part 2 is supposed to be even shorter. They're the shortest main entries by far.
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Is there a high quality image of Super Genshikin?

I want to make some lineart of it because it is fucking cool
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>>20955160
brainfart.

Super Gekishin
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>>20955120
you say that like TE itself isn't short as fuck and about twice as long as TM
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>>20955173
Wow this looks retarded
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>>20955211
TE in full has 27,500 lines. It's about five times as long as TM.
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>>20949401
based
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>>20952218
why do you guys keep forgetting they announced a Eurofront successor this year? https://youtu.be/W_tCyMPDNGM
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>>20954808
damn he's got a fat ass.
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>>20955173
for me, it's the terminator and berkut
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>>20955245
Could just be a NFT project or something uninteresting
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>>20955269
I hope they're smart enough to back out of it since they saw the NFT market crash.
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>>20955226
ok.
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>>20955274
implying they didnt put all their money into nft development to be left holding the back was they saw the market collapse
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>>20955277
sadly, that seems like something they'd do.
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So how long are Total Eclipse and Schwarzesmarken really?
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Battlemechs vs BETAS....

How long do you think it'll take for them to adjust to those monsters?
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>>20955853
An Atlas would get wrecked in 5 mins by the first destroyer squad it meets, never mind a few laser class just wrecking its rear armor. The lighter mechs wont even last that long. They would be basically grounded TSFs.
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>>20955842
play time votes on EGS averaged out
>muv-luv(extra + unlimited): 30h (145 votes)
>alternative: 40h (360 votes)
>chronicles 1: 7h (52 votes)
>chronicles 2: 15h (31 votes)
>chronicles 3: 12h (28 votes)
>chronicles 4: 13h (30 votes)
>TE ps3 :28h (13 votes)
>TE xbox: 36h (same game but literally only 1 vote because japan hates xbox)
>TE PC: 35h (includes TM, 26 votes)
>Altered fable: 23h (24 votes)
>SM 1: 20h (26 votes)
>SM 2: 18h (29 votes)
>Kimi ita remake: 30h (11 votes)
>Kiminozo LE. 40h (71 votes)
>Owarinaki: 23h (21 votes)
>Rance 10 : 100h (302 votes)
If you check the individual sites you can see a breakdown of the times submitted, games with routes have the least consistent times because people submit times after ragequitting the game or after having only finished certain routes.
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>>20955991
No way that Owarinaki or Kiminozo are that that short
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Are there any unlocalized muv-luv games that aren't on steam yet?
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>>20956072
three routes in Altered fable were fan-translated and aren't censored.
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>>20956060
Owarinaki really isn't all that long, Kiminozo has several votes in the 70-100h area. the average time of LE and the dvd spec are literally the same even though LE straight up has more content, people simply cannot be bothered reading it all.
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>>20955991
Muv Luv Extra+Unlimited+Alternative are easily over 100 hours
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>>20956304
they really are not.
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>>20956316
I would guess the average if you didn't speed read extra/read just one route on new releases is probably closer to 80-85 total but I wouldn't go to 100 either. I wish I had accurate times for my original read but that was back in fan tl days.
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>>20956332
ohmyge, is this picture real?
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My playtimes on steam are:
Muv Luv: 71.4hs (100%)
Muv Luv Alternative: 86.4hs (100%)
Muv Luv Photonflowers: 30.2hs (100%)
Muv Luv Photonmelodies: 53.4hs (did both sidestories, Meiya and Chizuru's Altered Fable routes, currently doing Kashiwagi's. I suppose it will be in the 60 something hours range to fill up the gallery)

Each one has some hours running in the background while I do other stuff but I don't think it was that much
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>>20953977
why did the BETA rape you know who, if they don't see humans as alive, why did they did those experiments.
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>>20956871
why do we cut up rocks to build our houses if we don't see them as alive
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>>20956871
They don't recognize them as life forms but they are still a potential threat they have to deal with. Yuuko compared it to humans doing research on natural disasters. If we could rape hurricanes into submission we probably would.
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>>20955947
Thats cute you think that.
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>>20957028
His conclusion is correct but his thinking is wrong.
Tanks would be far better at mulching through the armour of assault mechs like the Atlas. They'd benefit from use of much longer range weapons, so the larger mechs would paradoxically hang back unlike usual Battletech/mechwarrior combat.

Some of the light mechs run as fast as BETA herds do. Terrain providing, They'd do pretty well at defense-in-depth actions. I question how well they'd do once meeting the laser-class, for we have no metric of measuring laser weapons in Battletech vs. the ones produced by the BETA.

Live or die, it's pic related.
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>>20957049
Unless we assume that the TSF armor is somehow way worse than even the crappiest battlemech stuff I have to imagine the laser class, at least by 2001, are more powerful.
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>>20957049
How would laser class be effective against Battlemechs when they are designed to be utilized against air support? Maybe LAMs yes but Battlemechs noo..

Plus Battlemechs aint squishy. Mediums might be able to take 1 or 2 blasts and still keep on trucking while Heavy's and Assaults can weather beatings.
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>>20957075
For me the big thing that would make them more vulnerable is the way lasers are shown to target one spot of your armor and just keep hitting it. Lasers, even pulse lasers, in battletech lore don't do that. They'll spread damage around even in a specific area until eventually they get through vs poking a pinpoint hole and getting at the soft bits.
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>>20957079
Luckily for us majority of Battlemechs are smaller then your standard TSFs..Also they don't fly.
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look at how they massacred my girl
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>>20957053
What is TSF armor made of exactly?
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>>20956871
That's always been kind of a plothole handwaved as "they studied us as we would study rocks or the dirt" but the real reason is to have a tentacle rape scene
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Is Tsukiji in lesbians with Akane?
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Finished the Super Gekishin, I will paint it as Zambot 3 and it will look cool as fuck.
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>>20957269
Done, it looks cool as fuck.
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>>20957208
maybe look up what a plothole actually is
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>>20957269
got any pictures of it?
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>>20957328
>>20957288
bro?
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>>20957140
dumb bitch deserved it
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>>20957353
>>20957353
>>20957353
oh, thought it was a model kit, my bad
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I have never read Muv-Luv.
How are the official translations?
Is any of the content, H or otherwise, censored?
Thank you for your time.
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>>20957462
The Steam release of the 2 main games has the H-scenes removed but there's a patch to restore them, easy to find on the very Steam forums. Photonflowers and Photonmelodies, 2 collections of side stories, also have no H-scenes but there's no way to restore them since the console collections they are ported from never included said scenes in the first place, just the original individual PC releases
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>>20957462
>How are the official translations?
offical and fan translations are both pretty shit but perfectly readable
>Is any of the content, H or otherwise, censored?
yes, you need paid directors cut patches they stopped selling years ago because they're retarded. Only way to get them now is pirating.
the modern versions also remove a bgm song even if you have the patch installed, because it was a parody of an actual song and they couldn't be bothered paying the licensing fee.
In the original releases characters also used to have erect nipples visible in clothing through various scenes but all the modern versions have removed that because they use art assets that were originally created for the japanese console ports in 2011. Installing the patches doesn't change it
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>>20957486
oh I forgot, the original releases also had several lines of engrish. the modern releases re-recorded all them to no longer be engrish because somebody from the kickstarter translation team mentioned to the devs the english fanbase found them funny or something.
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>>20946152
fuck you anon, i'm tired of seeing this coomer shit every time i visit the board
muv luv threads are always coomer-tier but you took it to the next level you mongoloid
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>>20957049
My thinking was that you will have 50 to 100 BETA, each 50 tons and more, charging towards a 100 ton mech. With shells that are harder than endosteel. BETA don't fight in lances or formations, they fight in hordes. Once your mech is on its back, thats where the tank class makes sure you never stand up again.
Maybe you can load 30 machine guns on the assault mech, but then TSAs are already basically that in Muvluv.
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I would have liked for Altered Fabel to delve a little more into the characters personal lives, just to see how much 00Sumika changed about the world. Like, we know she not only saved Meiya's family, but also got rid of the whole "twins are icky and should be slpit at birth" thing, but did she also change the minor stuff like Class Rep having a shitty relationship with her mom, or Ayamine's family scandal?
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>>20957636
she did because Haruka and Mitsuki are both around at the same time with no major drama
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>>20957610
Destroyers possible. Though I doubt ones gonna survive having 100 tons hammerblow one into the ground.
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>>20957777
The first one maybe. But there's another 50 to 100 destroyers behind it and all around the Altas. The smaller mechs wont even survive the first hit. Those with jumpjets will overheat too fast to survive much longer.
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>>20957782
Usually the Atlas won't be alone and honestly I doubt the Destroyers where designed to absorb PPC fire...Or even hell LRMs equipped with Thunder Warheads.
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>>20957785
Again, the lance may take out the first wave, but BETA use horde tactics, and once the weapons overheat or ammo runs out and stop firing its game over man.
Already did this discussion in 2012, Battlemechs just don't have the capacity to fight a literal wall of BETA that doesnt give them space to maneuver, just like how a tank battalion would get wrecked in similar situations on the ground. Flight is a necessity, not an option. Now don't get started on helicopters with arms please. Been there, done that.
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>>20957796
Man. Even I'm not dumb to think a single lance of Mechs could handle that. Mostly like a whole Regiment would be put to use to put down the BETA threat. Plus liberal use of Warcrimes against them since they don't fall under the Ares Convention.

Who called for Arrow IVs equipped with Davey Crocket payloads?
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>>20957810
I'll repeat myself for the last time, but I don't think you grasp the scale of the BETA force any mech or TSF unit is going to face at any one time. It starts from 1000 and goes up to several hundred thousand at the Regiment level. How many Regiments of Battlemechs the entire Earth can field at one time? And what happens if that force takes critical losses, and then the next BETA wave comes?
Also, laser class intercepts missiles so your Arrow IVs need to be SRMs to even get to hit the targets, and that means you're in biting range of the BETA...
Look just go look up BETA tactics on the wikia. Those explain more than I can or want to type.
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>>20957835
Replace the Arrow IVs with Longtoms if they can pinpoint warheads.

Its uncommon for Merc outfits to have a Regiment but most IS houses usually have over 100 Regiments of Battlemechs, ComGuard alone has I believe 60.
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I feel like a retard for caring about this but Immortals literally has chosen to simply ignore the update stream they were supposed to have
at the end of this month(it was supposed to be at the start originally), not even delaying it. I guess they still have a day left to do it before the month ends in japan but there has been no announcement or stream link. Their last tweet was 5 days ago and just about refunds. This project might actually be the biggest clusterfuck of a mobile game I have ever witnessed, atleast disgaea actually ended up relaunching.
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>>20957835
If your talking about Terra then its ComGaurd the BETA they have to deal with.

Or Wobbies. And if they are dealing with Wobbies well I hope they enjoy being nuked into oblivion.
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where the fuck do i find the beta schoolgirl sex this shit has disappeared off the internet in every capacity https://vndb.org/v21816
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>>20957959
1 and 2 are hidden content in chronicles, go import old magazines for EX or find the spaniards that translated it before their whole group and website died
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>>20957959
Getting the other sprites would be nice.
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>>20957075
Lasers have been used against naval ships, even in alternative. Anything tall enough is a target.

>>20957079
This 100%, Battlemech armour is ablative. It will hold up at maximum capacity until it drops to zero when you break through. All the laser needs to do is keep poking the same spot.
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>>20957288
YAMATO DAMASHIII
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Battlemechs would also be incapable of penetrating a hive with any efficacy.

Frankly, without setting out a strong set of rules and scenarios, such as modeling how BETA would play in tabletop and then simulating at least a company-level battlemech force in tabletop vs a Brigade sized BETA horde, we won't know. And that tabletop game would would be long enough take us past the release of TE, Resonative and Integrate.
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>>20958196
What are the mechanics of get-raped-by-BETA?

Uses hex tiles after all.
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How does Yuuhi do it? How does she manage to be so unappealing and unattractive compared to Meiya?
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>>20958479
doesn't gave GP-02 hair
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>>20958140
Majority of Battlemechs are smaller then TSAs with maybe the exception of Banshees.

>>20958196
Appearantly the concept of Warcriming it away flees your attention.
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What version of unlimited is in the mega archive? does it have h scenes?
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>>20958901
given that it comes with an english patch I would assume it's the original version with the H-scenes
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>>20958901
its the original release version
look in the Gdrive if you want 20th Anniversary (i think its there)
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>>20957906
month is over so now they offically delayed it to someitme this month :)
https://twitter.com/Muvluv_IMTs/status/1542088524526133248?cxt=HHwWgICxyffVzOYqAAAA
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>>20957049
Laser strains probably won't last long. Outfit a couple of Light Mechs with Laser Reflective Armor and proceed to have them litteraly stomp on the Laser Strains like little bugs....

For the larger Laser variants probably a couple of medium lasers in the eyes will probably solve the equation.
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I'm currently a couple hours into the first VN, is it really worth it? I despise every character and all the shitty harem cliches they bring with them. I know it ditches the harem setting later, but if these are the characters I'm stuck with I don't think I will enjoy it either way.
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>>20959532
The way the characters work in Unlimited and Alternative is functionally very different. I hated Extra Meiya but in Unlimited and Alternative she's great. All their characters remain largely the same but recontextualizing them and removing the harem element is functionally a massive change. Stick with it.
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>>20959579
Also I treated Extra like junk food, though I consumed no harem media before playing Muv Luv last year so it had a weirdly comfy novelty to it.
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>>20958709
But the Gerbera Tetra is cooler than the ugly piece of shit GP02, yet Meiya is the superior sister
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>>20959579
>there is no harem element in unlimited and alternative
Funniest shit I've read all day.
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>>20959532
no, drop it
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>Tama has a single CG in Altered Fable, and it's a flashback one from Unlimited
I sense some bias here
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>>20946152
When did this general became a coomer central?
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>>20960080
The game itself is coomer material.
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>>20960088
Not really. I never felt horny while playing it
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they dont make them like they used to
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>>20960187
UNNNGH BASED MINIMALISM
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>>20959732
she had a bunch more, but they got cut in the western release.
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>>20960187
well at least the anime ost isn't THAT terrible despite how the disk looks. it gives nods to some original songs from alt and extra, and some of the other songs aren't that bad sounding either. still very mediocre compared to the trilogy's ost
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>>20960187
>>20960199
is the track that nods to the alt menu theme from the first anime trailer on it because i don't remember hearing it in the show
this one https://youtu.be/7qvsRRa-nGY
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>>20960199
idk, evan call's stuff is great the anime just sucks shit so there's no attachment like we get to the OG ost
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>>20960573
no, but the last track of the album, one last crash, vaguely sounds familiar to the menu music, or maybe im just tone deaf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJDjFp9bsLQ
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>>20960092
No..Its coomer material. The pilot suits make even Battletech go wut....
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1-10 how good is eclispe
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>>20960785
6.5/7 out of 10
it's alright, it rushes really hard after it gets past the part where the anime leaves off
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>>20960601
Evan Call worked on the MLA anime OST?
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>>20960875
he made the ost
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>>20959532
They're all significantly less bubbly in unlimited, their flaws aren't played up for laugh anymore.
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>>20959532
drop it if you don't like the characters, its not for you
dont be like snob to complain you willingly wasted 100 hours on something you don't like
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Best place to find volks figures
Can be a3 or tmc I don't care
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Did they end up only re-releasing figures for the anime? I haven't seen much merch posting.
Seems like half the point of an anime is to make money off this shit isn't it?
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TE didnt even have any chibis
not a real muvluv
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>>20960785
It's really average, the cutscenes lifted from the anime are as shit as they've always been, and to truly understand what is happening you need to watch a 50 minute video of Kouki scribbling on his whiteboard because to be perfectly honest, the writing really isn't all there.
TM is actually good though
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>>20961082
The only brand new toy merch they announced with the anime was a Fubuki kit, but it still hasn't come out yet. Just re-releases for all of Koto's previous TSF kits but with an anime logo sticker on the box
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>>20961342
I thought it was building up to something, then the plagiarism happened and it just ended abruptly.
Then again you can say the original also had an abrupt ending after yokohama.
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TANNED ANIME GIRLS UUUOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>20961428
it's not a tan, she's indian
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>>20961430
I don't remember any indians in the VN
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>>20961428
NEGER NEGER SCHORNSTEINFEGER
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>>20961431
nepalese are pretty much indians and one of the support corporals is an actual indian
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>>20961365
>I thought it was building up to something, then the plagiarism happened and it just ended abruptly
the TE VN ends the way it did because Kouki was a hack who thought the messages he was trying to deliver were so clear that showing anything more would be overkill, he actually kind of says he was wrong about that in the video rant
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>Sooooooo like Inia can read people's emotions and because she's a retard she can't tell what negative emotions are so when she saw Yuuya's daddy issues, she thought he had a really pretty colour and because Cryska syncs her psyche and personality with Inia in prachviikchaiav Inia thinking Yuuya's colour is super pretty gets translated into love to Cryska and this gets passed onto those clones based off her
>Sooooooooo when you mix the negative emotions Yuuya has towards his dad and Cryska's love, you get a Total Eclipse get it!?
it's so fucking silly
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>>20961431
There's one in TDA. Well, Australian-born Indian
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>>20961593
>Alternative project uniform
Don't do that, don't give me hope
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>>20961600
Pretty sure that's from Strike Frontier
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>>20961600
It's old art so it's fine.
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>>20957912
Wobbies...Yeah I don't think the BETA will last long against them.
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>>20961603
It's older than that. I think it's just old promo art.
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I just finished all Altered Fable routes in Photonmelodies and am still missing one CG, It's either the last Yuuhi or first Chizuru one in the gallery, any ideas?
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>>20961769
Never mind, it was for going to the beach with Meiya and Yuuhi but refusing to play smash the watermelon
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>>20962137
Yup
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>liking a character not popular enough to get tons of fanart
>liking a character who died a horrible death
It hurts.
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>>20960199
>well at least the anime ost isn't THAT terrible
Mindbroken.
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>>20959532
Drop it, we don't need another animesnob crying about wasting time on something he hated. If you don't like the character banter and interactions and the comedy does nothing for you, I really doubt that the series will be of any enjoyment even with all the drama and subversion which is soon to follow. Read something else if you hate fun.
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>>20962612
Sex with Kei while Chizuru watches!
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>>20962618
I'd rather go with a threesome with two of them fighting for my dick.
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>>20962515
yes i am mindbroken but not delusional. it's honestly not that bad of an ost. have you listened to it? it has some good tracks in there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNoT8qkn3sU
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So think Integrate will really let the old cast rest or will it somehow fuck up the Altered Fable timeline to drag Takeru and Kasumi back into the suffering?
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>>20962618
>>20962620
Sagiri stop posting, you're going to jail
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>>20962769
they better let the old cast rest, their story is done
integrate probably won't release within our lifetimes anyway, since avex runs things now
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>>20962769
i doubt the old cast will return in any meaningful way, Kouki said Takeru's story ended in AF
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>>20962769
you will get your future clones and you will like it.
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>>20962769
Kasumi has never left, she was copied over to AF and not transported.
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>>20962769
You'll get the exo clones who have different hairstyles and you'll like it
weren't the clones supposed to be espers or some shit? it'd be pretty wild if they ended up doing the shit the espers in TE did with reading the near future and moving based on that
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the exo-clones are the cargo-cult approach to TSF aces

>Hey these guys did pretty well as pilots
>what if we cloned them while asserting their abilities are genetic?
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Katia or Vivi, who is more cute and likable?
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>>20962982
made for being crushed by rubble
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Tell me more about these exo-clones, are they those girls from the manga epilogue that look suspiciously like Meiya and co.?
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>>20962982
Vivi of course, what are you? A dog-fucker?
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>>20962318
There's some fanart out there, if you know where to look.
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>original vas: fired
>tda writer: fired
>eurofront: never
>total eclipse x rated: never ever
>gachashit: doa
>steam releases: windows 10 exclusive
give me one reason to be excited about mub rub in 2022
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>>20963700
NFTs
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>>20963700
fubuki model kit
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>>20963700
You almost sound like you are still running windows 7 or vista, what's wrong with you.
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>>20964034
he also believes that TE was ever even concidered to be x rated in any way possible, running win7 in 2022 fits his level of intellect quite right
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>>20964114
Windows 7 was really good, even I had a hard time letting go of it.

What was even the lewdest thing they showed in TE, was it Stella in her bathrobe?
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>>20953896
apparently in that scuffed mobile game where Yuuko managed to convince the Superior that humans were living beings, the BETA immediately went into exterminate all life mode and took off the kid gloves
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>>20964381
This is retarded. Why exterminate life if they were specifically given instructions to avoid populated planets?
These doujin writers who wrote the mobile games are insane
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>>20958196
neither are TSFs lmao 100% failure rate until they have a super robot or when the hive is giga gimped
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>>20964394
Probably to not piss off civilizations that may actually pose a threat, but if BETA already have landed and actually wrecked the locals, then practically it would be better to finish the job.

Then again, BETA aren't exactly a credible threat to any spacefaring civilization. They have no answer to orbital bombardment and can't even roll over Cold War Earth as is. Though who knows what they can be capable of once they actually start optimizing for war. Can they actually become a Tyrannid level threat if they tried?
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>>20964394
>These doujin writers who wrote the mobile games are insane
It's not even doujin writers, the lead writer was tashiro hayato who has been at age for like 20 years. Kouki was the only guy over there who actually had autism regarding muv luv, to the others its just cute girls, alien and giant robots.
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>>20964419
>Though who knows what they can be capable of once they actually start optimizing for war
You get stuff like the Fort Laser Class, as in the BETA got an understanding for warfare after s00mika leaked a bunch of shit to them. Regular BETA are essentially miners and labourers and aren't optimised for combat, who knows what other shit there could have been if they didnt crush the original hive as soon as they did.
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>>20963700
The quality of the animation
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>>20965050
*for the second season



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