I recognized Midorikawa, Man-Spider, what I assume is Hayase aka Scorpion Man, but who is the girl supposed to be? Female Tachibana?
>>20845922Can't tell if bait or forgetful
>>20845926I genuinely forgot about Ruriko's existence which is why I deleted the post.
>>20845931To be fair she's only in the first batch of episodes and then disappears entirely. The early episodes were my favorites, but by the time I was done with the show I had completely forgotten about her.
>>20846011Also she has nowhere near the focus that is given to Hongo's own humanity
I feel like nobody really seems to talk about The First anymore.
>>20846134It was alright. I can at least rewatch it and enjoy it, unlike The Next.
>>20846134What's there to say? I watched it recently with low expectations and I was still frustrated by it.
>>20846134That's the issue with The First pretty much attempting to be its own thing but not being very popular.
>>20845879Im gonna be honest with you guys, this looks bland and cheap as fuck, could be any other Toei KR production. Its visually nowhere near Shin Godzilla or Ultraman. So was Higuchi the secret ingredient, not Anno?
>>20846267Shit, Ultraman's supposed to be out like.. NOW isn't it.
>>20846269Literally today, they played the KR PV before it played
>>20846267No I just think Anno's autistic and wanted to make this look like the original show. He even has hair sticking out of the bottom of the helmet, there's a million cuts for one jump and they fight in the same autistic way.
>>20846134It was okay, the best thing about it was mostly the suits. It kinda bugged me that it tried to play half and half with the idea that the kaijin were just dudes in costumes and how Hongo and Ichimonji put their helmets on manually, but also they sort of transform and have their suits appear between cuts but then their helmets just appear in their hands as well, and it doesn't really work. They probably should have just picked one or the other.
>>20846277based anno autism
Every VillainIs Lemons
>>20846134It's not very good, plain and simple.Inoue and Shirakura got everything right about a modern reimagining of Showa with Faiz but just didn't bother much for The First.
>>20846277You remember the weird string like things emanating from the Wunder in Rebuild of Eva?Anno's love for the media of his youth even encapsulates the minute goofs in effectswork, and how it's just part of the experience and something you can't just take away without denying what it is an entire generation was raised on.
>>20845879Shin Sentai in a few years?
>>20846485Still got to get ShinMan 2 and ShinSeven, which were gonna originally be 2022 and 2023 respectively. So are probably pushed to 2024 and 2025
>>20846450I mean in The First it was Sacred Hegemony Of Cycle Kindred Evolutionary Realm.
>>20846485All Anno needs is Shin Gorenger and he'll have tackled all four major tokusatsu franchises. Wouldn't be surprised if he tried a Shin Gavan somewhere down the line too.
>>20846267I much prefer this movie being more practical with effects than suffer the eye-rape of modern KR.
>>20846267I guarantee the cinematography in this will still be several cuts above Toei's usual.
>>20846499Probably 24/25 and 26/27 going by the conference the other day
>>20846485I get the feeling the point, from Anno's perspective, is to revamp stuff that he's specifically attached to in his childhood. Has he ever shown much love to Sentai? I know he watched it and liked it enough, but Ultraman and Kamen Rider feel they were much more important to him
>>20846693>>20846485I think it depends what other creatives he wants to let into Shin. ATM its just really him and Higuchi in lead roles, but I could definitely see letting someone he trusts go ahead with Shin Sentai
>>20846702Yeah I wouldn't be exactly surprised by a Shin Sentai, I'm just also not expecting it to be likely either.
>>20846483Rebuild looked like shit though, especially the CG which was the modern stuff he wanted
>>20846267It looks like a modern The First or something like Kikaider Reboot.
I wonder if Tobei Tachibana is in this? Also it seems like they rolled Taki and Ruriko's character into one.
>>20846604 Kamen Rider without CG is just boring. This trailer confirms this whole movie is nothing but low-effort boomer nostalgia.
>>20846471The First and The Next were something released too early for their time, back when Japanese movie industry and kamen rider brand itself undeveloped. The Next bugged me alot, due to how straight forward it was on subjects like extreme body horror and supernatural disaster. That movie was Inoue unfiltered and probably something i like but don't want to look at it again.The First however, was one of those " ok it exists". Nothing too stand out.
We're now at a point where Kamen Rider: No Way Home could be a thing.
>>20846954Kamen Rider already had alot of returning actors for crossovers.
>>20846960I meant specifically for the first series.
>>20846929>Kamen Rider without CG is just boring(You)
>>20846976It's not 1971 anymore grandpa.
>>20846988I'm really shocked and disappointed how much Moore 007 is on there.
>>20846991They were the ones that would've been coming out when he'd have been old enough to go to the theatres to watch foreign action movies for a bit of an older audience.>>20846988God this is making me imagine Shin Giant Robo and salivating
>>20846267It looks like Anno's typical pseudo-documentary style
>>20846929>not appreciating fighting coreographiesHow is to live without a penis?
>>20847024No CG is boring. What's even the point in it being Kamen Rider if you're not going to have flashy effects?
>>20846991That's all of the Moore 007 movies
>>20846982ZO doesn't have CG and it's great. But I will also admit I dislike most Kamen Rider shows, or at the very least find them dull.
>>20847038Your 90's nostalgia is showing.
>>20846988Shin spectreman when? And get the Eva composer for it since his dad was one of the of co-creators of that show
>>20846988>Shin Tom and Jerry
>>20846988Shin Cyborg 009 pls
>>20846080>>20846011It's curious both The First and Anno Rider increased Ruriko's role (even if The First renamed her Asuka). Probably it's well-known that the first 14 episodes approach to Ishinomori's original vision for the show but the kids were either bored or scared so after Fujioka's accident, Toei retooled the show for less angst and horror and more crazy karate action. Like these reboots are aimed to adults aka old fans, they try to continue with Ishinomori's original vision that was cut down for being too adult for kids
>>20846604>the eye-rape of modern KR
Of all the Riders to give a modern remake, why chose the oldest and most boring, where you can have the least fun with, and won't immediately attract many fans because of the age? Isn't Anno's actual favorite Faiz? Why didn't he do that instead?
>>20847043>nostalgiaI saw ZO for the first time a couple years ago. It's aged far better than the vast majority of KR material.
>>20846604>suffer the eye-rape of modern KR
>>20847038The only things that weren't dull about ZO were the monster suits (which were few), the practical effects and maybe the crazy grandpa. It's like calling Unicorn one of the greatest Gundam entries just because it had some impressive eye candy.
>>20847060The First is its own weird beast. It puts a lot of emphasis on a love triangle and a rivalry between Ichimonji and Hongo. I don't think Shin is going to go for anything like that, but Ichimonji appearing at all means it can't just be a remake of early episodes unless he doesn't appear until the climax or something. Everyone expects Nigo so he had to show up, even if I sort of wish he didn't.
>>20847080Are people in here pretending the original Kamen Rider wasn't a legitimately awful series? Is it contrarianism, boomerism, or what?
>>20847096I find ZO's choreography to be lame as fuck. Other than that, the rest of it were solid for a short film.
>>20847096It's 40 minutes long. It does enough. I'd still rather watch it three times in a row than watch something like Zero-One (which I couldn't even finish a single episode of).
>>20847106You are being a contrarian here, retardbro
>>20847081You can still have nostalgia for the time period it took place in. (Early 90's)
>>20847116You don't know what contrarian means, clearly. Even /krg/ will tell you the original series is terrible.
People who think the 71 Kamen Rider is legitimately good probably are the same insufferable faggots who tell you Adam West Batman is the best Batman.
>>20846864We had a Kikaider reboot, it was just an anime instead.
>>20847116It's just lazy bait.
>>20847119>EvenYou mean 'especially.'Their whole fucking identity is built on shitting on the old series.
>>20847119The first 8 episodes of KR are literally the best thing the franchise has ever put out. The only thing that reaches that level of soul is maybe Kuuga
>>20847117I wasn't even born when ZO came out. If I have nostalgia for any time period it would be Kuuga's, but I acknowledge that Kuuga's effects are almost all fucking horrid and the show is shot like a midlevel soap. Not everything revolves around nostalgia.
>>20847113>It's 40 minutes long. It does enoughIt only does enough showing off practical effects, the choreography is lame and the story is duller than the average Kamen Rider episode no matter the era (which are less than 30 minutes long).
>>20847056Unironically Anno is too nationalist to get it right, Cyborg 009 at its core has the belief that no one's nation is better than anyone else and bad actors are stopped by everyone coming together and helping each other.
>>20847132>Not everything revolves around nostalgia.stop arguing with /krg/, any media made before 2000 is garbage to them and it's only nostalgia boomers who enjoy it, typical for zoomer brainwashing I'm afraid
>>20847086She almost looks like CG in the shots on the right
>>20847119>Even /krg/Why should i care about this specific group of people?
>>20847131>The first 8 episodes of KR are literally the best thing the franchise has ever put outMy favorite Kamen Rider thing is probably the Black manga, but as far as live-action stuff goes I think I'd agree. I like some of the later episodes too, but I was pretty disappointed with how the show developed. I still like Ichimonji though.
>>20847150Because they're the resident Rider general, dumbass? The one who tell newcomers what's what, what to watch and what to avoid?
Classic Kamen Rider stuff are good. I legitimately thought the boomers were just glorifying KR Black, until i actually watched it.
>>20847153/krg/ would have you believe Zero-One is bad and Saber is good. I'm fine, thanks.
>>20847153>The one who tell newcomers what's what, what to watch and what to avoid?You seriously let other people to tell you what to do and what to think? Are you 5 years old or something?
>>20847154Good thing we're not talking about Black. Black is considered the first truly good Rider for a reason compared to what went before.
>>20847154boomers are glorifying how dark and serious it was but then i watched Kotaro Minami got chased around by bikes all around town.it's amazingly fun kids show. epileptic too
>>20847096False equivalency since all Gundam is irredeemable garbage.
>>20847163I hope she will have the swirly booba
>>20846988>Battle Fever JThere's your Shin Sentai, bros.
>>20847165Kamen Rider has serious and funny mixed in. Black sometimes feel like a slice of life story, sometimes it went full tragic, especially at the ending. By its nature, Black was mainly a serious and dark story.
One has to wonder why Heisei and Reiwa Rider fans don't spend more time discussing their shows instead of bitching constantly about Showa and how it's wrongthink to watch it. You never see this phenomena with Godzilla, Sentai or Ultraman fans.
>>20847181basedbattle fever has a lot of interesting directions you can go in
>>20847163>>Wanted to respect the classic show>>Went full The first/next with the kaijin
>>20846929>Kamen Rider without CG is just boringI didn't say no CGI effects I just don't want to be bombarded by shitty CGI monster, constant particle effects, or utterly fake landscapes.
>>20847184Godzilla fans are hard boomer. They won't respect anything came after Final Wars
>>20847189You sure love that word.
>>20847184>You never see this phenomena with [...] Ultraman fansYou've not been around long enough
>>20847156That's one few things they'de be right about, except they call Saber shit too.
>>20847193>>20847156Aren't they shitting on the currently running series, Revice too?
>>20847192With Ultraman it's the opposite, the first three are considered the best to this day, especially in Japan.
>>20847184Ultraboomers are always bitching about how Heisei Ultraman is too toyetic.
>>20847184>One has to wonder why Heisei and Reiwa Rider fans don't spend more time discussing their showsBut that's what they do.>bitching constantly about Showa and how it's wrongthink to watch it. Literally only shitposters do it, the anti-Showafaggot's copypasting his posts in /krg/ here since he's getting shat on there.
This looks cool as fuck, I'll start watching KR.
>>20847186I don't mind it. If anything I think Rider 1 and 2 are a bit too conservative. I love the original designs, but I like how distinct The First/The Next Riders are even if the films are just so-so and a turd respectively.
>>20847118Anno really likes trains
>>20847186The problem with Rider is that Ishinomori envisioned Rider as another kaijin who happen to fight for human freedom but still was as monstrous as his enemies. That effect is kinda lost when Rider has a cool design and his enemies are ugly monsters despite both were made by the same organization. Ishinomori himself was aware of this so he tried to make Rider more monstrous in later incarnations like Black (manga) and Shin. Basically there are two routes. Either make Rider into a monster or make the enemies into Rider-lite. No way Anno was going to turn his childhood hero into a deformed mutant
>>20847181I think there was a Gainax founding member that really was into Sun Vulcan/Battle Fever J, considering Otaku no Video and Dai Nippon Teikoku. Probably he made Anno to watch those shows but Anno doesn't seem to be really into sentai as he's into Rider and Ultraman
>>20846450You VILL be come ze bugz.
>>20847134Also the entire cast would be Japanese on blackface, brownface and whiteface. The problem is they make a Hollywood adaptation, then Joe would be an all-American boy and the cyborgs would work with the US army
>>20847254>Anno doesn't seem to be really into sentai as he's into Rider and UltramanHe's super into Sentai, but he's more super into KR and Ultraman.
>>20847254Anno has been vocal about continuing to watch Sentai into the Heisei era, which can't be said for Rider or Ultraman AFAIK, even if they were more influential on his childhood. He famously watched Carranger after Eva and it helped him cope with his depression. He was also watching Hurricanger weekly as shown in an autobiographical manga by his wife about their marriage. He was even watching as recently as Kyoryuger and ToQger according him at an event he was interviewed at.
>>20846450I...WILL be happy....
>>20847249>The problem with Rider is that Ishinomori envisioned Rider as another kaijin who happen to fight for human freedom but still was as monstrous as his enemies.So Toei get it right by making the villains Rider too.
>>20845879Uh. Kamen Rider suit itself is the worst part of the trailer because it doesn't fit with everything else.the THE FIRST suit would have worked much better
>>20845879I don't know anything about Kamen Rider but this looks cool, mostly because it's pretty fucking /fa/
>>20847198They're correct. Though the entire attitude of the series changed as much as the toy shilling. I still enjoy recent Ultra shows, though, which I can't say for KR.
>>20846296I actually liked that a lot: imples the usual transformation still happens, but not showing it they keep a pseudo-realistic style>>20847347kinda, the problem is that they went at it on the reverse: Kamen Rider should be basically "Rebel Good Kaijin vs Regular Evil Kaijin" while in modern riders it's more "Regular Good Rider vs Rebel Evil Riders"which is arguably one of the reason Revice is good, he's (initially)shown being, for all intent and purposes, an artificial "Good Deadman" fighting the regular Evil Deadmans
>>20847295https://twitter.com/anno_moyoco/status/478440677001277440Moyoco even drawing him having discussion with kids about Toqger
>>20847295Anno is a Faiz fan and even sneaked in the name "Smart Brain" as a company in Shin Godzilla. Dunno about newer Rider series though.
>>20847463Also, the substance the components of the substance that neutralize Godzilla included Photon Blood and "Delta-333" and "Orphelin".
>>20847024Does trailer have any interesting choreography though? Action doesn't look that impressive and Anno's previous attempt at toku action with Cutie Honey was just trash.
>>20845879I don't get why everyone is shitting their pants.It looks exactly like The First, which was released 15 years ago (meaning today it looks like a youtube fanfilm).Designs seem decent, but visually it's very cheap-looking, moreso than Shin Godzilla. If people just want an updated version of the first OG series episodes, that's fine, but I expected more from Shirakura's "it's gonna be our The Dark Knight!" claims than a simple retread of everything they've already done before.
>>20847509Shin Godzilla only looked cheap towards the end desu. I still laugh when they send the trains down the line and they fly up like straight spaghetti.
>>20847509>It looks exactly like The FirstThe cinematography is much better than The First's, judging from what little we've seen.
>>20847295Sentai is still recognizable while rider is a weird fusion between metal hero and anime tropes. I wouldn't be surprised Anno is basically Narutaki. His Kamen Rider movie look like the kind of movie that Narutaki would direct. And Ultraman piss off purists like Anno by whoring himself to Bandai. Sentai has been toyetic since the 80s and Anno doesn't have that borderline religious worship toward sentai like he does to Ultraman so he can be more open.>>20847425As expected from the master. Anno fucking loves trains
>>20847379>Revice is goodIt isn't, wasted potential all around.
>>20847544>Sentai is still recognizablePfffft hahahaha.
>>20847564>red ranger looks fine although I'm not a fan of the topknot/cog on the head. But I get the reference. >Blue ranger is fucking Sonic 06 tier. I raff>Someone give the pink ranger a bunch of sandwiches>yellow is not terrible but those shoulder spikes need to go back to the koopa kingdom>I get the black cat reference but fuck me if I can only see that shitty cat from Persona 5 telling me to go to sleep after a single fucking lockpick.
>>20845879that hair is stupid looking.
>>20847509It feels like it's actually trying to build a narrative out of the original premise, while the original series was entirely episodic. So, there will be something new there, even if it's trying to be faithful rather than some complete reimagination.In comparison, The First didn't even really try to do that, quickly deviating the focus from loss of humanity or Shocker's overall goals to a love triangle between the Riders and Ruriko, and a hospital drama between the two monsters that had focus.
>>20847268I mean Joe is supposed to be biracial and a key part of why he was a deliquent growing up was because of being bullied for being half-white. Something even most adaptations leave out because they don't want to touch the subject.
>>20847611I think that only drove him to delinquency in the 1979 series, and he ended up at Kurihama after getting in a fight trying to protect another biracial kid. But the 68 and 01 series basically act like he's fully Japanese despite having brown hair and blue eyes and having the name Joe spelled -oe and not -ou
>>20847617>I think that only drove him to delinquency in the 1979 seriesAnd the manga, I forgot
>>20847611>>20847617In a Hollywood version, Joe would be full white or at best half-Asian but played by a white actor
>>20847622Maybe 10 years ago. These days even Snake Eyes from G.I. Joe was made Asian.
>>20847622Oh I'm aware, I'm just saying that the manga had subjects in it that even today Japan doesn't like talking about and I think if Anno did an adaptation he wouldn't try to touch it either
>>20847509I trust the plan.
>>20847123He's talking about the movie Kikaider Reboot, anon. It even had a crossover episode with Kamen Rider Gaim.
>>20847165Black starts dark and dramatic and overall its plot mostly keeps that tone, but the actual episodic content rapidly turns into showa silliness where Kotaro runs around town blaming Golgom for every minor disturbance in his life and always being correct. The plots go from something like "a cult in a remote japanese town caused by golgom" to "golgom tries to steal all the fish at the fish market to feed their monsters" or "kotaro fights a monster on top of a big clock in an episode about time travelling samurai", or the haunted house episode. The ratio of plot to MOTW is incredibly low so the grand majority of the show is goofy as hell.
>>20847829"someone ate all my delicious hotpockets. It must have been Golgom!"
>>20847741I don't remember this movie at all
>>20847829Do you have the webm with the candy on the ground and he suddenly starts running? Or the one with the bicycle coming into the room?
>>20847987That's sad. It's not amazing but I enjoyed it. It even got an official English release with a limited theatrical showing in Hawaii and California.
>>20847990>Do you have the webm with the candy on the ground and he suddenly starts running?
>>20847829Black was a victim of its own success: when it started getting good ratings they decided to extend it to the max with the silly "Random Crap + MOTW" stuff.
>>20847131That shit didn't get decent until Ichimonji showed up, then it went to shit again after Hongo returned.
>>20847829Allegedelly Ishinomori was involved with Black's early episodes, or at least the most involved that he was with a Rider series since pre-retool Ichigo. The production had issues like the main writer leaving after episode 10 and Toei having a feud with Nobuhiko's actor. Arguably he had a bigger role but at the end Shadow Moon never take off his mask and got a VA.At least for me the most noticeable change was that Golgom was pretty much in control during the early episodes. Politicians, businessmen, celebrities, etc worked directly or indirectly for Golgom like an Illuminati type of secret society but after the early episodes, Golgom turn into typical toku villains completely clueless about human society. I think Metalder, from around the same time, did it better with the Neros Empire
>>20847564To be fair, that's the 46th sentai from a franchise that has been running almost uninterrumpted since 1975. Also DonBrothers is the result of several years of poor ratings, and even worse, poor toys sales. At this point Toei has nothing to lose. It doesn't count as a gotcha
>>20848159nice bait m8
>>20847509Because it has completely different creative team helmed by one of the most renown current creators who's shown his appreciation and understanding of the genre multiple times?
>>20847504Cutie Honey was cheap as fuck. I mean really cheap. By comparison Shin looks like a mainstream production but filmed in Anno's indie pseudo-documentary style. That's how we got here in the first place. Anno was close to direct the Devilman live action and fulfill his destiny but he was rejected because he didn't have experience with big budget projects. Then the Devilman movie was one of the worst movies ever made and Anno lost his shit so badly that he decided to make the Rebuilds to enter into the mainstream
>>20847504iirc Anno Honey was the animated OVA, the live action tv was somebody else, maybe sakamoto?
>>20848331>>20848334>>20847504I liked it.
>>20848362yeah I mostly liked TV Toku Honey, as much as I can respect the issues people might havebut I'm pretty sure Anno has literally nothing to do with it
>>20847249Ishinomori didn't create Shin, his son didAnd while he believed Shin captured the "essence" of Kamen Rider, nothing in Ishinomori's actual notes and sketches suggested he wanted the protagonist to be an actual monster, in fact the original ideas were more akin to his Skull Man designs and the grasshopper motif was used to represent that he was a hero that was one with nature
>>20847152>My favorite Kamen Rider thing is probably the Black mangaBased
I wonder if Ichimonji will initially have a villainous role like in The First?
>>20846450I dunno bros, they seem like cool guys. What's wrong with making people happy?
>>20848334Anno Honey was a movie plus an OVA
>>20848334Anno directed the live action Cutie Honey and was chief director for the Re:Cutie Honey OVA, though other people directed the individual episodes.
Are boomers ready to admit The First and The Next were excellent modernizations of their hokey 70's kids shows and were unfairly treated because it offended their nostalgia?
>>20848375Are you dense? The movie has Anno stapled all over it.
>>20848506Hard to say. So far they've aboided any Rider vs Rider scene in the trailers.
>>20847133>story is duller than usualHell no, it’s more consistent and entertaining than any Showa story besides Black and Riderman's arc
>>20847156>Zero-One is bad and Saber is goodAnd they would be right
>>20847379>which is arguably one of the reason Revice is good, he's (initially)shown being, for all intent and purposes, an artificial "Good Deadman" fighting the regular Evil DeadmansIkki is not a Deadman and neither is Vice, that’s not how the show’s rules work
>>20847984That rider symbol is so edgy I love it
>>20847379That's not necessarily how it goes, the rule is that "Kamen Rider receives his power from evil, it's the fact that he chooses to use his powers for good that sets him apart."
>>20847086anno wants to recreate rei
>>20848322Being a fan =/= being good at making it.Anno's Cutie Honey sucked hard and felt a toku parody at best.
>>20848828>Are boomers ready to admit The First and The Next were excellent modernizations of their hokey 70's kids showsThat was Kuuga-Blade stretch of the shows.The First/The Next failed both as modernizations and as their own things.
>>20849043>It's a parody!!>It's a deconstruction!!!!How to spot an american fake fan.
>>20848851Guess that's a no to Shocker Riders then. Or maybe they will be in a potential sequel
>>20849184they're already cramming in too much already, we didn't even need Ichimonji.
>>20849104A bad fanfilm is still a bad fanfilm no matter what you call it.
>>20849201Shin Ultraman adapted all of the original season, with most of that being hidden pre-release, with most of the marketing just showing two random monsters which aren't even actually very important in the actual movie.We don't really know what's the goal of this movie at this point, but it actually seems more focused on the whole Rider and Shocker conflict rather than derailing into personal side-stories like The First/The Next.>>20849184Shocker Riders either will be a movie climax thing, so they'd avoid spoilers for now (although like in the tv show, where they appear after Rider 2 rather than him being one of them) or sequel material, yeah.
>>20849209You are being disingenuous, par for the course annohater.
>>20846988wonder what Shin Thunderbirds would be like
>>20849332There's one already.
>>20849347that is more of a re-edit of the original Gerry Anderson episodes into a film rather than new content
>>20849375What about the CG show.
>The overall view of the world is somehow connected to "Shin Godzilla". Due to copyright management, it is difficult to connect them clearly, so I feel like casting the title "Shin", the word "giant unknown creature", or Yutaka Takenouchi to a government manSo what'll be the connection? Shocker used samples of Goji to create their cyborgs?
>>20849385decent revival I thought but I only saw one or two episodes so I can't comment on the series overall quality
>>20847060she was a constant throughout the manga
>>20849388Shin Gorenger will be about a team of special ops from the government hunting down terrorists <whavtever name> Kamen Rider.These terrorists are destroying valuable research bases that is run by the government(s) super AI with the help of some extraterrestrial friends from space.
>>20849397Yeah but I figure it'd be something like that, an entirely puppeteer'd show would be quite a task nowadays.
>>20849445you could probably do a thing like in UFO were all the vehicles are puppets but the interiors are all played by real actors
>>20849388They probably could tie Shocker/Great Leader to one of Ultraman's aliens, like Mefilas.
>>20849455That'd be neat yeah but at that point just do Shin UFO.
>>20849388So Shin Kamen Rider will be set in modern day?
>>20849495That comment is about Shin Ultraman, not Shin Kamen Rider. He's just assuming it will extend to that.No cellphones in the trailer, but some of the backgrounds did look rather modern, although they might be going for some kind of retro-future aesthetic.
>>20846988surprised that the movie list missed 2001 a space odyssey and Be Invoked
>>20849520Probably because Ideon is in the series list.
>>20848828No, because they're ass.
>>20848306>he fell for the muh first 13 meme
Do people still didn't get over "fans are the ones who TRULY get it and should be the one in charge!" phase?How many more franchise corpses you need to realize this isn't true?At least Anno's only gonna do his thing and (hopefully) move on to doing something new.
>>20849043>Anno's Cutie Honey sucked hard and felt a toku parody at best.You just don't have a heart
>>20849636The Live (2007) had a heart.Anno's fanfilm didn't.
I just want to say The First and The Next really fucking sucked.
>>20847075case in point. absolutely ugly as fuck
>>20847564>hating on based DonBrosngmi
>>20849630This is way too ESL for me to understand, are you saying fans should or shouldn't be in charge of franchise projects?
>>20849713It's good precisely because it's not like Sentai.
>>20847564Donbrothers is probably the most returned to form sentai of this era, unlike Ryusoulger.
>>20849736Donbrothers is good because it more sentai-like. It gives you expectation and speculation. " New villain appeared. What the fuck is he? What is his motivation?", Donbrothers gives you questions like that, keeps things mysterious and attractive. There are also a large amount of drama in Donbrothers, more akin to Showa-Early Heisei Sentai.
>>20845879Can't believe it took 31 years but I'm excited nonetheless
>>20848956Not the previous anon but come on.same shitty reaction to things.Same short hair.same emotionless reactions/attitude.mark my words she will be artificial in this version too.
>>20850882Just admit you haven't seen enough anime/movies, it's okay we've all been there.
>>20850911as I told you retard I'm not the same anon you speak to before.>Just admit you haven't seen enough anime/movies.way more than you but go on..
>>20848425Shin's organic design fits with what Ishinomori was doing lately with Rider, see the Black manga, and the Shin kanji is written as "true". Also reminder that Rider was conceived as a kids show, a superhero for children. He had to be appealing to children. The idea that Rider is a monster and an outcast have been there since the beginning. Did Ishinomori originally want Rider to be a kaijin? Thats tricky but it seems he really wanted to try on his latter years. About his son, that sound like Japanese nepotism and Ishinomori having even more control over Shin. Didn't Ishinomori intend his son to finish Cyborg 009?
>>20848828They were boring as sin, so no.
>>20850882>getting a lot of evangelion vibe from this
>>20851450The First was ruined by a love triangle plot that seems written for 14 year old girls. Nobody liked The Next.
>>20850954looking it up real quick (and I can't vouch for how valid it is since it's on the KR wiki) Ishinomori's son was the one who suggested Kamen Rider be grasshopper themed and only wrote Shin along with someone else. He also played a side character on Black RX so it seemed like he was pretty involved in his dad's work anyway
>>20851450I mean the suits are cool but god damn the movie plots were hot garbage.
>>20850882Anno really likes that kind of close up angle in his live action stuff huh
>>20852075Watch more movies.
>>20852082Well i'm talking about Anno's, not movies made by people other than Anno.
>>20852084I like how the mask basically symbolizes the loss of identity. Join Shocker and you will become a faceless drone for them to control. But again for them it's true happiness as Shocker puts it.
>>20852084Simple and clean with a practical weapon. I like it.
>>20847504Cutie Honey was a manga-anime adaptation, so a lot of the fights were intentionally full of still frames to replicate that style of action that was much more popular back in the day. Anno is actually a pretty good action director - at the very least he can storyboard it very well since he's an excellent artist and draftsman - so you can tell when a fight looks janky on purpose or not with him.
>>20852082(YOU) Anno copied his "innovative" direction style from Ultraseven , same close-ups, narrative conventions and more. You're the one who needs to watch more movies and series.>>20852088
>>20852181>from UltrasevenFrom Akio Jissoji, who did a lot more than Ultraseven.
>>20852181>>20852290If it's so easy, why aren't more directors doing it?
>>20852130>Cutie Honey was a manga-anime adaptation, so a lot of the fights were intentionally full of still frames to replicate that style of actionThis is why slow motion is used in comic book movies as well, people think it's dumb but it's used to emphasize certain key scenes that you'd be able to appreciate with full detail on a magazine, it's so obvious yet a lot of people feel the need to point it out every time because they "noticed" it happened.
>>20852084Nice to see the berets again.
>>20852181Who said it's innovative? Anno is very open about his inspirations, stop being dishonest.
>>20852443Different directors have their own preferences for shot composition?
Should I watch the 71 Rider or is it really as bad as /krg/ says?
>>20852181>>20852290Don't forget Kihachi Okamoto. There was a video on youtube, currently erased, where Anno and Okamoto had a meeting and Anno admited Okamoto was his favorite director. There are a lot of Okamoto's movies on >>20846988
>>20851450Movie's are still boring as fuck and try too hard to force in half-baked genre plots no one cares about. Not sure what you think this proved.
has anyone watched shin ultraman yet?are all of these movies just going to be original movie+modern japanese bureaucracy
>>20853018Well right off the bat with Shin Godzilla they aren't that so I think we are good.
>>20847086She looks like she will be remodeled and made to fight Kamen Rider.
>>20853184>>20847086I think he might be fusing Ruriko with that woman who appears in the Shocker Rider arc near the ending, who was from the Anti-Shocker Alliance (their leader turns out to work for Shocker though).
What boggles me is there seems to be no Taki equivalent so far. Was Anno simply not a fan of him?
>>20847163>What seems to be a bit of skin poking out underneath>The front section is cast in shadowlips confirmed? Or is it going to be exposed cyborg bits?
>>20848031To be fair, a fucking car explodes from under the ground not long after.
>>20853310There are some men in suits behind Ruriko in one of the trailer shots. He could be one of those if they're characters rather than just background props. Notably one of them has an open blazer, which might suggest they aren't just background people.
>>20848031It's funnier considering it's not from Black but RX. Kotaro was still suffering of PTSD from the last season
>>20853924it's funny because he's really one of the few monster of the week heroes to wake the fuck up enough to realize that probably when some crazy shit happens every week it's probably the bad guys
>>20852524/krg/ is full of retards who have never seen anything but neo-heisei, it's a fine show
>>20845879Looking forward to it
>>20847249I also like kaijin Rider's but I'm pretty sure that's a concept Ishinomori had in mind but didn't overlap other ideas behind kamen rider. In both the manga and 1971 show it's left quite ambiguous on how much of the kamen rider is a cyborg, a normal hero or a heroic kaijin.
>>20857125Shin The Great Battle
>>20858814Fuck off tourist.
>>20847086Minami Hamabe makes me feel things
>>20859351She can stare at me all day long
>>20857125I hope Anno makes a new IP after this. I know doing all 3 of your most beloved childhood heroes must be great but still.
>>20859714No. He will keep making new movies from properties that he holds dearly to him because he's nostalgic about it while simultaneously tell you that you should grow up.I'm not complaining though. I have become a consumer and I must consume the next movie he puts out.
>>20845879Looks unbearably pretentious.
>>20859779based on what? The way he's standing? lmao
>>20859784oh i dunno maybe the lifeless color palette, dead eyed expressions on every face and generic minimalistic pretentious soundtrack?? lmao
>>20859787I don't get it.
>>20859807and that's why this movie appeals to you
>>20859744You sound like an old fat greasy faggot who needs to grow up.>>20859787You sound like a young underage retarded soi infused midwit zoomer who also needs to grow up.
>>20859809Not really, I haven't watched any toku stuff in a long time. Maybe later down the line when I feel like it, I'll give it a chance.
>>20859817did you pull those words from reddit
Gee, guys. Stop being excited for this movie I don't like. It's not cinema. Come and watch Minions with me, the true cinema experience
>>20846988a Shin Golden Bat movie would be pretty bitching, especially if they lean on the fact that Golden Bat is arguably one of if not the oldest proper Superheroalso looking at that list, it seems that while Goranger and JAQK weren't notable influences, it does list Battle Fever J, Denjiman, Sun Vulcan, and Dynaman, so him doing something Super Sentai related doesn't feel impossible, though if anything I figure it'd be something totally new rather than a remake of a specific entry in the franchise
>>20859829Only if you buy the popcorn.
>>20859744Most nerds are huge hypocrites especially anno.
>>20859787>i went to film school once!
>>20859865More like>I browse /tv/ so I know about movies!
>>20859867>I browse /tv/ so I know about movies!>I didn't go to film school, i went to /film/
>>20859787you're a faggot
>>20859820I dont know what posts on reddit look like because I don't go there so you're going to have to explain to me how calling you a faggot was a reddit post.
>>20859787Well you're not wrong. But this is Anno, so it's business as usual for him.
>>20859839>a Shin Golden Bat movie would be pretty bitching, especially if they lean on the fact that Golden Bat is arguably one of if not the oldest proper SuperheroGolden Bat dates back to 1931. Wait another nine years, because "this character is literally 100 years old" will make his "first superhero" status hit all the harder for those just learning of the guy.
>>20859787>>20860006>calling any of that pretentiousyou're both retarded
>>20860594It's just a generic insult, annohaters don't have the mental faculties to come up with proper arguments as to why they despise the man so much.
>>20859787>I- I don't like the colors, it's pretentious shitbruh, you ok?
I hope Bibleman will be the first to be worked on if the Shin franchise goes international.
>>20860003sounds very reddit
>>20860604Weak fanboy cope. They literally laid out exactly what they disliked about it.
>>20861118>TheyShut up samefag.
>>20859787>Never seen kamen rider before.
>>20859787Eh, compare Rider 2's suit here with The First's version. Anno seems much more willing to actually stick with the original colors rather than using Rider 1's original colors as an excuse to make everything more muted.
How would like the shin shocker riders to look?
>>20862700Considering how Rider 1 and 2 look, it seems like they'd keep designs mostly identical to theirs, but with the Shocker Rider colors. Although maybe they'd be more mechanical looking so they could convincingly pull the micro-missile launchers, built-in blades and maybe the concept-art only elemental attacks.
>>20863000maybe something more chomp-y like MP Evas?
>>20845879welcome to Kamen Rider The Diner. what would you like to order?
>>20864759Torn between the Kuuga curry and the Ryuuki pasta with mussels.
>>20864759I want to eat this but only on a moving train
>>20859744Rich, famous and esteemed creator =! shut-in NEET
>>20864759do you get to keep the mug?
>>20866777don't know but I would want the Ika Devil one