Episode 8 Soon Edition>Anime Trailershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6gATcNgk9shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljulqkkw6Ikhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQzgxn-J2VAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZySaJkVkyc>New Anime Websitehttps://muv-luv-alternative-anime.com/>Project Mikhail Trailershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWW24Dbxh-Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apm55Z_AKek>New Project Mikhail Websitehttps://www.project-mikhail.com/en/>Project Immortal Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFmg_n_pONU>Two new CGs and one updated one from TDA 04https://twinfinite.net/2020/09/muv-luv-tda-images-alternative-anime-site/>Asset Archivehttps://muv-luv.naruhodo.workers.dev/0:/>TDA 00-03 now on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/bundle/18646/MuvLuv_Unlimited__The_Day_After_ULTIMATE_COLLECTION/>Muv-Luv Alternative Manga vol 1-4, 5-8 & 8-12 now on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1501130/MuvLuv_Alternative_Manga_Super_Bundle_1/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1616080/MuvLuv_Alternative_Manga_Super_Bundle_2/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1811020/MuvLuv_Alternative_Manga_Super_Bundle_3/Previous Thread: >>20393379
>>20406188I'M STILL IN A DREAAAAAM
Happy birthday Beatrix!
>Chicken DiversOkay this was awesome, Orbital Drops will never cease to be the coolest shit ever. I was hoping we'd get more of that. and this delivered. >80% casualty rateI've said this before, but I truly believe the writers have no sense of scale. With 80% loss rates you wouldn't be able to sustain a war for a year, let alone decades. I get that it's meant to drive home how badly the BETA are kicking our asses, but even something like 20% would already be considered massive losses. To put it into perspective, WW1 had something like 15% losses, and that's pretty much the deadliest war in history>Post-credits sceneDamn...
>>20406300its not THAT insanely unrealistic. in WW1 the world population was around 2billion ish and that war lasted for 4 yearsthe war against the BETA has lasted for 30, and the world population at the time of it starting had to have been around 6billion because of what would have happened to Extraverse with the causality stuff. BETA war is also mostly defensive on humanity's end so most combat where they lose a whole bunch of people aren't large scale offensives like operation 21st. and by the time of Alternative all the worlds militaries are so strapped for troops that they're conscripting 16 year old girls to go and fight
>>20406300Orbital divers only operate during hive infiltrations and those are hardly a common occurrence.
>InheritanceShorter than I expected, but a nice conclusion to the "Mentor Trilogy" I guess>Constantly shitting on "muh americans">Calling sacrifices meaningless>Sagiri apologistThe wrong sister died>YayoiI'm guessing she totally knew about the Valkyries, and that's why she was so adamant about the accident cover story. Still, they could have picked a less shitty cover story than "training accidents", even just "her unit was pulled into the operation and got shot down in a carrier" or something would be better than the accident excuse. Hard to feel for her when all three of her sisters became frontline pilots and she's.... a politician. The wrong sister died. In fact, didn't Sagiri execute most of the politicians in the capital? How did she survive? Was she too far down the hierarchy, or was she a collaborator? The wrong sister died>2003Nice, is this the closest we get to a MLA sequel? She calls her unit "Lightnings", is that a squad name or are they flying F-35s? They went by so fast I couldn't get a good look at their TSFs>>20406368>>20406384I guess that's true, although back when we were given the "beta adapt to strategies over 19 days" lecture they also mentioned similar figures for hive culling operations, so it's still a bit iffy. Remind me, what were the previous two ops the guy from Chicken Divers dropped in? I was under the impression that there had never been a successful hive infiltration, with the closest one being the volks hive where they only got halfway in. I guess on his previous drops they sounded the retreat before he even got in? That must suck
>>20406394>Remind me, what were the previous two ops the guy from Chicken Divers dropped in?Bhopal hive infiltration for Alternative 3 was what '94?
>>20406394Yayoi's a bureaucrat, not a politician. The whole iron triangle thing.
>>20406394> In fact, didn't Sagiri execute most of the politicians in the capital? How did she survive? Was she too far down the hierarchy, or was she a collaborator? Glowie under Sakon, iirc.> LightningsUnit name; they're all using F-15Js (Type-89 Kagerous)>2003> Operation SledgehammerNow go read issues 24, 26, 27 and 38 of TSFIA here: https://muvluv.fandom.com/wiki/Tactical_Surface_Fighters_In_Action_(TSFIA)You're in for a treat. Come to think of it, read the rest of the TL'd ones there too afterwards.
>>20406450>TSFIAHoly shit that's a lot of reading material
>>20406469Yep.They all got TL'd here on /m/ too.Based TSFIA-anon.
>>20406481Well don't just leave us hanging.
>>20406500I think he meant they got translated on /m/ and the translations got put on the wiki that he linked earlier
>>20406228>>20406276>>20406439Happy birthday to my wife Beato!
>>20406509This. That wiki started out barebones before /m/ oldfags came across it back in the day. Some of them might still be around. Also, last news the translator's on army duty or suchlike, wonder if he's come back.
>>20406542>my wife Beato!If she truly was your wife, you'd understand what pic related refences.
>>20406566>oldfags>back in the dayJesus fucking christ it's actually been 10 years since the original amaterasu fan TL dropped where did all that time go and why are you reminding me of this holy fuck
>>20406652anon, MLA is 20 years old. It's odler than most posters in this board
>>20406662>anon, MLA is 20 years old15. KimiNozo is 20. But if ML had had no delays it would be 20 next year.
>>20406394The epilogue scene for Inheritance is the Cheorwon Hive operation iirc, the story for that is told in a couple of the TSFIA shorts all of the surviving Valkyries are present at that battle
>>20406481Speaking of that, do we have the raw text for the untranslated ones? I'm dying for more Euro Front content, so I'll probably read the untranslated ones with a machine TL if they're never gonna get real translations
I don't suppose an anon can hook me up with the patch for altered fable 75% and an iso?I'm interested in the uncensored content.
>>20406855read the OPyou want the 20th anniversary box version of Altered Fable unless you want to crash more than windows ME
>>20406855An uncensor patch doesn't exist for the Steam version so you'll have to make do with the original. Like >>20406938 said, the 20th anniversary version has compatability updates so it works on Windows 10, so get that. It should be in the assets archive in the OP.
>>20406566I'm not an oldfag and I hate you all for not shitposting about the anime more so I can enjoy the schadenfraude without having to waste 5 hours of my life or listen to the new seiyuu.
Will pic related show up?
>>20405219>"Abandoned One's Revenge">"Heartless One's Strike Back"What even is going on in this shit? This is so bad.
>>20407112what is this and who is this?
>>20407215im not exactly sure, but a rough guess would be Yokohama reactor scene? looks like a tank class and a tsf behind it...in the rain? fuck i have no clue
>>20407215Its one of the valkyries getting destroyed by sagiri during the coup.
>>20407259I think it was komaki, but its a manga add on where the valkyries fight komaki and some rebels.
Actually I guess it's probably the other one after all, but anyways one of those girls that never had any screentime.
>>20406772All raw text were taken from the TSFIA spread pics as far as I know.
>>20407331>>20407259>>20407272Takahara also shows up in Alternative. But in Chronicles (on the far right of this pic)
>>20407384Oh, that's cu->Soldiers on the backgroundDelet
>>20407391The bargain bin Sou Miyata version is basically entirely unidentifiable so there's not much use posting it. Even Tae is only recognizable by the hair ornament and Jupiter class chest armament.The tl;dr is that Akane's classmates from Extra are the other members of A01 that the main cast replaces during the last weeks of December which you never see from Takeru's perspective. Really given that they showed the Valkyries in the anime already they should have been there too.
>>20407420Tae isn't as busty as Kashiwagi though, isn't she?
>>20407426Tae is fucking huge.
>>20407434>>20407455once again proving that all that Sagiri achieved was depriving Japan of vital resources
>>20407464Nah blame XM3 trials for that one.
>>20407466How are the XM3 trials, which happened after Sagiri's coup, related to the loss of valuable chest artillery?
>>20407473It's been ages so I had to remind myself, but Takahara gets killed in the coup, Tsukiji gets killed during XM3, and Asakura is injured. I am pretty sure the losses from the XM3 trial are mentioned in the game because of how recent they are when Takeru joins them but I can't remember for sure if they talk about losing a member from the coup a few days earlier or not.
>>20407488I think they do mention it, when Isumi is mentioning how the unit has high casualty rates. One has to wonder how shit of a pilot she was to get killed in an attack she herself caused though...
Anime is shit but at least Tama is halfway decent, which makes it 50% more tolerable than it should be so I'm feeling torn between shitting on it and praising it.
Do we ever find out what happens to 207th in unlimiteds ending? Or is "they're ground down during the counter attack to reclaim Asia" all we get?
>>20406300> orbital dropsI would suggest reading Last Divers on youtube, but that one has TDA spoilers, so don't read it until then.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tX8p3bAVKw>Post-credits sceneThere was no fourth time.
>>20407625In TDA it's revealed everyone except Takeru and Meiya (who was whisked away to replace her sister as the Shogun) died in Operation Iceberg.
>>20407626I second that you really need to read Last Divers because there's a small but crucial piece of information in TDA that only makes sense if you've read Last Divers. Why the fuck they didn't bundle it in with TDA is anyone's guess.
>>20407630So I should read TDA before alt? Is the shirogane takeru of alt the one from extra or is it more like he's "a shirogane takeru with memories of extra and unlimited"? I need to prepare, Mr bones wild ride is killing me inside - probably read extra again to protect their smiles one more time...
>>20407651No. Read it after Alt. You need Alt to understand a lot of TDA, as its full of callbacks to Alt in characters and story. Alt is the pinnacle and it's a ride worth taking.
I think the worst thing about the new game is that the devs admitted that making enemies so durable was stupid but did it because it was the only way to make grinding for better equipment valuable.
>>20407434>>20407455Tae is a slut
>>20407707That game was fucked since the design stage, literally still has retarded mobage mechanics in it even though they deleted the phone version like a year ago. Almost like they haven't given up on launching a phone version down the line
Alright, Total Eclipse downloaded. What am I in for?
>>20407527laying it on a little thick but i still keked
>>20407797anime? why bother.
>>20407808because I want to see animated TSFs and apprently this has the Su- line, which is my favorite aircraft family
>>20407813Expect meandering, whole episodes where nothing happens and Top Tsun. Also it just ending with no resolution whatsoever.
>>20407808God help you then with the game which does a lot of the same content worse than the anime.
>>20407854well, I just watched the first episode and it seems better than current shit like Kyoukai Senki so far. It does feel like they were trying to cram the entirety of Confessions into one episode for the main squad's backstories though... at least the TSFs are cool, they're like Gekishits doing Takemikazuchi cosplay. By the color schemes I'm guessing everyone in the squad is from a noble house /Imperial Guard, not just the MC? Anyone got the color hierarchy chart? I can't remember if Yellow was higher than red
Also you don't even get the benefit of the cool TSF sprites because it's literally just cardboard cutouts of the anime CGI. Even the blood decals are exactly the same.
>>20407859Taste the rainbow. Nips discriminating against green because it doesn't exist.
>>20407857Nah I read the game you're just full of shit
>>20407864Wonder how they feel about the standard UN color scheme being blue. Seems like main girl is decently high up, at least higher up than the three idiots, so I expect them to be pretty competent. The Shogun died during the first BETA attack on Japan right? Did the Kobouin family know that they were next in line to the throne or was the decision made after the old Shogun died? I always assumed they knew at least since before Meiya and Yuuhi were born, since Meiya was raised since birth to be the body double. Unless at first it was just a "double for the head of the family" gig and it got upgraded afterwards
>>20407866So how the fuck did you prefer Kamchatka with a 500% increase in faceless plotting communists and a decrease of everything else aside from rubbing your penis to the thought of telling people "play the game lol"
are there pictures of the gripen or viggen somewhere? I looked in the codex but they weren't visible there; I'm guessing they're built of the F-16? in a rare missed bit of autism the swedish equivalent of the F-16 would really be the draken not the viggen but whatever
>>20408130Gripen looks like Typhoon and Raphael.
>>20406228I wish Murder Mommy had more Rule 34 to be honest, its a shame I find very little on all the major sites
>>20408130https://muvluv.fandom.com/wiki/JAS-39_GripenGripen yes, Viggen no. And since the Draken was built using the Mirage III 1st-generation TSF as a base, which itself came from the F-5 Freedom Fighter TSF, the Viggen and Gripen have no direct TSF derivatives, but in the Gripen's case, because Sweden's strategic design goals are largely the same as the European Union's, their TSF ends up having a lot of similarity to the Typhoon and Rafale anyways. Empire of Japan also had some tech deals with them since the Europeans' efforts in preparing for the recapture of their continent provides counter-pressure against American Alt. V shilling and both of them have vested interests in developing 3G TSF technology, so the Shiranui and the European 3G TSFs are also like very, very distant relatives.
>>20408187>https://muvluv.fandom.com/wiki/JAS-39_Gripen>>used by the KINGDOM of sweden.neat I had missed that sweden had returned to a monarchy.
Do y'all think TSFs will be decommissioned after the war is over? At first I thought they could be useful in reconstruction efforts but the fact that only eishis can effectively pilot them and they carry too much security ricks kind of make it less likely.
>>20408198But Sweden is a monarchy. Its official name is Kingdom of Sweden.
>>20408198Anon. Sweden is a Constitutional Monarchy in real life. Next time Google it before posting.
>>20408205anon, it takes less than a year to train an eishi from scratch. And the war extends many decades into the future, IIRC some material has future TSFs with stuff like 8th gen TSFs that look like they came out of Linebarrels of Iron
>>20408286God the unused future TSF designs are so fucking cool, but my favorite side material thing is the BETA-TSF, it just ticks all the right boxes for me, biological horror is one of the reasons i like the spacebugs in the first place. I don't have a HD picture of it to showcase so if anyone could share the scan i would appreciate it
>>20408286>Linebarrels of Ironwtf battler?
>>20408293Its both cliched and all around awful idea
>>20408304umineko character wearing white suit and red shirt lol
>>20408305The BETA-TSF was not created by the BETA, it was man made, Bydo Style
>>20408309Here's why I'm against the idea of bio-mechs in general (especially imitations of enemy lifeforms)+) It violates the sanctify of life: flesh should belong to living beings, period. Soldier-slave biological machines are all kind of morally wrong.+) It's kind of- sorry, VERY disgusting. Period.+) Distrust against xeno-looing objects. I don't think humans would have a very kind opinion on them, not during the war, and especially not after.+) There's no good enough reason to create xenomechs if you can hold out on normal resources
>>20408332do you realize what this franchise is about?
>>20408332I wont question your austism, because everyone in this thread is also a bit of that. But the BETA mecha were jsut straight up terror weapons for using against other people, being horrible and disgusting was the entire point. Also, i like disgusting organic machinery, there is a reason i brought the Bydo into the discussion, its my favorite aesthetic
>>20408345Yes i do. And I think bio-synthetic war machines sadonia-style is an unrealistic idea in this universe.
>>20408354..Do you know what the BETA are?
>>20408353You do you, fren. I'm just against the idea, that's all. The point your make about human war is a good point but it's still disgusting to me.
>>20408361I'm talking about beta-tsf goddamn it.
>>20408353I’m for BETA-TSF for new enemies to fight since the old BETA arent that exciting to fight anymore. And the designs for them were interesting.
>>20408417>the old BETA arent that exciting to fight anymoreand yet they still kick our asses.
>>20408422Muv Luv's mankind kicks it's own ass. It's a running theme in the series that it shouldn't have come to such dire straits against the BETA but humans gotta human
>>20408429where are you getting that from? Even if the entirety of humanity was in perfect sync it would've been almost the same. Sure you have some stuff like China and USSR refusing aid at first, but that quickly changed. And even with international cooperation and better technology we were still losing 8 out of 10 battles. It took a literal Edge of Tomorrow time traveler, a bunch of super robots, and a lot of luck to even begin to make a dent on the BETA. I feel like you're underestimating just how much of a threat they are
All these talk about Bio-TSFs reminds me of Slave Zero. Biomech with Venom AI voice yes please.
*sigh* Another infodump ep.
>you will never rape Kasumi
>>20408498and that's a good thing
>Watching TE>American pilot can't get used to japanese TSFsI thought they were mostly based on American models? Isn't the Fubuki just an Eagle with a bodykit?
I-is that ms paint...
So they skipped the snow CG. Every week I hope and every week I'm disappointed, just to varying degrees.
Well that episode was a whole load of standing around and talking. We never saw Chizuru's dad and have no reason to care that he's dead. Well, at least we'll be getting all the epic Mecha action we've been hoping for starting next episode.
>>20408537more like THE INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE
>>20408516Listen to Isumi's explanation again, the Shiranui and Fubuki were Japan's domestic attempt to leapfrog the US and build fully next-generation fighters using technology gleaned from the Eagle, and they're full of design compromises like how the underpowered engines have to be compensated for by leveraging stuff like the blade sheaths and head antennae as flight control surfaces and tuning the controls to be extremely sensitive, which creates a very fiddly, twitchy craft. Just slapping bigger engines on it to make the Shiranui 1C threw the performance balance off, so they needed American assistance with making the Shiranui Second that Yuuya is meant to be testing. Yuuya is used to flying American craft like the Raptor which can maneuver on sheer thrust vectored POWEEEEER and aren't tuned to be as finicky to operate as the Fubuki and Shiranui. You could compare it to the difference between the Zero and the Hellcat in WW2
>>20408557>Japan's domestic attempt to leapfrog the US and build fully next-generation fighters using technology gleaned from the Eagle,It's worse, they started off their third generation TSF project having only had experience building Gekishits under license and only later did they admit defeat and decide to license the Eagle so they could steal technology from that too.
>>20408516The Fubuki is more of a stripped down Shiranui, which is a whole new domestically designed airframe and not an Eagle kitbash.
No really.You can see the spray can tool was used as it bleeds over the lighting. Has this always been a thing with IXTL or is this ANchors doing?
>>20408557>>20408561Yeah, I guess I spoke too soon since the very next episode explained it.So far I'm loving this, the characters are great. You've got Italian Lady Killer (He's the girl from Rain Dancer's brother right? He should totally be in a Typhoon), Alcoholic Goblin (Best Girl), and Death Flag lady. We've even got Kasumi knockoff and sexy psycho on the Soviet side, which I'm guessing are Alt 3 rejects since their Su-37 is a two-seater. I think MC is right though, if you make your TSF an uncontrollable POS that can theoretically outperform other craft but only with veteran pilots then it's worthless, especially when you're churning out 16 year old pilots right into the grinder. There's a reason fly by wire exists
>>20408577> TEIf you don't mind getting spoiled (minor), obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVLuq6grXsM
>>20408582I'll check that after I'm done. I'm practically marathoning this shit anyways
>>20408591You can watch it midway through the series, and the spoiler is a real minor one.
>>20408516>Isn't the Fubuki just an Eagle with a bodykit?No, the Kagerou is the Eagle derivative
>>20408582They forgot when the F-22 dabs all over the Euros and Chinks. Just like real life.
>>20408667Seems like the vid got made only halfway through the series, no Blue Flag yet
>>20408293>spacebugs copy mechasNow that I've read MLA Knights of Sidonia does copy quite a few points from it.
>>20406394>Nice, is this the closest we get to a MLA sequel?Unless you count the Exogularity materials but they were never made into a VN.
>>20408735It's not spacebugs copying mechs, it's humans making meatmechs based off what they learned from studying the beta to scare the shit out of other humans
>>20408759It's basically Macross, but i'd still like to see it. That last bit with Yuuko, Kasumi and the clones is a bit too "Frozen Teardrop" for me though
>>20408735Does it? I didn't notice many similarities aside from "we're losing against ayys" and "main cast are in a military/highschool hybrid"
>>20408885>does itTons, i can't recall though since i only read the series once.
>>20408577>think MC is right though, if you make your TSF an uncontrollable POS that can theoretically outperform other craft but only with veteran pilots then it's worthless, especially when you're churning out 16 year old pilots right into the grinder.That's not really MC's point and is also a big highlight of American doctrine vs literally everyone else's doctrine. American jets are focused on long range stand off engagements using big fancy munitions. No one else can afford that so they take American designs and make them more maneuverable with a focus on CQC since they know it will probably come down to that. Does that take a better pilot yes but even this late in the day its easier to replace the pilot than the TSF.
>>20408572>Has this always been a thing with IXTLYes. Every version of TDA03 is like that.
>>20408935Looks like it was a last minute decision to censor the title.
>>20408885>tanikaze love nucleus>including enemy (friendly) == S00mika>enemy (friendly) wins>basically what happens after Alt 5 if it were geared towards generation ships>PTSD arc (lite)>veterans die like flies AGAIN>cohabitation romcom arcThough I think the further it got the more different it became. I liked both a lot.
I don't know why you think ML is so original that you wouldn't expect to see incidental similarities in other sci-fi besides a hack like Isayama.
Wouldn't it be hilarious to make Beatrix and Pham single mothers?
>>20408935>every versionEven before anniversary?Anyone with a cg pack could confirm that.
Any update on Mikhail ot is DOA for real?
Does anyone have a link for the stash still.
>>20409097Can you read the OP?
>>20409057I have the original physical release with Yuzuka and Ellen's pilot suit sprites on the spines sitting in the basement for some fucking reason, trust me bro.God I fucking forgot I have both versions of TE Jesus Christ.
>>20409082Supposedly, we'll be getting more info any day now.
>>20409227>people in the discordlmao tells you everything about the size of the playerbase right there doesn't it
>>20409230Surface pilot survival rate too low, please understand.
TDA is on sale. Is the translation good?
>>20409282Just grab the pirated version that has the uncensor patch installed in it, no point buying a censored product.
>>20409308>uncensored patchThere's absolutely nothing that i see that appears uncensored.
>>20409313The first two TDA titles have suit nipples removed and the nude CG's heavily censored. The patch restores both of them to the original uncensored version.
>If you’re wondering… yeah, the nipples is censored but it applies to eps 00 and 01; eps 02 and 03 doesn’t have it on the jap version.This is false i'm currently playing TDA02
>>20409282FYI, the uncensored patch also works with the steam version
>see earlier postMakes me wonder why they didn't bother with 02 and 03.
Any news on TE release?
Wondering if they will ever make good on their promise for Teito moyu and Schwarzesmaken demo.
Aggravating because there was a 20% completion TL for Total Eclipse.
>new MLA episode drops>literally no one talking aboutdoomposters... WE WON.
Can't stop fapping to Meiya
I love my wife Marimo.
>>20409532That's my wife you schizo
>>20409532Sorry anon, but your wife was seen with another man
>>20409532>>20409544I'm sorry to say that one of you lads is a poser. And that Marimo's pussy has gone through an entire baseball team before you ever got to her.
>>20409586that just means she's good at it, and that you're better than the entire team if she's sticking with you
>>20409633>and that you're better than the entire team if she's sticking with you
>>20409667That's rich coming from a rape tentacle monster that lost to a regular human dick
>>20409633She's desperate to settle down, at this point whoever sticks with her is a beta orbiter.
>>20409681I guess that depends on which Marimo we're talking about. I assumed betaverse since she's wearing her uniform here >>20409544
>>20409586I don't care, I love Marimo!
>>20409532damn marimo had tits like that?
>>20409706Me lifting her ass
>>20409441well considering it was supposed to be 2021 and they've got exactly a month left and there's no news I'd say you can expect it to be delayed.>>20409446Doubt a Teito demo is happening since it's hard confirmed to not be in the steam release
>want to record all the H-scenes in MuvLuv Duelist for archiving purposes>can't read moon and suck at card gamesFuck me
kek are they really going to translate kiminozo and sell it on steam, I feel like this one route alone is so offensive it could start a twitter feminist hate mob
>>20409921Don't worry, they'll just remove it.
>>20409727She never was flat. She is just slightly smaller than Yuuko.
>>20409943Have to make it more faithful to the Rumbling Hearts title anyways
>>20407080>An uncensor patch doesn't existI have the OG Altered Fable and it runs i just need the patch.
>>20409921twitter tards get pissed at combo meals and QVCthat's not an accomplishment
>>20409958>Rumbling HeartsYeah... Yaaay...
>>20409970read the next 4 words
Man, they're really shoving TWO "stranded on the island" episodes into TE? I guess they need the fanservice to sell the show...Quick question, where exactly is "Ensign" in the military ladder? Yuuya and Inia are both Ensigns, which seems to rank lower than a lt.? I thought commissioned pilots were at the lowest second lts. Unless it's handled differently in the USA than it is in the USSR or Japan. Also, does muv-luv use army ranks? or air force ranks? navy?
>>20410015Ensign is Second Lieutenant
>>20410015your translation is just shit they're both 中尉
>>20410036>>20410044Oh I see, I'm using commie subs. Guess I should have expected that given their track record. Are the "PGS" subs any better?
>>20408572they decided to delete nipples starting halfway through chronicles/TE for some reason which is hilarious because they literally draw them during development then delete them. There's development screenshots of schwarzesmarken with nipples and that was years after the policy change
>>20410015The TE subs are fucked and just use Gundam/navy ranks for no reason. Don't know if there's a script out there on any BD release that fixes it.>>20410160I feel like editing and QA should be more than 5 weeks, although they didn't say 2021
>>20410169Schwarzesmarken like TE is really heavy on flipping old assets that originally were used in the novel.
>>20410015The translator saw that they're part of a fictional UN army so he didn't have any IRL organization to reference, so he decided to just use Gundam ranks because there was no style guide at the time. Unfortunately Gundam's feddies were navy based
>>20410172It was the standing sprites.also why are new Irisdina lines being recorded?https://twitter.com/kycow/status/1463720885211123716
>>20410185Immortal probably unless the anime has a random 20 year flashback, no idea since I dropped it
>>20410185Mikhail or Immortal
>>20410191Immortal's still apparently slated to come out this year so that's most likelyIt's still probably gonna get delayed to next year
>>20410185I had really hoped Immortal wouldn't force SM characters into the game with time fuckery again, but oh wellI guess they'll rehash alternative for the fourth time in a row too
Why couldn't they get Koyasu for Sagiri? This new guy sucks
>>20410273Sagiri is gonna suck regardless of who voices him. Might as well get the guy with the whiniest, high pitched voice we can get.
>>20410181They are literally an army though. There is one Engrish display screen in episode 3 that says Ensign though so there's that.
>>20410306Yeah, the translator either didn't really count on the army/navy difference or thought Yuuya was a navy pilot because his nickname was Top Gun.>>20410252Becuase Yuuya is now in the UN army, not the Navy.
Incidentally though you can also find old Gundam translations that use army (or maybe they're supposed to be air force) ranks for the EFSF which actually did technically have no specific rank equivalency. The recently formed USSF in fact still uses the same rank structure as the USAF.A part of me says it would be simpler to just use the damn Japanese ranks as is in some cases, god knows I've seen people use enough German ones.
Who thought this was a good image to use for an official giveawayIt literally looks like a soul soulless edithttps://twitter.com/Muvluv_Official/status/1463756940576980992
>>20410361It's like soul and soulless right in front of me.
>>20410361>Left: Detailed, salute shows her noble and dutiful nature, and her trustworthy smile and kind eyes tell you everything is gonna be okay>Right: Printer ran out of ink, and she's grasping at het chest wondering why her bow got smaller. She looks like she's laughing at your boner when you're presenting in class. Without the light of her smile, she lost most of her shading tooMy Meiya... what have they done to you
>>20410361The strangest thing is that the anime also looks as old as the game is, like one of those early digital anime with really muted colors and streamlined character designs. (which I don't mean inherently pejoratively)
https://twitter.com/muvluvseries/status/1463723733776961537Looks like TE is in editing. Hopefully SM won't take too long after.
>>20410472Where's Teito Moyu?
>>20410472Guess I picked the perfect time to watch the show then. Also, your image is a fucking lie, you meanie
I hate Lise so much.
>TE>Soviet Rape squadWell, there's out acceptable casualties for the upcoming invasion. A shame they'll be wasting those sexy Sukhois. >Green Hatsune MikuAnd here I was thinking the hairstyles and hair colors had been pretty normal up to now. Wonder what her deal is.I gotta say, I'm picking the Cryska route. Obviously they're gonna go with the Yui route because Abe demands japanese pureblood babies, but you really can't beat badass-yet-cute-yet-vulnerable-yet-psycho white haired beauty. Wonder if they're gonna explain why se was a bloodthirsty psycho exhibitionist only for the first episode. Guessing her Terminator has Esper equipment that drives her berserk or something.>Tanks have reactive armorAnd what good is that gonna do against the BETA? Hell, what good is a tank anyways? Just mount the tank's gun on the most lightly armored truck you've got, it's not like that armor is gonna save you from getting oneshot by literally every beta species
>>20410750>Soviet Rape squadHa ha, time for dedovshchina!
>>20410750There is plenty of little guy baters you would rather have a steel plate between you and them, as you should be reminded shortly.
>>20410753And a cyka blyat to you too comrade. I wish the subs translated the russian, because I haven't played nearly enough Counter Strike to learn even the common phrases>>20410756Eh, at best it'll stop warrior and soldier classes, which can probably rip off the hatches and nom nom you anyways. going at twice the speed away from them is a better strategy
Can someone explain why nobody trusted Takeru during the Original Hive operation? It's a major disservice to his character to treat him like an idiot who would fuck up the most important mission. After everything he's been through, you'd think his squad would have more faith in him. Am I missing a major plot point or is it bad writing with forced drama?
>>20410763I can't remember the details, but IIRC even he admits he would've gone back for them without the spoofing. Remember how hard it was to pull the trigger on Meiya? Now imagine having to do that 5 times during the mission. He'd probably have spent ammo trying to save them, and Yuuko made sure the mission was accomplished regardless of losses. They all went along with it because they knew it would be necessary. For all his character growth, at heart Takeru was still a kid with a savior complex
>>20410763As you might've noticed, Takeru is very bad at handling death. Having him have a breakdown like the one after Mitsuki bit the dust is a major risk, especially considering the importance of the mission.It's still forced drama, especially since he doesn't really have a meltdown after the jig is up.
>Zhar squad jobbedAs expected, I wish more of them died though. No room for self-sabotaging assholes in this war. They kidna look like SEED characters, so that makes them even more hateable. Speaking of self-sabotage, it wouldn't be a UN op without like 4 opposing parties with different goals for the op. >RailgunRailgun my ass, that's some kind of laser beam. They go back and forth between calling it EM radiation cannon and Railgun, which is weird for a franchise that usually gets these kinds of things right. Aren't railguns already a thing in ML? I know the Susanoo had a bunch of them and they weren't treated as anything special, other than their size of course. Since this thign is starting trials on november 2001, Susanoo should predate this, and it seems to have better guns. Since this weapon doesn't show up anywhere else, I'm gonna assume they'll pull a Stardust Memory and just say it got covered up or something, otherwise we would've seen them in Alt. Or at least, soldiers wouldn't be so awestruck by seeing a beam weapon for the first time on Sadogashima. >Scarlet twinsOh, so they're in some sort of mind link tandem piloting set up. And I'm guessing Cryska gets regular mindwipes or something, probably to stop her brain from melting. I gotta say, retractable chainsaws are the coolest shit. Sorry Typhoon, you've been dethroned.>Baofeng flightIs this the first time China appears? I kinda assumed they weren't really a thing anymore since they lost all their territory. Where is China now? As in, where's their current territory and capital? Also, I can't stress enough how much of a banger the OP theme is. The ED sounds like something out of Fafner.
>>20410856>Where is China now? As in, where's their current territory and capital?Taiwan. PRC and ROC have a united front for now.
>>20410856>EM radiation cannon and RailgunMistranslation; officially it's the EML-99X EM Induction Launcher.And since you've seen how it works, >>20408582
>>20408582>>20410886Making Walken proud. I didn't notice the Shiranui firing the engines on full blast to compensate for the... laser recoil? Maybe it's firing a stream of superheated iron shavings or something? >Top GunI didn't want to say it, but yeah this is totally Top Gun/ Macross Plus. Both movies I love, so I feel right at home. I'm still betting on Stella being Goose in this situation. A shame she's not flying a swedish craft like a Gripen or Viggen. Hell, I'd love to see what the TSF variant of the Draken looks like
>>20410898>GooseOh, you're in for a treat later.
>>20410856>Railgun my ass, that's some kind of laser beam.It is a Electro Magnetic Induction Launcher. It fires hundred of rounds in a second at such high speeds that they turn air around each bulet into burning hot plasma from the air friction. It just appears like continuous beam of light.BTW they were planning to put sevral of these babies in second Sunanoo for attack on Original Hive but didn't have time for that.>Where is China now? As in, where's their current territory and capital?What remains of PRC had evacuated to Taiwan and other nations were ther lease some territory. In MLA both Chinese nations formed an United Front of China which is tight military alliance. They are still separate governments but it's not unusual for them to have mixed nationally units. Baofeng is example of that as it is commanded by Taiwanese while rest of girls are from Communist China.
>Zhar CommanderOnly reedemable character in her entire unit, I feel for her and her surrogate mother deal she's got going on. Kinda weird how they took her kid away since Russians are supposedly privileged elites who don't get sent to the frontlines. That said "It's ok for my squad to be assholes, because they're racist" is a really poor justification for their gangrape rituals.>YuiI hadn't noticed until now, but she's basically a reverse Yuuko. She puts her feelings above the mission, often complicating things more than they should be>Tunneling BETANow wait a minute. I thought they only started tunneling in Sadogashima, thanks to the data S00mika was feeding them. But this is November, so Yuuko shouldn't even have the full formulas yet. I think the writers made timeline fucky wucky here, digging underground was supposed to be this massive unprecedented tactical brilliance for the betaAlso, you can really tell they spent all the budget on the big battle scene last episode, because this entire episode was QUALITY. Zhar commander got it the worst, I don't think she was on model for a single shot this episode. Here's hoping this means next ep is a high budget one again.>>20410932Can't wait till they show what Chun-Li does. She's in the OP and we get occasional inserts of her, so she's clearly gonna be involved, but I'm halfway through and she's still irrelevant to the plot. Unless she's a cameo from something else?
>apprehensive about even starting the show>no one has shared a single webm of the series looking goodthis is moderately concerning
>>20406652It's been 12-odd years since /m/en helped drive ML+A to win Ixrec's VN-to-TL poll too, gg's Ruitomo trolling aside.
>>20410978The "tactical brilliance" that the BETA gained from the information exchange was using diversions. Tunnelling has always been a thing the BETA did but humanity never observed a carrier class directly until Kashgar, only detected its seismic signature
>>20410996Yashiro is the only redeeming quality of the anime.
>>20410996plenty own cool TSF fight webms on /a/ when ep 1 dropped people here are just trying to make up reasons to hate it even if there are parts which look genuinly amazing
>>20411180unelss you have some hateboner for it then yes, TSFs never looked better
>>20411181>never looked betterCompared to Total Eclipse, yeah. Not the VN though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFDv5sm9x3k
>>20411181CGI looks like absolute dogshit in anime every single time.
How many new CGs do the All-Ages/Steam versions have compared to the originals? I've noticed a few from Youtube videos.
>>20411389plenty of them, also new sprites and animated sequences honestly I was afraid at first that instead of providing a patch they'll pull a Dies Irae, but thankfully that wasn't the case
What happened to the /a/ thread
Greetings fellow BETAs, is it true that Marimo-chan was seen eating with another man?
>>20411279some of the tsfs scenes looked good earlier in the season but the trees scene was dogwateralso maybe its time for me to read tda (picrel)
>>20410856the susanoo was supposed to have the railguns from te but didn't because the project got beta'd
Where's the powerplant on a TSF? They've got the two boost units on the back, but those only provide thrust and can be detached, and the TSF remains operational. Where does the TSF get the energy for the limbs, electronics, etc. Are they battery-powered? Do they charge the batteries with the thrusters or are they topped up whenever they resupply? Do they have some sort of internal reactor?Also, aren't they supposed to have some sort of smaller mechsuit for ejection? Why don't we ever see that?
>>20411509Its true, its true! I heard about it from one of the guys in my hive! I couldn't believe it either
>>20411632The TSF control seat *is* the exoskeleton / "smaller mechsuit".You can see the guns in the background of any TSF cockpit interior shot I don't think we ever saw it in action because anyone who has to eject is surrounded by beta and eaten alive
>Soviet trickeryDamn, someone high up must really hate Zhar squad. Seems like they're being pushed into suicide missions every single deployment. Wonder who the commander pissed off>TwinsYeah, looks like Soviet Newtype equipment makes you bloodthirsty as fuck. Betting Yuuya is gonna have to snap them out of it at some point. For until then, rip and tear until it's done.>>20411672Oh, so that's what those are. It feels weird that nobody uses those, the battle of Kyoto would have been a perfect situation. Maybe we'd still have underdeveloped himecut with us
>>20411717>>20411672There's concept art of it, and also the armored infantry that shows that shows up in Resurrection
>>20411722>Mecha Meiya MusumeWe were robbed. That's halfway towards Metroid Powersuits already, what a shame. Cant help but wonder about that...clitoris stimulator? on the bottom. That can't be comfortable to use as a male, it'd crush your sack
>TDA003 complete>The knowledge that there will never be a conclusion
>>20411744>Exposed torsoOh you poor fuckers. They get torn apart, don't they?
>>20411237It's literally only the opening. The TSF movement within the novel is for the most point powerpoint tyre except for the cockpit scenes which were pretty good.
>>20411744When I first saw them I was reminded of picrel. At least it's not as retarded the GRIM DARKNESS version with the face exposed.
>>20411750Against BETA probably, but we only ever actually see them used for Yokohama base security
this might be my favorite muvluv image yet
>>20411815It's a cute image anon
>>20411815my betaverse virgin wife
>>20411873>virginZero chance anyone in the Valkyries was a virgin.
>>20410932Once again she's half.
>>20411181>10 years of industry CGI improvement>look slightly better maybesugeeeee
>>20411919>if it looks bad it sucks >if it looks good it sucks
>>20411717>>Soviet trickery>Damn, someone high up must really hate Zhar squad. Seems like they're being pushed into suicide missions every single deployment. Wonder who the commander pissed offThis wiki quote should explain what and why >"Throughout the war against the BETA, the Soviet government had been faced with the increasing problem of mutiny concerning non-Russian Soviets displaced from their nations and drafted into the Soviet forces; such was the fear of the BETA that it surpassed the draconian grasp of the Soviet government. In response, the Soviet military approached the issue with the goal of suppressing all divides formed by national borders and racial groups, separating children from their parents at a young age and training them in military institutes to place their sense of belonging in the unit they were operating with, rather than the origins of their people.>The tactic was only moderately successful, however; the next generation of soldiers were willing to die for their comrades, who were often of the same ethnicity as them; without a family to nurture them, they had turned towards people of the same race as them as a natural response. However, they still held no loyalty to the Soviet government; as well, with regards to ethnic Russians, Soviets of other nationalities still resent them for the biased treatment non-Russian Soviets had received compared to ethnic Russians. With most Russian Soviets are stationed in the rear lines or in Alaska, the majority of frontline troops are Soviets of non-Russian lineage; this has strained the social relationships between the Russians and Soviets of other nationalities, as apart from having to deal with the loss of their countries, the other races feel that they are being used as cannon fodder. An example would be in 2001, when Soviet leaders ordered the destruction of the 211 Batal'on Zhar."
>>20411509>>20411668btw that "man" was me, wwwwwwwwww
>>20411908in the betaverse the kiminozo/ita girls had their love stories left unresolved so that leaves a sizeable window for me
>>20411950We know for a fact Isumi isn't, and Murakata too. Kazama is unlikely as well, Kashiwagi too. And given what we've seen of pilot school, it's very unlikely the others are.Of course I'm counting girl on girl, if we're talking girl on guy then it gets more complicated
>>20411962>I'm counting girl on girlyea that doesn't count lol
>>20411926I haven't thought any of the Muv-Luv anime have bad looking CGI but it wasn't enough to watch Schwarzesmarken for either.
>>20411972Then it gets a bit more limited. Isumi and Munakata are still in the "practically confirmed" camp, and Kashiwagi and Hayase are following close behind due to their personalities. Akane might not be one either if her betaverse counterpeart is as "popular" as her extraverse one.That said, girl on girl totally counts. And since physical activity can rupture the hymen, it's almost guaranteed none of them have theirs left after bootcamp, if that's the measure you're going by.Then again, most of the main girls still had theirs, so IDK how reliable that last point is
>>20411950Pretty sure the KimiNozo love triangle ended the moment Takayuki took a G-Bomb to the face.
>>20411998Isumi and Munakata aren't confirmed, and Kazama and Munakata's relationship is always played for laughs, which basically guarantees it not being even close to romantic.
>>20411998Why would Isumi be in the "practically confirmed" camp? She has a heavy case of oneitis and doesn't seem all that experienced sexually or romantically. Munakata is somewhat debatable as well because her teasing is stated to be just an act to keep people away and she's actually a closet romantic. Mostly depends on whether she fucked her romantic interest or not.>>20412018Eh, not really. Haruka and Hayase do claim to be trying to settle things between them by having a rivalry on seeing who finds a boyfriend first, but both aren't really acting on this and are heavily implied to be still carrying a torch for Takayuki.
>>20412042Isumi mentioned in her academy days that she likes some girl loving from time to time, meaning she's usually into man loving. Meaning she's fucked dudes.Munakata got her reputation SOMEHOW; it's not like one day she just went "hey guys tell everyone I'm a thirsty lesbo as a joke". And her relationship with Kazama isn't fully debunked, you just know their recent meetings have been training-related. Given that this is a unit with high casualty rates, you can imagine they'd all be desperate for comfort before their missions...
>>20412062Isumi was saving herself for Maejima. She outright said so, she believed that he may actually be alive somewhere.
>>20412066I dunno, the sex scene in Confessions was pretty heavy implied. Unless this is one of those Japanese cultural things where it doesn't count if it's with a girl, you're still pure. If that's the case, then it'd also reframe her "occassional girl on girl action" comment.But then again I wouldn't call her a virgin if that's the case.
>>20412072That scene was purely comedic, only a kiss happened, if anything. Blame your western mind which was trained by media to immidiately assume sexual relations the second you see two characters holding hands.
>>20412062Did you read Resurrection? Munakata definitely comes off as a virgin there. Her act might be just taking it from the chaddest of chads.
Munakata isn't a virgin because she had sex with me.
>>20411744Seriously, these things cant be save against BETA hordes.
>>20412097Fuck off Silvio.
Can your favorite TSF kill these things, Anon?
>>20412177What the fuck is that thing beneath the Super Destroyer?
>>20412183The invincible Tri-Destroyer!
>>20412232Me on the far right.
>>20412232True Yamato Damashii, clad in Murrican uniforms except for Fagiri.
>>20411998>girl on girl totally countsno it doesnt lol
>>20412232>carrying a katanaWhat an absolute virgin. He's probably on his way to beg the shogun to.have sex with him because he held the door for her
>>20412530does that make Meiya a virgin for holding one too?
>>20412540Meiya is a true noble and she carries her sword around to protect the Shogun's honor. Sagiri is an uppity commoner who bought a plastic piece of shit on walmart because the shopkeeper called him a handsome boy
>>20406228>>20406276>>20406439>>20406542I want to breed Beatrix thoroughly, she'd make a fine housewife raising the kids
>>20412660My wife, Beatrix, is a great cook.
>>20412177The right side of that image is full of phallic imagery.
>>20412778you might want to get your dick checked out
>>20412110I mean, they used them in the Lunar War
It's autumn sale and I still have no money to buy any of the VN's from Steam. Wanted to get some just for safekeeping but oh well..
>>20412850Hey, I hate going to the archives just because I broke my laptop again and lose all my VN's. At least with Steam I get to have a place to easily download it from.
>>20412855Oh and I like seeing all my games in my library. Gives me a weird feeling.
>>20412552Cope nobleconfident cuck.
>>20413094he says, posting an actual cuck who kept sending fan letters to a 15 year old, said girl preferred a guy she knew for less than 2 months over him
>Soviet trickery, part DeuxIt really feels like everyone suddenly became retarded or retardedly evil all of a sudden, for the sake of drama>Evil Soviet CommanderOkay, so the plan is we stage the attack, then retake the base without too much damage to get the cannon. This base is key to the frontline's defense, but we can't afford to lose it. Also, we're sending Zhar battalion to pick up the cannon.Actually, let's bomb the entire base, losing both the base AND the cannon. Why? Because I'm a cartoon villain. Oh also make sure to send Zhar battalion to die as well, despite them not having been given any orders related to the gun yet, and despite them apparently being trustworthy enough to retrieve it in the original plan. Why? Because I need to twirl my moustache some more.>Yui and YuuyaI was pulling my hair at how long they were spending on Tsundere antics. Sure it was cute as hell, but this is THE MIDDLE OF A BETA ATTACK. Do you really have time to get off the TSF and reminisce about the good old days and do the whole "call me by my first name uguu" while Stella is busting her ass providing cover fire. Talking is nota free action ffs. Also, as soon as they picked the black box up, why not just fly the fuck away? For some reason Yuuya decided to stay there to... shoot some Tanks? Of course this means he instantly lost the black box, AND damaged the Shiranui. Why? Also apparently now TSFs need a massive runway to take off? Despite them being able to hop on top of buildings without any runway? Hell, Stella got on top of the control tower no problem but now they need to use the Fast & Furious runway to hop over some Destroyers? >Yuuya's last standHe's the MC so I know they're not killing him, but still it's a pretty cool last stand. I used to think the Shiranui was kinda shitty, but it's grown on me. My money is on Zhar battalion arriving to save him just in time (Despite having taken off before Argos flight, I guess they took the scenic route?).
>>20413245Also apparently a TSF doing NOE flight gets an artificial flight ceiling to avoid....strategic bombers? They better not say "I can't override it" next episode because that'd be the peak of retardation, considering we've seen time and time again that pilots can override nearly every safety feature on a TSF
>>20413245>He's the MC so I know they're not killing himWell that was not a given at the time because TE could have legitimately ended there.
>>20412232> DOKE DOKE DOKE
>Kamchatka battle ENDWelp, of all the ways I expected Zhar squad to go, Friendly fire was not one of them. I still don't get why exactly they were silenced since they were given no secret orders in the first place, but soviet union gonna soviet union I guess>Yuuya survivedSo let me get this straight. Argos flight, which had seen light combat because they were a test flight, had barely enough fuel to fly back to base after the iniitial assault. Meanwhile, Zhar squad, which had been in the thick of the battle, had enough fuel and ammo to fight in the occupied base, and also go and wipe out the faraway laser classes too. Guess those Sukhois must pack a shitload of fuel. heel, two of them even carried a damaged TSF halfway to the other base and then flew back. I'm telling you, Stalinium fuel is the most efficient in the world.>Mysterious Killer TSFThat's totally the Berkut, isn't it, Can't wait till they give us a proper look at it, my dick is hard in anticipation. That thing must be EVIL AS FUCK, and the scarlets are probably on board the thing. I hope this isn't a Four Murasame situation.>Laser classYou know, form the VN descriptions I always assumed the laser classes fired a continous beam, with factoids like "TSF armor can take 5 seconds of continuous laser fire" reinforcing that belief. But in TE they fire Star Wars-like "laser bolts". Is that canon or just an animation fuckup? Whatever the case, the in-cockpit shot of the girl getting microwaved alive was pretty gnarly, getting SEED flashbacks again.>Production ShiranuiEWWW they painted it in Nirvash colors. Please paint it blue again, remove this clown shit from my sight, it looks like a toy (I know it is one, but fuck you).
>>20413647>That's totally the Berkut, isn't it, I can't remember exactly the order of events shown for this in the anime because in at least one version it's very explicit but not yet, no>Is that canon or just an animation fuckup?More of an animation convenience, only like 1% of all TV and movie science fiction actually portrays lasers as continuous beams and to be honest I'm pretty sure the game only made them lasers because it was convenient for the animation limitations of that format.Also don't worry Tekkaman Shiranui is a time limited special edition color although you're not getting the 1C camo back.
>Blue Flag ExerciseI know the Americans are out of touch, but a tournament? Really? Who the fuck is in charge of organizing this? Did Tama's dad approve this? Sure TSF v TSF combat looks cool but its completely useless in wartime. You're really gonna send the top aces from all over the world to participate in a game?>YuuyaHis moments with Yui are cute, I ship it. Cryska is for (Me) after all. I find it kinda weird how he's all "They Shiranui is so strong, i feel like I can climb as high as I want" when he was a test pilot for the Raptor, which should blow the Shiranui's asshole wide open.>Chun-Li returnsDid she seriously just walk in demand to know what race people were? Is this what you call, "based"? She even started fighting with the brown girl right away, I now believe she frequents /pol/. I find it hilarious that the Chinese are piloting knockoff F-16s, true to life I suppose. Next we'll be seeing totally-not-Shiranuis I'm guessing?>American SquadI like the girl, she's got Sheryl hair and is named Sharon, so my Macross-loving heart is already open. Not a fan of Sasuke Uchiha, the last thing we need is an edgelord in ML.>RaptorsSpeak of the devil. Barring plot armor, a full squad of Raptors should shamelessly rape any other TSF squad, the damn things are designed for this specific purpose. Wonder how they translated the Raptor's thrust vectoring to the TSF incarnation? A lot of TSFs have raptor stealth TV nozzles on their boost packs (Which makes no sense but looks cool so whatever) so I wonder if the Raptor just isn't the aerobatic monster it is IRL Still, only team which could feasibly stand a chance against a Raptor squad should be a full Takemikazuchi squad. Wonder how the two machines compare performance-wise? The purple ones probably beat the Raptors, but what about the lower tiers?>Cryska's lullabiesMy hear. My soul. They're melting
>>20413801>Blue Flag ExerciseTotally not an opportunity for other nations to crib design notes and other data from Gen3 TSFs, nosiree.
>>20413836Also have an old pic done before the VN got released.
>>20413838Thanks, I hate it.
Is anybody else getting timeout errors on the wiki?
>>20413801Blue Flag is a military industrial complex pissing match that lets the manufacturers and their associated states show off how much better their gear and pilots are.
>>20413801>I find it kinda weird how he's all "They Shiranui is so strong, i feel like I can climb as high as I want" when he was a test pilot for the Raptor, which should blow the Shiranui's asshole wide open.Shiranui Second is his planefu, you can't explain that. Also with Boeing's next generation upgrades frankensteined into it the Second isn't as far behind the Raptor as the original Shiranui is.
>>20412552Meiya is also the one that sympathizes the most with Sagiri tho.
Did the anon who was doing MLA finish it? He was only missing 21st right?
I just finished watching Last Divers and holy shit that was an emotional rollercoaster. I know I was supposed to have read it before TDA but I'm actually glad that I read TDA fist. I don't think it would've had the same impact on me if I hadn't.
>>20410746But Lise loves you.
>Indar v FrenchWhy were the French in F-16 knockoffs rather than Typhoons (or Rafales)? We may never know. I find the "it's all CGI created by JIVES" excuse hilarious though, some dev actually programmed in "pilot getting mangled by chainsaw" and "TSF getting samurai slashed in two" into the simulations. >Argos v ChinaDamn, the Chinese are even bigger melee nuts than the Japanese. And they almost won in inferior TSFs too, I guess Chun-li is just that much better of a pilot. >TwinsDamn, they put them in the Stranger Things sensory deprivation tank. Here's hoping at some point they go berserk and "accidentally" cap the evil russian guy with a 120mm round>>20413838If only those pics weren't so blurry that I could recognize the TSFs. Is Yuuya more mechasexual in the VN?
Just finished Muv Luv Alternative... that fucking fantastic. Can I read TDA immediately after or should I play Photon first?
>>20414208Photon is a compilation of short stories while TDA is the sequel of the Unlimited timeline. So it depends on you.
>Cryska episodeDamn, they really want me to doubt my conviction to Meiya, don't they. Cryska is hitting all the right spots. Holy shit her flashback was dire, I know it was a cursed child experimentation orphanage but did it really need to have a child corpse dumping ground out in the back? That's like less than a block a way. as soon as you crack a window open you'll get a mouthful of rancid corpse fragrance>Baofeng v InfinitiesAs expected, asshole blown wide open. Are these raptors a variant from the ones we see in MLA? The head looks different, I think it has more eyes? Maybe it just looks different because of the switch to 3D. Still, Cui is the definition of an Alpha and would probably crush Yuuya's hips, he's not ready>Park dateCute. You will never go on a park date with a cute Russian supersoldier and her autistic sister, and it hurts. The flower seller must be really impressed, although since this is a VN world he's probably used to love octahedron shenanigans. Wonder if they do special harem deals? >Yuuya's old war storiesSeeing as he'd never seen live combat, I'm guessing his "past crime" is gonna be something really petty like "he always left the fridge door open" or some shit. For a 4-man flight, it's kinda weird that the other two members of Infinities are getting zero screentime. If the BETA show up again during the show (doubtful) then those guys will be the first to go.>YuiEven if I am on team Cryska, Yu has the best reactions and faces by far. I swear at one point she was doing the aqua face. That said, isn't it kinda racist to assume just because she's japanese, she knows how to use a katana? I doubt he knows they practice it during basic...
>>20412825the moon is hell
>>20414218>Are these raptors a variant from the ones we see in MLA?Yes they are. Infinities operate F-22A EMD ( Engineering and Manufacturing) Phase 2 models. A final test models build before Raptor was put into full production.They are still used to develop and improve existing F-22 tech.
>>20414208General advice is photons first, TDA second. That's becayse TDA references the short stories. Nothing really big, but if you're reading both anyway it's better to do so in this order.
>>20414114should be read at any point after 00 but not before imo. there's a certain tension about the rest of humanity's fate in 00 that is dispelled by watching last divers first
>>20414208I played TDA first and that made Photonmelodies/Flowers more enjoyable for me. But either order is fine.
>>20414218>Are these raptors a variant from the ones we see in MLA? The head looks different, I think it has more eyes?The MLA Raptor sprite was infamously QUALITY because the game ran out of budget, it had only one pose and was extremely off model. This is how it appears in MLA...
>>20414444Versus how it's actually SUPPOSED to look as shown in the Integral Works lineart
>>20414457And how it appears in The Day After
>Yuuya's incidentCaptain Sven, he is A GOOSE. I don't see why Shadow the Hedgehog blames him for it, since that was clearly beyond his control. If anything, whoever picked that canyon was at fault, since the rocks were loose enough to collapse.. Also, apparently Sharon was with Yuuya before she was with Sasuke, massive oof for the guy. No wonder he's so butthurt.>Cui I like the Chinese girl, her smug aura is overpowering. She can dominate Yui just by sheer Alpha brainwaves. If I had the photoshop skills, I'd shop her face into the "gigachad" meme>VincentThis guy is the secret star of the show. While Yuuya is doing the typical MC routine, this guy is conquering every other girl on the base. Take the bridge bunnies for example, you could actually hear the splashes on the floor as he showed off. They remind me of the bunnies from Frontier hard, brown+glasses is always a winning combo.Bartender girl is not far behind though, girls in suits are the deadliest weapon known to man. >Extemely suspicious spy truckI was holding back my laughter the entire episode. You're really gonna paint your spy truck bright orange with a tiger print? Sure it's meant to look like a civvie vehicle, but that's still gonna draw the attention of everyone since it's the only non-gray thing on the base. I get it, the audience are retards, but still. So much for the the dreaded soviet intelligence agencies. (What would this be, KGB? Wonder what Betaverse putin is doing)I haven't taken a single look at the credits yet, so I don't even know what studio produced this show. Does it share any staff with. Symphogear? I swear Ina looked like a white-haired clone of Shirabe in one of the last shots. >>20414444>>20414457>>20414464Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see anything wrong with the MLA sprite? I thought it was badass and the cutscenes hid the monopose limitation well. If all TSFs in TDA look like that I'm gonna have a good time when I get to it though, that's a massive leap in detail
>>20414519>Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see anything wrong with the MLA sprite?The shoulder armor blocks are too flat, the shoulder codes are missing, the skirt armor looks like it's melting, the forearms are the wrong shape, the top part of the chest immediately under the neck isn't colored properly, the shins are wrongly shaped, the blue glowing lines on the neck and ankles are missing, and generally the whole thing just looks weirdly warped.
Anyone have Project Immortal trailer on hand.It's dead in the OP.
>>20414531I see, to be honest I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed them out. It's less of a "looks bad quality" and more of a "doesn't look like the lineart" issue, which wouldn't be a problem unless you've seen the lineart. I can even excuse the blue lines as being formation lights, meaning they wouldn't be on during a combat op. Same goes for the shoulder markings, it was a "black ops" mission so maybe they removed the unit markings on purpose. There were glowies all around, so plausible deniability is essential.The TDA model has some massive knees though, wonder that they even keep in there. Does the raptor even carry a knife? IF so that's where I'd put it, also looks like some flare launchers in there too?
>>20414570knife is in the knees i think. check out the codex sometime really interesting stuff if you want just a bit more
>>20414570Fair enough. generally the coloring and detail on the Raptor is a step down from that on the Fubuki, Shiranui and Takemi in MLA but it's not as noticeable at night maybe.
>>20413174>an actual cuck who kept sending fan letters to a 15 year old, said girl preferred a guy she knew for less than 2 months over himKek, I forgot about the fan-mail poetry. Sagiri really is pathetic in all worlds
>Hot springs episode.We're really slotting in filler this close to the end? Guess the audience numbers were dropping or something>Bridge bunniesDid... did they just give us a lesbian threesome? That's pretty explicit, damn. Brown girl is a massive shipper too, Yuuya better get in there quick before they steal your girl>Women's springTypical anime antics "Let me grope you, your tits are bigger, aren't we such massive lesbians?". Just remember, at this very moment there's probably a bunch of russians getting eaten alive by BETA a few clicks north>Men's springDEEPDARKSPRINGFANTASYThose guys are gonna need an icepack for their ass tomorrow morning.>ScarletsYuuya, you've seen a sight no man can see and remain alive. The only option is to commit ritual seppuku
>>20414464What the fuck are those kneeguards? Sharp area is too small for reasonable use as fixed armament. Unless this raptor is supposed to knee Destroyers in the ass.
>>20414663They're Knife sheathes.
I sat down and started alt, did it from the beginning to the Xm3 demo in one 22 hour sitting and my heart is already weak from mr bones wild ride. Considering the past 2 games have trained me into a chizuru fag when she says "I have no place to go back too" was awfully hard to survive and I want to protect her smile but I feel that's not gonna happen
>Bartender is a glowieTook me by surprise, was not expecting that. >New OPThis far in? The music is fine, I liked the old one better. The images on the other hand... Berkut my beloved, you're finally here. Apparently there's a new squad and Yuuya gets a new TSF too? Apparently it can go super saiyan... the fuck?>Terrorist plotThe only thing worse than teamkilling fucktards? Fanatical teamkilling fucktards, these guys are worse than Beta. I bet Sagiri is somehow behind this. >Redhead is in on itWelp, there goes any sympathy I had for her. Hope the BETA they're planning to release take their time with her>Refugee Liberation FrontOh this is some Sagiri-grade retardation, you could probably kill an esper with these kinds of retarded brainwaves. "The war with the BETA made us refugees, and we suffered. Thus, we will attack the people fighting the BETA, and destroy all the weapons they're using to fight them. What do we accomplish with this? Fuck if I know, but we're too retarded to live so we might as well take others down with us">NatalieAm I supposed to feel sad for her? Teamkiller gets teamkilled, serves her right. Don't give me this "she was actually helping us" redemption bullshit, she didn't do anything to stop the plot and was only talking herself up. I spit on her grave>>20414663Unironically the Takemikazuchi is supposed to do that. Nearly every armor surface is a knife, from the shins to the shoulderpads. Doing a roundhouse kick on Tanks is probably standard procedure
>>20414218>That said, isn't it kinda racist to assume just because she's japanese, she knows how to use a katana? I doubt he knows they practice it during basic...Believe it or not, they actually do
>>20414444flat shoulder Raptor is olev though. Everything is "off model" in Alternative and in the case of the F-22 the design significantly changed after the fact.
>>20414884Huh, looks like it was gonna have chest vulcans at some point.
>>20414519TE was animated by Starlight yes, same company behind Symphogear, Macross Frontier/Delta, and Aquarion. Don't know if any of the same staff was on it though
Who did it better?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxKhhMdbU5Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T63WnocViSU
>>20414920*Satelight fuck autocorrect
>>20414925I wonder how much of MLA and ML's soundtracks take from other soundtracks. I know one of the songs is from Starship Troopers
>>20414944There's also the Big O, and Ricky Martin.
>>20414944>I wonderStand a chance pastiche when.
I sat down and started alt, did it from the beginning to the Xm3 demo in one 22 hour sitting and my heart is already weak from mr bones wild ride. Considering the past 2 games have trained me into a chizuru fag when she says "I have no place to go back too" was awfully hard to survive and I want to protect her smile but I feel that's not gonna happen. Or like how takeru doesn't seem to understand that what he's going through is irrevocably changing him to the point where he will not be able to go back to his calm extra-life even if he got the opportunity. The "sumikafagging" of alt is pretty excessive but I think she's second best girl (in extra) so it's ok, even if I think all the betaverse characters are more interesting.
>>20414218>Damn, they really want me to doubt my conviction to Meiya, don't theyYou disappoint me.>>20414713>Redhead is in on itRefresh my memory.
>>20414122I love all versions of Lise
>>20415053She did nothing wrong
>>20415673wonder if the devs think that he looks cool in that faggy looking suit kek.
>Terrorism cont.Of course the mastermind is some Kingdom Hearts-looking fuckboy, and they're all apparently massive religious zealots. Every time the terrorists are onscreen, the lower my opinion of them getsSurprised Indar flight is getting torn apart by russian shitboxes on autopilots, aren't they supposed to be super aces? Also, it took me until now to realzie there's TWO brown terrorist girls, and they're sisters. I thought it was the same person going all over the place.>AmericansAnd here I was thinking it was nice not to have some (((American))) conspiracy in ML for a change. At this point, whenever something goes wrong, you should just look towards the closest American for answers. It's Saturday morning cartoon tier. Hoping they pull a bait and switch and actually the Infinities are doing something else, especially since it seems like their entire mechanic troop got executed by the jihadis.Guessing the new TSFs are gonna be in the soviet hangar. Unless they pull a "They made a knockoff Shiranui", I don't knwo how they're gonna justify Yuuya getting used to it in the couple of episodes remaining.>>20414977The French bar waitress/owner, who wore a hooters uniform and liked to bully Tarisa with her tits. She also sometimes wore a tux when serving as bartender. Last thing that went through her head was a 9mm bullet>>20415673Look at his constipated expression. I always wondered why they let people with impaired vision fly, isn't that a big no-no for the air force? Besides, the glasses probably interfere with the retinal projectors, not to mention they're not staying on when you're pulling high Gs in combat. Remember the juicebox of death? Now imagine it's a bunch of shards of broken glass instead.
>>20415702>isn't that a big no-no for the air forceI don't know about air force, but to be a pilot nobody actually gives a shit, since most of the stuff is done by electronics. And TSFs are the same way desu.
>>20415680The French are known for their sense of style.
>>20415702Interestingly the mastermind of the Terrorists is heavily implied to be a certain MC from another major Muv Luv series. It shouldn't take you long to work out which one.
>>20415759only other MLs I know are TDA and Schwartz, neither of which I know anything about
>>20415799TDA is the continuation of Unlimited where we see exactly how badly Alternative V fucks the planet over. Schwarzesmarken is a prequel set in East Germany in the 1980s, the most grimdark of all the Muv Luv series. TDA is a VN while SM only has an Anime (That's only 12 episodes long, half the length of TE.)
>>20415812I am terrified to see how the Anime ruins the best smug fembro.
>>20415814Then I might as well move onto SW after this, and leave TDA for last (also need to finish the photons, I got a bit distracted)
>>20415814SM "only has an anime" if you are a filthy EOP
>>20415826You could finish SW quickly, but beware, the Anime has the same pacing issues as the current Alt Anime, and like it has no time for characters beyond the main three or so. Also its director didn't know the Stasi were a real thing.
>>20415702They do a good jump of wanking explanations for the way pilots dress but don't think for a moment they were actually designed with realism in mind.Anyways you're allowed to need glasses for 20/20 as long as they're not too strong (and when most of humanity is dead you can imagine the standards would be rather more relaxed) and if guys are okay wearing glasses doing this (or during several G sustained on oval tracks or in up to 100G crashes) I wouldn't worry about it. The pilot suits do have enough around the sides to hold them in place.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oZoqkEjT2c
>>20415702>Unless they pull a "They made a knockoff Shiranui", I don't knwo how they're gonna justify Yuuya getting used to it in the couple of episodes remaining.Yuuya never gets to pilot the Berkut nor does he ever go back to the Raptor, he sticks with the Shiranui Second and its further upgrade through and through. He does get a full squad of Su-47s piloted by quad-amputee espers as backup in the VN's full ending though.
>>20415870Does anyone follow IRL air tech? TE predicted what Japan would be doing for their own fighter almost 6 years in advance.
>>20415838Which 95% of us are, let's not kid ourselves.
>>20415956The fact that they given enough of a shit about EOPs money that they've translated the Trilogy, TDA and shortly TE is kind of neat. Type Moon fans are never going to get the chance to buy an official F/SN release.
>>20416001Most Type Moon fans don't care as long as they can can throw hundreds of dollars at F/GO for the latest gigatitty waifu
>>20415839>Also its director didn't know the Stasi were a real thing.honestly I don't really consider this a huge fault on his part, it's not like they were as famous as the KGB. Everyone heard about them for the first time at some point.
>>20416070When as a result the director backpedals and turns every Stasi character into a generic evil psycho and the rebels as heroic freedom fighters without a single shade of grey (Contrast with the VN, where the Rebels torture captives, shell civilians, call Pham a yellow monkey and act all racist towards her because she's Vietnamese, and had Theo execute Lise in front of everybody to prove his loyalty), then it detracts from what Muv Luv does best: showing that everyone is the hero of their own story and has their own motivations that are often at odds.
>>20416080that wasn't a result of him hearing for the first time about them when reading SM, that was a result of him trying to be too considerate for the people who were spied on and arrested by the Stasi IRL who were still alive.dumb reasoning, but not because he was a DDR historylet.
>Brown girl died in a failed suicide attackHaha, serves you right. Hope your sister dies an equally pointless death>Released BETAYes, I'm sure there's going to be no issue with that plan. As we all know, the BETA are a harmless controllable element that won't just open fire on us right after all the bombers are down. Maybe we get to see a fort-class impale the terrorist chick on live TV, that'd be entertaining>Red Line...This is bad how? It's a perfectly reasonable plan to stop a BETA invasion. What civvies are those bombs gonna kill if the BETA are already there? If anything it'd be a mercy kill. The terrorist plot continues to be retarded and like all terrorists they're clearly being puppeted. They're just netitled little shits, they lost their own countries, other countries take them in and they get mad when they don't get even MORE welfare? And then get mad that money is being spent to fight the beta? Give me a break>Terrorist gets the BerkutNOOOOOO YOU FUCK NOOOO. YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GET THAT, FUCK YOU! GIVE IT BACK YOU ASSHOLE
>>20416107>It's a perfectly reasonable plan to stop a BETA invasion. What civvies are those bombs gonna kill if the BETA are already there?It's going to nuke the Soviet Union and cause a major diplomatic incident
>>20416154hey, if the BETA are already there then you might as well cut your losses. Hell, this show already showed that the Soviets are not opposed to bombing their own bases. Sure some politicians might throw a hissy fit, but that's no real justification for a terror attack
>>20416107>they get mad when they don't get even MORE welfare?Can't remember if the anime did touch on the underlying reason(s) which mainly is that many refugee camps are still squatter shitholes because most of the funding and aid are getting pocketed by the officials placed in charge or are being unfairly distributed due to unchecked internal gang factionalism and almost zero administrative policing. The twins are most assuredly not from a US-administered camp, likely spent their way bouncing across Europe from Turkey before they joined/got picked up by the RLF.
>>20416202well go join the army like everyone else. We're facing an extinction-level threat, why the fuck are you sabotaging the factions that give you even the smallest amount of help´? Even if they only gave you a crowded tin shed and one loaf of bread a week, it's better than what you would've gotten without them, thankless fucks
>>20416080It's a 12 episode anime adaption of a 9 volume, 400 pages each light novel I don't know what kind of subtlety and nuance you're expecting there's enough running time to keep in anyways? It had to cover about 4x as much text per episode as Total Eclipse and 12x as much as 86's first season apparently.
Is there any chance that Yuuhi will be voiced by the original Meiya seiyuu?
Forgot to ask before, but watching TE I noticed the ACTIVE has an extra pair of boosters where the back pylons would be. Is that something speicifc to the active meant to represent the canards and thrust vectoring? Or is it just optional equipment for all TSFs and we only see the ACTIVE using them? Also, they mentioned the raptor has supercruise capabilities. What does that mean for a TSF? Because if they can cruise at supersonic speeds that's really fucking impressive, I was under the impression that TSFs were much slower than aircraft
>>20416270>12x as much as 86's first season apparently.That makes sense given that 86's first season adapted a single volume that's about 250 pages long in 11 episodes. For reference, S2 is 12 episodes adapting vols 2 and 3, which total out to around 400 pages combined
>>20416368>Is that something speicifc to the active meant to represent the canards and thrust vectoring?Aside from also making it a GP03S knockoff, yeah.>>20416397It's 340 in the Japanese edition since they are using a significantly smaller page format, I just only heard it covering the first volume from unreliable second hand as I haven't gotten to watching the anime version yet.One of those fucking dumb things that we tend to get LNs in larger page sizes and manga in smaller page sizes compared to Japan.
>>20415702>Last thing that went through her head was a 9mm bulletToo soon.
Right this is where I classify that Active Eagle is a huge outlier in Muv-Luv because instead of having a basic design done by boss man and cleaned up by another artist it was done from the ground up by Fujirou, who was kind of only known for doujin work for a long time but I didn't know did some of the work on the kikaiju for Mazinger Infinity and is done of the designers for Alice Gear Aegis since.
>>20416107Your callous bloodthrist disgusts me.
fuck project mikhail, what a piece of shit. my desperation for a muv luv actual game clouded my judgement and I bought it. Why did they even bother making this garbage?
>>20416586They were counting on you to be a dumbass
Is it really correct to call Meiya nationalistic or patriotic when her worldview and attitude towards how the people of Japan ought to be governed is rooted in feudal aristocratic farthuffing rather than a mandate derived directly from the nation itself
It’s been a while since I posted my thoughts on the game after the twizzlers incident with Sumika due to the holidays and all so hope you’re all ready for some more of my thoughts on the game. I’ve got this to help me on this journey. Let’s go.
Damn after making love to our toaster now we're at DEFCON 2!? Holy shit.
>>20416624From here the ride never stops. Buckle up boyo.
damn we had sex too good so we broke out Sumika.
>>20416597Japanese people think everything they didn't import is some sort of special Japanese thing.
Whoa this is a cool tracking shot with the camera following Kasumi while we talk. This is cool.
Who the heck is Gotou and his unit?
Does anyone have a screenshot of the whole "Japanese schoolgirls with D cup tits/skintight bodysuits" or however it was worded? I lost mine.
WHOA, what the hell is this, Susano-0 2 already?
>>20416714I think it was a rumor about BETA experiments they brought up during Unlimited, it was fairly short.
>>20416714Back in unlimited they mention he defected to the USA, and possibly developed the G bomb
Man you guys are dumb. You only had 20 minutes, did you really think Yuuko would talk that shortly during one of her exposition dumps? What was your plan guys.
>>20416751you can't expect the mad scientist to skip over bragging about her super robot, cut her a break
>>20416761true, she truly represents /m/. Man you guys are fucked if the BETA are learnning military tactics. That was one of the few things you had over them. It's over guys.
>>20416721What the FUCK is this spelling?
YOOOOO BEST GIRL IS HERE AND KILLING FOOLS LEFT AND RIGHT HOLY SHIT!
>>20416783And you thought she was gone. There's plenty of Tsukuyomi GOAT moments left
>>20416790HELL YEAH! And oof, F to Hermit for sacrificing themselves even thought it didn't do much in the end. Shit sucks.
Wow, their sacrifice only lead to more trouble for everyone in the end. That's real sadistic of you writers.
>>20416801>That's real sadistic of you writers.You havent seen nothing yet
You really need a self-destruct button for moments like this not just for Hive dives.
>>20416809They do have one, aside from the S-11. Well, it's more like overloading the shit out of the engines, but still. What's really going on here is that pilots get too scared to eject, because they know on foot they're pretty fucked, but right now they're "safe" inside the metal cockpit. Basically a panic attack, happens a lot over ML
>>20416810As fucked up as it sounds they really should have an auto-eject or auto-self destruction sequence if the pilot loses it and isn't able to make the most logical desicion. You're fighting against the BETA so anything to win at this point. Also surprised by the lack of turrets or auto-turrets surrounding the base. Just generally surprised at how weak the base if defense wise. You'd think they'd have made a defense structure that would counter the Beta in some way like castles do. Why not have TSF placed up along high walls to take out BETA that run into the base like the tactic that was used against them during Sado with the stealth. Or just general turrets, mines, or mortars that could be used against the BETA. Guess they don't have many supplies after the Sado Hive invasion?
Well at least they acknowledge their tactical deployment suck here. Gonna assume it's their defenses against the BETA for defense.
>>20416831They do have auto eject, but pilots often disable it for the same reasons I mentioned. AS for defenses, remember not long ago the base had already been attacked by BETA (CHOMP) so everythign was still pretty fucked. Not to mention they didn't expect BETA to show up so close or use tactics, remember that they can only come from Sado and the final defense line is way closer to Sadogashima. Remember when a group came out of Sadogashima and had to trek halfway across Japan to reach Yokohama base, getting taken out along the way? That's what's supposed to happen
>>20416836man it all comes back to Yuuko's staged attack. Honestly think it's caused more trouble than it was worth it at this point. Couldn't see have just released some of the weaker BETA to make people panic, but not kill so many of them and save the structural integrity of the base? Seems like she went overboard. And these guys are so dead. Anyone in a TSF that's this overconfident is meant to die quickly.
>>20416846I share your opinion about Yuuko's attack, but it helps to humanize her in my eyes. She's not perfect, sometimes her plans don't work out. I hated for a while specifically because she seemed to be causing more harm than good
>>20416852that's a good point, but can't really see the good in it at the moment seeing how bad things are going. These TSF really need some BETA window wipers or something to blow these things away.
>>20416864The most modern TSFs have "blade armor", essentially knives all over the place exactly for this reason. The Takemikazuchi is the prime example, nearly every edge in the armor is sharpened super carbon
>>20416782I always see my Sumika derp posted but Kazama or Chizuru never. Ten fucking years and this is the first time.
>>20416870Jeez. Meiya really should've used her Take TSF by now for this reason alone. Fuck all of her honor or whatever bullshit things just can't get worse than this. I don't know how they're going to survive this mess when things keep getting worse by the minute.
>>20416894I can't get enough of the TKMZ's open hand pose, it's like the mech itself is smug. Is it based on any real aircraft or is it 100% fanfic?
>>20416864These motherfuckers give me the goosebumps
The BETA are playing 4D Chess while we're still playing checkers. What the hell is going on now? They have intelligence all of a sudden? Guess they're getting serious now at the endgame.
The hero has arrived in the nick of time. Time to counter attack these BETA fucks!
>>20416897>Is it based on any real aircraft or is it 100% fanfic?Fanfic. Closest one we ever had to TSF based on real life Japanse Aircraft was concept art Kouki did for Mitsubishi X-2/ADT-X/Shinshin
>>20416923Does he take requests at cons and design those live? That's the coolest shit ever if that's the case
Didn't expect Haruka to join the fight. You better not harm her game. I swear... She's suffered enough.
YO THE BOYS ARE HERE TO SAVE THE DAY LET'S GOOOOOOOO!!
>>20416925Unfortunately no. He just sometimes throws some breadcrumbs and meat scraps to keep Muv-Luv alive between long periods of content drought.On the con were he showed ATD-X he also teases concept art of A-12 Avenger, PAK-FA, MiG 1.44 and J-20. It's cool but I don't know if we ever going to see these in any MLA game, maybe with exemption of Project Immortals if we get lucky and they give good justification for these Mech to exist. Otherwise it would be Game play and Story segregation were they are just for fanservice and in the story itself these TSF don't exist.BTW I don't even know how and why ATD-X would even be considered bu Imperial Japan if they already doing Shiranui Second as main focus of their involvement in Project Prominence. Why would US ever want aid development of Stealth TSF tech with any nation? Only reason I can imagine is to monitor progress, steal some ideas and sabotage their rivals. Stealth TSF don't work against BETA.
>>20416949Is this image of the J-20 from that con?
>>20416949can you post them? I'd love to see the PAK-FA. Also, if they were sticking close to reality every future TSF would look like a bootleg raptor, so it's fine if they just do these "fanservice" designs IMHO. Most of these planes have existed in the planning stage for decades IRL, so you could just say the BETA invasion moved the timeline up and they made some one-off testing prototypes or something. In Japan's case, it's as easy as saying "This noble house secretly backed this other project to look better when their product is superior" or something
>>20416950Jup. Same one.I wish he just made another fan book with rest of them. Maybe throw in some other TSF like BAE Tempest and others.
>>20416953Not sure if this is a fan design or not, but here you go.
>>20416953Here's PAK-FA before becoming designated as Su-57
YO we got voice acting and fast combat going down this shaft. Holy shit this is rad. The both of you rock!
>>20416953>>20416960MiG-1.44 Honestly I always had weird soft spot for MiG's. I dunno why I just really like their crude looks.
>>20416958Oh I love this. a shame it's fanart, it looks sick as hell>>20416960is this the best pic we've got?>>20416962When they fire the 4 guns at once, an angel gets its wings.Isn't Storm Vanguard supposed to carry a sword though? Minor plothole I guess
>>20416953And here is the Avenger.
>>20416968You cheeky fucker, of course it looks exactly the same as >>20416950
The hell is this? Looks like some crazy shit for a reactor. And a new cool track just started playing.
>>20416970It's like Battle 7 had a son
>>20416969>is this the best pic we've got?Best pictures I have. I tried but couldn't find better ones. maybe some other anon have better picture.
>>20416957I would love to see a TSF version of the newest Russian Jet.
>>20416977I can't stress enough how much I hate modern design trends. Every modern jet looks like an inbred raptor, can't wait for radar to get good enough to make stealth obsolete so we go back to more varied shapes
Just finished Alternative. The credits are rolling at this very moment. I wont speak about the ending since this anon is posting about it right now and I dont want to spoil it. I just want to say that the ending did not satisfy me
>>20416976Here you are
>>20416987OH. So there was a fan book with them?Which one was it?
Come on game, please leave her alone. I thought she'd be the one to make it out of this alive...
>>20417003That's no way to get ahead in life
alright game now you've made it personal. Fuck you and fuck these BETA fucks.
>>20417007She might be okay, Maybe that's just her lipstick
>>20417003>>20417007Ha ha time for despair
F fuck you BETA
>>20417013they're guarding the entrance to heaven now, goodnight sweet princes. I totally shipped them, they had an adoptive son named Carlos
>>20416996She suffered less in Alt than she did in KimoNozo.
IF YOU KILL BEST GIRL I WILL SCREAM IN RAGE. FUCK YOU BETA FUCKS GO MANA AND CUT THESE BASTARDS TO PIECES.
>>20416991https://ec.toranoana.jp/tora_r/ec/item/040030382601/It's from an even rarer book than the Lunatic Dawns.
>>20417027I suspected that much. Fuck.These things are harder to find than Holy Grail, Ark of Covenant and city Eldorado combined. And when they are available they are sold as Premium. I wish their content get a rerelese under different art book or something.
Jesus christ is this the fuck KimiNozo section of the game? The fuck man.
Jesus Christ game. Can things get even worse from here?
gOD DAMNIT GAME GIVE ME A BREAK.
>>20417052There are no brakes from here to the end. You're on the wild ride now.
>>20417052>He thinks he's about to make it?>Tank it
3 posts to image limit. Make your images count!
>>20406169There is only one thing to say about geopolitics - the world belongs to the Yankees from now on and forever. Eurasia has been devoured and the United States, in principle, is not expected to have opponents, and pathetic attempts at independence, given the critical dependence of the remaining countries on Washington, are simply ridiculous.For example, Japan, in the course of the plot, is a kind of spherical horse in a vacuum, there are no refugees from the continent (but what a tragedy was inflated due to the evacuation of the volcano), there is no interaction with Island China and the Bering Soviet Union (it's not surprising that the Murricans do what they want), coordination with the UN army is disgusting, despite the fact that the Japanese troops themselves do not shine (the Germans from the Eurofront coped much better), the government system is overcomplicated by the shogunate and the guard, creating unnecessary and useless parallels in the leadership and pulling so limited resources on themselves, and then they wonder why Japan is in such a "difficult" situation, despite the development of "Shiranui" with a truly Japanese spirit?..Is this stupidity or treason?
>>20417073did he ever see her again?
>>20417077>shitposting on page 9ok
o7 Thank you for everything.
>>20417083good final image. Someone make the new thread
TAKERU YELLING AT THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS SAYING GOD DAMNIT IS FUCKING GREAT AND HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW. WHY CAN'T I SAVE ANYONE!?! FUCK THESE BETA
>>20417083Mitsuki might have lived in KimiNozo, but her spirit was broken there. Here she kept it to the bitter end.
>>20417092Man, this montage would mean a whole lot more if most of these characters hadn't been introduced in the last third of the last third of the trilogy. RIP, Redshirt Brigade.
I'll stop here for tonight with them taking care of the injuries Well shit's fucked and I don't see how we'll save humanity at this rate. F to all the Valkyries that lost their lives and will go to Valhalla after a long fought battle.
>>20417115Most of them had been introduced in prior Age VNs. To the Japanese Age fan who'd read KimiIta and KimiNozo, they were not just redshirts, but characters the reader had come to know over multiple hours of reading.
>>20417116Make your death count
>>20417128I know. It's still dumb.
>>20417115I feel enough there are enough moments written for Isumi, Haruka, and Mitsuki for me to care about them. I’ll agree about the rest though.
>>20417142It's more we EOPs never got the authentic Muv Luv experience.
Isn't there a game about one of the valkyries that's like 90% her fucking her brother or something? I forgot which one
>>20417152I think the idea the majority of the Muv-Luv audience played a relatively obscure 8 year older game in a distinctly different sub-genre is kind of absurd.
>>20417115I think that MLA did great job of introducing Valkiries and make them likable and memorable even if you didn't know about kiminozo. It made easier to self insert into Takeru who also had very little time to know Valkiries but still managed to form a bond with them.It also fits the setting were attrition rate of pilots is so big it's not usual for being transferred to squadrons and flights and lose some or all your comrades in the next mission just after getting to know them after few days or weeks. Makes me very well understand how Marimo must have felt.In MLA surviving more than couple of years years with the same crew you begun must be an exception among exemptions.
>>20417154Those games were really popular in japan, so they're not THAT obscure, but you're still right.It doesn't matter if they're popular or not. Imagine if this was a western trilogy and you introduced Batman and Han Solo as main characters in the third part.>>20417158I have things to say about this, but there's probably newfags in this conversation, so...You're right that they're handled fairly well, though. Some of them, at least.
>>20417154keep in mind the original ML didn't advertise unlimited, it was a surprise. So most players would go in expecting more Kiminozo
>>20417158To put things into perspective, Marimo was an ace of aces after less than 10 years fighting, and she'd lost her swuad many times over
>>20417163God damn, that must have been so amazing.
>>20417171until you have to wait years for MLA to come out. Imagine if the last thing you see is the Yuuko route that's basically a huge "mission failed, we'll get em next time"
>>20417079Probably? IIRC she survives and leads the Valkyrie Squadron post-Alternative, so she still has an opportunity to dump her literally who jap for based Italian.
>>20417195Speak english, the official UN language
>>20417183Imagine waiting years for that ending, lmao.
>>20417200Scheiβe Englisch! Casse-toi! Sois pourri! T'es une batarde!t.Bernadette
>>20417194The Six Million Euro Man. Quite literally.
I'm behind the other guy reading alt, I'm only to the PTSD arc, but maan they're really hammering home how he can't go back home even if he's home in a way I never really expected for a visual novel, finally the cute extra days are comming back to really haunt this poor takeru. this is some "ending in ROTK" level of misery. “But I have been too deeply hurt, Sam. I tried to save the Shire, and it has been saved, but not for me. It must often be so, Sam, when things are in danger: some one has to give them up, lose them, so that others may keep them.”
>>20417260oh man, you're in for a ride
>>20417264it already is making me miserable in a good way, it can only get worse(better) from here!
>>20417278how far into PTSD are you? Remember to only look at (You)s, because HEAVY spoilers are thrown around here
>>20417283he's just now meeting marimo in extraverse again and the music is swelling oh god no takeru you're going to irrevocably ruin your extraverse and your alternative is going to be ruined when they forget about you too aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah yea I know about the you's, I'm too easily engrossed in this shit to really get hit by the spoilerinos, I knew about CHOMP, and even laughed at her using it in conversation before it happens and yet I had to take a little break when it happened.
>>20417296I believe MLA is as close as a once in a lifetime experience you can get with anime, so I'd say try to avoid spoilers anyways to fully enjoy the ride
>>20416992That is one suave mech.
>>20417296"Jinguuji-sensei was seen eating with another man"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>20417322welcome to Alternative, enjoy your stay
>>20417322All these memes, now you know what it is.
>>20417260>>20417296>>20417322I am enjoying your suffering. This is for you:>>20417333>>20417333>>20417333
>>20406207I can't believe they defiled Mana this way.
>>20417162Kiminozo was a hit but I don't think Kimiita was exactly the second coming of Christ.
>>20410404So its not just me? The colors look really muted and off. Looks really cheap (even before we mention the "quality").