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This Mecha Scifi Horror, Set the same world with Gaogaigar.
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Is there anything actually connecting Betterman to GaoGaiGar besides the novel and FINAL?
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>>20368829
A few cameo's by bit characters. A kid that resembles one of Mamoru's friends (I think they bring up he has brothers), and a vague reference to GGG via fun house mirrors.
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>>20368848
>A kid that resembles one of Mamoru's friends (I think they bring up he has brothers)

Oldest work with GGG.
Middle is Keita's friend.
Young is Mamoru's friend.
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>>20368829
The Chief is another of Ryger's kids, thus Lune's stepbrother and Gai's cousin.
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Sounds like Betterman was made from the beginning to be tied to GaoGaiGar
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>>20368874
Well, yes? It is made by mostly the same team and they had a sequel called Project Z planned, thus Grand Glorious Gathering exists where Betterman lore is explained and Gai "meets" Lamia for the first time.
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>>20368829
There's a lot of connections if you're willing to dig deep into the lore, it's just that none of it is presented as essential to seeing the other but for example, Mic Sounders attacks are based on research gathered from Betterman Nebula. There's the aforementioned character relationships, and another is Keita's buddy's brother is one of the GGG bridge crew and even gives him some of that mirror coating they use to make the funhouse mirrors later in BM. There's even a part were the BM mechs get an upgrade sent by Akamatsu's "old man" who is from GGG. A big one is Keita himself being revealed to have brain tissue donated from the dead sister of the dead mushroom lady from GGG FInal. A bunch of former Zonderized humans show up in the background too. There's a lot you could list.
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>>20368908
Been playing srw 30, when they mentioned mic sounders weapon was based on nebula I faced palmed and thought “of course!”
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SHE CAN'T FIND A ... BETTERMAN!
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>>20368874
Betterman was conceived first and GGG was made to tie in to it.
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>>20368978
There's a cool fight in Hakaioh involving that exact thing
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>>20368825
This was the kind of premise you could only get away with in the 90's. Despite that it was a fucking ride and that last twist is both bullshit but actually makes perfect sense if you think about it.
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>>20369067
Not to sound dismissive of the present format but some scenes just need to be done in an audio video format
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BDMV got uploaded
https://nyaa.si/view/1456256
Most already knew, but it's shit.
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If I recall this was one of the first anime if not the first to got to the 16:9 ratio widescreen that we pretty much see today.
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>>20368908
>A bunch of former Zonderized humans show up in the background too.

I know I saw the pizza delivery girl drive by Asami in one scene. Any others you can point out?
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>>20368848

Which reference?
I never actually saw GGG but i never took notice to any allusions to something related to another series.
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Ugly hair
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>>20374939

The mirrors are made using the same Mirror Coating that GGG uses for its weaponry. I rewatched the series recently and the GaoGaiGar references are a lot more blatant than I remembered.
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>>20368825
Brigadoon is also supposed to be set in the same world, but the connections are a lot more vague since that show is set in like the 60's or something
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>>20368825
>HD never ever
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>>20375170
>Brigadoon is also supposed to be set in the same world, but the connections are a lot more vague since that show is set in like the 60's or something
Is that so? I don't know too much about Brigadoon other than it looks interesting. I still haven't gotten around to it yet.
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>>20374963

Thanks for pointing that out.
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>>20375202

Bluray was released last year asnt it?
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>>20372996
How shit we talking about here? Because the releases we had prior weren't exactly super great either.
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>>20374960
Ugly post
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>>20375695
There are sample images in the comments of that, it honestly doesn't seem that much better than previous encodes but there aren't ugly black bars anymore
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>>20376741
That's.... something. Good lord why do so few people care about visual fidelity.
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>>20375679
>Bluray was released last year asnt it?

Yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pns8rrPj4Aw
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You keep calling it horror but it's not scary at all.
It's fully of stupid anime humour and obari-esque fanservice, nobody dies, and the only legit frightening thing in the entire series is titular betterman who is pretty much the tuxedo mask of the entire show.
It has cool monster designs, but mechs and characters are ugly as fuck.
SRW30 would be better off just with bettermen and grown up Mamoru.
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>>20381915
>nobody dies
Well you're confirmed not watching the show. Synapse attack.
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>>20381915

Nigga you trollin?
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>>20382151
>background bridge dude whose name we don't even get till after he dies randomly

It's hilarious how this is the only death that had any form of impact whatsoever in the show, to the point it showed up in Hakaioh. Everything else is random people with blacked out faces who we know nothing about. It's honestly pretty terrible as a "horror". You can't make me even remotely scared when Not!Dark Magician Girl here is bumblefucking her way in pitch black blob backgrounds while calling herself a retard and Keita on the other side being a retarded mongoloid that escaped from an early 80's romcom.
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>>20382419

So, i take it you didnt like the show then?
Its ok that many of the concepts on thr show, like the blacked out and featureless faces thru out the show, were too difficult for you to understand we cant all be big brained in this world.
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>>20381915
>nobody dies
What the hell are you talking about, 80% of the cast dies in the final battle. They carpet bomb the fuck out of Akamatsu Industries.
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>>20382496
You're trying too hard to look too deep into a mecha comedy with vaguely spooky themes.
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>>20382419
Yeah you basically just got proved to not having seen it.
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Remind me, was Kankel always around or was it created by the Dive Inspection?
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>>20382622
Always around, made worse
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Why the fuck do people always say that the show didn't explain Algernon or Bettermen when there's literally an exposition dump on what both of them are near the end?
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>>20382622

Kankle or Algernon? Algernon already existed it was given it's name at the start of the Betterman series. Kankle was created via the Dive Inspection which also created vectors to spread the Algernon disease more.
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>>20383759
Don't rape Hinoki.
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>>20382622
Kankel was a new thing, like cancer to the planet
Algernon is the planet's immunoreaction to it
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>nobody important dies
>YOU DIDNT WATCH THE SHOW
>ok who dies?
>
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>>20383932
the lovey dovey couple in the show's only shocking moment and the megane doc in a complete fucking asspull
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>>20383932

Uhh...

everybody but lamia, keita, hinoki, mr akumatsu, chandi and sho and kaiede baby dies.

Did you even watch the show?

>>20383982

That was mostly unexpected and really put a dark cloud over the remaining episodes.
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>>20384683
>everybody but named characters who actually matter
k
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>>20384734

Three main characters die. One of whom was there right from the start. As far as like the core cast goes, that is a pretty small total compared to some other shows. Still, their deaths were pretty rough.

Synapse Attack.
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>>20384750
They went out in pretty cruel ways.
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I want to have sex with Hinoki's hair
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>>20384779
Do the carpets match the drapes?
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>>20384785
Definitely
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>>20384734

Sounds like nothing will satisfy you lust to discredit this show because you didnt "get" it.
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>>20384861
MOLE!
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>>20384869
Keita does alright sometimes
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>>20384869
What could have been if he his handheld was on mute.
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always getting cockblocked
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>>20384913

Stupid sexy hinoki
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>>20384913
Stupid sexy school festivals.
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>>20384925
stupid sexy outdoors.
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>>20384861
God, everything to do with those made my skin crawl. It actually made the hospital ep worse on a rewatch.
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>>20368908
Do you have to watch GaoGaiGar before watching this show to get it?
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>>20385379
Not really the connections are just nice Easter Eggs. Ultimately the show is dealing with freaky planetary cancer not robotic space aliens.
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>>20385379
No, in technicality you need to have an understanding in basic biology to get the gist of some of the themes in Betterman.
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>>20386172
Of all the things that happened in this series, bladder cancer was the most "that's BULLSHIT but I believe it" moment
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>>20386191
Are you talking about the second Brahman being a giant sentient urinary bladder.Yeah I remember that reveal.
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>>20375170
>but the connections are a lot more vague
What are the connections?
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>>20384869
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>>20386233
I can only remember one, and it's that the American assistant to the Leo looking guy is called Mike and sounds exactly like Mic. If we take the shows year into account and assume he married the smoking hot chick from the apartment complex, the ages of Swan (assuming she's closer to 23-25 during GGG) and her brother match up pretty well to their appearance in GGG (assuming they didn't get their first kid until the late 70's).
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>>20386272
Forgot to add that his full name is Mike White, which I believe you only see briefly in one shot.
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>>20386283
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>>20386217
I refuse to believe Keita didn't fuck Hinoki every day, and had over 4 kids by the time Hakaioh happens.
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>>20385379
You don't.
There are a couple of fun references in Betterman that will get a giggle out of you if you're a GGG fan.
However, DON'T watch GGG Final before you've seen Betterman.
GGG Final came out after Betterman and contains serious Betterman spoilers.
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>>20387413
Well knowing how Hinoki is the smarter one of the two with her being a bioengineer and Keita being an electronic sales man, she probably had him wear protection before letting him have her body.
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>>20380767
And no-one has ripped it yet.
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>>20387617

Aint nobody got time fo dat.
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>>20387414
>However, DON'T watch GGG Final before you've seen Betterman.
>GGG Final came out after Betterman and contains serious Betterman spoilers.

TV ver only.
Lamia doesn't appear in OVA Ver
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>>20387564
Also, Keita is a responsible young man who wanted to have his own house and a stable source of income before officially starting a family.
I'm 99% sure they started breeding like rabbits right after the events of Hakaiou.
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>>20383932
The majority of the important characters end up dead what are you talking about retard. You can just admit you didn't watch the show
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>>20387768
>>20387617
>>20380767
>>20375679
The Blu-Ray was confirmed to be an upscale. Its the same blurry mess as the DVDs.
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>>20397100

I was perfectly happy with my shady 5th gen copy bootlegs untill the vcr done ate them.
Low quality tv dark really lent to the spooky and horror aspect you cant get with high quality.
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>>20394685
Speaking of that, was there any mention of Oltos previously in the side material or was it just a case of "this is the last ep; we have to deal with Kankel somehow?"
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I totally forgot about Aqua form
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Just pointing out this series had a one volume manga based off the anime.
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>>20398199
Such is the fate of water specialist forms.
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>>20398420

Was it any good?
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>>20398199
ah yes the Getter 3 of Betterman
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>>20399047
It's extremely short
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>>20399047
It condenses the story to fit one voluem and some notable differences with Chandy not being a big part and the deaths of Sho and Keade are different from the anime.
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>>20400026

> Sho and Keade are different from the anime.

In what way, if you dont mind spoiling it for me.
not that it matters to me but probably should have used a spoiler for that one.
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>>20400181
They just get shredded by Brahman I had to reread it to notice died
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>>20400226

Interesting...
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Who win Kankel or Final Gaogaigar
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>>20401598
Isn't this answered in SRW30? The real question is could radiation work on Kankel like in real life?
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>>20401598

Kankel vs the GGG bots is interesting because it kind of stalemates because Kankel attacks why infecting a biological with fast acting rapid cancer that quickly disintegrates it's victim. See how he killed Turba, Pachira, and Seeme. The GGG bots are inorganic machines making them immune to him, but at the same time the only way to kill him is to eradicate all his cells otherwise he'll regenerate. So while he can't kill the braves, they probably cant kill him either. The one who has the best chance is Mic with Disc X's solitary wave.
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>>20401598
did they ever address why Kankel was so homicidal? I mean, besides the usual sour grapes nonsense about death actually being a good thing because evolution?
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>>20402140
As the effective end point of evolution, I think he was trying to keep anyone else from making the same mistake. Such is why Yakusugi took such umbrage with the Superhuman Federation.
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Did anybody else like the soundtrack?
Felt really well made for the shows theme.
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To the GGG boys, what chapters are these highlights from? 49 episodes is just too much
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>>20402140
LITERALLY CANCER
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>>20402947
>Microwave fridge blaster
Episode 1
>Ninja robots
Episodes 10-14
>Hammer Hell
Episodes 18/21
>Save the City
Technically every episode, but likely referring to 27-29
>Fuck!/Hells Yeah!
Episode 30
>Noooo/Whaaaa
Episode 31
>Mooons
Episode 45(Whoever made messed up the order of things or this forgot the Arm Primeval initially used a battleship form)
Dinosaurs...Jesus
Episode 42
>final image with GGG standing over Zonuda
Episodes 48-49

I highly advise against using this as a must watch list btw unless you want a disjointed af experience.
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>>20403412
Hell yeah just watched 30 episodes in one sitting. This show goes hard
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>>20402140
Kankel is literally a cancer on a planetary scale. Why is cancer homicidal?
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>>20404782
>Why is cancer homicidal?
Discrimination.
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Redpill me on the day of patria, what does it have to do with the day of pasca?
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>>20382515
no, NEO carpet bombs Mode Warp (one of its subsidiaries) after everyone at Mode Warp becomes infected with Algernon.
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None of this show made any goddamn sense
its so clear they just made shit up as they went along
quoting the final episode:
>algernon is a mechanism that summons Betterman as an immune agent stemming from the animus flower that grows when people die in a certain way
when people die in a certain way? wtf? didnt they explain that the flowers are from people infected with algernon? and isnt algernon from kankel? therefore the bettermen which are thousands of years old can only reach their fighting forms when consuming cancerfruit from a thing thats only 120 years old? oh of course not that makes no sense, nevermind, the flowers just bloom "under special conditions" aka we made shit up as we went

and since all the scientists carrying algernon were supposed to be doing it to instinctually warn the "body"/world of the "cancer"/kankel then why did algernon keep trying to kill betterman? why did algernon kill people? that makes no sense. thats like your body calling on t-cells by trying to kill the t-cells. what kind of immune response is just to kill nearby cells? even as a biology metaphor it makes no fucking sense
also algernon disappears as a plot element for like 10 episodes there in the middle, until they awkwardly force it back in.
also the purple gel is like 20 different contradictory things. sometimes its a seperate branch of life, sometimes its psychic gel, sometimes its magic. its just "plot gel"
literally everything that happens in this show is deus ex machina. half the time they dont even show you whats happening or what happened. they just cut to black and then "exposition" dump the next episode to make sense of it while simultaneously contradicting earlier plot threads

its honestly pathetic that GGG makes more sense than this show. only good thing about betterman is fapping to Hinoki and even then theres no anal porn of her because the show is too old.
total letdown.
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also how could the buddhist monk be kankel? he directly works against kankels interests at several points and saves or helps betterman
it was like the writers forgot all the plotpoints and just wanted a stupidass scooby doo moment
goofy ass show
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>>20410285

He lost his memories, and was unaware that he became kankel. The only part i couldnt "make out" was when he knew kankel was appearing at the organ harvesting facility and dove into the water to stop it.
Kankel isnt a "specific" individual to the bettermen, he is their enemy what ever that may be at the time, which just happens to be what yakisuki became after the dive inspection.
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>>20410285
He wasn't intentionally Kankel and Kankel really had no will or goal. He helps them out against all kinds of stuff but you notice he never actually faced Kankel itself. He didn't know what he was till the last second. Worm guy and Brahman had their own objectives separate from Kankel.
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>>20410280

> why did algernon kill people?

Algernon never actually killed anyone infected with it. They always died from something else going on.

> also algernon disappears as a plot element for like 10 episodes there in the middle, until they awkwardly force it back in

Because the dr. umazaki, mamon and superhuman federation were responsible for what was occuring at that time.
From the beginning algernon was always actually the background issue they were dealing with.

Linker gel was always a non defined object in the show untill the end, it wasnt any of the things you mentioned.

> its honestly pathetic that GGG makes more sense than this show. only good thing about betterman is fapping to Hinoki and even then theres no anal porn of her because the show is too old.
total letdown

You probably werent old enough to be around when there was porn of her.
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>>20368825
You are just reminding me of all the Takehiro Kimura artbooks I have.

They really should have an SRW with Sora Kake Girl, Code Geass, Betterman, GGG, Gunsword, Godannar, and Brigadoon. It's not like most of those were already in previous games.
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>>20411629
Awesome taste, anon.
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>>20381915
>obari-esque fanservice
I'm about halfway through, and I haven't seen anything particularly racy outside of some kind-of skimpy outfits and one or two sex gags.
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>>20411629
I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, Godannar should be a damn perennial.
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>>20411895
From memory, which could be completely wrong, the only blatant fanservice (ignoring the diver suits) are a few scenes of Hinoki's and the Tyran's pilots tits moving around while being knocked around in their units, and a few scenes sprinkled through out the show . The one that stuck with me was one where Hinoki and that chick with huge knockers that worked for Akamatsu, try fending off some worms inside Akamatsu industries.
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>>20411629
Variable Geo needs a comeback
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>>20402001
Goldy should be able to kill him right?

Cant imagine he'd out regen a matter eraser
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>>20412330
It's hard to bounce back when you've been reduced to dissipating sub atomic particles.
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>>20412236
Yeah, I'm past that, and didn't even notice the bouncing tits. I feel like all the disgusting tapeworms would have killed any arousal that scene would have caused. Is that seriously as far as it goes?
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>>20412643
Was that before or after the giant slug worms that crawl into people's mouths?
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>>20411629
Excellent collection, I only have first Viper book so far
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>>20413119

Them hanging out of peoples mouths when controlling them is a great for the creepy factor.
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>>20412248

Yes, yes it does.
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>>20413200
Thanks. I haven't really picked anything up in years. Miss the publication industry.

>>20412230
100% this. It's really everything you want from a series in SRW: Fun cast, lots of different machines, tons of easily mookable enemies.

>>20412248
>>20414140
Not /m/, but yeah. I totally agree.

>>20413119
>>20413240
I had totally forgotten about mouth bugs.


Totally off topic: Have some more /m/ related printed books.
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>>20415208
I mean the whole thing is just a massive love letter to the super robot genre as a whole and it would fit almost seamlessly into any combination of series. The Memetic beasts aren't gonna give two shits about Dr Hell or Britania.
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I went through Grand Glorious Gathering so you don't have to. The Betterman relevant stuff happens in

E03 - 3:02 ~ 3:40
E05 - 12:50 ~ 22:09
E08 - 11:15 ~ 11:20
E11 - 21:55 ~ 22:14
E12 - 17:40 ~ 18:06
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>>20415957

> tfw you dont have to watch a whole show to get a few references now.
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>>20381915
The fuck? Then what about all those dead people lying around, all Bettermen apart of Lamia dying to Kankel and some of the guys like Umezaki and Mamon dying on screen (and in Mamon's case all the girls dying to give him his monstrous form)? Not to mention half of the human cast dying? At least Kaede's and Shou's kid somehow survived...magically...his mom desintegrating along with his dad in a Neuronoid explosion and in the end picked up by Chandi.
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>>20417347
See I always thought the baby was implied to be a reborn monk or something
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>>20417347
Don't forget, it wasn't until recently that we learned that Hinoki and Keita weren't infected at the end, the show made it ambiguous if they were laughing after surviving their ordeal or if they ended up contracting Algernon"
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>>20418494
No it didn't.
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>>20418458
>See I always thought the baby was implied to be a reborn monk or something
Really?
>>20418494
Nah. They were just damn happy they actually survived this mad climax.
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>>20418699
There was plenty of discussion on that for before Hakaioh came out, they were also notably absent in Final/GGG despite most of the surviving cast making cameos. The scene is shown several times and it gives the impression that something was off. At the very end, it does seem more hopeful but Keita's there laughing like a lunatic before Hinoki joins in a more normal laugh (though I'd need to check previous episodes because I remember Hikoki laughing weirdly in one of them).
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I really dont understand how people thought they might have had algernon in the end and thats why they were laughing.
The situation they were in just prior to that would have anyone laughing hysterically if they "suddenly" werent.
I would be more inclined to believe they didnt get off the ocean floor and actually died down there and their part at the end was actually a dream or vision of heaven playing on the very beginning of the show than that they might have had algernon.

>>20418728

> she laughs weirdly

The episode where they go to dr umazaki are under the pheromones is probably what your thinking of.
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>>20419492
Because despite all of the Dive Inspection crew dying, Algernon itself wasn't actually taken care of. And given that Keita had some of the longest interaction with a known carrier, the ending paints an ambiguous picture.
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>>20418728
>There was plenty of discussion
There was no such thing.
>also notably absent in Final/GGG despite most of the surviving cast making cameos.
Because main characters showing up stands out more than a couple of side characters in work overalls.
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The scene right before the beach scene has mr akumatsu ask sakura about algernon still existing.
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>>20419640
>There was no such thing.
Just because you weren't around when they happened, doesn't mean they never did. And fantastic argument, all your reponses are non-answers. Meanwhile >>20419492 this guy's trying to support his claim.
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>>20420327
I was around when it happened. Nothing happened. Betterman threads were always few and far between to start with even when everyone was on the GaoGaiGar train. You're talking out your ass because you're an idiot. All the official materials even have goddamn timelines and explanations. There's nothing to fucking support.
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>>20420381
If you won't bother, then I won't either.

>I was around when it happened.
For all the 3 years you've been posting? Sure. Comeback when you're older.
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>>20420395
There's nothing to bother. You've posted something wrong. You got called wrong. It's on you to post the evidence that something did happen.
>For all the 3 years you've been posting?
You're just trying way to hard now.
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>>20415282
Those tits, my god..
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