Second Episode Edition>Anime Trailershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6gATcNgk9shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ljulqkkw6Ikhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQzgxn-J2VAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZySaJkVkyc>New Anime Websitehttps://muv-luv-alternative-anime.com/>Project Mikhail Trailershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWW24Dbxh-Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apm55Z_AKek>New Project Mikhail Websitehttps://www.project-mikhail.com/en/>Project Immortal Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFmg_n_pONU>Two new CGs and one updated one from TDA 04https://twinfinite.net/2020/09/muv-luv-tda-images-alternative-anime-site/>Asset Archivehttps://muv-luv.naruhodo.workers.dev/0:/>TDA 00-03 now on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/bundle/18646/MuvLuv_Unlimited__The_Day_After_ULTIMATE_COLLECTION/>Muv-Luv Alternative Manga vol 1-4 & 5-8 now on Steamhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1501130/MuvLuv_Alternative_Manga_Super_Bundle_1/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1616080/MuvLuv_Alternative_Manga_Super_Bundle_2/Previous Thread: >>20203978
>>20216695He who understands the meaning of this picture shall receive a great boon!
takeru's redesign is the only one i'm happy about. 6 more hours
dumb Meiya > cool Meiya
>>20216720goddammit the basedjak posters on the right never fail to get me
huh. this looks different than i expected. been a while since i read alternative, there's not supposed to be any greenery around right?
>>20216725Yeah, it should be barren coz g-bombs and all
>>20216725Iirc the trees (including THAT tree) are meant to be withered and the sakura trees blossoming was like some kind of miracle
>>20216714>>20216720>>20216725Where are these from? Was there a leak?
>>20216725I think there was a little imported stuff but there's not supposed to be a forrest out there.
you have one job evan. you already have the original ost, all you have to do it remix it a little>>20216735it's from the official alternative anime sitehttps://muv-luv-alternative-anime.com/i just clicked around and found them
>>20216725Truthfully I could buy the idea of having enough greenery to resemble idyllic normalcy. You could probably pen a whole psycheval about trainee mental health being affected by the environment they march around in on the regular, and while an argument can be made about desensitizing them to the sight of wasteland, I feel much a similar point can be made about reminding people, or even showing the generation born into the nightmare, just what they're fighting to get back....but yeah it's been a while but I do think that much green doesn't show up outside of island survival and the coup, come to think of it.
can't avex just hire back nanase hikaru for the ost? or they just didn't want to because she's affiliated with lantis? she's way more fit for the job than evan.
>>20216740>more soulless minimalismyawn
Will there be subs at run time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiiy2S4rSE>she's reading Sumika's diary
>>20216803Bruh why does she sound like VA
>>20216803Tell me, why did they choose such a titty monster design that's spilling out of the screen for their official chuuba?
>>20216811why wouldn't they?
>>20216803This shit got recommended to me for like 2 days now but i gonna say her reaction is priceless feel really nostalgic remembering my reaction back then desu
>>20216876Just watched her chomp reaction and it was glorious
Does Takeru ever talk about missing his parents in unlimited or Alt? Going through unlimited now and I don’t think he’s said that yet. Could be wrong though.
>>20216891I've noticed in a lot of VN's including Muv-Luv that the MC's parent's are rarely mentioned. I think it's a cultural thing.
>>20216955Because NEETs hate their parents and seeing mentions of them in their games makes em seeth
>>20216968Makes sense. Usually it's NEET Otaku who end up making VN's.
>>20216975Ironic, but we enjoy their stuff like the greatest thing ever. It's like watching Tarantino movies knowing Weinstein is the producer
Does it air in 2 hours?
>>20216725that's the highschool, retard. it's from a flashback
>>2021702011:55 am EST is when it airs, if the website listed time is still correct
>>20217035the school had the giant satellite?
>>20217038how do you think people got tv back in the 90s
>>20217039don't google what copper wiring is
>>20216955Guess it’s meant for self-insertion or using that trope since it’s easier than making art or a sprite for the parents. I’m just surprised he didn’t mention missing them in the unlimited world.
>>20217062they're mentioned a bit in extra
>2-3hours until the first starts coming outLET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE
>>20217208i'm ready to start at the sadogashima siege.
anyone going to stream the episode?
>>20217349it's on muse asia. just use vpn.
>>20217367can u send link the the youtube video, i just looked thru the channel and can't find it
>>20217410it's not up yet, it comes up in a minute.
apparently it was delayed 15 min
>>20217208Now is the moment of thruth. This is the episode where the main cast shows up
any final predictions on pacing?
>>20217431>VIDEO IS UNAVAILABLEGODDAMNIT
>>20217476anon just use a vpn to singapore...
>>20217452this is BULLSHIT BLAZING fast
what the hell??
>>20217506G GUNDAM NOW
oh fuck it is alternative. i thought they were going to blend it with unlimited.
This shit is fast paced af
LMFAO so 1 minute in the anime is about 50 minutes in the vn
ngl this episode is filled with QUALITY too. man coup better be some good looking sakuga....
>>20217525The anime is saved
>>20217537will it get fixed in the blurays?
>>20217525the only saving grace of this anime
>>20217539you fucking wish
>>20217573i mean don't they fix quality stuff in blue rays....?
>>20217579They are supposed to, there is no guarantee
Oh god that ED was a nightmare.
bros, the second episode... was actually good? am I just high on hopium?
honestly i thought episode 1 was better.. They should have just done an original story
>>20217603eh. it was like my safest prediction for this episode. i'm a bit disappointed they're adapting it straight instead of going full balls to the wall connecting the pieces from extra/unlimited and alternative. it's fine now. my expectations are in check that this will just be pretty much an adaptation with the manga and that's all right with me.
>>20217603I really liked it too. That ED was shit though.
>>20217603Way too fast paced for my taste, would it have killed them to take one episode for extra and one for unlimited?
>>20217608>>20217610Well, it was good pacing for a straightforward adaptation of it, I got actually surprised by it
>>20217579sure but the previous series focused mostly on the uber shitty TSFs that aired first, the actual drawings of the characters came as a far second priority
>>20217610No. bug off. go read the vn/manga.
>>20217615i mean they already have the manga as a storyboard lmao.
>>20217616at this point it's tradition for the character animation to be QUALITY.
>>20217603It was adequate to set up the basics of who Takeru is and have him join the squad. Could have done with more action of him fighting post the unlimited ending.>>20217610At least it didn't end up with him in the TFS within 1 episode so at least we know it's not trying to get to Kashgar in 11 episodes.
>>20217616>those fucked up eaglesholy shit that is from TE? they really showed that?
>>20217629>>20217622I really liked the fact that they kept a lot of his inner monologue
>>20217617But I've literally consumed all translated media at this point and now I'm gonna watch the episode subbed like the battered housewife I am
I liked Episode 2 a lot. What the fuck is wrong with me?
>>20217640y-yurusu ga yoi>>20217651you've become the coomkie, mindbroken as shit
>>20217631TE was poverty as fuck on broadcast, it was peak Thanks I Hate It.
>>20217631yeah I think that shot is from episode 3? right when Yuuya is first introducedanyways, TE had LOTS of fucking QUALITY for the TSFs that got fixed in the BRs, but this Alt adaptation at least seems to be paying more attention to the machines to avoid such crappy shots
Second Ep was ok. I actually think the animation quality is better than the first episode, the shading and stuff is less 2D. The first ep had many points when I thought I was watching TE again, but not this ep.That fucking trip up the hill.... I'm crying as I write this, guys...
I give the episode a 6/10. Fun infodump but just felt kinda boring otherwise. The VN was a lot more expressive especially with Takeru freaking out at the soldiers. But I get that's because of the pacing.
How did Takeru get overrun and die to a random Destroyer-chan like a chump in one timeline and turn into Kurogane "Desert Guy" Takeru in another one?
>delayed *again*Am I going to have to download manually the whole season like some kind of caveman?
>Sumika was in like for 2 fucking frames
>>20217686Takeru in Alternative is a accumulation of every single Takeru in existence.
>>20217689Faithful adaption then?
>>202176892 frames too many
So where do you think that the first cour is going to end? Chomp?
>>20217708MAKE IT STOP
>>20217708Why are they blocking their ears? Rocket engine too loud?
>>20217716end of coup. don't think they'll go all the way to chomp.
>>20217716Kashgar. The pacing is really fast
>>20217716All the way to Integrate. They're that fast.
>>20217708Lol they copied pasted the same hands.
>>20217651honestly anon I went in thinking it would be shit so I walked out pleasantly surprised. Not to say it was perfect: the pacing was a bit fast, they made Yuuko wayyyy less snarky and sarcastic, some of the voices are a big adjustment, and sometimes it seemed like the animators had a hard time keeping characters on model but [spolier]my wife is beautiful in animation AND is now beyond a shadow of doubt, the winner of the TakeruBowl in Unlimited
>>20217716Optimism: ChompRealism: Sadogashima hive assault
>>20217686>One had a mech>the other didn't and was a childGee anon, you tell me
that ending is kinda groovy.
>>20217756It would be pretty kino if the season ended with Takeru running away back to Extra.
Yeah, watching it for the second time assured me that the ED should be watched on mute.
>No Save in the Name of True Love subtitleONE JOB
>>20217767Then an entire cour of Extra seemingly as normal, but in the final few episodes shit goes downhill fast and ends with Yuuko sending him back.
>>20217767S1 ending with Chomp, S2 ending with Sadogashima and then either a 3rd or a pair of movies for Yokohama and Kashgar would be perfect.Which is why I'm pretty sure it isn't gonna happen.Also, did we get an OP?
>>20217782>Muv Luv Alternative s2 starts with a daily life of Shirogane Takeru only to get mind hacked by Alt Takeru lolbut nah they wouldn't do this, the adaption so far is way too safe.
>>20217694Pretty much. They basically narrated the progress of the easiest one to detail without losing 2 episodes in flashbacks.
Did they not draw her leg?
>>20217788we do. the op is okay. the ed is an affront to god.
>>20217803Opening is worse than the ending wtf
>>20217801it's the future (2001), she's hovering
>>20217788Yeah, but it's just a serviceable op. It's in line with the rest.
>>20217788Damn time to fap
>>20217801On a closer inspection they did, but the right leg is too tin and the left is covered by the lab coat. Quite a bad perspective.
>>20217798Jesus imagine them trying to transition to the ending with that ED during a serious moment. What the fuck were they thinking? Imagine the CHOMP happening with that ED ending the episode.
>>20217822no you>>20217834eh it can work.
>>20217834You can transition pretty well from that to a Japanese KFC spot.
I think it's decent enough, I have no idea how anybody that didn't play Extra/Unlimited makes any sense at all out of the first 5 minutes even if they explain it a bit after that. I know if I wasn't already in it for the long haul I'd probably have tapped out pretty fast.
>>20217760disregard, i am a retard
>>20217875I hope all the retards who skipped Extra and Unlimited get filtered right away and stop watching.
>>20217875I was thinking the same thing, especially without incentives like high end animations to motivate the newcomers.
>>20217875It definitely feels like it wasn't made for people who didn't already know Extra/Unlimited. Ep 01 seemed like an okay intro but now with all the jargon and the flashbacks that newcomers won't get it's just hard to imagine someone new actually considering sticking around for the long run.
>Takeru has Meiya's sword>but dies to a random mook-tier betaSo I guess the timeline where he became a badass was before that one ?
>>20217882They got nice animation on the mechs last episode and probably the next one with TFS mock battles. It seems like the studio is hard shafting the 2d talking scenes in order to pay for the action sequences.
what the fuck is this bitch doing?
>>20217898Yeah, the 2D parts suffer a lot from the low budget but nothing is embarrassingly bad so far.
>>20217886She looks like she just got done sucking
>>20217881Playing Valgern-On with my boyfriend Mikoto!
>>20217894Going by the leaked CGs, Kurogane doesn't have Meiya's sword even if he has the guard.
>>20217902Losing to Meiya in Episode 2.
>>20217881Cutest roach>>20217886Cutest cat
>>20217925baka desu senpai
>>20217921>Soul vs SoullessVNs are /v/ confirmed?
The animation in this thing is fucking terrible. Couldn't they have gone with a decent studio to make this?
nitpicks>That salute lmao>Takeru not mentioning Sumika waking him up to go to school>Takeru not throwing a huge fit at the soldiers for stopping him>Off model Takeru looks like old Takeru funny enough>No Takeru preparing the gun and everyone going wtfNow my honest question is will they adapt the Mikoto molestation scene....?
>>20217949>>Takeru not mentioning Sumika waking him up to go to schoolGood
>>20217945That's the best they can afford.
Wow watching this is suffering. Truly the true muv luv experience
>DUDE I JUST READ THIS AMAZING VN>cool! is there an anime?>uh ya.... check out... the alt anime...>dude... this is shit.. you have garbage taste.. steins;gate's adaptation was way better...how do you respond?
steins;faggot has a tranny bitch
>>20217984Stick with the VN. Everyone in their life witnessed one or more bad or mediocre adaptation from a cherished source material.
Now I'm just confused why they made the first ep the way it was instead of trying to (I dunno, somehow) fit the ending of Unlimited or something to fucking establish the narrativeWith context sure I get what's happening but I'll be damned if I'm going to pretend this is watchable for anyone without prior knowledge. They're not going to get the flashbacks to either Extra or Unlimited, what even is the point?
>>20217961>That's the best they can afford.With this level of sponsorship, they could afford Production IG or something:>Fuji TV>Crunchyroll>Bandai Namco Arts>10¢>Avex PicturesIt's obscene that it looks this awful. Crap like Eighty Six or Kimetsu no Yaiba looks infinitely better than this.
>>20218005They should have adapted ending of Unlimited instead of Sadogashima's fall in the first episode.
So where are the Valkyries during all of this? Are they stationed on Yokohama base but they just never show up?
>>20218023At first I was okay with the 1st ep establishing the world of Alternative, but now with this narrative trainwreck I wish they didn't and just went with the ending of Unlimited.
>>20218027More or less, they also go off to capture live BETA after Takeru tells Yuuko about the surfacing swarm
>thinks the episode just started>it's already the EDI'm hyped!
>>20218012It's not that they couldn't, it's that they didn't want to
>>20218012Depends on how much those companies are actually spending. You can have a smaller committee and a bigger budget and usually it shows. This is a cheap project in which most of the money were spent for the CG with the 2D stuff as an afterthought. Characters in the background seems to be made of toothpicks.
Like every Muv Luv animation, just wait for the second episode to see the whole thing turning into teen crap.
>>20218055Jesus the angles on some of these noses are rough.
>>20218055Looks like his face is melting, but on the horizontal axis. Weird.
bros....i'm actually feeling so giddy. what the fuck i thought this episode was boring as fuck but man i feel like i'm seeing muv luv for the first time again.
>>20218078I feel the same. It's not an anime i would recommend to anyone, but i feel a cozy sensation watching it.
>>20218078I think we have finally reached the point were we are so starved for content we are coming around to the anime, despite all signs pointing to it being a flaming piece of garbage. There must be a name for this phenomenon
Based Saint-giri making it into the OP.Also Sumika showing up at the end...
>>20218092im just mad i got no one irl to talk about this with like my gundam bro. (tried shillng it to him, he just looked at me and went wtf bro as soon as he saw extra) and my nekopara bro got filtered as soon as he saw alternative on the steam page. >>20218099i'm enjoying it so far. i'm not expecting it to be like the vn.
What is this map meant to be? Why is Korea separated if the UN base is in Yokohama? Where are the hives?
>>20218117HEY WHY DID YOU STEAL MY WEBM AND THEN BRING THE /a/ STUFF ON HERE?
>>20218099It's called coping.
>>20218127>so because of the acid in the last episode, he went back in time or something like that nowAHAHAHAHA>this some assmeiya has a nice ass.>why do they need to rip off all you need is killhahahahahahaanime only comments are going to make this series great. keep them coming.
>>20218117Autists begone, we're a normalfag franchise now
>>20218134Love having the oportunity to post this.
>>20218127Time for a Purge. BETA style.
why does r/anime have so many anime onlieshttps://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/q7ewht/muvluv_alternative_episode_2_discussion/
>>20218127As some anon suggested above it would have been better to have the first episode as the end of Unlimited. Casual viewers would have just took it for a bad ending with the main character going back in time without the jumbled exposition dump. Then they could have added later flashbacks to add details of Unlimited timeline.
>>20218154Because VN fans are all here.
>>20218156nah. they could've just started episode 2 like a "natural" isekai with Shirogane Takeru introducing himself and having a mini speech about beating the BETAs or whatever like the end of unlimited and then flash forward to him waking up in bed going "Huh, what the wasn't I just fighting the BETA?....haha what a weird dream...wait shouldn't Sumika be waking me up already?"Also a little disappointed they didn't adapt him going outside and going full "Fuck this wasn't a dream...."
>>20218154Because they only watch anime. But nips in twitter are loving this episode too.
>>20218154What are you doing in Plebbit?
>>20218174it's fun for seeing retards.
>>20218177Kinda sus chief.
>>20218156they need some kind of exposition showing how dangerous the BETA are and to set up the past 50 years etc
>>20218170Nips have shit taste. Everyone knows that.I only hope this means more cool TSF art on Pixiv: https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/戦術機
>>20218183>>20218187ye, it's like youtube comments except worse for some reason.
>>20218193>Nips have shit taste.They are right this time. Vocal minority sure is assblasted here.
>>20218170Japan has shit taste, what is new in the world? I really need to get out of my ass and make the Japanese can eat shit edit so i can post it
>>20218170retards, nips on twitter say that about every episode ever. They did the same shit for nu-higurashi
are we still doomposting here
>>20218252all the new seiyuu except for Kei sound like shit, so yes.
>>20218257Meiya sounds fine.
>>20218264she sounds fine for 30% of her lines and fucks up the rest
>>20218265>ホッ…マブラヴは予約数で特典が変わるとかじゃなくて良かった良かった>Hah... I'm glad muv-luv doesn't have preorder bonuses that scale with sales.
>>20218268Nah. Kouki did good work choosing her new voice.
>>20218268She's fine. She's just not the original who was actual perfection.
>>20218199>polish your fubuki!even more reason to try to come back alive after every goddamn sortie
>>20217214Why the fuck does Walken make me think of M.D. Geist
why didn't they just hire the old voice actresses...
>>20218293Basic reason:The one that really matters, Meiya's, doesn't even really do VA work.Money reason: Avex using ML as a way to get young talent experience and exposure
>>20218309they got Meiya back to voice a shitty gacha game in 2018
>>20217921How the FUCK does a VN have better animation than an anime?
>>20217686because the anime writers never read TDA lmao, the niggers probably never even read the VN and just adapted by cutting shit out straight from the original script
>>20218313Because the VN was made with soul and they actually got some famous animator for all the anime cutscenes whos name I can't remember because I'm gay. Just wait until you can compare the Kashgar final in 2 years.
What is the general consensus on the second episode?
>>20218312That's a tiny commitment compared to what could be a multi-season anime and eventually several upcoming games. I love her voice an unreasonable amount but she basically *only* ever voiced Meiya. It's clearly not how she makes her living.
whelp this second episode into getting dumped, quite a wednesday!!
>>20218328They better bring her back for Integrate
>>20217921TO BE FAIR, in this shot they were saluting for Alternative V.Being left on earth as bug food would certainly explain the "my feet hurt" attitude we see here.
>>20218313Because the VN has 2 minutes of animation versus 12+ episodes?Are you seriously asking this question
>>20218334lol you think Avex will let them get the old VAs back or that the old VAs aren't pissed about getting replaced for the animeTakeru's old VA was already semi-shitposting about it a month ago
>>20218313the VN animation of Meiya v Superior in the hive was fucking kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3uvuffWLDU
>>20218334I've got bad news for you anon
i honestly don't care about the quality of the anime, i just hope it's a success so i can get more model kits
>>20218345why did they think that destroying hive 01 was so important again? They didn't even know about the superior
>>20218336Wasn't the colony ships part of Alternative V not supposed to work anyway? The USA wanted to use G Bombs en masse because they underestimated the side effects and the other nations were not going to let them do that unless there was a hope of survival for humanity in the case Earth was destroyed. The USA never believed that the colony ships would succeed in their mission. They did in the end, but it wasn't expected.
>>20218350Because the 00-unit got them data that showed that ONLY Kasghar has any thinking ability and Master Bater also got humanity's data.
>>20218334More like bring her back for Resonative, so she can finish playing shogun there.
>>20218265I remember them making a lot of doom articles about how nobody was interested in it anymore.The episode today made it to number 2 in trendings and the BD/DVD preorders are looking great. Happy of seeing them getting BTFO.
>>20218350I believe by that point they had figured out through Sumika that the hives reported back to their originator to formulate plans, and because of the base invasion they had to do their invasion of it as fast as possible or it likely wouldn't have worked.
>>20218350They knew something there was acting as central command for the BETA, they were not expecting Mr. Controller Noodles, but they knew someone would be at the core of the Original Hive
>>20218343It would be a real shame if the old VAs aren't brought back for Integrate and Resonative. I think that would be the final straw for me.
>>20218370Does mikhail have voices? At least partial? I guess you'll know if they're replaced when it releases since that dev team already told the anime designs to fuck off, so if they use the anime voices it's pretty much confirmed.
>>20218350center of the hivemind brain on earth and a very important strategical hive to take out, very little to be gained and very much to be lost in taking out the the ones around it without kashgar destroyed.the entire world was kinda gambling on the alternative IV forces being able to take it out at that point with the full scale attack on eurasia iirc.
>>20218358>>20218369>>20218362i remember the whole Sumika's blood going through the hive and then back to the superior, but I didn't remember her getting any information back from the exchange other than the dreams.. So I guess they figured that if they killed the hive they could just kill the rest of the hives while they were stupid? what if 02 instantly grew a superior lol..
>>20218384It is as >>20218383 says, it was a full gamble, no one was sure it would work and it paid off, one silver of hope in the bleakness that was the aftermath of the Yokohama base battle
>>20218377Avex is trying to launch MuvLuv as a fresh multimedia franchise. There is no way they do not go all in on the vocal reset - they want young talent that will work for cheap that they can tie to the franchise for what might be decades.
I just watched the 2nd episode. Eh, the infodump was expected, as the same happens in the VN anywaysthe new voices are ok I guess, but Meiya's will always be a glaring point, as her pitch in the VN is VERY distinctive and the new seiyuu just sounds too different>>20218349Koto has already announced it will make a non scale Fubuki
>>20218395Cheap seems to be the keyword in everything they are doing with Muv Luv. I hope it's worth in the long run.
>>20218395If they can't be bothered getting the old VAs back for the final of shit they abandoned in 2013, they can suck my dick. What, I'll have to listen to the anime voices trilogy characters but all the TDA originals aren't re-cast? fuck you.
>>20218404got a link to the announcement? any release date?
>>20218337Yes! Yes, I am asking that! It's a fucking anime, the entire point is that it's animated, that's the ONE decisive advantage it has over VN's as a medium and the entire point behind animating it in the first place! If a show can't beat a glorified book in the tiny bit of animation it has then why does it even exist!?
What're the chances of blu ray versions having skin-toned suits and suit nipples?
>>20218412Magnificent, the best BETA design after Mr. Chomp
>>20218350because they knew that the first Hive was somehow involved in how the beta actedafter the yokohama bloodbath, during which the beta began to use ACTUAL battle tactics instead of classic zerg rush, Yuuko discovers that the readings of the 00 unit went both ways, so the beta would end up gaining the required data to counter the latest human tech developments that could somehow even the field (the XM3 and the Susanoo), reason why the original Hive had to fucking die right there and then, otherwise humanity would have been fucked in 1 year or even less
>>20218413Because that's not how this works at all. The VN anime segments, second for second, have way more budget thrown at them. That's what matters for that. >why does the anime existfor the 99.99% of the VN that wasn't animated.
>>20218425Then maybe you shouldn't animate that .01% at all if it's going to look like such complete dogshit in comparison. Give it enough extra attention so that your anime isn't losing on the animation front to a fucking book.
>>20218412no date yet but it was announced in the official sitehttps://muv-luv-alternative-anime.com/news/detail.php?id=1094486
>>20218442also, don't be a shitter and make some effort with your models!https://muv-luv-alternative-anime.com/news/detail.php?id=1094872
>>20218436So your argument is that because you can't match the quality of a scene that was already animated in a different context with a higher budget and less time restraints, you should skip ALL of that material completely?
>>20216695This adaptation is incredibly disrespectful to the VN.There is no way in hell the original curators of the VN are helping making this abomination.
>>20218442>>20218444thanks for the links, king
So is Muv-Luv finally getting into SRW with this anime?
Here's your suits bro
>>20217949>Now my honest question is will they adapt the Mikoto molestation scene....?Do you honestly think thet will in the year of our Lord 2001+20?
>>20218446original writer only helped cast the new voices, he loves the show though and suck its cock on twitter.
>>20218454Going from beta massacre to this 5 seconds later definitely causes some mixed feelings
>>20218445My argument is that you should at least try. They didn't.
>>20218459Do we want to suck them?
the poor anime onlies...
>>20218343>Takeru's old VA was already semi-shitposting about it a month agoWait, really? What did he say?
>>20218476I am curious as well. Soichiro Hoshi has a boatload of money and hardly works in modern anime.
>>20218475>Turns out you need to watch Total Eclipse to get what's happeningI don't know if I should laugh or cry at this.
>>20218454I like them, looks more tacticool.
>>20218488Turns out the only total eclipse is in his mind.
>>20218489holy fucking SOULLESS
people already comparing this to steins;gate's anime lol
>>20218476>>20218485>Come to think of it, I also got replaced recently. Can't be helped I guess σ(^_^;)
>>20218454>They'll add the chin straps latter, they just don't have them yet because this is in the past, stop doomposting.
Hang on, why the fuck are pilots, who are commissioned officers on default, trained by sergeants who should never be pilots or have any TSF experience?Also why the fuck did Marimo accept such a massive demotion from Major in the Jap army to a goddamn sergeant? that's like asking a managing director of Wendies to become the manager of a local KFC joint.
>>20218528If not!b8 and genuine question, please read Alternative
did they change the fortified suits between VN versions? I don't remember the training suits being transparent when I played through the game; however, I was using an extremely old iso pre steam release, and it had H scenes in it
>>20218539I did read it, I know Yuuko pulled some strings to get her in, and its a really sensitive post to train a bunch of political hostages. But that doesn't explain why the fuck a sergeant is training officers, nor why Marimo accepted getting her pay cut by like 70%.
>>20218555I think you just dimension slipped, that's literally the only version that has them transparent.
>>20218560you have to read a couple of side stories to know the answer you faggot
>>20218573just fucking tell me
>scenes anime onlies will NEVER understandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbdVfJGRbfw
>>20218569>>20218563my iso doesn't have them, what the fuck
>>20218599did you get this opening or the fixed version?>>20218596
>>20218603I had the fixed version of alt; however, for extra/unlimited i had the original iso. I had to do both routes before unlocking unlimited, i remember being confused as hell. These are the suits that i had
>>20218509Calling it a shitpost made me think it would be a bit more spicier. This is incredibly tame.
>>20218599If you know Japanese you might have downloaded the win 7 re-release that already used console assets, If you're an EOP it's literally impossible to play anything but the first edition or steam release though.
https://youtu.be/IYVHgWhNb0I?t=807I was rechecking this scene, now I'm 120% sure they're going to end Alternative S1 at chomp. They're going to be reusing the same animation from episode 2 but the question is why did they show that part.....it makes no sense because he doesn't die there....nor should he have knowledge of it yet.
Ayamine a best
always the same bullshitwith each new muv luv animated adaptation"muh u dont like it cuz it doesn't transcribe the VN's real quality"sorry muv-luv VN is high school junk toodialogues are pitiful, design are trivialthe whole franchise sucks assesstop dreamingthe original material was already dung made for effeminate zoomersit has nothing to do with a bad adaptationmuv luv was always an overrated fraudits animated counterparts are faithful to its legacy of shallowness
>>20218660B8 fish best image
>>20218615By Nip standards that is. I don't think there is need to go full David Hayter.
Did the base really always have this much green shit?
>>20218693never seen grass before?
>>20218658They both look like they fuck a lot
>>20217214what cg is that in his glasses?
>>20218560Marimo DID have experience as pilotproblem is her very first sortie everyone was killed except for her and the same story repeated when she was assigned to any other squad in the Asian continentshe eventually requested to be a instructor because 1) her dream was always to be a teacher (basically, her Extra iteration) and 2) so she can try her best to train people and avoid other shitters from even getting to a TSF, making other people getting killed and ending up like herthe latter is why she builds a reputation as a super harsh instructor
>>20218731>ywn be beaten by Marimo
>>20218731>problem is her very first sortie everyone was killedthis stops being funny when most of the relevant characters from all the side stories have a similar depressing backstory
>>20218744Considering the survival rates of TSF pilots i am impressed we have people without depressive backstories
>>20218410Isn’t Komaki in TDA? Is she using her old VA? If not then you have your answer.
>>20218496I miss when even SM had nipples
>>20218758now THAT is off model
>>20218772is this supposed to be a troll post?
>>20218772The hell are you talking about its an illustration by Carnelian from the LNs some of the first pictures of SM they made. All of the original cockpit shots of all the girls had nipples.
Anyone have a torrent? Nya seems to be down when searching.
>>20218785she is like an a-cup in the anime
>>20218795I'm sorry but you're a blind lying retarded little vegetable.
>>20218795maybe don't watch garbage fucking âge anime and then wonder why you don't like anything but alternative
>>20218811I hate that fucking stasi whore
>>20218816Seethe more, animeonly.
>>20218815look at her tits here then compared her to >>20218811here>>20218785and here
>>20218832Lise's official bust size is 88 cm, which looks more like >>20218772 and >>20218811 than >>20218815. Especially given Iris's official size is 91cm, only 3 cm larger than Lise's, they should definitely be pretty close.
>>20218885Whoops meant to quote >>20218758 instead of >>20218772, obviously since Lise isn't even in that first pic but you get what I'm saying.
>>20218885No one cares
SAVE IN THE NAME OF WHATWHAT AM I SAVING THE NAME TO? SOMEONE FUCKING TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK IS SAVING THE NAME OF??? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>20218890>>20218885dogs can't have boobs
>>20218892That guy I'm responding to apparently does since he's the one who decided to argue over what official art is "off model" or not. Are you not him? Then fuck off, third party.
>>20218905We're not talking about Katia
>>20218908she's just a bitch in heat
Anime is airing and shitsmarken retards are shitting up this thread again.
i want more anime only reactions. how do you feel so far?
Some anon did this thing, not half bad I sayhttps://files.catbox.moe/n1xmwc.webm
>>20218965>https://files.catbox.moe/n1xmwc.webmhe needs to fix the 1:15 cut it sounds bad but everything else its pretty good ngl
>>20218980Yeah, why not just use the VN sized OP? the chorus is different from that one
>>2021879588cm is like an e-cup
>>20218980>>20218984https://files.catbox.moe/nfhm9e.mp4Here's the fixed version
>>20219045>https://files.catbox.moe/nfhm9e.mp4thx bro <3
Anyone got the porn mega?
>the logo in the op flashes TDA textureat least it's something
nice to know that its literally impossible to ruin Kasumi
the ass that killed billions
I cant believe Im liking Kei more in the anime than the VNs
>>20218509was he talking about the fate cast? poor tama's va was in both.
OP SONG FUCKING SUCKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH WHAT IS THIS GENERIC JPOP. I will be skipping the OP song now thanks for the 10 sec of pure dogshit
>>20219439get ready for ED then lol
>>20219439The ED is even worse, enjoy (or not)
>>20219453>>20219443i like the ending better
How tf are the newcomers gonna get interested with this anime when every second is an infodump or flashback of the previous events? Kouki must be feeling stupid to think that this anime isnt for the VN readers.
>>20219453>>20219443" DO WHAT I WANT AND DO WHAT I NEED " Yeah nah get this shit off me ive had enough of generic jpop shit GODDAMNIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>20219045I really don't want to end up being that guy that hates new things but god fucking damn JAM Project just hits fucking different I miss them so much.
>>20219507Kouki has copium injected directly into his veins 24/7, he doesn't give a fuck about anything.
>>20219533currently sucking the dick of the new OP
Honestly I didn't think the ED was that bad of a song (besides it being Engrish), but it doesn't fit the show at all. It sounds like it should be ending theme for something like Shinkalion or Extra if it absolutely HAD to be attached to mmuvluvthe beat is pretty nice, hopefully they release the instrumental version
and to think back in the TE days people made fun of GOING GOING HIKARI EI should have killed myself many years ago
>>20219586ITS NOT TOO LATE ANON! DO IT!
>>20219597niggers stole my arms
>>20218457Are we sure he wasnt getting paid to do so? This just cant be right. If i were in his shoes, id be pissed and be disrespected. Maybe Kouki is just autistic that he's dream is for his series to get animated no matter how shitty it is.
>>20219604>Are we sure he wasnt getting paid to do so?Anon he is the one that sold the company and franchise in the first place. If avex tells him to do something, he has to do it or they fire him. Just like when they told him muv luv needs a new logo.
>>20219580I think it would still fit if it was an Unlimited adaption
this popgun guy is pumping some very nice pics
>no HOOMAN BRAINS yetmaybe in a flashback?
>>20218939The second episode feels like starting in the middle of a new arc of an ongoing story (because it is). They didn't try to change things up to make it more digestable for secondaries.They clearly made this for zoomers with all the changes and stuff but they halfassed the most important part.
>the anime is made for new fans!>dumps a whole bunch of exposition that's missing 70% of the context provided by Extra/Unlimitedare they retarded? How is this for new people?Also Yuuko was nerfed hard in the anime. She's lost all of her commanding/dominant/sarcastic personality. She's arguably one of the strongest characters in the series and they turned her into just another side character.
>>20219689I can't believe they cut the scene where Yuuko convinces the guards to let Takeru come with her after all that drama by her going "Oops, silly me, I totally forgot I know this guy lol"
>>20219033sorry i was thinking about Anett
Jesus christ it's even worse than I thought it'd be. They are seriously trying to just do a 1-to-1 adaptation despite skipping the first two VNs. I figured they'd try to ham-hand it in via flashbacks or something, but no, they're not even going to try.How? How could you possibly think that was a good idea?
And it's now doomposter o clock.
>>20219809Just wait until it's over.
>>20219823A couple of days until they get bored of repeating the same thing.
>>20219809The show's out and we're watching it. It's bad and we're calling it bad. How the fuck is that doomposting?
>>20219809I'm not saying the franchise will die or something, the adaptation is just not even trying.
>>20219827See ya next week I guess then.
i really don't like takeru. He was fine when he was silent and an fpvod, but GOD does it sound stupid when he's on screen and saying all this stuff.
>>20219661the more I think about it the less I understand why they didn't make episode 1 takayuki getting g bombed and ending with the brains. it would have had the beta action they wanted and tied into the game intro.
>>20219832So far the only bad things about it are the cheap 2D animation and the fact that they haven't adapted Extra and Unlimited first. The rest are subjective bitching for the sake of creating drama.As far as "Alternative anime" thing goes, it didn't cut out any of the important story elements so far and was pretty faithful to the VN. I would rather have an another TDA lore discussion here.
predictions for what's in ep3?
>>20219809>it's now doomposter o clockIf the adaption is doomed by episode 2, why are you complaining about people pointing that out?>b-bbut I enjoyed it!Good for you, it's still a shit adaption.
>>20219845>the more I think about it the less I understand why they didn't make episode 1 takayuki getting g bombed and ending with the brains.https://www.animatetimes.com/news/details.php?id=1632469024&image_share=2>ゲームでも描いていない、コミックスにもなっていない、誰も見たことがないものを見せたらインパクトがあるよね、というのが前提としてありました。They wanted to trick people into liking it by showing something that was never shown before. Operation lucifer was in strike frontier.
>>20219848>subjectiveYou don't fucking say. Pro-tip, anon, calling the 2D animation and skipping Extra and Unlimited bad is subjective too.
>>20219848we can go back to discussing cup sizes if you would prefer that discussion
>>20219848The animation looks fine to me.
Here we go again.....
>>20219045thanks dude. This was awesome.
>>20219856why does it have to be a trick? why couldn't they just make something people would like because it's something they wanted to see animated that newfags could enjoy too?
>>202197971:1 adaptation? Who said that? I thought the first ep was clearly enough to let you know that will have original content. And it's confirmed that the anime is for newcomers.
Why did they do Sadogashima as the opening episode and not Takeru and Co. getting overrun and killed by BETA after Alternative V? It'd be a big mecha action scene to draw in viewers to fill that producer's requirement, it's something we've never seen to fill >>20219856, it'd give some time to flesh out the cast, it'd make this time-looping element less jarring, it's nothing but upsides.
>>20218897Killing in the name of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWXazVhlyxQ&ab_channel=RATMVEVO
Imagine thinking that doomposting is equivalent to legitimate criticism of how badly they are unfolding the narrative when they advertised that newcomers should be able to get into it easily.WE understand what's going on, the fact that they blatantly lied or horribly over estimated how well they handled introducing people to the Alternative universe is grounds to be worried. If anything it'll actually get people to read the Visual Novels because of how much of a disconnect there is but I wouldn't be proud off of getting profit by making a faulty adaptaion, but hey at the end of the day profit is profit I guess.
>>20219899This also absolutely boggles my mind. If they just started with the ending of Alternative V we wouldn't even need that info dump at the beginning about Alternative V and instead maybe focus more on the Extraverse.I'm not getting why people think this anime is for newcomers when it clearly isn't, unless you're going to tell me the flashbacks and the narrative dump in ep 02 is enough, to which I vehemently disagree.
>>20219879I support this anon >>20219848, people are doomposting and they're acting like children because their daddy didn't gave them what they want, but unfortunately the anime had very few scenes (like 4) with awkward animation. >>20219907How it can be a legitimate criticism when your opinion is biased? I would try asking to an anime watcher their opinion about the anime.God, it understand the second episode had a lot of dumpinfo and flashbacks, but I've seen series like this and I keep watching to understand what's going on. The last anime like this was Blue Reflection Ray, the first ep was "wtf is happening, it's so confusing", I keep watching and I was able to understand the series and everything makes sense. So with that logic people would have dropped Monogatari series because it has nonsense episodes and had a weird chronological order. The opinion that actually matter are the anime watcher, the VN reader isn't valid since it's biased. Something that I would agree with are some derp moments in the 2D animation. Y'all have to grow and use your brains if has any.
>>20219913Right? You want some action to draw in viewers and are willing to make shit up to meet that requirement, okay fine. Then why wouldn't you make something up that actually supports the story you're going to tell?
>>20219937You literally just also shared your own experience which is also biased. Not everyone is like you, and not everyone is the guy who posted what you're replying to, and you literally went in insulting everyone else who has an opinion on the matter so maybe think before you speak too when you tell people to use their brains.Monogatari was made without needing prior knowledge. This was obviously the 2nd part of some sort of series that you needed prior knowledge on. If they pull off making it clearer in 11 episodes that's great but we're talking about the now and it's not looking good but sure keep your opinions it's a free board.
>>20219960>There are people on this board right now comparing the narrative dumpster fire of episode 1 and 2 to the Monogatari seriesMaybe Alternative V was the right option.
>>20219937Saying that anime-only people should be the only one allowed to criticize the anime is like saying that someone who doesn't draw cannot criticize someone who does.I'm assuming you've read or watched more than just anime, you can take that experience with how well those types of media clicked with how much you liked the pacing/explanation of the story and apply it to another piece of media. I'm pretty sure that's all that they're doing here too, comparing it to another piece of media that in their opinion had good pacing and/or ability to lay context in relation to the current narrative.Of course you're going to be biased on anything, your post also reeks of bias, but that doesn't stop you from having an opinion on the anime now does it? So why complain about the people complaining? Just because you don't agree with them?
>>20219969>Monogatari was made without needing prior knowledgeThis anime as well was made without needing prior knowledge, since the it's for newcomers.I can't have some respect for people here when everyone literally are doomposting without understand that the fucking anime isn't for VN readers, it's for damn newcomers. >>20220051Dude, comparing the original content with the adaptation doesn't help at all. The pacing sucks because you felt the pacing is so fast and therefore you're going to say that it sucks because they adapted 1k lines onto 24 minutes, does that means the anime sucks? No, the anime is a different media and it try to condense everything in few hours. >>20219975Imagine being this faggot to not quoting directly my post, maybe in real life you talk behind people's backs instead of talking directly to them.
Imagine being offended by someone on an imageboard.
>anti-doomposters can only type broken englishoh nonononono
>>20220076I'm not even comparing it to the original content, cause of course I watch other shows too so I'm thinking it's weird that okay, episode 1, cool, aliens, dang that seems wild, then episode 2, what, time loop? Parallel other world? I guess that's kind of neat, but what happened to everyone in episode 1? Where'd that Komaki lady go?It's kind of jarring narratively isn't it?
>>20220076So then there are two camps thinking 'this is for newcomers' and the other one that thinks 'this doesn't feel like it's for newcomers' and both of these camps have both read the VNIf someone who hasn't read the VN can chime in that would be nice
>Nothing, I'll stay silent. It should have to be so bad to flop in Japan, but the two first episodes are good according to the lucky fans, so I have good expectatives. Don't forget, anon. >>20220127You won't find many people here who haven't read the VN.Most of the anime-onlies I've seen are confused. "It feels like it started in the middle of a story" is a common comment.
Does Muv Luv have choices during mecha combat that at least slightly change the scenes?
>>20220140This is what I've read for reviews as well, which is why like, I dunno it's kind of a 'okay cool I'm not actually a bitter boomer' to know that even as someone who read the VN, I can recognize that it doesn't really feel like it was made for newcomers even if it was advertised to be.It really felt like playing FF7 Remake, watching the Ghosts show flashbacks of what happened in FF7 and going 'wait a minute, I wouldn't get that if I didn't play FF7'
>>20220140If it's doing well enough in Japan I think that's enough for me cause at least that means it'll fund future projects regardless of what my opinion on the anime is.
>>20220114english can eat shit
>>20220140>It feels like it started in the middle of a storyI actually agree. As an adaptation, so far it's fine. There are no important story beats missing in the fraction ep 2 adapts. The pacing is fast, but the story is delivered in a good way. It would have been perfect if we had 2 12 ep seasons adapting EX and UN before.
>>20220114I would love these guys if they all typed in authentic Muv Luv engrish.
>>20220146you can beat mikoto at virtual on with the right choices
Take this with a grain of salt, but it looks like Muv Luv is around 10k in BD sales which is impressive for modern day BD sales numbers. Hope it keeps getting higher.
>>20220248>World’s End Harem 8ksure anon
>>20220248This is like some kind of cursed monkey paw
>>20220233Don't you still lose Iirc?
>>20219045It's beautiful and agonizing at the same time.
>>20219200BRO I Fucking trusted you and it's all not there.
desu I don't hate the new ed that much except for how poorly directed it is. It suggests some fun characterful scenes with the girls that we don't already have in Alternative and we lose by not getting Extra or Unlimited. Of course, we probably won't actually have any of those scenes in the show so it'll never make sense tonally.I just want to watch Marino tuck Yuuko in bros it's not fair.
An /a/non went and (poorly) translated an assortment of 2ch comments to get a vibe of what they're saying overseas. Take it as you will.>I never played it but wasnt this originally a normal haremge? I heard one of the routes turns into a mecha anime or something but it seems like they skipped right through the school part and its looping in the mecha part?>it seems like this is gonna be 1 cour>this would've become legendary back then butidk about now>Muv Luv is still better than all the other shit mecha anime>god damn I didnt think the new voices would be this shit>this is definitely gonna be 1 cour, theres a different show taking its slot next in January>Muv Luv is so interesting!>The first episode was okay but the second episode.... >How is this supposed to be for new viewers again? They should've at least started with Unlimited>This is clearly for old fans, this isnt for new fans at all>Everyone loves Muv Luv but the anime is so rushed its hard to care about it>desu if they dont explain the context for new viewers more the fighting scenes will have absolutely no meaning>with the way this is being rushed its going to end up like Umineko and not got a second season>OP: Vtuber, ED: some random ass gay boy band, Sakuga: shit, writing: out the window, theres nothing good about this> ^ The mech are cool so just watch the fight scenes>are there seriously not going to be any BETA scenes for a while?>it feels like a shitty original anime, they could've just gotten back the old voice actors and done some cd dramas.>where were the BETA..?>The SM protagonist would probably be the villain with his philosophy, he should be like the last boss in a sequel to Muv Luv
>>20220297>the original OP was so good, why did they have to change it?>shouldnt they have animated this from Extra? This just feels like we're watching a conclusion>back in the day they would've animated it from Extra and then Unlimited but times have changed and its just too late now>even if it was hard to understand its easy to watch. I didnt understand TE at all either but I watched it all>you could tell the new voice actors at least tried to match the original voices but there was so much QUALITY that it ended up being shit>wouldnt it be better for this type of show to be animated and released all at once for binging?>the second coming of the Total Eclipse shitstorm....>this is the kind of animation I expect for some crappy SOL anime>Takeru's explanation of events was hard to understand, also everyones voices suck>this can only feel like some shitty low budget generic eroge/mobage anime adaption>Is this really going to be okay? Theres so much QUALITY, and so much exposition that its hard to care about Takeru>The OP was okay but the ED was like a fucking KPOP band LMAO
>>20220293if what you're looking for is AF H-scenes then it's in the non-translated others folder
>>20220299I'm looking for the OG h scenes.
>>20220301AND THE GACHA ONES
I think you guys are definitely being too hard on the anime
>>20219899its pretty weird that this is basically episode 1, but then I go back and realize wait there was a fucking episode 1, what was the point of this. This is literally a different show. Are animeonly people wondering where the real protagonist is?
>>20220311There was a guy earlier today that was confused about why the guy who got killed by Fort acid got sent through time and turned into the protagonist.
>>20220311>Are animeonly people wondering where the real protagonist is?Of course they are. Director knew this would happen too, but he is convinced people will keep watching because the next episode "Has a big CGI truck"
>>20220305Honestly I'm just disappointed. I feel like there were two things that could be cool about the anime. It could have been a new perspective on the story, told in a new format, like some anons have suggested with mixing Extra, Unlimited, and Alternative together. It could also have just been an animated retelling of the VN, making the story we're familiar with feel more vivid (like what the manga is doing). Instead it's playing it completely straight so it's just the same story we all know, and the animation is crap so it doesn't feel good to watch. It just doesn't have a reason to exist so far. I hope they change that but I'm not optimistic.
>>20220297>>20220298So they're just like us?
>>20220316kek that would've been great
>>20220320thanks for this. Surprised they were able to have H scenes in a gacha/browser game like this.
>>20220348DMM porn gacha games are common as fuck. Most of them fail horribly though, just like strike frontier.
Halfway through the anime they're going to release the Project Mikhail gameThere's going to be an event or something that top players' (I dunno how it's going to work but T R U S T M E) characters will be featured at the Battle of Sadogashima fighting alongside the main squad instead of the ValkyriesSCREENCAP THIS
>>20220352DMM? Would you mind explaining it?
>>20220355https://games.dmm.co.jp/every single jpeg you see on this site is it's own R18 gacha game
Wings is better than Carry On, both as a song and as a scene. The latter is much more produced and played up, obviously, but the former is far more impactful and powerful.I'd say to prove me wrong, but it's rude to ask the impossible.
>>20220362Wow, feels like I just opened pandora's box. Surprised something like this is still going to this day.
>>20219045I will just play this in place of the opening now, thanks.
Watching both this and 86 at once is a hell of a thing.It's not fair. It's not fucking fair.
>>20220427If only Kouki was born like 20 years later
>>20220297>>20220298And once again it is proven that the Muvluv fandom is the most homogeneous one worldwide.>the second coming of the Total Eclipse shitstorm....>The SM protagonist would probably be the villain with his philosophy, he should be like the last boss in a sequel to Muv Luv
>>20220490In hindsight TE wasn't that bad
>>20220607I had more fun with TE than SM.
>>20220607>In hindsightThere it is. I'm sure when all this is over even the japs will agree.
>>20220311It was obviously to set up Sadogashima as the finale, dipshit.
>>20220455But then we wouldn't have shingeki no kyojin and thats a good thing
>>20219856>the more I think about it the less I understand why they didn't make episode 1 takayuki getting g bombed and ending with the brains.Operation zero as an intro rather than Sadogashima with Komaki wouldve worked better desu since KimiNozo had an existing anime.
>>20220640pre-timeskip not counting the dumb coup arc was the closest we get to an actually good muvluv anime
>>20220607>in hindsight with bluray fixes TE wasn't that bad
>>20220607I didn't watch TE as it was airing and thus missed all the threads, but "wasn't that bad" is about the best I can say about it. It was fine. It was okay. It wasn't GOOD, not by a long shot, but I don't regret watching it. The arc on the Russian front with the rail gun was far and away the best part. Felt like Muv Luv. The "ending" was really bad; a lot of stuff that was built up too just never happened, especially the fight with the rival squad. Yui a cute, shoulda been the main girl. The Red Shift is the stupidest thing I've ever seen and I love it.
>>20220700That wasn't the ending.Yuuya fights the Laser Fort Class at Siberia just as A-04 was entering atmosphere.
>>20220700It was dull enough that I stopped watching it for a stint in the middle.
>>20220707That wasn't in the anime man
>>20220707I know. That's why it's in quotes.
>>20220700Remember when they randomly put Berkut into the show
>>20220714No, not even a little.
I just watched the episode, did they really have to go with Takeru getting run over by a Destroyer instead of the iconic shot from Unlimited?
I may be mixing things in my memory, but shouldn't Alternative V include not only leaving Earth but also dropping G-Bombs on hives and remaining humans launching final attack on BETA?
>>20220742Maybe it was Takeru from a timeline where he banged Yuko?
>>20220788That is definitely part of Alternative V yes. Wow they forgot that too huh?
>>20220793Just wait for the special TDA episode bro
>>20220788The final attack never happened. Earth surface was totally destroyed after G-day and they knew it
>>20220788read last divers
Korea is split in betaverse?
>>20220791He's holding Meya's sword as he watches the last shuttle tho.
>>20220353Silly anon, they're gonna delay Project Mikhail again.
New Meiya sounds the most different out of the bunch. Could they really not find anyone out there who was closer to Okujima? She's basically your star girl before Soomika pops up. Kei's practically identical by comparison.
>>20220621Operation Ouka as a TV special later?
>>20221000I liked her new voice.
>>20220742bro it's not that. it's that they were fucking LAZY so they just took scenes from a future episode (aka chomp in the last episode) - note Takeru gets RAMMED by that destroyer in the VN too and crammed it in so they don't have to reanimate it. It's the same for the salute thing. It's all to save in the name of true money
>>20221453MST3K mantra? That's the impression I'm getting from machine TL.
>>20221545it's not the same scene as CHOMP, in the flashback he is using live rounds. In CHOMP he only has paintballs
>>20220742where's my kurogane last stand against a beta horde stretching beyond the horizon in every direction?
>>20221612honestly, showing Kurogane would have been a spoiler, and considering that Unlimited looped like a hundred of times at the vey least it still works
>>20221610They can change that but they already got the foundation down.
>>20221646ok, we will see if that's what they do.
>>20221642no it wouldn'tIt would be an insane hook and some cock-hardening fanservicethey don't have to show TDA's ending, just a no-context last stand with a crazy battle instead of jobbing to a basic destroyer
>>20221612There's no proof that he becomes Kurogane in every post-Unlimited ending. Conversely, there's also no proof that Kurogane doesn't somehow get healed, get placed in a Gekishin, and then get blindsided by a Destroyer after being overwhelmed.
>>20221721Yep. The scene opens with dual-blade-wielding tsf tearing through hordes of BETA. The person inside grasps for air, exhausted. He keeps fighting BETA until his propellant runs dry and blades worn out. It then reveals a long-haired takeru, ready to accept his fate, thoughts of his dead friends and comrades swirling inside his mind right before the screen cut out to Alternative.Idk how I would feel if that were to happen, just knowing that local tissue reserve would be empty.
>>20221730Right before Alt should be his peak of all his accumulated experience and skill. He doesn't have to become kurogane in every unlimited meiya end, but the more skilled he is the more likely it should be that he survives long into post Alt V. >no evidence kurogane's the one who jobbedWe know this wasn't the case in the anime because he was still in UN colors, and we know the UN collapses post Babylon.This means that canonically, pre-alt takeru jobs hard to basic ass beta, and they expect us to just accept that right after that loop he's some badass?
>>20221744>they expect us to just accept that right after that loop he's some badassExcept Alternative Takeru isn't? He aces shit like basic training and the skills test, but he falls apart when shit actually matters.
After listening to it a few times, the new op is growing on me. is this what coping feels like
>>20221812Do What You WantDo What You Need
>>20221812Same for me but with the ED, I'm getting daft punk vibes from it which helps me cope.
>>20221827the original op will always be in my heart, but im actually enjoying the anime. its quality and the ost is garbage but the mecha are fucking ON POINT and its still worth waiting this long for. and after a while of listening to it, the op isnt that bad. nowhere near asu e no houkou or Muv-Luv. but it passes. when i was watching the episode yesterday, i couldnt help but tearing up at some points
>>20221812It’s a fine OP a bit too generic, but it’s catchy. It’s still nothing special even in anime standards to a good OP.
am i the only one who likes muvluv for the characters and the world building? I find the mechs the most boring part of it
>>20221852Me too, its the pacific rim 2 effect. There is little weight-feel for the TSFs and i'm not hot for different designs and generations. At least there are actual tactics and chains of command in the lore
Finished up TDA-02 just now, ended up being a lot shorter than I was expecting. By the look of it 03 is even shorter than 02? I'll probably finish it by the end of the week. When is 04 expected to release?
>>20221863Soon(tm), if you believe kouki.Is 02's reveal a banger as it should?
>>20221849She's pretty cute with her hair loose.
>>20221860yeah i love the military and the scifi aspect of it, and the uniforms are really cute (both the overcoats and the plug suits) but I've just never really cared about the TSFs other than that they're a weapon. I kinda like that the VNs treat it that way too.. There's no massive lore dumps about how they work or the joints on their shoulders etc, other than "we needed them because nothing else really worked against the BETA." Funnily enough I really disliked Baldr Sky becuase of the mechs. The story and the world was intersting but I didn't like the mechs
>>20221882>I kinda like that the VNs treat it that way too.. There's no massive lore dumps about how they work or the joints on their shoulders etcDude did you even read Alternative?
>>20221882The idea of TSFs is not a be all end all kind of weapon. Its literally just an extension of a soldier which can do a little more stuff more efficiently. The fact that its flight capability is severely handicapped by lasers makes it no more than a walking and jumping tank.
>>20221888Yes, was there a massive lore dump on them?? I don't remember it at all
I like how you guys are arguing about anime details showing whats canon when the animators forgot to draw one of Yuuko's legs
>>20221888They only describe the subarms system and overall design iirc. There are facts about joints, but not explicitly how it works.
>>20221852that's why im hesitant to read the other shit.the only reason i really love muv luv is because of the sci fi time travelling romance drama element. don't care too much about the military and /m/ babble.
Reading TDA makes me want the japs in there to shoot themselves in the head. The amount of passive-aggressiveness and dick-sucking to higher-ups is incredible and super irritating. But again this is how nips workplace operate irl
>>20221882>There's no massive lore dumps about how they work or the joints on their shoulders etcwhat? the classroom segments were huge lore dumps unless you just zoned out during a segment literally called "Crash course"
>>2022186303 is longer than 02 but shorter than 01.
>>20221991>>20221995this was like 5 slides
>>20221869I'd seen enough in these threads to know they were going to show up at some point, so I can't say it was a big reveal or anything. Hibiki being emasculated at the mere sight of Walken was a highlight.
Was reading muv luv and someone on Facebook posted a characters head blown off which I’m guessing is a major spoiler and has discouraged me since. Should I keep reading.
>>20222201>someone on Facebook>Facebook
>>20222201Yes. Muv Luv's twists are strong enough that they still hit hard even if you know they're coming, and whatever you saw could have been from one of the spinoffs anyway.
>>20222208Is there any way to forget what I saw?
>>20222201i went through the whole series thinking that Meiya was an AI because someone on 4chan told me that before I started extra. It wasn't until the end of alt that I think he was trying to refer to Sumika lol
>>20222231How should I know how your brain works? Just read.
>>20222234Sumika is an AI?
>>20222234For fuck's sake, anon.>>20222252No.
>>20222257Guess I will see for myself and keep reading. Sounds disappointing, I liked Sumika.
>>20222259Good, now get out of here.
>>20222257yes she is, real alt sumika was the brain, and they can't mind transfer, all they did was copy paste and killed the brain afterwardsso s00mika is just an AI
>>20222257honestly if you read extra thinking that Meiya is an AI it kinda makes sense. Shit starts disappearing and it kinda feels like Meiya is warping reality to her will. I thought that Takeru was plugged into some military computer in the BETAverse and the AI was trying to study him or reconstruct him or protect him or something. I also thought that maybe she was a BETA AI and he was in a hive and unlimited would start with him being rescued and disconnected
Nevermind, see no reason to keep reading when something so major was spoiled to a character I was invested in.
You've disappointed me quite a bit today, /mlg/.
https://twitter.com/maiyuki1929/status/1448652333693345800?s=21>To everyone watching Muv Luv for the first time.>You probably have no idea what alternative 4 or 5 is, or Hives.>I recommend you just watch newguy-kun that just entered the JDF base struggle while thinking about how he is going to fight the enemies,>Don't think too hard while watching, alright?>It's hard to understand,>but Yoroshiku.
I swear if Integrate has the new chara/suit design, I WILL BE MAD
>>20220609Well SM wasn't fun at all, but I personally preferred its more serious tone.TE got boring in the middle.
>>20218965>>20219045As soon as I heard that atrocious ED I wanted to do something like this.Once the series is done I fully intend to do a 'fan edit' of the whole thing. Maybe put in some more VN music in some scenes if it works, and possibly cut out some stuff if they add any character ruining dialog.Overall I am still pleasantly surprised by the anime though.
>>20222471What the fuck were they even thinking with that fucking ED?
>>20222338>Don't think too hard while watching, alright?fucking cringe
>>20222474Its so out of place I thought an ad had popped up on my TV somehow.
>>20222474>>20222501I actually like the ED, so I cope by liking it but admitting that it doesn't really fit muv-luv, especially Alternative.
so it's pretty much confirmed that this is not going to kashgar, right? there's no WAY with this pacing that they get that far
>>20222533Not in 12 EPs if that's what you mean
The ending is fine. You're cringe.
>>20222550yeah i mean in this current run. who knows if there will be a second run
Holy shit the adaptation is moving at ludicrous speed.
>>20222506I don't mind the OP, so I can relate
>>20222565Didn't one of that staff post a picture at his desk and there was an 'episode 17' script on the computer?Or was I being trolled?
>>20222533I think they must've hit some production issues or something which is why we've only got 12 episodes in this cour. The opening and trailers has them fighting BETA, despite the pacing pointing to them never showing up again in this cour. Which makes me assume their scheduling got fucked up and they just lost the second cour's timeslot which would've gone up to sadogashima(Though I don't know how well the pacing would be even with an extra 12 episodes to get there, since there's a lot of stuff to cover between the coup and Operation 21st)Otherwise they made marketing and an opening that are just straight up lies. Also kinda funny that they wanted to hook people in with an action packed 1st episode, only to then give a season that's mostly just people talking, training, and then a few mech vs mech battles near the end.
>>20222657 >they wanted to hook people in with an action packed 1st episode, only to then give a season that's mostly just people talking, training, and then a few mech vs mech battles near the end.I think you are looking too much into it and the answer is pretty much just that.Most of the trailer footage was from that first episode too, they just wanted something for Normie's to look forward too.
>>20222338>don't try to understand, just consoom
How the fuck is Kouki 5 million in debt? How do you fuck up so badly making visual novels?
>>20222657My brother works at Avex, second court will be Extra, screencap this post.
>>20222705Where did you hear that?
>>20222657Maybe they'll end it at CHOMP. How the fuck are they going to keep AOs around when the next 12 episodes it just going to be dialogue and beach parties. At least we'll get a bikini episode i guess
>>20222794>How the fuck are they going to keep AOs around they won't.
>>20222705I don’t know. I’d really like someone to do a deep dive of his work and Age’s history in general and how successful their games were. Didn’t seem like the gacha and spin off games performed well.
>>20222797reddit says otherwise
>>20222506I didn't mind the ED too. The first part of Alternative plays out like a new game plus anyways where Takeru breezes through basic training due to his circumstances.The upbeat images and song sort of fits, at least for now. I'll start complaining if the ED doesn't start to change when things start getting serious.
>>20222800I obviously can't get actual sales numbers, but schwarzesmarken 1 and 2 were #7 and #8 in 2016 digital sales on all ages DMM. #3 and #4 were steins gate 0 and chaos;child #21 was Kaziklu Bey and #35 was the all ages version of Tokyo Necro, so I'm pretty sure it was only the schwarzesmarken anime that bombed horribly. #1 was fucking Elder scrolls online
>>20222705>>20222755To me it seems like he could have meant Agé rather than himself.
Can someone who's skilled in editing replace the shitty OP and ED with the VN music from now on? I don't mind if I have to wait to watch the new episodes. I was almost unable to watch through the outro because of that awful excuse for music.
>>20222983Shut up. Holy fuck.
>>20222983Sure let me just replace all the voice acting with the VN lines as well while I'm at it
>>20222983I was going to do it once its finished airing so I can just do them all with a script.I might have a look at doing it as they come out
>>20222993That's a really interesting idea.Do you think the VN has enough voice material to actually try that.
>>20222983What the fuck do you want me to replace the ED with? It's unfixable. https://streamable.com/1y6hm9
>>20223010If you were super autistic you might be able to make it work, it depends how much they end up diverging from the VN plot.You could also try training an AI with the VN voices and redoing the anime dialog, this is also incredibly autistic but probably more plausible.
>>20223023>unfixableIts already been fixed>>20219045
>>20223031that literally is just an edit of both the op and ed to fit asu e no houkou
>>20223037Yes, what more do you want?
>>20223043Are you autistic? Can you read where this reply chain started? Want me to cut out the ED out of every single episode because some anon already used the footage for a replacement OP?
>>20223049>>20223049>Are you autistic? Yes
>>20223026autist here, what you could do is train the AI to look for specific spoken words in the VN, then cross reference them with the words being spoken in the anime. There's enough text so you might be able to do it, but it might sound pretty weird given that the tones wouldn't line up since you would be ripping the words from different sentences. If the AI can't find a sentence you can tell it to just use the anime word
This thread is cringe.
>>20223051Yeah that would sound pretty janky unless someone spends a lot of time editing it together smoothly.The deepfake voice idea is interesting but no idea how it would work with Japanese
>>20223062ah, yeah i guess you could train it based on the lines in the VN to attempt a deepfake. It might work?? I don't know if there's enough material, and I've never attempted an audio NN like that. could be really interesting though
>>20222983Someone already made 0-gravity one in jewtubehttps://youtu.be/e-2laGs9HM8That and asu e no houkouhttps://files.catbox.moe/nfhm9e.mp4
>>20223072Tama a cute. also the BETA look alright in that trailer.
>>20222993>>20223010>>20223051Just rip the all the voices in a clean enough format and send it to 15.https://15.ai/
>>20223089making the ai from scratch is half the fun though
>>20223092Is paying the thousands of dollars necessary to train a beefy-enough model also part of the fun?
>>20223094what thousands of dollars? just use the audio from the vns
>>20223105The thousands of dollars spent on compute time to actually train your model. Or if you don't want to give money to Bezos the thousands it would take to build your own rig.
>>20222474Nothing. It's just a soulless advertisement.Sad to see this is the final state of kouki who made an entire harem galge just to be an intro to his giant robot story.
>>20223118It doesn't take that much processing power to imitate speech
>>20223118i've only made pixel based CNNs and they seem to not take a super long time to train, i can't imagine that a speech based CNN would be much different... In fact, wouldn't it be way faster? Since you're just using like pitch and frequency or whatever audio is comprised of?
>>20223129>>20223134Rereading earlier posts I see the idea was to directly rip lines from the VN, I was proposing getting a model to generate arbitrary lines in the style of a given character, which could then be run with the anime script. Making something to recognize and rip voice lines probably wouldn't be that bad, I was more thinking the costs of getting SOTA (still not THAT great also 15 hasn't actually published his model) for voice generation.
>>20223134Speech data / time series in general also has memory so pitch / frequency features won't cut it. Will probably need to train an architecture with attention and quite a few LSTMs, and those don't come cheap re: training time.
>>20223197well that was the initial idea, then after the other poster said it wouldn't be great I said you can just train it to speak instead of lining up the sound for the word. Not sure on the complexity of it though, I've never worked with speech or text.>>20223203So I guess it would have to be a recursive NN like those text predicting ones?
>>20223222More specifically, an encoder-decoder arch similar to those used for pic related, but utilizing RNNs.
damn you guys are pretty smart huh
>>20223244Also, funnily enough, this talk of ours re: audio deepfaking brought to my mind Yuuko's audio shallow-faking program Meiya & co brought along to Kashgar to keep Takeru from worrying too much.AI's really progressed far this past 15 years, huh.
>>20220267you always lose the first match but you can win the second one if you do the opposite of what takeru usually does.
>>20222611people think it might be Alternative manga volume 17 since episode 2 took the manga opening
>>20223222>>20223244I've never worked with one, aren't they structurally the same as a traditional NN? it just has additional input tacked on at the end of the input array that is adjusted each run?
>>20222755It was for the entire 15 year period, and he also mortgaged his own home.
>>20223320Should be structurally similar (see pic related), but you get to replace the convolutional layers (filters, pooling and all that jazz) with something using e.g. LSTM or GRU cells.
>>20223343very cool, i'm writing a CNN from hand atm and i'm trying to sort out how to calculate delta weights on a kernel basis after back propagating the error (already done). Once I figure it out i'm hoping that it'll open a lot more doors for ai development fun
>>20223357Go for it!
>>20224136>posting a tranny
>>20224206are you sure we are talking about the right person? I think the thumbnail is just clickbait.
>>20220320>tsukuyomi and marimo h scenenice
>>20224583sr>011there's also one with yuuko but all of them are pretty garbage, shame cause there are so many of them
I'm not sure but Marimo's new voice just doesn't work. It's not like she is bad but I guess the original one really grew on me.
watched MLA anime because bored.found out the episode info till 12 or something, it's seems unreal.I mean, how the fuck MLA VN story to be rounded up in such short episodes?searched the anime VA & their list of work so far, seems not impressive.new threads soon?
>>20224647Easy explanation: The staff of the anime arent that passionate in adapting the series hence opting for a quick buck. The grasses and trees in the town as well as skipping Unlimited's Takeru's end itself already cemented that.
>>20224647>I mean, how the fuck MLA VN story to be rounded up in such short episodes?either it has a second season next year or they're just not adapting the entire thing like they did with TE
>>20224666not sure about skipping Takeru's end, but the 1st episode do have a light touch.maybe my memory just fuzzy abut that part, but let it sink for now.when think the episode so far, it seems like MLTE anime, but in a big 50% discount rate.
how the fuck do TSFs reload?are auto-reloading mechanisms built into the sub-arms or mounts or something?
>>20221915anon TDA is 90% SoL comedy, wotldbuilding and loredumps and 10% action, the same balance is kept for the other side stories
>>20222284this is what autism looks like holy shit
>>20224825The dude came here asking if something he saw was a big spoiler, and these dipshits responded with a truckload of even bigger spoilers. I don't blame him at all for getting discouraged.
>>20224834I never figured how this idiotic "I got spoiled => it's not worth reading now" train of thought works. Aren't you able to analyze shit on your own while reading and figuring out how the narrative functions? Do you REALLY have to rely on emotions and element of surprise to enjoy a story?
>>20224839Some people prefer feeling and surprises more than analysis. Others like both, but prefer one over the other. Still others just get easily turned off to a story when they're spoiled about something. Who can say?Just because it's not the way you read a story doesn't make it idiotic. Calm your autism.
>>20224839The fuck is wrong with you robot. Of course people care about the emotional moments that a story is trying to convey. You’re the one that sounds like an autistic robot that can’t understand emotions.