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So much for "never revisiting this part of Macross". Kawamori you hack.
Also, Delta movie thread.
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>>20216504
>"never revisiting this part of Macross

I didn't watch any Macross after Frontier, can I get a QRD?
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>>20216543
Apparently in the latest Delta Movie they hint at Lady M, the mysterious backer behind the main organizations from Frontier and Delta, someone trapped in Megaroad 1, the ship in which Hikaru and Minmay disappeared. The main bad guy's plot is to drag the ship out of the fold fault and kill her, she never shows up directly though
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Hijacking, is there a hq image of this shot from Flashback anywhere? Seems impossible to find anything more than potato quality.
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Is Macross dead?
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>>20216504
He just didn't have an idea of how to do it right until now is all.
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It is kind of weird that Lady M would be able to communicate with the outside world and organize this complex shadow organization instead of being like "hey, we're stuck here, can someone get us out?"
Like what have the civilians been living like for fifty years?
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>>20216551
noooooooo mari ijima dont sing aioboeteimasuka you dont sound the same anymore aaaaaa
https://twitter.com/ngtpromcrs/status/1124716689856368640
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>>20216551
Only Delta. The one backing SMS and Frontier Fleet was Zentradi transport mogul Richard Bilrer. A man who sought to make the galaxy smaller with Fold Quartz so Megaroad-01 can be found. He is Minmay's biggest fan.
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>>20216806
frozen and used as rations by Minmay
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>>20216806
I blame the military industrial complex
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIKxDYbu2FI
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>>20216806
Time may flow differently. Remember back in SDF Macross Misa made a comment a hours in Fold is like Tten days in real time.
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>>20216815
This is how I imagine that weird Twitter meme sounds IRL
>iMa AnAtA nO kOe Ga KiKoErU
>kOkO nI oIdE tO
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>>20216551
>Fold fault
So how are they even experiencing time or surviving for 40 years when trapped in hyperspace?
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I actually want this to stay the ending for the SDF crew. When has their ever been a revival that was good?
>>20216504
Old men are susceptible to nostalgia. Look at all the bands, or filmmakers, writing duos, etc that broke up and swore high and low they'd never revisit those old projects or people ever again. Then they get old and inevitably you get shitty new but backwards looking collaborations, retreading old material.
Kawamori is entering the primetime of his life for nostalgia. I worry about him digging up old corpses.
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>>20216815
what the hell
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>>20218724
I mean, it's still a self-sufficient colony fleet. They have their own self-contained food production and life support, the only then they'd run out of is fold fuel. But they're not going anywhere so it's a moot point
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>>20216815
the reaper comes for us all
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>>20216799
No. It's mostly just that nobody gives a shit about Delta apart from fans of the music (which is pretty good, tbf).
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I haven't watched anything since the one where the ship crashed on the planet, and I quit it because it was bad. The one after Frontier I think?

What is this and is it out and subbed? Should I go an get it, and get back in to Macross?
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>>20219679
Macross is one of, if not THE, best mecha franchises there is. Every show is standalone, but they do have some references to previous titles (especially Frontier). Watch order is
>Super Dimension Fortress Macross
>Macross Plus
>Macross 7
>Macross Zero (Technically a prequel, but watch it right before Frontier as they're related)
>Macross Frontier
>Macross Delta

All of them have movie versions, which range from recaps to wildly changing the show. Do you remember love? also called DYRL, is notable for being the movie version of the original show but having much better animation.
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>>20216815
I'm not crying
we're all crying in pain
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>>20216551
>she never shows up directly though
then that's just pure baiting and not actually revisiting
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>>20219679
>I haven't watched anything since the one where the ship crashed on the planet
you gotta be more specific this is in like 3 of the shows
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>>20216799
its idolshit with a token valkyrie since Delta
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>>20219696
I must be dumb since I never noticed the connection between Frontier and Zero, I remember a lot of DYRL flashbacks in Frontier but that's it
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>>20216815
Still better than "We Will Win" from Robotech.
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>>20220021
Zero is re-enacted in an episode of frontier and Sheryl was a descendant of the loli in Zero.
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>>20220021
Spoilers for this entire post
>They straight up film the Zero movie during the show
>Sheryl is the little girl's great granddaughter
>The scientist that took care of Ranka was related to them too, can't remember how exactly
>Bird Human is an effigy to the Vajra, which the Protoculture worshipped
> Parallels between Zero and Sayonara no Tsubasa's ending
Also I think Galaxy is what became of the company that built the Enemy VFs from Zero, the SV-51.
Another minor thing, it eases you into the CGI usage of Frontier onwards, even if the CGI in Zero isn't great. Makes up for it with choreography though
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>>20220310
The (((Galaxy))) meme is funny to me, because one of the companies that produced the SV-51 is made by IAI and Sukhoi.
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>>20220337
(((Galaxy))) is behind half the bad stuff that happens in Macross, while the other half is Protoculture oopsies
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>>20220310
Corrections:
Sheryl is Mao's grandaughter.
Ranshe is Ranka's mother. Grace was Ranshe and Mao's colleage. At the TV series novelization Grace made Sheryl an orphan as misplaced revenge on Mao for her disapproving on her thesis. Macross Galaxy Executive Board had Sheryl's parents killed as they were political activists against mandated cybernetic implants.

The SV-51 was designed Alexei Kurakin who also worked kn the VF-4 and VF-9 after detecting to the UN when it became clear the Anti-UN Alliance would lose. He joined General Galaxy, which was once a part of OTEC Company, founding Sv Works to build Slayer Valkyries on the the notion Humans will still fight each other.

General Galaxy is a megacorp that sponsored fleets like Macross 5 an all Zentradi fleet, and Macross Galaxy are which is controled by an subsidiary corporation.
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>>20219696
You again? How many times do you have to be told that DYRL is mandatory? Shove your watch order up your ass, idiot.
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>>20219696
I'm new to this post & its horrible where's DYRL?
Where's Flash back 2012? Also Gundam is better fuck right off you filtered ass crack.
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I'm very excited for Delta movie 2. Can't believe they're bringing Max back, I was really surprised and very happy to see. Also my nigga Exedol is back too, even better. Not sure how I feel about hinting at the Megaroad coming back, but I trust that it'll be done well enough.

>>20219696
>Macross is one of, if not THE, best mecha franchises there is.
This.

>>20220572
He literally mentioned it right below and honestly it's more important to watch SDF beforehand. I think it's an absolute travesty knowing how many idiots watch DYRL and ignore the series. It's more of a travesty he didn't mention Dynamite 7 or the other Macross 7 side material. This sounds like some schizo autism.

>>20220614
>Gundam is better
Sasuga DYRL fag, I bet it's the only thing you've watched. Go shit up every other shitty thread on this board about Gundam. Why do you fags have to invade and ruin Macross threads?
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>>20220673
I think you can just watch 3 episodes of SDF right until SDF-1 yeets itself into the pluto orbit and then skip straight to DYRL.
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>>20220572
>>20220614
>>20220673
I was only listing the main entries, so no side material. And as good as DYRL is, I feel like watching it without having watched DYRL robs you of some enjoyment. Same deal as the Frontier movies, first you need to watch the full show to love the characters, then you get to match the hype as fuck movies
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>>20220772
DYRL designs and scenes are referenced by other shows, so it's mandatory.
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>>20220695
Nah the Prometheus was a wreck in DYRL. The Sega game gave us a prologue.
https://youtu.be/dyVwXc5KTKo

>>20220785
Yes but in-universe DY is treated as an as a movie.

Since these series and Movies are treated Metafiction the truth is somewhere n between. Macross 7 meanwhile is consistent given it does not have an alternate take.
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>>20216738
From the official site @26:58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWkKdJ-OVyI&
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>>20220294
Mao Nome. She is Sheryl's grandmother.
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>>20222237
Delicious
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>>20220673
>Why do you fags have to invade and ruin Macross threads?
Because Gundam is objectively better than Macross.
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>>20222130
Wow, they really don't have the original cels or 35mm for Flashback, do they? Because it seems like it's forever doomed to be seen in VHS resolution.
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>>20222308
how lol
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>>20216856
>Only in Delta
>The one backing SMS and Frontier Fleet was Zentradi transport mogul Richard Bilrer
since Delta is the continuation then can we asume the zentradi guy is no longer canon?
what even is canon enymore in Macross?
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>>20222216
Ranka mommy yum yum
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>>20222216
>Write is The 117th Thivestigetion convoy

Deculture!
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Is Freyja really dead? does that mean walküre is over? no more songs?
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>>20222491
New album calls "Walkure Reborn"
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>>20222423
SMS and Xaos are different companies, why would the Zentradi guy not be canon?
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>>20220310
>>20220337
>>20220370
Well duh. Boeing and Northrop Grumman had a merger pre-SDF and were acquired by Shinsei Industries later down the line. (((Galaxy))) likewise absorbed Sukhoi and IAI.

SV Works/Guld Works have funding from General Galaxy and its pretty clear throughout.

I think the biggest funny meme is the fact that Kawamori essentially ignored Lockheed Martin throughout all of his alternate timeline and they're arguably one of the most influential military aerospace companies in existence on top of winning the last two design competitions.

Someone remind me to invest in Lockheed Martin for the NGAF competition in 5-10 years. I'm betting on them lobbying the government to death and winning yet another contract despite all the issues with the F-22/F-35.
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>>20222423
how dumb are you
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>>20222586
DIdn't Lockheed make the Invader?
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tfw you will never work at space Lockheed
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>>20216815
RIP.
She had amateurish problems with her attack and register breaks live when she was young
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtgdzsBBB1Y
She got better though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP2hzhnhyvk
>>20222805
If you managed to survive SDF you probably could have had any job you wanted.
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>>20220294
Wow it's been a while since I don't remember that ep at all
>>20220310
I never looked into Zero's backstory but why were their good guy and bad guy VFs?
>>20222206
>same last name
whelp, guess I'm retarded
Surprised Sheryl has a completely different hair color, wonder if they decided to give her that lineage halfway through the show airing
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>>20222586
>I think the biggest funny meme is the fact that Kawamori essentially ignored Lockheed Martin throughout all of his alternate timeline and they're arguably one of the most influential military aerospace companies in existence on top of winning the last two design competitions.
Macross has always had a naval aviation theme
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>>20223172
>I never looked into Zero's backstory but why were their good guy and bad guy VFs?
The arrival of the supervision army ship, the forceful globalization under the UN sparked a world war between the west and east.
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>>20223172
>I never looked into Zero's backstory but why were their good guy and bad guy VFs?
It was a continuation of the wars from before the UN government won and consolidated everything. Before the end of the war, details of the same overtechnology that the UN was investigating to develop new machines and refurbish the crashed ship into the Macross, also fell into the hands of anti-UN forces who ended up developing their own variable fighter.
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>>20223172
She probably got it from her father, problem solved.
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>>20223228
We also don't know who Mao married anyway. With the last two generations of men being fair-haired/skinned, it isn't beyond the realm of possibility for Sheryl to come out blonde.
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>>20223193
This is a fair point. It's a shame the F-35C is a crapshoot and a carrier-based F-22 was never approved.
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>>20222586
>Boeing and Northrop Grumman had a merger pre-SDF
Boeing is not mentioned in Macross lore at all.

>>20222759
Northrop Grumman or Northrom Grumman. Lockheed has no mention in Macross lore.
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>>20223231
you don't have to get married to have kids
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>>20223228
>>20223231
Sheryl's father was blonde in the Frontier manga Kiss in the Galaxy.

https://chap.manganelo.com/manga-mg100574/chapter-0
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>>20223231
Did Mao marry a man name Nome? If not then Sheryl's surname wouldn't be Nome if Mao got hitched.
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>>20223290
In some cultures, women can choose their surnames.
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>>20223288
>Kawamori interview
I forgot this manga had an interview with Kawamori, It's a shame it wasn't translated.

I'm posting the raws if anyone cares
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>>20223335
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>>20223284
Don't be pedantic.
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>>20223206
Not exactly. The Anti-UN was against centralization of power to a one world government. That is why it was called the Unification awar.

After Macross 7 the NUN started decentralization. As fleets and planets are so far away Earth can't administer them anymore. Earth supremacists started Civil War with false flag to control frontier planets. Frontier planets supported by fleets like Macross 7 resisted and defeated the coup plotters. This was dubbed the Second Unification War. This why UN Spacy was rebranded as NUNS.
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>>20222586
Lockheed lost the rights to Variable Fighter technology to Northrop Grumman and so it couldn't compete with any advanced fighter designs during World War III. With America destroyed by Space War I, Lockheed went defunct.
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>>20223345
That's it for Vol.1. Vol.2 has interviews with Aya Endo and May'n, and Vol.3 with Kikuko Inoue and Risa Ebata iirc.
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>>20223288
Mom looks like Alto.
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>>20223383
Stop making stuff up. Lockheed isn't mentioned anywhere in official Macross lore.
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An S-3 Viking refuels Focker in Macross Zero, so Lockheed did indeed exist in the Macross universe.
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>>20219995
Macross has always been idolshit
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>>20222491
They said that Walkure will still continue their activity. I feel like Walkure fans would have an easier time accepting Freyja's death if they kill her 5 years ago. Now that Freyja is dead and Makina's VA is going to be a mom I can't really imagine the out come of the next concert.
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>>20223425
>>20223269

Lockheed does exist in Macross, using a variant of its name (Lockhee).

Also, see >>20223732
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>>20219995
What a retarded statement.
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>>20224669
you can always tell when someone has never watched macross before, or is trying to "fit in" with some imaginary angry boomer clique on /m/ when they insinuate music was never a major part before delta
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>>20219995
>since Delta
Someone tell this anon
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>>20223732
>refuels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4pSjzI8BSw
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>>20224563
Nice image but Ranka's tits are too big here
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>>20224563
Where the fuck is Reina
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Samples of the ost.
https://www.jvcmusic.co.jp/flyingdog/-/Discography/A025373/VTCL-60550.html
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>>20225463
Dead and replaced by Mirage.
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>>20216504
pasting the spoilers

>>20201247
The Frontier short airs first: Ranka is still a pop star touring the galaxy but all the other Frontier people are with her and together they also go around investigating Protoculture ruins trying to figure out where Alto is.

Sheryl went into a coma at the end of the second movie and has remained in it ever since.

At one of her shows the local ruins react to Ranka's song and they go investigate the next day. She goes in and sings and the ruins react to her and make projections taken from her memories. A projection of Sheryl joins her in song. The ruins then shoot a beacon off into the sky and they figure it's pointing to Alto's location.

There's CG for Ranka and Sheryl singing at the end of this part and it looks very bad.


Delta

Walkure goes to Windermere for a concert to commemorate the peace, and then they go visit Freyja's village. Some mysterious enemy with a heavily modified Macross ship attacks and both Xaos and the knights get utterly trounced. Another new Macross shows up to save their asses and Walkure, Xaos, and red knight guy get on it and escape (the other knights either get shot down or left behind)

Turns out that the new Macross is captained by Max who has Exedor accompanying him as usual. He already retired from military service but got headhunted by Xaos.
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>>20226440
The enemy is a group called Heimdall led by a guy named Cromwell and backed by Epsilon.

Cromwell used to be with the NUNs and pushed for the use of more technology like AIs and cyborg stuff, but that tech was always quashed by Lady M. He ended up losing his home planet and all of his comrades in some battle and blames Lady M and her anti-technology stance for it, and wants revenge.

He's accompanied by a guy from Epsilon who previously stole star singer cells from Windermere and combined the results of using experimenting with them with a Sharon Apple type AI resulting in a thing called "Seiren" which is a super AI that can also sing harder than real singers that they have on their ship.

Lady M is actually "Lady Megaroad 1". Nobody actually knows who she really is aside from that she's someone on the Megaroad 1, which is stuck in a dimensional fault.

Heimdall's objective is to open a super fold gate to the Megaroad 1 and destroy it and free technological progress from Lady M (also revenge from Cromwell).

Seiren projects itself with a "virtuaroid" avatar (a hologram thing like Sharon Apple) and starts off as a girl with black wings all over, but when it starts losing to Walkure in a singing battle it copies them and turns into five dark copies of Walkure called "Yami_Q_Ray" (= Yami-kure, yami meaning dark).

Freyja starts dying from singing too hard.

Red knight joins Delta squad and says Sheryl's service line.

They have an exercise to train for fighting Heimdall's ghosts. Max jumps in with his blue Durandal and single-handedly defeats all of them. Mirage just kind of gives up after Hayate is defeated and floats there, and Max just casually shoots her on the way back to the ship.

Max and Arado both say that Mirage is clearly not ace material.

A Heimdall android was on the base before they arrived and infiltrates the ship's bridge. Arado manages to destroy it but gets an arm and leg broken in the process putting him out of the action.
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>>20226444
Max gets a bunch of other Macross ships to help out and they go after Heimdall. Freyja is dying so she gets benched.

Mirage becomes leader of Delta squad because it turns out Arado and Max totally knew that she's in fact leader material, not ace material.

The battle goes Heimdall's way because Yami_Q_Ray can sing harder than Walkure but Freyja returns and sings so hard that Yami_Q_Ray is moved by her and starts singing with Walkure. Hayate gets the same sparkly power up Alto did in Sayonara no Tsubasa.

All of Windermere (including the prince boy and the knights who got shot down or left behind on the planet) also starts singing along with them (the song is actually from their planet and about the legend of a girl who falls in love with the god of wind). The song makes all of their runes glow, including the dark Freyja virtuaroid's.

The Epsilon guy decides to take Seiren and bolt but Cromwell has his men gun him down. He decides to have a last stand and orders his men to abandon ship (looks like both Epsilon and Heimdall might return).

Hayate pierces the barrier and makes it into the Heimdall ship's bridge but Cromwell presses a button to fire the cannon at the portal leading to Megaroad 1 (the positioning also means the shot will graze Windermere and kill everyone on the planet). Max has his fleet open fire at the ship's wings and its shot misses and it blows up.

Hayate makes it out of the ship with Seiren's core, and finds that there was a baby inside it (clone from the star singer cells). Freyja dies from singing too hard.

Post credits is Hayate and the child now grown up a bit in the apple orchard in Freyja's village (it was razed when Heimdall attacked but Hayate recovered a single apple and promised Freyja that they'd regrow the apple trees together).

Also Max makes Arado captain during the final battle so that he can join the fight in his Durandal.
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>>20226446
the kid doesn't look like Freyja but DOES look like dark Freyja

>At the end of the movie Megaroad-01 apparently appears as well, with two familiar silhouettes shown.
The Megaroad is shown three times, once during the explanation by Max and twice when Heimdall opens the gate. The two silhouettes are seen twice during the latter two times but while they're obvious "hey look at THIS" moment they were too fast for me to actually make out who they were supposed to be.

Also the Megaroad seen in each of these cases is a single (fancy and detailed) static picture.

when Heimdall attacks Windermere immediately launches the giant protoculture ship and it immediately gets blown up (despite Heinz singing the same old song to power up the barrier)


The knights also job really hard.

I think one of the twins died. Both are shot down, and if I'm not mistaken only one is shown bandaged up and singing in the climax.


>Lady M has to be either Misa or Minmay.
Everyone is saying this but Minmay is a horrible dumb bitch and I really don't see how it could possibly be her

Also after Max explains the whole "we get orders from another dimension" thing red knight basically says "What? That's fucking retarded, why would you do that?"

Nobody answers him

Dark Freyja is paired with dark Mikumo

Dark Makina and dark Reina are dark gay

Dark Kaname is alone
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>>20226444
>Max jumps in with his blue Durandal and single-handedly defeats all of them. Mirage just kind of gives up after Hayate is defeated and floats there, and Max just casually shoots her on the way back to the ship.
Based I'm glad to see the old man still has it.
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The new album is out and track 10 (ALIVE) is the song that Freyja singnga till she dies
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>>20226568
Ok but will she leave behind a daughter for hayate to shag?
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>>20225994
Damn I really like the yamis' songs
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>>20226451
>dark gay
Deep dark gay?
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>>20224563
Fans on twitter were saying they don't think they can watch Minori on stage without crying.
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>>20225994
Didn't expect Yami_Q_ray's songs to be better than Walkure's. Diva in Abyss sounds really good.
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>>20226772
but I thought /m/ said Delta is unpopular?
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>>20226948
>/m/ is one person that lives in the west
/m/ doesn't think the same way japan does
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>>20224563
oh god oh fuck
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>>20226747

Hey buddy, I think you got the wrong planet, the fold rift is two systems down.
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>>20226772
She can't even stop herself from crying on the livestream night before the movie got released. I'm amazed that she was able to contain her emotions for 1 year long.
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>>20226463
The day he "loses it" is the day he'll die. As long as Max can fly, he can live.

Delta-era Max kind of reminds me of Mihaly from AC7 actually.
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>>20226776
I kinda miss the autotune they used in the trailer for Glow in the Dark. I wonder if the full version has it?
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>>20226948
Compared to Frontier, it definitely is less popular. Overall, it did quite average for shows airing in its year(s). If anything, WALKURE is the stand out part of its popularity, much to /m/'s chagrin. So obviously they would consider it unpopular, since absolutely no one would like Macross music, right?
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>>20227194
Hopefully, the song is 6 minutes long
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>>20227172
>Be renegade NUNS faction pilot
>Shooting up some 171s in your VF-30, life's good
>Suddenly unidentified contact on radar
>a VF-22? Must be some old colony defense fighter they keep around, time to shoot it down
>Only identifier is callsign "Skull 3"
>How bad could it be?
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>>20227194
>>20227202
Heinz vs Yami-Q-Ray version is a medley. Wow, wasn't expecting that. Actual song battle going on here. The best part is you can tell she's overpowering him without even having to have the context of the movie.

Prince Ketchup getting BTFO again.
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>>20227221
>https://vgmdb.net/album/114008
Sadly this one is barely 2 minutes
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Any links for the soundtrack? I would gladly purchase but they don't want my filthy money
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>>20227237
It'll be released on the 20th so next week
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>>20227234
So Ketchup-kun gets BTFO ultrafast. Fantastic. Welp, we already have an idea of Yamikumo's power from this alone.
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>>20227128
Fold you!
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>>20216815
Her vocal chords are probably fucked from her age. Also, being Japanese, she probably smokes like a fucking chimney.
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>>20226444
>Max and Arado both say that Mirage is clearly not ace material.
:(
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>>20226446
>>20226451
>Hayate raising a child that looks like Freyja so he can blast that c*nny when she grows up
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>>20227666
>Mirage becomes leader of Delta squad because it turns out Arado and Max totally knew that she's in fact leader material, not ace material.

Also nice trips, Satan. Guess Mirage will forever be BTFO. Even the movie pamphlet basically gives no character details other than the fact that she lost the Hayatebowl.
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>>20226259
does mirage sing in the movie?
is this what the spoilers meant by her "awakening?"
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>>20227237
2/3 Yami Q Ray songs on Minoringo's channel, and we heard bits of glow in the dark in the summer trailer

full tracklist on the amazon page

https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B09D8GBTCZ
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>>20227674
>The best part is when it comes to Windemerians the wait isn't very long
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>>20227707
Well she is good at strategic and tactical prediction. Which means she is going to be the captain of some new battleship.
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>>20227748
I blame her father. He diluted the ubermensch Jenius genes.
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>>20227819
Who're her parents?
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>>20227747
Based Hayate. He knows his c*nny
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>>20227868
Miranda Jenius is Mirage's mother. The brown haired kid. Father is a doctor.
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>>20227707
I kinda wonder why she wouldn't get with Hayate afterwards now that Freyja's gone. He could certainly use the help, couldn't he? Being a single dad is not easy.
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>>20228589
With some luck, maybe she'll want a sister and Mirage will encourage Hayate to give her one.
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>>20228589
Humans are monogamous animals. They die once their mate dies and never remarry.
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Stop remixing old shit, Macross needs its own movie.
Look what real fans can do:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsI6wFa0G4Y
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>>20228870
will south american boomers ever get past robotech?
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>>20228870
I mean, the CGI is visually impressive, but the story is kind of just nonsense.
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>>20226444
>He's accompanied by a guy from Epsilon who previously stole star singer cells from Windermere and combined the results of using experimenting with them with a Sharon Apple type AI resulting in a thing called "Seiren" which is a super AI that can also sing harder than real singers that they have on their ship.

Am I reading into it too much, or is this Kawamori (rightfully) shitting on how technology has essentially destroyed pop music?
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>>20229033
That can't be, since Glow In The Dark is actually good and its autotuned to hell and back.
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>>20229052
>NUNS agents, they glow in the dark
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>>20219828
what an uncomfortable feeling this is
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>>20216815
This is just sad to watch.

Fortunately, not everyone ends up like Mari Ijima. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU4-XxZirhA. For those of you who don't know her, that's Hiroko Moriguchi (the singer of Zeta Gundam's second OP, Eternal Wind, and the main theme of Gundam Origin 4, among various other songs) singing Eternal Wind in an 80s idol costume in her late 40s and still killing on it.
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聞こえていますか?この声が
泣いてますか?笑ってますか?
いつだってそばで問いかけ続けているから
瞳を閉じて耳澄まして記憶にいる私のこと
いつでも感じてほしい離さないで!
我儘かな?意地悪かな?
失いたくないよ
時間は少しずつ無くなってる
こんな時は顔を上げて進むしかないでしょ
覚悟はできた!
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>>20229368
Fuck, it still hurts. I'm not really sure if I want to watch the movie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne4XtWdf-mM
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>>20229033
Sounds like you're projecting some deep-seated issues that you should really get worked out with a therapist.
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>>20226451
Max's silence to that question points to Lady M being one of the SDF characters. There is no way they would just follow the words of some random colonist. The words of say, Misa or Minmay would stir them into action, especially since the Megaroad is officially known to the public as still "on its way" instead MIA.
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why would that dumb bimbo Minmay be Lady M?
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>>20229677
Misa doesn't know music.
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>>20229368
It's really cruel of them how they use Run ni hanasaku koi mo aru as an ED. Imagine listening to Freyja singing "Don't ever forget" and "Until the day we meet again" after all the shit they have been through. Nips said that the baby didn't only analyze from Freyja's data but also Max's so she's technically Max and Freyja's child and that shit make me want to punch Kawamori more.
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>>20229707
>she's technically Max and Freyja's child
LMAOOO
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>>20229707
So this is the power of NTR...
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>>20229707
It is Freyja's life story.
An up beat song that burns Freyja's image into everybody's heart for good, even if it is a bitter sweet end.
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>>20229673
Going by pamphlet given Lady M may or may not be a single person or a person at all.
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>>20229673
>>20229731
I assumed that "Lady Megaroad 1" means that the name refers to the ship and it might not actually be a woman.
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>>20229835
this
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>>20229835
That could work as well, a ship is traditionally referred to as a female

>>20229731
>Fold Fault
Isn't that already established in Frontier as areas within fold space that is difficult to traverse through, when you go through it, you spend more time traversing it than you would in regular fold space?
Dimensional Fault would manifest as that almost physical barrier that the Vajra Queen could put up, no?
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>>20229864
You don't traverse a Fold Fault you go around it. The reason NUNS can't just drop by Windermere is that area is choke full of Fold Faults. Megaroad-04 accidentally discovered Windermere as they had to make a long detour. On Ouroboros the Protoculture a Fold Fault phenomenon so it can keep sealed the last Evil Series, that wasn't possessed by the Protodevlin. It has the ability to manipulate time so they canned it. They so left a girl to administer the locks but after 500,000 years she is an amnesiac.
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>>20230184
You can traverse a fold fault with the super fold booster that they figured out in Frontier though.
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>>20230272
Yes but remember Fold Quartz is heavily regulated. To prevent Dimension Eater proliferation. The Vajra left already and whatever sources of Fold Quartz available are Protoculture ruins. NUNS has had one too many times things go wrong around those. Bird Human, Protodevlin, giant bugs on New Asia, Dyaus Guardians and Fold Evil on Ouroboros, and the mind control network of the Brisingr Cluster along with the Sigur Barrentz.

Grammar IV declared war on NUNS as the new treaty right after what Macross Galaxy did, blowing up Galia 4 and trying to take over the galaxy, heavily restricted Windermere from mining and selling their Fold Quartz. Unlike other worlds with Sub-Protoculture Windermere did not industrialize. Other than apples their only possible export was Fold Quartz and they were banking on becoming an economic super power. We all know what happens if you do not diversify your economy. Windermere is at the boonies due to their Fold Faults around them.

Then NUNS found out Windermere has been hiding a Protoculture weapon all along. Not taking any chances NUNS tried to have it blown up but Wright Immelman dropped it somewhere instead.
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>>20230326
Winderemere's economical situation would be pretty hard to get out of considering their average lifespan.
Just look at how long it takes for a human to finally end his/her education at an university.

Their lifespan demands that they shift everything forward to puberty/post-puberty age, and that fucks them up.
They need to get married possibly before puberty(9 year old? 10?) and shit out babies at around 12 or so. This leaves the couple around 10 years to raise their kid before marrying the kid off, and maybe they get another 5 years before they kick the bucket.
Should they go through the average human university education, this leaves them at around 25 or so, leaving at best slightly more than 5 years for them to contribute before they die, some of them might only survive 2 or 3 years after graduating at 25.
Winderemere is just all around fucked by their short lifespan.
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>>20219696
You know what fucking annoys me?
people say that ZZ is bad when no one bats an eye about original SDF Macross tv series.
IT WAS SO FUCKING BAD
Ok it has it's moments BUT 60% WAS FUCKING ANIMATED BY FILIPINOS OR GOOKS AND LOOK LIKE UTTER TRASH
seriously not only animation was so fucking bad the direction of the episodes and characters was all over the fucking place serious moments that was important for plot and characters looked often so bad it was just completely repulsive
>>20219679
watch Do You Remember Love instead it's a reimagining of the original plot with 10/10 animation and music
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>>20230412
>the average Windermereans are generally more fold sensitive than Terrans but that comes at the cost of their lifespan
>modern Terrans occasionally make monsters like Basara, Sara or Ranka without much downside
I'm wondering if the Protocultures who created the Windermereans put that as a limiter on them or just a sick joke
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>>20230412
Their short lifespan is part of the reason of their resentment of Terrans. Terrains are longer lived and has advanced technology making them the dominant race of the galaxy baring the Zentradi. At the same time they do not have runes and are weaker than they are.

No wonder they cling to the notion they are the inheritors of the Protoculture. They actually blame Terrans first contact making them aware their lives are really short.

>>20230549
Since Windermereans naturally have Fold Quartz they may have been an experiment on creating a Vajra-like hivemind. Remember the only reason other races were mind controlled is that they are all infected by Fold Bacteria from Vajra. wer

Meanwhile Terrans are more along the lines of a forgotten superweapon battery experiment since Sara Nome and Basara power up both the Bird Human and Protodevlin respectively.
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>>20230549
The Zentradi and Protodevlin happened. Don't want a repeat.
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>>20230549
>>20230611
They are also physically superior, Freyja can casually leap like an Assasin's creed character and Keith can jump out of an exploding VF to stab someone. Plus their runes and fold sensitivity let them interface with protoculture tech directly, they're like USB ports. Also they seem closely tied to the star singer which was some sort of entertainment/religious figure? So maybe they were meant to manage the temples. The short lifespan could probably be fixed in protoculture times since they mention the singer's genes hold the key to reversing crystallization, maybe back then they juat had to take some pills every month or something.
>>20230611
Only Ranka and Sheryl had fold bacteria right? And Sheryl was dying of space AIDS due to her infection, with Ranka bein g immune due to exposure in the womb.
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>>20230683
Everyone have the bacteria post Macross Frontier
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>>20230412
>Winderemere's economical situation would be pretty hard to get out of considering their average lifespan.
>Just look at how long it takes for a human to finally end his/her education at an university.

Check your lifespan privilege, Earthling!
If they have shortened lifespans, they are not going to do school the same way. Education would be more specialized, with no electives, less extra-curriculars, etc. Post primary education could be more like technical school, so 18 months to three years. They would have childcare set up so that they can still attend school while starting a family.
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>>20230683
https://youtu.be/NZic0uTI6V0
The Vajra left behind Fold Bacteria and it chose Humanoids to be its next host without making it terminally fatal. Though Var can make people very sick as seen with Messer that it affects internal organs. Bulging muscles and blood vessels is not exactly healthy.

The Vajra probably thought the Fold Bacteria will help humanity talk to them. Thing whenever they want to help there is body count. Stop helping!
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>>20230611
>Since Windermereans naturally have Fold Quartz they may have been an experiment on creating a Vajra-like hivemind
I thought it was pretty damn clear that was the case.
The Star Singer functions as the Queen of the fold network, the Winderemereans as the drones. With the Vajra spreading the fold bacteria to everyone, the list of drones just expanded to the entire galaxy.
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>>20230797
>The Vajra probably thought the Fold Bacteria will help humanity talk to them. Thing whenever they want to help there is body count. Stop helping!

Sorry but the video doesn't seem to imply that, just that the bacteria infested the humans because their original hosts exited this dimension and we were what was left. From that dialogue I got no impression that it was intentional on behalf of the Var
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>>20230549
>modern Terrans occasionally make monsters like Basara, Sara or Ranka without much downside
Only the mayans(the people in Macross Zero) were part of the Birdman experiment though. I remember a scene where a scientist talked about how their blood was different.
I'd imagine Basara was a descendant from one of the island people.

Ranka's mom was infected with the Vajra bacteria and she in turn gave that to Ranka while she was pregnant.
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>>20230861
It’s a big deal/source of trauma in Zero that one of the Nome sisters let someone take their blood right? It’s been ages since I watched Zero.

Sheryl has type Alpha Bombay blood as well if I remember right.
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>>20230871
Yeah. One of the island's taboo was letting their blood be taken, iirc another taboo was interacting with people from the outside. I'd imagine that was the rules in place by the original Protoculture scientists that made them to prevent their fold wave transmission capabiliting from spreading(and being diluted by normal human genes)

Outside of Vajra bacteria infection, the humans that do exhibit fold wave transmission capabilities are most likely descendants of the mayans.
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>>20230913
Are we counting the likes of Minmei and Mylene too?
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>>20227707
>be grand daughter of two of the best pilots of all time
>not that great at it
Shamefur dispray
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>>20230549
Well, Ranka's a unique case. She's infected with V-Type, which in everyone else causes VARS. I wonder what her natural Bio Fold Wave production would be like without it?
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Is watching the Delta recap movie enough to be prepared for this? I haven't heard a lot of good things about the series.
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>>20230940
Nonexistent probably. I just assumed her being infected in vitro gave her her abilities
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>>20230913
Macross Chronicle Worldguide 3A Birdman
Mayan Shrine Maidens
Among the majority of Earthlings, who lost their space-time resonance abilities due to gene manipulation, they are from a family in which the space-time resonance abilities remained in order to regenerate and activate the Birdman. They have the beliefs of the Protoculture and Birdman at the genetic level. Also, it's said that families with identical abilities exist in various places on the Earth.

Primitive Humans had Fold Receptors but was deactivated for the majority as the Protoculture survey ship left. It never came back as it was destroyed by anti-Stellar Republic forces. But they left behind the Bird Human to monitor humanity. If humanity went to space and were warlike it had orders to terminate them.

It was just one lucky break after another. Sara Nome stopped the Bird Humsn from destroying humanity like what happened 10,000 years before when the head cockpit separated from the body. Mayan legend has it a woman came out of the neck of the Bird Human and married the first man.

The Protoculture had a habit of leaving women in stasis pods to administer their projects like Mins Forte and the Star Singer.
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>>20230940
I'd like to think it boosted her latent ability similar to Sheryl, we'll never know her now that everyone has the bacteria
And I'm not counting Basara who I like to think is on another level
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>>20230978
Right. Sheryl has heavily diluted Mayan blood, so it makes sense that she was already a low-level emitter and only got stronger as her infection worsened.
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>>20230927
Think beyond.
Imagine a fleet runs only by Max and Milia's bloodline.
Imagine they secretly controlled the UNF.
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I just watched it. Not very good with Japanese and only watched Frontier with Delta, so I think I miss lot of information.
I was very sad when Freyja gone, but keep thinking this is how they keep the idol purity while give her and her bf a child. They are not very subtle when with that scene, Hayate hold the child, while Freyja laying down and see its face, discovering that the child has the same rune as her, basically 1:1 with the typical wife death after childbirth.
Also kinda disappointed that Yama Walkure only there to sing without any dialogue, before watching I though they are rival idol group not literally vocaloid-tier
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>>20230963
I guessed so, it wasn't entirely unique to the Mayan people and various old bloodlines still persisted
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>>20230963
I didn't know she was a 500k years old Protoculture in origin
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>>20230925
They're not particularly powerful, fold-wise. Minmay's success was simply because the Zentradi did not know music, no fold shenanigans in her songs. Same deal with Mylene, she needs the amplifiers to do anything, Basara is the only one with any significant power
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>>20231048
>Idol purity
Have you paid attention to the lyrics of Walkure's songs? None of them are pure
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>>20231048

Ok this whole movie doesn't explain how the HELL! did amazon feel the need to put this in the hayta fighter when i was buying a VF.31 in 2019 after the first movie come out.
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>>20231135
ikr? They're pretty spicy.
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>>20227216
>the idols start singing latin
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>>20227216
>>20231474
>Dab on some local VF-171s in your VF
>Suddenly a pair of blue and red VF-1s show up on radar
>Gee, who brought the stunt planes here?
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should i buy this or wait for new kits from the movie?
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>>20231563
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So do the movies fix the problems with Delta?
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If the number one problem with Delta was Freyja, then yes.
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How many movies are there supposed to be? 3? Because reading the spoilers this already feels like the last one.
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>>20231923
There's only two Delta movies. This newest one is the second.
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>>20231923
There was always supposed to be 2 and this is the second, retard.
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>>20231474
Macross game by Project Aces WHEN
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>>20231568
This is the old kit though.
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>Mao didn't win
>Ranka didn't win
Maybe it's just a coincidence, that's all.
>Freyja won
There we go. Perhaps he doesn't dislike...
>Freyja is dead
Literally no words. Why you gotta be so aversive to cute little girls, Kawamori?
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>>20231125
If we go by Berger Stone's line of thinking it was rationalized as mere Culture Shock but there mayb have been more to it. Macross 30 does confirm Minmay is a Fold Receptor. Macross Chronicle plainly states there are other parts of the Earth that had Fold Receptors in their lineage.

Also Do You Remember Love was a Protoculture song that awakened Zentradi instincts towards civilization. As that song is in Zentradi genetic memory. 500,000 years before the Star Singers sang that song. As seen with a brainwashed Mikumo in Passionate Walkure where she sang Do You Remember Love in the original Protoculture language. The Protoculture leave genetic memories in their offshoot races. This explains language and culture similarities spanning light-years between Terran Mayans, Windermereans, and Zentradi.

https://youtu.be/wckZcVFLU24
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>>20232289
>instead of how they had macross skins in Infinity they have ac reference skins
>pixy VF-19
>Razgriz VF-1
>pic related draken iii
I need it
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>>20232376
He's a cultured man who appreciates hopes and dreams
>>20232657
Zentradi were affected vy all forms of culture, not just DYRL. Remmeber Warera, Loli and Conda? Or the kissing scene?
>>20233231
>Mihaly Kairos
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>>20232376
>Literally no words. Why you gotta be so aversive to cute little girls, Kawamori?
Kawamori was butthurt by everyone hating Delta so he killed Freyja off.
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>>20233772
That's really just in the west.
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>>20232376
>Freyja decided to sing even if it's going to kill her
>Hayate who once told Freyja to stop singing accepted her wish and let her live to the fullest
I feel like Kawamori just love this kind of shit. Making Hayate a single dad without letting his dick get wet is kinda too much though. Especially after people from Freyja's village tell them to hurry up and fuck. Still want to watch the movie because I want to see Freyja kiss Hayate on the cheek.
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Just ordered my first Valkyrie collectible. I'd prefer DX but they're too goddamn expensive, and apparently the transforming model kits suck, so I went with pic related.
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>>20233996
A human/winderemerean hybrid might be the fix to winderemereans' short lifespan.
Maybe reduced rune effectiveness and not a superhuman like the average winderemerean, but longer lifespan and the human fold receptor gene(+Vajra bacteria) makes up for the reduction in fold wave sensitivity.
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>>20233996
Hayate got to have hit that Winderemerian pussy once during downtime right...?
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>>20234083
>>20234191
Not even once, the baby is not related to Hayate in anyway. And we know they never fucked because Windies have to be extremely fertile. The females probably have a vise grip reflexive leglock, and they must be super likely to get pregnant after one shot, with shorter pregnancies too. They probably see contraceptives as heresy, since they lives are so short they HAVE to pop out kids right away. Notice that even the characters that were obviously gay never acted on it, because sex not pro procreation would get them tried for treason
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>>20234368
I'd imagine they have higher chances of twins or triplets as well.
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Freyja's solo
>I love you
>I never forget your cunning face when we first met
>I also never forget how my heart were pounding so fast that I can't sleep when you told me you love me
>Every memories with you are like jewels that dress me up
>You are the one who made me into a special girl
>I love you
>No matter how many time I reborn I will always come back to fall in love with you
>I entrused my words to this love song and hope that it will reach you
>The silhouette of us walking on the beach with barefoot in the evening
>It's probably snowing in my hometown right now
>Seasons and periods will never stop changing
>But just like the apple seeds that will grow into a big apple trees
>The tears that falling out right now will also bring you a happiness someday
>It's alright
>The sky is high and full of stars
>The sea is blue
>The flower is white
>The song is living inside the wind
>I love you
>I don't care if I'm losing my voice
>I just want to send this song to you
>The only one love song in the world
>The only one love song in the galaxy
>The love song that burned my life, I dedicated this love song to you
>I love you
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>>20232289
After AC8, if ever.

Hopefully Harmony Gold won't fuck up this one.
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Winner
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>>20234537
I love the VF-3000
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>>20234004
I've been looking at the Arcadia milia vf-1 myself. Just can't justify 200 smacks for the normal one when I'm already getting the 120 dollar robot damashii of the new eva 02.
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>>20234440
Kawamori please...
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>>20234690
>Milia Arcadia VF-1
Do you mean the VF-1J? If so there is a KO of her's & Max's VF-1J by a company called Valkyrie Factory. You can still find it for about ~$130 on Aliexpress.
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Can I get a quick rundown of Frontier and Delta?
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Someone reporting on 2chan says he paid attention to the silhouettes in the Megaroad 1 and one looked like Misa but the other is clearly too short to be Minmay, and he speculates that it's Misa's daughter.

>今日2回目見てきたけど女性二人に見えた
立ってる方が未沙で窓に手付いてるのが娘の方かな
>ミンメイにしては背が小さい感じだったし
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>>20235172
Yeah I did I just dropped the J. How are the knock offs?
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>>20235834
>Frontier
Alto is a pilot student in Frotnier fleet flying stunts, childhood friend Ranka works as a waitress and Sheryl is a galaxy-famous idol that just arrived in Frontier. Suddenly fleet is attacked by space bugs known as Vajra. Much fuckery ensues, mostly due to (((Galaxy))) being behind everything, along the way Alto joins a PMC known as SMS and Ranka becomes a popular idol in Frontier. Eventually humanity makes peace with the Vajra and they fuck off to another galaxy
>Delta
Walkure is an idol group working in the Brisingr sector, basically the space boonies. There's outbreaks of "Var syndrome" all over the sector, basically people go berserk and start killing everyone nearby. Walkure's singing cures it. Freyja auditions for Walkure and manages to get in, Hayate is a drifter that joins Delta flight, the VF squadron that escorts walkure on their missions. Eventually they discover that Var is caused by the Windermerians, butthurt kingdom Freyja is from. They declare war on NUNS and use their mindrape tech + protoculture tech to great success. Eventually Walkure out-sings their mindrape singer and they blow their protoculture battleship the fuck up
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>>20229345
>Zeta Gundam's second OP, Eternal Wind
I think you mean F91
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>>20216551
great, now i apparently have to finish delta after all so i can understand what is going on.
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>>20236222
Thanks senpai. Never really gave much thought to either series before but this thread about the Delta movie seems bretty cool. Going by this run down it looks like Delta > Frontier, at least to me.
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>>20236314

Frontier is generally accepted as the better of the two, for a wide variety of reasons.
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>>20236314
Frontier is the best macross out of every show, ignore the DYRL boomer fanboys
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>>20236334
>wide variety of reasons
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>>20236349
It's the 25 year anniversary show, it's got tons of great references and subversions to the previous shows. It's got amazing characters, sick as fuck designs, the highest stakes out of any show in the franchise, the most epic action, incredible choreography, best girl in all of Macross, best love triangle, some of the best songs in Macross, incredible visuals, comfy as fuck setting, interesting plot without much "fantasy" or "space magic", all the fold shenanigans are treated as a science and explained
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>>20236349
You've gotta concede that the VF-31 is sexier than the VF-25. The 25 looks fine in battroid, but I really don't care for it's fighter mode very much. It's like the VF-1 or VF-0 became a teenager and outgrew its own body.

The cockpit area is just a *bit* too long, and the main fuselage is just a *bit* too wide. It just looks *awkward* and the VF-31 looks very good in all of its modes.
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>>20216815
>aioboeteimasuka
Song's overrated. Tenshi no Enogu is her best one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXpXft6AD8U
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>>20236397
I share your opinion, except what I dislike in the 25 are the wings and those little spikes pointing forward at the base of the wings. There's a VF-25 variant with Delta wings (I think it's the tornado pack variant?) that looks a million times better
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>>20236439
I mean I don't like those either, but the proportion issues were my bigger gripes. The YF-24 has delta wings as well, and looks great.
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>>20236397
YF-29 > both
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>>20236433
Yeah, it's a great song. I wish we could get more covers of the originals... https://files.catbox.moe/nh50co.mp4
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>>20219696
>forgetting Macross II
II, DYRL, Plus, and the original are the only Macross worth watching.
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>>20236536
Meh, I've never been a fan of the outboard engines by default. They look wrong to me for some reason. That said, the 29 solves a lot of the issues I had with the fuselage of the 25, it's a bit less thick.

The nose is still way too long in proportion to its cockpit though, and the OG color scheme is super toyetic.
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>>20236548
>>20236347
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>>20236477
do we have any picture of the 24 or just that quick glance at the schematics?
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>>20236365
Got curious and looked into and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCxpVwenYec I think gives me a pretty good idea of it. I absolutely hate characters like Sheryl and Alto really seems like a wishy washy ass which I also don't like well surprisingly Ranka who I always thought would be some kind of moe blob actually looks like she would be good and fun. Like I said before this thread has kind of brought me around to Frontier and Delta but Delta seemingly because of the movie and specifically Freyja make me think I'd enjoy Delta a hell of alot more than Frontier.
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>>20236347
Based. MF is still my favorite thing Macross after all this years.
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>>20236711
>I haven't watched it but let me tell you what I think
nice wall of text, pretentious delusional fag
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>>20236711
Never go full retard.
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>>20236733
>discussion of a anime
>on a anime board
Are you upset?
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>>20236314
If you intend on catching up with the latest Delta movie you'll need to watch Frontier
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>>20236744
This isn't an anime board and talking out of your ass isn't discussion.
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>>20236764
Thanks for the heads up. Wonder if/when 7, Frontier, and Delta will get US releases? We final got a real SRW so someday sooner rather than later?
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>>20236744
Ignore them. All they do is go into every thread and do 'lol nerd' tier posts.
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>>20236334
Not just that, Frontier is without a doubt the fan favorite entry in the series.
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>>20236770
if I had to guess it's going to still be a while.

You can stream them on YoutubeYou don't need to do much searching before landing on translated, playlisted series.
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>>20236744
>>20236773
you have to go back
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>>20229520
Reddit post
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doing culture with my zentradi wife!
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>>20236222
>childhood friend Ranka
isnt the first episode of frontier the first time they ever meet?
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>>20237992
That anon was going by the movie canon.
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>>20237992
They met before in the movies but still I believe it was when they were in High School so not really childhood friends either. Sheryl meets him when they're kids so she has her beat in that also.
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>>20238140
Childhood friend loses to Highschool sweetheart is the current trend in nip anime.
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>VF-31AB Kairos with delta wing for Delta
>VF-31JCEFS Siegfried with forward-swept wing because "W"alkure
That works.
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>>20238622
I mean, there's also the fact that FSW helps with agility at low speeds, which is exactly the kind of environment Delta flight needs when operating in populated areas, their main purpose
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>>20229345
I can still of this first when I read "eternal wind".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEHoqnUSKps
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>>20233996
>>Freyja decided to sing even if it's going to kill her
>>Hayate who once told Freyja to stop singing accepted her wish and let her live to the fullest
That's literally Sheryl and Alto from Macross Frontier
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>>20234368
>The females probably have a vise grip reflexive leglock
I need me some of that
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>Freyja sings too hard and is gone
Literally Sheryl again
Come on Kawamori
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>>20238965
Sheryl gets better.

Freyja is dead.
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>>20239003
She's still sleeping in the new short that takes places 8 years later. She may as well be dead
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>>20234368

On the other hand, despite having a biologically shorter lifespan than humans have they mature at the same rate and culturally treat people the same across the same age brackets (i.e. kids up to about 12, teens until about 20 and only adults from then on). So why would any other part of their culture we don't see be any different?
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>>20239022
>She's still sleeping in the new short that takes places 8 years later
Have you paid attention to the credits to Sayonara no Tsubasa?
Its not just music playing over the credits.
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>>20239034
The ranka there is a young ranka
A retcon or a dream in the labyrinth of time
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>>20239031
They mature much faster, the 30-ish year old guys we see look 50-60. And culturally they go faster too, on her 15th birthday Freyja mentions on her previous couple of birthdays she had to hide from the mayor pressuring on getting married already. So they're expected to get married and have kids at 10-12
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>>20239081

Yeah, not really. Bogue, the twins etc. all look around the late teens, act like teens and are treated as teens for the most part beyond being soldiers. Which is not unusual historically for humans. It's also not like teenage girls in many places aren't expected to be in relationships too, and the fact Freyja, looks, acts and is treated like a teen by pretty much everyone in the show kind of undercuts the point if she's meant to be more mature than she looks.
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>>20238854
That's why I said he love this kind of shit. People are also saying that conversation from shutter scene is very similar to Alto and Sheryl's conversation from episode 22. And there're more. Maybe Kawamori is just a hack. Who know.
>>20239022
What make me more mad about this is the fact that Ranka still seems to love Alto after 8 FUCKING YEARS.
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>>20239105
>Maybe
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>>20239105
>Ranka still seems to love Alto after 8 FUCKING YEARS
What is the problem with that?
She doesn't have a dedicated partner nor she is doing anything with Alto.
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After reading all these spoilers I guess I should be grateful my fav, Ranka, is well and alive in the movie version.
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>>20230499
I give Macross more leeway because it's a fresh franchise. The sakuga does have peaks and valleys but it's watchable, and the designs are good. The writing is interesting, and though it doesn't stick all its landings it was a fun ride.
ZZ on the other hand is a sequel to a rather more grim/serious show, and it took half its runtime to get better, the production quality is miles better tho
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>>20239105
>What make me more mad about this is the fact that Ranka still seems to love Alto after 8 FUCKING YEARS.
I still love Gigil after longer than that.
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>>20239505
I cried at his death harder than Fokker's.
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>>20239493

The producers funding Macross fucked with the show quite a bit too. It started out as a year long, 52 episode show and then at some point in production they got cold feet on a year long project, slashed the budget and cut the episode count to 23 episodes and then after the show debuted to almost immediately great numbers they demanded that the studio add more episodes. Which is why the story as such ends in episode 27, but we get an epilogue that explores the fall out of all that which extends another 9 episodes.
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>>20239538
Come on people...
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I watched SDF, Plus and Zero. Never finished Frontier, should I pick the series up again? Is Delta actually good?
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>>20239797
>should I pick the series up again
watch 7 and the Frontier movies
that’s all I can recommend, never got through the Frontier series, never saw Delta. Although I’ll probably be watching the Delta movies when the second one is subbed
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>>20239797
Frontier was my first series, watched it while it was airing. Despite those nostalgia goggles when I went back and re-watched it I found it to be relatively weak.
I love Klan and Michael but that's about it. It's an okay series and I'm glad I've seen it, but feels pretty lackluster compared to the previous ones.

Macross 7 is still my favorite series by far, M7 Dynamite is probably my favorite thing to come out of Japan.
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>>20239921
Based and Dynamite Explosion pilled
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>>20239736
>He doesn't like Macross thew way I do
>must be a troll
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>>20240019
>He doesn't recognize Gigil's final song.
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>>20240039
Er... first song.
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>>20240039
I re-watched a chunk of M7 recently and I was surprised by how much Gigil sang things other than POWER TO THE DREAM.
That's the part that apparently lodged itself hardest in my skull.
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>>20240216
I wish the VA could sing the song in his own voice not character voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT_6LagfLvI
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>>20222586
Obviously Macross is the glorious future we would've had if Lockheed-Martin didn't take over Boeing and wear it as a skin.
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>>20240234
I had no idea he was so talented and just assumed his Gigil performance was what he was capable of.

I'm a sucker for character songs though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cUC4qg1O-o&ab_channel=athanasia13
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>>20240373

I don't even remember the context or outcome of that episode, but I instantly just feel sorry for whatever dumb sonovubitch tried to talk Millia hostage.
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>>20238854
God I love Sheryl so much
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>>20240373
God I love gamlin so fucking much.
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I like Freyja
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>>20241032
She's just so lovable
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Why does >>20241032 die well >>20240405 doesn't?
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>>20241143

Because being from an alien race with a short lifespan defines her.
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>>20241143
Because Sheryl is best girl in all of Macross, while Freyja is just a candidate for best girl in Delta
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So what comes after Delta?
Are we getting new series? I remember reading something like that..
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>>20241289
we're closing in on the 40 year anniversary, so that'd be my guess
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>>20241289
wishful thinking but I hope the 40th anniversary answers all questions providesclosure.
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>>20229345
If we're just talking old people that have retained their voice Ichirou Mizuki had it pretty good until his recently announced break.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atlst0OHXNE
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>>20241032
same
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>>20241032
I love Freyja!
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>>20242035
I love you, anon!
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For a moment I thought I was on /a/
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>>20241271
>Because Sheryl is best girl in all of Macross
I wish I could see the appeal in Sheryl. I didn't back when MF came out and I still don't.
Best girl always loses in Macross.
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>>20241271
>Because Sheryl is best girl in all of Macross
I'm enjoying Sheryl more than I thought I would but for me it's still very much pic related.
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>>20242723
>>20242736
>Good looks
>Good design
>Strong will
>Assertive
>Extreme gap moe
>Hopes and dreams
>Supportive of Ranka and Alto throghout everything
>Amazing songs (not the best in Macross but still good)
And the movies make her even better.
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>>20242723

> Best girl always loses
> Millia wins
> Misa wins
> Isamu wins
> Sivil & Emilia both came about as close to winning as anyone does in M7
> Sara wins
> Sheryl wins
> Klan even wins in the movies

I'd say best girl wins just about every time. Delta is one of the few times it doesn't happen, but then again, while Mirage has a cool design she was mostly a boring lump so she kind of deserved it, and I don't even know that I'd say Delta had any best girls. Freyja started really fun, but within 5 or 6 episodes the show was falling over itself to prop her up and it just became obnoxious, Mikumo starts cool, but also becomes a boring lump as the writing constantly tries to make her seem mysterious without actually ever evolving the character, Kaname is mostly defined by her relationship with deadmeat, the yuribait duo are just yuribait without anything else of note to characterize them etc.
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So I guess nobody cares about the Yamikure songs? They’re out.
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>>20239034
The new short has her still in a coma when Ranka has ALREADY GROWN UP. The Sayonara ending has Ranka still young, it’s a dream or vision or something.
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>>20243636
gib
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>>20243653
>it’s a dream or vision or something.
Watch the Sayonara no Tsubasa BD, all the way at the end after the credits. Kawamori made it incredibly obvious by adding that additional scene after the credits because people like you couldn't figure out what happened at the end.
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>>20243636
Where? I don't see it on nyaa
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>>20243744
Literally got released 43 minutes ago, give it time
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>>20243636
>>20243691
it's clearly been retconned
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>>20242786
Today I will remind them
https://ghostlightning.wordpress.com/2011/11/05/sheryl-nome-is-the-most-awesome-woman-in-animemacross-frontier-the-wings-of-goodbye/
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>>20243797
I can respect their dedication
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>>20243797
>The Sixth of Six Posts on Macross Frontier The Wings of Goodbye

Wow they gots lots to say
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Ost is out
https://hikarinoakari.com/macross-delta-the-movie-zettai-live-original-soundtrack/
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>>20244015
>all the effort went to Yami_Q_Ray's songs
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>>20244015

> Not only heterochromatic, but the sclera of each eye is a different color

Heterochromia is already pretty awful looking, but she looks like she's taken a few punches recently to boot.
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>>20244015
isn't it missing the 20th song?
https://vgmdb.net/album/114008
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>>20244100
yep, its missing the medley by some reason
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>>20244100
I think that's an itunes exclusive
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>>20244139
>>20244147
Actually, I think it's a CD exclusive because all the shops are listing it
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>>20244181
So we are two songs short? Fugg
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>>20244220
>20 ABSOLUTE LIVE!!!!!! Medley
only the last one
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>>20244015
Where'd all the autotune from the teasers go? What a shame.
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>>20244242
It's also missing Glow in the dark -Yami_Voice Short Edition-
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>>20244147
Track 20 is the medley.

https://twitter.com/FlyingDogInc/status/1450310894320185347

21 is a different version of glow in the dark

https://twitter.com/ryuu25713/status/1450488671275159552
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>>20244387
Fuck, any idea of how to get them? Especially the short edition
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>>20244387
>1:20
kawamori my balls why must you crush them
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>>20244408
Looks like you can get the medley on CD or iTunes https://music.apple.com/jp/album/1586999939?app=itunes&ls=1 . The way it's grayed out on iTunes implies you can't get it separately and have to buy the whole album to get it. The short edition was available as a digital preorder bonus.

also, digital preorders can go fuck themselves. It's not like they'll run out. It's just a way to drive up presales.
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>>20244408
2/2 Someone will eventually rip the CD, there are no shortae of *good groups that do quality rips and scan the liner notes, unlike >>20244015

Holding out hope someone who preordered will share the shortened Glow In The Dark, or at leastupload it.
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>>20244387
> スペシャル音源「Glow in the dark -Yami_Voice Short Edition-」をもらえるのは本日23:59まで お見逃しなく
>pre-order only available until the october 19th 23:59
Fuck it, it looks like a lost media to me
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>>20244515
And the album version isn't heavily autotuned like >>20244333 pointed out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc0ZLWb3OVE

The song still absolutely crushes but I would have loved to have a version like the one in the trailer and the 5 minute teaser
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>>20244548
Maybe the autotune of Glow in the Dark was the itunes' pre-order bonus
God damn it, pray that we'll get some bonus in the BD release
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>>20243636
you might want to share that
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>>20244756
>>20244015
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>>20244481
>>20244756
>https://nyaa.si/view/1445950
with the medley, still no bonus track from itunes
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God damn, the yamis are great, they deserve a full album
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>>20245041
Please. I liked these three songs more than half of Reborn
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>>20242823
>Minmei loses
>Gamlin more or less loses
>Lucy loses
>Ranka loses
>Klan super loses
I've yet to touch Delta, but maybe I should. I put Plus off for ages because I didn't think I'd enjoy it. Ended up being one of the most spectacular series I've seen, even if it has nowhere near as much weight as Dynamite.
Can't say I expect Delta will have the same luck but eh.
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>>20245041
I'm for this, how the fuck the Evil idols group is so much better than Walküre???
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>>20246650
programmed to SING HARDER
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>>20244089
>Yamifreyja is a 1 year old AI's coldsteel version of Freyja
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>>20241032
Hayate pls I do too surprisingly, I expected Mikumo to be my favorite since she was the most similar to Sheryl at a first glance but it ended up being Freyja and Kaname
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>>20244855
thanks anon
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I should commission something Macross related at some point. I don't know, maybe have Basara discovering a planet named Dance or something.
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We should make a macross general desu
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>>20248734
I would, but 4chan won't let me post images
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>>20248734
What's wrong with normal threads?
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>>20249270

Only Gundam is allowed to have normal threads, obviously. If anything else has more than one thread at a time, then it might push one of the 50 Gundam threads off the catalog.
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>>20249311
Jesus fuck that's like transformers on /toy/



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