Can you watch Hathaway if you know absolutely nothing about Gundam?
>>20205404If you just wanna look at pretty pictures sure but if you wanna understand why literally anything is happening no. It's a direct sequel to CCA, which itself is the sequel/finale of the original seasons. Hathaway assumes you know Gundam and doesn't really explain or recap any relevant information.
>>20205404No, you get various quizzes during the movie and if you answer incorrectly the movie pauses and an image of Tomino's disappointed face burns into your screen.
>>20205404Stop being an asshole and watch the superior older series.
>>20205404it's a direct sequel to Char's Counterattack which is a direct sequel to Zeta Gundam which is a direct sequel to 0079
>>20205404Honestly, yea.You’ll miss some references, but yea, knock yourself out.If you want some help there are psychics in Gundam that people call “Newtypes” and Tomino, the series creator, believes true communism can only be achieved if humanity evolves
>>20205485>>20205454>>20205421Sorry, I know I probably should start with the originals but I hoped I'd be able to dip my toes in the Gundam universe with a flashy brand new movie like this and then go back to those
>>20205404no, it's like reading the ending of lord of the ring books without reading any of the story first
>>20205538Then why start with UC Gundam? It is the most lore heavy timeline of the entire franchise.If you want something modern looking, then why not try an "Alternate Universe" Gundam like "Gundam 00". It was well-received by fans, and has really great animation. It should give you a taste for Gundam and mecha battles.
>>20205543Hathaway is nowhere near as complex a story reliant on what came before it as Return of the Kings is to LotR.
>>20205538You could. You'll miss a lot if the context, but you could. Honestly, just go for it. If you like it you can go back and watch more.
>>20205538>dip my toes in the Gundam universe with a flashy brand new movieThen watch the Thunderbolt films or The Origin if you really don't want to deal with the whole franchise.
>>20205404why would you want to watch the worst UC Gundam entry?
>>20205687It's better than Unicorn.
I baited my friend who didn't know much about Mobile Suit Gundam to watch Hathaway. He liked it but he told me he was very confused and wished he knew what was going prior. He ended up watching some. YouTube video and siad it cleared things up. That said, he's now a Gundam fan.
>>20205404You can. There's virtually nothing stopping you from doing so. You won't get why stuff happens 90% of the time but you can definitely watch it.
>>20205801Huh, I might try to do this to someone but with G-Reco instead of Hathaway. Curious to see where they might go from there.
>>20205404Right now, no, because the first movie is heavily reliant on the previous entries in order to get some sense out of it, although I'm pretty confident that the story could stand on its own once all of the three films have released.
this crap makes no sense even if u know Gundam.
>>20205801>baited my friend who didn't know much about Mobile Suit Gundam to watch Hathaway>>20205801>e ended up watching some. YouTube video and siad it cleared things up. >>20205801>he's now a Gundam fanFuck off No he is not if you don't put in the minimum effort of watching 150 episodes and a movie you aren't a fan unironically. This is minimum gatekeeping.
>>20205919h-how low iq do you have to be...
>>20205404Yes, as long as you're not autistic about the plot. It's totally fine.
>>20205988That's a fact, psychology in Gundam doesn't make sense. Characters act randomly.
>>20205404No. Just watch the stuff that leads up to it it isn't hard.
>>20205404YesBut a lot of interesting stuff like the manhunters and Char's Rebellion will be lost on you. Still a fantastic movie though.
>>20206098Using the word “psychology” is not enough to convince me
Hathaway makes Unicorn and Narrative non-canon, right? I mean, the source material predates Unicorn and Narrative, and thus the movie never mentions them, and it chronologically takes place after Unicorn and Narrative but never acknowledges the events of them either.
>>20206489>I mean, the source material predates Unicorn and Narrative, and thus the movie never mentions themI hope it stays this way with the 2nd and 3rd movie. Would be incredibly disrespectful to randomly shill fanfic in a Tomino story.
>>20205404Probably, I mean it's not like anyone can stop you, but you should probably watch the bare minimum of the 3 compilation movies of 0079 and then Char's Counterattack before. Alternatively watch something like Thunderbolt or an AU first like other anons suggested if you wanna dip your toes into the franchise but don't want to commit to 3 full-length series off the bat.
>>20206489>>20206519Isn't the Unicorn completely covered up by the federation anyway?, I don't think any characters in the movie (still need to read the original btw) have the clearance or the contacts to know about what even happened. I'd be cool with them acknowledging that the certain events took place like the Torrington attack or even the gp02 attack since the aftermath of those events could act as a incentive for MAFTY to act the way it does
>>20206591They never tried to tie 0083 as a point of argument for the AEUG to exist and I'm happy with that since AEUG already had the 30 bunch incident. Keeping HF separate works for me too, I'd rather they not have anything more than passing references to other stories.
>>20206519>I hope it stays this way with the 2nd and 3rd movieBased on the recent interviews, that would seem to be the case. They tried very hard to distance HF from UC/NT that they even refused using the Loto and UC Jegan variants, and vowed not pull another Torrington when it comes to MS cameos.
>>20206098Its a fact you know very little about human nature.
>>20208322i bet you have a girl's name
>>20206098Better yet the characters are not even that hard to understand you're just retarded.
>>20205404I can name maybe 200 gendums off the top of my head, but I only watched the original 0079 like 30 years ago, never watched Zeta, and haven’t seen Char’s Counterattack. You won’t be lost; but you won’t understand the setting or the weird psychic flashbacks. Still eye candy.
Where can I find Gigi's porn?
You won't really get Hathaway if you've not at least seen CCA, and you won't get that unless you've seen the original 3 UC series
>>20205404No, there's a reason they recently added the MSG movies and CCA to streaming services (though even then I'd argue that's still not enough to really appreciate Hathaway)
>>20206098it's pretty clear that Tomino understands people on a level most autists/Oldtypes will never understandThe older I get the more I understand why certain characters do what they do
Movie's boring as fuck.
>>20209936coo/m/ dot org
>>20210119I laughed harder at that than I should have.
>>20205404>you know absolutely nothing about GundamI dont know hoe you can be posting on /m/ AND know absolutely nothing about Gundam.
remember tha this was written to setup Gaia Gear
I must have got filtered hard but I don't know what the fuck the point of Gigi was. It turns out she's the fictional equivalent of an instagram model that gets paid by arabs to fuck old men. She otherwise just struts around spending money, being eyecandy. Like what did she add to the story exactly?
>>20212068She's a parallel to the flighty newtype girl from every gundam show, except like most things in Hathaway's Flash, Hathaway has no true hold over her
>>20212068She's supposed to be the new Lalah Sune / Quess.
>>20205404>>20205538OP here, ended up watching it. It was pretty enjoyable, good animation/character designs etc and I could grasp the whole Mafty/Federation conflict reasonably well despite not knowing the backstory. It definitely got me interested and I’ll be taking a look at the previous entries. Probably the only thing that didn’t resonate was how the movie kept weirdly introducing characters (mostly mafty associated) in a way that made me feel like they were returning characters from a previous story. It felt fanservicey how these characters were referenced by their names and I was assuming they were given prominence because fans had liked them previously. But then I looked a few up on the wiki and to my surprise almost all of them were brand new original characters for Hathaway. Am I reading this correctly or is the wiki incomplete?
>>20205404Yesanyone who says otherwise is lying
>>20205404Yes but it will be confusing. Since it's on Netflix just watch the Mobile Suit Gundam trilogy, and Char's Counterattack, all of which are also on netflix.
>>20213371Yeah it's a sequel to a movie that came out 33 years ago, no prior memories are expected, as opposed to what the turboautists on this board says.
>>20213371>robably the only thing that didn’t resonate was how the movie kept weirdly introducing characters (mostly mafty associated) in a way that made me feel like they were returning characters from a previous story.>But then I looked a few up on the wiki and to my surprise almost all of them were brand new original characters for Hathaway. Am I reading this correctlyYea, you're reading it correctly.Only people who've read the Japanese novels would know the characters, so it's directed at people who know the novels.I didn't like the way it was handled either.
>>20213425Can't wait for G-Reco 4
>Everyone needs to leave Earth because uh, pollution will be bad in like 10,000 years I guessWhat a weak motivation holy shit
>>20205404Yes, although it might be a bit confusing when they refer to Amuro and Quess.
why does hathaway think that killing major political figures will lead to everyone going to space
Hathaway is such a pathetic tryhard
>>20217244Go to bed, Lane
>>20216902Good thing that isn't the motivation.
>Gigi will have nude scenes in the next moviecoooooooooooo/m/
>>20213371Glad you liked it anon.
>>20217244That's the point
why are the new gundams so ugly
>>20220483Which ones? The Penelope and Xi aren't really new
>>20219862N-nude? Like with bobs and vegan?
Not OP but I watched Hathaway and enjoyed it (I've watched other UC shows though.) Where can I read the novel? And what's the common consensus on Hathaway (the movie and/or novel) on this board?
>>20220509>>20220483They are beautiful
>>20205404No. You pretty much have to watch the entire Charmuro Trilogy to have at least a singe iota of what the hell is going on. Even then, you'd be pretty much at a loss since the movie doesn't go into much of what happened after CCA.
>>20222379Very few people have actual read the novels on this board. I enjoyed the movie, though.
>>20206489you realise the Japanese don't have anywhere near the same understanding of "canon" that you do, right? So, asking that question, even as bait, makes you look like a fucking enormous retard.
>>20205404I did, made enough sense to me. Didn't realize until afterwards that newtypes were actually-psychic and it wasn't some kind of intuitive savantry, but other than that everything was comprehensible.
>>20212068She forced Hathaway to lose his shit not only once, but twice. Maybe being cockblocked by a Char does that to man.
>Lane Aim>Misses 99% of his shotspathetic
>>20236005More like Lame Aim, right?
>>20236005I like that in any other series or show, he would be the typical Gundam protagonist.
>>20205404You can technically watch any Gundam show without knowing anything about Gundam, but how much you understand varies. With Hathaway good god no.
>>20205404If you have eyes you can watch anything
>>20239157I have eyes and I couldn't see fucking shit in the final fight because for some reason they thought making it pitch black was a cool idea
>>20242197Wasn't it like that in the novel?
>>20205679What an abhorrent advice
Why can't I stop thinking about Lame Aim's tight butt
>>20205629I started with UC, it's really the meat of Gundam as a wholeBesides, the basic canon is a reasonably simple 0079>Zeta>ZZ>CCA. No reason why our OP newfren >>20205404 shouldn't dip in. At least he shows interest and probably won't get filtered like /a/ posters do.
>>20247108>Besides, the basic canon is a reasonably simple 0079>Zeta>ZZ>CCADude isn't that like 145 episodes and a movie?
>>20247118Still way less than all the seasonal shonen garbage plebs actually watch. Also skip episode 1 of ZZ, it's just a recap.
Man it would have been way cooler if Mafty had just used older feddie suits. Maybe they could have been like kitbashed so they looked even more ragtag. Instead it feels like they're a soros funded ngo or some shit. The fact that they straight up commissioned those Messers is insane. Where do they get the money for that?
>>20250701>Instead it feels like they're a soros funded ngo or some shit.Nobody tell him...
>>20250701>Man it would have been way cooler if Mafty had just used older feddie suitsNo, it would not have you stupid shill.
>>20250792Yes it would have you dumb retard
>>20242197>pitch blackWay to out yourself as a poorfag using an LCD monitor from 2009.
Isn't Mafty better funded than AEUG by virtue of having been provided a prototype Gundam instead of having to steal one?
>>20250821AE supplied the AEUG with multiple high end Gundams. The move to steal the mark II units was meant more to be a public slap in the face of the Titans as the AEUG's first military operation. It is true that the AEUG used a lot of captured units in the beginning, though.
>>20239157big if true
This is a pretty good thread to hijack, what release for the original Gundam would you recommend, I had the one I was happy with on my old hard drive, but it died on me before I could get to it and now I can't remember which it was.Speaking of the '79 series and asking about which encode, just in case that was not clear, I have access to the AB releases.
>>20251121That's a shame, the public torrent is downloading like shit and I am too much of a jew to grab it from AB as it's not freeleech.Thanks though, I'll just see if I can grab some more trackers.
>>20251128Check this thread >>20079720Maybe they can help out
>>20250794why would that look any less soros funded with old feddies suits when they have a brand new gundam
>>20251151Managing to procure one brand new gundam + several custom made brand new grunt suits is a lot more suspicious than having the one new gundam and several pieced-together mobile suits they got from the junkyard/craigslist.
>>20205404The atmospheric entry scene was lame.Did they just forget that the RX-78-2 was able to get into the atmosphere just fine? Also where the hell is this terrorist organization getting their mobile suits?
>>20250821The only thing Mafty has over the AUEG are insiders.
>>20251479Don't worry, AE will gonna get got after this story.
>>20251537Hathaway specifically mentions meeting with Anaheim Electronics, the company that makes all mobile suits at this point. Hathaway is rich, has been shown to pay for expenses of the group, and has a large number of connections.
>>20251697why doesn't the Federation take them over they don't have an army
>>20251732.... did you watch the movie?Their bases are hidden and the federation trying to weed out a sub group of MAFTY in the area is a plot point.Hell do you know who guerilla warfare works? It's like you're saying "Why doesn't the US just take down ISIS? They don't have an army"
>>20251765he means Anaheim
>>20251765>"Why doesn't the US just take down ISIS?Why would they fight the groups funded by America?Oh wait...
>>20251766>Anno: I think so too.
>>20205404No, you need to watch CCA which requires you to watch 0079 and Zeta
If only SNRI would show up to become the leading MS developer for factions in the late UC. Oh wait...
>>20251732I think EF leaves Anaheim alone because Anaheim is the only organization making technological advancements.If the EF took over Anaheim then I guess the amount of new tech being made would decrease, so EF let's Anaheim make guns for the bad guys because Anaheim will eventually give the EF even stronger guns.
>>20251537The pod also carry ammo and spare equipment for Xi.
>>20247108>>20247118You don't really have to watch ZZ, the only really relevant thing that happens is Haman gets her shit pushed in. It's a fun watch and recommended but it's not required for CCA and Hathaway
>>20205404Yes, but it would be less enjoyable
>>20238667Will the carpet match the drapes?
>>20252081Except the EF managed to make advancements without them during and shortly after the OYW, and then Zeta showed that Anaheim had to actually resort to stealing from the EF/Titans to keep up with development, with later material showing that MS like the Nemo were developed from the GM Sniper II or something.I also found it odd how Anaheim wasn't anything during the OYW, then by Zeta they're this manufacturing powerhouse that can get away with double dealing despite everybody being aware of it..
>>20261810>I also found it odd how Anaheim wasn't anything during the OYW, then by Zeta they're this manufacturing powerhouse that can get away with double dealing despite everybody being aware of it..This is where Gundam side stories shine light to that. 0080 had some implied allusions with the Alex and outright explicit in 0083. Then there's the side manga that go incredibly autistic with the corporate politics.
>>20251766>>20251769I can't believe this is a real interview
>>20205404I watched it with friends whose only exposure to UC Gundam was Thunderbolt and they had no problem following the plot.