Why does Japan refuse to acknowledge its existence?
Because it fuckin sucks
'Cuz DUKE FLEED CRIES LIKE LITTLE BITCH
>>19634609>>19634611t. americans who never watched it
>>19634604>Kouji front and center instead of DukeJeez Koji you cunt you already stole Great Mazinger's main character role from Tetsuya stop stealing other people's shows.
>>19634616They brought Koji to Great and Grendizer because Great Mazinger didn't do well in Japan.Japanese people can't watch any mazinger show without Kouji
>Is a cultural icon in Latin countries, France, Greece, Italy and Middle East>Japan: NOO HOW DARE YOU USING KOJI AS SIDE CHARACTER?>USA: I never heard of it
>>19634604They do tho, funny enough grendizer had higher ratings than Kamen rider stronger and the pop cultural sensation that is goranger
>>19634654I mean, it's weird since it indeed seems like Japan wants to forget Grendizer ever happened, but it did manage to have 74 episodes which must mean it was at least relatively popular, right?
>>19634664Go Nagai said it was popular at the time but seeing how it's constantly ignored in SRW and Hero games make it feel like otherwiseThey didn't even bother referencing it in Mazinger Z Infinity with Z and Great Mazinger despite it being a nostalgia movie
>>19634674There is according to uncle go a grenadine right movie in development alongside a game
>>19634687“Grendizer” got corrected for some reason
>>19634604>unless it gets a constant flood of new merchandise and remakes, its existence is ignored
>>19634664>>19634674Going by the Japanese wikipedia page it had good ratings and higher toy sales than Great Mazinger. So, yeah, it's mostly a matter of Grendizer being forgotten afterwards.
>>19634696Yeah, there's a world of middle ground between "constant flood" of new material and nothing for four decades. Fuck off.
I've lived a little longer than zoomers, so I can tell you with confidence that many things that were extremely popular in their time are completely forgotten nowadays.
>>19634696>Z got Mazinkaiser, Shin, Zero and Infinity>Great got Mazinkaiser, Shin, Zero, Emperror G, and Infinity>Mazinkaiser got SKL>Grendizer got Grendizer Giga, a manga that Nagai left unfinishedyeah, fuck off
>>19634717Hell, even zoomers can relate, just look at Game of Thrones.
>>19634711Oh gee guys, i guess shit like Takarajima and Rose of Versailles is totally ignored too. How unfair. Grendizer is even better than those!>>19634725thanks for proving my point
>>19634739Yeah, because historical dramas are the same as superhero robot IPs. Whenever you're done being disingenuous, you can freely fuck off.
>>19634805Cope. There's no meaningful difference. And even if there was, Grendizer has still gotten way more shit than the vast majority of robot anime of its time. When was the last time you heard of anything referencing fucking Dai Apolon? Look wasim, some anime air, and then after they air, they're done. Not every franchise needs to continue endlessly for no reason.
>>19634885>When was the last time you heard of anything referencing fucking Dai Apolon?It happens occasionally.
>>19634634>cultural iconI hate that word. It's just a fucking cartoon
>>19635049Some European countries still celebrate Mazinger showsMiddle East knows Grendizer OP song more than their national anthems
>>19634624To be fair, Great Mazinger is pretty bad, especially when compared to Mazinger Z. I don't think it's the lack of Kouji though, I think they just struggled to match the same dynamics of the villains and the same ones among the protagonists as either. I was often watching Mazinger Z and being more interested in the villains than the heroes and the way they were interacting with each other, while that was only something I felt rarely in Great. Great also felt less experimental and wild. More polished, but also more processed. Tetsuya was also just very, very dull compared to Kouji, and his relationship with Jun wasn't as fun as Sayaka and Kouji's spats. I haven't seen Grendizer yet but I think it might be a mistake to have Kouji there because I'm just going to compare it to Mazinger Z whenever I see him.
>>19635076I was disappointed with Great as wellit was too childish and less fun than Zthe enemies looked like clowns with dumb personalities.Gorgon and Daishogun were the only great enemies.Great recycling all of Z's music didn't help either
>>19635076To further go on, it's not like adding Kouji back into things made it better. It actually just made things worse because they sprung a random 'I AM JEALOUS FOR NO REASON COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER!' nonsense on Tetsuya when he came back, rather than actually playing off some possible enjoyable character interaction. They also brought back Dr Hell, but it lacked the same fun that his interactions with Brocken and Ashura had. It almost feels like the people writing it didn't get why Mazinger Z worked and just copied the formula. To put it more bluntly, Great Mazinger feels like what most people think 70s robot shows are as an archtype than Mazinger Z. >>19635082Yeah, the only time I really enjoyed the series was when Janus was introduced and her clashes with Gorgon and the infighting that resulted there, plus a few of her other episodes.
>>19634604Because even for the 70s the saucers looked doofy.
>>19635115I don't see any issue with it
>>19635115No, it looks cool.
>>19635115Nah, that's fine.
>>19635115Would you have been happier with the original Grendizer design?
>>19635082>>19635101I've been watching Mazinger Z 1 episode daily and it's been a pretty comfy experience so I wanted to make it a tradition of sorts and watch a 70s anime daily. Anyway I'm about to finish with Z, should I watch Great next? Is it THAT bad? Great Mazinger's design is pretty cool if nothing else.
>>19635216Great is my favorite of the mazingers but its show is very boringthe manga is better but since you are watching 1 episode at a time, I think give it a try.Grendizer anime is far better than Z and Great so it's worth watching
>>19635216Give it a shot, just don't be too worried if you don't make it through. I've seen a fair bit of 70s robot shows and Great is on the lower end of things for me so keep at the whole watching 70s stuff daily. And you never know, it might click with you.Also check out Mazinger Z versus Ankoku Daishogun after you've finished the series as well.
>>19634604Mazinger was just a stupid toy commercial. Japan needs to grow up.
>>19635267Mazinger was a manga commercial, kiddo
>>19634604Because a) Go Nagai wasn't happy with the direction it was taken in, and b) he owns the IP.
>>19635216The only 70s mech show I've watched to completion was Combattler V and I recommend it if you're up for it..
>>19634624>Kouji gets bodied by Great General Of Darkness.>Don't worry here's Great.>Great ain't doing so hot for reasons.>Bring Kouji back.(>clown em again in Grendizer)>Mazinkaiser OVAs redo Mazingers ending...S'fallin' into place...
>>19638573>Go Nagai wasn't happy with the direction it was taken insource?
>>19635268What manga? The Mazinger manga was pretty much dropped because the show was so goddamn popular.
>>19639304Follow the wikipedia sources.
>>19635216Watch Devilman, it's great. It's kind of a horror-comedy of the week.
>>19640819>droppedno?the mazinger manga has an ending where Mazinger Z fights King Gorgon, followed by Mazinger's defeat and the appearance of Great Mazinger which then both followed by GrendizerGrendizer manga is the only one that had no ending. it was ended before Grendizer even fought off Zurel and King Vega
Zwank killed Mazinger.
>>19642349un bro momentoThat's gosaku ota manga.
>>19639279>Mazinkaiser OVAsHow fucking dumb are you, really.Go back to /vp/ retard.
>>1963511570s saucers are cosmic though.
>>19634609It doesn't, watch more mecha.