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Next episode preview: http://youtu.be/79fuEMQ68wU

HELL YEAH, MOTORCYCLES

Also "Break The Chain" has finally been released: https://twitter.com/digimon_tv/status/1385882454897037315
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hESjYhpjkHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QDGd6mLGq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_2CMFWEQHk
Rate Digimon Adventure:'s insert songs.
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>>19602927
Break The Chain is really really good and I'm glad it's finally here. X Treme Fight is also an excellent song but Break The Chain feels like it's really something else. Be The Winners is just ok.
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https://twitter.com/onsen_hanadi/status/1385942650918817795
Nobuyuki Hiyama as Machmon.
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>>19602927
They introduced the songs in perfect order, each is more hype than previous. The series itself is such a mess but songs are really solid. Also the opening song is excellent.
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>>19603050
Okay nostalgiafag
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>>19603061
Yeah that certainly screams "I'm in control of my actions, no really I am"
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A YT stream for this week's episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSlfK3jCPOE
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Why is this show choosing to shit on Seraphimon now? Holydramon was the correct choice of ultimate for Tailmon but using Goddramon instead of Seraphimon as the front & centre mega for Takeru is dumb even from a merchandising standpoint due to being a literal who digimon.
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>>19603532
New link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzesLEzUW4M
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>>19603611
It isn't. They're going to get both evolutions.
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>>19603626
>It isn't. They're going to get both evolutions.
One will be a half assed, poorly animated last minute addition where as the other will actually be the one that will appear in multiple appearances with an actual introduction like with WarGreymon & BlitzGreymon. That poster all but confirms that Seraphimon will appear in the present at most once whereas Goddramon will be the default.
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>>19603644
>BlitzGreymon
>actual introduction
Did you miss that episode?
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>>19603061
I haven’t watched the new show yet but that’s paired with beelzemon right?
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>>19603688
No this isa different digimon entirely
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>>19603679
I think he did
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Well that was sick
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>>19603644
I'm guessing the Angels will be saved for the final fight, their "regular" Ultimates will be used a few times until then.
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>>19602927
>mega>ultimate>champion
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Episode 46 preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anc9G_uIwGo
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Cute cyborg dog.
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>>19603809
This looks like an episode of the first adventure right? I'm not going crazy right?
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>>19603831
More like it crossed with Frontier.
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Goddamn Metalgarurumon is huge in this show. Now that we've seen both, I prefer the way they got Ultimate in this show compared to the original.
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>>19603928
I dont know the crests were pretty kino
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>>19603928
>I prefer the way they got Ultimate in this show compared to the original.
Really? I wouldn't say so, especially for MetalGarurumon.
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>>19603977
>>19603990
Adventure had a random prophecy pop up that wasn't really referenced again. This show actually gave the characters Ultimates in episodes about them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFoBPRRzlf0
2020 MetalGarurumon
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>Ice Lion in Kamen Rider
>Ice Wolf in Digimon
>Both around 9:20
Nice week!
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>>19603704
Yeah but like, does it seem like beelzemon is getting introduced soon? I can’t imagine them making that Digimon and. It having beelzemon involved. I’m pretty sure it’s profile hints at it even
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What are your verdicts on MetalGarurumon's debut episode?
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https://twitter.com/TOWER_Sendai/status/1386126518301040643
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>>19604797
No.
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>>19602914
I got the impression Machmon was meant to be an Ultimate with the Metal Greymon influence and Rebellimon being Ogremon's Perfect. Kinda weird to learn it's an adult that can evolve into Rebellimon.
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>>19603611
>shitdramon was the correct choice of ultimate for Tailmon
No, Ophanimon was the correct choice. The reboot chose poorly.
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>>19603626
>They're going to get both evolutions.
They won't.
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>>19604121
Silly anon the prophecy was for the megas metal garurumon and war greymon
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Okay... so context for MetalGarurumon...

Machmon was suicidal because of shit Parasimon made him do? And Yamato/Gabumon wouldn't let him take the easy way out is what unlocked MetalGarurumon?
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>>19605366
Friendship
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>>19604808
9/10, it was definitely worth the wait. This is how evolution focus episodes should be.

>>19605366
You got it. Yamato's compassion for Machmon was the extra push they needed.
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>>19605429
>>19605437

Sounds like the Mega episodes will embody the crests then.

WarGreymon - Courage to stand your ground no matter the odds
MetalGarurumon - Giving someone a friendly shoulder when they're at their worst
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>>19605456
I guess that explains why he evolved here and mot the mephismon ep. While yes before it was friendship between Gabumon and Matt now it was matt and gabumon using their power to protect another friend
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I never understood but we are the spirit fusion in frontier different from the ancient spirits. Weren't the ancient spirits split in two? Beast and human? Shouldn't recombining them just make ancient greymon and ancient garurumon
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>>19605663
Toys
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>>19605674
If they want wanted toys they could have made rookie forms for all the spirits too
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>>19605627
Exactly... he'd just made a new friend in Machmon. When Parasimon came into the equation, he refused to let this bug drive Machmon to off himself.

This reaffirms something I noticed in Digimon after Tamers/S3. They really have been going out of their way to make the Mega level feel more personal in unlocking it haven't they?

I wonder what kind of foes await the remaining 6
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>>19605456
So what's it going to be for HeraclesKabuterimon? We already saw the silhouette but what's going to be the final push?
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>>19605697
No I mean, the gimmick of the Frontier toys is that the human and beast figures had armor that could be combined and configured in different ways, ie both the Ancients and the fusions. It's double the toy shilling, I guess. More economic that way.
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>>19605760
Hm... idk how it would embody Knowledge, but I could see Koushiro and Tentomon having Wisemon being involved somehow
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>>19605663
No, because it's the SPIRITS of the ancients, not their bodies. Their bodies got fucking killed. That's also why the fusions are significantly weaker than the Ancients.
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>>19606053
Aren't they actually supposed to be stronger? Their profile descriptions at least suggest that they are.
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>>19606059
No. Double Spirit Evolutions are nebulously between Perfect and Ultimate in terms of power depending on the source, while Ancients are all consistently very powerful Ultimates.
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While some of these recent episodes have been good, it really is pretty clear that the series is lacking from not having an actual antagonist to move the plot along.

Not saying these episodes couldn't have happened, some of these plots feel like they should have happened earlier, or at least spread out rather than consecutively like this.
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What is this expression trying to convey?
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>>19604797
I doubt it
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>>19606154
I’m not talking about what they’re actually treated as, I’m talking about what they supposedly intended lorewise (since what you gave was a lore explanation). The profiles of all the fusion forms state they have all the power of the Ancient Digimon plus unknown power, resulting in them surpassing the legends. This isn’t generally reflected (much like say, Flamin and Strabimon supposedly bring stronger than Adults) but it is what they wrote.
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>>19602927
X treme fight > Break the Chain > Be The Winners
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>>19607243
I mean, much like how lore would mean that Taichi nuked Japan repeatedly in Adventure 01 and Daisuke and Ken turned Imperialdramon into an orbital antimatter cannon that one time that fired on Japan multiple times and nothing happened because of it, sometimes you have to realize that the Reference Book will always fluff shit up, especially when oddball shit like Frontier is afoot where everything technically applies to levels, except when they don't.
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>>19606901
dude...
that fart is stank af, wtf... ugh
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MupYVPs6hRE
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>>19602914
About midway thru the episode I realized it's Greymon's head on a bike, just missing the nose horn. Sort of a disappointing debut episode for MetalGarurumon though.
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>>19606901
>this time I won't job
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>>19602927
>>19603039
The guitar is goddamn sick. Are the lyrics out yet?
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>>19608286
Not every Mega debut needs an epic fight to be good. IMO it's refreshing that Metalgarurumon got a simpler case of wanting to save a new friend from a Parasimon compared to the crazy stupidly high stakes that led to Wargreymon
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>>19608308
When did the franchise treated Angemon and it's line as jokes and punching bags?
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>>19608170
I love the teeth gnashing and the way he poses in the middle of that blizzard, but I wish they'd kept the part where he shoots a crapload of missiles.
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>>19608286
I don't really see it. Greymons head has a roundish flat end while Machmons is more of a shark-like cone.
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>>19609197
Greymon stripes tho so I guess it's a weird Greymon mutation
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>>19603679
>>19603711
Reading comprehension not your strong suit? They said that one will be half-assed and that one will have an actual introduction, like the case with WarGreymon and BlitzGreymon. They didn't claim that BlitzGreymon was the latter.

That being said, they have an absolutely retarded take on the likelihood of Seraphimon being the one that's relegated to one appearance.
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>>19609955
Yeah, the reality is that Seraphimon won't appear at all.
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>>19609955
>Reading comprehension not your strong suit?
Go fuck yourself. The word order suggested WarGreymon meant option 1 and BlitzGreymon meant option 2.

>>19609973
You can go fuck yourself as well you dumb cunt.
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>>19609752
Head isn't identical but has some similarities, the skin color with stripes, the metallic arms looking like more streamlined version of Metal Greymon's metal arm. A lot of the new digimon are designed to work as possible evolutions for multiple Digimon and not just one line.
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>>19609986
>malding this hard after being called out
Go outside, sweety.
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>>19609973
And that's a good thing. Goddramon is better in every way.
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Show me your digimon partner anons
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>>19610194
Bug
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>>19610194
Sub
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>>19610152
Piss off. Don't cry when you get told you're being unclear.
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>>19606869
>it really is pretty clear that the series is lacking from not having an actual antagonist to move the plot along.
JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL!
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>>19611357
The original was never this lackadaisical in regards to the main plot.
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Wait, has Seraphimon/Goddramon been teased yet? If not then Patamon could get a Mega tease when he goes to MagnaAngemon
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>>19611374
>The original was never this lackadaisical in regards to the main plot.
>Devimon: How could I have been defeated like this...is what I would say if there wasn't two more even more evil guys after me who are stronger! That's right only 3 guys and nothing else!

>Etemon: I don't really know who this Devimon was nor do I care about the tags or crests I just want to sing so I'm pretty much filler

>Vadermon: I'm pretty much the only actually antagonist hence why I last the longest and never actually die...yep there's absolutely no one after me that'll come out of nowhere to extend the length of the show
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Describe their relationship.
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>>19611389
Stop being intentionally obtuse. The original didn't set up a plot line regarding Apocalymon and then do nothing for almost 20 episodes like has happened in Colon with Millenniumon.
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>>19611440
same guy with and w/o wig
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>>19611440
Beavis and Butt-Head
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>>19610571
I'm not them. Stay mad.
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>>19611494
So you just waded in for no reason?
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>>19608338
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d38ZInhnBV8
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>>19610194
i don't know what later evolutions would be yet but i'm liking these guys
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>>19611659
The left one looks like a NITW OC
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>>19611752
is this better
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>>19608308

just like every other time?
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>>19611911
The weird hands help, but not enough. I think it's the clothes it's wearing, it looks too "human-y" if that makes sense.
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>>19612008
but the big shoes are cool
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>>19612010
Then remove the shirt or replace it with something then.
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>>19612853
Sukamon Daioh finally getting in the DRB is great, especially with that art.

Wonder when Yoyomon and Kodokugamon get in, they were also on that poll and should be getting in eventually.
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>>19613054
One can only pray that these 4 are only the beginning of them adding countless minor and random Digimon to the reference book.
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>>19613144
It's not even the beginning, they've been adding a bunch of random shit to the DRB for the last year or so. It's also not the biggest, as like a month or two back they added Shoutmon EX6 and ten or so X Evolutions to it.

It's just that there are so many goddamn Digimon who aren't in the DRB and probably should be that it's still an uphill battle. Like, seriously, most of the fucking Olympus 12 aren't even in it!
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>>19613170
I mean yeah, they have been doing that, but those are all (sort of, almost) already officially acknowledged Digimon, with existing art and whatnot. These guys didn't even have that.
Obviously getting Ceresmon and Kyuukimon etc. in there sooner rather than later would be cool, but it's those real minor, not-even-art-having guys I really want to see them doing. Get me some Blikmon in that reference book. Some MachLeomon, some Dominimon, some Citramon maybe, even. Really go wild.
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>>19611532
I see dumb shit, I call it out. Simple.
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>>19613311
Strange, that's what I did in the first place yet you clearly took offence to it.
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>>19610194
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>>19613287
Sure, but I mean, as much as I would be elated for shit like Armamon and Omegaarmamon Burst Mode to get in, I would also like for shit like Yanmamon to actually get on because it confuses me to no end that it still isn't.
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>>19602927
Be the Winners: 7/10, solid evolution song
X-Treme Fight: 10/10, gets you hyped for the battle/climax
Break The Chain: 11/10, literally the best Digimon Adventure: song, it has the tokusatsu vibe to it, too
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>>19613438
M8, you were clearly being dumb.
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>>19602914
I have a massive thing for this motherfucker. I wanna see him again.
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>>19613585
Explain how. The part in question is not clear in its intended meaning.

>One will be a half assed, poorly animated last minute addition where as the other will actually be the one that will appear in multiple appearances with an actual introduction like with WarGreymon & BlitzGreymon.
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>>19613604
>tfw they gave him an all new upgraded version of Ground Zero at some point, but got rid of the older upgraded version where he turned his upper body including his head into a missile silo

truly a sad day.
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>>19603039
I liked Be The Winners. It does its job and gets you hyped up each fight but X-Evolution and Break The Chain are much better songs.
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Does anyone know how I unlock a second slot on my VB? Do I need the phone app?
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reminder, that X-TREME FIGHT is a banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktkn-ikffto
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>>19613667
Because anyone that has watched the show would understand which is which.
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>>19613054
You guys dont understand its even better than that. It means they might return in future media like videogames and cards.
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>>19610194
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>>19615140
バイタルブレスラボとの連動について
本Dim CARDに収録されているキャラクターはバイタルブレスラボへの転送及び、 アプリ内での機能が使用できます。
図鑑登録も可能になりました

tldr: can be used with Vital Bracelet Lab, can be registered in VBL reference book
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Anyone else feel like they should introduce a new big group like Royal Knights, Seven Great Demon Lords and Olympos XII? I like themes like and fondly remember the days they would introduce new members.

Dunno or care if they'd base them off of an existing source or something more original, but I think Digimon could only benefit from having a new group on par with those.
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>>19615424
With all the new ultimates from Impulse City being based on deities, I could theoretically see them expanding out new pantheons with them. Could be cool.
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>>19614967
That was always a thing, though, plenty of Digimon not in the DRB show up pretty often and a number who are in it barely show up (see also Red Otamamon)
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What the hell was his problem?
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>>19606901
>HolyAngemon soon (TM)
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>>19615424
Bandai: Introducing, the pantheon of Greymons! Featuring 13 new Greymon variants!
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>>19616367
It's been 3000 years, and all that.
Lame that it's only Worm though. Get all of them on there, bandai!
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>>19616746
Don't you mean 13 new Omegamon variants
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>>19615582
Made to kill 8 episodes of time because Archnemon wasn't a threatening enough villain, but writers don't know how to kill him, so he leaves. Then when the writers figure out how to kill him and bring him back, they backtrack and say his sacrifice meant nothing.
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>>19613604
Waiting for MetalGreymon VS SkullGreymon in the new anime at this point
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>>19617076
That's after they do the Greymon pantheon and the Garurumon pantheon.
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>Trailmon added to the DRB

it is good day to be digimon fan
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So how have Digimon products been doing lately? Is it correct to say that the Card Game and Vital Bracelet have been big successes? What about the current crop of Vpets?

The reason I'm saying this is, if Digimon has been doing very well lately, maybe better than it's been doing in years, we might see them announce the next anime as soon as Colon wraps up. Since Colon was produced to help market the card game, they're going to want to have something airing to keep with that promotion.
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>>19618649
Not sure how Pendulum Z did, but VBs have been a success if the preorders constantly selling out are anything to go by and the card game is doing extremely well.
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>>19619003
>tfw like the art for the cards
>can't buy them anywhere without feeding faggot scalpers
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>>19619003
I dunno if they would do a 02 reboot sequel to follow up Colon or something new, but I wouldn't be surprised if they want to get as much as they can out of Digimon's recent successes as well as continuing to have something to promote the card game.
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>>19619036
I would say hold strong and resist the urge so that the prices fall as these scalpers lose money on their attempted investment

But I've become black pulled on the matter. Too many autistic spergs in the west don't mind overpaying as long as they can afford something.
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>>19619036
Are the import prices cheaper? You're never going to get the Parallels or Secret Rares on the cheap, but you might at least get normal art versions.

>>19619040
They'll definitely follow this anime up with another one, but it's too early to call what specifically they'll jump at,
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>>19619081
>Are the import prices cheaper?
Not him, but Japan's secondary market is not as cancerous as the West's. Cards tend to be a lot cheaper most of the time
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>>19619051
>>19619081
>>19619091
i'm also a gachafag who likes buying sealed packs and maybe getting a cool guy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUJn0QlwgMY
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imo nothing can beat Beat Hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCjH7YnJksA&list=WL&index=3
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>>19619081
I think as long as you preorder/bundle things appropriately (or buy from Amazon) most sealed stuff is gonna be cheaper imported.

Though I fear Bandai may start (or already started) oppressing us westoids. Apparently because of some nebulous "international licensing issues" HLJ was asked by the manufacturer to pull a number of products, including the recent Dukemon/Ulforce starter decks and the new card sleeves. They still honored preorders, but couldn't sell more even when they were in stock. Haven't heard anything about Double Diamond yet, but I'm paranoid they may just start cracking down on selling all future japanese cards overseas.
Technically the boxes all do say that "sale and export outside japan is strictly prohibited without approval," so I guess this could just be them finally enforcing that, but it still sucks and I do not see what they gain from it. So I'm hoping it's a one-off.
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>>19619040
It's gonna be an Adventure/02/+ hybrid, where Taichi stays the main character but Daisuke and Ken also show up, as well as a new kid with a Pulsemon partner. It is inevitable.
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An important thing to remember is that when Frontier ended after the whole disaster with its movie (which was only somewhat its fault, mostly just bad timing) the original Digica/Hyper Colosseum kept the franchise going fine enough for a few years.

Given how healthy the current card game is, they can afford to wait a season or two to prepare the next one better, which might affect their decision.

>>19619362
>I do not see what they gain from it.

If the prices are cheaper, they stop people from ordering overseas to keep the prices overseas high.

Which is DUMB AS FUCK when the game is already suffering from massive understocking, but...
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>>19619362
>>19619390
My theory on the matter is Bandai got really paranoid that people in the west were going to try and pull the scalping and hording on the Japanese market. They probably forced this to avoid the possibility.

I really do not think that Bandai likes what is happening to the game in the west, at least on the Japanese side. They recognize that this nonsense is inherently unhealthy for the life of a game.
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https://twitter.com/digimonweb_net/status/1387315656094363653
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>>19619390
I mean, the japanese product isn't inherently cheaper, it can only be cheaper because all english product and apparently even preorders are getting scalped to fuck.
But it's not like importing japanese cards actually helps or circumvents that particular issue, because in formal play you're not allowed to mix the different releases. People that actually want to play still need to buy english cards. I guess it depends on what share of the DCG market that's keeping prices so high is comprised of actual players vs. just collectors.
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>>19619199
Except another Beat Hit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zXbr30Tcuw
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>>19619418
That implies that they know what's going on in the west, which would require they pay attention, and I think we all know Bandai never gives a FUCK about what happens in the west - otherwise shit like "we spelled fucking Antibody two different ways on the same fucking card" wouldn't be happening.

They probably see the product selling out in the West quickly, don't understand the implications, and want to try to encourage that.
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>>19619581
>That implies that they know what's going on in the west, which would require they pay attention, and I think we all know Bandai never gives a FUCK about what happens in the west - otherwise shit like "we spelled fucking Antibody two different ways on the same fucking card" wouldn't be happening.
They care more about the west than you think. They certainly seem to want the game to succeed in the West.
Translations seem to be handled more by Japan than normal, which is why a lot of attack names are the original names and not the traditional dub names.
If it is as I suspect, this is likely why you see awkward things like that.

>They probably see the product selling out in the West quickly, don't understand the implications, and want to try to encourage that.
Companies are not unaware by the massive wave of scalping going on with their Products. Bandai and Pokemon Company have both annouced plans to reprint more. They have been sending out more reprint sets.
Problem is, with Covid restrictions and limitations still going on, it is affecting their ability to produce. Yu-Gi-Oh! for example, has actually had to delay products release more than once so far and is still occasionally happening.
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>>19619581
>That implies that they know what's going on in the west, which would require they pay attention, and I think we all know Bandai never gives a FUCK about what happens in the west - otherwise shit like "we spelled fucking Antibody two different ways on the same fucking card" wouldn't be happening.
I actually remember reading that Bandai was actually pretty hands on when localizing a lot of the early Digimon stuff, which is actually how we got stuff like Goburimon back then.
A lot of non-English dubs actually use the same terminology and names that the English ones do, but some despite that base the scripts of the Japanese one for everything else and even use the original music (i know for a fact the Taco dub is like that), which leads people to believe that was all Bandai's idea.
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>>19613170
>It's just that there are so many goddamn Digimon who aren't in the DRB and probably should be that it's still an uphill battle. Like, seriously, most of the fucking Olympus 12 aren't even in it!

This so much. And let me take a moment to talk about how badly they keep disrespecting one of my favorite X-Antibody Digimon.

>Only got one card back in Hyper Colosseum
>Only game appearance was Digimon World X
>Left out of all 3 Digital Monster X versions
>Left out of the recent burst of profiles on the Reference Book

Give my boy some love, Bandai.
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>>19620205
Has it ever gotten artwork with the Nightmare Lance, for that matter? World X was a torture device masquerading as a video game but Herakle X holding those things was cool as fuck.
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>>19620205
1000% best X-Antibody mon
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>>19611911
fuck this stupid lizard thing, my new partner is lockmon
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>>19602927
You don't doubt Digimon's insert songs.
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>Watching Adventure 02
>Both Imperialdramon forms debut against Perfect Levels instead of Ultimates
The fuck?
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>>19621730
To show how weak the 02 cast is.
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>>19621730
The original debut is against multiple Perfects, he got ganged up on.

Fighter Mode's debut was weak as hell though yes, that Skullsatamon was just kind of casually wrecking everything.
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>>19621990
SkullSatamon is consistently shown to be strong as hell for a Perfect, so at least it had that going for it.
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>>19619040
I feel like they're going to follow colon up with a full series based on the VB live action promos. It just feels like those promos are leading to something more.
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>>19620222
No, none of the weapons from the game besides the starter Digimon's weapons got any artwork, and those were just for promo cards. Damn shame.
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There are 66 episodes and we’re in the mid 40s now. Holy shit, show some real story already
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>>19625143
There was like 38 episodes of non stop back to back story frontloaded at the start of the show, fuck you let me enjoy the filler.
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>>19625158
>38
No.
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Was he that bad of a final boss?
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>>19626071
Better than Tamers
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>>19626144
What's wrong with Tamers final boss?
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>>19626071
Honestly, no. He had plenty of set-up, and the explanation for his return made enough sense. It's just the payoff was kind of rushed and he barely did anything outside of killing off the fan favorites.

>>19626151
Probably the fact that it was a unrelenting force of nature instead of an actual character. Which was the entire point, but it's still a complaint that comes up a lot.
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>>19627781
When did Dokugumon show up in colon? I really can't remember.
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>>19627804
Episode 5. I forgot as well.
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>>19627819
Angemon looks terrible. That fappin arm is not holy.
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>>19626071
Demon would have probably been better but 02 was just rushed to hell and back.
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>>19627781
What are the odds of Orgemon showing up? Because if he doesn't, I won't be shocked if he survived and shows up and evolves to Titamon later.
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>>19627960
Greymon, MetalGreymon, WarGreymon
Ogremon, Rebellimon, Titamon
Adult, cyborg, humanoid warrior
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>>19618649
Digimon Survive news and a new Digimon Story game revealed any day now....any day......
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>>19628223
I really want to play this too...
Also a new Story game so they can build off of HM's roster
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>>19628223
I'm so worried Survive will get cancelled.
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>>19628242
I'm really not sure why they didn't announce a new Story game right away, it was just gaining some momentum. Though I do worry they will go hard into being a Persona ripoff when Cyber Sleuth has much bigger Devil Summoner vibes.

>>19628247
>Digimon Survive is reviewing its development system and repartitioning its schedule
https://twitter.com/habumon/status/1314256591017787392
yeah
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>>19628255
>I'm really not sure why they didn't announce a new Story game right away
Because Survive. Whatever the problem on its development, its holding up development of other Digimon games.
They did say a Story game was in the works.
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>>19627781
What's that thing on the Top left? Thunderbirdmon? I don't think they've encountered that before.

>>19627804
Really early in the show, Ogremon used them to make a net over that big canyon that Taichi and Sora were in while getting information on Holy Digimon.

>>19627825
If that hand ended in claws I'd say it's Gargomon, which also isn't really fitting.

>>19628242
>>19628255
There IS a new Story game in the works, though. They announced that years ago. It's only not gotten an announcement because if not for COVID Survive would be out last year and we'd have gotten more info on it by now.
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Can anyone confirm this?
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Oh yeah, and:

>>19628242
>so they can build off of HM's roster

Be careful thinking that, Lost Evolution removed at least a third of the Digimon in Sunburst/Moonlight.

>>19628394
According to a sidequest in Hacker's Memory, yes, but they may be the type to want to beat you up.
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>>19628413
>Be careful thinking that, Lost Evolution removed at least a third of the Digimon in Sunburst/Moonlight
More me just being optimistic. HM had everything you would expect, but it's still missing stuff I like.

Stuff like Coronamon line, Chessmons, BlitzGreymon, and Xros Digimon in general. Hell, some stuff introduced since then like Bulucomon and Pulsemon lines
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>>19628347
I swore they fought those things in the pre-20's episodes section of the series, but it's been a while since I last saw those.
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>>19628449
It was. >>19627823
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>>19610194
Proteimon
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>>19628436
>HM had everything you would expect

Missing a lot of stuff I would expect, but it only had 349 Digimon and 5 of those were meme choices like the old Dot-Savers stuff.
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>>19628223
Really love the partner Digimon choices in this one. Really went off the beaten track for the most part. Almost wish they'd used YukiAgumon instead of the regular one though, keeps the mascot but still a little more obscure.
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>>19628636
Never. Absolutely no chance. The only way they'll ever give you anything other than Agumon as your main Digimon is if it's something you choose, or Agumon is available in the first hour like in Cyber Sleuth.
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>>19628667
>The chad starter Hagurumon
>The virgin phone simp Augmon
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>>19628667
I still think using Agumon Blanco as a loophole would be viable!
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>>19628347
>What's that thing on the Top left?
Tylomon :/
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Slightly delayed YT link for this week's episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjCZiqebteQ
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>>19628895
My mistake, it isn't delayed.
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Episode 47 preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckz3cvlyu54
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>>19629101
Holy shit its this digimon

This is just fanart btw
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How was this week's episode?
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>>19628636
Same. They could have done BushiAgumon to go with the Yokai theme (Digimon always existed here), there' no way black agumon wouldn't have been loved by fans as a choice, and yukiagumon is a great underrated digimon choice.

There is a lot of potential for Agumon's evolutions to be more interesting though depending on how it works. Off the top of my head, Flarizamon, Brachimon, UltimateBrachimon, Spinomon and Gaioumon
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>>19629117
How fucking bizarre would it be for Atamadekachimon to actually be acknowledged in 2021.
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>>19629135
Interesting to see what happened to Devimon in the end
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>>19629135
Actually explains Devimons deal in this continuity. It was way overdue, but it was good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITkY7dITcxM
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>>19629242
If you haven't noticed the digimon twitter started adding Digimon like this to the DRB starting with a poll for BlackSeraphimon, King Scumon, Kodokugamon and another one. We just got 2 out of 4 of those with new art and Trailmon. It's actually very likely. It's weird but I love it someone at Digimon doesn't want these guys forgotten about.
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>>19630371
I've definitely noticed (I'm >>19613144 / >>19613287) this is just like the literal last Digimon I ever expected to see resurface, and in the anime no less. Being added to the DRB would have been one thing, but actually appearing in media is crazy.
Really makes it feel like the sky's the limit now with this stuff. We're gonna end up seeing HolyDigitamamon by the end of the year at this rate.
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>>19630405
I wonder if the other big dinosaur is something new or just a tyrannomon. Groundramon?
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>>19630675
It really kind of looks like something new. I've seen it speculated that it could be another contest Digimon that's never seen the light of day, like Earthdramon or something. Would definitely be a cool thing to do.
though given the similarity of the mouth to Atamdekachi's they may even do something nutty and give it an evolution
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>>19629242
Apparently it's a thing we're now doing!

Please, let this not be the last, let Technodramon finally be a thing, I want it so badly.

>>19630785
I've seen a theory that it's something related to Gaossmon, possibly something silly like a bunch of them stacked together but more reasonably an evolution. They have a similar head.
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>>19630855
Not shocking, Booster 6 is already looking based as fuck.

>More Shoutmon stuff, probably X forms
>almost certainly Kaisergreymon and Magnagarurumon
>other spirits also confirmed, specifically Arbormon
>both Sistermons and Gankoomon
>actual Pulsemon line (probably Bulkmon->Boutmon->Kazuchimon, and GOD am I happy they fixed Kazuchimon's name)
>Purple Titamon, very likely Purple Ogremon and Rebellimon as well

Guess they had to make up for it being focused on the two dumbass looking Kizuna forms somehow.
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>>19630962
Don't forget we're also getting the 10 anniversary Parallels, and that this is the first booster with foil Rares and fancy SRs. Shit's gonna be good.
>Guess they had to make up for it being focused on the two dumbass looking Kizuna forms somehow.
It's ok, they knew what they were doing and gave them to their best illustrator. Tonamikanji can make even those turds look almost passable.
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>>19630993
>the 10 anniversary Parallels

God, the Chaosmon Valdur Arm art looks fucking beautiful. I love the contrast between the light, heroic posing and the feathers fizzing out of existence, it's great.

>Tonamikanji can make even those turds look almost passable.

Almost, sure, but Agumon Kizuna looks fucking ridiculous even then. Gabumon Kizuna at least looks like it isn't a total joke though.
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>>19630849
>Please, let this not be the last, let Technodramon finally be a thing, I want it so badly.
You and me both. I've been wondering what that would look like for a long time and I've been hoping talking it up could meme it into existence.

>>19630855
>Agumon instead of Gabumon
Come on, now. You had a perfectly good excuse for a tie-in.

>>19631079
>Gabumon Kizuna at least looks like it isn't a total joke though.
Well it's been the better looking of the two from the start, so no wonder.
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>>19631160
>Come on, now. You had a perfectly good excuse for a tie-in.

Well, yes, so they took it, it's just that the tie in isn't the one you were thinking of.
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Hardly a new thing, but it's so weird to me that they don't lip-sync the humanoid Digimon's mouths to dialogue. Kind of weird on all the Digimon, really, but particularly the ones with human mouths. It's coming up on a decade since I watched Adventure, so I don't remember if that's how it was originally too, but it's still weird as fuck.
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>>19631203
That's something exclusive to this show. Adventure synced mouth flaps.
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>>19628436
>Coronamon
never ever
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Episodes 48 to 51. SUDDENLY PLOT PLOT AND MORE PLOT

48: Mugendramon's Attack
Taichi and co. reach FAGA, only to encounter the vicious Ultimate level Mugendramon. It absorbs Piyomon, Palmon, and Gomamon's data, rendering them unable to battle. Meanwhile, Taichi receives a message from Leomon, who is far away traveling on ElDoradimon while housing the refugee Digimon: "Something odd is happening! Cloud Continent is falling!" It isn't long before even MetalGarurumon's data is absorbed and he is unable to fight. Mugendramon directs its powerful Mugen Cannon at the children and Digimon to give the final blow. Taichi and WarGreymon risk their own lives to protect everyone by charging at Mugendramon...

49: The Evil God Descends, Millenniumon
Yamato, Sora, and Koushiro try to stop Millenniumon from reviving, but Gryphomon attacks MetalGarurumon and it goes beyond their control. While Taichi's sister Hikari is stricken with despair, Mimi tries to console her. But even Mimi's grief at losing Taichi is huge.

50: Finale: The Ultimate Holy War
Amidst Millenniumon's fury, Hikari and the other chosen children don't know whether Taichi and WarGreymon are dead or alive, but they choose to believe that they are still alive and fight. As the digital world is about to be surrounded in darkness, all Digimon send up their prayers for peace, awakening an evolution to Ultimate that no one had predicted.

51: The Mystery Hidden in the Crests
The children overcome their final battle with Millenniumon, when they receive a message from Garbamon telling them that he found something that looks exactly like the crest that shows up on the Digivice at a place called "The Tree of Information." The children hurry there, where they reunite with Garbamon and meet Wisemon, who collects information on the digital world. There they find a secret room that's engraved with the eight crests, and learn of the even further duties that the chosen children bear.
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>>19632688
leomon still alive
Oh no
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>>19632688
Huh, I thought they'd also fight Chimeramon, specially when they brought up the data collecting last episode. Didn't think that would be for Mugendramon.
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>>19632688
Man, so it's really looking like the rest of the cast will get their Ultimates all at once instead of each in their own episode.
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>>19632739
I really can't see that happening.
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>>19632688
Tai/Mimi really is the OTP.
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>>19632746
The cast getting their Ultimates? That's how the Adventur game did it, they all got them during the final fight if you got the requirements for them.
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>>19632771
We're not talking about the Adventure PSP game though, that's not a suitable comparison.

Why would the writers give each kid their own Adult & Perfect episodes and then throw six of them together in one episode?
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>>19620509
>>19628557
now make them fight and jogress
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>>19632778
Bad pacing.
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>>19632762
Mimi is upset at losing No. 72.
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>>19632778
Savers did it with the main three. Then it did it with Yoshino and the kid's Burst Modes.
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>>19632737
It is kind of clever. Instead of fusing the usual way, they just pump the data of Chimeramon's components straight into Mugendramon.
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>>19620509
>>19628557
More OCs please, I collect them
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>>19632688
So did they lose 15 episodes because of COVID?
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>>19633091
That's cool and all but I want to see a jogress sequence of Chimeramon and Mugendramon
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>>19632688
Yo, I'm surprised to see that they're bringing up the crests now. They went almost the entire show not knowing what they represented, so I wonder what can they even do with the concept at this point.
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>>19632688
So Millenniumon doesn't even last that long? Didn't Tri do the whole "Taichi may or may not be dead thing"?
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>>19632688
>episode 50
It would have been nice to see Hikari go apeshit and cause Ophanimon falldown mode again, but it's most likely Goddramon and Holydramon.
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I miss Shoutmon
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>>19613474
not sex partners
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>>19633770
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>>19633888
based numbers
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>>19632739
Rosemon is implied by the focus on Mimi.

I could totally see CresGarurumon and Seraphimon/Goddramon tag teaming Milleniummon too
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>>19633473
The only difference here is that in tri we knew Taichi wasn't dead. These previews manage to dodge that better
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>>19633947
>Rosemon is implied by the focus on Mimi.
Or they go full WTF and it's pic related instead.

It would be fucking hilarious if Mimi got an alternate Ultimate evolution as well.
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Feels good to be a Digimon barafag
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>>19634065
So the Vital Bracelet cover mon gets added to the card game?
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>>19634068
Why wouldn't it?
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>>19634070
surprised me it happened so quick is all
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>>19634065
barafags have always been welcomed by Digimon, look at the original Agumon art
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>>19634068
Pulsemon got a promo card that people liked, so they put another one in this set - as I mentioned >>19630962 its line is probably just gonna be the obvious ones for the first set and then they filter the rest in later.

Pendulum Z1 got shit in really fucking quickly, and Z2's already got shit in in spite of that having basically just come out.
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When is Leomon coming back?
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>>19634392
>>19632688
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What

Since when can patanon evolve into angemon. I thought there was some block
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>>19634601
I'm guessing you missed the Monmon Park episode.
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>>19633986
How would anyone be able to survive one character being so based?
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>Kinkakumon and Ginkakumon in the TCG

N I C E
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>>19637364
Those guys really feel like they should be at least perfects and it really doesn’t feel right that they’re not. Honestly all the journey to the west mons feel really insular, like they’re hardly meant to evolve from or into anything. It’s a weird vibe for Digimon to have (and I probably only feel this way because they have the same style of the last Olympos XII guys).
Sago/Shawujin avoid this by preceding the rest, and I guess there are some decent monkey options for Gokuw, but I still wish there was more there, overall. Maybe someday.
Great to see more obscure shit in the game in general though.
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>>19633986
>Mimi gets so mad that Lilymon just goes full on sukeban
I want it
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>>19632688
>Mugendramon
I would love if this Mugendramon is just made of Agumon's battle data. Fighting his very own reflection.
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>>19637401
>Those guys really feel like they should be at least perfects

Except all the Journey to the West guys are Perfects and Wukong fucking clowned them.
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is cresgarurumon confirmed
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>>19637446
Digimon beating other Digimon their own level is hardly anything out of the ordinary.
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>>19637401
IIRC there was some Chinese game that gave the Journey to the West mons entire evolutionary lines, including Gokuwmon evolving into an armored golden version of itself.
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https://twitter.com/Inomate456/status/1388766485586210823
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>>19638594
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>>19637607
I think that was a bootleg
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>>19637607
No idea about that, but Sanzomon --> Shakamon is pretty much an obvious evolution.
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>Fairymon jobs to a fucking Woodmon and has to be bailed out by Koji during her own debut episode
Wow you guys weren't kidding about Frontier, huh. It's gonna be the "Takuya and Koji" show the entire way through, isn't it?
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>>19633986
Mimi should get Rafflesaimon as a jogress and Burst Mode as a power up to put her on par with Omegamon
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>>19637401
>and I guess there are some decent monkey options for Gokuw


It literally says in his profile he evolves from Hanumon. Theres like dozens of monkeys including Targetmon which was made the same time as Gokuwmon and next to him in the cards. Sanzomon is titties so any tittymon or angelic girl would work. The pig is retarded fuck the pig. Sagomon has tons of water digimon and its nonrecolour line
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>>19640273
You're not ready for how bad it gets.
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>>19640273
If only you knew how bad things are gonna be.

>>19640286
>Sanzomon is titties so any tittymon or angelic girl would work.

Also, you know, the Digimon Buddhist Priest in training evolving into Digimon Buddha, which was made canon even though Sanzomon has been in fuckall.
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Man, I wish they would fix Frontier in the future. It had legitimately cool ideas, but got bogged down with really really shitty direction.
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>>19640334
Frontier's middle arc, when it finally hits its stride, is fucking great. If it weren't for the fact that everything after the initial skirmish with Cherubimon (the initial reveal of Hyper Spirit Evolution, before the fight got cut off) until Lucemon wokke up was fucking abysmal, it probably would be better remembered.
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>>19640286
>>19640327
Man, what is it with Japan and making Tang Sanzang female?
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>>19640397
IIRC it's an tradition dating back to old plays.
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>>19640284
Yes, she should.

Never forget that Mimipower is a canon concept: http://digitalscratch.pmsinfirm.org/7077

>PALMON: Palmon, warp evolve!
>JOU: Warp evolve?
>KOUSHIRO: She’s made a big gamble…
>ROSEMON: Rosemon!
>JOU: She evolved!
>ALL: Ehhhhhh?!
>MIMI: Rosemon!!
>ROSEMON: I’ve missed you– b–but… don’t hug me so tightly, I– I can’t breathe–
>MIMI: Sorry, sorry.
>JOU: What? What makes her different from the others?
>YAMATO: And it was a warp evolution…
>KOUSHIRO: I have no clue… Maybe it’s a difference in fundamental potential…
>SORA: Mimi-chan power, huh?
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>>19632725
give it till episode 55, he'll go down inbetween then
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>>19640287
>>19640327
>>19640334
Did Frontier share 02's problems of the staff having different, clashing creative visions or just plain, outright incompetence?
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>>19641079
I don’t know anything, personally, but the excessive focus on the main 2 guys to me feels like it has the stink of corporate mandate. Like “Tamers gave everyone focus and it didn’t do that good, you better just push the red and blue guys exclusively this time, or else!” type deal.
Fairimon losing to a Woodmon so Wolfmon can look good is particularly pathetic, but for instance Chackmon’s debut also really only had him helping Agnimon so he could save the day, not actually doing much himself. Junpei was the only one they actually let be cool, up until they didn’t anymore.
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>>19640334
I'm really enjoying all the Frontier Digimon in Colon. Petaldramon had a really good episode.
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>>19641152
I've never seen any sources but I've read in the past that Frontier's toyline wasn't selling all that well so they just wanted them to focus entirely on the two main boys since they had major toys releasing and the others were done with. Which does kind of make sense. Especially since Koichi's toys could combine into Rhihimon implying it WAS planned to appear in the show at some point.
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>>19641345
I dunno about that. Something to point out, its not just Raihimon, but like Fire and Light, the two spirits can also combine into the Ancient warrior, AncientSphinxmon.

Its weird that from the start, only a couple of the two spirits could actually combine while neither the Ancient nor the Fusion for most of them look like they even tried.
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>>19641681
Honestly, Aldamon's one of the worst Fusions (literally fucking just Vritramon with Agnimon's head, you ran out of ink didn't you) so them not doing that for all of them was probably for the best. Especially since we got Rhinokabuterimon out of it.
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>>19641681
Yeah I don't think they had planned for everyone to get a fusion but Koichi is pretty under utilized in the final show and his toys were cancelled and unreleased in Japan. Which would have given them a reason not to promote them anymore. They only saw release in SEA territories and America but the original molds were BOJ. He's the only other toy to have that function built in from the start too. The other designs are clearly had no special toy engineering.
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>>19641747
I mean Aldamon does suck, but I don’t see much point singling him out over Beowolfmon. While Aldamon is just Vritramon with Agnimon’s frame, head, shoulders and thighs, Beowolfmon is just Wolfmon with Garmmon’s thighs, chest armor and some extra forearm armor. They are both pretty weak as fusions go.
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One thing Digimon is really missing is evolutions forms from jogress forms. That shit was really cool in 02 even though it only happened once in the entire series.
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>>19641857
All six of the 02 Jogresses have evolutions - Paildramon becomes Imperialdramon, Silphymon becomes Valkyriemon, Shakkoumon becomes Vikemon, Holyangemon becomes Seraphimon, Angewomon becomes Holydramon, and Dinobeemon becomes Grankuwagamon.
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>>19641862
In show
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>>19641862
>Shakkoumon becomes Vikemon
I thought SlashAngemon was his new canon evolution.
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>>19641878
They have never canonized anything about Iori's line that changes it off Vikemon and if it does get changed off Vikemon that's dumb as fuck because it doesn't maintain the duality it had with Miyako.

That said, in other media, Slashangemon and Clavisangemon tend to get used as Shakkoumon evolutions, yes.
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>>19642015
No other aspect of Iori and Miyako or their Digimon is based on “duality” so I’m not sure why this matters.
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>>19642015
>and if it does get changed off Vikemon that's dumb as fuck
Irrelevant seeing as they've decided Vikemon is Gomamon's official Ultimate. They could reuse it if Iori and Amadimon were from a different series like Rosemon being both Palmon and Lalamon's, but both Gomamon and Armadimon are from Adventure so there is practically no chance of them doubling up on Ultimates
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>>19642028
Chitose never evolved his Shakkoumon further, did he?
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>>19642015
>if it does get changed off Vikemon that's dumb as fuck because it doesn't maintain the duality it had with Miyako.
It doesn't need it and Vikemon was always really out of place.
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>>19642036
Nope. Its like they directly acknowledge they haven't really decided how to resolve the Armadimon line for Ultimate and haven't actually decided on a solution. None of its supposed "replacement" Ultimates made it into Cyber Sleuth/HM and its the only Adventure line without one in that game.
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>>19642043
Not just Adventure, but the only anime line in the game without a full evolution line. Tamers, Savers and even the few Frontier mons. Shoutmon doesn't have its Xros stuff but it's own full line, OmegaShoutmon is there
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>>19642051
the frontier mons are skipping the Double Spirit forms, but Frontier itself is hard to balance I guess
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>>19642058
Makes sense considering how quickly Fusion Spirit Evolution got power crept, only being around for a couple episodes before Hyper Spirit Evolution got introduced.

We probably would have seen them if the other Frontier mons got put in, making the requirement for KaiserGreymon and MagnaGarurumon having all of the required Spirits. But since there wasn't, I guess they did see the point in putting in two Ultimates.

Going by the card game, they seem more interested in making the Agnimon and Wolfmon lines go into their Ancient evolutions right now, but that might just be them holding back on the hyper ones for when they're ready to put in Susanoomon. Which could be sion since they're adding in more Hybrids with Arbormon.
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>>19642072
honestly the fusion spirits were a mistake, they should have gotten the ancient evolutions instead.
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>>19641152
>>19641345
>>19641681
I don't know which Toei series is more guilty with the excess MC and rival focus, Frontier with Takuya and Koji or Dragon Ball with Goku and Vegeta.
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>>19642027
It matters because Grankuwagamon and Imperialdramon are paired, and Seraphimon and Holydramon are paired.

>>19642028
>Irrelevant seeing as they've decided Vikemon is Gomamon's official Ultimate. They could reuse it if Iori and Amadimon were from a different series like Rosemon being both Palmon and Lalamon's, but both Gomamon and Armadimon are from Adventure so there is practically no chance of them doubling up on Ultimates

Prove it.

>>19642036
In the video games, yes.

>>19642043
>>19642051
Ah, right, Cyber Sleuth, the game where not only can Shakkoumon evolve into Vikemon, but Vikemon is a Free type, when they specifically made the 02 evolutions all the only Free types above the Child level outside of Shoutmon and the Keramon line.
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>>19642555
>outside of Shoutmon and the Keramon line.

(and the Spirits, Guardromon Gold, and Apocalymon, it should be noted. I think they made Hudiemon Free too? Honestly don't remember. Either way Vikemon was kept as Free and the only reason that makes sense is because it comes from Shakkoumon.)
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>>19642555
>Seraphimon and Holydramon are paired.
?
This is a really weird thing to bring up in support of your argument given that they literally aren’t. Seraphimon’s thematic counterpart would be Ofanimon, Holydramon’s Goddramon. Unlike Imperialdramon and Kuwagamon there is nothing that these two really have in common or would give them any sort of thematic duality. If this is what a “pair” looks like then there is definitely nothing lost by making Valkyrimon’s “””counterpart””” not be Vikemon.
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>>19642838
>Holydramon’s Goddramon

At that point in the franchise, Goddramon was Aerov-dramon's evolution, taken from a contest high placer (the same contest that gave us Cyberdramon among other things). It wouldn't be associated with Holydramon until literal years after that. Hell, it wasn't even a Holyangemon evolution until most of the way through 02, while Patamon and Tailmon's lines were designed in Adventure. And while it's not immediately apparent, yes, Holyangemon was developed the way it was because it was meant to tie into Holydramon, with Seraphimon going after that - that's why they got a scene together in Hurricane Touchdown.

Vikemon and Valkyriemon were developed together, same with Imperialdramon and Grankuwagamon.
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>>19642885
>Vikemon and Valkyriemon were developed together, same with Imperialdramon and Grankuwagamon.
Which is irrelevant since now Gomamon evolves into Vikemon in tri and the current series and Vikemon's lore ties it directly into the the Gomamon evoluionary line by leading Ikkakumon and Zudomon, and aesthetically matches into them perfectly.

Time of release isn't even a good indicator. Rosemon was used in Savers, years after she had been introduced and also tied into Palmon's line originally rather than the Lotusmon created around the same time.
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>>19642938
>Vikemon's lore ties it directly into the the Gomamon evoluionary line


>He thinks Digimon have singular evolution lines in the profile lore

lol
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>>19642938
>Rosemon was used in Savers,


So Savers has nothing go do with Adventure's continuity
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>>19643591
>He thinks Digimon have singular evolution lines in the profile lore
Both the trip and the Anon clearly think that though, just with different lines.
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>>19643651
Oh we have fucking tripfaggots here? The /vg/ thread got ruined by incestfaggots shippers from /a/ and this thread is shit now there is nowhere good to talk about digimon.
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>>19643928
It's literally one guy from the look of it.
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>>19642885
just some tidbits
Goddramon was used as HolyAngemon's evolution in HC once and that was before Seraphimon was a thing (February 2000)
https://wikimon.net/Bo-176

earliest mention of the 4 Great Dragons is December 2001
https://wikimon.net/St-516
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>>19642555
>It matters because Grankuwagamon and Imperialdramon are paired
I'm confused by this. Grankuwagamon and Impearialdramon are paired because they're DNA evolutions where one favors the other partner more heavily. Valkyriemon and Vikemon are just alike but there's no thematic reason for it, and Vikemon itself never really fit Iori, Takeru, or their two partners. Also the only reason it had that form in Brave Tamer 02 is because in one of the previous games Ankylomon could evolve into Zudomon and then Vikemon. It was just kind of slapped on.
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>>19644269
>Goddramon was used as HolyAngemon's evolution in HC once

As secondary to Aero-Vdramon, which it had already been used for by that point due to the Event V-dramon in Anode Tamer.

>that was before Seraphimon was a thing

Seraphimon was revealed to the public as a widescale thing in April 2000... concurrent to the release of 02, and multiple products related to 02. The fact that it was reserved until that point and then released in the D-Terminal, Digica, and I think one other thing that month implies it was planned for that purpose in that line and then saved afterwards.

(This is also important for Vikemon, as its first actual usage comes from the D3 Digivice, but everything in the first three D3s was in the D-Terminal... which is where Vikemon was first used. And immediately afterwards we got Tag Tamers, where Gomamon had a different Ultimate and Shakkoumon still had Vikemon.)

>earliest mention of the 4 Great Dragons is December 2001

So the greater part of a year after 02 ended, when we also had Qinglongmon, and in the product that was either the first appearance or second of Megidramon that wanted to tie those two together.

>>19644899
>Grankuwagamon and Impearialdramon are paired because they're DNA evolutions where one favors the other partner more heavily

And because they're visually similar. Put the two side by side and you'll notice a lot of things carry over.

>Also the only reason it had that form in Brave Tamer 02 is because in one of the previous games Ankylomon could evolve into Zudomon and then Vikemon.

Uh... no? The reason they had that form was that in the D-Terminal they had that form as an evolution for Shakkoumon.

As more evidence, when Vikemon hit Digica, its first card had Shakkoumon as something it evolved from, and Zudomon as JOGRESS ONLY.
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>>19644959
Godramon tied to AeroVdramon back then is irrelevant to now. UlforceVdramon exists now as the defacto Vdramon Ultimate while Godramon is now in the process of officially being a Patamon Ultimate.

Things change. Just like with Vikemon now being the Gomamon Ultimate.
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>>19642555
just curious, except being used for the angel kids, how are Seraphimon and Holydramon paired? Holydramon debuted in September 1998 as a Tailmon Perfect evolution in Digital Monster Ver. S: Digimon Tamers, while Seraphimon debuted more than a year later
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>>19644979
>Godramon tied to AeroVdramon back then is irrelevant to now.

It is relevant because the historical context for why everything was made the way it was is important. You can't look at a franchise as it is now and assume it has always been that way, that's fucking idiotic.

>Things change. Just like with Vikemon now being the Gomamon Ultimate.

For Jou, yes, though plenty of works still give it Plesiomon as an option. The thing is, we don't have any proof at all that Iori's line has changed, and saying it did in absence of any actual proof is, again, fucking idiotic. It's not impossible that Shakkoumon will turn out to evolve into Clavisangemon the next time we see his line - but given they keep doing things that tie Vikemon specifically to Shakkoumon, like how it was implemented in Cyber Sleuth, that's not something you can just assume.

>>19645005
Technically speaking, it ties in with Holyangemon more, given names, when both of those debuted, and the Digivice Version 2 - Tailmon being an odd partner in that it starts at Adult kinda fucked things up there - but Hurricane Touchdown tied the two together at the Ultimate level.
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>>19645047
when did Iori/Miyako have complete lines in the first place
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>>19645047
that digivice got released one year later after Angewomon's and Holydramon's debut
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>>19645053
https://wikimon.net/D-Terminal_Toy
https://wikimon.net/D-3_Toy

They later got into Tag Tamers.

>>19645078
Yes, and Holydramon debuted pretty much at the same time as Holyangemon did in V-Tamers' first chapter.
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New bread ready to go or wait further?
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>>19645047
>The thing is, we don't have any proof at all that Iori's line has changed, and saying it did in absence of any actual proof is, again, fucking idiotic.
Who are you seeing saying this? People are just arguing that your duality shit doesn't matter and that in current year and current franchise state Vikemon is a poor fit for that line, not that Vikemon is not or has never been the ultimate. We all know that he is.
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>>19645047
>Hurricane Touchdown tied the two together at the Ultimate level.
If showing up in a movie together is all it takes to make two Digimon a pair Rosemon has a much better claim to being Vikemon's than Valkyrimon.
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so 02 Armadimon's most common Ultimate is still Vikemon?
did Tamers ever give the side characters actual lines in toys/games?
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I feel like Colon 02 is increasingly more likely given the big success of the card game and Vital Bracelet. If it does, the argument of Shakkoumon's Ultimate will get resolved.

Personally, something I'd like to see is both Paildramon and Dinobeemon get used, maybe a slide evolution mechanic.
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>>19645125
the only real question with the tamers' mons is impmons line (in theory impmon, wizardmon, skullmeramon, beelzebumon), and kenta who already has marine angemon and arguably doesn't need anything else. Kazu ends up with hiandromon, suichon with cherubimon, and jeri would have saberleomon.
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>>19645165
the Gachapon Impmon DIM card is using Baalmon instead of DeathMeramon, which is kinda interesting
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>>19645178
Balloon was obviously designed to evolve in Beelzebumon, so it's not that surprising.
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>>19645200
Baalmon*
I blame auto correct
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>>19645160
>Personally, something I'd like to see is both Paildramon and Dinobeemon get used, maybe a slide evolution mechanic.
Yeah, if they do the 02 cast again with the alt evo shenanigans there's no way they wouldn't jump on this.
Still, while Adventure: 22 isn't too unlikely, I still think that any continuation in this universe would stay focused on the Adventure cast. They know what sells and I don't think there is any incentive to be adventurous on this point. They probably would still bring in 02 characters in some capacity though, question is whether they drop some of the original 8 to add them or try to balloon the cast to an even more unmanageable size.
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>>19645203
The best way to handle it would be to focus on the 02 6 in the first half while alternating through the older 6 before bringing them in fully later. Give the 02 cast some room to grow, but not ignore the older characters that people love.
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>>19645203
The backlash to Tri showed them that 02's cast does have a fanbase even if they're not as vocal as the Adventure and Tamers fans. I think if we get a 02 colon reboot they'll likely do something like Bakugan where Taichi and Yamato stays the main character alongside the 02 cast while the other 4 are supporting characters.
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>>19645246
>Tamers fans
Barely exist in Japan. Tamers is quite unpopular there.
The lesson of tri was that while the 02 cast wasn't as popular, they certainly were not hated and not enough that anyone found their treatment in tri acceptable.

I'm in the minority on this one too, but I also would not mind if Colon tried to rehabilitate Meiko. While Meiccoomon needs a complete overhaul to fix, I personally did not find Meiko herself that bad. At worst she was inoffensive, and her problems more come from having to be tied to the mess that was Meiccoomon.
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>>19645267
>Barely exist in Japan. Tamers is quite unpopular there.
Not really. I don't know why people keep saying this Tamers is the second most marketed season after Adventure in terms of merchandise. Renamon, Guilmon, and Terriermon are extremely popular and Tamers overall gets things the other post Adventure seasons do not. It didn't do as well when it aired but it did do better than what came after and it still moves merchandise to otaku. It's the only season other than Adventure to consistently get paid attention to. That's why the Digivolving Spirits line was going to do Tamers after Adventure. The blu-ray also sold well. Not as well as the Adventure set but it sold well compared to other anime blu-ray boxes like it.
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>>19645324
>The blu-ray also sold well. Not as well as the Adventure set but it sold well compared to other anime blu-ray boxes like it.
Didn't it sell worse than Frontier's?
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>>19645178
DeatMeramon and Meramon were just in the chink digivice not the actual japanese one so it was never canon just chink shit
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>>19645324
It sounds to me you're mistaking Guilmon/Dukemon and Beelzebumon shilling with Tamers shilling. Both of those lines are crazy popular despite Tamers lacking popularity, not because people in Japan like Tamers.
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/dcg/ moment
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>>19645376
DeathMeramon has been used as the Perfect in the Imp-Beel line outside of that, mostly in games. Baalmon never had a level until last year though so it's not like they could/would have used him him before.
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>>19645125
>>19645165
Impmon's full line was recently released in a special DIM for the Vital Bracelet meant to celebrate Tamers' anniversary. Impmon -> Wizarmon -> Baalmon -> Beelzebumon.

Other than that, I don't know if any ever came out.

>>19645346
About as much as, but both sold worse than all of Tri's blurays and way worse than Adventure's. And that's considering that Adventure's most recent release was basically a nothingburger while Tamers and Frontier had some new shit.
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Blu Ray sales for everything that's had them:

Adventure- 12,094
Kizuna- 11,534
tri. 2- 9,602
tri. 3- 9,061
tri. 4- 7,780
tri. 1- 6,074
tri. 5- 5,442
Movies (Box with Adventure, 02, Tamers, Frontier, & Savers films)- 5,190
tri. 6- 4,833
Zero-Two- 3,171
The rerelease of Adventure with 02 and movies: 2,363
Tamers- 2,034
Frontier- 1,058
tri. (2020 box with no new content)- 401
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>>19645324
>but it did do better than what came after
I'm gonna press X to doubt. Savers is pretty well received by non-Adventure series in Japan, notably being the only non-Adventure anime series to get Tamer cards so far in the card, skipping right over Tamers and Frontier to do them after the colon anime versions and Daisuke and Ken, and of course how Masaru was treated very favorably in the teamup crossover in Hunters. Meanwhile, Xros Wars and most particularly Super Xros Wars success with the older demographics is the entire reason that the game development completely shifted to target the older fans rather than just treat them as a periphery.

Tamers is not as beloved in Japan as it is in the West. Yes, Guilmon/Dukemon and Beelzebumon are extremely popular, but that is in spite of Tamers and not because of it.
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>>19645651
autism
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>>19645658
No amount of your whining will change the fact that Tamers is not popular in Japan
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>>19645662
>nobody likes tamers actually, the fact that two big shillmons are from it is just a coincidence. all dukemon and beelzebumon fans actually hate tamers.
>ah you see how the card game gave savers 3 tamer cards? and how masaru was in an episode of xros wars for 20 seconds and i thought that was cool? that's because it is really popular
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>>19645682
Those supposed Tamers fans sure bought the anniversary audio drama to help support and show interest for the Tamers sequel Konaka really wants to make

Oh wait, they didn't? You mean it didn't perform to expectations? But surely those Tamers fans would have supported the efforts for the sequel, right?
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>>19645717
Don't change the subject anon, please go back to how you think 3 cards means Savers is beloved in Japan.
Do you also think Digimon like Sleipmon or Tactimon are more popular than Digimon like Alphamon and Magnamon? They were in the game first, so that's what that must mean, right? Is Tinkermon also more popular than Savers Agumon? Teach me your 300 IQ ways.
Also, you're presenting Savers getting cards presumably evidencing that Bandai is aware that that series is more popular than Tamers and Frontier. So why didn't they do a BD release for it? Those two series may have sold poorly, but since they know Savers would have sold better (because of how it's popular, because see again: 3 cards) surely it would have been worth it to release it. Weird that they didn't really.
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>>19645160
>Personally, something I'd like to see is both Paildramon and Dinobeemon get used, maybe a slide evolution mechanic.

I still want to see Jogress presented as it originally was in the V-Pets. Instead of fusing in to one being, the Digimon borrow some of the other's data to evolve to the next level. That way you wouldn't have to choose. Though swapping who gets to be the "lead" of the Jogress seems more like something they'd implement as an extra gimmick.
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>>19645750
Why do Tamersfags always get so defensive when people imply that Tamers isn't that well liked in Japan?
I didn't say "beloved" I said "well received"

I mean, I could point out how Guilmon got his own Starter deck, and rather than make a Takato card, they made the Vmon and Guilmon decks homages to Digimon World 2 and 3.
And lets not pretend the card game is irrelevant, its a massive hit right now by Digimon standards. And thus far, the main focus has been on Adventure characters for Tamers cards, with the lone exception of Savers. Savers Agumon line has also gotten multiple different releases, comparing to Renamon's line only getting printed in one set.
There is an aspect of them not wanting to blow their load to early and frontload all the most popular Digimon at the beginning. But Tamer cards are not Digimon. They're support cards, and take up different slots in the set. And Tamer cards often are clearly designed in a way to replicate that character and partner dynamic and work great with that specific Digimon. And when BT5 did the Tamers trio, rather than do Tamers Tamer cards, they did more Adventure and introduced the Cyber Sleuth cast, right after the Savers cast and their partners all got into BT4.
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I wonder how Digimon can go around bustin' up those there martian vermin trash that ruin Gundam.



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