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I've always been enamored with the late 90s/early 00s anime in general, but a lot of the mecha shows from that era seem to be forgotten compared to 80s stuff or the more famous shows. Any niche shows worth taking a look at?
I don't even mind if they're not that good, if there's at least something interesting to them like neat mecha designs or artstyle.
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One of Akiyuki Shinbo's works before joining SHAFT was a not!Tekkaman Blade show he did under Tatsunoko. Visually it's a joy, story-wise it's like a surreal fever dream. I think it's his only fully fledged /m/ show aside from some one-off OVAs and the occasional /m/ cameos in Zetsubou-Sensei and PaniPoni Dash.
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>>19590531
Holy shit, that visually looks like something you'd see in like 2006 or so, that's some crazy coloring. It's almost too much to take in, but it definitely piques my interest.

One series I can share is Shingu. It's alright, not like super good or bad or anything, but something about it makes me always come back to it. The characters are fun, the art style is nice, it's just something that feels like a nice chill summer watch. Only weird thing is how they keep trying to sneak in fanservice of the big sister
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Brigadoon is pretty cool, and I like Gad Guard but I know not everyone shares my opinion. Most find it pretty mediocre. I never got around to watching it but I always thought Shingu looked pretty cool because the mech had such a unique design.

>>19590531
I loved Soul Taker when I was in middle school and I'm afraid to rewatch it now because I don't want it to be shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGH59jj7FYM
If I remember right he actually almost got into the US version of Capcom vs Tatsunoko. He was considered for the original but didn't make the cut but because they found he was one of the few Tats. characters Americans knew he was on their list to add in. I assume there must have been rights issues because Yatterman-2 was a weird addition alongside another Joe from Gatchaman and Tekkaman Blade.
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>>19590568
>Gad Guard
This show looks adorable, it's rare to see a huge mech be that cute. Brigadoon seems like some kinda Brave thing, right? Sadly never got too into that scene. Also what, Japan got more CvT characters?
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>>19590583
Brigadoon is suffering porn masquerading as a cutesy alien hero show
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>>19590590
So, Narutaru?
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The IGPX miniseries was a lot of fun for the eyes. Bee Train is one of my favorite animation studios, and I'm always sad at how hard it is to find things with a similar art style. Not even going into the later IGPX show since that's also really interesting, but in its own way.
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>>19590583
I think Japan got our version but Capcom added 5 more characters to the US version of CvT. Joe, Tek Blade, Yatterman 2 Frank West, and Zero. We only lost Daimao who I think was removed from later releases of the Japanese version too.

And no Brigadoon isn't a Brave series but it has the same director as Gaogaigar, and fellow non-Brave /m/ show Betterman. I'm not sure if it Brigadoon takes place in the same universe as those two do. Betterman is great too. A good horror anime.
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Semi-related, but did anyone sub Gaiking LODM after TV-N?
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>>19590614
>I'm not sure if it Brigadoon takes place in the same universe as those two do
The blonde American guy has the same surname as Stallion and Swan and the show itself takes place in the 60s while Betterman and GGG are set in the mid 00s.
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>>19590613
I remember being so upset that the IGPX full series was nothing like the pilot. The race concept was probably more original but the Bee Train version didn't have CGI mechs, and it just had a bit of a better look to it.
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>>19590633
I ended up seeing the pilot after the show, and yeah, it's such a weird direction change. It worked out in the end, but I would have loved to see more of the original concept.
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>>19590468
I really loved Gunparade March's slice of life military mecha, which I would characterise as a show about trying to make the most of life as a disposable drafted mecha pilot who constantly has their life interrupted to fight in an unending war. Most of the cast are goofballs, but the battles and setting are no joke and so it's a mix of that melancholy with school antics and romantic comedy. It's the same director and style as Yomigaeru Sora, a show about emergency services helicopter pilots. The characters can be silly off the battlefield because they're kids, but the world is washed out and grey and the sense of immediate isolation is established with the characters being literally separated from the rest of the high school system in an otherwise empty school building borrowed from a normal school, because it's 50% classroom 50% mecha home base.

I'd say that the show is very niche because it doesn't have enough military mecha action to satisfy pure military mecha fans, but it's also not zany enough for the FMP school comedy crowd. But I really liked its grounded style that knew what it wanted to be.
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>>19590606
Doesn't go as far as Narutaru, but they are in the same spirit.
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>>19590651
I've never heard of this show and I was even doing research for OP to refresh my memory on shows from the 90s/00s and it did not pop up once. Seems cool.
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>>19590651
Looked it up, I gotta say. I was worried at first since that screenshot looked so grey. The show itself seems to have a ton more color, though! Love the concept of people just trying to get by, especially if it's really subtle. Got another pic?
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>>19590691
It's mainly just the first episode's battle that's extremely grey. Other than that the world is very pale but not totally lacking in colour.
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>>19590705
Definitely on my list then, thanks anon!
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Did anyone else watch this show? I only ever caught glimpses of it on TV, but the mechs seemed cool.
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>making a mecha appreciation thread
>on the mecha board
you trying to say something op?
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>>19591098
Jokes aside, I'm just really into that late 90s/early 00s era of anime, and /a/ would not do that sort of thread justice. Love mecha shows, and one of /m/'s greatest pros is its love for the past and its mixed opinions on everything.
And maybe it was a thinly veiled attempt to talk about IGPX and maybe sneak some dothack talk in at some point.
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>>19590468
Dendoh, and it`s high time someone finally rescued latter 2/3 of it from the crabstick hole.
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>>19591228
Was that actually good? Some of it looked pretty neat, but some of the editing and effects seemed to mar it
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>>19591240
Gundam Seed director overcompensating
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I missed out on many 90's/00's anime because stupider younger me couldn't get over how short they were compared to shounen/long running cartoon series. Like Dai-Guard sounded like it would be cool, but then I'd see it was only 26 episodes and nope out. It didn't seem like it would be long enough to get invested in, plus foreknowledge that the series was a one-off and I'd never see anything from that universe again. Dumb, right? Doing better about that these days, and I have picked up Gun X Sword recently so I'll be trying to make up for some lost time.
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>>19590468
Gigantic Formula at Heroic age
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>>19591240
Dendoh is one of the best anime ever made.
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>>19591311
Care to elaborate?
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>>19591273
See, that's why I make threads like this. I don't go on /m/ much these days, but it's always great to inspire someone to check something out they otherwise wouldn't have, or vice versa. Especially true for early 00s mecha, which seems moreso ignored.
>>19591302
Huh, this is from 2007 right? Not finding much about it, but it looks really grey. Did I search the wrong thing?
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Was that one Astro Boy reboot worth a watch?
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>>19590468
Tried watching Godannar recently, unfortunately it kinda sucked and I couldn't finish it. Gonna watch Dendoh and then Dai-Guard.
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Does this count as /m/? It's okay, it's just weirdly obvious how much the artist is a lolicon.
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>>19591576
Dai-Guard is really fun, would recommend before Dendoh if the latter's subs are still bad
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I loved this show, it had a very unique and satisfying way of dealing with time travel and paradoxes, but I don't wanna say more about it because it's highly spoilable.
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>>19591593
Spoil me, it looks fun. What's it about?
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>>19591612
A trio of time traveling highschool boys have to stop _something_ from happening, how? Well one of them is a henshin and has to fight other henshin sent by "them", while the other two investigate how to stop _that_ from ever coming to fruition, will they succeed? Or are they doomed to repeat the past?

This could be said about any other show, but it really picks up in the third act, it's a decently paced show with some charming characters and a couple of really fun episodes before it all goes to shit.
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>>19591635
Is it a big ole bad end deal, or moreso that they gotta work hard for that happy ending?
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Any recs for /xm/ stuff?
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>>19591643
A bit of both but leaning more on the I won't tell you, go watch it :^).
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>>19590651
>>19590717
Just don't disappoint yourself and watch Gunparade Orchestra. It just fucks up everything that made Gunparade March decent.
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>>19592150
>Gunparade Orchestra
Seems like its a spinoff and wasn't nearly as good, yeah?
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>>19590723
Vandread was great
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>>19592225
Another one for the list. It never get a bluray release, right?
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>>19592184
It was shit no joke. Not only does it take a dump over the first one in every way possible then it gives you a cast of the most annoying asshole characters possible. Not one likeable thing about them and the MC well she makes captain useless in Age gen 3 look useful

The show was divided into 3 parts with 3 different casts. The problem is it starts off with the worst bunch first. How bad are they? Well by ep 3 you want to see them before a firing squad by the time their arc is done you still want to see them before a firing squad & you drop the show if you didn't drop it several eps before then. I have no idea how the other two groups are as I dropped at the end of the first arc. I was like I'm done I can't handle one more second of this shitshow

>>19591586
steampunk, airships the EXILE itself its completely /m

>>19592236
sadly no
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>>19592268
And to think most review places said the first part was far better than the other 2, holy fuck.
Also I will always be sad at how ADV just exploded in the messiest way.
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>>19592363
>review places
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>>19590468
Was Rahxephon the definitive 21st century mecha anime?
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>>19590641
>>19590633
>>19590613

Any of you guys play the CartoonNetwork flash game for it? Probably my first mecha SRPG lol
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>>19590723
I got the first DVD as a kid. I was weirdly obsessed with Pilot Candidate at the time and thought it looked similar. It’s so funny how out of place this was among Adult Swim’s lineup: https://youtu.be/DnzcJypc2GU
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>>19592378
Can't blame me for googling a niche series and seeing the little if any talk about it, anon. It's not like I live by them, come on.
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>>19592393
I was thinking of Pilot Candidate too, recently. I love the weird opening and the art in it, but it's so damn oddly paced. Not even going into how it apparently didn't even really end, so much as just stop. So interesting, though....
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>>19592391
I've seen it, looked cool! But I didn't get internet till like a couple years after, sadly.
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>>19592393
Reminds me of DN Angel a bit
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>>19592411
Don't read the manga its worse on the it just ends the final page of the final volume has an old man who was apparently in charge of it all tell one of the cast uhh the kid with glasses come this way and I will show you and tell you all the secrets of that world below and of the space monsters we fight. NOPE instead the reader gets THE END series over we were told nothing

>>19592428
same author
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>>19590651
I fucking love the mecha in GPM. I love that gun metal grey color, and rugged design, I also like the use of what I believe is artificial muscle and armored plates. Wish they got some action figures.
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>>19592628
Christ, what a fucking ride. At least the show has some neat CGI for the time
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>>19592629
>Wish they got some action figures

Well the US LE dvd came with a card you could send in to get a figure of the two seater model they used from the half point of the series till the end. Then later they sold what stock they had left at some of the online anime stores
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>>19592391
I did play it and I remember waiting forever for my dial up to load it. Other CN games did not take as long. I used to really love the SRW-lite Wing game back when I was a kid. I'd play it all the time.
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>>19592393
>It’s so funny how out of place this was among Adult Swim’s lineup
If I remember right Bandai basically pawned it off on them alongside another show in a package-deal.
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>>19592268
>The show was divided into 3 parts with 3 different casts.
I might have to get back to it and survive long enough to see the other casts because the first one is so massively unlikable. I dropped it at the episode where the show is acting like them stealing from the military because they're mad that they're being given low priority because they're fucking worthless losers is the morally right thing to do.
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>>19592363
>Also I will always be sad at how ADV just exploded in the messiest way.
In the end this was for the best. Sentai is effectively the same company, and ADV itself never got to make their godawful Evangelion movie.
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>>19592386
It was for me, got me into Reideen as well
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>>19592386
For me, it was always Dai-Guard with it just oozing that entire anime era's aesthetic. Never watched Rahxephon, I always confused it with Escaflowne for some reason as a kid
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>>19592386
I wish I gave Rahxephon a chance when I was younger. I bought into that "It's just a shitty Evangelion rip-off!" meme and never gave it a chance. It's a pretty alright show.
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>>19592901
>I might have to get back to it

Good luck anon you'll need it. I have no idea how those other two arcs are as like I said I couldn't last any longer than the first arc and done never wanted to touch it again.
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How was Zoids?
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>>19592386
No, Because Dai guard, King gainer and Dendoh were better.
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>>19590613
i watched igpx last week. im really in the mood for racing mecha lately
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>>19590468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOE4Qfans9M

i listened to this op for like 3 hours on repeat.
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>>19596185
Which one?

>>19596307
As far as I know Igpx is the only one. Closest you'll get are the transforming cars in Cyber Formula. Unless you want mechs playing basketball
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>>19596364
what about mech roller derby?
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>>19596313
That's more mid 00s but god damnit, I love that opening too. Flow in general always had some bangers.
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>>19596364
Honestly, all of them. I heard Wilds is a thing now, but I was always curious on the first 3 anime cuz of Cartoon Network. They ever get good subs?
>>19596307
Hell, I might as well ask, did you watch through the DVD or did you find a good torrent?
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>>19596392
Nothing I know of like that exist unless its found in some obscure ova from the 80's or 90's
So I'm going to say that would be no nothing exist like that either
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>>19596185
New Century Zero was the easiest to get into, which makes its presence on Toonami very understandable.

I have no fucking clue what was going on with Genesis/Guardian Force's time slots, besides not having decent ratings... although that might've been because they kept fucking looping the show right after the Ultrasaurus fired the gravity cannon.
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>>19596432
there would be if we got a full Alita series
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>>19596444
Can I ask if you build any of the kits anymore? The HMM kits look fucking good, but nobody on the plamo threads seem to know about them.
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>>19596444
I don't know if wasn't such a bad slot. I used to watch it every morning before school and so did a lot of my friends. I think it should have been on Toonami though.
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>>19590615
there are rips of Toei subs (Hulu/Tubi/etc) but they have their own problems too
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>>19596364
>Unless you want mechs playing basketball
When you put it like that it makes it seem like it'd be a fun show but it's really not.
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>>19596459
>Can I ask if you build any of the kits anymore? The HMM kits look fucking good, but nobody on the plamo threads seem to know about them.
I never built any of the kits. I got a red Liger toy back in the day, but not the kits.

>>19596485
>I don't know if wasn't such a bad slot. I used to watch it every morning before school and so did a lot of my friends. I think it should have been on Toonami though.
Same here, but I honestly don't remember if Toonami was still around at that point.

That said, showing an action show at like 6AM is pretty suspicious, but I'm not sure if it was as much of a death slot as it is nowadays.
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>>19596506
It's a bit of a dead slot since most kids are asleep, but it's somewhat active for adults who head to work. Could say its a tossup, but not a good slot to be in. Shame, since it was a great show, but I guess Toonami at the time was filled with great shows.
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>>19596529
>It's a bit of a dead slot since most kids are asleep, but it's somewhat active for adults who head to work. Could say its a tossup, but not a good slot to be in. Shame, since it was a great show, but I guess Toonami at the time was filled with great shows.
You know, looking at the Zoids wiki, the dates for Guardian Force don't make sense... unless the entire 60-some episode run was repeated for several years, until the last four episodes were dubbed.

Which might explain the weird time slot. They didn't get the final four episodes, with no firm time table, then reran it like crazy to fulfill the terms of the contract.
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>>19596424
Ok then
Zoids: good solid mecha series battles were usually very enjoyable likeable cast overall an enjoyable series

Zoids Zero: A battle sports show thats all it was and a subplot with the zoid mafia sports league

Zoids Genesis: It tired to be like the original not as good but overall worth the watch and then the show decided lets do something real evil and pulled it off too

Zoids Fuzors: It was just a bad series it tried to combine elements of the original with Zero and failed at it 2nd half is better than the first half but that ain't saying much.

Zoids Wild: The people subbing dropped it by ep 6? 7? never watched it so no idea but if noone finished subbing it that tells me I most likely didn't miss much.

Zoids Wild Zero: No idea haven't watched it and according to anidb noone subbed it at all
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>>19596549
You watched the first 4 subbed, or dubs inbetween? Only been able to find the dub online, but I haven't looked too hard
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>>19596503
I know it started out fun and went down hill quick. I don't know if this was the real reason or not but always heard that Kawmori and the other guy that helped create it had a falling out mid way threw and they attempted to fuck each other over on the show so we got that mess.
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>>19596588
Kawamori and the Code Lyoko guy??
I had to google it, how the hell did that combo even happen?
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>>19596585
Zoids, Zero, & Fuzors dubbed I could never find subbs for them beyond one or two episodes. Genesis is subbed only and even back then the video quality wasn't that great. I'm sure it looks horrible on an HD monitor today. You might want to watch Genesis on a phone or tablet to try and lessen the effect of the LQ encodes.
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>>19596600
I guess the same way Kawamori made a show for the Chinese a large sum of money showed up on his desk one day.
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>>19590468
Bravo OP, that period was comfy as fuck.
>>19591586
Definitely /m/ and very good at that.
>>19596453
Kishiro used to be a great artist.
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>>19596641
One of my favorite periods in anime, in general. I would've posted Mezzo Forte but it doesn't really fit /m/ that much.
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>>19590468
90s& early 2000s is best mecha
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>>19596970
holy fuck was that some mess
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>>19596970
sure is anon, it sure is
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>>19596995
Post the CG
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It's a real shame that early digipaint shows are so unfriendly towards HD format. Godannar deserves better than a vesciline covered upscale.
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>>19596602
>Genesis is subbed only
Actually Genesis is dubbed it just never got released in the states because Toonami's early streaming site died. The US dub aired in the Philippines and Singapore but there are no clips online.
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>>19597056
Kind of a shame. I'd have liked to seen it. And if it's all done and just sitting somewhere that's extra tragic.
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>>19592393
Natsu-iro no Sunadokei
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>>19592393
The most consistently amusing part of this show for me would probably be that the "goddess" mechs are referred to as Ingrids, as if they were driven by the spirits of Swedish grandmas.
The show's unwillingness to go anywhere with the plot, characters and potentially interesting concepts was also amusing, but more in a clinical way than actually making me laugh.

If someone put together a 20-minute highlight reel (or two) of all the "funny-bad" moments and crappy dub acting I'd actually recommend it, but as a whole it's best suited as a torture mechanism. Instead of going out on a magnificent septic tank explosion of creative incompetence it just kinda ends due to low ratings and a lack of source material.
(It might be more enjoyable if you manage to coax in a friend though, that's like half the joy of willingly watching garbage)
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>>19596675
Looks cool, I'll check it out.
Blue Submarine no.6 is top period edge. There are submarines so it's m.
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Forgot completely about Eureka Seven. It really stood out at the time, then I feel like the style got copied to this day
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After decades of hearing about how much of an incoherent Evangelion clone Brain Powerd supposedly is I've finally watched it for myself. Turns out it's an extremely easy to understand show about the relationship between parents and children, very standard Tomino fare. After reading a few dozen Japanese and Western reviews of the series I have determined most anime watching westerns are incapable of abstract thought and are incapable of comprehending much of anything. America was the true Brain Damagd.
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>>19598965
>taking anyone that uses the term evangelion clone seriously
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>>19598550
It's one of those things where it's cool to see an episode or two to see like, a taste, and then skip to the end and wonder how it was allowed to end like this.
Apparently the lady who wrote it was notorious for dropping manga, so it's almost hilarious how blue-ballsy it is. Neat enough premise that I wouldn't mind someone just taking some ideas and making them their own in a different way.
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>>19598813
I still have yet to watch that, but it always looked rad as fuck. Good luck with Mezzo Forte. Unironically, the all ages version fits the author's vision more, since he only put the sex scenes in to get it to sell. That said, it does make one scene fit a bit better, but it's a bit uncomfortable, and the other scene just ruins the mood.
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>>19598926
So many anime tried to capture that lightning in a bottle, Eureka Seven included if what people said about Ao is true. Have the E7 movies been trash, too? I forget if the original show is the only good part of that series, or not.
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I thought you guys said EO sucked
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>>19598965
Nice, now despair over the lack of merch.
I think it was just out at a weird time where anime fans were still mostly watching whatever came on and the random VHSes that popped up, so there weren't many people to debate it. Most people were just trying to get caught up with all the old shit, so I can't blame them too hard.
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>>19598965
>about the relationship between parents and children, very standard Tomino fare

It's just a shittier version of Victory Gundam,
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>>19598965
Glad to see people enjoying BP, it's one of my favorite mecha shows.
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>>19599086
Etrian Odyssey?
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>>19599057
True, when you get right down to the core it's pretty much just False Starts: The Animated Series.
If the staff took any of it's ideas (the relationship between pilots and their supports, that odd 19th Century flashback episode, , the mystery of who the Ingrid spirits are) and ran with them instead of floating about in training arc limbo for 12 episodes they'd have at least at least 30-60 minutes of good material.

If Pilot Candidate just ran it's course I'd expect it to be almost on-par with Blue Gender, which I see as decent enough show marred by some debatably deal-breaking issues.
>lead characters start out pretty unlikable but become more sympathetic as the show goes on
>animation team didn't have enough time/budget/manpower to really animate the robots and creatures outside of key moments
>2nd half moved away from the survival schtick in lieu of newtype powers and space madness
>the coldly pessimistic tone (Marlene and her faction sees civvies as expendable because they're defenseless future bug meat and FUCK OFF THE SPACE STATION IS FULL)
Comparing Piss Candidate to Blue Gender in any way is pretty unflattering to the latter, but I hope you get the idea.
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>>19599564
Pilot Candidate could get potentially REALLY terrifying once you remember that they're training to get their potential, and how that potential uses up potential life force to pull off the Achilles yolo stuff for the military. There are so many ways to handle it, it's surreal.
Blue Gender seems depressing but in a boring way, from what you're saying.
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>>19591586
nope
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>>19591590
Just got to episode 13 and the crabsticks are unbearable... Fuck me I really wanted to see this show, dendoh is such a cool and unique super robot. Gonna watch Dai-Guard now I guess.
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>>19599800
I'm so sorry, anon. At least Dai Guard will hear your wounds.
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>>19599600
>Depressing in a boring way
I guess, the grimdark elements aren't the most exotic.
I won't spoil the true nature of the mutation-induced "newtype" powers, but they're essentially just amped-up reflexes, flip-out back blades for the mid-season upgrade mechs and a predisposition towards bloodlust.
It tackles the newtype stuff more conclusively than 0079, where most of it's relevance lies in the last stretch, though I'll admit that I haven't seen Zeta yet. I've been pretty cautious about that show because of it's alleged flaws, but if I could get over the weak parts of BG I'll probably be able to take it just fine.

I didn't mind the pessimism, but I definitely get why people would be turned-off by it.
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>>19599875
Zeta is worth a watch. It's one of those shows that it doesn't really get over its flaws, it just becomes a rollercoaster in spite of it all. I get why people feel all kinds of ways about it, but personally, I loved it for being so surreal.
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>>19590651
You've sold me on giving this one a try, looks pretty neat. Thanks.
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>>19590606
If Narutaru had Richard Nixon as a supporting character, yes.
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>>19591555
The 2000s one? Yeah, but good luck watching it subbed. Animation quality is insane on that show.
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Watching the Iczer sequels was a bad idea. What even is this crap.
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>>19600050
No good quality subs?
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>>19600053
A gloriously cancelled could've been.
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>>19598965
>After reading a few dozen Japanese and Western reviews of the series I have determined most anime watching westerns are incapable of abstract thought and are incapable of comprehending much of anything.

100% Based. Glad you noticed it too. 95% of American fags are really dumb pieces of shits.
They should stick to generic western fantasy/superhero shit or basic jap fantasy isekai or shonen shit crap.

Experimental-type & mecha anime are not most western fans cup of tea or strength.

>"hurr durr you just don't get it"
With their typical brain-lit responses
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>>19598970
>>taking anyone that uses the term evangelion clone seriously

Only a Lazy retard uses "that" typical response as a real dismissive argument.
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>>19600170
>>19600177
Don't be one of those guys. I get that a lot of normies are ignorant about this stuff, but we don't need to go War of the Nerds like we're tough shit.
That said, I do hate how "geek culture" has made that number go from like 5% to 40% recently. So many people who just wanna fight about what they like, rather than the attitude there was 15 years or so ago, with everyone being so chill. Still more chill fans than not, but still a shame
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>>19600058
I just think it's hard to find anything other than the dub. Not like Cyborg 009 used to be where you were stuck with the dub or HK subs at the halfway point, but still not great.
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>>19600364
Wait, is Cyborg 009's remake stuff finally in good quality? When was this?
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>>19600389
Discotek wizards found the sources in the bottom of a safe stored in Davey Jones's locker.
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>>19600476
God fucking bless. Honestly tempted to buyfag, because how often does shit like this happen?
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>>19600483
Discotek is one of the few companies I feel like is worth supporting. I cannot wait for the Project A-ko release.
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>>19599076
Most opinions I've seen around here consider only the original TV series to be good. Not the manga, not the movies, and certainly not Ao.
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>>19600498
Speaking of Discotek and 00s, how was NieA_7?
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>>19600364
The edited version of the dub at that because Sony stopped releasing the uncut dub at episode 8 or 9, and the foreign sets were season 1 only. Feels good to finally have the full show uncut with subs. It's an SD on BD release but the quality is fine.
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>>19600660
>It's an SD on BD release but the quality is fine.

For an an early 2000s digipaint show SD on BD is better anyways. Spares you that washed out color bleed covered in grease look. I said it already but Godannar's BD was tragic.
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>>19600498
If they can rescue Cyborg 009 from Sony Limbo I really hope they can do the same with Astro Boy 2003. The CGI movie flopped and the dub only release was a non-event, surely it couldn't be that hard?
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>>19600724
The costs though
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>>19600349
It's pretty obvious he's an underage 16'er trying hard to fit in anyway.
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>>19602248
Isn't worrying about liking an Eva clone more of an oughts thing? Kids today seem to not give a fuck.
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>>19590651
Found it because Kenji Kawai.
Same deal with Tri-Zenon though.
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>>19591228
Well I did OCR of the Spanish subtitle set that's correctly timed to the main DVD rip I found on the net, however I just don't have time to do anything with it:
https://mega.nz/folder/4M8hEYgL#v4mbv8mTcY0EVNsCjPzMVQ
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>>19591351
2006 or so actually.
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>>19597009
When did this trend end, in 2007?
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>>19602742
What's Tri-Zenon like?
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>>19597056
Did not know that
>but there are no clips online
figures
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>>19604026
I found Chaotic Century subbed, and I think New Century too, and that's basically all the good shit.
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>>19599076
Original TV very good
Moives shit
AO shit so bad it caught on fire from excess methane buildup
PS2 games: very good they nailed LFO combat also has a lovely little we forgot to fix that and you can switch weapons on your LFO in the middle of battle.
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>>19604106
Guess I'm hunting down those fucking PS2 games, then.
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>>19602765
I mean I wouldn't really call it a trend, it's not like they were doing it on purpose that's just how broadcast shit worked
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>>19604085
>I found Chaotic Century subbed
All I ever found was like one or two eps but its been like 8 years since I looked. So who subbed it?

>>19604114
Well worth the time to hunt them down. If you didn't know the game characters appear in the anime at the start of ep 50 IIRC
Also the game gives you a vs (CPU or human) mode and a survival mode in these modes you can use any LFO from the anime and all the original ones that appear in the game even the final boss unit.

To change weapons in LFO battle
Just hit pause go to your weapon menu and pick what you want it'll take ~3-5 seconds for the new gun to load so just use your boomerang during that point if you need too
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>>19600498
Discotek is the only company I consistently buy releases from, with how much work they put into everything they do they deserve all the support they can get
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>>19600542

Slice of life about an ordinary girl and an annoying alien. Kind of a cozy feeling to it.
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>>19604926
Been wanting to know cuz the character design work looks great, thanks anon. Might as well get the bluray along with the other stuff
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>>19600542
I paid full price for dvds back when it was new
fun stuff about poverty and immigrants
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>>19604953
Getting the dorkly seal of approval makes me wonder how the fuck I ain't heard of it before, it seems like people love it
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>>19604966
"character designs by the Lain guy" doesn't sell a show like it did twenty years ago
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>>19592386
I remember reading this exact issue at one of the LA public libraries when I flew there as a kid
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Argento Soma was cool.
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>>19606163
Mechas vs aliens? That black mech looks pretty cool, but the mobile armor-esque Triangle mode looks a bit silly
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Was it actually good?
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>>19607616
yeah
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>>19607616
No.

You know how people bitch about fanservice ruining things? This show was the epitome of that.
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Is Planetes a proper HD show or just an upscale? Watching the BD the picture qualiy seems a lot sharper than the old DVDs, but I might be imagining it.
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>>19607668
How bad is it? I kept seeing it in SRW and the mechs looked rad
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>>19608711
It's cool. That guys a fag.
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>>19608720
>that time Military Ranma went to go train under A Florida Man
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>>19608711
Season 1 is great (I think anyway), and Fumoffu is a fun comedy side show. But I do agree with that anon about fanservice ruining things a bit for TSR. The fanservice the twins in TSR get often feels forced and out of place. Probably because they were boys in the novels.
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>>19608748
>>19608720
I'll try it out then, thanks
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>>19606173
>>19606163
the story is better written than eva which is not hard because eva sucks but Argento soma is REALLY good.
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How was Infinite Ryvius? The opening is dope, but rarely hear about it
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>>19610657
pretty alright.
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Since everyone seems to be asking about shit, how's Stellvia?
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>>19590651
I swear I've seen you mention this multiple times and I forget it each time. Not this time. Thanks for the sell.
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>>19610657
It's a great show, but nobody on /m/ talks about it anymore because it has one of those schizo shitposters who tries to kill any discussion. By all means check it out.
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>>19610198
FUCKING TRY IT. If the first season moves too slowly/is too goofy for you, try the first three books, but TSR and IV are both absolutely amazing and drop much of the comedy. Fingers crossed IV + plastic did well enough to finance a final animated season to finish it off, we're so close. I would actually still recommend reading all the books anyway, because it's very clear the author, truly, deeply loves mecha and is a general military otaku, and goes just the right level of in-depth and making the most of what humanoid combat vehicles have to offer. I'm really, really fond of book 8 (IV episodes 5-8) in particular. RIP angry white frog.
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>>19611063
He has FINALLY been banned, actually, IIRC. I think we got a mod a while back. He's moved on to tumblr or wherever.
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>>19590613
Did the bluray come out yet? Waiting on discotek to get that going, since iirc it's just the DVD out now, right?
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>>19611076
>we got a mod a while back
We're finally moderated?
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>>19611101
I have no idea what they fuck they're doing, but I remember one thread of some anon asking for recs that he shat up, kept getting deleted, showed up again, then spammed like 3000 posts of schizo rambling in ghost mode on desuarchive, and I don't think I've seen him since. Some anon on here found a twitter or tumblr or whatever but I hope no one pokes the bear. They fucking suck at everything else, but at least they got rid of him.
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>>19611056
You probably have, I've taken the opportunity to shill it a few times before. I can't promise that everybody will like it, but I want people to at least give it a try in the first place.
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It's slowed down or disappeared in recent years but I'm surprised that Mars Daybreak had such a poor reputation on /m/, it used to be seemingly reviled despite being a pretty decent and extremely forgotten mecha show that's more concerned with being fun than having a heavy plot focus, and I think it definitely succeeds in that. It bills itself as a lighthearted fun show about underwater mecha pirate adventures and I think it delivers on that. I don't think I could rate it any lower than a decent fun time even if I were harsh on it.

I'd say its biggest weaknesses are the action being just whatever most of the time despite having Bones animation and some neat mecha designs and a unique premise, and the main two girls being very unlikable. The one voiced by Sochie/Hime's VA is okay most of the time in my opinion but the other is a selfish jackass.
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>>19611691
Is that a dolphin mech?
I need some video of this in action
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>>19600349
They fight because a) they're young and need to prove they belong, b) they're used to argument and tribal posturing being the primary method of discourse, or c) both.
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>>19611819
Yeah, shit's tiring already. I'm glad there's still new blood that isn't as annoying, though.
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You guys are sleeping on the best series from that era: Bokurano.
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>>19611879
Bokurano is kinda obvious, and while I do like and appreciate what it does, iunno about best series.
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>>19611033
seconded, I'd also want to know
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>>19611917
I keep seeing the Blu-ray for Stellvia around and I've been so tempted to get it, but I haven't heard a thing about the show
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>>19611675
>>19590651
I wish whatshername didn't die ;_;
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>>19611879
It bastardizes the manga.
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>>19611033
It's modern version of Gunbuster set in a Harry Potter-esque space school with some SF references to "Childhood's End". Definitely recommend.
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Whats the best place for finding the old stuff like this now? Lost a drive that had like 80% of my older stuff on it from the last 15 years.
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>>19612945
Nyaa.si
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>>19612727
That last part you said has me a bit worried. Does it reference the end of that a ton, or just some small bits?
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Argento Soma was nice
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>>19614060
Nah it's more of a it's neat if you recognize the references but it works well enough without any knowledge of it. And no, nothing about the end.
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>>19615315
Thank fuck, because as interesting as that novel is, it's depressing as hell to think about. Thanks though anon, def getting that bluray
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>>19592386
Wherever Eva is on my favorite anime list I'd put Rahxephon just a single slot behind it. They're similar Eva only wins out because it's OP is probably my favorite in anime, while Rahxephon's is ONLY just top tier amazing

On that note, I saw it's getting a blu ray release - does Rahxephon fall in that early 2000s window where shows were made in a certain way that they won't actually benefit from bluray, or will I be opening my wallet to upgrade my dvds?
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>>19596970
What I remember about the Cybuster show
>Some of my favorite character designs in all of anime, but also some of the worst (and most >frequent) QUALITY I've ever seen
>Amazing ED song, pretty good OP
>Half the episodes ending on a completely plot-changing cliffhanger and then the start of the next episode either not acknowledging it or just saying "nevermind nothing happened"
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>>19615548
Sounds fucking awful, jeez
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>>19612727
Japan really loved that book it seems.
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There are few anime I like as much as GunxSword.
I recently rewatched the BDs and it really holds up as one of my favorites. It's all so stylish and the world is plenty interesting.
I fucking love it.
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>>19618199
Always figured it was either a common science fiction recc or people wanted to know what inspired Newtypes.
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>>19618199
Japan loved/loves a lot of older science fiction works
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>>19618210
God, it's fucking infuriating that the GunXSword BDs never got released in the West. There's so many series from around that period where even though they got Blu-Rays in Japan, the only option for the gaijin paypigs is an out-of-print DVD because the licensors just outright stopped giving a shit or the license fell into limbo.
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>>19618270
Scryed and Planetes both just got english BD releases, don't give up anon. The only old shows of his left are Infinite Ryvius and Gun x Sword, and GS at least was profitable over here.
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>>19618448
Yeah, I guess GunXSword doesn't really count in that example because you can still buy the DVD for relatively cheap, but it's still Funimation. They were still too lazy to release the BD over here and I don't think there's any chance that someone will snatch the license away from them.

also when's GaoGaiGar
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>>19618270
>>19618448
>>19618464
Believe in Discotek, the same crew who somehow got remasters for Project A-Ko. One day we will get GGG as another rescue project after it's rough treatment with it's dvd release.
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>crtl+f
>no Gravion
Pure kino and possibly my favourite /m/ series ever.
Has some downsides like the fanservice being awkward (product of Obari not knowing when to properly reign in his Obari levels), and the animation outside of the mecha scenes going off-model a lot.
It's a simple but effective storyline that's episodic and doesn't fuck around giving you masses of filler. Would rec. Would also rec this too, >>19618210
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>>19618210
I loved GxS too. Just a really fun ride.
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>>19619055
Yes it is and the still the only show I know of where a girl pilots her mech by pole dancing. But that show had a lot of cool & crazy ideas in it
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>>19618210
How you liking Back Arrow?
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>>19614187
It was an enjoyable show with an 11/10 ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNuA255ELEg
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>>19614187
what i expect: eva clone
what i got: how to deal with loss
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Daigunder will always have a special place in my heart because it's the only anime my best friend cared for
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Anyone else seen Figure 17?
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>>19618519
Gravion gets extra points for being a Gonzo show that somehow ended up having actually drawn mechs.
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>>19619980
Im pretty sure FMP s1 had drawn mechs. And Gad Guard.
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Though speaking of Gonzo, Samurai 7 was pretty cool.
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>>19620171
Cute Hinoki butt
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>>19619977
Lovely show. Probably Takahashi's best. It's half slice of life and half sci-fi monster of the week. While the latter is not nearly as good as the former, it really wouldn't work without both.
The slice of life half is great. It's a 2001 show but the tone of the show is straight out of the '80s, which isn't surprising since they reference a popular '80s Hokkaido J-drama as inspiration. Unlike a lot of slice of life shows, it manages to be largely uneventful but simultaneously keeps the viewer in a constant state of unease. That along with Kobayashi's fantastic backgrounds that he made as a love letter to his hometown really sold the setting to me. It's the best depiction of Hokkaido I've seen.
The sci-fi part was decent but wasn't very good. The biomech designs were okay. The monster designs are pretty good. They mention that they're inspired from "The Thing" but overall it reminds me more of "Alien".
It really needs a Blu-ray + CGI recomposite like Lain got. Most of the show was done on cel, which they scanned to 35mm film, but it had some CG that they would probably need to redo.
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There's this timeless classic.
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>>19620270
What's special about it?
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>>19623097
A wonderful flute duet.
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>>19623154
Hang on is this the flute rape show
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>>19623156
>flute rape
This is a topic I may be interested in
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>>19623177
There was a show /m/ memed to hell for a bit because some lesbian raped some chick with a flute
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>>19623177
>>19623178
>>19623156
Good good times.
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>>19623262
>>19623178
>>19623156
This sounds like those stereotypical anime shows that normies used to think was real back in the 90s. What the fuck?
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>>19623262
>>19623177
Found the scene, holy shit. Didn't see the infamous flute, but that was 100% a rape. Surreal seeing a comment on the vid of some guy going "Ahh yuri shows, they don't make them like they used to."
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How about Battle Fairy Yukikaze?
I know its planes, but was that any good? I heard it was what influenced muv luv
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>>19624134
>Didn't see the infamous flute
Well you wouldn't. But it was there.
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>>19624134
I mean he's right. Yuri these days is incredibly tame compared to what we got in the past.
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>>19625196
In a way, but there really was way too much rape back then. I'm sure there's a happy medium between YuruYuri and flute rape.
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>>19625220
Which Yuru would
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>>19625220
I agree, but it's funny that Yuru Yuri is actually on the more intense side of things these days.
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>>19597009
Is there any good way to know when a blu ray set is not any kind of upgrade over its dvd counterpart? I know there's some vague window in the 2000s but that doesn't apply to everything. Do you just have to pray there are reviews from previous buyers who rate based on its actual quality and not whether it got damaged in shipping?
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>>19625152
All I've ever heard about it was that it was Ace Combat but even more focus on realism, in some ways. Still very sci-fi, but more grounded and goes into how modern dogfights feel less and less like you're fighting other humans. Anyone who can confirm if that's right?
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>>19626239
I made a thread for blu ray and just that. And basically, yeah. You're kind of fucked. It stinks because most people who leave reviews are idiots who just put their dumb 2 cents in on about the show with no explanation of quality. Even a lot of older shows get hit with dumb DNR shit for reasons I can't understand.
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>>19627634
You get military vehicle porn for the men plus really overt yaoi tones for the ladies.
If you're a dense cunt like me though, the gay stuff was only made apparent after being told it was there.

More seriously, it's very good if you want to look at an extraordinarily pretty and absurdly manoeuvrable fictional plane.
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>>19596307
It's outside of the thread's subject matter but Dead Heat is literally what you want.
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saw this recently
also saw
>The Soultaker
>Overman King Gainer
>Flag
and I'm currently watching Gasaraki, which is really good
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>>19599101
Remember that weird period in the mid 90s to the early 2000s when Bandai had those little vinyl figures with their kits a lot?
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>>19627972
I was still pretty young by then, so I only had the most basic of anime VHSes, sorry. That said, feel fucking free to bust the thread open with that nostalgia, because I love hearing about how different that era was to ours.
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>>19627986
Well, nothing too serious about it, just that Bandai loved including these little vinyl figures with their High Grade kits of the time, especially for their non-gundam Sunrise series of the period.
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>>19627996
And the annoying thing about them was that the vinyl was really soft, but had a large mold line, so trimming it was often going to result in leaving a mark, and that the vinyl itself was tricky to paint as it didn't like many primers.
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>>19627996
>>19627999
Sounds annoying as all hell, but still pretty neat. Did they fit inside the kits, or nah?
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>>19627951
I'm gonna definitely watch it then, thanks anon
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>>19628008
No, they were cast in one piece and were meant to be displayed like in the pics.
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>>19628072
Oh, well shit...
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>>19628008
Well, the Gasaraki kits came with separate sitting ones that you could place inside.
Hope you enjoy masking stuff because you pretty much had to paint the figure, cover it and then build the actual kit around it since you couldn't put it in afterwards.
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>>19628105
I can understand that they were old kits and it makes sense, but the inner plamo fan in me can't help but feel fear at that. We are so lucky nowadays
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>>19628119
When I look at how far toys models and figures have come I can't help but be insanely jealous over it and the fact that my favorite series stopped being relevant ages ago and will probably never get one.
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>>19630777
That's me with the Asshimar. It's never gonna get a new kit...
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>>19623262
I forgot all about this. Those were some good times.
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>>19627972
I remember when I started getting serious about building Gunpla I was surprised to learn that the figures that came with the Wing kits I built as a kid were not the norm for 1/100 kits. I was pretty bummed about it.
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>>19625152
I hear the anime added unnecessary yaoi stuff.

I just read the books a month ago, and that is one hell of a "sex is useless" energy story.

Also, no fucking ending and some dry ass prose.
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>>19636376
No ending in the books? Woah
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>>19636410
Literally ends on a cliffhanger with Rei flying off into a battle.
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>>19625155
>>19624134
>>19623262
>>19623177
>>19623156
It's actually a sword. You can see her use it in a few other scenes against the Orochi.
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>>19637164
BUDDHA CHRIST!
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is this /m/ enough?
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>>19637192
If you have to ask
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>>19637192
Always think about it when I hear late 90s-early 00s, but I think it's not /m/ enough
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>>19637192
I resent Final Fantasy Unlimited because it could have been anything and it chose to be nothing. Which is a melodramatic way to put it but it feels right because holy shit it's like an entire show made out of low effort filler episodes where everything is painfully formulaic and nobody develops as a character or advances the plot. It's so boring and passionless despite having an incredibly flexible premise of travelling between worlds. There's a couple of okay bits here and there but the whole thing is just wasted potential. A lot of pieces are there to make for a good show but it just feels like nobody working on it really cared enough to put it together which is weird. I stuck with it because I wanted it to amount to something and it just never did. I think Digimon-style adventure shows involving trains are cursed between this and Frontier.

It has a banging stock footage attack theme though, and I've seen Kaze's bullet spin be blatantly copied a couple of times.
https://youtu.be/Oz8AY3gGei0
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>>19637697
This just reminds me of Pilot Candidate again, pffft. At this point, I'm fine coasting along to see the potential, if it's short enough. If it's some long season of nothing though? Fuck that
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>>19637726
It's 26 episodes and it got cancelled, they wanted it to be 50 episodes.
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>>19637733
26 episodes is more than a lot of shows get. And plenty to tell an engaging interesting story. And even if the episodes were all largely filler, if they were engaging and interesting it would have at least still been entertaining.
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>>19590568
having finished Soultaker a week ago I'll tell you it's pretty good
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>>19638497
It REALLY depends on the scope of the plot and cast.

Mecha anime has the disadvantage of a lot of shows trying to tell big, broad scope stories with big casts within roughly the same time as ~26 hour long episodes. That's basically 1 or 2 seasons worth of show in live action, and unless you're really lucky, the general way things shake out is the first season(s) are kind of janky, and season 3+ is where it gets good.

You can avoid it with a great team who's all on the same page, but it's pretty rare in Hollywood, so expecting anime to nail it is a bit much, especially in original works.
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>>19638497
I don't remember FFU well but from what I remember the back half that only got produced as audio dramas, novels, and manga is way more interesting than what got animated. Not good but things happen. It was a heavily backloaded series plot-wise to the point where, from what I remember, the plot info we have implies the back half would have been cramped and rushed.
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>>19638497
That's the problem, I wouldn't care if basically went nowhere and was even more episodic than it already is if those individual plots were good. FF:U's primary problem is that it's just boring most of the time. It has a lot of room for creativity it rarely uses, which sucks because I love shows that have the opportunity to be something different every episode, if it just threw ideas at the wall to see what stick it might have at least been a fun ride of seeing what happens next.
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>>19638589
I recall everybody in my circle back in the day really liked the Ma-Gun, and basically every week we'd try to guess the summon as he loaded it
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>>19639358
I ended up buying the ADV dvds in Rightstuf's clearance bin like a decade ago for 2-3 dollars a piece and I really didn't think it was terrible but it's not too memorable either. I could probably say that about a lot of Gonzo shows from the early 00s though.
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>>19596444
>Genesis/Guardian Force's

Genesis never got aired in the west. The original Zoids did - well, the anime named "Zoids", technically it wasn't the first Zoids animation but shut up, not relevant - but it got split in two for some reason as Chaotic Century and Guardian Force.

The original and New Century were good, and I like Genesis even though the West never got it, but god almighty was Fuzors a mistake. Just fucking bad.

>>19596549
Zoids Wild was a massive fucking hit in Japan, far eclipsed the older Zoids series (they like Genesis the most). I've heard a lot of good shit about it, but it wasn't mainstream in America so fansubbers didn't care. Wild Zero I've not heard as much about but they spun it off into other things so it was probably a success.

>>19598970
Now, that's not fair, Dual! Parallel Trouble Adventure absolutely did have some shit heavily based on Evangelion. It's also a better show than Eva though so.
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>>19639492
Shame that they fucked up a show based around good old gattai
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>>19604085
>>19604205
It's dubtitles, this is really obvious whenever you get to the scenes that didn't make it into the dub and the subtitles suddenly stop.

>>19610657
I dislike it, but I've always disliked Lord of the Flies style shit, so my opinion of it is biased inherently. Most people seem to think it's alright.

>>19611691
That happens sometimes. G-Dangaioh's a similar case - show itself is pretty average, a bit mediocre, until the end of the show when Dangaioh Ur shows up and it jumps all the fuck up to like a 13/10, but it gets rampantly shit on wherever you go. I'm wholy convinced that the whole "THE RATINGS WERE SHIT AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS CANCELLED" must have been because it went up against a wildly popular show that stole the ratings, it's nowhere near bad enough for that.

>>19619840
I've heard it's the only mecha anime Vietnam really had as an option from a Vietnamese acquaintance I have.

Mind you he shares my opinion that the show was an absolute fucking travesty but on the plus side it DOES have a good opening and Norio Wakamoto as a major villain, and that's always nice at least.

>>19639520
It will forever infuriate me that the show had the main mech be a Liger Zero combined with a giant phoenix in a way that looked cool as fuck, then unceremoniously murdered the phoenix, had it come back and go "haha fuck you," and 'upgraded' the mech into fucking this thing, which, despite combining with a bird, lacks wings and thus flies around by just kinda moving through the air.
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>>19639527
Yeah, the Phoenix does look really cool. At least it got to live on in other Zoids media
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>>19639492
>but god almighty was Fuzors a mistake. Just fucking bad.
All I remember about Fuzors is that as a kid I was really fucking confused every episode. I just didn't understand what was happening. It wasn't like that was common for me either Fuzors is like the only show that confused me like that. Did CN even air it all? I don't remember finishing it.
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>>19639422
yeah I recall it wasn't especially bad but it was pretty meh outside of "Final Fantasy thing"
also didn't they get kinda tentacle-y at the chick considering how young the show looked to be aiming?
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>>19639583
I saw the first episode when my brother was born, and was equally confused. Don't remember seeing it again, but the commercials were always on.
>>19639527
Fuck, being a Zoids fan must be suffering. I would pay good money for a nice Discotek subbed release, especially of the first two. Japan put it out on bluray not too long ago, maybe there's a chance?
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>>19639583
It's simple, you see, Fuzors is what happens when they want to make another series like New Century - a tournament fighter focused on a small cast of characters - but don't want to have a tournament, and don't want to focus on the characterizations of their small cast that much either.

It's also has a lot of major important plot holes that basically kill any chance the resolution had of not being totally fucking moronic.
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>>19639903
Wasn't the big thing that Fuzors sucked, but the actual Zoids were neat?
Wish I knew if the HMM line was good
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>>19639970
I've heard nothing but good about the HMM line but I haven't built one myself.
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>>19639970
The line itself? Some were good, some were bad, much as most Zoids lines go.
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Cybuster wasn't that bad outside of context.
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>>19640350
>IF U DISAGREE WITH ME U ARE EVAFAG LOLOLOLOL

Called out by name, subhuman 16'er scum? Go the fuck back to /a/ so you can cry about teh ebil westunurrs (read: blacks and queers) you fucking chode.
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>>19640591
I find it funny that in all that insulting some other anon post you decided to go and edit it to make it more politcorrect
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>>19640628
I decided that was a bit too far, this isn't /b/ after all. And besides, I needed to clarify further what is usually meant when /a/spies say that.
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>>19590531
Great and very underrated series. Watched it last year and it has held up really well. Shinbo's art direction was really on point back then.
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>>19640349
I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion. I love how things looked, even though it was a very transitional period for anime in general. Something really comfy about how everything was so colorful.
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>>19640349
>Nagano's mech designs are all too samey to be very compelling toys.
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>>19640767
Just report the underage and move on.
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I gotta be honest, when I made the thread a while ago, I'd just come back after around 8 years hiatus from /m/. After how fun this thread has been, I can easily say I'm having fun on the board again, so thanks for all the great reccs and conversation. Tempted to make another early 00s thread after this one gets archived, but I think I don't wanna force it.
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>>19641357
>Nagano's mech designs are all too samey to be very compelling toys
VF-1s are all basically the same and toys of them sell like hot cakes, so claiming that designs that are allegedly "samey" wouldn't make for "compelling" toys is completely nonsensical.
The first part of that statement is also flat out incorrect, none of the BP mecha look alike beyond Nelly Brain and Hime Brain.

>Go ahead and tell me why you think Bandai pressured Sunrise to drop Nagano repeatedly as the main designer on projects in the 80s
Because they're chickenshit dumbasses who wanted Gundam to retain the 70's design aesthetic (see: their Zeta Gundam concept)? If they completely would've gotten their way then there's no way Gundam as a franchise would've survived beyond Zeta. The evolution of the aesthetic allowed the franchise to remain fresh. Also; all three Gundam projects Nagano was demoted on / removed from were still heavily dripping with his influence and design elements he came up with are being used in Gundam media to this day (even by Bandai, the great hypocrites they are).

>Bandai-- the company whose chief concern is selling toys with broad appeal.
So it's about "appeal" now? I thought you were bitching about being "compelling" or whatever the fuck.

>His personal style is too complex
Mate, they've made Bayformers into mass market action figures. Basically nothing is off-limits.

>too lacking in stylistic variation (pic related)
Nice cherry picking, retard. Try actually reading the manga before making baseless judgement calls.

>to be successful as anything other than top-shelf resin kits.
Again, there have been numerous robot designs more complex than Mortar Headds and they've been made into toys just fine. Hell, Nagano even provides detailed articulation schemes for MHs in his FSS art books.
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>>19642098
autism
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>>19642098
Warning accepted.
A G-rated reply, because we are all fa/m/ily here:
>>19641754
>VF-1s
Are also much more simplistic in their design. Much more suitable to be toys.
>Bayformers
Brain Powerd was not an international record-setting blockbuster film with a Burger King promotion.
>none of the BP mecha look alike
Strongly disagree.
>Also; all three Gundam projects Nagano was demoted on / removed from were still heavily dripping with his influence and design elements he came up with are being used in Gundam media to this day (even by Bandai, the great hypocrites they are).
As I said-- his most commercially viable design work is when he didn't have total control.
Bandai knew their industry. And with profit as their highest motive, they determined that Nagano-- left unrestrained-- was a liability.
Bandai's made plenty of poor business decisions...but this was not among them. Go ahead and tell me that CCA would have had the same appeal with Nagano as head designer.
>So it's about "appeal" now? I thought you were bitching about being "compelling" or whatever the fuck.
I encourage you to give it some thought.
>Nice cherry picking, retard. Try actually reading the manga before making baseless judgement calls.
It's not cherry-picking.
It is not provocative to suggest that Nagano's designs lack stylistic variation. Your enthusiasm for the man's work appears to cloud your judgment.
However, although we respectfully disagree on this aspect of Nagano's artistry, I do appreciate the time you have taken to contribute content to this board and to challenge my reasoning in this enthralling discussion regarding shows and media of our mutual interest.
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>>19642666
>Nagano's designs lack stylistic variation

I genuinely fail to see any similarities between the 4 Mortarheadds in this picture. Please do point them out to me if you can.
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>never ever
It hurts
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>>19642747
They're all really great designs. That's something they have in common.
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Here's one I had almost forgot about as its been a long time since I watched it.It was bugging me in the back of my mind as I couldn't remember what it was called

Super Mobile Legend Dinagiga
Has a very catchy OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJktDJOaVPE


>>19639527
>It's dubtitles

Oh...thanks for the warning I won't worry about it then.

>>19627962
I had completely forgotten about this one and I even watched it years ago. Now I feel bad about telling that anon nothing else existed.
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>>19642747
>I genuinely fail to see any similarities between the 4 Mortarheadds in this picture. Please do point them out to me if you can.
Why yes, it would be a pleasure.
First, I refer you, quite simply, to their silhouettes and general proportions. Second, observe their indecisive ornamentation. Nagano's style is unmistakable and it pervades, entirely, his every work. So much so, that your careful selection of figures-- intended, one must imagine, to fabricate a contrary impression (a "cherry-pick", if you will)-- is itself betrayed by their every waifish curve, by each ornate pauldron and stiletto heel...indeed, by the lasting mark of Nagano.
Immediately they conjure deja-vu-- "I've seen these before."
You have. We all have.
My apologies for your affliction, friend. It does appear that you are in want of keener eyesight and some artistic perspective. Best wishes to you in your journey.
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>>19641357
>Nagano's mech designs are all too samey to be very compelling toys

It's clear you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and are exhibiting maximum cope after jannies smeared your dumb ass shitposts.

Samey designs are adored and preferred by toy companies because they're literally the same molds that can be recycled over and over, maximizing profitability because it forces people to buy the same toy over and over.

It seems to me that you simply lack an eye for detail, and are generalizing your non-existent observation skills in some pathetic attempt to get replies.
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Remember when this thread was about 2000s mecha instead of an autistic slap fight over 80s/90s era nagano mecha design? Good times.
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>>19642666
>>19643096
I was going to make a reply, but luckily I checked your deleted post. End yourself, dumb shitposter.
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>>19643233
To think that that's what made it reach bump limit makes me sad, but not surprised.
Was a great thread though, gotta say. Just as nice as those 80s mecha threads, honestly
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>>19643392
Unfortunate, that you find yourself totally incapable of responding to my argument. I'll go easier on you next time.
>>19643197
>Samey designs are adored and preferred by toy companies because they're literally the same molds that can be recycled over and over, maximizing profitability because it forces people to buy the same toy over and over.
So, you admit Nagano's designs are samey now? :)))
You're finally seeing the light of reason, my dear and cherished friend.
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Thanks to everyone who made the thread great



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