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Too bad you can't get access to both Geant and Dea without using cheats. I've always wanted to replicate what happened in OG.
>>19390464He is, yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uMppR0bQbsGundam X desu
>>19390588Sounds about right
>>19390588At least Bamco was nice enough to wait until I had some disposable income to start shilling OG merch
Remember to buy or OG isn't going to happen soon.
>>19390727You have been reminded TWICE.
>>19390727Scalpers and such will take care of it for me
What's the difference between this and Bandai's SRW OG HG line?https://bandai-hobby.net/item/4371/
>>19390727Wait, you can buy the individual R series separately? Does this mean the SRX doesn't actually transform on its own?
>>19390739This is Sentinal brand. The madman brand with soul.Bandai is soulless cheap toy sweatshop brand.
>>19390739One's a do-it-yourself model kit and the other's a preassembled figure.>>19390748No. The SRX one is just all the individual components vs buying them separate.
>>19390748It should, buying all three units adds up to the total SRX cost.
Aya is lonely, frustrated and horney!
>>19390748They all transform. The R-1 and R-2 just come out before December for the impatient.The SRX is just the price of all 3 together
>>19390748It means they want you to buy them separately for the individual R machine box art and for display separately.Then pick up the SRX complete box for the R Formation art and display the combined form.In short they want you to buy 2 SRXs.
>>19390588Fuck outta here with this shit.
>>19390776>In short they want you to buy 2 SRXs.Don't forget the third one for storage, just in case.
>>19390778and don't forget about R-Gun.It IS coming out.
>>19390776>>19390778hm... so about $1800 total? assuming you would buy three (3) SRXs. Shipping and possible customs taxes not included.
>>19390732oh shit, I always hoped a set of model kits would come first to do a complete SRXwhose buying it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qhGkwMHz4Y
>>19390805The old Volks SRX kit has been out for over a decade anon, but it's also pretty expensiveGonna wait and see if Bandai does an SRX kit since the SRW OG line just launched
>>19390805Already preordered since I have no shameBeen a longass time since I bought any figures anyways.
>>19390809You know you want the complete figures.https://sen-ti-nel.co.jp/other_information/6015/You know well that Bandai's plamo (if there will be) can't be that awesome.
>>19390727>>19390732this is by the same guys that have released multiple iron man figures right? I bought their Hulkbuster years ago (the one that looks like a football player) and it is still very nice to date, I'm really eager to see thismaybe just for all the geometry going on in the transformation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poii8JAbtngOfficial unofficial thread theme of edition #1899.
>>19390831Why couldn't i be born rich, bros...
>>19390825>the one that looks like a football playerThere are multiple Hulkbuster figures?
>>19390831IT ACTUALLY KEEPS ALL THE WEAPONS!?
>>19390843will it even incorporate LEDs or something?
>>19390863It's time to show your loyalty...
this is definitely a must-get, Sentinel is probably one of the best Japanese companies to product a high quality robot figure.
good good but where's the R-GUN?
>>19390838>天上天下無敵剣 (mutekiken)Wasn't it 念動爆砕剣 (nendoubakusaiken)
So if I don't buy those now they will be impossible to afford later because this shit always gets more expensive right?
>>19390871That's the name of the attack where the sword explodesIt hasn't had the regular sword slash since OGG
>>19390867I wonder if they will include a stamp for purchasing the specials like one of their earliest works. I mean the madmen are mad enough to go aim for Alter if the sales is good...
>>19390876Well Dancougar got a re-release with alternate color.For SRX case I really do think it will be a one shot since Bandai is pretty anal about things.
>>19390876basically yes, although Sentinel's stuff rarely closes preorders immediately
>tfw I have the money for it but too financially responsible to do itI wish I was an impulsive retard.
>>19390847Where is the cockpit of R2 and where is the tronium engine since R2 is hollow? I always wondered about this.
>>19390765She almost got to have a date with Ingram, too.
>>19390906>Where is the cockpit of R2head>where is the tronium enginecrotch>since R2 is hollowit's just neatly folded
>>19390906I think both are on his dick.Isn't tronium like literally a grain of sand? The engine probably isn't massive.
So with all of this effort put into shilling the SRX, the SRX Team is definitely going to cameo in the next mainline or play a big role in the next OG aren't they.
>>19390932Well the next one may have the debut of Banpreios, if not just going ahead and doing Alpha 3 straight, so yeah, pretty big role
>>19390902I haven't bought a figure in like 5+ years so I can justify it that way
>>19390765>>19390910What could have been
>>19390932The thing that worries me about all this is that when Banpreios shows up in OG they'll turn Rai, Aya, and Mai into statless subpilots and glue them to the pilot seats so you can't use them in Fun Runs.
>>19391041I really don't see them leaving out the AR-Series at this point.
>>19391041Wasn't the Banpreios canonically supposed to transform but only didn't because it was a slap job in @? They can finally finish construction in OG and make it work right.
>>19391055Yeah, and we got the mythical Original Weapons DyGenGuard (even if it's a meme nobody uses without Tornado Blade) so the RXR-series might become real too. Even if not on Banpreios' debut, I expect them to fix the units up for the next game.
>>19391055In Alpha the SRX project was shelved after Alpha 1In OG they never stopped working on it for long
>>19391093Dygenguar got the extra weapons together with its normal moveset in 2ndOG and has them by default now in MD
>>19391095Why did they shelve it in @? Was it not as successful as in OG?
>>19391100Earth Federation being cunts and something about investigating Ingram and Viletta's involvement, the SRX team was put on house arrest for a whileIn OG Gilliam pulled some strings to avoid that
D really reminds me of AP in that you really should prioritize upgrading your weapons/energy over the other stats. It loves retreating bosses and your OG is easily the best support attacker you've got for a while. Beam Coats are also surprisingly useful so I guess Big O can tank decently against the V Gundam enemies.
>>19391107Big O, Forte Gigas, and FAZZ are some of the only units that can just facetank shit
How come Gilliam wasn't in Alpha? The guy literally just hops between SRW cycles/kalpa and seen a lot of shit
>>19391103Which was kind of weird seeing as they were still active in Alpha Gaiden. Out of universe it probably happened since they didn't know how to add the SRX team with the then new squad system. At least they came back, shame most of the other Alpha and AG OG's didn't.
>>19391107Special defences are king in D. Support defence chains, double image everywhere, Fire Bomber buffed stats to dodge. You might want to boost the mobility of some of your top tier reals but yeah, weapons are king.
>>19391097Yeah but no dual wield General Sword and Zankantou attack so we're not there yet.
>>19391055The shoulders are clearly tank treads from the AR-2 but other than that the big fucking wings slapped on the back cover up where the R-1's legs would be sticking out if the transformation is similar to the SRX
>4 Deployment Slots for Valzacard>4 Deployments slots for BanpreiosMAKE IT STOP
>>19391113He doesn't have control over where he hops doesn't he? I think he prefers taking a backseat when in other worlds too since in SRW 4, he only joins you in one route for a short time.
Where the fuck does SRX's helmet come from anyway?
>>19391247It looks way bulkier than the SRX, I'm sure they can find places for the legs.>>19391252It'll deploy transformed in a single slot but you can detransform as desired.
>>19391252Valz is only 2 since the other parts are ships
>>19391254There are too any factors.
>>19391259it's folded up as part of R-1's shieldThat's also where it gets the sword hilt
>>19391259Look at R-1's shield?
>>19391267I've heard that before but I really don't understand how it works.
>>19391259It's part of the R-1's shield along with the handle for the sword. This forms the nose of the R-Wing. I think the R-1 uses it in Alpha.
>>19391274It has the shield in OG but there's no Shield Block/Counter Cut/Shoot Down in OG so you only see it when you defend.
>>19391276That scale seems off
>>19391288Nah, it's just missing the extra bits on the sides of the helmet.
>>19391296I dunno, the helmet part looks too small while the shield looks too big.
>>19391306You might just be used to the SD sprites
>>19390831>>19390838>>19390843>>19390847>>19390851>>19390859>>19390863Where are pages 6, 8, and 9?>>19391306Comparing >>19390851 and >>19390838 the hilt part definitely looks bigger on the shield than on the sword and has some other differences that make it look like they're actually different parts. I think the helmet may be the same, though.
I already preordered the SRX but I kind of want to have the R series separate from it as well
Cold Steel in SRW when?
>>19391380At first I thaught you meant Cold Steel the Hedge Heg.
Is there any high res images of Banpreios? Google Images is fucking useless
>>19391389Grey - BanagherBlue - SuzakuBlack - V villain guy, Ballgass from BXRed - CagalliPurple - Yazan, FMP meme dudeSilver - Elsine, cringe scientist from Z2Gold - The EdelThe whole cast's already in SRW too
>>19391389Id honestly be down for Robotnik and all his robots in an SRW.As for the Kiseki franchise, is it still meant to be a psudo secret that its actually a mecha series?
>>19391403I think the secret's been out ever since they had that giant robot war eight years ago
>TFW Mai asks Lat in a pretty suggestive way to watch anime together with her and Ryusei and Lat accepts without a second thought
>>19391455OGG translation when?
>>19391252Valzacard might just be one unitWithout Arm Arcus it basically has no attacks at all
>>19391485If they follow W's plot to the letter it'll basically be held together with spit and a prayer again and probably unable to decombine without horribly breaking something.But if they handle it differently, or for future games where I doubt they'll start you off with Valz, it might combine normally.
>>19391485They're obviously gonna add more attacks to Valzacard, a punch attack like Valguardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxuQ-HEAhj0
>Getting excited over toysHow sad!
>>19391113Alpha Gaiden had Gespensts in. He must have briefly stopped by that timeline even though we never saw him.>>19391403It's been becoming more and more /m/ with every game, starting all the way back at FC's final boss.>>19391468I would unironically drag myself though OG Gaiden again when that happens. (And there's no reason for it not to happen, if not even already be in the works, because same engine as OGs and all that)
Valzacard must have a punch attack in the next OG and set to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlIZhtnJzks
>>19391380Cold Steel was an X-O event type seriesMaybe it'll be a headliner for X-O 2
Proton Cannon - Determination - Pride and Memory in the HeartPunch Attack - Break ThroughArcus Blade - Sail on FutureEXA NOVA SHOOT OVER - Just Once ChanceSTRONKEST FAMILY
>>19391402>Gold - The EdelRufus is actually Ramsus from Xenogears but written with Falcom's anime vocabulary.
>>19391546Wonder if we'll get to see Valz's combination sequence animated since they seem to love throwing those into attack animations now
>>19391557https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gNsLJtvYy4Obviously need to have a gattai sequence
OG is trash.Mainline is best.
>>19390910The date was a formality, he was already plowing her behind the scenes.
>>19391503I sure hope so, Valguard's finisher is my favorite out of its animations.
>>19391167Yeah, I didn't know about that when I played the first time around so D was really hard.
>>19390866>those girly stances
>>19391684Valzacard gets a new move where it makes one of its triangles and then bashes your head in with it
>>19391485I'm pretty sure Aria is actually inside Valzacard and Arm Arcus is just hanging around on remote control mode
>>19390831I wonder why SRX couldn't use R-3's weapons at all but Banpreios can.
>>19391849It can, they're just not available as weapons in the games because in the same way that Combattler can have five attacks max if it returns. SRX uses the same full burst move as Banpreios in the manga.
>>19391849It can use the Telekinesis Missiles in Shin and Alpha, just not in OGs
Write a way for him to appear in OG again.
>>19391546Valhawk is fairly big for the real style look
>>19391988He trips over into a Crossgate
>>19391988His sages prophesize a massive scale alien invasion on earth that could endanger his race later so he just crossgate hops with his army for support.
>>19390831But where's the R-Gun Powered toyHow will SRX be complete without its gun
>>19392036It survived OG1 just fine without it.
>>19392009A few of the DS OGs have strange sizes
Granteed Dracodeus was 30m in J(real robot manlet), 64.5m in OG
>>19391455>they don't know yet
>>19392053Yeah like Rushbird being considered size M despite being 42m tall.
>>19392125At least that's consistent with Godannar, which is also in the 40 meter range
>>19392125Granteed was M in J as well
>>19392125Fafners in UX were at the same height and size M as well. Seems pretty consistent, I think they don't typically start handing out size L until you hit 50m
>>19391503The damage to Valguard before the combination disabled most of the weapons, chances are there will be time to fix the damage so the Valzacard will have more to work with.
>>19392105>uwaaa~, sticky!What did she mean by this?
Anyone just like SRPGs? It’s what got me into SRW. I just tried Triangle Strategy, and man, it is refreshing to get my shit kicked in for charging in unlike SRW where I get rewarded for doing that.
Oh man, I didn't know the Armorlion they hand you in OGs is a completely separate unit from the Lion F. It also looks like an unstoppable melee monster so I'm wondering who I should stuck in it. Ryoto comes with Gunfight so it seems like a waste, and there aren't that many dodgy melee pilots. Maybe Ingram in Armorlion and I'll move Bullet to the empty Wildschwein?
>>19392298You don't need to be dodgy to use the Armorlion. Toss whoever in there and they'll do fine
>>19392208she is touching Ryusei's hotglued Valsione figure
>>19392303Yeah I checked the stats properly and it has 110 mobility/1.8k armor so it's not that dodgy but kind of a beast regardless. I think I'll stick with Ingram in it for now.
>>19392298Put Katina in it.
>Quess and Gyunei's Dogas are stronger units than Wing Zero in DWhat a game.
Damn, I love the SRX way more now after seeing these figures.>18k yen>20k yen>27k yenHoly SHIT
>>19392363The Armorlion is one of those rare units that tends to do amazing no matter who you put in it. Obviously it tends towards melee, but a ranged-focused pilot is a decent choice as well since Square Cluster is one of the best ALL attacks in the game. Heck, you could even put someone like Garnet or Radha in there so you don't have to babysit them as much.
>>19392510Welcome to being a hobbyist
>>19392539Well those ARE particularly expensive figures.
>>19392538It is fugly though, I'd rather piling the strongest weapons and parts on the gespents
Best Lion coming through.
>>19391111Daltanius can on some enemies, as he has most of the available special defense types, but he's relegated to sniping duties and finishing moves against bosses. If you get his secret moves he's good at both those things though.>>19391505>>Getting excited over toys>How sad!Dunno what board you thought you were on, anon, but this is /m/. You might want to go to whatever board you thought you were on.
>>19392576Armorlion is anything but fugly, she's a beautiful looking machine.
>>19392576Function over form, anon. >>19392584That's not Altairlion.
>>19392600Imagine min-maxing in a piss easy game like ogsI'm getting by just fine even though I've been benching Ryusei, Irm, Masaki and Lune from the start
>>19392600Altairlion is pretty good too, but it gets ruined by the Hyperlion.
>>19392612I really like Hyperlion, but it does look absolutely cartoonish from the rear. It would also be a lot better if it retained its own flight mode, being a TD machine and all. I can only hope that Altairlion's not-my-virgin-anus pose in it is to somehow facilitate docking with the various crew and science modules it's supposed to have at some point.>>19392610Have fun missing all that potential damage output against damage sponges lategame, like Rivale and Septuagint.
>>19392538It's a pretty exciting new addition to OG1, and bridges the gap between your Gespenst squad and actual big dick units really nicely. It's kinda interesting that it's Ryoto's canon unit, an obvious precursor to the Boxer as a self-designed kung fu mech made by bolting basically the Alteisen and half a Guarlion onto the Lion, but the game itself keeps pilot stats mostly as they were in GBA OG1 so Ryoto's still made for being really shooty.OG2 shifts a bunch of pilots towards melee combat but by then you're not playing as a ragtag team trying to fit everyone in three good units and twelve random pieces of crap they found lying around so the random mech swapping isn't as prevalent: Everyone basically already starts in their best unit.
>>19392644While true, it's nice that the Armorlion is good enough that it can retain its utility, even when Ryoto is forcibly downgraded to it in 2ndOG. The same can't be said for people like poor Rio. Also it's kind of odd that it doesn't actually replace the Lion F you get in the Ryusei route, even though it logically should. It's not like you're ever going to use that thing again.
>>19392636>but it does look absolutely cartoonish from the rear
>>19392661The Lion F comes with 2 or 3 upgrade bars in everything so it's actually got the same "starting" stats as Leona's Guarlion that you get laterOnly difference without further investment in either is if you want the built-in Railgun or Sonic Break
>>19392667So that's what anon meant by "not-my-virgin-anus" pose.
>>19392667I still say Filio made this combination as a joke before making the finalized design, but he died before he could complete it.
>>19392682The Railgun is decently powerful if you invest in it, but the Lion really doesn't have anything else going for it aside from being relatively dodgy. The Lion's problem is that it occupies a popular niche of "quick ranged-focused unit you pile guns on", which a bunch of units you get almost immediately afterwards do better, like the Mark II and Valsione. Heck, even the 009 you get almost ten stages prior is superior in that regard.
Atreem was a mistake
>>19392661>>19392682Lion F also has an innate S in Air and is one of your very few fliers that can use swappable weapons from the sky. It's pretty alright purely as something you jam a fully upgraded shotgun onto, though you probably want to move on to the Huckebeins by the time you move into space.
>>19392713The Rex is actually pretty cool other than the fucking bunny ears.
>>19392720What, you got something against Cutman?
>>19392720The bunny ears are the only good part of it
>>19392731The only good Cutman is KUNG KUNG KUNGFU CUTMAN
Gotta love that Cyflash
Okay but why did he change clothes?
>>19392262They're enjoyable on occasion
>>19392944He didn't. Ingram's "evil" costume is literally just his pilot suit. If you bothered to watch his battle animations while you have him, he wears it in all his cutins.
>>19392956I guess I was just comparing it to this screenshot I took earlier in the map when he was still deployed. This is within the same scene.
>>19392960That's just the gap between dialogue portrait and cutin that OG has sometimes
>>19392961The only reason I even noticed it was because these two portraits were in the same conversation.
>>19392961>OGVirtually all the games do that to some extent since it saves on assets. The Dynamics are usually the only exception in the mainlaine games. Ingram just escapes it because he gets an entirely new set of portraits when he switches sides. Alpha is one of the few games to consistently make a distinction between pilots in the field and in intermission scenes, at least from a visual perspective.
>>19392967True, I just more strongly associate it with OG due to characters like Ibis and Kyosuke
>>19390727From where?Anyone know if play asia have it?
>>19390727>$620Pass, I’ll just get the HG Cybuster.
>>19392990HLJ, AmiAmi, any retailer that stocks Sentinel toys.
>>19392996When is that out? Is it already out? I'd like to get one of those. I have one of the old as fuck Kotobukiya Cybuster models, and wouldn't mind getting an HG instead.
>>19392996I really hope we get more OG HGs.I'd kill for a fucking Shurouga, Granveil or LiBrasta HGs.
>>19393005Supposed to come out in June.
>>19393005June I think
>>19393006Shurouga seems like an obvious one. You can just modify the Cybuster mold.>>19393007>>19393008Okay, that's a bit further than I was expecting, but not too far out.
>1st prize Tessa kissUUOOOOOOOOHHH
>>19393020I thought Shinn was revengesexual, why does he care?
>>19393030He got over that like four games agoHanging out with a team of people who aren't just soap opera characters helps
>>19393020and the winner iiiiiisssss>
>>19393030He mellowed out after going back to daddy Durendal and getting BTFO by all of ZEUTH.
>>19390871Tenjo Tenga Mutekiken is Ryusei's name for the ZO Sword.Tenjo Tenga Nendou Bakusaiken is the name of the finisher(Tenjo Tenga Muteki Giri being the name of the regular attack)
>>19393006I'd like some for the various DS OGs, though that's probably not too likely outside of the Valhawk
the last mission on AP is kinda fun to replay desujust gotta watch out for Lemon while you shoot other units down
>>19393112Maybe we'll get a a non-scale MG Valzacard if it does appear in OG3rd.
>>19390727>>19390732>RiobotWhat did they mean by this?
So is there any blog that actually updates with general mecha figure info instead of just gunpla?I'm not even sure there are any gunpla news blogs left.
>>19393133Rio is actually going to become the main SRW pilot in the next game.
>>19393147>SRX pilot*Although, by default...
>Play 2nd OG>Rio's been stuck in the dead weight gunner since the start of the game>Turns out they had a fucking Arblade Custom the entire time and never used it.I hate when they pull this shit.
>>19393164You also get the Ashscheshensaberritter relatively early too. I usually stick Ryoto in that and move her to the Armorlion.
How is OG even going to pretend that classic pilots are worth anything at all once the only new OGs to add are modern, dodgy as a real, tanky as a super, 1-8 range demigods exclusively?
>>19393164But that's Ing's unit for the entirety of EX
>>19393183I know, but at least having it earlier means Rio could have been useful.
>>19393180Because OG rebalances everyone when they make it over.
>>19393189Its always there, its just that the game moves Ing out of it once he moves to Ashe and leaves it there to rot the entire time.
>>19393193Anon, I'm not sure you understand. You get Rio at the start of the EX route, Ing shows up with the Arblade on Stage 13, the point I'm making is if the Arblade was available the entire time, why couldn't I use it before then?
>>19393210Because that’s how SRW works. They keep their upgrades in storage until they decide they actually need them.
>>19393210In-game, the unit wasn't ready for deployment until stage 13. This is brought up in pre-stage intermission. Gameplaywise, they wanted to make the Arblade's appearance a bit more exciting than just tossing it into the pile.
>>19393210usually the explanations are either "under maintenance" and\or "the upgrade is in another base!"
>>19390851>no effect parts for the T-LINK Sword movedisappointing
If they're selling prohibitively expensive SRW toys does that mean that Bamco isn't killing the series off yet
>>19393260bamco is a toy company now
>>19393260Or a last hurra to get as much cash as possible before putting the franchise on ice.
I find it odd that Rai doesn't start with this.
>>19393127I can only see Valzacard being a high price, premium figure like the SRX
>>19393271He's just an SP bank
>>19393309ThisIt was sort of fun playing OGs1 and having to actually use R-2 and R-3.
>>19393248Comes with R-Blade
>>19393180OG changes ranges and stats all the timeBase Granteed got nerfed hard in OG, Dracodeus is still strong but you get the J upgrades pretty late.
>>19393309In 2, sure, but I still find him useful on his own in 1. Especially if you're doing the Decombine > R-Formation x 2 > Recombine > Bakusaiken attack flow.
>>19393336If you have money to spare or just really like the SRX Team it's still worth slapping a little bit of defenses and weapons on the R-2 for an extra ALL every turn
>>19393340That's basically what I'm doing. I've been maximizing the amount of kills every Cyflash gets with luck on to make sure I get primo cash for upgrades, and the R2 Powered is getting some love currently.
>>19393309>>19393336OG1, OG2 and 2nd OG all give you a decent period of time to use Rai as a combat pilot. OGG and MD are the ones where Rai spends the entire game as a SP Bank.
>>19393379>2nd OGOnly if you go Masaki route at the start.
>>19393379No real reason to use the SRX early in MD even on Calvina's route since you can't use half of its attacks until Ryusei gets some levels, so you still get to use Rai a bit there.Whether it's worth spending money on the R-2 when you're strapped for cash is another matter
>Uneven upgrade tiers across the boardI can't remember the last game that did this. Sazabi is actually a bit stronger than Nu individually due to upgrade tiers but if you're using the Z/ZZ/CCA era units then its pointless due to the combos between Geara/Jagd, Z/ZZ and the Nu variants.
>>19393462You're probably better off letting Ryusei/Mai run around in R-1/ART 1 until when you finally get enough deploy slots to comfortably deploy a R-2/R-3 twin. Mai can take over R-Gun when that happens or you can let her stay in ART-1 as the SRX partner while Viletta does R-Gun duty.
>>19393464That's why you either play the game in "Weakness is Strength" mode or just use the Nuruge patch.
>>19393479>Not embracing all of the jank
>>19393464If D just had a combo between Hi-Nu and Nightingale and Alpha Aziel as an upgrade for Quess it'd be the perfect CCA package
>>19393512Its weird that they didn't include Quess' final mech in D when it was in A and R.
I just want Quattro to return bros
>>19393525He'll be the one additional returning character when we get post-plot Zeta again in the next game. Maybe he'll even get a chance to finally meet that Char guy.
AHHH NOT THIS STAGE AAA SAVE ME KIRA
>>19393546>Can't even handle a few mooks aloneHe truly needs Jesus in his life.
>>19393525No thanks, I prefer getting the Sazabi and Penisgale every game, even if late. You already get Hyaku Shiki without Quattro anyway.
>>19393517Is it still in the game data?
Why is it that only Rayearth can start the combo attacks anyway? Were they worried the other two might actually be good instead of the middle to low tier they are?
>>19393568Probably not or else someone would have hacked it in already.
>>19393596Probably because of the new combo attack system where if you only deploy one of the units it can use a combo attack and they didn't want the other two girls to be able to do that for some reason
>>19393596They wanted to show off the new combo system were you don’t need to deploy everyone. What better way to do it then making the one who uses the combos the only good unit.
well, while I was leveling up some pilots, I managed to beat lemon on the final stage. One stage too late, but at least I can say I did it.
>>19393622>>19393621At least my girl Umi has an attack that's post move that isn't the weakest attack the unit has eventually.Poor Fuu.
>>19393622>making the one who uses the combos the only good unit.? Hikaru is not Fuu.
I know that most people recommend taking the Angel Halo route for V2AB, but what about the rewards from the Helios Empire route? Daltanious isn't half bad in D thanks to being a multipilot super that has sword and shield for special defense. The thing also falls off pretty hard if you don't get those moves compared to V2 who can still suffice by equipping the Buster parts.
>>19393464>The combosAlmost all of those combos are complete dogshit, though.Like, to give an example. The Double Funnel combos all start at 3400. Almost all the units with one, however, have an attack that is at worst only slightly weaker (Nu, for example, has a 3100 finisher) but costs a lot less (30 EN on one unit vs 45 on two), while at best they're like Hi Nu and the combo is literally only 100 stronger for the same increase in cost. This makes it basically only viable for the extremely weak Dogas and MP Nu to use them, but even then it's literally just that their finisher sucks (and still is arguably better mind).Similarly, ZZ gets a bit of a boost out of the combo, but FA ZZ gets a substantively lesser boost out of it, and for Zeta it's literally weaker than Waverider Crash, making it only useful early on.And like, if you say "Oh, well Nightengale is worse for not having one", yeah, I guess so, it only has a Funnel that's exactly as strong as all the combos and costs less. Significantly worse, I guess.>>19393464Sazabi is stronger than Nu at base. Not by much, but slightly.>>19393686Helios gets God Marg too, IIRC, and God Marg is a slightly-less-good God Mars in a game where God Mars is already good.And their combo is also super hyper ultra fucking busted. Like 1000 stronger than their finishers or some shit.
>>19393726Good is putting it lightly God Mars is probably one of the best Supers in D
>>19393733Yeah. Also Double Final God Mars is stronger than FDS, by the way.Also, in terms of combos - as cool as they look, both of the Shin Getter/Shin Dragon combos suck a chode. Double Getter Beam is weaker than both of their solo finishers and costs more than Stoner Sunshine (ties Shin Shine Spark admittedly), and Final Getter Tomahawk is tied with Shin Shine Spark in power and only very slightly stronger than Stoner Sunshine... and also costs more than both. Never use either of these combos.
>>19393596Umi and Fuu are busted in other ways. Frankly T is insultingly easy as is and being able to spam one of the most powerful moves in the game would not help matters.
>>19393760Umi is worth fielding for YAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGaIUOvFuREDude Free Finisher Lmao
>>19393726Double Funnel is the strongest thing you have access to for most of the Space Route, which makes it useful for dealing with the retreating bosses although you're generally better off using their individual funnels.In the case of Zeta/ZZ, since Double Launcher is 3600/120 net EN. ZZ's default finisher is 3100 for 100 EN while FA ZZ's finisher is a single shot attack if memory serves me correct. WRC ties the combo attack at 3600 and is slightly more expensive at 70 EN, Kamille also prefers using it since it runs off his stronger damage stat (the difference is slight but Kamille is still range oriented), not withstanding the fact that you can't even use WRC until you get him to NT 5. I'll have to disagree with you on the Z/ZZ combo being bad. The funnel combos are situational at best since they're only really useful for retreating bosses and the SR combos are generally pretty inefficient aside from stuff like Double Final Godmars.
>>19393781How powerful is it compared to other finishers?
>>19393796Only half a notch above stuff like the Gundam MK 2, but it doesn't matter with T's power scaling being as absurdly inflated as it is. If you want to destroy Dima with Lantis, he can't stop you
>>19393794>Brawler R-2Fuck yes
I want a D remake.
>>19393784>Funnel UnitsNu: 3100 8 BarsNu HWS: 3100 8 BarsHi Nu: 3300 9 BarsMP Nu: 3000 9 BarsSazabi: 3200 8 BarsNightingale: 3400 9 BarsJagd Doga: 3000 9 BarsAll funnel moves cost 30 EN and the combos are all 3400 45 EN across the board.>Non FunnelZeta: 3600 9 BarsZZ: 3100 9 BarsFAZZ: 3500 9 BarsV2/V2A: 3400 8 BarsV2B/V2AB: 3600 8 BarsThat's pretty much all of the relevant UC units in terms of solo finishers. Z is the strongest one, V2AB vs FAZZ might be about even or slightly in one's favor depending upgrade tiers (they're all on the same tier), with everyone else falling in accordingly, starting with Nightingale, then either V2/V2A and Hi Nu and so forth.Combos make it easy since its Z/ZZ > V2AB > Nightingale/9 Upgrade Funnel suits > Nu > Sazabi.
>>19393828Can't wait for everyone's final teams to look something likeShin Getter 1Shin DragonBasaraMyleneRaySome combination of UC Gundam unitsSome combination of random supers, likely Godmars, Godmarg, Daltanious and Big OThen the original (almost entirely going to be Forte Gigas)
>>19393847>Not using Max and Milia
>>19393847You're not gonna use Gamlin?
>>19393847Sounds like a pretty based final team to me.
>>19393847>No Garlandnice joke
I don't want a D remake.
>>19393850>>19393852Max, Milia and Shogo are also going to be the other common picks. If you don't take the Helios Empire split then Daltanious gets benched and you won't have Godmarg either so the Macross guys get used.>>19393860Garland is a great pick but I can see a lot of people benching Shogo because he's not strong enough or whatever. He's a good guy to dump your Armor Breaker since Garland has a lot of slots.
>>19393862Wouldn't happen anyway. Even if they already got some assets ready for like half the cast, doing Wing TV and Victory nowadays seems verboten.
>>19393847Why would you use supers in D
>>19393908Because you like them?
>>19393911I tried using the units I liked in AP and got obliterated, and I hear D is even harder
>>19393908Because contrary to popular belief, some of them are actually really good units. For example Shin Getter 2 and Shin Liger having two different bunshin type skills making them impossible to kill once they get to 130 Will. The only ones that are "bad" are the Mazingers. Big O's on the weak side in the long run but Dorothy has Exhaust, Confuse so she has some utility.
The next SRW will only feature New Getter Robo, Shin Mazinger, and Mobile Suit Gundam The Origin
>>19393917No, AP is way harder than D
>AI forces me to take the nadesico and ra cailum away due to the damage they took, leaving the aestivalis units vulnerable>I still wonwew ladAngelg got the last shot
I could actually see The Origin pairing really well with IBO, with the 0079 stuff being part of the "primitive" new tech.
>>19393920Dorothy is always greatI think her Exhaust is one of the cheapest in the Z series as well
>>19393936And the IBO cast would have an excuse to initially side with Zeon so you get both the OVA and manga plots
>>19393920Minor nitpick but Shin Liger only has the Getter Vision equivalent. No Open Get on that thing. That said Poseidon has comically huge range and HP so it's still effectively immortal.Daltanious isn't awful due to its number of pilots but doesn't do anything special and D stages can be a bit of a grind so it's generally better not to rely too much on SP. Godmars has an absolutely gigantic nuke especially if you get Marg but has basically no defensive utility so it can be tricky. Big O is more of a Dorothy carrier than anything and walks REALLY slow. Mazingers are genuinely not worth the effort.
Mazinger always seemed to be the worst super in games that don’t have Kaiser OVA and before Shin.
>>19391485>>19391502>>19391546>>19391557I can't help but think they'll split W over 2 games if only because OG never does in-game time skips. Not a lot of time has really passed between OG1 and MD.
>>19394123The W timeskip is only a few months
>>19394116Toeizinger was pretty busted in Z1 thanks to Mazinpower + FDS. Yeah, Big O and Gravion are probably better overall, but the Dynamics were damn strong
>>19394123There’ll be two prologue stages that cover pre timeskip. Timeskip will be used for majority of the game and Valguard now only appears in a combination attack.
>>19394109If you get the extra attacks, Daltanious's damage output becomes pretty respectable since Flame Attack - Cross Slash is basically another Stoner Sunshine and its no slouch defensively thanks to having parry and a shield. Its not as defensively cheesy as Shin 2, but Daltanious is definitely one of the more durable units when you account for Try Again jacking up everyone's stats. Additionally, 3 spirit pools is never bad and D has My Friends if you need SP back, not a lot of it but there is that.>>19394116Z's solo finisher isn't half bad for D's standards. 3700 and +50% crit rate. Too bad about being single shot.
>>19394123Not much happens in W before the timeskipThe middle of OG1 had the longest timeskip so far in the series also, so it's not always just between gamesAnd then there's always La Gias/Crossgate time shenanigans if they really want
>>19394116Not when Mazinpower exists
>>19394116It’s pretty good in Impact but only because it has a shitload of combos
>>19394123>OG never does in-game time skips>OG1 skipped like 6 months between the end of the DC War and the Balmar War>>19394116Mazinpower exists in D, so the worst MC super is probably Grendizer. Their problem is that D is a special defense game, so if you don't have at least two of sword/shield/gun/bunshin/barrier you're going to have a hard time with mooks unless you have a lot of HP which they don't.
>>19394116Mazinpower is what turns the Mazingers into viable units most of the time. Even K with its subpar Mazinger Z treatment still made it a decent choice since it was first game that also made it a defensive buff
>>19394116If Great's in then Z has to be weaker than it, so it makes sense. Plus they're both single seater, no gimmick supers.If anything the war between which of them is the garbage shitter is almost poetic much like real life Getter Robo is better 90% of the time anyway.
>>19394265>If Great's in then Z has to be weaker than it,They pretty much always have combo attacks with each other as their strongest moves.>no gimmickExcept when Mazinpower exists.>Getter Robo is better 90% of the time anywayDunno man, before Ryouma started getting that crazy ace bonus in the recent games, I never thought Getter was able to do exceptional amounts of damage (itself kind of offset by Kouji getting Mazinger ZERO/Mazinkaiser or even just being able to snipe with Photon Power Beam). Of course Getter is certainly better in broad sense, but damage is generally what counts most
so should I be a irresponsible fuck and preorder that SRX figure?
>>19393784The Zeta/ZZ combo is definitely the best of the Gundam combos, I'll grant, but it gets worse as the game goes on, which was my point.>>19393831Also, the Qubeley has 3000 to start with, but I THINK ends up with 10 bars? It's not really relevant since 90% of players won't get Qubeley until NG+, where you have 15 upgrade mode (or NG++, where you have 20 upgrade mode), but it is there.I'm not sure why its bases are so bad though. Even its stats are mediocre.>>19393866>a lot of people benching Shogo because he's not strong enough or whatever.Proto Garland's finisher is tied with Forte Gigas's at max upgrades on NG, because he gets a shitload of power from upgrades. You'll only not see him if the player is doing an NUR.>>19394109>That said Poseidon has comically huge range and HP so it's still effectively immortal.Shin Liger also has a good 3-8 missile, but only 4 shots does hurt. Useful as a turn 1 enemy phase weapon though.>but has basically no defensive utilityIt has a sword, and its mobility isn't godawful because the pilot's an incredibly powerful psychic and that bolsters it. It only needs a minimum of Basara singing before it becomes pretty good at dodging.>>19394167Problem is that two of those three combos suck. Only Double Burning Fire is good... if you field Great to begin with and not MP Great.>>19394181Grendizer is almost always worse than Z. It may come with good Space ranks, but it also comes with Duke locked to it, and Duke is almost universally godawful as a pilot. Grendizer also for some reason always has shit stats compared even to the Mazingers - this is a consistent thing, too.
>>19394265Z was better than Great in T
>>19394308I've got the Sentinel Dancouga set from a few years ago. The pant chipped off in places I barely ever touched, the connection on the screaming head snapped the very first time I pulled the thing out of the joint to swap it, and one of the fingers came off before long as well. Overall it wasn't worth the ~$500 I paid for it. With all the model kits coming out recently that are like 10x cheaper than other options, I've decided I'm done buying diecast stuff. And that's what you'd be paying for with the SRX. The diecast. I can't name a single way in which diecast has improved my experience with robot toys, but some people seem to be into it for whatever reason.
>>19394332thiswhile the new srx toy seems cool as fuck with all the geometry and parts swapping going on you can bet it will be a super delicate piece of shit prone to easily break
>>19394320It's "worse" in so far as the damage gain relative to Zeta/ZZ's 2nd best attacks isn't as large as before but its still their most efficient boss killing move overall. WRC ties but is more expensive and runs off the wrong stat, ZZ's next best move is either too expensive or only good for one shot forcing resupplies/renews because Basara has dibs on the Extra Large Magazines (and even then if I had extras I'd probably give Bright over Full Armor ZZ since Ra Kailum's nukes are very strong for something you get so early).
>>19394323Infinity and classic aren't exactly the same thing, but specifically Kouji is now the protagonist and Tetsuya the secondary of the same property rather then then being from two technically different shows.Honestly Great's luckily it got to be in the game at all really given its showing in the movie.
>>19394320>Duke is almost universally godawful as a pilot. Grendizer also for some reason always has shit stats compared even to the MazingersIs there a canon reason for this? Like in canon is Duke a shit pilot in a shit mech?
>>19394347Sometimes its because Duke has A Space while the other Mazingers are awful in space, others its because he gets Soul while the other two are stuck with Valor (except most of the time Mazinpower + Valor = Soul so that's irrelevant) but I think the biggest culprit would be Duke's unpopularity compared to the other two. Z1 being the first game to give Grendizer a Mazinpower equivalent actually did a lot for him up to a point.
Wikia Anon here, if anyone is feeling nostalgic for the old Gurren Lagann, Eureka Seven, and Knightmare Frame pages from Wikipedia back in the day I used Archive.org to paste then on the wikia. Also there are now pages for Guy Slugger and M3: The Dark Metal.
>>19394347I still haven't watched Grendizer (does it even have non-crabstick/ARR subs?) but according to a friend that has, it has shockingly little of Grendizer's robot form, which might be part of it I guess.I only know of his performance in the two crossover movies he was in personally, and he did awfully in both, so...
>>19393505I probably love D more than anyone else here, but it's such a fucking mess, and if I can get around that somehow, I will.
>>19394355>but I think the biggest culprit would be Duke's unpopularity compared to the other twoThis is it. If they really wanted him to be good we'd have Grendkaiser by now.
>>19394304Before VXT gave us Ryoma and his giga-roided Attacker Ace bonus Getter's power was often more loaded into Getter-2 diving deep into enemy territory and drilling everyone for super cheap before unloading on the boss with FDS. These days there's no Open Get so while G1's damage has gone up a lot, G2 isn't nearly as invincible.
>>19394368Z2 was the one that started the Ryouma is the only Getter worth using trend. Before it was definitely Getter 2 for mooks and Getter 1 exists to hit a boss really hard.
>>193943682 is such garbage without any of the special defense stuff it had and now that 1 can perform at all ranges effectively I'm almost surprised it took until shin getter dragon to finally just have them say fuck it and make the other two attacks.
>>19394368The great irony is that Z3/V/T Getter 2 and 3 are actually really good, 2's still a dodge tank and can be a terror to a lot of enemies and 3 is essentially rendered all-terrain outside of air (and it's not totally helpless there anymore) and is I believe the best tank in these games (if not, it's close).But nobody gives a shit because Ryoma hits like a fucking nuke.
>>19394116I don't know, I think it depends on the game. Mazinger Z is pretty fucking strong in Z1I wouldn't bother with it in SRW K, it's shit, and it's defense is awful.
>>19394367Wasn't there a manga or something with an upgraded Grendizer?
>>19394373Well that’s also because SDG can’t transform
What is even special about the astragant?Also, why has nobody compiled a canon powerlevel tier list for og?
>>19394389Giga, no idea how the plot goes though, but I think it's an alternative take on Grendizer altogether.
>>19394375>Mazinger in K is shitIts not that good early on but once you get Mazinpower on the 2nd route split, it gets a huge buff overall between terrain rank increases, a new finisher and a really powerful variant of Mazinpower.
>Want to use Godmars (OVA) for once>This means that I'm more or less forced to train up the Mazingers since I need to use them for the two Godmars route splits.
I bet Shana Mia smells nice.
>>19394446What do princesses usually smell like?
>>19394446She probably smells like the inside of a freezer after spending a couple hundred years as a popsicle
>>19394373Shin Getter Dragon not transforming is entirely a function of canon. It just makes Getter 2/3 parts as needed. Shin Dragon not transforming is more of a balance decision in that all 3 forms basically play the same (like battleships).>>19394374Yeah, but enemy turn spirits make all multi-seat supers invincible anyway and you're not going to purposely feed all three forms 70 kills by mid-game to activate their Aces. Should probably make all 3 Getter pilots share kills if they want it to work.>>19394413K/L are kinda goofy in that every mech with a will activated cinematic buff become unstoppable because those things buff every single thing to the moon.
>>19394469so... it smells like assorted shit from the jurassic era? that's how my mother's unwashed freezer smells like.
>>19394489well she is from before the jurassic era
>>19394454Shine probably smells like broccoli or curry.
>>19394454She probably wears a lot of perfume
So are Excellen's parents in the normal universe mad scientists or is the ability to bring their daughter back from the dead strictly a shadow mirror thing?
>>19394535Excellen Prime's only family is her dad, she says as much in early OG2. We don't know anything else about her family besides that.
I wish they gave this thing a different paint job so I don't get it confused with all the shit MP's
>>19394546>2021>never been an SRW with customizable unit colors
>>19394609Someday we'll get Armored Core into an SRW...
>>19394475>Yeah, but enemy turn spirits make all multi-seat supers invincible anyway and you're not going to purposely feed all three forms 70 kills by mid-game to activate their Aces. Should probably make all 3 Getter pilots share kills if they want it to work.I mean... I did, in T. With the "any pilot can get 2 kills each mission, even if they were fielded last time" system it's not even really too hard. And while it is next to impossible to do in V due to how late you get Hayato and Benkei, I still got them there by the endgame.But that won't matter as long as Ryoma gets fucking Attacker that stacks with Attacker as an ace. He needs to lose that goddamn shit already. Or, if you're going to seriously keep doing it, at least be kind enough to give Hayato and Benkei supporting aces that lower spirit costs or whatever - then people will be incentivized to use them early.>>193946094 let you customize the Huckebein or Grungust somewhat.
I’d like to see more maps you can interact with. Mines, switches, things that give you power, things that take your power. Whatever happened to that
>>19394396Because it would make as much sense as a DC/Marvel power level tier list
>>19394535>>19394541Probably lost his mind when he lost his last family member
>>19394669I want more MAP attacksFor allies and enemiesStuff like how V-MAX worked in OE where you dash in a line through a bunch of enemies and it moves you the extra distance too
>>19394679I would settle for MAP attacks that aren't an abbreviated version of some other attack at this point
>>19394609>>never been an SRW with customizable unit colors4
>>19393546get good https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyaU6eWzn2ETbGZnbCn9BBHJu8Qn1D_0-
>>19394346Yes but Seabook and Char both got MC spotlight in T.Despite Orgin and F91 not being in the game.
>>19394707>Seabookgot Tobia's leftovers, nothing more than usual.>Char ... Despite Origin not being in the game.I think there was something with Char's name featured in T, though.
>>19394541Man, i want to see Mr Browning meets Kyosuke
>>19394713Seabook did more in V and T than X.Char isn't in every game with CCA such as V.
>>19394541>tfw Excellen's Dad is a scientist and would help Marion in creating new Alt and Weiss upgrades
>>19394707Char is a villain for the legitimate majority of the game and doesn't not even in the story for most of that.Pretty sure Seabook is the better pilot of the two pound for pound as well.
>>19394718Seabook did nothing in all three games. Your point doesn' t even make Sense for Char since he's arguably better than Amuro due to MAP funnels even those he's absolutely a secondary character as far as his role in the game goes.
Think we're gonna keep getting old OG mechs back in new games?The SRX team would be next right?
>>19394724I feel like I didn't make my point across.My Point is Tetsuya despite being a secondary character there is no reason why he shouldn't have gotten MC treatment in T.But really T has heaps of problems and this is is really small and minor.>Seabook did nothing in all three gamesYes you are right Seabook didn't get any special treatment in X despite being a MC in that game and a Secondary character in V and T.>Char since he's arguably better than AmuroYes Char a secondary character was better than Amuro the MC
>>19394746Okay, but it doesn't matter how relevant they are in the super robot wars they're in, or Bright would be the God Emperor of SRW judging by number of lines across all appearances.The point is whether they're the MC of their SHOW. Kouji is most certainly the MC of infinity and Tobia is the MC of Crossbone.
>>19394758idk that's never really stopped them beforeThere's countless examples of non-MCs being busted too
>>19394758Char is the MC of Origin Seabook is the MC of F91Tetsuya is the MC of Great MazingerSure those series were not used in T.But does that really matter?
>>19394746>My Point is Tetsuya despite being a secondary character there is no reason why he shouldn't have gotten MC treatment in T.Look I haven't watched Infinity, but it sounds like he got more than he deserved based on what I've heard. Great Mazinger has all its usual weapons, Double Burning Fire and Mazinpower. Idk what else you were wanting anon. Great may not have Z's ultra late game oneshot finisher that it can only use for like two stages anyway, but it's still gonna outclass basically every UC Gundam and Dunbine unit in the game. It's better than Tryder, the Tyranado Rex, the Sizzler. They even brought back pilot swapping for the Toei units so you can go ahead and put Tetsuya in Mazinger Z if you feel like he got short changed in spite of all of the above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBfXW7jBUQWhy couldn't they done this for Hi Nu's final attack in T?
>>19394707Char isn't the MC but he is the final boss of CCA and those tend to get special treatment as well. That said while some special care is taken to make sure main characters aren't UNUSABLE there's no rule that says they have to be the best units from their own series.Kallen and Suzaku mog Lelouch in their Z appearances, Heero is often middle of the pack even among the Wing boys (and Wing Gundams are rarely super busted in the first place), and it's been five hundred years since we got the full OG Macross but Hikaru is like the third best pilot in his own show (after Max and Roy).
>>19394824And the Macross in any given appearance is usually better than most of the VFs anyways, as long as you can get it the will for its big attacks
>>19394824Lelouch and Heero have things other then raw stats that make them more useful then their contemporaries, namely Lelouch's huge buff and Wing Zero's MAP attacks (granted you can pilot swap but other then perhaps Zechs his stats are the best for the job). You're correct abount never-appearing-again-cross but SRW tends to respect in universe power levels for pilot stats, and it just generally happens that most mecha shows have the MC also be the strongest and best pilot.
Masaki or Ryune split for 2nd OG?
>>19394746Because in the movie Tetsuya got fucking mogged immediately. He actually has more attacks in the game than the movie, and you’re going to keep him around for Double Burning Fire anyway. If anyone got screwed it’s Komi for getting a third of his attacks combined into a single “fire everything”.
Lost my old harddrive that had a lot of the SRW OSTs downloaded (and some vocal tracks) and recovered all of them except some of the vocal tracks I had (Time to Come, the vocal theme for both the black hole and vanishing trooper huckebeins) etc. Looks like the mega folder I got them from before in the pastebin is all emptied out/gone.
>>19393805Anon his finisher is at least 1500 points stronger, thats well above half a notch, Lantis isn't weak by any stretch and with his modifier he's a competitor for probably the best non MC unit in the game
>>19393060Pretty sure the winner was that one FMP character that gets shot and dies
>>19394995> that one FMP character that gets shot and diesDoesn't he come back?
>>19394881I always put Zechs in the Wing Zero.Always did, always will.
OE's greatest mistake was not giving you a playable Epyon
>>19395119Epyon is rarely playable anyways.
>>19395302It's been a properly playable non-guest unit one time, and OE would have been a good time to use it since it gave you playable TV ZechsPlayable Tallgeese is also very cool though
>>19394881Lelouch's tactical orders are strong but at least in Z2-1/2 the Guren and Lancelot run over mobs that can get pretty irritating (fucking DAMONs). They're not so good in X where you have many more busted stat ball units and they're just worse Vilkiss, while Lelouch still has tactical orders, but there we go.Heero kinda randomly jumps all over the usefulness chart depending on appearances. If he has his post-movement single target Rolling Buster Rifle and both versions of the Buster Rifle MAP he can be really good, then there are times when he's just shitty Trowa and Duo really dominates the early game with his cheap finisher and double image (especially before you can invest money in making mechs good).
>>19395375I remember in Alpha 3 I only got to use his new Rolling Buster Rifle finisher maybe two or three times because he never had enough Will for it
>>19395375>Heero kinda randomly jumps all over the usefulness chart depending on appearances.Wasn't Wing Zero in AP unusually subpar?
>>19395442iirc it was on a shitty upgrade tier?
>>19395442Yeah, WZC was actually awful in AP. Its base stats are already not that spectacular: Twin Buster Rifle is basically a Funnel equivalent without the bonus range from Newtype and worse accuracy; and on top of that its weapons are on a weirdly low upgrade tier. IIRC fully upgraded Wing Zero's TBR has less power than Heavyarms' second best attack, which basically destroys it as a unit.
>>19395442Its only real use is in the Nadesico finale where you can make good use of its MAP
>>19394347>Like in canon is Duke a shit pilot in a shit mech?sometimes Grendizer is almost a ninja compared to the Mazingers, and over the series it gets damaged _ONE_ time by King Gori while the Mazinger end up half-trashed with some regularityDuke is also supposed to have superhuman reflex because ALIENofficial stat-wise, Grendy is shit underwater though, even compared to Mazinger Z>>19394400yeah, it's an alternate universe.I think the INFINITISM booklet\magazine story had some cool shit for at least the SpazerLikewise, they could easily add the Spazer from Giga as upgrade for Grendizeror, and this is IMHO the way to go, put Duke on Grendy, Maria on Spazer and have them as a combo unit.