I've almost finished S3 of Beast Wars and was wondering what to watch next. Are the Japanese G1 shows worth watching or should I just watch Beast Wars II/Neo and finally Beast Machines despite the awful reputation? Also general Transformers Thread for recs and discussions.
>>19123064I heard victory is legit great, head masters and super god masterforce are okay(headmasters does have a hilariously bad English dub that might be fun to watch) and zone is super short but I also heard was quite good
unironically Beast Machines
Beast Machines is pretty good. Most of the hate from it comes out of the hot blooded passion of youth.
>>19123956>Throws every good character development from the previous show out of the window.>Weird mech designs that don't go well when made into toys.>Toy sells are so bad Hasbro releases the Dinobots line with molds from the Neo show from Japan.>No humor like in BW; takes itself way too seriously.The previous show had a longer time on air and you could say making a show taking risks is commendable, but you have to be on denial to not recognize the many faults Beast Machines had.
>>19124065You listed not having BW's bad sense of humor as a negative though.
>>19123064>>19123956Beast Machines is good if you can completely ignore its connections to Beast Wars. The way most characters transition into it and are handled by that series often clashes with Beast Wars, so if you can't just look at it as its own thing you'll just be irritated. But if you can separate them it's not bad.
im interested in tf, which series do i watch if starscream is my favourite?
>>19123956Beast machines is okay as a stand alone show.It absolutely sucks donkey balls as a sequel to Beast wars.
>>19123064Animated, RID2015, Cyberverse
>>19125183Armada>>19124065>Throws every good character development from the previous show out of the window.https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Dan_didio
>>19123064I just finished BWII, I thought it was alright but it's the kind of show where you really have to care about the characters more so than the plot. It's pretty episodic early on but the latter batch of episodes are more plot focused.
>>19126659>didioNow I'm not surprised by any of this shit.
>>19127035BWII is a fun watch, and Lio Convoy is one of my favorite Convoy/Prime designs. Still need to get around to Neo sometime
>>19123064Holy shit, I'm currently binging it too.You know, before ROOSTERTEETH fucks it up with that show which will not be named.
>>19129600The show is named Kingdom and it has no connection whatsoever to the original Beast Wars show. It can't "fuck it up". Calm down.
>>19127035I liked it, but the weakest part was definitely the battles, many of the Japanese shows suffer in that area.
>>19130540Not even him but it took 5 seconds to google that it's going to be the 25th anniversary of Beast Wars, is the final show in Rooster Teeth's show trilogy, have a split toyline between G1 and BW as well as two new Predacons. He was being hyperbolic but you were being condescending when you had no reason to be.
>>19130565Japanese shows tend to suffer from several problems, among them:-Slaves to toy releases: Show will push a certain set of characters for few episodes, then just get rid of them, either for the whole show or until the finale.-Battles use tons of stock footage or cuts of a character shooting while standing still.-I hate to say this one, but they may suffer from inconsistent power levels, mostly due to new toy syndrome, but still. A good example is BWII, the Destron's all get upgrades near the end and they're way more powerful than the main cast at that point, but they still get their asses kicked evne when they're trying to win and not backstab eachother.-Decepticons suffer from an extreme case of backstab. This happened in G1 and BW, but almost the entire Destron cast will do this at one point or another in BWII and Neo. Still happens in RID to a lesser extent.This gets better in the Unicron trilogy, but just barely.
>>19130687You're telling me information that A) I already know, and B) was not relevant to the discussion. Kingdom is still not connected to the original Beast Wars show and still can't retroactively "fuck up" the original Beast Wars show.
>>19127035A bit hard to get through for some reason, think I'm a few episodes after the Mexicans showed up. The Preds MAY have started to get their upgraded forms, not sure
>>19131042If Megastorm got changed into a giant Godzilla sized monster, then yes, that's the start of the upgrade arc.
I only remember beast wars because of the powerpuff girls gag