>Schwarz Bruder>Bruder is the German word for brotherHow did anyone not see this twist coming from a mile away?
>SHINING GUNDAM>Pilot goes angry+crazy like Jack Nicholson in The Shining by Stanley KubrickHow did anyone not see this twist coming from a mile away?
>Name translated to "black brother">Isn't black
>>19032062>Dragon Gundam>Dragons breathe fire>Dragon Gundam's dragon arm breathes fire
>>19032076Holy shit, I never noticed this connection before. I learn something new about this show every day.
>>19032074WITH A NAME LIKE SCHWARZ BRUDER, I THOUGHT YOU'D BE A BROTHA
>>19032080Who's he talking to originally?
>Matador Gundam>The pilot is a matador but the Gundam is actually a BullWhat a twist!
>>19032062>American pilot gets the "Queen of Spades" mark.You can't make this shit up
>>19032062The fact that they showed him and Kyoji on screen or in situations where it would be impossible for them to be the same person generally was pretty good at throwing us off.
>>19034630>American pilot's Gundam looks reminiscent of the main villain Gundam
>>19032062Because not everyone understands German?
>>19034638Japanese people do, and English speakers should because German and English are basically the same language.
>>19034630>American pilot gets 4 girl friends Fair trade
>>19032062>How did anyone not see this twist coming from a mile away?By not speaking German?
>Neo Mexico Gundam Fighter>Its pilot is an illegal immigrant exploiting a a work permitCAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>19032062What I wonder is why Neo Germany's Gundam is a ninja and not something like a tank, a soldier, a small car or a Nether Gundam with custom mill blades to be extra "offensive". If a country deserved the weeaboo Gundam it should have been Neo Italy, with all the /m/ shows that were dubbed and aired there in the 80's.
>has this tattoo>never gets fucked by black menTalking about subverting your expectations.
>>19034571Jack Black, I think
>>19034820He's a ninja because he's a Japanese guy who knows ninjutsu who was pretending to be the German representative. That's all there is to it.
>>19034820Sweden got the weeb gundam though
>>19034838Schwarz Bruder had the same costume and Gundam before all that.
>>19032062>How did anyone not see this twist coming from a mile away?I did. My mom's german.
>>19035249and your dad's black
>>19035270Poor dutch people got completely spoiled back in 1977.
>>19032062I knew it was him when he first talked. I was just wondering who the fuck was the other Kyoji in the dark gundam.
>>19035278I kind of doubt the movie was immediately translated for Dutch audiences.
>>19032062Y'know what, considering how kanji/CJK characters work in terms of carrying meaning/readings, I'd not be surprised to find out Japan's naming conventions for fictional characters can be summed up as "oops, all Darth Vaders!"
>>19035278In Dutch "Dark" is "Donker", and while "father" is “Vader", it’s pronounced very, very differently; the word for “father” in Dutch, while spelled V-a-d-e-r, is pronounced in a way that roughly rhymes with English “father”. It’s not Vay-der, it’s Vaah-der.
>>19032062All I know is he had the coolest gundam in the series.
>>19035651The reality is Lucas chose "Vader" because it sounded somewhat sinister thanks to evoking "invader." He didn't have Anakin down as Darth Vader until the second draft of TESB's screenplay.
>>19036249He followed this pattern with all the Sith Lords he named, too. Darth Maul, Darth Sidious, Darth Icky, Darth Insanius. I always thought the name Palpatine reminded me of the word palpitation, and you have to admit palpitations are pretty scary.
>>19034647For me it's top-left
>>19034820According to Imagawa he's based on the hollywood perception of a ninja rather than an actual one.
>>19036424As for me, I am going to have to go with the delicious chocolate.
>>19036436I think she's supposed to be hispanic, not black
>>19037212Her name, Cath Ronary, sounds pretty American to me.
>>19032062>Neo Russia >Locks Gundam Fighters in a fucking gulagHuh.
>>19037227Google cannot find any geneaology of the name Ronary
The name was a clue for the audience but it was a coincidence in universe. There was a real Schwarz Bruder that died and Kyoji hijacked his corpse with DG cells to make a clone of himself to help Domon. The Gundam and costume and the German Ninjutsu skills are all his, Kyoji wasn't a ninja. Also he looked like Master Asia apparently.
>>19037383>The real Schwarz Bruder was actually Master Asia’s estranged brother in disguise the whole time
>>19037383>>19037387Do you think it's intentional that he looks like Master Asia?
I don't speak Nazi
>>19032062Some people are just irritatingly proud of their ignorance.
>>19034644> German and English are basically the same languageOnly mechanically (conjugation, tensing, etc). The lexicon however is wonky and german vowel enunciation is fucked up. Germans are better at understanding english than vice versa.
>Bolt Gundam>uses bolts in its constructionW...woah...
>>19032062That’s not the tier, the real twist is how he’s a robot
>>19037383> and the German Ninjutsu skills are all his, Kyoji wasn't a ninjaWas it? I was always under the assumption that Kyoji was actually secretly a martial artist all along.
>>19041091English also loses the ability to do infinite word compounding shenanigans, at least not without coming off incredibly stilted.
>>19032062imagine not speaking german in a world without the internet.
>>19042181I imagine they were the skills of the Neo Germany mobile fighter who got assimilated, whatever was left of him was made into the Kyoji DG cell clone. After all, none of the Neo Germany officials were suspicious and thought he had suddenly changed.
>>19042181It's specifically "German" ninjutsu, not regular ninjutsu. I would assume the German guy is the one who knows it. And it goes with the outfit and the Gundam, both of which he already had.
>>19042167>“The team threw a Hail Mary to George, saying the game would have more credibility if the apprentice had a ‘Darth’ title,” a Force Unleashed team member says. Lucas agreed that this situation made sense for Sith royalty, and offered up two Darth titles for the team to choose from. “He threw out ‘Darth Icky’ and ‘Darth Insanius.’ There was a pregnant pause in the room after that. People waiting for George to say ‘just kidding,’ but it never comes, and he just moved on to another point.”>Team members involved in the decision to not use these ridiculous Darth titles could not be reached for comment, but three LucasArts employees believe an excuse was made to push the Darth title to the sequel. By the time development on that title commenced, the names were long forgotten by Lucas and weren’t muttered by the development team again. Starkiller remained Starkiller in the games, but was also named Galen Marek in the greater Expanded Universe fiction.
>>19034647Same deal in Cyber Formula.
>>19042470Although reading this, it's clear that Lucas actually believed Darth Insanius to be a cool name and only suggested Darth Icky to offer the illusion of choice so they'd have to pick Insanius. Then again, it is a spoken word conversation so he could have intended it to be spelled Darth Ikki in which case it would be slightly less weird.
>>19032062Probably because the actual twist is so bugfuck insane that nobody could actually see it coming.>"You know that mysterious mentor character that's heavily implied to be the MC's big brother?">"Well, he's actually a cyborg clone of the MC's brother made using the corpse of a German ninja and nanomachines."That's the type of shit that if it was in other series would be considered jumping the shark, but cause this is G Gundam we can just take it at face value and carry on.
>>19042974Well that's weird.
>>19045223That is a very forgiving description of it.
>>19042470>There was a pregnant pause in the room after that. People waiting for George to say ‘just kidding,’ but it never comes, and he just moved on to another point.”What a fucking lad. George out there dominating game devs with his freaky mind games.
>>19046415I like the other story too.>When Fracture was revealed to the public, its protagonist was a character named Mason Briggs. By the time the game launched, his name was changed to Jet Brody. A person who helped give this gun-toting rebel his original name recalls going through weeks of naming conventions. “Literally, whole teams sitting together, brainstorming what looks good – the first name, the last name, etc. Done, good to go.”>But then a phantom menace struck. George Lucas would periodically check in on the status of the games his company was making, lending creative input and advice. The developer I talked to sighs, and agitatedly says, “In one viewing of Fracture, [Lucas] said it looked really good, but he didn’t like [Mason Briggs’] name. We’re like, ‘What do you mean, George?’ He responded to the effect of, ‘It doesn’t really fit. When he jumps on stuff, he moves pretty fast. I like B.J. Dart.’>“So everybody’s like, ‘No, he’s gotta be f---ing with us.’ He’s absolutely not. So when something like that happened – in the middle of the campaign, mind you – we have to go back through that entire naming convention again… from scratch.” From that second session, Jet Brody was born. Coincidentally. Jett is the name of Lucas’ son.
>>19034630>>19034659>>19036429wtf, why was G so redpilled?
>>19032080LET ME IN!!!
>>19046415You just know that there consoomers out there that would accept the name if it was written Darth Eke'Hi or something
>>19049194Darth Maul has a brother, in canon, who is named Savage Opress. Star Wars is no stranger to weird-ass names. Although some people stubbornly deny Clone Wars is canon, so I should also mention Elan Sleazebaggano.
>>19049202No one knew that guy's name in the movie itself. He was a very minor character who existed just for the death sticks joke.
>>19049202There was a character in clone wars named ImGunDie who exact role was that he was a jedi being the last defensive line before the republic forces could come heiugh the blockade with supplies and he dies.
>>19049202SW is full of those.>Have they ever told you about the tragedy of Sha'a Gi?
>>19050254> Bayts' name was intended as a pun on the term "masturbates"; a pun later illustrated by Haden Blackman in Star Wars: Obsession. Stradley had initially planned to use the name as a practical joke on Comic Editor at Lucas Licensing Sue Rostoni, who would often put the word "Master" in front of any Jedi's name.
>>19050254>>19050330Cut them some slack. The joke's a classic.
>>19049992I still don't know what George was thinking with this one.
>>19046438Because G-Gundam was actively fighting against the corporatization of the franchise and the the studio workers didn't bring a single fuck to work with them each day.>You want us to make a shonen Gundam? Whose primary purpose is selling new toys? Fine, we'll make the most ridiculous designs we can, and we'll make the shonen-est shonen you've ever fuckin seen! And it's gonna have hookers and blackjack! And ALL the waifus!
>>19053531>try to spite the corporate bigwigs>accidentally make a Gundam that's popular with people who don't like the other Gundams, making Gundam even more successful in generalYeah good job Imagawa.
>>19034644Most "people" who speak English as their first language barely even speak it
>>19034630>mixing up Ace Of Spades and Queen Of Spadesshigga higgahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU1WCgm-RQw
>>19037227>Hispanic people can't be Americans
>>19041091Most ESL speakers understand English better than native speakers
>>19034630>>19055487What does Queen of Spades mean?
>>19055533A sign of black wholesomeness.
>>19055652There's a lot of those. You're going to have to be more specific.
>>19032062>Unknown to Domon. This is his older brother Kyoji who took the Devil Gundam years ago and is now known as Schwarz Bruder.
>>19056015Who are you quoting?
>>19055990There are blacks and there are a lot of wholes.Put two and two together.
>>19042285>>19042287And that original Bruder knew how to get into a serene state of mind and smash most things in the series by spinning like a top. Feel bad that he got eaten by DG cells.
>>19058554Why is DG such a jerk?
>>19059109Lots of reasons.
>>19058385Do people think "huurr who u quotin" is clever or do you seriously not understand that greentext has evolved past being just a means to quote someone.
>>19061581Well the line sounds like it's a quote from something so it's a genuine question.
>>19061588It's a line the narrator says.
>>19032062>"PBR Street Gang, this is Almighty, over...This is Almighty, standing by, over.This is Almighty, how do you copy, over..."
>>19061593there was a PBR street gang and I wasn't invited dude wtf
When wil Devil Gundam get a MG...
>>19064059Just buy the HG?
>>19064013What is this?
>Spike Gundam >Name means to spike someones drinkImpressive localize name for Tequila Gundam
>>19066894that's plush toys of Green Dragon, various Slimes, a traditional-looking Japanese doll-ish knick-nack, an old PBR serving tray, a partially incomplete KR Black head painted like #1, and a Chibi-Usa lunchboxI'm hodling a giant spoon in front of the KR head as this was made originally for making requests as a riff on the idea of "spoonfeeding"
>>19034820Or a cooperation between TAKRAF and Rheinmetall.TAKRAF is used to build the largest mining equipment in the world with up to 14,2 kt of weight and Rheinmetall builds tanks, weapons systems, weapons and car parts.If two german companies could build a giant robot (or other sbsurdly large land based weapons system) it's them.
>>19034644The japanese language got influenced significantly by german in some areas.Back in the day, they did some things with prussia.This lead to the japanese adopting many german words in science, medicine and military.A neat side effect is that most japanese marches are very influenced by german marches, not as much as Chile "we're larping as Prussia in the 21st century", but they sound very simmilar>>19041091The german language is a little more sophisticated than english.So for a native speaker of german, there aren't realy any new concepts in the english language, however for a native english speake the concept of a grammatical gender that may or may not differ from the actual gender is allready alien.And there are more elements of the german laguage that may confuse non-native speakers.For example "das Gleiche" and "das Selbe" have a slightly different meaning, but both translate as "the same".However "das Selbe" means the exact same while "das Gleiche" means something is identical, yet not the exact same.Two cars can be "gleiche", however the can not be "selbe".Or honorary forms that exist in german, but not in english.
>>19068620In addition to that, the word for "german" in japanese is sounding rather simmilar to the german word for german, wich is deutsch.Sounds something like doitsu or so.Also some streets in Düsseldorf look pretty japanese because Düsseldorf has the largest cluster of japanese people outside of japan.
>>19039773You mean Holy Roman Emperor
>Hurricane Gundam>The Netherlands doesn't experience tropical cyclones
>>19068732>Hurricane Gundam>some idiot draws on a map with a sharpie and claims Hurricane Gundam is from Alabama
>>19068494>Spike someone's drinkStop reaching, you damn well know why it's named as such.
>>19068761Oh shit. I just realized. What the fuck?
>>19068763Reminds me of the Mario level.
>>19071906Can't a bruder get a little peace?
>>19069612The one infested with a bunch of spikes?
>>19076270Why would I say that?
>>19068620How come so many German words sound similar to English words? Like "danke" and "thank".
>>19080979iirc the two languages have common ancestors
>>19068742I think I get it.
>god (GOD) gundam>it's just martial arts gundam that shoots fireballs>probably weaker than ZZThe single most disappointing poster gundam ever.
>>19086051Isn't it called Burning Gundam?
Why did the Gundam Fight even need to take place on Earth? These niggas built fucking country-sized space colonies, why couldn’t they just make a really big, space stadium?
>>19090959Guessing the rules were established in a hurry so all countries could agree to it quickly. Colonies were also in the process of being made, so they probably said fuck it, fight it out on Earth, we don't have money for stadiums or judges.
>>19032062>implying all Japanese people know German>implying brother only means siblingThe fact that Domon was Japanese and Bruder had German attire made it hard for people to suspect that he was Domon's brother
>>19090959>>19091021People were getting tired of the space battles that dominates UC Gundam and G Gundam put it on earth to make the fights more dynamic. Everyone in G Gundam knew that nations will not give up their lust for battle or war so they replaced it Pro Wrestling
>>19091086>Bruder had German attireBro he dressed as a ninja.
>>19093801You've never heard of German ninjas, have you? Of course you haven't, because that's how good at deception they are.
>>19086051utter brainlet take
>>19034647You mean his 4 moms
>>19055494>Hispanic people can't be AmericansYes
>>19096730Sorry, pal. The constitution disagrees with you. Take it back to >>>/pol/.
>>19068630>Düsseldorf has the largest cluster of japanese people outside of japan.Both Hawaii and Brazil have larger clusters of Japanese people. Also, Japanese is far more influenced by Dutch and Portuguese (Konpeitō) than it is German. The Japanese didn't care about the Germans until after the franco-prussian war, when their victory convinced the Japanese that they were worthy copying.
>>19096758The country outside of Japan with the largest cluster of Japanese people is Okinawa.
>>19099185Are you an Okinawan? I don't think people know about them and their struggles that much
G-guys? G Gundam is super robot right?
>>19099203Fuck off newfag
>to save earth>must elimate humanMaster Asia was right
>>19099191No, but I found out about them from Eureka Seven. That was the true purpose of that show.
For a guy named bruder, he didn't do a lot of brooding.
>>19091574I read this in Gihren's voice
>>19032062He was quite the bro.
>>19105601What's in a name?
>>19032062What did he even do?
>>19032062I mean, look at Darth Vader. Literally translates to Dark Father.
>>19109293I'm pretty sure it doesn't actually, and that it's only a corruption of the words in any singular language. See articles like https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/11/28/did-german-speakers-understand-the-darth-vader-reveal-before-anyone-else/amp/
Ahhh. A thread about G Gundam names. I get to revive a favorite but of trivia for all the newfags who have never heard it before.Like a lot of shows G Gundam got localized to broadcast in the Philippines, with a Tagalog dub that did its best to work with the character names. Now, you have to understand that it was very common at the time for the dubbing teams to just wholesale change Japanese names to something western in order for both ease of the dialog and so local fans would ostensibly have an easier time of things, regardless of what it did to the characters or their origins. Yu Yu Hakusho for instance, Yuusuke became Eugene, Hiei became Vincent, etc. So when G was announced we all expected some kind of nonsense.But nothing could prepare us for what we got. I still struggle to understand what happened.Domon was mercifully left as Domon. Same with Rain. I think those were oddly Western enough that the dub teams could deal with them, but that logic doesn't hold much water when you see what the did to the rest of the cast. George (GEORGE) became Jorack. I have no fucking clue.Chibodee remained Chibodee but the pronunciation was never quite the same depending on who was saying it.Sai Saici became Disensia. I don't have any idea. Maybe they were going by a different reading of his name in the Chinese subs? I feel like so much of this was due to a chain of bad translations from Japanese into Cantonese into Tagalog.Argo became Algo. Close enough, and they really couldn't fuck it up.Our thread topic Schwartz Bruder became TUBARTZ Bruder. No one knows what a Tubartz is. How they fucked up Schwartz confounds me to this day.But the best was Tohou Fuhai. They couldn't leave it at Tohou Fuhai. The called him Master Asia, sure, because that was already English and they could roll with that. But Tohou Fuhai? He became ORIENTAL INVINCIBLE. Many, many times in the show Domon would angrily growl out his full title, "Oriental Invincible Master Asia!"
>>19109583Oriental Invincible sounds cool, honestly.
>God Gundam instead of Kami Gundam>Master Gundam instead of Sensei GundamExplain this
>>19099219Master Asia was a fool to eliminate humans using a machine bigger than Big Zam and Dr. Mikamura was a bigger fool for offering his daughter like a bargaining chip to pilot such a monstrosity. A woman's duty is to the home and pump out pilots for the glory of Earth. It's a miracle that dimwit Domon managed to save the world after killing his own master and brother, and attempted to harm the woman who can bear fruit.
>>19109914It's simple, Neo Japan built a war machine in the image of God but cannot pilot it due to being a nation of politicians and robotics. Their best pilot was trained by the enemy in his is ways and he does not represent them in the grand stage. Deep Down, Neo Japan wants to rule the world but its merely afraid of the fallout from having to construct a Devil and a God to slay the Devil, so they play coy to atone for their failures.
>>19109945I'll deal with him soon enough.
>>19112260In what sense?
>>19090959In G isn't Earth a shithole and the colonies generally don't care about it so they have their fights there?
>>19115126Why does Earth as a shithole look so much more appealing than Earth as a Utopia?
>>19114759Ignore him. This is /m/ and we rarely get to discuss the settings of Gundam. G is that one anime where everyone is normal instead of an ace pilot
>>19115569>G is that one anime where everyone is normal instead of an ace pilotI can't figure out what you intended to say here.
>>19117497Okay, he's done.
>>19117497The cast of G Gundam are all delinquents at best or average joes with no interest in politics. They're prized fighters who formed bonds and their own social circle thru fighting. The main antagonist isn't even the Devil Gundam but rather the politicians trying to create a monster and a weapon only to be done in by their own twisted ambitions.Domon Kasshu is only the winner if only because he learns to use might correctly and does not play the role of Strongman to weak colonies. Note how he's the only pilot not born to be a new type or some brat with Political connections. He's just a normal boy who became a man!
>>19120024> The cast of G Gundam are all delinquents at best or average joes with no interest in politics.George is a nobleman, which is in no way an "average Joe". None of them are really, since their skills make them far from average.> The main antagonist isn't even the Devil Gundam but rather the politicians trying to create a monsterIf that was true then the Devil Gundam wouldn't have used everyone that tried to use it, and Ulube or someone would have been the final antagonist.> Note how he's the only pilot not born to be a new type or some brat with Political connections. He's just a normal boy who became a man!Heero, Garrod and Loran were neither Newtypes or Newtype analogues or politically connected either. It was the trend in the 90s for those early AU shows.
>>19120582That reminds me, I remember when I was a kid I used to think Chibodee was the French guy and George was the American guy, because why would an American be named Chibodee?
>>19120610I don't like George de Sand. He's course and rough and irritating and he gets everywhere.
>>19034647Bottom left please
>>19034834Chibodee is just really into Q anon.
>that part where Neo Germany nukes IsraelHow did Raimi get away with this?
>>19120582>Heero Yuy wasn't politically connected
>>19109914Master Gundam isn't Japanese
>>19126539Good point, but Master Gundam still isn't the correct name. I'm not sure what would be though.
>>19126672He literally assumed the name of a politician.
>>19126688I can call myself George Washington it doesn't make me connected to shit
>>19126693Wouldn't it be easier to just admit you haven't watched Wing instead of trying to act cute like this?
>>19126697please explain the real and direct connection he had
>>19126693You say "assumed" as if he took on the politician's identity too, or even did it by choice. It was a code name given to him by others, and had no actual benefits of or from the original person who had that name.
>>19126572It's literally Master Asia's Gundam
>>19127030So is Kowloon Gundam but his name isn't Master Kowloon.
>>19127769Kowloon Gundam is a disguise for his real unit though, so of course it doesn't use his real name. It probably uses his birth place instead.
>>19127784>using his real birth place as a disguiseWas Master Asia kind of dumb?
>>19127789He's not hiding the fact he has a suit or anything, so using names tied to himself doesn't expose anything. He was just hiding that it wasn't the real suit.
>>19127789>>19127845Kowloon Gundam was the one he used in the 12th Gundam Fight. He was pretending he was just using the same Gundam a second time in a row, which wasn't unusual: Chapman used the same Gundam three times and only updated it after he'd lost.
>>19127769>>19127789Not as dumb as (You)
>>19129712So, basically, what you're saying is?
>>19132157Reduce the forces
>>19134342WHAT ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE MOBILE SUITS!?!?!!
>>19132157>>19134348I'm saying (You) are fucking brain-addled
>>19137042You must be new around this time period.
>>19137042ARE YOU MAKING FUN OF ME! DAMMIT!!!!!!
>>19139101Can I press 1 for English?
>>19141524>not having a Serene State of Mind in a Schwartz thread
>>19141573I see your Schwartz is as big as mine. Now let's see how well you handle it.
>>19139815I DON'T UNDERSTAAAND?! I THOUGHT THE ENGLISH THREAD WAS THAAT WAAAY!?..
>>19148652I'm not so sure.
>>19037383It was truly brutal what they did to him.
>>19152391He was rumored to be a duck.
>>19150240Don't ask about the chocolate milk.
>>19154072Nah, Schwarz is a perfectly ordinary human man.
>>19032062G-Gundam is just Speed Racer with giant robots.
>>19155688Good ol' Bonermachine, always providing us with high quality images.
>>19127789No. Master Asia was a wrestling heel akin to Hollywood Hulk Hogan
>>19055469Pretty sure it wasn't that popular in Japan at first. Look how long Sunrise dragged their ass at releasing the blu-ray.
>>19109583By any chance did G Gundam get one of those amazingly bad Filipino English dubs like ZZ did?
>>19157556afaik no, just a North American dub with Domon by a guy so powerful he dropped voice acting to become a dentistWITH THE HELP OF KIYOJIIIIIIbut yeah some manner of Speedy / Daimos dub would be pretty great probably