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I’ve wondered this for years and I saw a new statue on sell that makes me ask this.

Why the fuck is the west obsessed with Tommy and the Green Ranger? They act as if he was the main character in MMPRs.
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>>18788419
he was
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>>18788419
MMPR inherited Zyuranger’s flaw of the plot being noticeably wrapped around the sixth, so basically whenever Tommy/Burai got focus, the show improved. Add the fact that Tommy becomes the leader once he becomes White and continues to be on the show for a few more years, and it’s obvious why he’s remembered
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>>18788419
>Why the fuck is the west obsessed with Tommy and the Green Ranger? They act as if he was the main character in MMPRs.
If you've watched MMPR as a kid, you'd know he was the most interesting aspect of the show during first two years.
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>>18788419
Tommy had an actual character arc, which in MMPR inherently makes him stand out.
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>>18788560
This, more or less. It was basically inevitable when they chose what show to adapt. Burai was obscenely popular in Japan when Zyuranger was airing, to the point that there was an actual honest-to-god letter writing campaign to undo his death. The fact that Power Rangers stuck with the same cast for several years and had to invent new ways to keep the character relevant meant that he was always going to stand out compared to the others.
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>>18788621
This, people think Tommy getting majority focus didn't start until he became the white ranger, but other than Day of the Dumpster, and Doomsday, which both take place before and after his initial run as green, every major plot episode of season 1 centered around him, and he has the most focus episodes as a result, with Kimberly taking a close second.
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>>18788419
Baby's first story arc.
Not even being peyorative here, its pretty much what happened and left a big impression on them.

>>18788560
>I didn't watch Zyuranger
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>>18788419
He stood out more than the other rangers. His outfit was the same, but more with the added chest piece. The Dragonzord was cool and had a cool summoning with the flute dagger.
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>>18788628
Ironic, Tommy had the same letter campaign apparently and it worked.

Also the fact that Burai was killed off because the writers admitted he was too popular is a power move.
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>>18788419
Burai and Tommy both were kinda unheard of. Burai established sixth/extra Rangers and basically was a powerful rival in the beginning. Tommy was big for the same reasons but US kiddie shows hadn't had a character quite like his when he was introduced.
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Isn’t the actor like a born-again Christian or something stupid?
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>>18789558
he has had that as parts of his marketing, like iirc he had a tm on "Jesus Didn't Tap Out" or something similar
>>18789406
I forget, was any of the prime-time run on Fox with Green Ranger?
But yeah I wasn't into MMPR but _everybody_ knew the Green Ranger was basically the coolest shit back then, he was a hero design with extra crap and he was a bad guy and he had a mechagodzilla and he just kicked the shit out of the good guys and threw them out of their robot
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>>18788419
>They act as if he was the main character in MMPRs
I guess you've never watched MMPR
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>>18788419
Because most folks only watched the first season of MMPR and Green got the most focus.
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Charizard of Power Rangers
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>>18788419
Before Tommy shows up. The cool character of the team for your average middle class kid was Jason.

- Zack was your black best friend sidekick (Doug's Skeeter, Hey Arnold's Gerald)
- Billy was the nerd
- and you had 2 girls that you crushed on depending on your taste in women at age 9

So all you had was vanilla Jason. He was cool, but he was also vanilla.

Then Tommy came around and HOLY FUCK. After all these episodic stories and episodes where the status quo is returned and the formula repeats itself day after day, you got a FIVE PART ONGOING STORY ARC with the Green Ranger.

He was so bad it was cool.

He had a fucking Mecha Godzilla with drill tail

What did the others have? Jason's T-rex was the only true indepedant one and it did very little.

Tommy and the Green Ranger was in a way, the next step or evolution for the Rangers, not just as a design, but weapons, Zords, story and character

Sadly outside of what Tommy did, everyone else didn't grow with him and slowly just fell off.

Fast forward 25 years and because of Jason David Frank and his ties to the brand, he makes sure he is the ULTIMATE RANGER in history
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>>18788655
I wouldn't say that. Thanks to the Zyuranger stockfootage consistant of Burai showing up pretty much for mech fights only, it meant Tommy was always forced into random putty fights or other side gigs to keep him away from the action until it was Dragonzord time. In fact one of Burai's big moments with the team in Zyuranger (where he swings a concrete pillar around) was actually never used because it had too many untransformed Zyurangers in it. He got alot of B plot attention but was usually not the focus of the episode. He didn't actually start getting real character focus until the made for PR eps that actually incorporated him into the group fights.
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This thread is making me feel nostalgic. Where can I download the MMPR?
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>>18790388
/prg/
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>>18790361
Pretty much this

For a lot of us, it was baby's first Shonen Heal-Face turn but Toku.
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>>18790422
>Heal-Face turn
it's just "face turn" or "heel turn"
only tvtards uses heel-face
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>>18790438
That's because he was healed from the mind control.
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>>18788873
This. I was like 5 at the time, and I didn't even know what character growth was, but the fact that Tommy had some while no one else did basically explains it. Although I honestly never really liked Tommy, I was always a Jason/red ranger fan.
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The only thing worse than Tommy is that edgy evil Tommy from the comics that is getting forced everywhere, from the toys to games.
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>>18790388
You will be severely disappointed watching it today. Not even nostalgia can power me enough to watch an episode all the way through today. Your best bet is to watch Sentai. I watched Gosei Sentai Dairanger, which is where they got the white ranger suit from, and it was awesome. Seriously a great show, unlike MMPR.
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>>18790471
Funny, because he is also the most popular thing in the franchise since Tommy.
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>>18790465
This.

We really had this kind of dynamic in TV shows.

Keep in mind we didn't have complex anime back in 1992-1993 when Power Rangers came out.

So a bad ass BAD GUY changing his ways mid season to good and then being part of the regular GOOD GUY cast was unique for Western 7 year old minds.

For a Sentai kid or Shonen kid in Japan, it was tuesday.
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>>18790494
> When it hits you that "In Space" had a manlet Red Ranger, a porn star Yellow Ranger and the Deadpool logo on their uniforms
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>>18790476
I refuse to believe that people unironically enjoy those comic characters
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>>18790497
He's not even the shortest red. TJ just mogs the fuck out of him.
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>>18790387
But most of the stuff he did get was multi-parters and since the sentai footage was often cut up anyway much of these scenes of him outside of the action took focus for example the episode titled "A Star is Born" is in reference to his attempt to get a commercial gig as opposed to what monster the team was fighting that day. On top of just how the state of his powers and team tended to be the only actual plot related episodes amidst a sea of filler and all of those were multi-parts at that, and yeah a while ago I saw someone actually bother to count focus episodes and their breakdown was.
>Tommy:15
>Kim:12
>Jason/Billy:7
>Zack/Trini:6
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>>18790497
Tracy Lynn Cruz did porn?
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>>18790563
It's the same kind of people who like Power/Rangers, and the 2017 movie because "Power Rangers is serious and mature now!" whose only exposure was MMPR and were peer pressured out of watching anything else because they were baby shows thus missing the seasons that actually tried to be more ambitious.
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>>18790563
>>18790657
Eh, you won't find a bigger fan of MMPR than I was as a kid, but I can't watch that shit now, it's for actual babies. The comic was immensely popular with people like me because it took the characters and put them in a more mature story. Criticize it all you want, but the people that like it are also core fans.
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>>18790687
Edgy is not mature, Lightspeed Rescue was more mature than anything on the comics
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>>18790687
I find more enjoyment of MMPR than any cringe-inducing attempt at being "mature". There is nothing wrong with some camp here and there, that's the reason Adam West's Batman is still so popular.
Also this >>18790693
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>>18790687
Then don't watch MMPR and give seasons like In Space, Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed Rescue, Time Force, Ninja Storm, SPD, Jungle Fury, and RPM a try you baby. Or watch Sentai. There are plenty of avenues to get the same fix Power Rangers can provide, the comics are just a bunch of wasted potential and cosplaybait.
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>>18790636
Nah, it's just, at the time, Ashley had the biggest rack among female Rangers, not sure if that still stands. Kinda helps that Megaranger had a female Yellow, so even stock footage didn't looked completely flat.

Psycho Yellow human form's are even bigger, the same actress also does that Lightspeed Rescue mermaid.
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>>18788419
He had an awesome 5 episode introduction arc, the shield made his suit unique despite otherwise looking exactly like red, but a couple helmet changes, he had the Dragonzord, which was basically a Mecha Godzilla, and he was the strongest. Also JDF's kata's and the fact that he actually knew martial arts and was a bit more limber that ASJ mean "UUT SII, HYAH!" shile he's jumping, flying, and flipping about. He was a break-out character and the show did the right thing to help push him even more. I do think handing him leadership after becoming the White Ranger was too much though.
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>>18790729
I do like Sentai and Kamen Rider. And I did watch the show up until In Space when it originally aired. And to be honest I stopped reading the comics shortly after Lord Drakkon appeared. After that first arc ended I stopped reading; the Shattered Grid arc was pretty awful stuff, from what I saw. I might check out the new book, though. I forget which one it is, but it follows Jason, Kimberly and some other characters as new OC rangers in space.
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>>18790772
>Also JDF's kata's
This was probably a major factor. In school I did an advertisement video and there was a section where we would all be in quick succession repeating the same tagline, and one person said it in a "unique" way with the assertion he'd read that's the best way to stand out in such media, naturally this whole section went unused, but I think it's much the same premise. But also it's hilarious he wasn't allowed to do it in Dino Thunder because Disney Execs thought he was swearing and even more hilarious the Akibaranger episode parodying PR made direct reference to his katas by making the Green Ranger "Sieg Heil".
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How is Zyuranger anyway? I want to watch it, but not really feeling like watching a whole filler-centric season. Is there any episode I can skip in order to get the best out of it?
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Muricans value individualism over everything else, so of course when a guy shows and he can solo the whole cast, has a mecha that is as strong as the other 5 put together and on top of everything he dates the hot cheerleader the kids went nuts about him.
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>>18791075
>How is Zyuranger anyway?
Very charming, its the first fantasy show of the franchise and it adapts its tropes to a modern (and sentai) audience.

>but not really feeling like watching a whole filler-centric season
These franchises are episodic, so they do not have filler.
If you don't like episodic material then don't consume it.
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>>18791075
I hope you like kid plots, because Zyuranger loves them. And for there unironically are filler guides for Sentai, but I can’t in good faith recommend them
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>>18791755
>its the first fantasy show of the franchise
No it isn't.
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>>18791777
If you count Turboranger as fantasy I guess.
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>>18790494
>Keep in mind we didn't have complex anime back in 1992-1993 when Power Rangers came out.
We had cartoons. And BTAS and Gargoyles came out around the same time MMPR did.
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>>18791781
Everyone else does.
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>>18788419
As an american I always liked the blue ranger and red rangers better. I am guessing it's because he has his own Zord.
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>>18790494
Honestly how do you have teammates like Ashley and Cassie and resist to urge to fuck both?
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>>18791075
>>18791760
I don't mind episodic shows, but I'm mostly interested in Zyuranger because I want to see Burai in action. I'm 20 episodes in to finish Liveman, the episodic plots are fun but I'm not really willing to sit through 50 episodes of it again.
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>>18791755
>These franchises are episodic, so they do not have filler.
>If you don't like episodic material then don't consume it.
Retards don't understand the difference between filler and episodic.
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>>18791785
They were great, but they weren't the norm. Most of the shows weren't like this.
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because he was charismatic, and as a kid you'll gobble up anything they sell you as awesome and cool so if the shows keep shilling some old dude and you recognize that dude, you'll eventually start to like him
I remember in dino thunder I think? they show you his entire history or whatever, that moment was real hype
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>>18788560
This pretty much.

It doesn't help that the actor that played the lead Red just up and left the show after 1 season.

ASL came back to the franchise as Jason, but by then Tommy was already the establishment.
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>>18792430
Then do it in a few months.
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For the Pink and Green Ranger (Tommy and Kimberly) they make a great couple.
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>>18792535
Not sure about Gargoyles, but Batman had no story arcs. Most of what it had was 2-parters and other shows did it before.
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>>18792769
They literally broke up and are no longer together in future series.
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>>18792855
>future series
you mean the one nostalgiafags didn't watch?
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>>18792898
Zeo is remembered, certainly more than the alien rangers
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>>18788419
i mean he was after he joined the team. It's undeniable that up until, like, the second haf of turbo from the moment he joined the team that PR was kinda the Tommy Oliver show.

Plus the actor has been super supportive of the franchise and readily shows up at cons and for cameos and events and shit whenever possible, helps with fan projects, it gets him a lot of good will.
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>>18788419
Make way for the best Green Power Ranger.
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>>18797131
It's between him and Joel
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>>18797131
You don't compare green to green. You compare extra to extra.



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