But how would you deal with the recent incidents? We've been under attack by mobile suits from Gundanium alloy made in outer space. These indestructible suits have the Earth at a virtual crisis. What do the Specials think? You fought with them.
>>16768498Nuke them. It's the only way to be sure.
>>16768499Oz would probably pack a Leo full of nukes then send it off since it's not suitable for them unless it's man shaped and physically intimidating; only to have it trip over a pebble on it's way out the hanger door and take the entire city off the map. Which they'd then put down to insurgent actions and form a new sub-section of Oz to deal with.
>>16768502Fill cargo planes with Nuke Leos and drop them on the Gundams.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH THOSE MOBILE SUITS?
>>16768512We're discussing the Gundam problem. Have you not been listening?
>>16768498Hey guys check out my new MS design.
>>16768531Where's the beamsaber? What are those red things on the left shoulder? Is it me or tis that torso a little small, it doesn't look like the cockpit will have much room.
>>16768499>>16768502>>16768507Very interesting. That would mean the disarmament of my military would have to be put on the back burner.
>>16768714What is going on with that map behind you? South America is far too the right.
>>16768729Some smart aleck spilled water on the map and we keep forgetting to replace it.
>>16768733...But it's an LCD.
>>16768736Shh don't tell him that, we lied because the LCD screens we get always suck.
>>16768741Who are we buying them from? This is ridiculous if all of them suck this much!
>>16768744China of course, even in the UESA era their quality control is sub-par but hey it's cheap.
Leave those gundams to me!
>>16768498Give the Gundams 24 hours to surrender, if not you'll destroy the colonies. Since the UESA is able to block communication between the colonies, its likely that they can also stop that threat from reaching people in the colonies to avoid panic and riots.
>>16768758Gundanium can only really be destroyed by heat, shooting it with a bunch of bullets wouldn't do anything. Which is why the Leo was so ineffective.
>>16768954Then strap a beam cannon on it ala Gelgoog cannon.
>>16768498Sir, why not have spies learn who the pilots are and kill them via sniper? Please don't take the advice of those fools Zechs and Treize.
>>16769052Because we've already tried that Commander. Why waste more vital Human Resources. Is any one else on board with my Nuke Leos plan?
>>16769052>>16769093Better idea, we spy on them; find where they resupply and send the nuke leos there!
>>16768963Leo tommy guns are pretty baller
>>16769127Tommy guns in general are pretty baller.
>>16769127Nyaa, I'mma takin over dis here colony, see?
>>16770252What's that noi- IT'S A GUNDAM!!!!!
>>16768954>>16768963Leos had beam weapons too, they were just really weak other than the commander version shoulder guns (Which could fire one strong shot followed by one very, very weak one if they didn't take time charging up,)That one there below the stock-footage-intro-only bazooka is a beam rifle, and they can also use beam dobers.
>>16768729>South America is far too the right.Just like in reality, am I right fellas? *rimshot*
>>16768954Not exactly. Remember, Wing self-detonated, but most of its armored shell just proceeded to keel over. All manner of suits hit the Gundams with beam weapons, but they weren't sufficiently powerful enough. And at the same time, they routinely took enough damage from ballistic impacts to require repair.When Hero wanted to destroy both Gundams how did he do it? Naval missiles. He didn't succeed, but he still messed them up and caused Duo, having nothing more to go on than witnessing the missiles knocking both suits back underwater, to remark "he knows Gundanium's impact tolerance".
>>16768498Suicide a close-combat Leo with a warhead. They'll expect a normal explosion.
>>16774074Have Leos commit Seppuku by beam saber to confuse and distract them for a flanking attack!
>>16773773>Just like in reality*cough* Venezuela *cough* Brazil *cough*
>>16773802Maybe heat is more important in GOL?Does Tallgeese have a heatlance specifically because of that?It also seems that once the Gundams show up MSs start to use more beam weapons over ballistic. But it's been a long to to watch Wing or read the manga.
>>16773802>>16774445The first MS weapon to deal more severe damage to a Gundam was the Taurus beam cannon. Otherwise there are a few instances where pilots exclaim or it is shown that they've suffered minor damage from a direct hit, like the bazooka that Zechs hit the Wing Gundam with, or the Virgo beam cannon that didn't break the exterior armor but managed to put the Wing Gundam's knee joint out of action, crippling it.
Make them fight 100 of these
Why don't we just burry a nuke in a remote base, send all our retard soldiers with the oldest batch of Leo's, and then quitly let it leak that we are developing anti-gundam mobile suits in this location? Then when the gundams show up we just remotly detonate the nuke and then let the media scream how the gundams detonated a nuke on earth's soil?
>>16775252That'd be too obvious. The Gundams would see through the plot easily.
>>16775255That bunch of retarded teens? Hah! They will not be able to resist this bait. Plus we can always put out some extra rumors about us having recaptured the old scientists that made the Tallgeeze. That will be sure to lure them.
Time to give it up.
>>16768498Why was his dub voice?
>>16781241WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!?!HIS DUB VOICE WAS PERFECTLY FIIINE
>>16781241>>16781243It's so weird to me that it came out this way. As you can see in the OP, the lines he has are pretty normal and wouldn't even stand out as odd if they were read normally, but not only did this guy shout basically every single line, he did it while sounding like Animal from the Muppets.Like, you have to assume the people involved in this dub were humans. Why did none of them at any point think "You know, this voice doesn't really match this dialogue, maybe we should try a different one." The most forgiving explanation I can come up with is that it was some sort of in-joke that they got away with sticking in the dub because he's a pretty minor character.
>>16768954The entire suit isn't made of that special material. I always imagined the armor was special, but the frame it was mounted to could only take so much. #FanTheories
>>16781940Well, anything is better than snobbishly looking down on the writers and assuming they didn't think things through.
>>16781295The dub doesn't actually list a VA for General Septum if I recall from a thread a few years back, so someone probably did it as a joke and then made sure their name wasn't in the credits just in case.
>>16773802>"he knows Gundanium's impact tolerance"That was a dub line. Heero wasn't trying to destroy the suit with the missiles. He remotely activated the self detonation device and was using the missiles to set it off. Duo disabled it earlier though so the suit didn't go off.
Gentlemen, we're wasting valuable combat resources just chatting here.
>>16783367Valuable combat resources? Are you talking about our soldiers? Or are you talking about mobile suits?
>>16774581YOU'RE SAYING, REDUCE THE FORCES ?
Hey guys I stol- I mean borrowed this design from some guys in Japan. What do you think?
>>16774475I seem to recall a few times where Leo's with doberguns also managed to mess up the Gundams and at least stop them advancing. So high calibur weapons probably do have some effect.
>>16782958writers are mostly retards though
>>16784293The Leo doberguns fall into the range of "pilot gets knocked around and the Gundam seems to have taken some damage but it's not really visible and really minor"
>>16784325Clearly a Leo cannon armed with two dober guns on the shoulders is the right course of action.
>>16784209NINETY TWO MILLION!?
>>16784364Wing is ripe for many custom MS. Why were they scared of doing so?
>>16768752OZ's QC was a good bit better than the Alliance's. Then again, they were the ones in charge of construction....and the coup.
>>16785093I don't know, man. Especially since the Leo is easily the second best grunt suit in the entire franchise.
>>16786248The best being?
>>16785093I think it's less fear, and more a complete lack of interest on the part of the creators. Suzumura was interested in telling a melodramatic story, not in telling a mech story. Whatever pressure Sunrise put on him or his team for designs they were turning out as new units rather than variants, which Sunrise probably didn't care about the distinction; if anything they'd probably favor it, since variants may have been viewed as less salable than new units.
>>16788126Wing MSV when.
>>16787445This guy designed the Leo.
>>16784325>>16784364The Leo Commander Shoulder guns just need better recharge rates to be really scary. First shot blew massive holes in another Leo but an immediate followup shot only took the outer armor off an Aires. That custom model is pretty fucking awesome though.>>16785093At least the Magenacs got lots of custom variants, from gun-arms to THREE different shoulder cannon variants in this one shot and I think another variant with a single shoulder gun in a different shot.I also always thought the Sandrock should have had Guncannon style shoulder guns like the similarly named UC Mudrock Gundam. Wonder if I could make that in one of those Virtual-Gunpla games.
>>16784364Isn't that just really similar to a Tragos in walk mode?
>>16789296And here's the Magenac with a gun arm.I will admit to occasionally writing shameless shitty fanfic outlines for a setting that bashes AC and OYW UC suits into one setting that's MOSTLY UC based but slightly less brutal
>>16789311We should definitely change the spelling to Magenac. Maganac makes me feel this weird sense of disgust. I can't put my finger on it.
>>16789327I mean it's pronounced Maguanac.
>>16786248>Leo is easily the second best grunt suit>made of explodiumWindham, M1 Astray, Flag, Tieren, Genoace, Shiden, etc, etcyou're right about Zaku II though
Oh my goodness.
>>16784319Really, then how come they have a job and you don't. Inb4 you blame the Jews
>thinking leos are actually greatWhat's so good about them? I mean they are uglier than Zeon's suits and even less effective.>Zaku vs LeoI'm sure the Zaku wins easily (omitting the pilot).
>>16792222Considering the Leo can use beam weapons I'd say it's closer to the Act Zaku or Hizack.
>>16792222Leo has beam weapons, weighs dozens of tons less and has better equipment.
>>16792222Leos have a cooler name so they win.
>>16792222>>16792238Yeah I think AC grunts have dimensions in between Late UC and Early UC MS.
>>16775255Yeah, just like they saw through Treize using them to assassinate the pacifists in the Earth Sphere Alliance military.
>>16793728What the fuck was Treize's problem?
>>16794364I thought that was Wufei's problem.
>>16794368Why do you think Wufei was gay for him?
>>16794374Being gay is not honorable.
Aries is the sexiest Wing grunt
>>16797094Damn straight it is
>>16800808Or is it?
>>16801308>>16800808>>16797094No, it's actually the Tragos. Its sex appeal comes from the fact that its shoulder cannons can even tell Gundams to fuck off.
>>16801325Poor Tragos always gets forgotten.
>>16801328I guess it's too bulky for some, though that's precisely why I like it.
>>16801325>>16801341T H I C CHICC
>>16801328But he's just happy to be there, having a nice time whistling.>>16801325>>16801341>>16801355Shoulder cannons are great, and having multiple mobility modes with their hoversleds is even better.
>>16768544The red things are a deployable beam shield, like the Mercurius had only this one can fight back
>>16785928the fuck you need goggles for when you're in a mobile suit?inb4 J-Decker screencap
>>16802175They could work like the VF-headset in the Turn-A and link with the on-board computer to display extra details and help with aiming or something. There's not really any reason the regular monitors couldn't handle that, even in the Turn A, but it's an element regardless. Realistically they're just included as a nod to WWI and WWII era pilots in open canopies who wore them to protect against wind and there was certainly no effort given in show to justify them or show them doing something like the above idea, but you could probably come up with something if you wanted to.
What do you guys think of THIS?
>>16818293The coloring made me mistake it for an anime girl from the thumbnail, perhaps Saber Lily.
>>16818293RG Leo when???
>>16768498Alternate plan: what if we just figure out what it is the colonies are mad at us for doing, then agree to stop doing it? The Gundams either withdraw, or they continue fighting, allowing us to turn public sentiment against them even in the colonies.When their support dries up, they'll cease to be an effective fighting force.
>>16820833I like it.
>>16768498Did anyone here that?
>>16823388Damn it, I considered posting this.
Super advance Japan probably have something that could stop them.
>>16823443Forget the mecha, where did they find four people large enough to be seen from space?
>>16768498Who was his fucking VA? His voice was ridiculous.
>>16826006As far as I can tell he wasn't credited, probably because the guy knew if they ever found out who he is he'd never get work again.I'm curious to hear how comparatively normal Septum's voice must sound in Japanese, but not curious enough to download an episode.
>>16826028GundamInfo has subtiled Wing on Youtube right now.
>>16826118Thanks, I completely forgot that channel existed. I'll give it a look.
Put your KITSUNE up!!
>>16824895The Moon landing was FAKE!
>>16797094>Simultaneously skipping and pursuing leg day.
>>16833130The breasts are WAY bigger, though.
Hit too close to home, did it?
>>16788132What is G-Unit, what is Tiel's Impulse, what is Frozen Teardrop
>>16851530I can't believe they did a Gundam thing called G-Unit hahahahahahahahaha.
>>16851575I'd better be patient then.
>>16768498What's the delay on Naruto and Bleach?
>>16768498> What do the Specials think?
>>16862968I dunno how this guy survived every single Gundam and never died.
Can anyone tell if this thread report is real or figment of schizophrenia? All this gundam talk is not healthy.
But for my money, this is the best Gundam series.
>UC baddies>german military aesthetic>MS are absolutely terrifying>AC baddies>french military aesthetic>MS blow up constantlyDid everyone else notice this?
>>16876757Brits antagonists soon?
>>16876761If a guy named McGillis isn't British I don't know what is.
If they're indestructible, why don't we emp them. The inner frame and circuitry can't be indestructible.
>>16876872Analogue sir.>>16876846Military aesthetic wise though. Also that's more Scottish & we all know how the Scottish feel...
>>16876757Are you implying Zakus don't blow up constantly?
>>16768729Continental drift my dude
>>16876886Last I checked Scotland was a part of Britain?
>>16797094Thicc in all the right places (tits, thighs, crotch, pauldrons)
>>16877597What exactly is beneficial about a thick crotch?
There are many things I would like to know.
>>16877782Protective of leg joints I guess.
>>16881657Does thicc joint mean good chest protection?
>>16886441Ain't that the truth?
>>16787279It sucks being a fan of the Zaku I, I just like the way it looks better, and made it my main suit in the ps2 zeon game(cant remember the name, it was allot like rise from the ashes on Dreamcast)
>>16889817Nothing to be ashamed of, there's fans of Gouf & Gyan here after all.
>>16768498By exhausting them. A siege battle plan. Just hope they don't obliterate all the opposing units.
>>16889835>Leos & Aries
>>16889827Gyanko posts here?
No. Not even technically.
That up smash.
>shooting a man after throwing him out of a plane
>>16908094At least he can talk.
>>16908027He didn't fly so good.
>>16889817Zeonic front ? Pretty good game
>>16889817Man it's crazy to think that they actually used to localize Gundam games even on a dead system like Dreamcast.I wonder why the fuck they stopped considering Gundam is much more popular now than it is then.
>>16768498Very interesting... subtitle comparisons:http://aboutgundamwing.com/Series/series07.htm
>>16918383>An actual gundam wing web
>>16908027No one seems to ever admits how impressive of a shot that is
>>16926107What was the point though? Like in what possible circumstance would he survive being thrown out of a plane?Also if Lady Une is this good a shot how come she didn't win the war singlehandedly?
>>16926126People have survived skydiving with parachutes that didn't open.
I am pretty sure that River only kills people with swords.
>>16768729Is just a Japanese map
I'm gay by the way if that helps
>>16787445I remember writing this. Incredibly good feels reading that someone cared enough to save it. Makes my day. Thanks anon.
>>16794180He inserted himself into the literal illuminati as their primary arms provider using private military companies and then when their goals didn't align with his -- that a willingness to defend your beliefs is necessary for beliefs to be tested in trial by fire in order to ensure that they are beliefs worth having them and that the people fighting for them deserve to have them. What's more is by keeping a culture of combat, it pushes forward the idea of self agency, that people must be in control of their own lives to take responsibility for themselves.He saw the coming change coming, that the illuminati, Romafeller (who exist as a portmanteau of new business and old family oligarchs) would disregard this and that would mean that if people under them would never become strong enough to overthrow the order once it became complacent -- so he installed himself in a position which would ensure this did not happen.
>>16826118>GundamInfo has subtiled Wing on Youtube right now.Not anymore it doesn't.
>>16908027People do sometimes survive skydives without their parachutes opening.
>>16943758What's so funny?
>>16784364Are those Tallgeese legs on a Leo body? The proportions feel off
>>16950050Considering the Leo IV is a not-so-tallgeese it makes some sense.
I want to do sexual things with Relena.
>>16956434>Relena DarlianWho draws a picture of someone before they've finished watching the show?
>>16957247A lot of (most?) fanart you'll find are by people who doesn't have any stake in whatever show/game/whatever they're supplying art for. They'll like the character design and want to draw it.
>>16957356Hm. That would certainly explain why so much fanart is just a picture of the character doing a generic pose in front of a white background.
>>16957247She still goes by Darlian at the end when she because the Minister of whatever the fuck.
>>16957391>>16957396Yeah, but nobody would call her that unless they have only a passing knowledge of the show.
>>16787445I heard an old wives tale about the producers being pissed off about Wing Gundam getting "taken down" on the first episode.
>Septum>That part of your nose that separates the nostrilsWith a voice like that, this can't be mere coincidence...
>>16961566Probably, but it bears mentioning that Septum is also Latin for seven which is in line with all the other number names in this show.
>>16801328Poor Taurus. I feel like it's the most underappreciated Wing suit. I think its problem was it was associated with the Mobile doll system mostly.
Ummm, Knack 2?
>>16958696Sure, just like only people with passing knowledge of 0079, Zeta and/or Char's Counterattack call Casval by his assumed name.
>>16964085That's different because he continues to go by Char and even when he stops going by Char he goes by Quattro instead.
>>16964116Not really, because Relena continues to go by Darlain too. It's the name she chooses to identify with, just like Char. The only difference is that Char uses it more on screen after it's revealed. Even then, Relena only ever uses the Peacecraft name when politically convenient if I recall, which makes up a large part of the show, but she still chooses to go by Darlain afterwards.
Why does this thread keep bumping despite their being no new posts? It must have happened at least a half dozen times now, and it'd probably have died a week or more ago if not for those bumps.
>>16965487https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/16768498/#16965487OP really likes their thread I guess.
>>16966130Wonder if I can hit 500 by the time we're done.
Each gundam uses the same attack patterns, as could be clearly seen on multiple occasions.I'm not saying all other pilots suck, but if boss enemy in a game used the same attack second time, I'd easily be able to dodge or counter it.
>>16800660Poor Leo he just wanted to more Daka
>>16966130Damn he's been going at it for over two months now. Also >777 days until Avatar 2
>>16968218Is Avatar /m/? Might watch it if so.
>>16820768GET TO DA CHOPPAH
>>16956434>QT European princess falls in love with an edgy japanese teenager.But why.
>>16966130>>16968218Must be the same sperg that made the virus buster thread, I'd bet.Anyway if he's refusing to let the thread die we can at least post LoGH reaction images
>>16961580septem is Latin for sevens(a)eptum is Latin for enclosure/fence/wall/floodgate/divider
>>16864613Because none of the later conflicts were A Baoa Qu tier. Gryps roughed up the Argama, but didn't sink it, Bright left after the Nahel Argama was rolled out and left Beecha to be the captain, and Char's forces were more focused on making sure Axis drops than they were taking out as many Londo Bell ships. In fact another way to look at it is that none of the other ships Bright has captained gained that "High priority target" status that White Base gained purely by fighting the OYW themselves for the most part.That's not to say the Titans, and Neo Zeon are stupid, just that by that point everyone had ace pilots in mobile suits, so sinking flagships stopped being a big deal.
>>16976591That makes sense.
>>16768498Did this VA ever do anything else?
>>16981869There are some who say he is now the president of the United States.
>>16768758>2 seconds of BRRRTTTT>explodes externally
>>16981870I would've voted for him on the basis of his voice alone. This is the best Presidente in 16 years.
>>16981879>you will never hear USA Dub Septum debate his opponentsI THOUGHT YOU TAX POLICIES WERE THAT WAAAY
>>16981891I can imagine "Her Opponent" with Septum's voice. It sounds like gold.
>>16982875COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? YOU WERE SPEAKING TOO SOFTLY.
Yep, everyone but me sure is fucking stupid. Now if you'll excuse me I need to crash this asteroid into Earth.
>>16991345>>16991373what a bunch of extremely low quality postsall pol is fag
Best way would be to equip depleted uranium bullets to a large aries force and throw a whole shit ton of Leo's at them to distract them as the aries do single pass fly by ground support missions.
>>16993656This is the funniest meme I have ever seen.Why is LoGH such a boon for humor?
Blah, blah, blah.
>>16968920Because he said he was gonna kill her and that made her wet
Good ol' fascist dictatorships.
Well that's cool but you don't have to be afraid to go harder.
Is Reinhard, dare I say, Ryo Horikawa's best role?
>>17003202No because he was also Captain Falcon.
>>17003202Vegeta is still cooler.
>>17004915Vegeta's a large fellow.
>>16768729When Turn-A reset everything after G Gundam, they had to cover a few holes in tue atlantic.
>>16768498But, I mean seriously, like everybody. Seriously, how are you supposed to survive against a threat like that?! I'm serious, what should Zeon do? They've tried everything, even gunarmor are just blips. Even in sheer numbers, they get fucked over. Gaint nuclear laser canon? One chick ruins everything. Like, Zeon just can't compete.
>>17012680Turns out General Septum was one of their smartest guys. Which really explains a whole lot of things.However,>Zeon
>>17012736Maybe it's SD Gundam Generations and OZ is working with Zeon.
>>16774422>MonkeylandThis post did not age well.
>>17021820I don't think it was correct even back in August.
>>16768498Why not make your own mobile suits from Gundanium? How is it possible the world government is less able to secure a resource than some 5 nobodies in space.
>>17026128>I havent watched the series so im completely ignoring the under-bearing plot of the universe
>>17026316>check wiki>Virgos were made of Gundaniumfucking what I don't remember that at all
>>17026128Nigger, are you deaf? That's exactly what they did.
>>17026337It was a lower grade of gundanium so while they were sorta resistant to grunt attacks on the rare chance that their shields didn't block the attack, the Gundams' gundanium weapons were still strong enough to defeat their armor.Here's a webm where a Taurus beam rifle is able to knock back and only moderately damage a Virgo, unable to penetrate through all the way.
>>17026382Wow, I really don't remember grunts ever doing that well vs the mobile dolls, maybe I should rewatching Wing. I remember thinking how stupid it was to suggest a dozen people are going to commit suicide to take down 1 mobile doll.
>>17026382Okay, this is epic.
>>17026337i didnt know that eithermaybe 'cause The Scientists made these two beautiful bastards that Virgo is based on.
>>17026353Not really, Tallgeese was made of titanium alloy, it's never explicitly stated any non-gundams are made of gundanium in the anime (manga maybe).
>>17027296The manga is one of those rare manga that actually goes even faster than the anime, it is complete garbage and does not state anything of value. Not even the art is good.
>>17026417>remember thinking how stupid it was to suggest a dozen people are going to commit suicide to take down 1 mobile doll.Well, that suicide charge only happened once in the TV series proper, and the intro of Endless Waltz inserted a few more suicide attacks just for the hell of it. Here's another webm where one Virgo was knocked on its ass and another able to be shot down by a beam rifle.>>17027296What are you talking about? Tallgeese wasn't made in response to the Gundams, it already existed before the Gundams were even an idea. As part of OZ's next generation MS development, Lady Une captures the Gundam scientists and force them to make the Mercurius and Vayeate which OZ refines into the Virgo. Those suits are made of Gundanium.
>>17027563>What are you talking about? Tallgeese wasn't made in response to the Gundams, it already existed before the Gundams were even an idea.Yes it was you nonce, the plans existed, it was the prototype, it wasn't actually built until the Gundams appeared as a means of fighting them.>Those suits are made of GundaniumWhere is that stated?
>>17028147The Tallgeese I was already built before Zechs requested it; it was just pulled out of mothballs since it was never nessecary before that point. I think it required a bit of maintenance after it's long storage too.
>>17028147>it wasn't actually built until the Gundams appeared as a means of fighting them.What are you talking about? The first time the Tallgeese was shown in episode 3, it's already in a hangar at the "Corsica museum" collecting dust with its head detached and in a state of disrepair. Walker calls it a historical artifact. Zechs takes it away to have it refurbished for his use.>Where is that stated?Official website, guidebooks, and the fact that the Vayeate was able to tank a medium power TBR shot for a couple of seconds without disintegrating in episode 24, just losing quite a bit of armor instead. Bottom of this page scan from the Gundam Wing MS Encyclopedia says "[装甲材質] ガンダニュウム合金" which you can stick into a translator yourself.
>>17028374So Zechs was kicking ass with old, outdated technology? What a badass.
>>17035877More than any other Gundam, Wing is structured in such a way that older is usually better. Tallgeese and Wing Zero were both mothballed, or in Wing Zero's case never built, because they were too good and everything since then has been watered-down versions of them. Tallgeese is still a bleeding-edge mobile suit if you can actually handle it, the problem being that almost nobody can.
>>17035890I mean, Turn A and G-Reco are both about finding or building suits that are thousands of years old but still more advanced than contemporary technology due to social and technology stagnation or outright destruction. IBO glorifies older suits too.
>>16768498We counter with a new gundam of our own. and start destroying colonies until they surrender.
ONCE THE BIG ZAM IS MASS PRODUCED
>>17039032THE GUNDAMS WILL HAVE A SLOW, UNGAINLY UNIT THEY CAN DESTROY IN RECORD NUMBERS
>>17039694Makes you wonder why on earth they thought the Big Zam would be such a game changer.
>>17028374The Vayeate's cannon and generator look so fucking cool
>>17041230Have some more, friend.
>>17041821Did they ever explain why the backpack generator opened?Also, I think Vayeate being a huge dick in Endless Duel has made me substantially fonder of it than I otherwise would be.
>>17041867I dunno, it just does. During the fight between Wing Zero and the Mercurius+Vayeate, Heero is able to use the Vayeate's beam cannon even though Trowa is incapacitated and out of the fight because he can physically open it up and manipulate it.
>>17041944It really does.
Also, fuck Steve King.
>>17035901with g-Reco it's more about finding put suits and upgrading them
>>16768498I think we need to build better mobile suits and stop using fucking leos.
>>17027263everything in that scene except the head crush was recycled footage with different backgrounds. Gundam Seed gets a lot of flak but GW was just as bad at it.
>>17049310That's a shame. No wonder people like Wing when they're younger but dislike it when they go back and watch it and notice this.Still, at least Wing has better music than Seed.
>>17047570Fine. Modify the Cancer for space operations!
>>17050186Are you Mad!? We'd bankrupt ourselves doing that!
>>17051317Just do what we did last time. Run a huge bill, then have a coup d'etat and say the previous regimes expenses don't apply.