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all these translator notes in the genealogy of morality state the when nietzsche refers to the noble class as "blond beasts", he is simply talking about a lion.

can someone confirm if this is true or not? it seems like horseshit and cope
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“One cannot fail to see at the bottom of all these noble races the beast of prey, the splendid blond beast, prowling about avidly in search of spoil and victory; this hidden core needs to erupt from time to time, the animal has to get out again and go back to the wilderness: the Roman, Arabian, Germanic, Japanese nobility, the Homeric heroes, the Scandinavian Vikings--they all shared this need."
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"I used the word ‘state’: it is obvious who is meant by this--some pack of blond beasts of prey, a conqueror and master race which, organized for war and with the ability to organize, unhesitatingly lays its terrible claws upon a populace perhaps tremendously superior in numbers but still formless and nomad. That is after all how the ‘state’ began on earth: I think that sentimentalism which would have it begin with a ‘contract’ has been disposed of."

I think it's obvious what he is talking about when he writes "blond beast".Why do these academics try to distort something so unequivocal ?
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A Greek before Deucalion is a Titan.
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>>22078115
see >>22078107
why would a blond guy be "prowling" and why would arabs, greeks and japs be blond
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>>22078137
>and why would arabs, greeks and japs be blond

>he doesn't know about the ancient aryans
ngmi
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>>22078142
Funny... yet Japanese is not a Indo Euro language? Nor Arabic for that matter
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>>22078155
like i said, you just don't get it. all ancient civilisations were founded by aryans.
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>>22078185
>we wuz ancient aryans and shit
Close the browser and read a book sometime, boy. Or gb2>>>/pol/
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>>22078194
Why are you so mad, brownie?
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>>22078225
>look, ma, I did a racism! Plz notice me
Grow up, incel
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>>22078250
Total aryan victory is inevitable.
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>>22078255
marrying a 30+ bodycount independent women with a 30% chance of divorce (and losing half their life savings) is the fate all glorious aryans deserve
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>>22078275
You shall be conquered , brown boy.
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>>22078099
Really? I don't remember that from the Kaufman translation, and all the based incels insist that he waters down Nietzsche to make him seem less racist
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>>22078099
>>22078107
>>22078115
It is obvious he is not advocating for a particular phenotype but using blonde beast as representative of a particular body of people who in the history of any society were its initial—or most successful—stock, having subjected the rest to their mastery or domain. In the context of European history this is immediately understood, as at one point roving Germanic warlord-princes had established their rule from Iberia to the Volga thus laying the foundations of a post-Roman and pan-European geopolitical and cultural space, having under their boots the Romans, the Celts, the Slavs, the Berbers, and others, before being subsumed themselves. But we could just as well observe the role played by conquering strata in other cultures, which is N's point—it is a univeral feature of humanity that some rogue lawless population is in fact the one which establishes the "rules," rules which derive from the expression of their own power and not from the hatred of another's power over them. It is not Wewuzism unless you are committed to a contextually impoverished twitter-made interpretive lens.
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>>22078099
>>22078107
After this example passage you posted. I've come to the opposite conclusion. He's very clearly talking about a lion here. As a metaphor for the inner beast(well the noble part of ones inner animal) at least. You'd need to be willfully blind to not tell.

I will take a gander and assume you are both blonde and involved with some very strange people on twitter. (Ironically those same people are quite fond of concepts like ethnonarcissism)
Have some instrospection and self awareness. Ignore the ego boost coming from the assumption that Neitzche was talking about people like you for a second. And ask yourself these questions.
Why would nietzche be talking about a man, when speaking of the inner animal nature?
Why would he be alluding to a human when speaking about beasts of prey?
Why would he eschew the lion, perennial symbol of power and majesty, for an obtuse comment about the properties of the blonde peoples?
Really, I believe you might only believe in this because it flatters you, and nothing else.
>>22078115
>I think it's obvious what he is talking about when he writes "blond beast".
People like you, of course.
>Why do these academics try to distort something so unequivocal ?
For all the academic butchery of ol' neecher. This one is on you anon.
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>>22078185
Interesting that these statuettes were a few among many others. Can you post the most common of these Near Eastern statuettes?
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>>22078142
Afrocentrism if blacks had an average IQ of 108
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>>22078287
Yeah. Come get me, 4chan bad boy.
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>>22078678
You vs me
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>>22078185
>cows are... le aryan
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>>22078715
>not knowing that during the age of taurus, bulls were revered as Gods, therefore were painted in the colors of their noble/ruling/Godly caste (aryans)
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>>22078723
>aryans had blue hair.
Sheit we were ruled by anime characters.
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>>22078723
proto indo european tauros is derived from proto semitic tawr btw
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>>22078732
actually retarded if that's what you took away from it. are you autistic? do you think everything is literal? lol
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>>22078737
do you have blue, hair anon?
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>>22078733
More like it's the other way around.
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>>22078737
>nazi has no sense of humor
Many such cases
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>>22078763
>leftoid isnt funny
many such cases
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>>22078776
>no u
Many such cases
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>>22078776
I do not expect the butt of the joke to find my jokes funny. But would be pleasantly surprised if they did.
>>22078751
I'm very clearly poking light fun at you.
Besides these types of arguments are only one tier above Hotep at best.
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>>22078115
>>22078524
He's left blonde beast ambiguous enough to allude to both and mean them both.
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>>22078816
If you choose to interpret it that way, sure. Its completely possible. Just obtuse and improbable.
And honestly I don't see why Neecher would specifically adress the blonde in that sentence.
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>>22078807
Smug faggot thinks hes smarter than he really is.
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>>22078858
I know you are but what am I?
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>>22078863
A smug faggot
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>>22078858
You are talking to two people anon.
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>>22078885
Stop being so serious btw.
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>>22078885
Theyre/you're both smug faggots
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>>22078892
You have 100% sucked a penis before
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>>22078754
more like its even attested in proto afro asiatic but not in indo european languages that were isolated from contact with semites
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>>22078255
The last Aryan died in 1945.
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>>22078992
Come to think of it. Germanic languages do have a different word for bull.
Huh...
When do you reckon the exchange occurred? The Caucasus? Greece?
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>>22079033
He killed hitler though so he died for a good cause.
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>>22079033
>>22079041
>aryans have 3% of north african genes
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satanic evil vampires, good riddance
>devil is roaring lion
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>>22078099
He was influenced by the aryanism trend of the time.
Little did he know Yamnaya folks were shitskinned cattle herders who couldn't even write and lived in huts. So the lion example is better and saved him from being declared a charlatan.
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>>22078107
>>22079061
Actually nevermind he really is talking about a lion, literally (a blond beast).
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>>22078185
Yamnaya were brown and levantines have had blue eyes since the Chalcolithic
If you refer to MENAs as aryans then this image is actually spot on lol. Anatolian farmers, Iranian farmers, Natufians/PPN farmers and so on all created civilization, and all had individuals with blue eyes since the Neolithic.
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>>22078099
imagine reading and taking this guy seriously
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>>22078287
The birth rates say otherwise
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>>22079061
yamnaya arent original aryans, theyre half breeds mixed with an east asian phenotype.
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>>22079109
If you're talking about ANE, they were mixed with east asians and their paternal lineage comes from south asia (P>R).
If you're talking about Neolithic Iranians then they were less mixed, true
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>>22079128
also ANE aren't indo-europeans. They're 25000 year old tundra mamooth hunters
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>>22079035
caucasus via iran_n
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>>22079035
German language is heavily influenced by a non-IE substratum so probably from there
If a word is attested in PIE but an IE language lacks it, then that IE language simply lost the PIE word
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>>22078099
Kaufman's notes are half interpolation, disregard.
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>>22078715
ancient cows were before friggin racemixers ruined everything.



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