Probably a normie author one sees posted on here often (I wouldn't know, I only come here when I am reading/have read a specific book and want to talk about it), but I just got done reading Post Office, and I was struck by just how... Comfy it was. It really was believable how one could waste 11 years just working this crappy job, getting written often, and coming back home and getting drunk, only for it to all start over again the next day. Bukowski says he lived a "crappy life," but it sounds a lot like my own in many ways, except I don't drink near as much.
basedkowski rape scene believable and true and relatable and comfy
I think the only people who get anything out of it are people who relate to him. I hate his writing and he doesn't even try to make a plot, so unless you see yourself in him there's basically no value to itI think he has a demographic he can hit at least, but his books are hard to like if you're not in it
If anyone brings him up apropos of nothing, I know they're incredibly insecure narcissists who're sheltered enough that his rain/shower take makes sense. And never talk to them again.
>>21802345I'm not sheltered. I've worked garbage jobs before. Been a bit of a drunk before. Been fat, been depressed. Been down and out, moved around a lot. Drifted through this life.
I think he writes well. very one-note, but so what? quit reading if that bothers you.
>>21802356There's more than one way to shelter oneself. Alcoholics tend to be hiding from something.
>>21802372Shut up retard, you're just projecting. >waaaaah everyone is so sheltered but me!Try living a real life and come back to me. Lazy little bitch, would get your skull smashed to paste if you were ever in a bar or somewhere men frequented.
>>21802393It's mostly just Bukowski fans
>>21802356You sound like a bukowski fan lol.
>>21802396>>21802397>samefagging after getting owned Many such cases. Have a hard time getting everything into one post little guy? Also thanks for not refuting anything I said, must've stung to get called out like that.
>>21802400>expects someone to 'refute' a baseless accusationt. Bukowski appreciatoralso not samefagging
>>21802406Not baseless in the slightest. You projected your insecurities about not having lived an interesting or brave life onto others, and then got smacked down. Then you refused to engage because you knew you were owned. As said before, many such cases.
>>21802418The lack of self-awareness really sells it
>>21802424>more projection This is actually making me laugh at this point lol
>>21802456As per usual, the Bukowski reader is brain damaged. Proceed with caution, young ones, not to follow this poor soul's path.
>>21802424>>21802400What are you guys arguing about? Which one of you even likes Bukowski and which doesn't? I'm trying to decide whose side Im on.
>>21802477A Bukowski fan is just losing his shit like always, no reason for concern.
>>21802477I'm OP. I'm for Bukowski, enjoy his work. Other guy seems to think that in order for you to enjoy Bukowski you have to be sheltered. I pointed out that to work shitty jobs, drift from place to place, and fight in random bars, and just all around have experiences from which to draw from for your novels, that one must be the opposite of sheltered. Then he just kept projecting and chimped. Pretty cringe t b h
>>21802400lmaobeing a drunk with a shitty job doesn't make you deep
he's not amazing, but I'd still entertain and enjoy a bukowskifag conversation several times more than a discussion over the latest most inane garbage pumped out by tartt or trooney or kwan, just speaking as someone who works with books
>>21802537>moves the goalposts The original point that y’all were trying to make was that people who read bukowski were sheltered. Once you got BTFO on that, you changed your tune and now it’s just that he’s not deep. Basically, cope and sneed.
>>21802984Yall? I didn't say anything about bukowski fans being sheltered I just said I can tell you are a bukowski fan
>>21802322Haven't finished reading any of his novels but they seem quite inferior to his better poems.
>>21803066He's a way better poet than a writer, I like his poetry but I can't stand his books
>>21802322loudly and publicly hating bukowski is boorishness on par with bragging about not liking mcdonalds
>>21803235maybe thirty years ago, now that's hating on DFW. turns out, Bukowski just sucks if you aren't a self-centred alkie
>>21803245Or if you lack critical thinking skills. Which you seem to lack as well.
>>21802322>Do you like BukowskiNo, I really don't like him as an author
>>21802322Used to read him a lot when I was in my late teens a long with Kerouac and Miller and other such cliche authors guys read at that age. He got better later on in his career, after he had his first success, when he dropped the act and even satirized his persona a bit like in Hollywood. I made the mistake of starting with Ham on Rye which is his best and most sincere work so everything of his I read after seemed to be shit. Overall you won't miss anything if you don't read him and you probably shouldn't read him beyond your early, early 20s. Ham on Rye is his only good book and even that isn't anything special in the grander scheme of literature. Ironically, later in life most of the people I met irl that actually read him were women, despite how 'problematic' he was. Also he seems to be one of those writers that guys that don't read like to namedrop when they want to pretend they do read, like Hemingway.
>>21802322He's vulgar and pretentious, but he also writes in a very fluid style and it is generally entertaining and actually quite funny at times. I dislike him as an author, but did enjoy Post Office and Ham on Rye, though I wont go out of my way to read more of him.
>>21804547He wrote thousands of poems and a lot of short stories. If you've only looked at his novels making a general judgement about him as a writer doesn't make much sense.
>>21804877I read Tales of Ordinary Madness as well as Love is a Dog from Hell and You Get So Alone… but I suppose you’d just counter that by saying that I haven’t read every single sentence he ever put to paper so my opinion on his writing is to be discarded regardless…
I read lots of his stuff when I was younger. Enjoyable but it gets very repetitive.
i liked his books as a kid, a year ago (im 25) i couldnt finish his book, it is just demoralising degeneracy
>>21802322lol he is the best pseud filter, you can see it every time he is mentioned, pseuds cannot help themselves and start to seethe for all retarded reasonshe was a good writer, take the ham on rye for example, it's a well written book