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It's so hard to read books in English as an ESL!
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>>17974584
Try reading young adult, until you get a better grasp of it.
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>>17974584
What language is your first
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now imagine reading books in Chinese as a CSL
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>>17974584
No it's not. Be more patient
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>>17974611
Filipino
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>>17974604
Im currently reading light novels
>>17974613
Its been 5 years>>17974623
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>>17974584
>>17974627
You'll never get better at it if you keep reading weebtrash, please reconsider your life choices
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>>17974584
I don't really have problem with that, but then again I read a lot, so I guess practice makes perfect.
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>>17974584
>>17974623
You sound like a qt woman.
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>>17974623
Why do you put sugar in spaghetti?
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>>17974584
No it's not.

Try not limiting yourself to literature though, it helps watching films and listening to music (with lyrics) too. Videogames are extremely useful as well, as you get a facsimile of the old "learning by involved necessity" context, like a lightweight version of getting dumped into a foreign country.
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>>17974655
I have no idea. We also put ketchup on spaghetti too
>>17974642
What do you consider good
>>17974654
What
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>>17974677
The only people on here who use ! in my experience are women
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>>17974674
Thsnks for the suggestion
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>>17974685
>>17974677
>>17974584
An entire race of twinks. Egad
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>>17974684
You mean trannies? There's no women here
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>>17974677
You should try it without the sugar.
>>17974684
I use ! all the time for little jokes. But I also imagine Norm Macdonald is saying it.
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>>17974700
There are some like butters
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>>17974677
What genres of light novels do you read? Look up some authors that explore these themes in greater depth and better prose.
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>>17974584
Just look up every unfamiliar word
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>>17974711
Adventure ones like Spice and Wolf, kino no tabi
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Ignore English. Scottish language is better.
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>>17974584
>>17974674
Slav here. I have no problem understanding movies, games or music, but when I read books in English after a few pages it turns out that I missed too much. It's too easy to drift away.
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>>17974754
This
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>>17974754
That doesn't sound like it has to do with you being ESL, more like you have a problem with focusing properly on a task that isn't as stimulating. Does the same issue appear when you read in your native tongue?
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>>17974754
No, this is an esl thing. I still have it too, the book has few words you don't know and you can't understand or grasp the meaning of regardless you being it in context. Those words accumulate as you go through without getting a dictionary and you get more and more disconnected.
>use dictionary
You do use a dictionary, but reading a book where every page you look up a word ruins the book for you.
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>>17974811
Looking up words is fun
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>>17974794
>Does the same issue appear when you read in your native tongue?
No, it doesn't. Well, it depends on the book.
>>17974817
And tedious
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>>17974817
it is fun but as you keep looking up words you kind of get burned out of the book at as I said disconnected from what book is about

words can be hard to understand on your first look, especially if you are reading something that is semi complicated, the word you are trying to understand might not exist in the languages you know. Where you need to look further than a dictionary, of course book using the words and you putting the meaning you got from the dictionary to that context helps, but there are still so many things that doesn't make sense about the word that you still doubt that you completely understand what book was saying there.

as you expend your vocabulary on literature, it gets easier, but you also tend to forget the words you haven't seen or used for a while, because you are not using that language in your daily life. So it does not get a whole lot easier.

tldr: as an esl, when you just first start reading literature, every book in English is written by William Faulkner to you. Where if you want to completely absorb the book as a native would, you need to read everything multiple times.

>>17974794
I can say the same, I have no issue reading native books, but english ones are a workout for me. Not as much as the first time I started, but still a workout
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>>17974754
I think that may be partly because (pure) literature provides no context. Even in music you can get "hints" based on the musical style
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>>17974840
Good luck on your further readings anon
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>>17974677
Lewd pits.
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>>17974627
>Its been 5 years
Same, but with Japanese instead. I felt demoralized about it for a while, but recently I've gotten motivated to really buckle down with my studies. Assuming your monolingual and learning a language that is very different from your native tongue, getting good enough to read literature in your target language is a 5 - 10 year process. There are exceptions to the rule of course (either people with natural talent for languages, or people with autism who can immerse themselves in the language non-stop). But for most people its a long journey
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>>17974735
>Spice and Wolf, kino no tabi
Those are pretty much the only 2 good light novels, so... nice
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Pisteng giatay. Paghikug nalang. way kaugmaon ang lingwaheng pilipino.
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>>17974584
I thought everyone knew English from birth because it's God's language.
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>>17975463
I agree to this, some people can immerse themselves so well into a language that they subconsciously learn to speak in that language.
I had this guy who answered to introduction questions perfectly in my french class, and he had never spoken any kind of french word from his mouth before going into that class. Only watched movies, videos etc. so much that he quit real life.
Whereas the rest of the class was still struggling to reach his level at the start, by the end of the whole year.
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imagine your own language has such a small variety of literature so you have to learn another one
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>>17974584
OP im Filipino too, just read more retard. Also stop consuming filipino media/content.
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>>17974684
Filipinos are one of the most effeminate asian men
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English really has too many words
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>>17974584
I am currently reading Dune and I grasp most of it. Don't know how difficult would it be with real literature
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I feel this man. It kind of distracts me to constantly look up words but I can't move on if I don't really get the context.
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>>17974584
Not really. If I can read fucking Chaucer you can, too.
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>>17974754
This is how I felt reading The Catcher in The Яye. So many boomer words.
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>>17974584
No it's not
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