After reading Borges, I can't find joy in reading anything else in Spanish. Nothing comes even close to his genius.
>>12187495His style in Spanish is epic yet quite concise. Truly one of a kind.
>not reading him in SpanishImagine being a Castellanolet lmaolaffin at amerigordos who can't into best language
>>12187495>>12187507Totally agree, Borges in Spanish is fantastic. I tried to read his English translations but they all sound too clinical because of the latinate vocab
>>12187495I agree, he was a genius, but why don't you try Saramago? He writes in a simple Spanish too and can be quite humorous.
>>12187531If Spanish were really as good as you claim it to be, why didthe poet who wrote BeowulfChaucerthe Pearl PoetSpenserShakespeareDonneMiltonLockemotherfucking based Alexander PopeHumethe American Founding FathersJane AustenWordsworthPercy Bysshe ShelleyColeridgeWhitmanMelvilleDickensHemingwayThe author of My Diary Desuall write in English instead of a "better" language like Spanish, if, according to you, it's significantly superior to the tongue of the Navy that set its nation's flag on the seven seas, that gave us many of the most important poets and prose writers who ever lived, and that made Man land on the moon?
>>12187685>excluding Joyce, Pound, and T.S. Eliot
>>12187731>putting those hacks on the same list as Pope
>>12187546Eh, he wrote in Portuguese, m8. Some of his translations in Spanish were done by his Spanish wife, though.
>>12187731Including Eliot would've been a mistake, though. He's nowhere near any of the other poets in the list.>the American Founding Fatherslol nobody cares about them amerifag. and it was german scientists the ones who put man on the moon.
>>12187782Oh yeah, sorry lol
I once got called an elitist lit major for citing Borges in an essay.
>>12187495Garcia Lorca is pretty great en mi opinión
>>12188116The profess of the class for which I wrote the essay.
>>12188125What subject? I assume not lit?
>>12188131Composition theory. So, yeah, no.
>>12188150Thats just sad that you had to learn composition from someone who dislikes people with interesting style. Sorry for your jealous professor friendo.
The Virgin Communist Galeano vs. the Chad Elitist Borges
>>12187546>Borges>Simple SpanishI don't know if it is because I am a Mexican saltamuros, but for me Borges' Spanish is anything but simple. It is full of Argentinisms and philosophical/mathematical terms.In most of the literary circles I've been Borges is considered a hard-to-read author.Saramago is pretty accessible, tho.
>>12188194I'm Mexican, too. Borges writes in simple Spanish, are you from Mexico? Or are you some "Mexican"-American fag from the US? His language is pretty clear and concise, not a single thing missing, the fact the pseuds can't undertand his themes and such is a different matter.
>>12188204shit, I'm from Mexico, yo.
>>12188106Are you from latin america? It's really common for people here (i'm talking as an argentinian), to relegate Borges because he was an "elitist". I sincerely don't know where that comes from. Maybe because the people to whom he writes are well lectured, since he's full of allegories to the history of ideas and literature.Overall your professor was probably jealous, because he could have never given classes in an uni without having a grad tittle. Like Borges did. He never graduated from uni, he didn't even go to uni, and gave lectures when he was an old man.
>>12187685lmao this deluded anglo.Borges Cervantes and Vallejo singlehandle any of those faggots. Keep crying.
>>12188177Borges was incel tho. Galeano was a cool guy with friends everywhere, pretty sure he always had abundant and fresh pussy.
>>12187685because they were born in english speaking countries you retarded pigfuck
>>12187495I’m from spain. Here’s my short story. >>441786601A white liberal cuck found cheap property and moved his wife and her two mixed children there. He went off to work one morning at the cock sucking factory, and received an emergency call once there. Disappointed at not getting right down to sucking cock, he groaned and took the call. It was the cops. It turns out a nigger broke into his house, killed the two children, and raped his wife. The white liberal cuck said the man probably dindu nuffin, and that he would like to meet him and shake his hand, and apologize for all the institutionalized racism he must suffer from. He also requested his wife not do a rape kit, since they most likely won’t be pressing charges. He then rushed home and sucked the nigger cum out of his wife’s butthole. The end.
>>12188106I was called out for being "too european" for citing Borges (I'm brazilian btw)
>>12187531Most Americans are Mexican. We can read Borges in Spanish just fine.
>>12187753>thinking pope is good jejejeje
>>12188504>Borges was incelThis is true. Yet his very few stories and poems dealing with love are exceptional. Fills me with feels, as I've always wanted to experience love but never have and like Borges I'm too much of an autist to make women see me as a potential love partner rather than a boring nerd.
>>12188473Peronia represents. We both know there is a strong political influence as to why he's considered Elite.
>>12188492Rulfo is god like, probably the best piece of writing ever put on paper, easily the best latin based text, but him alone could bitch slap the majority of faggy Anglo list
>>12187495Anyone have any recs for writers similar to Borges? I know he's very unique but anything with flashes of similiarity might do desu. I've already read all of his fictions and essays that have been translated to English, should I bother with looking at his (translated) poetry too?
>>12189302umm hard to think about it. If you liked the fictional biographics tryMarcel Shwab - Imaginary livesRoberto Bolano - la literatura nazi en america.I think Machado de Asis has something like that too, but I dont really know about him.
>>12187546>Borges>Bummed that he can't take up the mantle of his grandfather's martial glory>Writes hyper-masculine stories about knife fights, fraternal love, and murder.>Saramago>Literal communist >Novels filled with passive aggressive fuck men, women are the superior gender>Blindness: lol man bad, woman good>Death with Interruptions: randomly throws in line about male doctors looking at female nurses with "predatory stares". Doesn't add anything to the plot.>Too effete to use punctuationBorges
>>12188504>incel>married twiceI want this meme to end.
>>12189023Lmaoing at your taste beaner. Rulfo was inspired by Faulkner and was assblasted everytime someone compared him to Faulkner.
>>12189859his first marriage was in 1967, when he was blind and close to the 80 years old.
>>12189302I’ve always found Calvino to be similar in some ways, an interest in the mystical and mathematical, many stories that are almost like a narrative construction of a mathematical theorem.
>>12189876He was 68 then. Besides, he probably frequented prostitutes for most of his adult life. You know that used to be a pretty normal thing for men to do?
>>12189302Read Thomas de Quincy. Borges himself said that he was just a poor imitation of him or something like that. Not true, but i think is the "closest" thing you will ever find to Borges, nothing really comes anywhere close, maybe very ancient mythology.
>>12189816>>12189879>>12190032Thanks a lot amigos. Will check em out.
>>12189937Isn't Borges sexual life hotly debated? I've heard he died a virgin even.
>>12190032Not that guy but what exactly would you recommend from Quincey, to start with at least?
>>12189937His father sent him to a prostitute at early ageHe never mention sex on his tales (except that weird ass reverse rape woman story)Yeah just a weird nerd dude
>>12190032Typical argentine humbleness
>>12187753>>12187808kys my friends. please return to nonfiction asap.
>>12187495RulfoGarcía MárquezSábatoCortázarBioy CasaresNone of those ever reached peak Borges level but they got close enough at some point that they should be checked out
>>12188716No good brazil literature whatsoever and they dare to call out anyone for anything.
>>12190098>>12190098dunno, anything. just pick something up form him and read it. if you dig it, go for more. if not, then at least you gave it a shot
>>12187495>t. hasn't read Asturias
>>12189302Umberto Eco. If Borges were a novelist he'd be sort of like this.
>>12187543The only English translations that are okay are his collaborative translations with Norman Thomas Di Giovanni, which Borges said "surpassed his own works in Spanish" God, he's such a fucking troll, I love Borges