Am I a bigot if I think late dysphoria is most likely plausible deniability for actually being an agp sex freak? I've had it all of my life and the age of 5 as the standard makes sense since that's when a child starts thinking about their identity seriously. When someone says they got it at 15 I get serious agp wolf in sheeps clothing vibes and I don't trust them. Also I met someone who claimed such late dysphoria and I invited them round, they didn't dress fem when I tried to help them, they trumped all over the place and aggressively kissed me like a disgusting untamed man, I felt so sick afterwards and betrayed.
Am I a bigot if I think gender dysphoria doesn't exist and it's just a way to try to shut down the conversation if you feel people are trying to get you to admit why you really transitioned and you won't do it?
>>33610853kms
>>33610863You're wrong, it's real and completely non sexual for me outside of having the instinct of the female role in sex which isn't the basis of it. I had it long before I knew what sex was or even had any thoughts about it, someone claiming dysphoria late has a high probability of wearing gender dysphoria as a mask over sexual perversion.
>>33610884it seems sexual to meI think you just don't want to admit thatpart of being trans is about setting an identity that you think others will accept
>>33610853You’re 10000% right and if you ever said it non anonymously they would screech and call you a bigot and try ruin your life
>>33610853Jokes on you had early dysphoria since like 5 though I have one vague memory that kind of counts from when I was 3 where I was jealous other girls got to paint their nails and I was just given a marker that I "painted" my nails with at some weird church youth group.But then I'd developed mild AGP post transition weirdly. And it's my main motivation to eat enough food and exercise. Because imagining and seeing how it's improving my curves makes me a little horny so dopamine. Pre and early transition I didn't have it because I just wanted to look fem in a waif like cute non sexual way so want until I was an adult and started trying to be not anorexic where I got the AGP.
>>3361085315 isnt that late desu
>>33610897Your perception doesn't mean reality, exactly what I have mentioned in my post is the archetype which causes people like you to have those perceptions that's why it makes me angry.
>>33610897Of course being trans will always be mildly sexual seeming because sex is one of the 2 most gendered human activities the other being motherhood. So someone wanting to change their gender will have big effects on how they see themselves sexually even if the origin isn't sexual.
>>33610909you have no idea what my perceptions are>>33610920the origin is sexualpeople transition for sexual reasons
>>33610853lots of places encourage active repression lol. maybe u had a stronger will than me as a kid but i remember at that age being harassed and isolated for feminine behavior and i actively buried my feelings so i could be a "proper kid" and make my parents proud. this didn't blow up for me until later so maybe i am fake lolthe idea of having sex kinda grosses me out tho (not asexual tho, idk how to explain) and it's kinda alien of me to interpret other's actions and intentions as sexual. it's kind of interesting to me that's what you keep interpreting some trans people as but maybe normal people just always think about other people having fetishes idk
>>33610906I think it is if you consider that identity is well set at the age of 5, at 15 the difference is that sexuality is set so having it that late means that there is heavy evidence that it's actually sexual in nature since if it was an identity issue like in early onset dysphoria they would have had it all of their self aware life. It being perceived as a purely sexual issue is exactly the thing that prevents normal people from understanding and accepting us.People have a fair reason to be fearful of people with male identities living through a sexual fantasy and concealing it by pretending to be female identifying outside of a sexual rush, that is real wolf in sheep's clothing behaviour. If they were honest then it would be fine.
>>33610947Honestly my identity wasn't really set by 5 and in my psychology class the identity stage of development they said it's during adolescence
>>33610941Just because I had gender dysphoria at 5 it doesn't mean I didn't repress it, I grew up in a hypermasculine crime ridden area, if you had those feelings but repressed that's still dysphoria, it's when people first experience it after sexualisation where I get suspicious and I'm tired of pretending it isn't questionable.
>>33610936Yes I do, you have told me your perception, your perception involves claiming knowledge of other people's perception which is a wrong perception of my perception and other people who have dysphoria.
>>33610853i had dysphoria since 4-5 but definitely had agp from like 12 until 17 when i transitioned. what am i?
>>33610986i picked the second option across the board lets fucking goooooo
>>33610986Identity stage in adolescence does not mean when identity is set but expanded upon, most of the groundwork of fundamental identity is set very young and then the child is shaped on what they do with that understanding by how to word reacts to their identity, moulding yourself to fit in is done to survive. Adolescence is when meta-cognition of meta-cognition of identity starts to set in and that's where it can be tampered with to alter people's perception of you in more clever ways but that still is a fale model because that meta-cognition only increases with age. Fundamental identity is largely biological.
>>33610988i mean, if u know what repression is like then it doesn't seem that suspicious? like once i trained myself to feel bad about being feminine at home or school i could go on autopilot with it because the environment was pretty consistent on a day to day, with only certain events needing active repression (dances, crush liking other girls, random sports days? idk i kinda forgot what school is like for a kid lol but these felt strangely gendered idk). like it doesn't seem outrageous for someone to learn repression early, have it be ingrained behavior that they don't analyze for a long time/lose understanding this is something they learned. like a lot of behaviors work this way i feel?
>>33611012If you have identity issues and sexual issues then you're clearly an absolute tranny.
>>33611054I don't buy it really because every time I was myself and I got mistreated for it I still had the knowledge that I was myself and that society didn't accept me but I still expressed myself as myself whilst having just enough masculinity to not be pushed around. Forgetting about yourself is something that is complete nonsense, if you are actively building an external identity for defence you know that it's there, the only way that you wouldn't see a separation is if it wasn't defence at all and that you actually identified with that identity and if that's the case then it's not defence or an identity issues because dysphoria is feeling a female identity and suffocation around expressing it.
>>33611085i guess at that age we understood things differently? idk to me being told i was a boy was the same as being told i was hispanic, like they weren't things i innately felt i was but was taught i was and had to live with the consequences of that every day. i never understood that gender, unlike race/ethnicity, was supposed to map to what u felt like inside and didn't realize that others normally experienced that until later. i guess i was dumb and never thought to question any adult could have given me the wrong label, instead i internalized that everything i felt about who i liked, what i wanted to play with, or what i wanted to look like was wrong and bad
>>33610853i probably had early dysphoria, but it was all but beaten out of me. i was pretty sensitive, bookish, all nearly female friend group. i liked girl bands, i didnt like boyish things. i once lost friends because they made sort of sexual advances on me when i was like 10, couldnt bear to have that kind of thing with people i thought of as friends. i essentially got bullied for this by my family. when that got taken away from me by puberty i went numb, gained weight, and became an utter mess of a person. i watched a lot of futa porn when i eventually managed to make myself like porn instead of erotica as a teen. at 18 i found on 4chan trannies in a capacity that wasnt some abomination of surgery that existed only for porn, but i was a total mess and chose to rep as an AAP fem twink who couldnt manage more than the thinnest veneer of masculinity. i eventually trooned at 29 when i realised that i was lying to myself and letting my androphillia destroy my sense of self, and if i carried on this way id become a totally dysfunctional wreck of a person who just wants to crawl in a hole and die.good parents matter, and dysphoria isnt always conscious. i ripped my body hair out in the shower for years while insisting that i am and always will be male because i learned i had to be male before i knew i had other options in life. i sometimes wonder how id have turned out if id just had parents that were ok with me being girly.
>>33611136Considering aspects of yourself wrong doesn't mean that you don't consider yourself to have those aspects instead you would hate yourself for those aspects but it doesn't mean you would not see them.
>>33611136But I understand the feeling of cloudedness and confusion created by such self negativity. Deep down you clearly knew those aspects were there.
>>33611085Refusing to conform to social standards is not dysphoria, it's autism, I mean that literally.
>>33611197Okay? What does dysphoria have to do with not-conforming so social standards? You can have dysphoria and still conform through self hatred which pretty much everyone with dysphoria does.
>>33610853Everything changes about people when they age, why is someone's gender identity changing when they get older out of the question?
>>33611206It's called being in denial, you don't have the capacity to experience such complex phenomenon because you are a neurodivergent spastic.
>>33611206dysphoria means you feel pressured that you have to conform, and without transitioning, could not
>>33610853No you are right
>>33611250Right, yet I've failed clinical autism tests but you of course know better don't you Dr. Freud.
>>33611179i guess i don't disagree with this, like i guess i understood my internal self to be feminine (or at least have attributes inappropriate for a boy) but i didn't understand this to mean i was actually a girl or i gaslit myself into thinking i wasn't one anyway. like related i remember actively gaslighting myself into thinking i didn't like guys and remained with that "logical" understanding (idk how else to phrase this sry if that's unclear) despite obvious feelings there lmaowith enough dissociation i guess the "evidence" went away from me for a while and so i didn't have the means to figure this out until dysphoria broke thru later in life and provided that "evidence" for me again. that's why i consider myself someone who had late dysphoria but i developed the framework to dismiss attributes of myself that didn't align with society early in life. i guess my main point is that others can develop this same framework but forget it was something they learned kind of like how stuff like how people understand race and racism is learned early in life but most people don't remember learning about how they developed that understanding
>>33610853Same happened to me, I trusted them and tried to help but all i got in return was getting r*ped, abused and traumatized by a disgusting agp man
>>33611284Identifying with femininity is different from identifying as female.
>>33610853I can kinda see what you mean. I remember being like 4 and thinking I would be able to just choose at a certain age whether to grow into a man or woman. Was real sad when I found out that I would develop into a man. Of course, I got on HRT almost 8 years ago so I'm good now. But yeah, every late dysphoria tranner I've met has basically been a creepy guy (or an annoying woman in the case of late start pooners) in terms of personality.I find that some big red flags are:>"discovered" that they are trans past 25 (does not apply to those who already knew and were just repping)>does not mind being hondosed even if it's some crazy low dose like 2mgE and 50mgSp >very overtly sexual, steers conversations to sexual topics>down the porn addiction rabbit hole and frequently posting heinously gross shit (this isn't big on its own, but in tandem with the other factors...)>has had piv sex, which resulted in the fathering of offspring>unable to actually interact with cis women without making them feel uncomfortable/unsafe>"trans lesbian," might refer to onesself as """butch""">very little effort in transition (poor hair care, not keeping up with basic hygeine like getting rid of body/facial hair)>unable to discuss the experience of being trans without talking about sexual changes>threatens to sexually assault TERFs in twitter replies>makes being trans a big part of one's personality, won't shut the hell up about it>might call someone (usually a cis woman) a bigot for not wanting to have sex with themThere's probably more I'm just forgetting.
>>33611293um i guess that's true? if ur getting that i don't seem to differentiate which one i felt early in life that's because i just don't remember sry
when is dysphoria considered late? i kinda agree with the sentiment but I'm a little unsure. I had some small signs of dysphoria in early childhood but it wasn't really something I became consciously aware of until around 12-13 when puberty started, and then I became severely dysphoric. I'll be honest when I hear about someone who wasn't dysphoric until like past 30 i feel a little skeptical of how that's even possible, but i don't think I'd say the same for a 15 year old.Is dysphoria starting at the same time as puberty "late"? or is that normal?
>>33611302As someone who is constantly doubting myself and worrying about whether or not i'm trutrans reading this post was very reassuring knowing that i don't have a single one of these traits, except for "trans lesbian", which i feel extremely ashamed about
>>33611419That's nothing to be ashamed about, anon. I'm into women too. I only mentioned it as something that might fit in with the other thigs. On its own, one's sexual orientation isn't a red flag. The heart wants what the heart wants.
>>33611085youre seriously underestimating what the brain can do to protect against disruption to things it considers essential for survival. its why questioning peoples identity results in them lashing out, they cant help it.in my case i had patterns of self-sedating that kept me barely functional in a male capacity, and an existential need to be this constructed thing i called a man. when i stopped long enough to allow self-awareness i had this vague feeling of offness, like there was something really fucking important sat in the peripheral vision of my mind. i had weird dreams of isolation and being haunted, being in an old mansion in the middle of a black void, in which female ghosts would terrorize me. i was useless as a male in practice, couldnt find it in me to do anything masculine, and thought it was a mere failure of will. i had memories which i could recall but which recalled no meaning, no emotional connection, they were just flat events. theres other things as well, but theyre getting on for the more unhinged.imo, the only true test of troon or not is how well someone takes to masculinity. trannies cant be men, theyre always larping at it even if they refuse to admit it because theyre too proud and in love with the idea of men to admit theyre not one.
>>33611197i dont think thats really the case, and i think this is actually a really bad and harmful understanding of it. autists dont really feel social pressure. weirdos who dont fit into their roles do, but cant handle it.
>>33610853Why has it become the norm to dunk on autosexuals, like what’s all the kinkshaming about? It’s supposed to be hot that you find yourself attractive, why not own it?
>>33610884Oh shit for a second I thought this anon was saying gender dysphoria is actually perversion.Yeah this post basically. Gender dysphoria is... complicated
>>33610902No. We'd probably try to guide OP to considering if they're actually a trans woman.
>>33611754Exactly. They're not "AGP" they're just regular women.
>>33611936How can you speak for normal women like that and say that is their experience though? You don’t know it just sounds like a cope
honestly kinda checks out. I became dysphoric when I was like 12-13ish because puberty was starting and I hated what it was doing to me and I began to wish I was a girl. prior to that I was exposed to porn when I was like 9ish and I started sticking things in myself to imitate the women I saw, but it wasn't in a dysphoric way I think. so genuinely I wonder if that was when the agp brainstorms began and this sort of dysphoria just a manifestation of that
>>33611925AGP is not trans and I'm tired of pretending that it is.
>>33610947>People have a fair reason to be fearful of people with male identities living through a sexual fantasy and concealing it by pretending to be female identifying outside of a sexual rush, that is real wolf in sheep's clothing behaviour.Not a thing. Made up for Hollywood. Fuck off Rowling.> If they were honest then it would be fine.We can't oten be honest because when we're honest that we are transgender women we get harassed, attacked, or shamed. Not passing is a legitimate risk.
>>33611936OP here, there's nothing wrong with sexuality but I don't appreciate AGPs pretending to have dysphoria when they do not, and in my instance I've seen it used on me in a rapey malevolent way, I have all the reason to be judgemental and questioning of someone saying one thing and acting another. I would not care if they just identified honestly with having an AGP kink but they disguise themselves as having the identity issues that trans women have and as being the same despite it being a sexual perversion which is reasonably something to be fearful of. Especially when they are representing us in that way and creating a massively negative image of us which causes us harm. AGP wolves in dysphoria clothing are the true enemies of trans women.
>>33611990Ah yes and I wasn't bait and switched? I think a true measure of people like you that you are male in nature is the lack of care of the safety of women in trade for amab freedom.
>>33611951I wasn't speaking for "normal women", I was spoken of people in general. It is normal and common for men, women, and whatever else to check themselves out. When someone feels they look sexy, they often also feel sexy. This is normal and nothing to be ashamed of.Many men are obsessed with their penis and taking pictures of their penises and sharing those pictures in sexual ways. Same with women showing themselves off. We associate looking good to ourselves with sex.
>>33611951one time i told a cis woman about what "agp" means and how i have a little bit of it and how ashamed of myself it makes me feel and she told me that i was being ridiculous and that she thought SHE would have "agp" based off my description of it. She said that shethought that the feelings I was describing were extremely common and normal among cis women.
>>33612010Anon, how do you know AGP is a thing when almost no one ever identifies as AGP?
>>33612062experience with lots of real women, feminine amabs and evidently agp sex freaks.
>>33612093That's not an answer.
>>33612112Why are you denying the existence of agp it’s obviously true that it exists in one form or another. The distinctions op is talking about can be clearly observed between different types of trannys
>>33612135OK let's suppose for a second that AGP is real and not some bullshit made up by white cishet men who recognized some general clusters of traits, then completely ignored what anyone in those clusters actually said about their own experiences and made manipulative shitty experiences just to jerk off to himself harder than he thinks trans people do.AGP is real. And? How does it pose a risk? Because people who are attracted to women and could potentially abuse them are in their spaces? What about butch lesbians then? What about trans men that like women who probably got used to going into women's spaces and continued to do so for at least a while, but are taking roids that make them much like men?AGP isn't real. Blanchard found only some vague correlations that aren't set in stone at all. Many people diverge wildly from cluster A and cluster B. It is not uncommon to find a trans woman who seems to fall into one cluster for their orientation, but then starts dating the other gender exclusively for example.It's transphobic hogwash.
If dysphoria is a strong desire to be opposite sex, then AGP is just sexualized version of that, no?
>>33612224>>33612135And just to be clear, AGP is not real. Its normal to... you know what fuck it.Why am I doing this?Fuck this. I hate this website.
>>33612228dysphoria isn't desire, it's the opposite. it's disgust, it's reuplsion. gender dysphoria isn't wanting to be the other gender, it's being horrified by your own body and it's primary and secondary sex characteristics. I kind of feel like Dysphoria and AGP are opposites in this way. Dysphoria is the hatred of your current gender and AGP is the desire to be the other gender. I think that virtually every trans person has some combination of both, but dysphoria usually does a lot more to motivate someone to transition
>>33610853I’ll be serious w youYes, you are correct and right.But what does it matter? You can’t change their nature. They will always be men with a sexual interest in being women. You can make them AWARE of this, but they’ll still be exactly the same: men coded behavior coming from someone with a sexual founded one puberty desire to become a woman.What’s the point of making them aware?? Just say to them “yeah women can be sexually agressive pick up artists, of course you’re still heckin valid” yea they don’t come across as women, but at least they’re happy what more you want?TLDR, you’re hsts don’t get mad at the agps for not being hsts
>>33612298 continuedAlso this topic is weird because inevitably an AGP will overshare and go “you lucky little fuck, fuck you. I would have transitioned if my dad didn’t beat the ever loving fuck out of me every time I turned on the tv!!!!”Which, okay, our dads weren’t exactly perfect, but I get what they’re saying, “I’m having an anxious identity crisis please stop talking”Which,,,,,,,, yeah some AGPs had a rocky childhood, doesn’t mean we share any similarities at all
>>33612284From DSM5 dysphoria is:A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and primary and/or secondary sex characteristics (or in young adolescents, the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)A strong desire to be rid of one’s primary and/or secondary sex characteristics because of a marked incongruence with one’s experienced/expressed gender (or in young adolescents, a desire to prevent the development of the anticipated secondary sex characteristics)A strong desire for the primary and/or secondary sex characteristics of the other genderA strong desire to be of the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender)A strong desire to be treated as the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender)A strong conviction that one has the typical feelings and reactions of the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one’s assigned gender)You see they use word desire? I do agree negative feelings are more motivating towards transition than positive feelings.
>>33612224Wanting to protect real gender dysphoria experience trans women from having their spaces invaded by sex freaks, having their reputation destroyed in the eyes of normal people and making them isolated and more fearful to be themselves as a result and scared to be associated with such behaviour is transphobic?No, it's rapephobic, people like you always point the finger at normal people for our issues in normal society it's never the behaviour of people creating a bad image, always cis women and cis men, well guess what, I don't buy it and I don't take people like you seriously. No cis woman acts like that unless she is an untouchable lunatic so any "transgirl" acting like you is instantly deleted from my perception of them as female, they become beasts like men.trans groups isolated and in hatred of cis women is also a massive red flag, you cannot claim to be in the same category as normal women despite having flawed biological reality if you are separatist and hate them, you are trans-agp-rainbow-rape-freak at most.
>>33612298Well then they should be honest instead of invading our image and masquerading as us making out lives harder in the process.
>>33612284Oh this is an interesting take. The balance of the two leading to different ages of transition etc
>>33612349They can’t. For some reason they (AGPs) compare themselves to us (hsts) and feel a massive wave of shame. They instinctively turn away from the knowledge and lash out. The emotions are too overwhelming to even engage with the topic. See >>33611543. If you kept pushing her, she’ll probably cut herself and post a picture and go “fuck this board”. The fact you asked for a sewing machine for your fourth Christmas makes her feel insecure she asked for legos, so she lies and says “no I only played with Barbie’s!!!!” And at that point no one can be honest with each other.They’re not in a space to think logically about our needs. They’re panicking they’re not as valid as we are. We’re just theater kid dorks who couldn’t stop singing show tunes constantly. We’re not more valid than they are. But we are different.But like, AGPs love each other and validate each other’s sexuality, and HSTSs love and support each other, and just cuz we’re different doesn’t mean we can’t be friends
>>33612471T. Dylan mulvaney lookalike with agp best friend
>>33612471I don't care about people being AGP, it's the dishonesty and the sacrifice of our reputation in order to protect themselves from ridicule.
>>33610853Not at all. You're just good at pattern recognition.
Catching onto one's dysphoria late is fineSome people are like, too autistic and clueless to be aware of how they're perceived by others or how they relate to gender until they're in their teensOthers are like, nonbinaryish or something and are more driven by not wanting to be men than they are by wanting to be women and it takes them until the onset of puberty to realize just how uncomfortable their body makes themAnd older people are likeForced to repress under threat of violenceSome people aren't even aware that changing gender is a possibility until a bit later, not everyone is fortunate enough to grow up in the first world with agnostic parents and high-speed internet surrounded by awareness of trans people's experiences"Dysphoria" probably exists in some form in anyone who wants to transition before they become aware of it, it just takes some people a while to go "oh, that's why I felt sad all the time for seemingly no reason"
>>33610853children want to be a shark or an astronaut as a kid. why do you think they have a firm grasp on identity? lmao
>>33610863I trooned because im a roman catholic and believe homosexuality is wrong. I am a homosexual transexual and im tired of pretending that this isnt the reason why homosexual men troon.
>>33612637Also this yeah lol
>>33610853yea this is true if u didnt have dyphsoria before 10 your an agp freak desu.
>>33612637More AGPs with rage join the thread.
No cis person cares at all. Normal people have no idea about any of this psycho shit. Crab bucket mentality.
>>33612332Why everyone ignored this? AGP is a strong desire to be of the other gender, therefore inherently dysphoric.
>>33610853No I probably deserve it. I'm either an total sex freak (remains to be seen ig since I'm still a virgin) or I'm faketrans and a trender. I manmode and am not at all naturally fem and idk I don't have the money to buys fem clothes rn. So yeah hate me all you want cuz I probably deserve it I'm a freak.>Got """""""dysphoria""""""" at age 16 after trying to crossdress and looking like such an agp honbeast freak I got """""""dysphoria""""""" and tried to repress after and gave recently given up
>>33612950god I hate myself why couldn't I just be trutrans or a normal female or a normal male like I was the first 16 years of my life. Why did I have to turn into such a fucking freak because of a few pictures on the internet of cute feminine males made me want to also try present like that fucking kill me
>>33612950Just accept yourself that was my point there's no need to pretend to not be AGP, maybe get some sex and closeness too, that would probably take the edge off of the excessive horniness and give you time to reflect on what you want.
>>33610853Some people don't know what it is until later. Some people don't have the opportunity to even really reflect on it until later. For some people, the degree of it isn't the same as others. There's a plethora of reasons for it OP, open your mind a little.
>>33613007I'm not excessively horny I think I'm a normal amount of horny for a male at least. I just assume I am a freak and that will be revealed when I finally transition or if I ever have sex. Also idk it's kinda hard to take "I am changing and ruining entire lifestyle for a fetish and also iwnbaw" and just roll with it, I do not want to be like this l, yet I clearly am.
>>33613067>I do not want to be like this l, yet I clearly am This is me. I read posts here and try to convince myself I am different. But I am not. I am just scared to do the same thing.
>>33612653Why do you believe homosexuality is wrong?
>>33613300Internalized homophobia lmao bro really transitioned out of shame not dysphoria
>>33610853dysphoria since my first memory, really began to become an issue in my mind alot from about 8, i was terrified i would be locked or beaten up if i told anyone
>>33613534I know you're trutrans
>>33610897>it seems sexual to me>part of being trans is about setting an identity that you think others will accepthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrm8F1S0TFE
>>33613234Yeah, I've genuinely got absolutely nothing going for me in terms of trooning. I just wish I could be trutrans and not some fetishist cuz fetishes are gross and mines not even like strong enough to be hot and shit. Like it's enough for me to notice and feel awful, not enough to actually feel any kind of sexual satisfaction
>>33610853i got my dysphoria at around 13 and actively acted girly my entire childhood before that, guess it kicked in when gender separation was more relevant. I can see why you would think some people are agp for being late but sometimes thats just when it hits for people.
>>33612471that is a fucking dumb, ass pull of a take. >i have X experience>ur lying because insecurity lol
>>33610853Any time someone tells me about when they "discovered they were trans," I instantly regard them as faketrans, especially when they made this "discovery" with the help of some stereotypical piece of media (I've literally had ppl tell me Drag Race (lol) and Madoka (lmao) "cracked their egg"s in their late twenties). I don't give a shit when you actually transitioned, everyone's circumstances are different, but if you haven't known something was wrong between the inside and outside of you as long as you could think, you're not the same thing I am. I'll still affirm you, I'll still support you, I'll still be your friend bc any human companionship on this shithole planet is precious, but we will never be the same.