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>QOTT: Who's your favorite historical autogynephile/ eonist?

Previous bread: >>33549388

>AGP questions and answers
>Thoughts and feelings / emotions
>Help, advice, guidance
>Be cozy and chill out

>What is AGP?
Autogynephilia, from Greek αὐτό- ("self"), γυνή ("woman") and φιλία ("love")
Broadly, arousal to the thought of being a woman. It can take many forms - being aroused at imagining or seeing yourself with a female body, dressing in clothes that make you appear feminine, acting in stereotypical "feminine" ways, or others.

>Isn't AGP just discredited pseudoscience?
No, you might be thinking of Blanchard's Typology, which includes the idea of AGP. Regardless of whether or not you agree with Blanchard's ideas, AGP is very real to the people who experience it.

>I'm AGP, does this mean I'm not trans?
No, you can be AGP and trans.

>Aren't you all just trannies in denial?
Some people with AGP will go on to transition, while others are content with incorporating it into their sex life or simply the occasional indulgence. It varies greatly in intensity. If AGP consumes a lot of your mental energy or causes you lots of distress, it is probably worth asking more questions.

Resources:

>Why Gender Matters, the Emerging Science of Sex Differences
https://ia802804.us.archive.org/30/items/LeonardSaxWhyGenderMatters/Leonard%20Sax%20-%20Why%20Gender%20Matters.pdf#page171

>The Gender Variant Phenomenon:
https://www.avitale.com/essays/a-developmental-review

Compilation of AGP books and studies: https://pastebin.com/dRQvi2K7 (embed)
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https://youtu.be/EG757bPPXZQ?si=PQBev8kUAwwa25Ys
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>>33575367
I wish I was a 19th century noblewoman
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>>33575401
Same. It's funny that this ancestor of mine was a tomboy.
Maybe the AGAMP genes run through us.
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>>33575401
>>33575416
Sound's boring.
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>>33575498
>Can pester servants
>Can wear beautiful dresses
>Can own any firearm because they're all still legal
>Can write interesting books that will be known for centuries to come
>No HRT, no risk of ending up being FTM and detrooning (big fear of mine)
>Can be a lesbian, it'll pass for close kinship or whatever
>Can travel the world
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William Sharp (Fiona McLeod) is probably my favorite.
I need to buy the biography.
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>>33575560
>Of all the themes and influences Alaya traces so skillfully, she explores the question of sexual identity less than she does the others, although she does speculate about the effect on Sharp of a "father [who] encouraged him in every manly physical exercise and no doubt looked upon a literary career as smacking of the effete" and does quote from a letter Sharp wrote (November 20, 1880) affirming the depth of his affection to a friend, John Elder: "Don't despise me when I say that in some things I am more a woman than a man" (Alaya, p. 27; quoted from Memoir, I, 5 1 5 ). Alaya also suggests in passing that "cultural inhibition" led Sharp to suppress any dramatization in his work of the "sexual tensions within himself" (p. 112).
She was so one of us.
Clearly meta-attracted too lol.
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>In 1896, Sharp explained to his wife that it was to Mrs. Rinder that "'I owe my development as "Fiona Macleod"
Sharp literally got sissified by a woman lol
>though in a sense of course that began long before I knew her and indeed while I was still a child
Childhood onset AGP lol
>he [Sharp] had been somewhere abroad when he saw the sideral body of Fiona enter the room as a beautiful young man, and became aware that he was a woman to the spiritual sight. She lay with him, he said, as a man with a woman, and for days afterwards his breasts swelled so that he had almost the physical likeness of a woman.
Bruh he literally had visions/ dream of his female OC TGing him and fucking him.
>occurring on the shores of Lake Nemi, not far from Rome, a lake known (aptly, for the doubling motif) as "the Mirror of Diana" and sacred to Diana's worship. Though Sharp's account to Ernest Rhys seems intended to support Fiona's actual existence, his portraying himself as Actreon implies his dividing himself, his being torn apart
AHAHAHAAHH
So I wasn't the only eonist fascinated bu the acteon myth?
Meaning he had a fascination for TF.
This is actually hilarious.
What causes all of us to be so similar?
>here he was probably stimulated by the inuits who dressed and raised comely sons as girls, and sold them to wealthy men as brides
HAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
HE EVEN HAD A FEMINIZATION FETISH THIS IS TOO GOOD
>As his biographers point out, the dualities and tensions in Sharp had been present from early in his life. Indeed, the years leading up to the writing of "Ariadne in Naxos" and "Beatrice" are well worth examining, for both works reflect the pressures in Sharp's life, pressures which were to grow and fester-his sense of having within him two personalities (one male, heroic, adventuresome, and self-ish, the other female, domestic, dreamy, and victimized) and his struggles against convention.
It's making me a bit emotional relating so much.
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stop posting this disgusting pic
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>>33576048
Which?
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>>33575817
>here he was probably stimulated by the inuits who dressed and raised comely sons as girls, and sold them to wealthy men as brides

Giwtwm
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>>33576233
Sadly I was never comely, I was always masculine, so it wouldn't have happened.
This is clearly just HSTS behavior desu, feminizing effeminate young males and using them as sexual objects sicne they wouldn't be useful as men.
It's funny that even back then AGPs envied HSTSs (Sharp was tall and fairly masculine as a child so he would not have been one of them either).
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Doing anything that inconveniences me makes me want to sudoku
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>>33575306
>how often do you feel like a parasite leeching of everyone around you? fuck, agp getting worse in late teens somehow made me EVEN worse
that's a normal feeling, just get a job anon
>>33575367
>QOTT
i'm not well read enough to determine that
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transhumanism when
biopunk when

>>33575498
modern times are boring too
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>>33576885
HRT: transhuman biohacking.
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>>33576912
yeah but its all done in an apt prison cell with friends-over-wire because we cant into irl
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>>33576885
I'm sure there's no better time in history to be a women than nowadays
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>>33577104
>I'm sure there's no better time in history to be a women than nowadays
pic mostly unrelated but hilarious nonetheless
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to add to my ever growing cd stash problem i got my first pair of boots recently seeing it's winter and all
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>>33576559
same
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>>33577255
I don't want to see being a woman as easy mode or privileged because it makes me hate women and it makes me hate the idea of becoming one because it sounds like I'm doing it to get an advantage.
But it's not true anyway, I'd say women and men are pretty much equivalent.
As for lesbians they had to deal with unaccepting families, difficulties finding mates, a lot of bullying from other girls in teenagehood etc.
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>>33577255
Holy based.
Lesbians should have it made but femmebrain ruins it. Oh well.
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>>33577347
Being a transbian is best.
I think women have to deal with tremendous drama from female socialization and education.
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I wish I were trans and dysphoric and wanted to be a woman.
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>>33577450
occam's razor: perhaps you are dysphoric and feeling imposter syndrome
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>>33577462
Maybe. I am hearing women and men outside, mostly women, and don't know whether I want to be them.
Do I want to? How would I feel of I had a female voice?
Adding to it they sound normie.
Would I still want to be them? Are all women normie? Wouldn't being a woman make me one? Wouldn't I be taken less seriously if I had such a voice? But do I even like my voice? Or do I feel dysphoric about it? Why didn't I ask myself these questions before?
Etc etc etc.
I wish I could just have a clear answer.
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>>33577500
OCD
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>>33577515
Possibly. Probably. But it's making me nauseous. I just don't know. All I know is deep down I would want to be really trans.
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>>33577535
>deep down I would want to be really trans.
Why? I don't mean that it's bad or stupid, I'm just curious about the exact reason
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I am literally crying because I can't tell whether I really want to be a woman.
Adults my age are marrying, working etc and I cry over not knowing whether I really want a woman's voice or not.
It's all so tiresome.
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>>33577362
Transbians are worse than cis-les. They all become straight or ace. Very few living the dream of being a hot chick with other hot chicks.
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>>33577670
>They all become straight or ace.
It's the opposite.
Transbians tend to go meta attraction first, Date a couple of guys, realize they can't really pair bond, and go full transbians (sometimes still identifying as bi because being a full on transbian has bad rep).
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I have Chuck Berry at full volume and my head under the blanket in order not to hear the girls outside.
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I WISH I WERE TRANS.
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>>33577316
oh no i agree, i just posted that because you reminded me of that
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>>33578148
Answer me >>33577559
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I feel like a lot of my issues come from ingrained femphobia honestly. I look down on feminity a lot and I wish I could cure myself from that.
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>>33578306
For some reason I missed your post.
Idk. I just feel like it's right for me to desire it? It just feels right.
Also I like the idea of looking like a woman I think? It's comfy. And vice versa. But like. I also have some misogyny too.
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I looked at myself half naked in the mirror and just started laughing hysterically at the grotesque abomination. A man with longish hair and breasts. This is too funny.
Even if I am not trans, even if I did it for nothing, even if I Kms, at least I brought some needed amusement on this earth.
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>>33577235
Awww a little kitten
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>>33577255
Lost me in "gay".
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>>33578454
Your skin and hair are much better than before.

You don't look like a woman but you are starting to look androgynous, or at least a non-masculine man.

Don't stop hrt and get laser soon, seriously, I don't know why you haven't done it yet
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I wore pantyhose under my skinny jeans today. The weather here is perfect for it.
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>>33578500
I haven't gotten laser half because I am ashamed and afraid of going because they'll see a masc man wanting to get laser and it's ridiculous, and half because I would like to maybe get the papers done to have the long time affliction papers of the sécurité sociale and therefore have laser partly reimbursed which would be nice.
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>>33578560
Lmao literally no one cares. And I don't even think that laser is something unconventional for a man. At most something gay or metrosexual.
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>>33578638
I'll try to at least have laser done for my best friend's wedding in late July.
I will go in manmode ofc but it'd be nice to have laser then and look less masculine.
It'll be fully of his military colleagues so at least I won't be too masculine compared to average.
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>>33573882
sovl

>>33578548
this kinda kills the point
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>>33576912
>biohacking
cringy word desu, everything that has "h*cker" in it is cringe

>>33577104
>poverty exists
>non-fixable genetics exists
>artificial wombs don't exist yet
bruh
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>>33578810
>poverty exists
>non-fixable genetics exists
>artificial wombs don't exist yet
Yeah those are definitely good reasons why this is not in fact the best time to be a woman so far
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>>33578660
It takes a while to have an impact better get started asap
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>tfw tranny digit ratio but big man hands
one of the lords many jokes played at my expense. i hope he’s entertained at least.
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>>33578775
it doesn't kill the point... what do you mean...
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I just cant get over the fact that i am just a cis straight male. I know I am not trans because I coulr just stop transitioning. I am clearly a cis male with a agp problem. This should be able to be overcome. I know that this is a mistake. How do i convince myself of that.
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>>33575367
Actual conversation I had with a group of transwomen today

> Me: I want to hang out with transvestites before they disappear

> Older Transwoman: ... why ... do you want to do that?

> Me: You know, I find myself relating to the mental process of transvestives.

> Older Transwoman: ... I don't think you will need to worry about ... transvestites disappearing

[5 minutes later]

> Older Transwoman to another older transwoman: Some people who transitioned later in life have a hard time passing and looking the way they want. ... But others [pointing at me] transitioned young and have fantastic faces and don't know what they have.

I was basically being called a youngshit who would just be out enjoying my life instead of worrying about the inner lives of transvestites lol
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i let a 62 year old man fuck me while i wore lingerie because i tought i liked being submissive to older men. it felt weird and now i am conflicted about the whole thing. i liked the anal sex(and i liked sucking dick) but i didnt like that a guy was fucking me. is it pure AGP or am i bi? i do find some men attractive but i only date girls. im really unsure about my sexuality
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>>33581367
…bruh
>>33581272
do whatever you want anon, happy that you pass well though. As a late shit (30) it’s true that younger transitioning passwords are a cognitohazard but that’s on us to deal with, it’s not your problem and you can spend your life however you want
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>>33581435
*passoids
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>>33581367
I want to fuck an old guy too (although 62 is too old for me, I think somewhere between 40-50).

I think this is my last chance to be truly appreciated by a man. Which is perhaps the origin of all my AGP. I always wanted to do to men what women do to me.

I don't think I'll regret it. I've let a guy fuck me before and I enjoyed the experience. I miss sucking dick too.
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>>33581435
>>33581449
when i say 62 its not a wrinkly old guy. its a strong looking guy that worked as a fisherman that doesnt drink or smoke, gray hair and muscly. not near death as i would imagine a 62 year old would look.
>I think this is my last chance to be truly appreciated by a man. Which is perhaps the origin of all my AGP.
might be the case for me aswell. the moans and the "good boy" things he said while i sucked his cock kinda made me realize that
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>>33581562
I got called “good boy” once and it killed my mood fr
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>>33581581
i get that, it feels weird when you deep down feel straight. if you got called "good girl" would that kill the mood aswell?
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>>33581622
Just a reminder I’m a dood so I probably would have preferred that lol
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>>33581785
to be honest i would have liked that more. or sissy, but that might just be me
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Whoever of you drew this, thanks for the laugh, kek
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Is this real?
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>>33582423
No most of the time they sudoku when it never climbs again
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>>33581840
wait I think i confused you with my illiteracy
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My agp is mostly autosexual I think…I really only care to be sexual with a long term partner I hate random hookups I didn’t even like them pretroon with women in their early 20s
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>>33582486
Mine started and ended at boy mode without any rise or fall
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Anyone else noticed the term "trap" stopped being used online and was replaced by "femboy"?
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>>33583053
The tranny hivemind decided trap was "offensive" and the term fell out of use
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I feel so jealous of trans people.
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>>33583628
you mean passoids
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>>33583801
I mean actual trans people, not faketrans Untermenschen like me.
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>>33583845
oh i see it’s a frenchie post.
contact your shrink you need help to get better trust me take care of your mental illnesses they don’t improve with age try to learn to manage them while you’re still young
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>>33583891
The issue is, my shrink knows nothing about trans people so I don't think he can help me.
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>>33583891
not frenchie but if i went to the shrink they wouldnt let me have my hrt, last time i was institutionalized as a teenager they deliberately tried to break me mentally and taunted me saying they'd keep me for longer if i gave in.
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>>33583912
none of the cis ones do really even ones in us liberal cities. What you really want to look for is someone patient and empathetic who will try and understand it without being prescriptive as to what you should do about it
>>33583913
…what?! what country do you live in anon
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>>33583970
america
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>>33583970
I'll try. My dad says his mistress asked her shrink and she said one of her friends had a tranny son who went to a shrink who was very good.
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>>33584011
you don’t need to go to a shrink for hrt there’s multiple options for informed consent. If you’re in a flyover or dixiememe, leave
>>33584077
good you have a lead. grab the opportunities presented to you. tick, tock.
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ARRRRRRGGGGH
I'm drunk and horny!
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>>33584129
>leave
its not as easy as just "leave", blue states are expensive and im a poor as fuck highschool dropout neet. im saying if i went to a shrink ward they wouldn't let me have my HRT since im DIY and i dont want to deal with the hassle of having to fight for a semi-acceptable dose.
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>>33584163
you must make extra money by prostituting.
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>>33584163
oh nm, understood. without employer health ins a psychologist is probably not tenable. would you consider the vcc route to a college degree so you can get improve your financial situation? no hs diploma needed.
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>>33584224
*cc route ie community
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>>33575367
I came to this thread to summon Ava
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>>33584224
>>33584230
maybe, i got my ged from a community college, i'd rather move out first though and go to a different one since people here still recognize me
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AHAHAHHHAHA
OMG
William Sharp had a pregnancy fetish and wanted to be a mother.
>The theme of "Motherhood" obviously attracted Sharp powerfully: "the idea took hold of me, enthralled me with its beauty and significance, possessed me till I gave it forth again in artistic expression."
>The connections to Ariadne are not far to seek, for Ariadne became venerated as a goddess whose worship included a young man dressing as a woman and mimicking childbirth.
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>Yet the sympathy engendered in "Ariadne in Naxos" is ultimately all directed at the plight of Ariadne, and her death is much lamented. In terms of Sharp's biography, indeed, Ariadne's death seems only temporary, more a suspension; when Fiona Macleod is born, the classical heroine is resurrected. The tension in the choice seems less resolved than postponed, less a healing than a concealing and a violation
He even tried to kill the "girl inside" in his 20s.
It's crazy how we all naturally evolve toward the same milestones on our own.
We are literally a specific race.
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>>33584252
fair enough. I know college gets shat on but it’s a pretty good investment if you only have to pay 2 years in state tuition for a degree after your associates
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>>33584241
i block your summoning ritual with a passoid-binding seal
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Sometimes I feel bad when I take my makeup off and feel less cute and more manly but then I rembered that cis women have the exact same problem with some prettiness washing off. I guess the main difference is I still have faint beard shadow I have to cover because I need more hair removal sessions and it's a bigger shock when I take mine off.
>>33583628
>I feel so jealous of trans people.
Why? Like, if you wish you were a girl (trans girl) does that kind of mean you're trans???
>>33583053
I liked trap better, femboy bothers me for some reason
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>By the time of the completion of this novel, Sharp had already 'become' Fiona Macleod, a woman, and not a woman merely, but a Scot, restored to all the native ties to which Sharp had, in effect, made himself an alien. It was 'she,' of course, that private, imaginative self of William Sharp, who was indeed the 'illegitimate' child of Sharp's father, betrayed, despised, and humiliated, but eventually transcending her suffering. The story thence becomes a fable, delineating the entire course of Sharp's psychological life.
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Herein have we all gifts that are for men,
Life, love, song, pleasure, wine and fruits, fair lands,
And desert tracts for sport, and bright blue waves
Whereon to voyage 'mongst the Cyclades,
But in the cities, in thine own fair town
Are envy, malice, spite, and troublous feuds
Dissensions with strange peoples and the wrath
Of gods neglected. In N axos let us found
A kingdom by the sea, an island realm
Whereof we twain shall reign as king and queen,
And after us our children.

EONIA IS CALLING
RETVRN
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>In her "Afterword" to Mona Caird's The Daughters of Danaus, Gullette captures the tone of the enlightened and feminist circles the Sharps were moving in during the 1880' s and 1890' s, traces the continuing influence of Caird, and suggests that Sharp's adopting a woman's name in 1894 reflects "a kind of gender envy not unnatural in that crowd and in that year".
She's literally me.
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Was she one of us?
Btw I remember watching a documentary on the plan the allies had made to estrogenize Hitler secretely to make him less aggressive when I was like 14 and being fascinated.
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>>33584529
>Although the research on sex hormones was still in its infancy, the thought was that estrogen could help curb Hitler’s aggressive tendencies and make him more like his sister Paula, who was a ‘mild-mannered’ secretary.
GOD I WISH THAT WERE ME
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Did you know that Henry Murray, the man who concluded that Hitler was a feminine person, and contributed to the planned covert OPs of feminizing Hitler by planting estrogen into his food to make him a "demure secretary like his sister", also personally conducted the MK Ultra experiments on Ted Kaczynski, who turned out AGP, and blamed said experiments for his issues?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Murray
This is some deep lore, did this glowie try to weaponize autogynephilia?
He was also close to Jung, who's psychoanalytical theory explains AGP with the concept of anima.
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>>33584694
I'm pretty sure agp can be induced in every men.
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>>33584694
>did this glowie try to weaponize autogynephilia?
The real question is, are they still doing it?
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>>33578454
Don't post your tits on a blue board
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>>33585554
Imagine calling mild gyno "tits".
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>>33585557
You will have to buy a bra when your tit pics start getting deleted ok?
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>>33585579
Alright lol
Trying to eat more to accelerate the growth.
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>>33584328
>femboy bothers me for some reason
Same desu
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>>33585604
>>33585554
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>>33585604
No trust me my body looks way more masc after gaining weight it all went to my belly and fuck all to my tits ass or hips so any curves I had from my hips and thin waist have been flattened out with fat and now I just look like a brick ;_;

My face looks a bit nicer but fuck my body is fucking ruined now
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>>33585715
I mean you can just lose it?
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>>33585767
I will but it's alot harder to lose weight with t in the low female range and e2 levels that are on the to high side that I can't change because estrogen pellet implants
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>>33585809
>estrogen pellet implants
Sounds based, do they do that still?
I thought it had been abandoned.
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>>33585814
Not in australia

Had my first lot in 2x100mg and had levels at 170 pg/ml for like 10 months levels didn't really drop but doc was like they have to be running out soon so I got 2x100mg put in as a refresher. 3 months later I got my levels tested and I'm sitting at like 400 pg/ml so obviously the first lot are still kicking on.

Doc reckons I'm one of those people where the pellets last like up to 2 years
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I wish I had someone to be obsessed with me
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>Indian male super AGP tendencies
>am Indian male
shit shit shit fuck always knew i was faketrans goddamnit one more reason to rep ig
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>>33586317
My pajeeta sis, AGP is trutrans.
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However, this moral issue will eventually be
rendered academic by the fact that the male is
gradually eliminating himself. In addition to engaging
in the time-honored and classical wars and
race riots, men are more and more either becoming
fags or are obliterating themselves through
drugs. The female, whether she likes it or not,
will eventually take complete charge, if for no
other reason than that she will have to—the male,
for practical purposes, won’t exist.
Accelerating this trend is the fact that more and
more males are acquiring enlightened self-interest;
they’re realizing more and more that the female
interest is their interest, that they can live only
through the female and that the more the female
is encouraged to live, to fulfill herself, to be a
female and not a male, the more nearly he lives;
he’s coming to see that it’s easier and more satisfactory
to live through her than to try to become
her and usurp her qualities, claim them as his
own, push the female down and claim she’s a male.
The fag, who accepts his maleness, that is, his
passivity and total sexuality, his femininity, is also
best served by women being truly female, as it
would then be easier for him to be male, feminine.
If men were wise they would seek to become
really female, would do intensive biological research
that would lead to men, by means of
operations on the brain and nervous system, being
able to be transformed in psyche, as well as body,
into women.

Solanas was based, but replace fag with AGP.
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>>33586317
>blanchard created sissy hypno
qrd?
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>>33575367
Best AGP video games?
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I want to kill myself.
I hate my feet. I hate the ever growing hair. I hate my wide shoulders. I hate my ugly DISGUSTING gyno tits that are a weird shape and turned outward and feel inconvenient and alien. I hate my face that looks 20 years older than it is. I hate it all. I am so tired.
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Agp lunch
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>>33587331
so comfy
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>>33587331
Comfy home poke,best poster of agp gen by far.
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I fucking hate my gyno. It looks nothing like breasts, it's uncomfortable and it's ugly.
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>>33586662
Signalis
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>>33587398
If they're cone-shaped, that will usually go away with time on HRT, it did for me
I love my B-cup breasts, they're round and very normal looking, not even that wide apart and a cute size
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>>33588169
They're not too coney but they're wide set and the nipples are outward.
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everyday i believe trans was mistake, and everyday, i remember why i did this again. i dont know if this is the right decision. i cant decide. i am over a year on hrt. at this point i may as well just continue i guess. im just unsure all the time
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every weekend i put on the AGP uniform and fantasize about going outside and getting molested by a man in a dark alleyway or a crowded train
i spend an embarrassing amount of hours putting up a dildo against the wall, hike up my skirt, and give it a thigh job while i look at how slutty i am in the mirror
i know i’m perverted and i don’t mind it per de but no woman’s gonna want to date a freak like me and it feels kinda bad
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Theory:
AGP pseudo-bisexual feelings are largely dependent on femininity.
AGP femboys/ feminine twinks will often develop "gay" feelings (through they will relatively rarely act on it) because they are feminine and therefore can feel some AGP/ AGAMP/ ASE from the idea of being gay, while physically masculine AGPs will not, or will only do so if they self insert as twinks/ femboys (much in the same way they self insert as women to feel meta-attraction).
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>>33588169
B-cup Best-cup
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My birthfay party will have like 10 family members I didn't see in over a year.
I wonder if they'll notice some changes from HRT.
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>>33587161
-autistic map staring games
-autistic logistics planning games
-games with a detailed character creator (female)
-games with a strong female protag
-games that let you play as women
-games with women
-WOMEN
-etc
>>33587331
>huge bottle of accent(msg)
kek, where do you find it anon? i can't get enough of that shit
i'd buy it in bags if i could, and snort it
it's probably making me a worse cook because everything tastes so goooooood with it
>>33587672
looks like a cute game, might get it, i wonder if i can play it on my deck
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>>33588836
>-autistic map staring games
>-autistic logistics planning games
>-games with a detailed character creator (female)
>-games with a strong female protag
>-games that let you play as women
>-games with women
>-WOMEN
We have the same tastes.
I literally don't play games that will not let me play as women.
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>>33588836
i want Sims 4 but with logistics and map painting
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How do I cope with being a faketrans fakeAGP allosexual pedo gay gynephilic rapist?
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I need to be turned into an egodystonic, left wing, optimistic tranny.
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>>33588849
yeah, same, i played some games with male protags but the most played ones are female or let me play as one
or otherwise the character is gender neutral, which lets me fantasize about being a woman
>>33588869
let's make it anon, you're agp so you should KNOW how to code or at least draw, right?
>>33588892
i hope i never catch frenchie's brain disease
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>>33589206
why egodystonic?
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>>33589598
I hope I can be cured someday.
Makes life difficult.
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>>33589647
I meant egosyntonic, I am dumb.
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People who don't have AGP must just be low empathy or something. Anyone with eyes to see can tell that women are having more fun.
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>>33589763
Not everyone just wants to have fun. Even AGP. I don't want to be a woman because they have fun. In fact I hate that. I hate how childish and immature many women act.
I cringe a lot when I see women acting in such dishonourable matter.
I admire mature, more "grim" women.
Does that make me fakeAGP?
:(
Tell me it doesn't.
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The modern world doesn't restrict the female ability to have children like it does with men. Being male is just a constant assurance of the genocide of your line from the trends going on with technology and women rejecting an increasingly large portion of the population. Women dont have to prove themselves. Its unfair. Being a man is hard and we deserved our privileges. Now it's just objectively an inferior life being male unless you luck out as a top-tier male or you're a super ugly woman. We have no privileges, our lives our worse than theirs, and we still get shit for the privileges our great grandfathers amd congressmen have. The same congressmen who destroy our ethnic supremacy and colonize us to dilute our race. Life is hard to bear. There's not much reason except the potential for revenge to even live at all. I don't care if I feel happy or sad, pleasure or pain. When I am dead, it will not matter. I want my life to matter.
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>>33589206
I think I'm slowly becoming one
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>>33589821
not that anon but I've always admired women for their emotional openness and their freedom to express themselves in a way men just don't (generally)
Being a woman would definitely be fun. Being a man feels like prison sometimes
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>>33589821
I don't know. I kind of want a break from being grim. Do you see them ss authority figures or something? Probably still then an effect of modern gender role reversal. >Women are empowered
>You see a woman as the image of the power you desire
>You want to look like her in order to have her power
>Cut my balls off, doc
Speculating.
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When monogamy and virginity were the norm and licking someone's rectum was seen as deviant, men were secure and could live our lives without the real possibility of never having children. Monogamy is masculine socialism. It tells the polygamist he must sacrifice for our unity. Individualism has re-perpetrated polygamy onto my people, something we were never to my knowledge involved in even before Christ. We whites are natural national socialists. The further from that we are, the more insane we become, until Odin is reborn in our minds and we become violent and unhinged in order to bring about national socialism, our state of nature.
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>>33589829
Idk. Sure women don't have to prove themselves but if they don't their lives are mediocre. Not bad like men's but mediocre.
Argh. I am feeling bad because I can't relate rn.
My desire to be a woman as actually a desire to be more.
I wanted and want to be a great woman.
Not a mediocre woman who gets everything served for her but never achieves anything, riding the coattail of feminism.
>>33589844
I wish.
>>33589885
Idk.
It's nice to be a bit more emotionally open but so many grown women act downright childish. I hate it. I want to respect women. And I can't respect such pathetic behaviour.
It's over. I'm not AGP.
>>33589910
I feel like fundamentally my desire to be a woman is aesthetic. Like most AGPs.
There is a great aesthetic beauty in women and not men to me. So I want to be one.
But at the same time I don't find the female gender role or their behaviour that great. So instead I admire women who are powerful and cool and all that.
Xena, Sarah Connor, Buffy, Ellen Ripley, Sally Ride, Leni Riefenstahl etc.
On the other hand when I see women having fun I look down on them for being childish and hate them and stop wanting to be them.
It's over isn't it, I am fakeAGP?
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>>33589986
I don't know. It doesn't matter anyway imo.
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>>33589829
>>33589957
BASED
A
S
E
D
take your pills tho
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>>33590014
It matters through.
I don't want to detransition.
>Inb4 well just don't detransition!
I can't Transition if I am not actually AGP, I have no reason to.
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>>33590016
Why are you smiling and telling me I'm based? I do not take pills. This is confusing.
>>33590024
I dont think anyone should transition.
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>>33590053
I love chuds
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>>33590053
NTA but stop rationalizing your dysphoria with incel rhetoric. It's cringe.
If you look objectively you'll see women aren't actually favored in this society.
They have many downfalls they must avoid and that their fembrain push them toward.
Dating niggs, killing their babies, getting raped etc.
It's not really easy mode and it's hard to escape their fembrain because they're socialized into it.
But we trannies can get closer to what makes life as a woman good (the body mostly, also the way they're treated) without the glaring disadvantage of female socialization.
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>>33590076
Why? Seems like a weird and kind of generic response to so much content about wanting to kill myself and hating life and shit.
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>>33590097
>Dating niggs, killing their babies, getting raped etc.
My brother, you must be trolling.
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>>33590118
?
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>>33590107
Would you still hate life if you had a gf (male)?
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>>33590126
How is any of that stuff part of being a woman? Yeah getting raped happens to an appealing amount of girls, but tge other two are just what I would considerto be crimes against natural law and are not part of a normal life.
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>>33590142
>How is any of that stuff part of being a woman
It's part of fembrained. Being bad at choosing a mate. Aborting. Being dumb and being raped.
Being a normie girl isn't appealing.
They're dumb and soulless. Same for normie men.
Being a cool heroic woman is best. You get the greatness of the female phenotype while not being a literal child.
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>>33589763
kek, i think that's just a "different strokes for different folks" kind of thing
i always love it when some aaps talk up masculinity like it's the greatest thing on earth and make being a man feel like some kind of godly existence, kind of humbling desu
>>33589821
we all have our ideas of the kind of the woman we wish to be, you admiring any kind of woman at all makes you just as agp as anyone of us
i tend to admire strong-willed, assertive women, like Mokoto Kusanagi would be a great example
>>33589829
a lot to unpack, anon...
>>33589957
...although, idk, based?
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>>33590181
Kim?
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>>33590126
>>33590142
Appalling*

Catastrophic autocorrect error making me look like a rape lover.
>>33590140
I would hate myself for being a practicing faggosaurus. The pleasures a girly boy could bring would not change the times or the circumstances. The company would potebtially elevate my mood but I dont even feel like its appropriate to be happy. I think maybe I'm just a spiritual wormhole doomed to take in all the negativity of the world and try to express it. Happiness is just ugly here. Joy doesn't match with a genocidal government. It is a time to fight or to mourn. Or both at once.
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>>33590173
Lol you just don't like women.
>>33590181
I can get AAP for Dragon Ball Z characters but actual manly men in real life are oafs and douche bags.
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>>33590234
I love women physically (they are beautiful) and spiritually (I think they have the potential to be GREAT people) but I hate normie fembrained women indeed.
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>>33590271
Okay.
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>>33590181
Please answer me I know you're Kim!!!
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I hate seeing handsome guys that dress and style how I would do it if I wasn't a tranny.
Makes me second guess myself and wonder if I want to be like them.
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>>33590195
no, just a random agp anon
>>33590207
>autocorrect
sorry anon, you're a rape lover now
>>33590234
>I can get AAP for Dragon Ball Z characters but actual manly men in real life are oafs and douche bags.
true and same
>>33590337
kek, sorry for getting your hopes up frenchie
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>>33588836
Spanish groceries have msg, asian groceries also but they hide it to not freak out the white people who hate msg for no raisin
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>>33590349
it’s ok, besides not being a woman my other dysphoria is not being literally ryan gosling
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>>33590362
Oh I see, no problem, you have good tastes like Kim, please don't become a druggie like her or have sex with random chasoids.
>>33590371
You're Spaniard ??
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I just came thinking about kissing a femboy's butt. I'm so fucked up... I cum so fast. Why do i have to be a man? I could never satisfy a woman with my inferior clit. My heterosex life is over and my homosex life should never begin.
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Deflourment is the symbol of male existence. Just to be a conscious, phallic man and do what is pleasurable to us brings pain to the yoniverse. And so our blood must fertilize the mother nature in perpetual war as punishment for our existence.
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>>33590371
i see, good to know, i might have to visit some
not too familiar with ethnic stores
and yeah, i bought into the whole msg hate thing naturally until i started investigating claims like that and diet and stuff, msg is a god-tier seasoning actually
>>33590396
i think i maxed out my druggie potential after getting on DIY hrt and also bad experiences with supplements and herbs
besides that i'm pretty straight edge, don't drink or smoke, i don't even take cough syrup for colds
nothing wrong with them of course (unless maybe a hard drug), just not for me
and yeah, casual sex is not really for me either, i would be deathly afraid of an std
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>>33590585
You are based.
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White trannies wanna be puppy girls because white women unconditionally love their dogs but not their children. If you're a dog maybe your mother will finally love you.
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>>33590853
thanks for the profoundly unfunny regurgitation of twitter tranny memes, always online midwits truly are our greatest ally
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>>33590853
I want to be a floret not a puppy.
Through in the end it's whatever my Affini wants.
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>>33590897
I'm not joking.
>>33590946
Like a piece of broccoli?
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>Father's mistress hates me with passion for years
>Suddenly as she learns I am trooning she becomes supportive and wants to come to my birthday party
What is happening?
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>>33590624
thanks ig, i'm just a random agp though
>>33590897
meanie anon
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How come you arent corssdressing anon? I mean its porn addiction but who cares right?Fucking buy makeup and go out like a faggot!
JUST DO IT ANON!
JUST FUEL YOUR SHAME AND ANXIETY
JUST GO ON HORMONES ANON
JUST DO IT AND THEN BECOME THE HONMODER
ALL BECAUSE YOUR DICK IS SO FUCKIGN MASSIVE
GOT I LOVE GOONIGN TO TRANS HYPNO
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>>33591436
No.
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>>33591436
...are you okay anon? it's okay to cry
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>>33591588
No crying or tears
Only void and hopelessness for a future that doesnt exist
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I hope someone kills me.
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I spent my "day off" being suicidal on 4chan. What a waste of time.
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>>33591835
first time?
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I should get back to pointless work for people I hate that will ultimately amount to nothing.
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>>33591609
I hope crystalia becomes a magical girl and heals every agp anon
regardless of whether they want to or not
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>>33591862
depends on what you mean by healing
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Get money
And then do it again
And then do it again
Never enjoy the money
It's not enough
Your relative who was supporting you died
You are homeless now
Better get money
Get money
Get money
Congratulations, now you can wait for death in a house
The Jews thank you for your taxes. Just kidding. They fucking hate you and wish all your people were dead.
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Judaism is a hate group.
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I'm rude though so it doesn't matter. I should be nice about my life being totally ruined and my country subverted. This isn't grounds for war. Its just a little oopsie.
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Based /agpgen/?
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Remember "white male anger" is the real problem.

GASLIGHTING CUNT SHITS!!!!

My anger can never be accepted cause I'm a white man!? Fuck your world!

FUCK
YOU
ALL!!!!
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Everything is fucked.
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Everyone is a poser. They say shit like "I'd kill a pedophile" but they never do.
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>>33591882
>>33591926
>>33592005
>>33592029
>>33592040

Fr-frenchie….?
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>>33592178
No its me anon
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>>33592203
are we going to be on the 10 o’clock anon? what you getting up to
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>>33590396
No. My city just has a lot of Spanish groceries.
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>>33591879
you can guess what (◕‿◕)
>>33592178
it's another anon I think, i recognize his rants
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>>33592359
>you can guess what
i hope you mean turning me into a biologically female catgirl and then i get to live happily ever after
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>>33592486
yes
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>>33592720
thats not a catgirl but yes i would love to be her
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>>33587161
just play the games you see in those topster threads and see if you like them, i guess. AGPs tend to have similar tastes for the most part
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>>33592898
>thats not a catgirl but yes i would love to be her
damn, you're right, fuck, elona lied to me lol
my apologies for being a lowly secondary fan, i hope you can forgive my great error
>>33592991
>topster threads
nta but hmm? what's that?
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>>33593082
doesn't matter, i'll never be her
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oh god. i cant keep thinking about getting my pp cut off and and then getting fucked by men
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>>33593082
>nta but hmm? what's that?
in those 3x3 chart threads, most of the charts are made with topster
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this is so fucked up im crying and throwing up rn
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>>33595330
I wonder what the intersection between /tttt/ users and adult content creators is

>t. also looked up "twinkhon" on there
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>>33595394
does unsee/catbox count as a platform?
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>>33595718
*Kind of*, but it's not really public. I think I might be the only trans woman who's never so much as taken a nude photo
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>>33595759
it was mostly tongue in cheek, idk imagine that some content creators look here periodically to make sure they aren’t hon of the week of something but don’t interact with the community. lot of people lurk
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>>33575367
I am not trans because if I was born centuries ago I wouldn't care about being a man, but seeing males being women now makes me want to be like them
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Eonia shall be in Argentina.
>New president is pro gay
>New president is pro trans
>New president is anti gun control
>New president wants to cut taxes (better for expats).
>New president is anti abortion (based, makes roasties seethe while we're fine).
>New president supports Israel and the USA.
>New president is against restraining scientific research
This is our Eldorado, sisters.
It shall be like Antoine de Tounens's expedition.
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>>33596505
That would be interesting if Eonians...Eoniase...Eonics..Eonii(?) there had offspring.
IVG and embryo selection when?
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>>33597089
Ivg will be commercially available in our lifetime, probably.
Imagine getting ivg and selecting the best offpsring that are AGP and creating a race of AGP Überfrauen.
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>>33597101
That would be something, selection pressures would probably make us more likely to stick together, we'll become like jews.
I don't know if I would be horrified or delighted at the possibility of irl agp communities, probably both.
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Agps are ice breaker and we will pass the gender/sex question in the future.
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>>33597895
>gender/sex question in the future
What?
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I want to have sex with a man as a woman. It must be so nice.
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I hate how soulless, shallow and spoiled modern women are. So infantile.
How can a grown adult be so immature?
Do little dances on the internet?
It's pathetic.
I believe it's due to socialization because not all women are like that, and women back in the days were different.
Women nowadays have equal rights without equal responsibilities and it makes them eternal children.
I hate this.
Women need to be saved from modern socialization that makes them literal children.
If you interact with older women born before or just after WW2, you will see that they are different.
They have a certain gravity, grimness in them.
I don't get how anyone, AGP or not, can see women doing their little dances, laughing etc and not feel tremendous, utter disgust at these adult children.
Women need to be saved from themselves, they must be made to act more like men, and men more like women, to reach a sane equilibrium.
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>>33598176
Meh, I just hate tiktok in general. I don't care if it's a woman or a sperg AGP twinkhon doing attention whoring dances
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I think I would've passed the AGP inspection day and given the middle finger to my male classmates who would have undoubtedly made fun of me
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What causes late onset AGP dysphoria?
I do remember masturbating to TG and TF very early, in mid middle school.
There were girls I liked and admired but I don't remember thinking I wanted to be them.
It's like my desire to be a woman was always very... Internal.
Unless a super AGP woman came along (like a cool lesbian), I never really feel direct jealousy for women IRL. I feel totally isolated and alienated from both men and women, like I am my own specie.
But when I play vidya or imagine my life I always prefer being a woman.
How to explain that?,
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>>33598441
by passing does that mean that you have it or not? also how’s agp inspection day go?
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>>33598441
>>33598456
I would pass AGP inspection day because I am not AGP. I am a cisgender allosexual man. It's over. I wish I were AGP like you.
I need to Kms.
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>>33598441
How would AGP inspection work? You would have to dress in woman's clothes without popping a boner?
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>>33598550
so frenchie if you’re creating the separatist country of Eonia, are you going to exile yourself everytime your ocd flares up?
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Has anyone here experienced a sexuality change on hrt? was not expecting this at all..
>>33598646
brain scanners, it's a hypothetical future scenario
My agp would not be detected with what you describe being an anatomic only agp, clothes do nothing for me
>>33598669
kek
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>>33598669
Honestly if I had full power I would unironically get a lobotomy to make me AGP/ lose OCD.
>>33598675
My sexuality hasn't changed, I still only really feel aroused by deviantart boomer TG captions like these https://www.deviantart.com/vfrcbvvfrcbv/art/Weird-Science-995127387
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>>33598689
a tragic story. a charismatic and powerful leader frees her people, but is plagued with illnesses of the mind. lobotomized she spends her days on an estate managed by the government ensuring that she lives comfortably and is available for photo ops. you will be revered as a hero, even if your sacrifice is not known.
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Before I came out the official Gender Identity Disorder guidelines were that you had to come to therapists meetings in women's clothes for a year and a half, called "real life experience." If you obviously came in with a boner they would flag you as a fetishistic transvestite.

I specifically went out of my way to contact therapists until I found one that wasn't requiring Real Life Experience to transition medically. I recall in one email a therapist I rejected, he must of knew by vibes what I was doing and said "you are going to make a mistake we had those old guidelines in for a reason."

You young shit agps don't even know the bureaucratic hurdles you had to jump through. Stop being whiny sissy bitches and use your make brian to get what you want.
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>>33598689
when you think about it captions are the mid ground between female mastrubatory content (usually erotica, few images) and male (primarily image focused, barley any plot)
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>>33598712
This... Honestly sounds great.
Will my grave have a female name on it and a nice statue too?
>>33598730
We have these types of hurdles in France still lol
Shrink only directed me to an endo because I was DIYing, and the endo refused to give me anything because muh cypro.
>>33598734
Interesting, that is indeed true.
Sometimes I see a cute woman and have the urge of finding a TG caption with a girl with a similar vibe to imagine I'm turned into her.
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>>33598746
> Will my grave have a female name on it and a nice statue too?
i don’t see why eonia would disrespect her founder in her death.
> Interesting, that is indeed true
it’s all tranny astrology but idk if anyone’s mentioned it
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>>33598762
More seriously, I hope my condition will not require lobotomy, lol.
I like tragic fates, but still...
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>>33598782
do they even do lobotomies anymore?
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Sit nomine digna.
May she be worthy of her name.
Eonia the beautiful.
Eonia the brave!

Sit nomine digna.
May she be worthy of her name.
May it live forevermore.
An everlasting flame!

We will always love her.
Until the day we die.
Sit nomine digna.
Written on the green and white!

Sit nomine digna.
May she be worthy as she flies.
We pray that above all.
She's worthy in God's eyes.
>>33598813
I don't think so lol
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>>33598689
>My sexuality hasn't changed, I still only really feel aroused by deviantart boomer TG captions like these https://www.deviantart.com/vfrcbvvfrcbv/art/Weird-Science-995127387
Like I think I'm turning hsts or something, idk if i should be concerned or not
Before HRT:
>attracted mainly to women
>attracted to tg seqs, femboys in some cases
>zero attraction to men
Only a few months of HRT:
>find it hard to stay hard looking at sexual pics of women
>MUCH stronger attraction to feminine guys, rock hard
>men maybe a tiny bit now, only meta-attraction at best though
I could just also be in a weird mood, but this really bodes terribly for my sapphic desires :(
Will I still be allowed in Eonia?
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>>33598834
This is just common, run of the mill meta-attraction.
Might or might not remain, some go back to full transbianism, others are functionally pseudo-heterosexual.
Most find a middle ground and are pseudo-bisexual.
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Is depersonalization an actual excuse, or was I simply not dysphoric at all?
>Didn't like voice when hearing it, and didn't like using voice chat, but nothing atrocious either, just slight disagreeable feeling.
>Didn't like my face at all but at the same time didn't vomit from it or something, and felt a bit proud if told I was handsome (which virtually never happened).
>Didn't really like my body but mostly ignored it. Being too fat or too weak was more annoying and proactive than being male.
>Not too fond of penis, hid it under the blanket when fapping and looked elsewhere when pissing, but nothing terrible.
>Didn't care about my hands.
>Didn't like my feet and the fact they were hairy.
>Didn't really like my body hair but mostly tolerated it.
>Hated having a beard, the feeling was horrible, but sometimes still didn't shave it out of depression and laziness.
>Overall felt very distant from my body, could tolerate it fine, realizing it was very male (like being told it was) felt like an ironic and slightly bitter realization.
Was I dysphoric?
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>>33598847
The future I'm fearing right now:
>be me, trans girl top
>can't be a bottom because that's determined at birth and i like using my d
>apparently sexuality isn't though so i go from straight man to straight woman
>...
>topping my bf
>however no real man bottoms so she soon comes to me as trans
>supportive but heartbroken because i know how this plays out
>i slowly lose attraction to her as she feminizes
>she loses attraction to me too as she becomes straight
>mutual break up and she finds a bf who tops her
>alone again...
i'll never find love...
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It'll sound weird, but does anyone else feel like detrooners are like, possessed by a parasite, so to speak?
They have an uncanny quality to them.
>>33598942
Are you actually a top? Wow.
You will be a great loss to transbiankind if you do go full androphilic.
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Feeling so much jealousy about trans girls that started younger than me and got to live a lot of their youth as a girl. It's painful. I might end up passing but I'll be like a 30 year old lady by the time I do and I'll need to get my face bones cut apart
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I don't feel dysphoric enough, and I hate it.
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>>33598990
I wonder if attraction to women is mediated by T, lesbians have higher T, right?
I might lower my dose some, this is too much...
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>>33599082
Many guys start having gay thoughts when they go on TRT, and MANY lesbians become gaydens on HRT.
So no.
Honestly we have no fucking idea what causes sexuality and the relationship to hormones.
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>>33598730
god that pic is so hot
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>>33599087
>tfw strongly meta-attracted even without HRT
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>>33599087
Maybe Alvi was right, I should stop playing God
I don't have enough wisdom to mess with my hormones
He probably detrooned because he was like me
But I don't want to be a m*n :(
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I WISH I WERE DYSPHORIC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>33599388
You are.
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>>33599411
Idk.
Maybe but like.
Idk.
My /pol/ mindset/ conditioning is strong.
I wish a drug existed that could turn me 100% trans for certain.
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>>33599425
I wish I were a truAGP and was thus gynephilic
I'm a fake AGP true trans HSTS androphile instead
I want a drug that makes me 100% attracted to only women
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Why did I have to get such a big fucking jaw?
IWNBAW.
Also my OCD makes me want to believe I actually like having a wide jaw.
It's over.
Over.
Àaaaaaaâäãåāæáaaaaaaaaa
It's actually over.
>>33599708
Most AGPs are meta attracted.
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>>33599762
Sure but they aren't supposed to be fully androphilic and 0% gynephilic.
I'm literally staring at sexy women right now, women who I found deeply attractive only a few months ago, and I feel NOTHING.
IWNBAGP.
It's over...
(Also you look kind of adorable in that pic.)
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>>33600007
Tbf I never looked at women and found it arousing, unless I was imagining I were them.
At best I found them beautiful and aesthetically pleasing.
That's just typical AGP anallosexuality.
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>>33600070
I do find them beautiful and aesthetically pleasing, but I also found their bodies arousing too.
I was hearing that sexuality is supposedly actually about same-attraction vs different-attraction, is that what's happening? I'm becoming a woman so I need to be attracted to men?? what kind of shit is that....
AGP is suffering any which way you choose it seems...
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>>33599762
Why don't you grow out your hair? Hair frames the face
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>>33600327
"I'm sure you'll pass with bangs" lol.
I mean. I am growing them out. I started with almost a buzz cut. I have been growing them out since last January.
But they're curly so they grow slowly.
But my forehead and brow ridge are too slipped and massive anyway.
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>>33600408
I will show this to my FFS surgeon and ask him to make me look like that.
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>>33600165
This is literally me, I'm going to become the tranny in this scenario
Instead of living out my sapphic dreams with a woman I love, living a nice quiet life in a country cottage with our daughters, I'll be a prostitute
I'll be a prostitute who's solely attracted to seeking out men to dominate and emotionally break
I'll never find love, instead I'll break hearts and take my anger out on men because that's all I'll have
I hate that I'm attracted to this, MY AGP IS GONE
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>>33600878
Dominant people are sick.
I'll find another bottom mostly asexual tranny who has an equally bad level of passing as me and pair-bond.
Bottom X Bottom is best.
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>>33600408
I have the same hairline it's so over
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>>33600903
I was neither a dom nor sub when it came to women
I like just being together, emotional closeness, pair bonding, cuddling with women, becoming on in spirit, that sort of thing, even liked it more than sex really
I wasn't asexual but didn't really desire sex that strongly
But I did notice I had a thing with fem subby men. I thought it was just a TF/TG fantasy though, never did anything with a guy before
For some reason subby fem guys brought out a dom in me I never had with women ever, but I didn't think it was real thing until now
That picrel is my future and I can't change it.
The Gates of Eonia will never open for me, I'm literally an HSTS spiritually-Brazilian androphilic tranny....
(it's over)
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>>33601029
Yeah...
I am afraid it's getting worse but I can't know for sure.
I literally have EVERYTHING wrong.
Slopped forehead, big nose, jutting browbone, deep set eyes, big jaw, shitty hairline, scarred skin, 5'11, big hands and feet, wide shoulders, deep voice, EVERYTHING.
>>33601041
Well I used to gaycope (never actually did anything IRL through) and generally I ended up having to be the dominant one because my personality is more proactive.
Idk. Wanting to top feminine men is not androphilic, it's mostly GAMP.
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>>33601062
>Well I used to gaycope (never actually did anything IRL through) and generally I ended up having to be the dominant one because my personality is more proactive.
>Idk. Wanting to top feminine men is not androphilic, it's mostly GAMP.
Like, that's where it is right now but I think it's SHIFTING
A few years of HRT and I'll probably be only interested in topping masc men, no fem men
As far from AGP as possible...
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>>33601197
>topping masc men
I refuse to believe anyone wants that.
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>>33601219
True, I really don't, but my biology now says otherwise...
I think I'll start microdosing T if lowering my doses doesn't work.
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>>33601298
tgel on gock
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>>33600408
Can this type of hairline even be fixed/ concealed?
I hate it.
>>33601298
I think you're dramatising it. Your desire to top cute men isn't that out there.
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>>33601323
Hmm, one of the fears I had with gel is my fear of comtamination
I used to use homemade E gel but switched to injections for this reason
I don't want to masculinize anyone I top by accident...
>>33601343
but anon, I liked women :(
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>>33601404
I mean. So many trannies found a newfound interest in men, dated a few guys, then went back to women.
It's normal for AGPs to have GAMP.
Which includes twinks.
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>>33601404
I'm cis f but when I use T for a while I imagine being in the perspective of a guy fucking cute feminine guys in the ass. It's involuntary. Goes away as soon as my T drops. Hormones are weird. Desires are weird. I'm not into men and don't fuck them. I don't want to act on the desire and I don't want to be a man. This doesn't cause me stress, so I'm not worried about it and don't think about it much. I imagine if this caused me anxiety I'd think about it a lot more and question my sexuality.
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>>33601428
Sigh, well I hope it's the case for me then
>>33601480
Yeah, I guess I'm just working myself up for nothing
It's not like I'll seriously stop E over this...
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>>33601650
I don't really mind because at least you don't want to get dommed by men.
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>>33598176
Agreed desu. Might have been part of the reason I repped as long as I did

>>33598689
>make me AGP/ lose OCD

I also have had a long history of OCD, but if you want it to be the case that you're trans you almost certainly are

>>33598902
Relatable and yeah that sounds dysphoric
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>>33601715
All three posts you replied to were by me.
It's really heartwarming knowing someone relate.
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I wish I were cute.
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Omg I don't know if this is a fake memory or not but I remembered being a young kid and complaining to a psychologist that boys wouldn't pick on if I were born a girl, then being asked if I am a girl, and I said no because boys can't become girls, right? And it ended there
Total psychologist death if it happened
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>>33601725
I know, I relate to a lot of people on this gen, I feel like we've talked before here
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>>33601895
Probably!
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I need to stop visiting this fucking board, it's driving me insane, these rich youngshits starting HRT at 15 with their family paying for FFS and SRS and then they complain and say it's over and that they started too late and shit like holy fuck you motherfucker.
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>>33602184
>Inb4 you started at 19
Anyway, personally, I only browse this general anymore.
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>>33602213
No lol I started at 28 I'm a real lateshit not a fake "I started at 18 I'm a lateshit my life is over" lateshit. Thankfully like I have a good shot at passing, I'm just not quite there yet and it's been super painful to me lately to think of how much of my life I wasted living as man when I have trans girl friends way less retarded than me who transitioned when they were like 20.
And honestly this is absolutely the most sane and civilized thread on the board besides Frenchie's demented rants. /mtfg/ is a cess pool of tripfags acting like anime girls.
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>>33602272
this place has gone through a lot but there was a time /agpg/ was full of youngshits and midshits as well
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>>33602272
You're that Asian tranny no?
>Frenchie's demented rants.
You don't like me? :(
>>33602284
Yeah. Old AGPgen was actually 99% youngshit and mostly midshits.
It had a few oldshits but they were luckshits like Shamiranon.
The lateshit/ oldshit presence is a new phenomenon due to the death of mmg and the departure of the old AGPgen domegraphic to discord.
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>>33602284
Yeah, I honestly just like need to get over it, I need to learn to cope and let it go. I shouldn't like have trouble interacting with youngshits because of how much knowing they exist makes me hate myself, it's not healthy. Like I need to take a deep breath and focus on the positives and just be happy for them. Really like things are going well for me despite starting late and I think I'll have a successful transition and be able to go full time.
>>33602316
I like you lol it's demented in a funny way. And nah I'm not Asian. I do look slightly brown though like I could be part Greek or Middle Eastern or something and I have narrower eyes.
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>>33602184
>15
>"youngshit"
boomeranon, it's not 2014 anymore
15 is a late midshit, borderline lateshit
youngshit is before puberty now, untouched by T, so 9-10 at the latest
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>>33602357
Oh I see. I asked because there is another tranny in this gen who started at 28 (or maybe 29) and is Asian, so she has a good shot too. She's arguably already pretty passable.
And thanks.
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>>33602373
Bullshit.
Also stop trying to make her feel even worse.
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>>33602373
> youngshit is before puberty now
let’s be real that’s going be a pre 2024 artifact tbhon
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>>33602427
True youngshits have XX chromosomes.
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I am so ugly and masculine. It's tiresome honestly.
My best friend still calls me brother.
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>>33602466
how do i stop being such a Y-chromohon
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>>33602407
sorry, the meta is just updating so rapidly....
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>>33602496
It's over. True trannies have XX chromosomes anyway.
XYhons are just trenders...
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>>33602494
Lol if my best friend troon out and is a passoid I would still call him bro,it’s not something wrong, I call my cis friends dude too woman or man
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>>33602625
> I would still call him bro
it’s grover
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I wish I were trans.
I wish I could be wholesome and tragic like Anne Vitale's group 3 dysphoric.
I wish I were cute and likeable.
I wish I could be feminine.
I wish I had AGP.
I wish I wasn't a terachad.
I wish I weren't a straight androphilic allosexual cis man.
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>>33602427
What's so special about 2024?
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what lvl of agp am i if i want to look like this
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>>33602721
us presidential election year, right wing has been all mad about minors having access to HRT
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>>33602756
You really think they're going to win?
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>>33602761
american electoral politics is basically a coin toss imo
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I hope trump wins so all the tranners come to Europe. I want hon friends.
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AGP dinner
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>>33603118
This looks a lot like how I would have my room set up
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>>33603118
this nibba needs to get herself a duster and a maid dress clean your shit yo

>Arrange
>Groom
>Purify
you too can be a cleanGP
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>>33603649
Lol I knew someone would point out the dusty keyboard lol
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>>33603681
I just wanted an excuse to tell you to get a maid dress
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nu
>>33604358



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