Fuck this Earth. This is fucking evil and awful.
>>31141935Oh. All mentally lel trannies are LARPs.
Let's be honest, testosterone means bigger muscles and denser bones, hence the competitive advantage.
>>31141935personally i don't support tw in womens sports but i think doing stuff like this is a slippery slope towards legitimately harmful legislation and whatnot (banning hrt for minors, criminalizing drag queens, stripping back discrimination protections, etc) so i will pretend it's bad for the sake of the cause
>>31141966more cum = gooder
>>31141973UK already has a national defacto ban on puberty blockers (and 0 FFS coverage)
>>31141935Why not just have all-tranny sports?
>>31142004yes and that's horrible and should be undone
>>31142019Even if we accept that trannies are legitimately born as the wrong gender, how the fuck are you supposed to know that you're a tranny if you haven't finished puberty?
>>31142050because trans kids know what they want to grow up as?
>>31141966This has been proven to be scientifically, proven false. There is little to no muscular or body weight mass differences between male and female.
>>31142050i don't think you need to finish puberty
>>31142050because gender dysphoria manifests at the onset of puberty. hope this clears it up for you anon.
>>31141935Wow we really needed another thread about this
>>31142072>so much cope and lyingWhy deny science and facts?
>>31142072>There is little to no muscular or body weight mass differences between male and female
>>31142266Look at the shoulders on that cishon. Good lord.
>>31141935Transgender women are still Biologically male/men
>>31141935I think "evil" is a bit strong, anon. Trans women can still compete in cycling:>Transgender women, transgender men, non-binary individuals and those whose sex was assigned male at birth will be eligible to compete in the ‘Open’ category. The ‘Female’ category will remain in place for those whose sex was assigned female at birth and transgender men who are yet to begin hormone therapy. >At this stage, they will be eligible to compete in the ‘Open’ category only, and should ensure that they continue to adhere to the requirements of UK Anti-Doping. Those whose sex was assigned female at birth are also able to compete in the ‘Open’ category if they so wish.
>>31142004>0 FFS coverageThat's because there's no clinical evidence that FFS helps with dysphoria in any meaningful way, so they don't cover it on the NHS. Same with breast augmentation, it's just plastic surgery that trans women might want to have but it's not medically necessary.The NHS has to maximise the good it does with public funds, and not covering plastic surgery means it can increase the amount of e.g. hip replacements it does which have a demonstrably better impact on quality adjusted life years.
>>31142072Then why are male sportsfags significantly superior to female ones? To the point a hungover alcoholic smoker ranked ~250th can beat the top female tennis player without preparation.
>>31142401>there's no clinical evidence that FFS helps with dysphoria in any meaningful waybrought to you by the same people saying puberty blockers are no longer okay and actually no minors shouldn't transition anyway actually no they shouldn't even do it as adults
>>31142401>That's because there's no clinical evidence that FFS helps with dysphoria in any meaningful way, so they don't cover it on the NHS. Same with breast augmentation, it's just plastic surgery that trans women might want to have but it's not medically necessary.This. Ugly women don't get plastic surgery to look pretty on the taxpayer, why should trans women get it? You have no right to transition into your idealised anime waifu.
I wish you people would learn to read
>>31141935>men cant compete against women in womens sportstragedy, 100%
>>31142004Damn, we do? Maybe we aren't so bad after all.>>31141935This is fucking rational and promising. Western transgenderism is a disease.
>>31142068Well, cis kids don't. Puberty is horrifying for many people who grow up to love their bodies.
>>31142118That makes no sense. Gender roles and physical differences are present since birth.
>>31142072>proven to be scientifically, proven falselol no, you're coping too hard
>>31142590trans kids know they're trans before they go through puberty.
>>31142651>kids know they're transYeah, what don't these people understand?Kids are very capable of making life altering, irreversible decisions.
>>31142015Just compete with men
>>31142692Ikr, I guess these people just haven't heard of Gillick competence.
>>31142072No offense but transgender is literally the liberal's version of flat earth
>>31142692Just make them wait till 16Gigapassoid this, youngshit that, even hot passing trans girlies like Kimmy P can get fucked over from their pituitary gland going into hyper drive with its testosterone production following puberty blockers and now she looks like augustus gloop even dr marci bowers is saying puberty blockers are a bad idea
>>31142866puberty blockers are definitely bad idea, which is why we should just go straight to cross-sex hormone therapy.
>>31141935trans women who've gone trough male puperty have no place in normal female competitive sportst. mtf who did competitive sports before and wants to keep competition fair
>>31142651Make a thread asking the average tranners here when they started feeling dysphoric, I bet the average is over 15 years old.
>>31142866She just got fat, all fatties look subhuman with weird ass skin flaps in weird places
>>31142928This, I can snatch 100kg. The female Olympic record holder in my country snatched 90kg. I'm a literal nobody who started weightlifting in my shitty home gym after 1.5 years of hrtAll the idiots arguing for tw in sports have no idea how strong they can get if they just train and eat properly
>>31142072Can you at least be bothered to make it believable
>>31141935This is good and fair.>>31142072In any case there's no scientific way to determine what counts as an advantage. Muscle mass alone doesn't disprove that trans women have an advantage. Height, for instance, is an immutable characteristic. If HRT completely changed how the body functions we wouldn't need early transitions.
>>31143002You need to stop being hondosed
>>31141966I don’t care because sports are trivial entertainment and thus none of it matters. Indeed, the ban robs us of the chance to laugh at cis women losers who got 15th place mad at trans women who got 14th place, lowering the overall entertainment of sports, so it is bad.
>>31145089I'm diy with EEn injections and dutasteride. My T has been <20 ng/dl for years. You don't need any T to mog the fuck out of cis F lifters, they're basically children
>>31142072You're arguing for removal of the womens division entirely.>>31142118...and frequently desists with no medical intervention.
>>31142382Still GENOCIDE.
>>31142928Q: What would you prefer? Trans specific category? Open category? MTF and FTM separated?
>>31145983Nta, but a trans specific category will be pure comedy. I want to see massive shoulder hons mog the shit out of tiny pooners. It might even be more popular that real sports just for the sheer entertainment valueOpen category is always available by default. Whoever wants to bash their head against cis M athletes can do so at any time at their own risk
>>31141973>personally i don't support tw in womens sports but i think doing stuff like this is a slippery slope towards legitimately harmful legislation and whatnot (banning hrt for minors, criminalizing drag queens, stripping back discrimination protections, etc) so i will pretend it's bad for the sake of the causethis is how everyone really feels deep down
