Why are white trannies like this
>>30126040i dont know who any of these people are
>>30126065Shame... Like... How you can no know the first one is just... Dear god. I understand the rest (though big recommend Malatesta) but like... Damn
>>30126040>*Nerdy incel removes fedora and cape*>*troons*>"why yes I love Karl Marx, how could you tell?"look at bagel
Imagine going back in time and telling karl marx that his work would be most influential among diaper wearing transbians in the pnw
>>30126040>look at these dumb white trannies ha ha
>>30126083No one cares
>>30126100>Capitalism+ communism+warmongering+ trans rights now!
>>30126149i look like this and say this
>>30126100the number of marxists in china and india vastly outweighs white trans marxists, most of whom have not actually read marx
>>30126160Slava Ukraini and Israeli colonization 4ever!
>>30126165>marxists>in china
>>30126040i am white and the only name i recognize is karl marx and im kinda indifferent and havent read anything from him
>>30126065Step 1: Close browser.Step 2: Read all major works by Karl Marx.Repeat step 2 until done.Step 3: Be a better person.
>>30126257You don’t want to be a breadtuber?
>>30126483nope not at alleconomics is boring and i dont care if we do capitalism, socialism, or communism, as long as people are happy
>>30126083i only know the first one and im white
>>30126523>economics is boring I mean in the bread book kropotkin says economics is dumb, fake and boring
>>30126525Malatesta is very good. Kropotkin has some hits, but more if you like evolutionary biology stuff... Don't really know the other two myself.
>>30126065Basedfpbp
>>30126040>grew up in rich suburbs of major cities>never experienced any struggle what so ever>well I graduated college with my philosophy degree now what>I should change the world, I’m very smart>If everyone just stopped working, all the world’s problems would go away>why is no one paying attention to me? I’m white, liberal, and went to a good school>Oh, I’m a minority now, I’m very important>please donate to my patreon while I sit inside my 4000/m apartment in a big city and I make YouTube videos about Marxism>I’m trans now so this is importantLiterally every breadtuber in the past 5 years
>>30126065OHHHH SAYYYY CANN YOUUUU SEEEEEEEE
>>30126543>economics is dumb, fake and boringuhh basedbut what do they talk about in it if not economics?
>>30126040better than nazi trannies
>>30126631Based!
>>30126361Anyone who reads marx should be hung from a bridge
For me its max stirner, nick land, and ted kacynzcki
>>30126580https://youtu.be/5ZAX81vLI80At least badempanada is honest and acknowledges that it's all just political entertainment for money
>>30126361Why would anyone ever recc marx in 2023? The language is not accessible and it's not really that relevant in our stage of capitalism, even if you ignore that most of it is a buzzword laden "analysis" of capitalism to "prove" the inevitability of the collapse of capitalism and nothing else.I'd rather just recc modern works like Jason Hickel's stuff, david graeber, an engine not a camera, capital and imperialism by patnaik, political capitalism by holcombe etc
>>30126190Mudslime detected.
>>30127529
>>30126093bagel is a conti liberal with zero connection to the movement of the working class
mine are probably uhhBill WattersonumTed KaczynskiKarl Popper
>>30126040These are white trendies.REAL white trannies' biggest intellectual influence is picrel.
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>>30126093Bagel is Deleuze-analNot marxist
>>30126361will y'all ever grow up and stop acting like you stepped out of Plato's cave? every fucking college freshman reads Marx and thinks they have it all figured out. the surprise is: no, you haven't
>>30127529Pretty based, but sounds like you're just meming. Mine: Thomas PaineThomas Moore Henry George Max Stirner Commies get the rope.
>>30127764>lists 3 guys who are basically commies>commies get the ropewhat did he mean by this?
>>30127781I'm a far right progressive. None of these guys are commies.
>>30127529... are you in my d&d group
>I'm a far right progressive.
>>30127824Meant for >>30127807
For me: John LockePlínio SalgadoJosé Antonio Primo de RiveraCharles Maurras Corneliu Zelea CodreanuEmil Cioran
For me?Yeah, Nietzsche.
>>30127807>I'm a far right progressivewhat's that mean
The problem with Marxism and most other political philosophies is that they're all built on the works of people who lived more than a century ago and thus are predicated on pre-scientific information about human nature. The only way forward is to structure our societies based on observable limitations of human organization and empathy. We cannot have healthy communities without accounting for Dunbar's Number. We cannot have healthy race relations without accounting for the way testosterone and oxytocin levels affect feelings of xenophobia. Without politics-as-applied-neurobiology societies will keep making the same mistakes over and over again.It's often been said that humans are constantly at war because we have atomic age weapons and stone age instincts. What's more dangerous still is only having a stone age understanding of those instincts.
>>30127854>The problem with Marxism and most other political philosophies is that they're all built on the works of people who lived more than a century ago and thus are predicated on pre-scientific information about human nature.yeah agree. science is pretty OP>We cannot have healthy race relations without accounting for the way testosterone and oxytocin levels affect feelings of xenophobiaand, um, other things. but yeah
>>30126040Social influence. Tranny spaces are already pretty left-wing by default, so you're either introduced to it or sort of forced into believing the dogma. It's pretty obvious actually, cuz when you talk to many leftist tranners it's obvious they don't read much —they just repeat what their Twitter friends say.
>>30127847Right economically, progressive socially.
>>30127876oh, never mind
>>30127876none of those guys in your list were economically right wing you fucking retard
>>30127847a combination of american brainwashing and wikipedia article ideology shopping. almost definitely a teenager.
>>30126361Marx won't help you morally. If you want socialism + morality, read Proudhon.
>>30127894Most of my economic opinions come from Henry George, who proposed the farthest right economic system that could be viable implemented.
>>30127876Just say neocon, if you are American.
>>30126040I thought the last one was something about phalloplasty
>>30127933And his cousin, Shamelesshon.
>>30127947>abolishing all profits from rents and redsitributing wealth with LVT is right wingthere was this thing called feudalism that was "viably implemented" for a thousand years, look it up sometime
you retards really make twitter commies look good in comparison with you snowflake political views
For me it's - Max Stirner- Joseph Smith- myselfnot in that orderi'm a commie btwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncFMyY7Ci4
>>30127981>>30127529>>>30127764>stirnerCringe>>30127981You can't be both stirnerite and a commie.let's say you end up in a situation where you can exploit people and get away scot free, what will you do?If you say you won't become your ego says no, then think about a hypothetical stirnerite whose ego is a bit more devious. That's what you get when you ask people to disconnect from all spooks and follow em spooks.
>>30126040bell hooks if fembrained
>>30126040my biggest intellectual influences are probably:-xunzi-heidegger-marx-hegel-zhi yi (the monk who created tiantai Buddhism)-leo strauss
>>30127971Certainly right wing compared to what we have today. Henry George believed that a land value tax was the only ethical tax because people should have complete private ownership of their labor and capital. That's right wing. That's two thirds of the means of production that he advocated private ownership for. As opposed to what we have today where all three are taxed. He also didn't believe in abolishing profits from rent, only from land holding. His method of a citizen's dividend is also more right wing than the welfare system we have today, where we take money from the rich and give it to the poor.
>>30128018not wanting to be a social bandit in the communengmi, npcanyway, you actually can't be a commie without some sort of self-interested rejection of labouring under capitalism. I don't reject liberalism because of its inefficientcies or despoilation of the world, but rather, because I take being asked to work for the enrichment of others as a personal affront.
>>30128101>not wanting to be a social bandit in the commune>let's say you end up in a situation where you can exploit people and get away scot free, what will you do?If you say you won't become your ego says no, then think about a hypothetical stirnerite whose ego is a bit more devious. Read it again you amoral retard
>>30128118>let's say you end up in a situation where you can exploit people and get away scot free, what will you do?i never said i wouldn'twhat's your point?
>>30128154Then you'll never be a commieStop saying you're both a commie and a stirnerite.
>>30128065I reiterate, it's ridiculous to call henry george "far right" when there's 50 billion lolberts and neoliberals that don't even bother with the pleasantries of a citizen's dividend. not to mention fascists, ancaps and other assorted loonies.>only 1 of the 3 is taxed!but none of the 3 are taxed now to 100%also it's incorrect to equate "right wing" with "private"
>>30128197>Stop saying you're both a commie and a stirnerite.No.
>>30128018>let's say you end up in a situation where you can exploit people and get away scot free, what will you do?if they ever allowed this to happen, they wouldn't be acting in their self-interest, thus it would fail to be a union of egoists
>>30128244>I'll define self-interest in a very specific way to the point it codifies into some sort of ethical scriptures
>>30128265>in my hypothetical situation, it IS in their ego's desire to let me exploit them!ok nvm it is a union of egoists then
>>30128278>it only works in this very specific utopian contextokay lmao
>>30128213I didn't say Henry George was far right, I said he proposed the farthest right economic system viable. Ideologically I find ancap more appealing, but I don't think there is any viable avenue for manifesting it and it probably wouldn't last long. Georgism could actually happen. >but none of the 3 are taxed now to 100% Even if it's not 100%, it still implies that the public are entitled to the fruits of my labor even if it's only in part, something Henry George thought was despicable.>also it's incorrect to equate "right wing" with "private"Economy this is how it almost always plays out. The public vs private ownership of the means of production.
tfw no tranny that likes daron acemoglu to be my fren
tfw whole thread about economicsno one mentions douglass northnot even based tranner deirdre mccloskey
my biggest intellectual influences-kaczynski -baudrillard-solanas-land-my own farts
>>30128291wut
>>30128348oH SHIT also stirner
>>30128359I guess thats covered under "my own farts"
>>30127933Or just read graeber. He passionately opposed "scientific" socialism and he's more knowledgeable than proudhon
>>30128300>I didn't say Henry George was far right, I said he proposed the farthest right economic system viable.I don't know how to drive this home further, but he was a leftist radical in a time before welfare and with very little public infrastructure (and zero income tax). If you don't support ideas more far right than his, I would hope it's because you believe they are unjust or lead to a hellish society, not because you believe they are completely impossible or have never existed in the past.
>>30127933proudhon was a misogynist wifebeater who wanted to kill all the jews, don't think he's an authority on morality
>>30128632based
>>30128516Which makes talking about whether he was right or left kind of meaningless to me. In a contemporary context, Georgism is much farther right than the economic systems of any first world country. >I would hope it's because you believe they are unjust or lead to a hellish society, not because you believe they are completely impossible or have never existed in the pastI don't believe outcomes matter. Ancap would probably result in a horrible society, but would still be principally correct. If you showed me irrefutable proof that slavery made society better, I would still be against it.
>>30126226Yes?Xi has reversed many market reforms from the Dengist era. The economy is overwhelmingly state controlled
MarxLeninLuxembergSankaraHobbesSchmittHumeSchopenhauerJaynesHofstadterDennettDworkinBostromLandLinkolaGotamaSun TzuShang YangMusashiTolkien. Yes, I'm serious. His view on fairytales as an escape from life, and Christ as the fairytale made history that gave us the greatest escape - escape from death - is really beautiful to me. I'm not even Christian.I used to find Ted interesting, but he really is just a frustrated eco chud repressor with no practical solution to technological progress. At least the feedback loops pre-Moldbug influenced Land describes have been largely realized, even if they're horrible. Ted seems to expect people to voluntarily disable all modern technology in a world of competing nation states where no party is advantaged by doing so. Even deliberate sabotage would basically require dedicating to the same system in earnest. Zerzan is worse.
And yet, you're browsing twitter. Curious! Sounds like a skill issue.
>>30126040it’s always like the brokest bitches who are going on about “their intellectual influences”. bitch you work at walmart, none of this matters.
>>30129265You do realize the liberal in liberal arts means free, right? As in "I own enough slaves to not need to work and can focus on shit like philosophy".
>>30126040For me it's like Oscar WildeCamus (Kafka and Beckett can tag along)Edmond RostandI mean I wanted to add films and games too but authorship is more complicated to establish. I guess Satoshi Kon, Miyazaki, Kubrick, Park Chan-Wook...And music would be too long.
>>30129359Also yeah if your biggest influences are political philosophers and stuff you're deeply wrong. Art and beauty should matter more.
>>30126065Youre lucky and arent missing anything of value
>>30129265>where you work determines your intelligence>surely no other factors could play into this!
>>30129373Everything is political because all things ultimately depend on power. Artists all get their skills, money, materials and cultural influences from somewhere.
>>30129426Yeah, I know.That everything is political doesn't mean we should only care about politics and hyperfocus on it to the detriment of art.I'd rather listen and learn to play Chopin than read some autistic ramblings about how society should be - not like I can do much more than have good politics (which I have.)
>>30129445There is no apolitical art, even if politics aren't the majority of things to discuss about aesthetics. Most art appreciation is just consuming media anyway.
>>30129465I never said there is.Depends what you mean by consume.But then again this board is legitimately full of MCU consoomers.
>>30129426>thinking powdered wigs were in fashion in 1492leftoids not be retards challenge (impossible difficulty)
>>30128322>>30128344i do two digit pilled posts and no one has no idea of what im talking aboutpls guys
>>30129549>psychoanalysing a meme because it made you butthurt
>>30129564>calling someone a retard is psychoanalysing
>>30126040why’re racist trannies like u
>>30129578>being this mad
>>30127617>Marx isn't relevant>but a guy who talks about the power dynamics of tribal societies 5000 years ago is
