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i find it pointless to partake in sexual activity as a man, it's a waste of time since it is so lackluster, it's almost comical that men have any sex drive at all.
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straight guys way overimagine girl orgasms, like they're nice but you don't need to fucking transition over it
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>>27725714
Not that you asked, but since you went out of your way to talk about what males get out of sex, as a moid I've started doing kegels specifically to delay my orgasm for her. So. I know my place as a human dildo, I guess.
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>>27725714
You sure you don't wanna experiment with non-ts ways of cumming like a girl, OP?
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>>27725767
they seem incredible and male sexuality in general is so useless that the idea of a man being such a coomer is pathetic. it's like a cripple talking about sports, a man with no taste buds discussing food. it's just sad
a man's life has absolutely no purpose, pretty much everything i do is a sad imitation to cope

>>27725788
that doesn't even seem enjoyable. sex as a man is just stressful and miserable

>>27725803
i've given anal a try for many years, haven't ever enjoyed it
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>>27725714
Idk like 7-15 seconds
t. ftm
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>>27725843
>i've given anal a try for many years, haven't ever enjoyed it
Not that anon, but I didn't realize by "sexual activity as a man" you meant amab at all, as in, including the prostate.

I heard it's different for everyone. If you can't get much out of anal, even after going into it patiently, and with an open mind, there's not much else you can do.

Here's a horrifying thread I saw the other day about... prostate removal. Most of the thread is fetishy on that very harsh topic. But I did see some dialogue about the prostate atrophying on HRT, ways to maybe help that, etc:
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/27389533/#27392672

And here's a link I saw about getting into prostate orgasms, if you can be arsed after your effort thus far:
https://wiki.malegspot.com/index.php?title=Getting_Started

comment I got the link from:
https://old.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/w1o5y0/coconutbs_prostate_story/igms8on/
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>>27725714
Idk it's kind of the lead up that's the good bit
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I’m ftm and I love having male orgasms. I cum so hard. It’s like one full body burst. So satisfying. I barely even remember what female orgasms felt like and have no desire to go back.
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>>27725714
Really good ~8 seconds after I’d guess around 8 mins zerking on average. Depends on time constraints.
Pre-t there was no build up required but absolutely no payoff, couldn’t even tell if they were happening or not and there was no change in arousal before/after. Generally never felt real arousal until testosterone what felt like activated my sex drive
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>>27725913
same as most amabs

>>27725936
>but I didn't realize by "sexual activity as a man" you meant amab at all, as in, including the prostate.
what did you mean then?

>I heard it's different for everyone. If you can't get much out of anal, even after going into it patiently, and with an open mind, there's not much else you can do.
last resort is hrt and really trying to feminize my sexuality. that's my only option

>But I did see some dialogue about the prostate atrophying on HRT, ways to maybe help that, etc:
it seems mtfs can still enjoy it even with an atrophied prostate

>And here's a link I saw about getting into prostate orgasms, if you can be arsed after your effort thus far:
i've read that, any link you send me about prostate play i have likely encountered before.

>>27725948
yeah at least you can do it without post nut clarity absolutely destroying the experience
male sexuality feels like playing russian roulette where at any moment you can fuck it over, it's like if when you ate every bite could be the one that causes you to vomit all the food out

>>27725965
>>27725995
how do you feel afterwards? after every cum i just feel like shit. i feel tired, physically exhausted, and my dick is just uncomfortable
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>>27725714
Not you again nonny. Take your pills and quit sperging over the female orgasm
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>>27726042
>>but I didn't realize by "sexual activity as a man" you meant amab at all, as in, including the prostate.
>what did you mean then?
I thought using your dick was the "male" orgasm, and bottoming was a "female" orgasm. In this way, both types of tranners can experience either.
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>>27725714
You make this thread every week. Have you seen a psychiatrist?
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>>27726075
>>27726109
wtf, newfag here, how can i find the previous threads
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>>27726122
Search for female orgasm on some archive site. This guy had an ex girlfriend who had screaming orgasms and now he's fixated on it.
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>>27726134
Oh, I didn't know there was lore not conveyed here. Well I do think anon should seek therapy, then.

You know, it's only americlaps that think there's a stigma surrounding therapy. It's the suggested resource for a reason.
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>>27726042
>how do you feel afterwards? after every cum i just feel like shit. i feel tired, physically exhausted, and my dick is just uncomfortable
I guess fine? I don’t get that uncomfortable feeling unless I beat it to something completely degenerate, or if I was having meaningless sex with an uggo just to bust.
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>>27726075
would taking my pills not be me trying to chase the thing i am sperging about?

>>27726109
i have not. why a psychiatrist over a therapist?

>>27726093
sounds like we are in agreement? you asked if i've tried cumming like a girl and i responded i tried through bottoming
i think mindset, sexuality, and hormones all play a role in a truly "female" orgasm

>>27726134
>This guy had an ex girlfriend who had screaming orgasms and now he's fixated on it.
more than just one girl, i can't talk to a women about sex without getting painfully envious

>>27726152
>You know, it's only americlaps that think there's a stigma surrounding therapy.
only american men, even. in my experience women in general seem to be more open to it, but many just see it as a waste of money since anything related to healthcare in america isn't cheap, or they do not want it on record in case it comes to fuck them over in the future.

>>27726185
do you feel tired at all?
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>>27726042
>how do you feel afterwards?
Like I’ve scratched an itch. Feels satisfying and typically staves off the horny but if it’s late night I might go again, after a refractory period. The refractory period is also from testosterone never had it pre-t. I say “scratch an itch” cause giving into it makes you wanna do it more. Then I’d be zerkin off three times a day but I feel better resisting temptation.
No post nut shame unless I was zerking to somethin awful
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>>27726393
that sounds very closely to how it goes for me. what you enjoy is what i despise, but dysphoria could do that to someone.
>No post nut shame unless I was zerking to somethin awful
i don't feel shame i just feel emotionally numb for a bit then start feeling worse and worse
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>>27725714
oh hey you’re back. I never measured but I think about the same when it’s not multiples. and I could have multiples before transition but idk how to trigger them really I just get lucky sometimes. not looking at porn seems to help.
>>27725767
yes
>>27725936
I think atrophy of that and the whole erectile mechanism is a big part of changes people see.
>>27726042
>last resort is hrt and really trying to feminize my sexuality
if you want to transition do it but don’t kill yourself over orgasms
>male sexuality feels like playing russian roulette where at any moment you can fuck it over
I really don’t get this can’t you just lay there for a while then keep going if you want another?
>after every cum i just feel like shit
why do men always say this?
>>27726134
he knows girls are more expressive and likely to overdo it right?
>>27726391
>mindset, sexuality, and hormones
yes
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>>27726630
>if you want to transition do it but don’t kill yourself over orgasms
transitioning purely for sexual gratification
>I really don’t get this can’t you just lay there for a while then keep going if you want another?
refractory period kills any desire i have for sex. i can't even get erect for 10-15 minutes and the second cum is just uncomfortable
>why do men always say this?
post nut clarity is a curse, why do you think i hate male sexuality?

>he knows girls are more expressive and likely to overdo it right?
yes but from all angles outside of the fakest of porn it all seems very much accurate and consistent
a girl with a high sex drive is a humbling sight to see
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>>27726042
>yeah at least you can do it without post nut clarity absolutely destroying the experience
I'm a guy
I just prefer the time spent feeling good than when it hits and the end and leaves. You sound wrong though. Why so extreme? Surely sex is not that awful for you? Why do it then?
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>>27726672
>transitioning purely for sexual gratification
yeah I know you don’t want to be a woman you just want female sex parts it’s very unusual I don’t know what to tell you
>can’t get erect
why do you need to be erect? the way I did it before transitioning I tucked everything into tight underwear and used a hitachi. it tried to expand but couldn’t really get properly erect and I didn’t worry about it.
>post nut clarity
I still don’t understand what this is and never have
>a girl with a high sex drive is a humbling sight to see
yeah it’s awesome…
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>>27725714
ftm here, about 5 seconds and i have a long refractory period, was this way before T and after T. i had huge post nut shame pre-T, after T i only have post nut shame if i penetrate myself and play with nipples (never did that before T)
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>>27726746
there was a thread on here about sad nipple syndrome on here the other day and I wonder if it and post nut shame are related. both involve oxytocin so maybe.
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>>27725714
hi again female orgasm anon. i’ve commented in your threads before. i want you to know that i think you’re the only person i’ve ever encountered who actually should transition for purely sexual reasons. this will never stop eating you unless you try something different.
>t. mtf, post op, 1-1.5 minute orgasms
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>>27726758
funny name, i'd never heard of that. maybe, since oxytocin is supposed to be a "bonding" hormone, when you're masturbating there is no partner to bond with, so without a target the oxytocin just makes you feel off
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Also FtM. I timed mine with a stopwatch a few times (because nerd), and it averaged around 10 seconds. This was pre-T, and I'm pretty certain it has not changed.

>>27725965
I honestly don't know what to think when I hear other FtMs say this. I briefly had a change to my orgasms when I started T where it became "one burst," but it seemed VERY localized to my groin and I lost the "full body" feeling. I didn't really like it, and I'm glad it mostly went back to how it felt pre-T after a few weeks.

I do think it feels easier to feel "finished" now though, whereas before I could orgasm repeatedly and not feel "done" and it was frustrating.

>>27726042
>yeah at least you can do it without post nut clarity absolutely destroying the experience
Idk anon, I usually feel kinda icky afterward, I just immediately swap to doing something else like playing a game.

Anyway anon, I don't know that you should take it as a sign that someone has "better" orgasms because they make more noise. Some people are just loud fucking assholes. There is nothing about any orgasm I've ever had that was so good it was necessary to fucking scream. And I'm into denial, so I've had orgasms after edging for days. Screamers are just dramatic cunts.
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>>27727059
nah i’m >>27726765 and i scream and cry out involuntarily when it’s good, it sounds like you have underwhelming orgasms is all
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>>27726433
Yeah makes sense. Why don't you take estrogen it'll totally overhaul your orgasms. Very interesting to me how much they are affected by hormones, more than just physical changes but not necessarily mental changes.
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>>27726682
>Why do it then?
because i want to like it and i have a sex drive

>>27726730
>yeah I know you don’t want to be a woman you just want female sex parts it’s very unusual I don’t know what to tell you
i want female sex parts, hormones, and i would not mind the rest of it. i'd feel weird as a man with a vagina

>>post nut clarity
>I still don’t understand what this is and never have
i cum and then i feel emotionally numb and sad and self hating and tired

>yeah it’s awesome…
you have no idea how much it hurts to hear that

>>27726758
>sad nipple syndrome
yeah, when i touch my nipples it feels nice for a bit then i stop thinking about sex and start feeling lonely and sad. it seems to happen mostly among men? i've not heard many women say this happens to them, which i find really strange

>>27726765
>i want you to know that i think you’re the only person i’ve ever encountered who actually should transition for purely sexual reasons.
thanks? i would not mind being a woman otherwise, but this is really about sex for me.

>t. mtf, post op, 1-1.5 minute orgasms
i'm disappointed in myself for not being able to recognize you. but that's the sort of stuff i make these threads for. if i had sex with you

>>27727152
god i'm jealous lol

>>27727171
>Why don't you take estrogen it'll totally overhaul your orgasms.
i'm clearly a fucking weird pervert who just wants to have better orgasms
i'm a walking insult to trans women
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>>27727223
>i'm clearly a fucking weird pervert who just wants to have better orgasms
>i'm a walking insult to trans women
What kind of cuck are you the fuck you takin estrogen for your own desires have to do with anyone else. This is a free country and you spend your money on what you want fucker. If you don't like zerking off and you want sweet female orgasms then get em christ. No one elses business but yours and your soon to be feminized cock
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>>27727223
>i'm a walking insult to trans women
as a trans woman i sincerely think you should do whatever you want, I honestly think you should at least take hrt and manmode just to experience how it changes your sex drive and orgasms. it totally eliminated my post-sex shame/dysphoria and improved my orgasms immeasurably.
>i'm disappointed in myself for not being able to recognize you
you can call me leaf if you like :) that way you’ll know who i am in future threads. you and i have talked about hrt and styles of getting off before (like frotting instead of jerking or w/e)
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>>27727223
>want female sex parts, hormones, and i would not mind the rest of it
>would not mind being a woman otherwise
why do they keep saying these things then trying to argue they aren't transgender
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>>27727410
Well you aren't transgender until you get on hormones and transition
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>>27727277
>This is a free country and you spend your money on what you want fucker.
there's a whole moral panic about trans people and i resemble the strawman used to demonize trans women

>>27727282
>as a trans woman i sincerely think you should do whatever you want, I honestly think you should at least take hrt and manmode just to experience how it changes your sex drive and orgasms. it totally eliminated my post-sex shame/dysphoria and improved my orgasms immeasurably.
for as much as i obsess about sex, i am not always horny when i think about this stuff. if i don't get a better sex life i would consider transition a failure even if i were passing in stealth otherwise

>you can call me leaf if you like :) that way you’ll know who i am in future threads. you and i have talked about hrt and styles of getting off before (like frotting instead of jerking or w/e)
i do think i remember you a bit. some anons and some posts stick with me for life.

>>27727410
all i talk about is sex, sex, and more sex.
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>>27727468
semantics are kind of dumb so she has gender dysphoria
>>27727500
everybody is sexual and in light of that we all resemble that strawman
>i am not always horny when i think about this stuff
you mean you want to be a girl when it's not orgasms too you just happen to want a girl's sex experience too?
>sex, sex, and more sex
funny how sex is involved in a sex change isn't it?
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>>27727152
>involuntarily
So you'd make noise as a teenager even if your parents were nearby and could hear you?

Nah, you're a dramatic cunt.
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>>27728079
Let's assume a girl's orgasms are better. Then why wouldn't anyone want them? Who wants worse orgasm?
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>>27725714
mtf. way longer, way better way more intense, and i can also have several in a row. i think my record is a second full one only after like 15 more seconds lol. i would never go back.
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>>27728079
>you mean you want to be a girl when it's not orgasms too you just happen to want a girl's sex experience too?
i mean that i constantly think about having sex as a woman even when i'm not horny

>funny how sex is involved in a sex change isn't it?
yes but for me it's the main and most important reason compared

>>27728111
some people have to cover their mouths to avoid making noise during sex

>>27728207
men seem almost proud of being sexually crippled

>>27728250
when did you start hrt and how long until you've noticed any changes?
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>>27728339
5 years ago. I was like ace for three years... then two years ago I suddenly developed an entire new libido. can feel it through my entire body now. only problem now is that my spouse has like 1/5th of my sex drive lol ;_; im a top btw
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>>27725714
they are longer and more intense for sure, but libido is much much lower, which is also nice

brain orgasms are so so so much better than any nonsense down there though

ive been stuck in it for over an hour before, rolling waves and endless writhing in unimaginable pleasure and happiness, crying my eyes out the whole time, interspersed with moaning and giggles

oh mortal lewding is so small by comparison

its also pure and no mess!

bless thc oil drops for helping me discover this beautiful gift that i can touch anytime i want now after a year of practice, though the above situation where its more than 10mins or so is pretty difficult to reach, mind gets very easily distracted and you'll fall out of it, best to just get lost in loud headphones with progressive trance megamixes

oh its amazing!
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>>27728401
a common story. hrt kills sex drive then it brings it back. 5 years is a long time though

>only problem now is that my spouse has like 1/5th of my sex drive lol
high libido women drive me insane, hurts a bit

>im a top btw
the rare mtf top. is it hard for you to maintain an erection?

>>27728413
that sounds more like a drug high than sex, if you're relying on thc
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>>27728413
>but libido is much much lower, which is also nice
On what planet?

Women are sexually stunted, not men. Their crappy libido is just a waste of genitals. Would literally never go back after taking T.
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i'm a cis male who's never taken any kind of HRT and my orgasms last around a minute and always have. i can never relate to any other guys when they talk about their orgasms because it seems like theirs are much shorter and worse than mine. interpret that how you will.
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>>27728463
>Women are sexually stunted, not men. Their crappy libido is just a waste of genitals.
women often have a lower libido than men, and some have never even had an orgasm in their life. i feel bad for them after meeting so many women who've seemed to figure sex out, but women have so much higher potential for sex than men. a man's sex drive is little more than a distraction

>Would literally never go back after taking T
could you describe the difference?

>>27728498
is this through your dick? it's incredibly rare for men.
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>>27728456
it's not hard to maintain for me, thankfully. my biggest concern is shrinkage. even though I use it pretty regularly, I've still lost like basically an inch, 6->5

yeah the amt of time it took was crazy. probably also some psychological stuff I had to work through though cuz sex as a cishet dude before was kinda traumatizing
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Where did you all get this idea that the female orgasm lasts longer? I can confirm to you it is maybe 10 seconds max
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>>27728543
>is this through your dick? it's incredibly rare for men.
yes, although i am uncircumcised and i masturbate by stimulating the head with my foreskin instead of masturbating the "normal" way. when i masturbate using other methods i find it's less satisfying.
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>>27725714
like 10 seconds ig (ftm)
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>>27728552
is there any specific ways you masturbate? do you bottom at all?
do you top men or women?

>yeah the amt of time it took was crazy.
i think i'm too old to take too much time. most people who get any sexual changes transitioned somewhat early, later transitioners don't really seem to get anything out of HRT

>probably also some psychological stuff I had to work through though cuz sex as a cishet dude before was kinda traumatizing
well at least now you get to enjoy being a girl with a dick, so you've made it.

>>27728560
>Where did you all get this idea that the female orgasm lasts longer?
for some of the women here, first hand accounts
for me, second hand.

>>27728641
i am circumcised and that method is not possible for me
it's hard for me to cum unless i just stroke it, other ways are more stimulating

>>27728685
pre or post T?
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>>27728801
>i am circumcised
This is why your orgasms suck. I'm sorry to tell you this.
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>>27728826
there are circumcised trans women who still have earth shattering orgasms. most of them probably from bottoming, but even their dicks get more sensitive
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>>27725714
Oh a while ago I had the most successful anal orgasm I ever had and it gave me like... aftershocks for like 5 or 10 minutes (was hard keeping track of time tbdesu).
Jackin' it is the same old same old and I just do it habitually for a couple weeks before I get so disgusted by it that I manage to not do it for a couple weeks.
But you mentioned you tried anal and never enjoyed it, it comes kinda naturally to me so I don't know how to help you sorry
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i'm 2yrs T ftm and they last like 4 seconds for me. occasionally they'll randomly be super long (15secs) but those orgasms always suck and aren't intense at all.
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>>27728543
>could you describe the difference?
I have no reason to think I had a "low" libido for a female, I could masturbate multiple times a week if I wanted to. But except for specific times in my cycle (ovulation and right before my period started, if I remember correctly), there was never any actual "drive" to it. Like eating a chocolate bar for fun vs. actually being hungry.

I also had almost NO clue who I was attracted to. A beautiful person was no different than a beautiful painting. I even considered the idea that I was asexual for a bit. No one was ever "hot." I wanted sex but had trouble connecting that desire to someone outside of myself.

I don't think I was weird. You see plenty of research on women's sexuality being less visual, more emotional, on women being more critical of men's appearance than men are of women's appearance, etc. and it all jives for me with how I felt pre-T. If you can't look at other people and say, "I wanna breed them" on a gut level, of course it's going to result in you nitpicking their appearance more than you would otherwise. It's all intellectual attraction and not physical.

Of course I've known some major sluts who were insanely sexually driven women, but they were exceptions.
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i actually stopped masturbating a few months after i started hrt since the orgasms from genital stimulation are super underwhelming for me now. not a big problem i actually enjoy my way more controllable libido now.
anal however is incredible but i can only cum during sex for some reason so i stopped using dildos
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>>27728917
how often do you do anal? all things i've heard about anal are that you have to really be in the mood

>>27728995
>I have no reason to think I had a "low" libido for a female,
i don't know what low libido for a female is, honestly. they're all over the place. some girls never even masturbate, others are nymphomaniacs, and it's not set in stone. more than once i've known a girl who was very low sex drive in the past but later became very hypersexual.

>on women being more critical of men's appearance than men are of women's appearance,
is that true? i've always thought men are more visual and thus more scrutinizing of appearance

>Of course I've known some major sluts who were insanely sexually driven women, but they were exceptions.
they are exceptions but i've met enough that i could be envious of their existence. knowing my luck, if i were a girl i'd probably be in the 1/6 that is anorgasmic

>>27729091
>i can only cum during sex for some reason
that's really common. sexuality is complicated. maybe that could change one day, if you so wish it to
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>>27729192
I would say anal is about once every 2 months for me, once a month if I'm particularly down for it. But it really depends on whether I masturbate normally or not, since it really kills my bottom drive. But when I don't jack it for a while eventually I start getting reallllly aroused, try to contain it, and fail miserably.
Oh I should probably add, I'm not on hormones *yet*
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>>27729413
that is a pretty common technique for men getting into anal. they have to ignore their dicks
i wish you a successful transition
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>>27728111
i’ve never lived with my parents since transitioning, i haven’t been a teenager in a long time lol. i also don’t usually cum that hard solo, my partner draws it out of me in which case we both appreciate my loudness.
>>27728826
i was cut and still have excellent orgasms (both pre op on e, and post op). circumcision doesn’t help, but it’s not the end of the world.
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>>27728207
men seem to like what they have and be horrified at the prospect of being a woman
>>27728498
>>27728641
when I started masturbating I tucked and ground against something and it wasn't until I discovered stroking it that I understood how most men felt. then I cut my penis off proving that I never really understood men.
>>27728543
>women often have a lower libido than men, and some have never even had an orgasm in their life. i feel bad for them after meeting so many women who've seemed to figure sex out, but women have so much higher potential for sex than men. a man's sex drive is little more than a distraction
it is awesome...
>>27728560
I think actual studies with sensors and such will confirm orgasm contractions tend to be longer in women but we're talking like 5 vs 8 seconds. not multiple minutes. that's not the same as mental feelings though nor does it necessarily account for multiple orgasms. I know if I'm stimulated just right I can get my legs to shake for minutes but it's rare. usually I cum for like 10 seconds and then I go do something else.
>>27728917
I never had aftershocks from stroking the penis before surgery but can from clitoral stimulation. never had orgasms just from vaginal but it helps to work in there while touching the clit. never tried anal. as I said above maybe or last time OP made this thread not looking at porn helps me a lot.
>>27728995
>could masturbate multiple times a week if I wanted to
>never any actual "drive" to it
about how it is for me as a trans woman minus the obvious cycle connection. I had a lot more trouble saying what I was attracted to pretransition. wanted to like men like a woman does not like a man does. it's much easier to express now.
>>27729791
I find I cum harder screaming into a pillow than if I contain it and be quiet (I hope my neighbors can't hear)

So OP after yet another one of these threads I have to ask what are you going to do about all this?
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>>27725714
tyey can have variable lengghts??? mine was always like 3 second and done
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>>27730489
>men seem to like what they have and be horrified at the prospect of being a woman
it just comes naturally to men. they embrace it since it is the product of thousands of years of evolution after all.
maybe if i didn't know about HRT i would not be so obsessed, i would be another man relishing in his useless sexuality, taking pride in being a sexual cripple

>it is awesome...
it must be. it's hard for me to watch without having an emotional breakdown

>So OP after yet another one of these threads I have to ask what are you going to do about all this?
i don't know. i would say "get therapy, stop masturbating, and start HRT" but i have been saying this for months.

>>27730587
mine are pretty short too, they start off the strongest and just get worse over time, last one i had today made me feel really awful
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>>27730489
>I find I cum harder screaming into a pillow than if I contain it and be quiet (I hope my neighbors can't hear)
yeah exactly! it’s better when you can just let your whole body and soul go with it. i hope your neighbors CAN hear >:3
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>>27730799
>maybe if i didn't know about HRT i would not be so obsessed
lots of men do know about HRT. some cope that it doesn't actually do anything and we're all lying. still not convinced most want it anyway. although I don't know to what degree they can really develop female sexuality. might be that whatever signals to trans women that we want hormones also allows that. (I have no clue what's going on with you though)
>get therapy, stop masturbating, and start HRT
stopping masturbating isn't how you get better orgasms but the therapy is probably a good idea and maybe the HRT if you really want to be a woman
>last one i had today
how many are you having in one day?
>>27730841
the neighbors are very loud I should punish them by making them listen and develop a complex like OP
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>>27731097
>lots of men do know about HRT.
they know about it but they don't know the physical effects they just think that it makes you sterile and makes you grow bitch tits.

>although I don't know to what degree they can really develop female sexuality.
some people probably develop it easier than others

>stopping masturbating isn't how you get better orgasms but the therapy is probably a good idea and maybe the HRT if you really want to be a woman
not masturbating so i don't feel like shit afterwards and make these threads in fits of post nut clarity rage

>how many are you having in one day?
depends. some days 0 other days i masturbate 3 or more times a day

>I should punish them by making them listen and develop a complex like OP
must be hot from the other side, but it's just agony and resentment from this one. you could probably ruin my entire week if you spent a night with me, i'd wake up every day with the memory burned into my head, i'd probably be unable to even wear the clothes on my back that day without remembering the night
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>>27731344
I mean I guess not masturbating probably will reduce the number of threads you make but you have to practice to get good at orgasming and despite taking potshots at you every now and then I do like reading them and talking about sex and I hope you get better.
>3 or more times a day
well that seems excessive from here but as long as that's not like an everyday thing where you're neglecting your life it's probably fine
on the other hand since you don't seem to be able to masturbate without thinking about this and
>memory burned into my head
yeah I really think you need that therapist
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>>27731596
>despite taking potshots at you every now and then I do like reading them and talking about sex
i think these discussions would be better if it was less focused on my intense vagina envy

>well that seems excessive from here
i think that's normal for a guy but it might get lower with age

>on the other hand since you don't seem to be able to masturbate without thinking about this and
this is a really big obsession for me. a girl once spoke to me about her sex life online and i had to stop talking to her and just lay down.

>yeah I really think you need that therapist
a therapist can't bring me to earth shattering orgasm though
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>>27731697
how can it not be focused on your vagina envy? isn't that the point? I guess you want a focus on having better orgasms? might be too late in this thread desu unless somebody else comes along as I can't give much actual advice about masturbating penises anymore, but I'll try/
have you tried the wand? if so how do you use it? that was a big one for me pre transition.
>a therapist can't bring me to earth shattering orgasm though
wait until you find out about hysteria
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>>27731779
>how can it not be focused on your vagina envy?
well better sex discussion where i'm not a weird creep and bitter mess. i've had a lot of these threads and my emotions towards most of the people in it is a burning envy that i can't really shake

>might be too late in this thread desu unless somebody else comes along as I can't give much actual advice about masturbating penises anymore, but I'll try/
there's been some posts about how trans women pre hrt would masturbate, you really have to treat yourself like a woman if you want to cum like a woman, it seems.
doesn't explain mtf tops, but even they i feel have some fembrain or femininity that i am missing

>have you tried the wand? if so how do you use it? that was a big one for me pre transition.
i've used it before, i don't know how to use it beyond just placing it on my body and moving it around.

>wait until you find out about hysteria
hm?
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>>27731894
>envy
I think to some degree you're imagining us as having something that we don't really.
>masturbation
idk anything about tops they don't make sense to me but I guess we should be thankful for them
and yeah you do have to treat yourself like a woman. I think I've said it here but I always tucked it with tight panties and used the vibrator on top.
>hysteria
victorian (and later) doctors thought forced orgasm was the cure for hysteria
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>>27731970
>I think to some degree you're imagining us as having something that we don't really.
i'm obsessing over it but from what i observe it really seems as good as i think it is.

>used the vibrator on top.
yeah i've noticed that masturbating through clothing is a completely different feeling. in some ways better
jerking off to ejaculation sucks. everything about being a man feels disposable and this is no different. men are the disposable gender, even in sex. we're single use cum shots for women.

>victorian (and later) doctors thought forced orgasm was the cure for hysteria
ohh that
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>>27732079
do you touch the rest of your body? I know you don't have them but you have nipples anyway I love touching my boobs while I masturbate. inner thighs are a good spot too. the extra stimulation really helps me along. I'm kinda freaky and use nipple clamps a lot...
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>>27732108
i try to touch more of my body than just my dick but they aren't nearly as sensitive as my dick, and they aren't erogenous zones for me. my nipples don't feel good in a sexual way. if i touch them too long i start feeling weird like i mentioned earlier

erogenous zones are usually more sensitive for women anyways, just another way male sexuality is a joke.
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>>27732132
>erogenous zones are usually more sensitive for women
well that's probably true
I think you said above you wouldn't mind being a woman so maybe think more about that... you know how to become one...
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>>27732462
>wouldn't mind being a woman
putting it a bit lightly given how much mental energy i put into whining about how i much i envy how women have sex



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