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I don't know, but I think it's just a question of time.
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>>25780434
no lol LGBT's have always opposed pedophilia. Right wingers trying to link and compare LGBT people and pedos is just propaganda from a few isolated cases that they pretend is somehow the rule and not the rare exception
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>>25780485
Forgot to mention but the term MAP (minor attracted person) literally originated as a /pol/ psyop to oppose LGBT rights by trying to make people think its a legitimate movement and not a bunch of fringe pedophiles under the delusion they are doing no harm
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So I work for a big tech company and I can see people's search history and do bigquery on it, and you would not believe the percentage of people that are MAP. It's straight up like 60% of men and 40% of women. The "big lie" is that everyone is grossed out by it, but most people just suppress it.

So yes, they do, but there needs to be a big fucking wall drawn between those whose brain is ATTRACTED to it, versus those who actively try to do it. Once we get proper VR worlds, we can treat these people by giving them all the simulated kiddy fiddling they want.
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>>25780434
>Polarising title
>Nothing really happened
every time
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>>25780434
no and neither does this thread
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>>25780629
>So I work for a big tech company and I can see people's search history and do bigquery on it,
I hate the modern world
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>>25780692
Speak for yourself.
I would rather have LGBP than LGBT any day.
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>>25780434
why are there two of these threads
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>>25780497
So /pol/ stays winning? They created the ngger'd pride flag too and pooner faggots started demanding that it become the official flag
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>>25780768
>t. bipedo
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>>25780926
Thanks that’s a compliment
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>>25780434
Yes, they're already here, so we should stop denying reality. It's like how the furry community tries to deny it's zoo population. Even in ancient Greece, there was an intersection of the two groups.
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>>25780485
>lol LGBT's have always opposed pedophilia.
Explain why post may 68 French intellectuals who supported lgbt(like foucault) also supported the removal of age of consent? They even signed multiple petitions against age of consent.
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>>25782062
how many of them were lgbt?
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>>25782079
Almost all of them. They were a reaction to conservative(culturally) communists in france at that time. A lot of them defended pedophilia using the same arguments that one would normally deploy to defend homosexuality.
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>>25782121
got a source for that? arguing in defense of homosexuality doesn't make you homosexual
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>>25780434
nope. every other letter in LGBT is about consenting and choosing what you want to do with your body. a child cant consent. "maps" belong in the creepy predator community so keep those pieces of shit out of LGBT
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>>25780629
>you would not believe
Yeah, I don't.

>>25780689
Right, just a person in a position of influence pushing bullshit abuser-abused reversing narratives about the poor, poor, pedos who are really just "born that way" and who just need to be "treated" (pushign the idea that it's a medical rather than personal flaw, which if generally accepted will enable doctors to unilaterally "treat" all sorts of non pedo people, and most pedos will still be getting off scot free).

>>25782062
In theory it's because they were principled anarchists who believed that the state should not interfere in personal affairs such as sexuality. In practice it's because they were glowies who wanted to expand sex trafficking to create a larger culture of trauma and dissociation.

>>25782079
Doesn't matter, even if they were all the flameyist cum guzzling gigahomos they still wouldn't speak for all lgbt people.
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>>25782131
I don't have one definitive source for that because no one would research on that. It's a weird moment in history that leftists want to bury and forget.
But you can go through people who signed those petitions and you'll find that most of them were gays who were repressed by welfare state(one of the reason foucault hated welfare state and came up with the concept of biopolitics)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws
You can also read the book this pic >>25782062 is from which is vagessa springora's consent.
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>>25780434
the only place predators belong is HELL
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>>25782165
>because they were principled anarchists who believed that the state should not interfere in personal affairs
Normal anarchism is seldom about "people should do whatever they want". Pomos are mostly influenced by reactionaries like nietzsche and a hate for the welfare state.
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>>25782209
of the few listed on wikipedia, they all did homsexual stuff yeah.
but there are supposed to be 68 right?
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>>25780434
BASED PROFESSOR
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No but, after hearing what this person said that got them fired, it sounded like they were more talking about getting pedos into therapy.
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>>25782335
obviously, we all know it's just intentional misinterpreting stuff to rage over lgbt groomers
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>>25782309
They were hugely popular intellectuals who rose from the ashes of may 68 events. The French public treated them like intellectual heros and they regularly appeared on TV(think of how Jordon Peterson for analogy). Gabriel Matzneff, who drafted up some of those petitions, openly talked about fucking little girls on TV and everyone applauded him. It was fucking crazy back then in Europe.
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>>25780434
If pol keeps memeing it, than it becomes real.
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>>25780629
Okay groomer
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>>25782388
that's just what france is like
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>>25780434
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>>25780434
No.
/thread
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>>25780629
60% seems extremely high for me to believe this. Unless they're searching gor straight up illegal shit how would you even know? If they are searching for illegal shit they'd probably find it and isn't it law to report that? Where are the arrests?
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>>25780629
I'd believe this if you had specified that most of the men were into like, 16-18 year olds to get categorized as that and most of the women were into 8-14 year olds to get there.
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>>25780629
>Once we get proper VR worlds, we can treat these people by giving them all the simulated kiddy fiddling they want.
just give them a bullet to the head before that happens honestly
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>>25782412
It becomes real in the mind of a few reactionary death cultists.
That said almost nothing in this thread is real, it's all discord black propaganda LARP.
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>>25782388
And these same pomos influenced American academia so no wonder you get people like OP Pic related.
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>>25782209
>They were hugely popular intellectuals who rose from the ashes of may 68 events. The French public treated them like intellectual heros and they regularly appeared on TV(think of how Jordon Peterson for analogy). Gabriel Matzneff, who drafted up some of those petitions, openly talked about fucking little girls on TV and everyone applauded him. It was fucking crazy back then in Europe.

So a guy talked about wanting to fuck little girls and you're blaming LGBTs for that? I thought they were all supposed to be gay? Why aren't you talking about wanting to kill all the straights?
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>>25782512
Give them floggings and agricultural labor and good food and community and then let the humility, responsibility, health, and empathy grow.
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>>25780434
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>>25782568
you're so stupid mel
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>>25780629
I know a lot of people like looking at hentai with under 18 characters and that's pretty disgusting
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>>25782551
They were lgbt intellectuals who became rebellious due to how the welfare state and French socialists treated them, and then began to see any kind of restrictions on sexual relations as the state repressing them. Western Lgbt academia is deeply indebted to their intellectual contributions.
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>>25782770
>They were lgbt intellectuals
>Man having sex with little girls

Again, how was he gay anon? Why are you blaming gays instead of accusing all straights for being pedos?
Are you going to say Epstein was LGBT too now to pass the buck?
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>>25782826
Oh my God why are you so fucking dense. Go follow the reply chain from >>25782062
I'm not even a /pol/tard. I'm not blaming lgbt. I only disagree with " lol LGBT's have always opposed pedophilia" stance from this guy >>25780485. I showed him how many prominent intellectuals from 70s/80s/90s were gay and were against the age of consent.
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>>25780434
You literally still have this thread still up.
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>>25782722
mel?
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>>25780629
What other crazy shit can you tell us about normies search history?
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>>25782446
Incest has also been legal in france and spain ever since napolean said sibling fucker rights all the way back in 1810.
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>>25782062
They’re french
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>>25782880
but how was that dude you mentioned gay if he liked girls, why mention him
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>>25783749
Because he was gay too, you idiot. Why are you fixating on him when there are many other intellectuals who also signed those petitions. Venessa springora talks about how supporting pedophilia was the norm among progressives back then(especially lgbt intellectuals). I am not saying this proves that lgbt are secretly pedos are anything. It's just what it is. This also helps one to understand why a lot of academics like Pic related seem to support pedos because let's be honest the influence of French pomos can be felt everywhere in humanities/social sciences.
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>>25783834
"This group was full of gay pedophiles, like this adult male who fucked little girls" isn't very convincing sorry
I know everything about the french freaks too so no need to educate me you stupid cunt
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>>25780434
Based.
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>>25783932
He fucked little boys too lol
You're so fucking defensive of these lgbt intellectuals who wanted to make child sex legal. I wonder why
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>>25783956
>note bad post you made
>YOU MUST BE A FUCKING PEDOPHILE!!!!
maybe mention the pederasty if you wanted to make a better argument about gays being pedos? literally trying to help you out with your mission you stupid cunt
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>>25783983
like literally "this group of gay pedos fucked little boys" makes a far clearer case than what you said. especially when multiple posters were asking for verification and examples of the dozens of people in the group more than just foucault. why attack me and sperg out over this you fucking retard
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>>25783983
Not my fault you're a fucking retarded pedo with garbage comprehension skills. I already mentioned here>>25782209
that those involved with these anti-AoC shenanigans were mostly homos. Here homo doesn't imply they weren't bi. Now fuck off and read your foucault, pedo.
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>>25783996
>when multiple posters were asking for verification and examples of the dozens of people in the group more than just foucault.
I said just go through those retards who signed those petitions for a reason. If you're lazy enough to not even do that you're dumb. Even gender critical academics like Judith butler supported pedophilia back then. People like you glorify leftist/lgbt movements of history without understanding that they were problematic as fuck.
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If being pedo is a disease, it's a mental disorder.

You don't cure mental disorders under the new way of thinking, because they can't be cured. Instead you accomodate them. You consider for yourself what accomodation for pedos looks like.
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>>25784075
>You consider for yourself what accomodation for pedos looks like.
Impossible. I say just round up every pedo and gas them.
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>>25784099
Enjoy every pedo hiding from you until the day they snap and rape your kid when you're not looking. If you don't want child abuse to happen you need to prevent it.
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>>25784108
So preventing it by letting then roam freely and waste a part of national budget on coddling them?
It's a sexual inclination and as such you can't do anything about it other than to systematically remove them from society. It's no different than treating cancer, you have to kill cancerous cells before they affect the rest of your healthy cells.
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>>25782732
that's not pedophilia bro, regardless of your feelings, a drawing is not a real human being and most people don't watch real pedophile content at the same time they watch lolicon or shotacon.
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>>25784108
So prevent them by killing them…where’s the problem??
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>>25784123
>>25784134
How do you find the pedo's if they know you're just going to kill them when you do? What incentive do they have to come out instead of repress until they can't repress any more? You just want punishment after the crime has been committed. You don't care about prevention.
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>>25784127
Most people who are into lolicon shit are just closet pedos. I agree that they don't cause any harm by consooming lolicon eromanga.
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>>25784153
Not this "punishment doesn't work. We have to hug criminals and change their nature" bullshit. Harsh punishment works better than whatever you're trying to sell here(given when there are no systemic processes that compels people to commit those crimes, like black crime resulting from poverty). There's no way for pedos other than to repress their evil desires.
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>>25784127
>most people don't watch real pedophile content at the same time they watch lolicon or shotacon.
Well yeah one is illegal that'll get you locked up for eternity and the other is legal with an entire country of pedos dedicated to producing that garbage.
I hate Japan and their borderline pedo culture.
https://youtu.be/0df7k__KEHw
Also, in Japan lolicon isn't exclusively used for 2D. It refers to 3D too. They distinguish between lolicons who harm kids/respect kids. It's a disgusting country full of pedos who managed to hijack all subcultures.
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>>25784178
It's not that punishment doesn't work, it's that punishment doesn't prevent children from being harmed. But we already know that punishment is your goal, not protecting children, so it's no surprise you chose the former.
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>>25784153
>What incentive do they have to come out instead of repress until they can't repress any more?
They have to repress one way or the other. You can't cure them.
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>>25784331
>it's that punishment doesn't prevent children from being harmed.
It does deter the crime. Just cause it isn't perfect doesn't mean we have to completely do it away with punishment and establish a state of anarchy.

>But we already know that punishment is your goal, not protecting children, so it's no surprise you chose the former.
Your classic guilt tripping rhetoric doesn't work when it's clearly obvious you're more concerned with pedos than children.
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>>25784401
What does killing a pedo do to undo the child rape you're using as justification to kill them?
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>>25784420
It instills fear in pedos
Most child rape victims and their closed ones probably want to see that pedo executed in public.
It also symbolically shows that our society doesn't tolerate pedos
Like no shit whatever happened in past can't be undone but we can do shit to prevent future cases from occurring.
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>>25784459
>but we can do shit to prevent future cases from occurring
Like killing people AFTER they commit the crimes? You are retarded.
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>>25784500
>Like killing people AFTER they commit the crimes?
We can also kill them before they commit the crime by identifying people with pedo sexuality but our cucked liberal institutions won't allow that.
And what is your genius alternative? Make our society more pedo friendly?
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>>25784526
>identifying people with pedo sexuality
How do you suppose you do that?
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>>25784543
Create a ministry to deal with pedos first
Divert funds to research into whether we can identity pedos with telltale signs or brain scans or tests
In the meantime Let people report on those whom they suspect to be pedos and you check their browsing history
All those who are into lolicon/shotacon/junior idol shit will be our main targets
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>>25784459
I've spoken to two child sex abuse victims about my condition and both are chill with me, one is actually a very
close friend.

>>25780629
>we can treat these people by giving them all the simulated kiddy fiddling they want.
For me this seems like a very dystopian future where people like me are resigned to an inherently deformed sexual orientation. I don't want a safe outlet for my condition, I just want it gone. Unfortunately I seem to be the only person with this condition (that I've met) who is motivated enough to actually put forth strong, determined effort to reduce my sex drive. Joining Virtuous Pedophiles was a real eye opener for me; until recently I thought there were a ton of people like me who were equally mortified about this and active in the community, but it's slowly dawning on me that 95% of even the "virtuous" are pretty happy fantasizing in private and calling kids "cute" when talking about their attractions.

If we consider the three classical ethical systems (Deontological, Virtuous and Utilitarian), then most "virtuous pedophiles" should really be calling themselves "Consequence Utilitarian Pedophiles", but I guess that doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well.
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>>25780434
Never has, never will.
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>>25784637
>both are chill with me, one is actually a very close friend.
They are most probably disgusted by you behind your back. They are just being nice because they know you.
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>>25780497
Pretty much. They had to cheat with fallacies to get their way. (again).

"I have nothing REAL to boldly generalize and smear with, so I may as well make shit up and let poe's law do the rest".
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>>25784649
That's a hot take, you might want to wear some gloves.
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>>25784603
>creating a chinese tier surveilance state to own the globohomo china pedo's
god you people are hilarious, you can't make this shit up
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>>25780497
>term MAP (minor attracted person) literally originated as a /pol/ psyop
No, it originated from leftypol and pol did what it usually does.
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>>25784637
>Virtuous Pedophiles
Kill yourself
There's nothing virtuous about being a pedo. Virtuous? How conceited and uppity can you pedos even get. If you want to do the world a favor then kill yourself.
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>>25780629
>So I work for a big tech company and I can see people's search history
Yeah I really believe your lying ass. Imagine making up such a bullshit story just to get internet points from losers on 4chins. You are pathetic.
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>>25784713
You didn't even read the rest of my post, did you?
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>>25780434
Lgbt is for PEOPLE! MAPs aren't people, they're maggots. So, I'm afraid I'm gonna say nooo, they don't. Unless we made some new transmaggot thing. I don't know the current fuckin' lgbt chaos.
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>>25784155
>Most people who are into lolicon shit are just closet pedos
Got any sources to back that bullshit up with? Didnt think so. Sounds more like a projection. Kys pedo.
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>>25784637
>pedophile knows child sex abuse victims
Shocking. You are the absolute epitome of mental illness. Genuinely hope you are killed by the parents and friends of your victims.
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>>25784724
Nta but certain Google employees working on server side have easy access to our data. They can easily check how many people search for certain shit even if they can't access our individual data.
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>>25784737
>projection

Since we're psychoanalyzing in this thread, I'd say yours is a combination of reaction formation and a kind of "anti No True Scotsman". You are into lolicon, but you want to differentiate yourself from "true pedophiles" by slamming them as venomously as possible.
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>>25784737
Lack of scholarly research in this area is not the evidence either. I'm damn sure lolicons are fueled by the same pedo desires but they just confine it to 2D. It's like how many weebs are disgusted by 3D but are only into 2D girls. But the base sexual desire is the same.
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>>25784769
So no, you dont have any evidence.
>plebbit tourist
>illiterate
>armchair psychologist
>dunning-krueger
>namefag
>tripfag
>attention whore
>pedo
This board turned into cancer because of pieces of shit like you. Go back to /r/pedoacceptance and never return here.
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>>25784818
>source: just trust me bro
Wow what a convinced piece of data you've provided as a citation!
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>>25783603
only right answer
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>So no, you dont have any evidence.
Okay, so what possible reason could a person have for masturbating while looking at drawings of children? The burden of proof is actually on you.

>>25784824
>plebbit tourist
I've browsed 4chan far longer than I've browsed reddit. Judging by how excited you're getting about all this, I'd say you've been here on and off for less than a year and a half.
>illiterate
I don't think you know what this word means.
>armchair psychologist
You started it by bringing up the word "projection", damn hypocrite.
>namefag
Granted.
>tripfag
Redundant
>attention-whore
Also granted
>pedo
And?
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>>25784836
What about all those lolicon discords(that always end up getting banned for CP) which end up vetting pedos to another secret server where they share images of kids.
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Reminder that these studies on repressed homosexuality likely also apply to pedophilia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia#Internalized
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>>25784824
>dunning-kreuger
Whoop, accidentally deleted this one. Going back to armchair psychologist, you are also an armchair psychologist, just by bringing up Dunning-Krueger. The difference however, is that I'm actually better at it than you are.

>>25784863
>I'd say you've been here on and off for less than a year and a half.
God Damnit, I forgot to call you a newfag in this one.
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>>25784950
do they also apply to boymoders?
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>>25782301
>Nietzsche
>reactionary
You’ve only read the shit edited by his sister haven’t you
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>>25784971
the only familiarity anyone has with nietszche anymore is through rightoid youtube videos
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>>25784971
Try Losurdo’s Aristocratic Rebel. He dedicated a whole chapter to debunk muh sister conspiracy theory and no one till now refuted him. You retards rely on Kaufmann's lies about nietzsche when in reality he's probably the most deranged philosopher of all time.
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>>25784966
It probably applies to a lot of people
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>>25784996
Wait isn’t that the “Stalin did nothing wrong dude”?
I’ll look into it anyways but I’m a bit cautious here
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>>25780629
>So I work for a big tech company and I can see people's search history and do bigquery on it, and you would not believe the percentage of people that are MAP. It's straight up like 60% of men and 40% of women. The "big lie" is that everyone is grossed out by it, but most people just suppress it.

>So yes, they do, but there needs to be a big fucking wall drawn between those whose brain is ATTRACTED to it, versus those who actively try to do it. Once we get proper VR worlds, we can treat these people by giving them all the simulated kiddy fiddling they want.
You are definitely lying.
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Okay, I think the deeply repressed pedo who's into lolicon but totally isn't a pedo has shut up now. Since I'm here, I kind of want to share the good news with people who know me: I got pre-approved for a Line of Credit, 15,000 CAD. I can go to Dr Arnkoff in Michigan and gets an orchiectomy on an informed consent basis, without needing any letters.

I'm actually really excited about this, I'll be able to do things like deep meditation, working out at the gym, and whatnot without worrying about my feelings creeping up on me.
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>>25782880
>Oh my God why are you so fucking dense. Go follow the reply chain from >>25782062
>I'm not even a /pol/tard. I'm not blaming lgbt. I only disagree with " lol LGBT's have always opposed pedophilia" stance from this guy >>25780485. I showed him how many prominent intellectuals from 70s/80s/90s were gay and were against the age of consent.
What the fuck are you talking about. Shit on leftist French philosophers all you like. They deserve it. They didn't at all represent any sort of LGBT movement.

Just because a bunch of radical, insane philosophers supported absolute 100% unrestricted freedom (which included support for non-straight and non-cis people) doesn't imply any sort of "LGBT movement to permit pedophilia". It only applies something about this class of fucked up French intellectuals.
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>>25785074
No, he literally lists all bad things Stalin did. Losurdo just wanted to bring in nuance to the discussion without demonizing or glorifying him. All he did was soberly analyzed why Stalin did what he did. He even concludes that he was an opportunist.
Also check out jah Rehmann's postmodern nietzschean where he analyzes how pomos distorted nietzsche.
Or check this https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0896920516683233
thomas h brobjer Nietzsche’s ecche homo for why 20th century nietzsche scholars reading of him is very shallow.
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>>25784127
>that's not pedophilia bro, regardless of your feelings, a drawing is not a real human being
It's pedophilia. If you jerk off to thousands of male human anime characters fucking each other, would you say "that's not gay"?

Look at /b/ on any given day. They're moving to far more realistic, 3D-rendered CGI child pornography.

>and most people don't watch real pedophile content at the same time they watch lolicon or shotacon.
I am very skeptical of this. I think the vast majority would if not for fear of going to prison, and I think a ton of them do so even with that fear.
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>>25785120
Also
A lot of Nietzsche scholars in 21st century like Ronald Beiner, Ishay Landa, Domenico Losurdo, Don Dombrowsky, Malcolm Bull, Geoff Waite, Timothy Brennan, Martin A Ruehl, Alain Boyer are moving beyond 20th century reductive selective reading of him. So losurdo and rehmann aren't just exceptions.
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>>25780434
Pedos deserve the fucking bullet.
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>>25784603
>Create a ministry to deal with pedos first
>Divert funds to research into whether we can identity pedos with telltale signs or brain scans or tests
>In the meantime Let people report on those whom they suspect to be pedos and you check their browsing history
>All those who are into lolicon/shotacon/junior idol shit will be our main targets
While I agree those people in the last category are probably all pedophiles, this is an insane idea. Right-wingers need help.
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>>25780485
Queer theory and pedophilia go hand in hand.
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>>25785132
>I am very skeptical of this. I think the vast majority would if not for fear of going to prison, and I think a ton of them do so even with that fear.
A lot of folks on VirPed see "the cons" as the vegetarian option. The problem is that when a CP addict goes on a purge, he tries to swear of *all* material, and doesn't allow himself the option of looking at more consequence utilitarian materials like drawings. Two weeks later, bam, binge. Purge. Binge. Purge. And so on.
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>>25785176
>A lot of folks on VirPed see "the cons" as the vegetarian option.
I can partially infer, but I really do not want to know what any of these terms mean.
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>>25785175
>Queer theory and pedophilia go hand in hand.

>Source: MyChristianNews.info
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>>25785120
Thanks for the link I’ll give it a read
Now that I think about it, we as a society have been thinking too much since like the 1700s. Why are people arguing over arguments about arguments over what some increasingly insane dude wrote
Too much navel gazing
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>>25785100
Those French leftists intellectuals are worshipped by all leftists and queer academics these days. You are forced to read them in academia and their theories are used as foundation for most queer theories. They definitely caused a shift in theoretical and activist commitments all over the west.
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>>25785203
>forced to read them in academia
You mean students have homework?
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>>25785120
*Deconstructing Postmodernist Nietzscheanism: Deleuze and Foucault by Jan Rehmann
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>>25785203
>They definitely caused a shift in theoretical and activist commitments all over the west.
What other "pro-pedophilia activist commitments" did they cause in the west?

>Those French leftists intellectuals are worshipped by all leftists and queer academics these days. You are forced to read them in academia and their theories are used as foundation for most queer theories.
I don't know enough about them to comment on this. I agree that people should be very skeptical of anything they produce, but I also imagine the anti-age of consent stuff is something most academics paper over when studying them.

And I would highly bet that this is probably pretty incidental: they happen to be leftist writers and "queer theory" people / academics tend to be leftist writers and use the work of other leftist writers. They're not building off of any of their statements about children or associating it with anything related to being LGBT.

I agree this weird French strand of leftism in that era is fucked up, but even if a lot of those people's work is influential, it's far more an indictment of intellectual, academic leftism than it is of LGBT people or the vast majority of ordinary liberals. I'm a liberal myself but don't buy into any of this bizarre academic leftism stuff, and I'm pretty sure most liberals feel the same as me. And even the vast majority of people who do buy into it would likely be repulsed by learning about these pedo philosophers' positions.

You could also argue that most of Western philosophy in general is based on ancient Greek and Roman philosophers who mostly not only supported but actually actively were pederasts who fucked young kids, as well, but that doesn't imply the Western tradition inherited those particular fucked up cultural standards.
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>>25785298
Well, feminist/queer critical theory is a direct off-shoot of french retardation. American academia imported French pomo shit during the cold war because they were embarrassed of their marxist past. American academia exhibits similar attitude towards pedos even now albeit in a more subtle way because their theories can naturally be extended to defend pedos too. Sometimes you get weirdos like OP who openly admit this shit. You might be a lib but a lot of lgbt folk are radical anarchists.

>most of Western philosophy in general is based on ancient Greek and Roman philosophers
That happened like 2 millenia ago. Modern European philosophical attitudes are more influenced by Christianity and Persian Islamic scholars of middle ages. French pomo influence can directly be felt because it's a very recent movement that's extremely popular in western academica.
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>>25785195
It's all about authority imo. Using Nietzsche’s shit to bolster your arguments can be more effective than using some literal who modern scholar even if the latter knows better. So now you have people trying to make it seem like he was a philosopher concerned with liberation and emancipation, and then you have people trying to deligitimize him by showing his aristocratic radical side.
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>>25785298
>I agree this weird French strand of leftism in that era is fucked up, but even if a lot of those people's work is influential, it's far more an indictment of intellectual, academic leftism than it is of LGBT people or the vast majority of ordinary liberals
They were notoriously popular public intellectuals. That probably means they also had public support from normal lgbt folk.
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>>25785504
More than 95% of their public support came from non-LGBT people and I also doubt that high of a percentage of LGBT people supported them on this particular matter. Trying to connect this to LGBT stuff in particular is very clearly motivated reasoning. If they were like "homosexual kids should fuck adults" or something in particular, like Milo Yiannopoulos said, then yeah I could see the connection, but they were primarily referring to heterosexual pedophilic relationships and most of the discussion was around heterosexuality.

The problem is this school of French intellectual thought in the 70s, not LGBT people.
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>the problem with pedos is-
>children can't consent?
>NO! they didn't get the child's parent's permission first! it's ok if they're married!
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>>25785438
I agree
I’m no academic so I have no idea what the pressure to publish is like but after a certain point it reeks of “I don’t have either the guts or the skill to make novel points so I’ll nitpick about someone else’s work”
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>>25785563
That's just how Japan is like
Weebs are mostly rightoids
Connect dots nigga
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>>25785545
>More than 95% of their public support came from non-LGBT people
Well yeah, cause most people are not lgbt

>but they were primarily referring to heterosexual pedophilic relationships and most of the discussion was around heterosexuality.
This is not true because most of them were fighting against heteronormativity. They also hated categories homo/hetero.

>The problem is this school of French intellectual thought in the 70s, not LGBT people.
It certainly laid the groundwork for modern queer theory.
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>>25785584
People who make novel points in humanities/social sciences are pretty rare these days. I can only think of Jason Storm from recent years. You also have to climb the totem pole and get enough recognition before you even get the freedom to think freely.
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>>25783834
>supporting pedophilia was the norm among progressives back then
I don't know that much about the whole issue but I've come across bits and pieces here and there. After the sexual revolution happened, it was sort of like "everything's on the table".
Discussions and attitudes about pedophilia were very different, especially in progressive and/or fringe circles.

Have you heard of this?
https://fanlore.org/wiki/Breendoggle
It's about the husband of the woman who wrote Mists of Avalon and the reaction to accusations of pedophilia among the sci fi con community.
>attitudes in the 1960s regarding consent, minors, sex were different enough than they are now. This mean that while some fans were shocked and disgusted by the allegations against Breen, others thought that objecting to consensual relations between adults and children was “square." Some seemed to take it for granted that since many children are molested and grow up to live apparently normal lives, it must not be very harmful.

Something else that comes to mind:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_International#Raised_in_the_COG_and_later_left
https://au.news.yahoo.com/flirty-fishing-incest-and-child-abuse-inside-a-chilling-sex-cult-075028223.html
>The second was Berg’s strong belief that Jesus wants his believers to have as much sex as possible, with whoever they want, at any time, which appealed to the strong horniness of the sexual revolution at the time.
I can't find a source but there was a documentary from the early 90s that showed censored pics from zines they put out where parents were introducing their children to sex and also really creepy clips of videos where very young children were beginning to undress.
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>>25780818
I've yet to see a flag I disliked so honestly GG /pol/
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>>25780497
>Forgot to mention but the term MAP (minor attracted person) literally originated as a /pol/ psyop to oppose LGBT rights by trying to make people think its a legitimate movement and not a bunch of fringe pedophiles under the delusion they are doing no harm
It came from B4U ACT, an organization that wants to make it safer for pedophiles to seek treatment (mainly in hopes to reduce child abuse).
People started using the term to ruffle feathers on twitter before /pol/ existed.
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>muh french lgbt pedos
These people literally did not exist.
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>>25786231
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws

>An open letter signed by 69 people, including Gilles Deleuze, Roland Barthes, Philippe Sollers, and Louis Aragon[9] was published in Le Monde in 1977, on the eve of the trial of three Frenchmen (Bernard Dejager, Jean-Claude Gallien, and Jean Burckardt) all accused of having sex with 13- and 14-year-old girls and boys. Two of them had then been in temporary custody since 1973 and the letter referred to this fact as scandalous.[10] The letter claimed there was a disproportion between the qualification of their acts as a crime and the nature of the reproached acts, and also a contradiction since adolescents in France were fully responsible for their acts from the age of 13. The text also opined that if 13-year-old girls in France had the right to receive the pill, then they also should be able to consent,[10] arguing for the right of "14- and 13-year-olds" "to have relations with whomever they choose."[9]

>A similar letter was published in the paper Libération in 1979, supporting Gérard R., an accused child sex criminal awaiting his trial for eighteen months, signed by 63 persons, stating that Gérard R. lived with young girls aged 6 to 12 and that they were happy with the situation. The letter was later reproduced in the paper L'Express, in the issue of March 7, 2001.[11]
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>>25786296
>An open letter signed by 69 people
Forgery. There's no legitimate historical record of any of these people actually having existed.
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>>25786296
France is not a real country.
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>lgbt pedos
It’s almost always cis people, though.
Be honest.
Which demographic commits majority of the crime? Which one commits most of the sexual crimes? Which one often gets hauled off to the penitentiary for downloading CP?
Surely you didn’t imagine a femboy, women, alice, or ayden, did you?
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>>25786874
Trans women are men. Hence the super high ratesof grooming and pedophilia within the mtf community
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>>25780434
>>25780485
fpbp
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>>25780629
60% of straight men searching out jailbait type stuff definitely makes sense since women are naturally neotenous and sexually mature at a much earlier age and also femininity is associated with youth, but 40% for straight women seems excessively high since the inverse is true for men and masculinity, unless perhaps they're searching for young women to self-insert as
curious what search terms you looked for that met your criteria
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>>25786906
>grooming
I’m talking about real crime that people get put away for committing, not hearsay ones that may or may not count as real (by definition) grooming.
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>>25786906
Trans women are women, sweaty.
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>>25785084
based
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>>25780434
It doesn't, because a lot of straight men and straight women are pedophiles anyways.
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>>25780434
I already consider MAPs to be a part of the queer community.



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