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So yesterday I learned about this perfectly passing youngshit and apparently she's a right wing youtuber.

Like WTF? How can you be right wing when right wingers want to take away your hrt and the possibility to transition early? It makes no fucking sense.
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>>23319520
>passes perfectly
>picture grainier than a brewery
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>>23319520
I'm a cis male right winger who loves tranners. Thanks for the rec.
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>>23319542

https://youtube.com/c/EllaGrant
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She sees unpassing trannies being commies and goes to the straight opposite of that, to show she's "better than them". Very female move.
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>>23319520
Right wing how? Or do retarded direction-brains like you make no distinction between social and economic issues?
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>>23319549

Explain yourself! Are you into hons or what is your endgame when it comes to tranners and how they should transition?
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oh wait she's had srs
nvm
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>>23319520
Most passers are center or center-right I’ve noticed.

It’s because if you stealth you get to live as a normal person, and don’t have to be in the leftist cult of freaks

And I say this as a liberal myself
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>>23319520
>omg how can a member of a marginalized group try to curry favor with rightoids by trying desperately to be "one of the good ones"!?!?!?
If you are under the age of 18 discontinue browsing immediately
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>>23319520
Here's the secret
Only authoritarians who want to increase the power of the government or of the religious body of society (Communists, Nazis, Evangelicals) are against trannies getting their juice.
Nobody else cares. "Anarchists" who want to empower "communities" pretend to care, but chuck any individual tranny under the bus if they conflict with their community.
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>>23319559

I dunno. She's talking about being right wing in her videos. It could be edgy talk but it's still cringe and makes no sense.
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>>23319561
Look, no one wants to take away your hrt. I just want srs banned because it doesn't work. If someone is say 14 and genuinely trans, then hrt that little bugger.
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>>23319564

Well but they gotta realize that when TERFs prevail that even if she's stealth they will treat her like a man and take away her hrt. It just feels like people like that are dumb and clueless about what's happening.
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>>23319585
>want srs banned
..what? For adults? Because I've never heard of children getting SRS (Because it doesn't happen)
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HSTS are low IQ bimbos
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>>23319570

Well some did seem to care. Someone who was cis implemented hrt for tranners in the first place. And mainly TERFs and right wing media, politicians and judges effectively want to ban transition. Just look at the uk or anti trans bills in the US and who pushes for that.
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>>23319520
What's her channel? As a right wing troon I'd like to check it out
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>>23319520
Does she own an AR?
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>>23319623

Link is itt
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>>23319520
>It is increasingly evident that Eliot is not only autistic, but is also an uncommon girl. Eliot's mother, Carla, recounts their journey down an unfamiliar path riddled with dismissive medical consultations and mental health referrals to clinics with epic waiting lists. Eliot transitions to Ella, with ambitions of being a trophy wife. Her parents attempt to set limits but Ella, in a typically teenage way, resists anything she deems as trying to squelch her true feminine self.
From her mom's book. Should answer all your questions, OP.
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>>23319725
>autistic
>Eliot transitions to Ella, with ambitions of being a trophy wife
Why do the autists get to be youngshits, because they don't have the amount of shame needed to repress and never bring it up to family? Low intelligence + awareness?
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>>23319520
She weirdly gives me vubes of an alternate reality contra points that transitioned into a passer instead of coping with drama club.
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>>23319725
>mom's book
I fucking hate this shit world so much. Richoids with production companies colonizing my internet.
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>>23319520
Theres lots of reasons lol, its not dissimilar from an upper class woman who is publicly anti-abortion in her state but who is able to afford sending her daughter to an out of state abortion clinic to discreetly avoid public humiliation.

Its still a cucked position, but it makes sense. Passing has nothing to do with it lmao, its just very gratifying for trannies to say "HAHA US [COMMIE/ANCAP/FURRY/HSTS] TRANS PASS THE BEST!" when all it is is a circlejerk and mass identification with maybe a handful of public personas
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>>23319779

LOL her mother is even a pharmacist:

Ella is "outed" repeatedly by teachers she trusted and stops attending school. Carla's rage morphs into a motivating sense of injustice and she engages in a successful campaign for her child's civil rights. Carla and Ella are not superheroes, they are just a couple of uncommon girls determined to leave a bumpy road a little smoother for the next travelers.

Über den Autor und weitere Mitwirkende

Carla Grant is a non-compliant pharmacist, exceptional post-secondary educator, author, photographer, and overachieving mother. She has had lifelong struggles with mental health and addictions and is a testament of living recovery. Carla was born and raised in Canada.
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>>23319520
it doesn't make any sense to be a rightwinger for 99% of the population because they're either working class or very small petit bougies who are about to get eaten up by the bigger ones. people are rightwing regardless because of ideological brainwashing
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>>23319559
>no distinction between social and economic issues
there is no economical left wing in politics, it's been completely eradicated by now
all that remains are social issues
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>>23319918
>there is no economical left wing in politics
It's the one that supports state intervention, ie the mainstream
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>>23319520
She literally just made a video ab how her political views evolved and she’s no longer right wing, and never really seemed super conservative beside being pretty transmedicalist and i feel like most of this board would agree with her like 90%
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>>23319935
>enclosure acts are leftism
How do you get dressed in the morning?
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>>23319935
>it believes that any true degree of state intervention and resistance to boundless global capitalism is still on the table for any american party
it should learn to shut its mouth when adults are speaking
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Your problem is thinking that right wingers are all just one big block of the same person.

We all have different views on transgenderism because we all have different exposure to trans people.

I'm pro HRT at an early age but was anti a year ago.

The reason I was anti was that, up until that point, I had only seen the worst of it. Angry, ugly Hons with no interests other than politics, useless because of suffering from Spiro sickness. Trying to manage trans people at work who had zero intention of doing actual work and just spending their entire day on diversity efforts. It's like you're a programmer and you have jira tickets, do them once in a while maybe? You think I'm exaggerating but one of the trannies, despite spending 4+ hours a day posting leftist ragebait in #offtopic on our slack, claimed her fingers were too in pain from Spiro to do her work. So she just didn't, and guess who had to pull all nighters 3 times when she dramatically revealed, the day before a due date. That she hadn't done her work?

I thought transgenderism was a sickness because I'd only ever been exposed to them.

Well, ok so what changed you might ask?

I met a girl online, beautiful voice, we become close friends, she's literally the coolest nicest girl ever, and eventually we get on camera and talk and she is hauntingly gorgeous, like insanely beautiful even without makeup on. Only thing is scars all along her limbs from cutting. She confesses to me that she's trans and thinks I'm going to disappear forever because of it. I'm like what no? I care about YOU because you're cool, not because of your identity. And so she introduces me to her trans friends. Some of them pass and others don't but they all are cool people with drive, dreams, career, interests, etc. They're the kind of people you want to be friends with..

So here's the thing. The ones that pass, all took matters into their own hands.
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>>23319806
It's ALL BRAINWASHINGGGGG
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>>23319986
>Well, ok so what changed you might ask?
I wouldnt ask because nothing changed, you just got horny and projected your unchanged delusional politics onto a nice set of tits in front of you

Like kudos for having the spine to not pretend you werent attracted to this chick but the only growth here was in your pants my man
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>>23319986
One of them damaged her balls herself with blunt force trauma. Another injected something. Another got some shit off the internet of questionable repute.

Because they didn't allow themselves to be captive to the current system they now have bodies they are proud of. (And voices too.)

So it's plainly obvious to see.. that HRT at an early age can make a huge positive difference in someone's life. And I know, duh, obvious - but when you HEAR about it you only think about the visual appearance and not just how fucking CHARMING trannies can be when they aren't plagued by bdd.
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>>23319986
>So here's the thing. The ones that pass, all took matters into their own hands.
passing is genetics, nothing to do with effort or virtue
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>>23320026
>the only growth here was in your pants my man
Kek
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>>23319989
i mean yeah, you are basically fed spooks about how capitalism good and how masters good from an early age, especially if you're american bby. if you check out what actual leftists are saying it's a lot of common sense stuff
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>>23319570
True European-style Socialists care, and don't say there aren't any either, Northern Independence Party are very firm on this front.
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>>23319570
this, anarchism is literally just handing your rights over to the mob, lynchings were anarchist in that they represented the will of the people, and yet apparently it's a progressive ideology
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>>23320038
Theres an effort component but it is subordinated to your genetic potential and when you get on hrt. I still absolutely 100% agree that passing isnt virtue based, you dont really deserve or earn it by being "good", i just feel the need to say that there is some agency involved.
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>>23320066
nah no amount of effort can change shoulder width, height, or skullshape, and these things make up 99% of passing
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>>23320047
>european-style socialists
so basically social democrats? i mean the faggot you're replying to is retarded but don't pretend like third world socialist movements arent pro trans or at least neutral to trans people. cuba is a good example of a socialist country that has excellent trans healthcare
>>23320060
>mobs are... le bad!
>uhh what do you mean being ruled by a master is even worse??? shut up okay muh lyncherinos muh mad max muh mob psychology
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>>23320026
Her tits _are_ nice, domp is magic.

But it wasn't just her it was all of them. I'd only been exposed to the worst possible trannies and then I was exposed finally to trannies that were cool. I'm still dating a cis girl but my best friends are all basically trans. I write music with tranners, I game with tranners, I hang out with tranners every night. The growth in my pants sure did happen but they're not all attractive - they are all cool though.

Anyway I got off on a tangent but I was gonna circle around to a point which was that right wingers have a variety of opinions on trannies, and even though I love trannies now, I still hate niggers, so like, I'm not going to become a left winger.
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>>23320103
>I still hate niggers
must be tough looking in the mirror everyday
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>>23320077
No but your style decisions do matter. I used to make myself look very clocky with how poorly done my goth makeup was, it highlighted all the wrong features. Similarly exercise and skincare do matter and voice training is called training for a reason.

Again its subordinated to fortune and genetics, but its wrong to say this isnt some part of it. Id say how much the effort matters to passing (rather than just looking hot) is linked to your genetics

>>23320103
Sorry dude, but youre just a racist horndog lmao do yourself and us a favor dont pretend that this was a big shift for you. You were horny about women before and then you realized "huh, new type of woman just dropped? I could fuck those"

Frankly ive really started to get annoyed with people who share your attitude, not the least because youre so insistent on turning the community agaonst each other and using passing transwomen as a cudgel against out sisters.

You will not change *shrug* so why pretend?
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>>23320083
being ruled by a master who tolerates my existence is better than being strung up by a cisoid mob
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>>23320154
don't think we disagree, I just hate this narrative that hons are hons simply because they don't try hard enough, some of us just look ugly and don't pass, and it's hard to even bother with basic self-care when you'll look like shit no matter what
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>>23320170
I hate that narrative too. I didnt always. But i really, really fucking do now.

I worked with another trans girl recently. She did not pass. She was over 6ft, had a square body and a square face. I actually assumed she was older than me by decades. The customers in my small town area were often very rude to her from what i observed (different shifts) but then those same customers would treat me kindly and some even flirted with me. That girl was like 20. Im 26. She transitioned at 19. The same age i did.

Honestly that broke me of that mentality more than anything else. It was so on the nose like, like a sign from God. Cant abide by those fuckers who try to weaponize transwomen against each other since.
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There's communist countries out there. Why don't you go be a tranny in one of those? Oh right, it's because you greatly benefit from capitalism and all the leftist talk is just culture war lip service with no actions ever taken.
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>>23319520
>tfw extremely right wing and trans

COPE.
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>>23319986
>So here's the thing. The ones that pass, all took matters into their own hands.
actually based
t. young right wing transitioner that god a job to afford hrt
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There's so many more factors to consider. Not everyone are single-issue voters.
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>>23320235
>Oh right, it's because you greatly benefit from capitalism
Communism is literally predicated on the great benefits of capitalism, the whole marxist project was to take the spoils of industrial capitalism and distribute it more effeciently

This is actually similar to how capitalism took feudal level technologically improved outputs and distributed them more effeciently by using the price signal as new distributive social technology

And that is also echoed by the feudal system being a more effecient distribution of output than hunter-gatherer societies


Is this making sense? Communism would be a system (necessairly global and NOT nationalized because the economy is that way now) where the price signal is replaced by new technology for effecient distribution and production; likely cybernetics.

>>23320290
You only like that because it gratifies and validates the narrative you call your "self" dude lol
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>>23319596
I want SRS banned because its a bullshit meme cure, like Fauci's vax.
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>>23320235
i actually plan to move to a communist country thank you. china's economic growth is looking pretty good, and they have a government that isn't literal shit so i might go there unless i stay in p*land and spread communism locally
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>>23320218
it's just lookism
I don't hate passoids, but loads of them have a 'fuck you I got mine' mentality and are more than happy to just shit on anyone who isn't as lucky as them
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>>23320330
I know but like, idk, i got over that bullshit. So they can too. Im not interested in being gentle about it either, this is life or death for many of us. That attitude disgusts me more than almost anything else in the community.
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>>23320330
yeah desu there are some passoids who like, go on the internet to specifically shit on boymoders and repbros and they aren't even pretending to hide it. calling us perverts and wanting rightoids to genocide us and shit
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>>23320344
Is there a more pathetic creature on this planet than a tranny that thinks it isnt?
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>>23319986
If I had just known before it was ogre. It could have been so different.
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>>23320154
It seems like you're dead set on being obstinant but I'll try one last time. A hot girl opened my mind to the possibility of change, sure, but the thing that made the difference to me was all of them and their interests. And again, my trans friends are NOT all passers, but they are all people who have things in their life they are passionate about, other than just trans issues and/or politics. I was hoping this was obvious but I draw the line not between passers and non-passers, but between interesting fun people, vs angry people who are a drain to be around. That's the line I draw with right wingers and cis people too by the way - religious nutjobs who have nothing else in their life but scolding others about politics are in the same category as those first trannies I met who gave me the wrong idea of what a tranny is.

Anyway look, the point of my post isn't validation for me, because I get tons of validation from my trans friends already. The point of the post is to get you to understand how you can convert right wingers to be pro hrt and the best way is to ensure charming trannies exist - or to be charming yourself, because most right wingers respond well to feminine energy and to people who are nice to them. You'll still get the nutjobs who won't, but you can't let them dissuade you. Good luck!
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>>23320506
if this girl you met didn't pass and was ugly you wouldn't have changed your mind
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>Be me, trans
>Like feminine things
>Like delicate things
>Like clean things
>Like to be spoiled
>Like cute things
>Like neat and orderly things


>one party wants to import and empower people who would destroy all that and who want me dead
>It also has a massive apologist campaign for a class of people that are obviously more likely to be violent criminals and represent the biggest threat to me as a trans or just as a human
>the other party wants order and prosperity that I can enjoy
>It also wants to let me keep more fruits of my labor instead of donating them to violent criminals who are likely to kill me

Gosh I wonder why so many trans girls are right wing? It is a mystery
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>>23320506
>The point of the post is to get you to understand how you can convert right wingers to be pro hrt and the best way is to ensure charming trannies exist - or to be charming yourself, because most right wingers respond well to feminine energy and to people who are nice to them.
Ah, i get it now, you thought i didnt understand this part of things. I do. I very much do. That is im fact, part of why i am dismissing your view as nonsense.

Social change is affected by the establishing of systems, you create durable changes to society by changing the order of society to allow for the inclusion of a group. You do not create meaningful social change by batting your eyelashes at people who want to, directly or implicitly, kill you and people like you. What youre really asking for is for trans people to mind their behavior around people who hate them and kowtow to their behavioral whims.

What youre asking for, is for us to make you feel comfortable.

A waste of time. The real objective if the concern is social change would be seizing power where possible and creating self replicating institutions that protect and enable our community. We shouldnt be nice to right wingers lmao we should be cutthroat and seek at every opportunity to disempower your kind. Every bigot in power should be looked upon as a domino to be knocked over.

You know who has rights? People with power. You know where rights come from? Strength.
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>>23320571
NTA, uh, did you read the post?
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>>23319986
>spiro makes my hands hurt

You’re either larping or she was a massive idiot who managed to prey on the ignorance of an even bigger idiot.
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she got them crazy eyes
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>>23319520
>>23320374
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>>23320615
That’s one long and complicated way of saying “I don’t like darkies.”

Just say “I’m racist” and be done with it.
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>>23320673
yes, and my point still stands
if she was a hon you wouldn't have changed
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>>23320615
There arent any parties lmao, not really, its one holistic system that is subordinated to the whims of an internarional web of commerce whose own priorities have now become more powerful than human concerns.

More to the point, these "parties" are made up of the same kinds of people. They live in the same neighborhoods, their children attend the same schools, they go to the same restraunts, the same yoga classes, they watch the same movies and they go to the same parties.

There is no battle over immigration in this country, there is one consensus dictated by the global market that is parcelled out to its archons in power.

The goal: sustainable access to cheap underpaid labour that cannot unionize or protect itself with government aid

Republicans are entrusted with their disciplining, they are the stick, and their job is to make it harder to come here legally without wealth. They keep the pressure up so as to create scared, weakened pockets of humanity.

Democrats have been tasked with the relieving of pressure, they are the carrot, the ones who must make sure that the captured labour force does not perish. They keep them coming here on just enough nourishment that they will not die, with just enough participation in the system that they will not revolt.


There are no borders, there is no nation, there are no parties; there is one globalized system under the machine God of capitalism. And it needs to be feed. Dont mistake its hierophants for statesmen, youll live longer.
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>>23320615
>be you, hon
>like all the things you're not
>want BBC but het men won't give you the time of day
>cope by screeching about darkies on 4chan
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>>23320735
>you
>>23320673
>NTA

>>23320735
Don't be a little nigger. And if so, so what? What's so wrong about attractive passing trannies making right wingers more accepting of all trannies? First of all you're no better, and second all trannies benefit from this.
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>>23320893
>What's so wrong about attractive passing trannies making right wingers more accepting of all trannies?
Everything i have told you, slave of the demiurge. Now sneed off.
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>>23320758
>And it needs to be feed
don't forget about the seed
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>>23320235
>he doesnt know about china
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>>23320936
>implying mutts know about any country that isn't burgeristan
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>>23320615
based and checked
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>>23320758
>machine god of capitalism
lmao cringe
the USA is not capitalist and hasn't been for quite a while. we are centrally planned with very limited open markets. all is controlled by the international banking cabals
>democrats tasked....
endless immigration is meant to racially homogenize western populations into a mixed brown slave race in the long run. anyone with a brain knows that mixed race people have no culture or heritage and are extremely easy to control
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>>23320681
xev bellringer-moder
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>>23320965
>the USA is not capitalist and hasn't been for quite a while. we are centrally planned with very limited open markets. all is controlled by the international banking cabals
"Capitalism as it really exists" is distinct from your pet theory lol

>anyone with a brain knows that mixed race people have no culture or heritage and are extremely easy to control
You are my inferior :]
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>>23319969
>it believes that any true degree of state intervention and resistance to boundless global capitalism is still on the table for any american party
This is why nobody listens to you, you talk in pretentious drivel
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>>23320758
>an internarional web of commerce
Gee, be sure not to look up the (((names))) of the individuals and families who make up such a web. It might make for some uncomfortable reading, anon
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>>23320993
If you believe in either party you are in the minority and sound insane to most people.
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>>23320627
pure cringe. you've declared vast swaths of the population as non-humans. what happens when they revolt against your treason? then you will support mass genocide "to protect your own rights!!!"
this is exactly how reactionaries rise up and kill all of you for subverting democratic institutions. you are word for word copying communist jews in germany before the nazis took over lmao. fucking accelerationist tranny. have fun in the camp, wheel
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>>23320922
I'm a tranny, wheel, and that was my first reply itt. And you're wrong. I already read a couple of your replies here and as usual I think you have very crappy opinions. Like you seem like a nice person but I don't think you have the mental capacity that you think you do. You seem to take yourself way too seriously for the caliber of your smarts so to speak.
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>>23320987
eh i see why people call you ugly now. you have a really nasty, entitled personality. bye bye, you aren't worth conversing with manface
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>>23321021
Its multiethnic and multireligious, i can look up the study for you like but world wealth among religions breaks down like this:

Christians
Atheist/agnostic
Hindu
Muslim
Jew

And iirc youd need like, to triple the wealth of the jews to get close to the muslims.

Finance knows no God but Mammon

>>23321031
I did no such thing, they are humans and should be treated as such. If i thought they werent human, id believe it would be possible

>>23321034
Explain, i speak boldly and that bothers people here because theyre meek but i am always willing to consider a view as much as i am to dismiss one
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>>23319520
Right wingers dont op.
Dont be a fucking idiot
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>>23321089
>If i thought they werent human, id believe it would be possible
*to will them into permanently accepting us

My b didnt finish the thot
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>>23321108
they do you absolute double niggerfaggot
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>>23321089
can I come on your podcast? I'm the creator of lil pooner and toob memes
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>>23321089
"you see goyim, when you add up all wealth in the world for every religion, jews come out last!!! it's not us goyim! goygoygoyiiiiimmmmmmmmm HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"
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>>23320719
And your entire existence is one long and complicated way of saying that you're mad at daddy.

It's lovely for you that you live in an area where you can have the luxury of thinking black people and Muslims are compatible with civilized society or the existence of tranners. Check your privilege.
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>>23321149
m e d s
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>>23320893
>What's so wrong about attractive passing trannies making right wingers more accepting of all trannies?
doesn't work like that, all it means is right-wingers will use the pretty trannies as cumrags, when push comes to shove you don't actually care about our rights, and you'll treat the uggos among us like dirt
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>>23319550
>Ella Grant
i've seen her videos before. she is trying so hard to be Lizzy Grant (Lana Del Rey)
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>>23321108
right wingers created meme culture and it's hilarious to watch uncreative statist leftie shills try to co-opt the OG status of pepe fascists
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>>23321141
I dont actively podcast anymore because i despise audio production, but ye ive toyed with the idea of doing it infrequently.

My discord is #Austin Danger Powers#9846

Hmu there and ill get back to you, i think it could be fun i actually liked both of those memes cause theyre so absurd

>>23321149
Hehehe thats prole- i mean GOY, us jews cannot be stopped! You can only defeat us jews by yelling about minorities and not showering, but.youll never defeat us. Like Judah the Hammer we will uh... idk dude force fem you? W/e lol
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>>23321190
>pepe fascists
literal 12 y/os who went on 4chan after hearing histerical libs screech about le pepe trump 4chan nazis on the news
kys
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>>23321183
Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual's internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.
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>>23319550
>1
that voice tough.
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>>23321220
And pepe is so old too lmao they never left 2016 swear to god
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>>23321220
bruh, right wing meme culture peaked in the great meme wars of 2016. then the uncreative lefties, like the statist losers they are, banded together and changed le reddit algorithmerino to oppress le based pepe fascists
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>>23321089
You like to think that you understand the world because you see everything through this little political lense that has been taught to you which offers neat little answers for... everything?

Right wing guy tells you he now respects trannies cause he learned they can be normal people because he developed a crush on an attractive one? Not good enough, he didn't seize power where possible to create self replicating institutions that protect and enable tranny communities, therefore he's just an icky RACIST right winger and ew ew ew!

There's a lot of value in what that person is saying; how could you expect people to accept or even tolerate trannies when their perception is that we're all mentally ill gross evil UGLY people?
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>>23321162
Have you ever even met any black people? I’m curious as to what white as wonderbread area you live in that makes you think conservative whites aren’t as bad as Muslims and non white peoples around LGTI issues.
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>>23321186
>doesn't work like that
That's a very nice opinion friend
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>>23321263
gamerbros.... . le big state has come for us.... its over.......
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>>23321267
she's literally advocating for the creation of subversive mind virus institutions instead of simply approaching conservatives in good faith. very jewish nature wheel has. off to da camps!
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>>23321287
brainlet, just go back to shitposting YWNBAW at least that would be honest
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>>23321274
NTA but I live in a non white country and you're STUPID if you think white people are worse. Like straight STUPID. And of course you're white, like poetry. Only white people shit talk about themselves to such a degree.
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>>23321316
>you're heckin stupid
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>>23321267
>>23321298
the reality is that she is hiding her true nature. she knows that conservatives will never accept her because she is a degenerate freak in some way that she wont admit - this is the real reason why she won't compromise with conservatives... she knows conservatives will never accept HER (she's prolly a pedo or some shit)
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>>23321316
Not the anon you're arguing with, but I have some family in a nonwhite country and some family in a white country, and the gays/trans relatives in the nonwhite country are a lot more out of the closet than the ones in white land. Anecdotal but it's enough to convince me that whites are some of the worst. It obviously depends on the country though, in both cases.
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>>23321344
>t. pick me
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>>23321267
>through this little political lense that has been taught to you which offers neat little answers for... everything
Not really. Im an autodidact with no college experience and i have only a few specific answers i repeat frequently with confidence thats foreign to the boards self cringing culture.

>Not good enough,
Why would it be? I dont even know this dude, i have no candy for him even if i approved of his erection. What is he a child, he needs a fucking participation trophy for recognizing someones humanity after recognizing their tits? Dont make me laugh.

he didn't seize power where possible to create self replicating institutions that protect and enable tranny communities, therefore he's just an icky RACIST right winger and ew ew ew!
1. He is literally an open racist
2. I dont want him in power, i want people like us to have power over him. I was clear on that.

>how could you expect people to accept or even tolerate trannies when their perception is that we're all mentally ill gross evil UGLY people?
Are you kidding me? Do you think its a superhuman feat to move past stereotypes taught to you by reddit and /pol/? Its the bare minimum. I expect people to recognize the humanity of their fellow man, and it would be a sin to be kind to those who want to erase the humanity of others.

Bang your head against my wall all you like, youll need a sturdier tool than whining to change my ideological foundations.
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>>23321274
how do you have such a smooth brain? legit curious. white conservatives are the most tolerant conservative group by far... it's not even close. stop watching movies that brainwash you into believing nonsense propaganda
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>>23321344
See
>>23320218

You have it backwards. Theyve accepted me and i view it as insufficient.
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>>23321352
pick me and all those terms from FDS are co-optted from theredpill and other successful internet psyops from the early 2010s. your mind has been overtaken by memes and there is no cure, sorry anon
>t. cis male
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>>23321298
That's a good point. She's admitting to being subversive and dishonest in nature but I'm sure she thinks it's worth it because "might is right" (which she doesn't really believe in, it's just a nice larpy rhetoric).

>>23321305
Write a worthwhile reply

>>23321349
>Know a few out of the closet LGBTs in nom white countries
>"Anecdotal but it's enough to convince me that whites are some of the worst."
yeah I don't know what else to tell you.
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>>23321415
Anon, dishonesty isnt when you plainly announce your beliefs, goals and strategies.

Again, this has been a valuble cipher for me, you are angry at me because i am stronger and more forceful. I am a cunt, but you are cringe.


And that is why no one itt will manage to debunk a damned thing ive said. Theyll only complain i said it.
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>>23321354
So just to be clear, while the right winger was talking about how important it is to empathize with trannies to no longer dehumanize them so that there can be more voluntary tolerance and acceptance, you disagree with him because you don't care about coming to an understanding, and instead just want to destroy your political opposition so that you can use the state to force people to do your bidding, making them accept trannies. "Cutthroat" was the word you used.

The above seems like a gross misconstruing of what happened ITT but please correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>23321316
I’m not deriding white people on the whole, I’m deriding your average white conservative. Because they’re the ones passing laws that make my life harder and often times they’re the ones who are more likely to harass and insult me, because blacks, Hispanics, and muzzies primarily attack trannies and gays of their own ethnic group.
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>>23321370
>how can you have such a smooth brain

It’s called having lived in the south absolute fucking brain dead mong.
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>>23321500
lol you selectively ignore information when it doesn't suit your belief system. as i said, going the route you are going will result in civil war and mass genocide. you've been made aware of the consequences of your beliefs now. so, in the future, you cannot claim ignorance :)
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>>23321500
>Anon, dishonesty isnt when you plainly announce your beliefs, goals and strategies.
And tell me exactly how do you plan to get your side into power? By publicly explaining your plans about wanting to suppress political opposition once you're in power right from the get go, or to keep that secret u til you can use such force?

Such an end is dishonest in nature because you'll never be awarded that power without first concealing what you seek to accomplish with it.
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>>23321500
Are you Jewish wheel?
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>>23321623
white conservatives your kind names
non-white conservatives stone your kind death
gee guise white conservatives are such assholes!!!
in a way, you are advocating for wheel's philosophy:
white conservatives need to be more ruthless. we are showing weakness and it allows lowly reprobates like yourself to criticize us :)
white conservatives wouldn't have to deal with any of this if we just treated you like non-whites do. you hate us for our tolerance
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You can tell youre correct when the only critiques against you are the feeble wails of the self hating and you are told your ideas are at once too mighty, too weak, too hidden and too open to work
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>>23321685
>white conservatives call your kind names
>non-white conservatives stone your kind to death
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>>23321687
again, delusional. you aren't even responding to people. you are ending debate with those quotes. you have plenty to reply to but you don't want to actually challenge any of your beliefs
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>>23321687
absolutely based, pick-me's HATE her!
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>>23321687
Huh? Is this your way of admitting you were wrong here >>23321500?

>say dumb shit
>proven wrong
>post bushido blade ninja pic "heh.. people tell me im wrong means I'm doing something right...."

????
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>>23321720
nah it's just male ego delusion. lots of trannies are like that
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Hark, is that the sweet sound of lamentation that i hear?

>>23321752
Im genderfluid in fact.
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Someone please tell me if wheel is jewish. She's got the nose but I want confirmation. It'd be so fucking hilarious if it turns out that this tranny who is openly talking about being subversive to gain political power to suppress her opponents (and who doesn't see anything wrong or dishonest about this) is actually jewish.

Oh god please
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>>23321803
it's not hard to find jewish trannies who are open about their subversive nature. rain is a discord jew tranner who is pretty open about her beliefs on goyim, for example. the true redpill on jews comes from interacting with mentally ill jews who don't have the jew filter when around gentiles
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>>23321803
>>23321856
pure slave morality resentment
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When the wisest of all rabbis Jesus Christ came to proclaim the Kingdom of God, he did not shy away from his own message and spoke as though he was already proven correct by God's dominion on earth.

All theology aside and speaking strictly in terms of oratory, Jesus was correct to speak this way.

Again i tell you, my haters are as false and hideous as the Pharisees before them in whose demiurgic shadow they cringe in, fleeing from the Son's light.
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>>23321868
filtering for quality and not wanting to be corrupted by dark triad psychos is slave morality resentment, goyim. become a psychopath, goyim
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>>23321875
go forth and create your flock, then. i'll suck your cock for some of dat holy spirit, wheel. no hard feelings, just hard cocks
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>>23321868
I was thinking the same thing lol
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>>23321354
>Post about wanting to gain power to oppress your political enemies using the state
>Complain about racism

Name a more kosher duo. The ewish "morality"
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>>23320965
>not true capitalism

Kek rightoids and liberals are going through the same phase as socialists did
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>>23322009
don't worry, when you are insecure and post pics again i'll be sure to jump in with the jackals
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>>23319918
And that’s a good thing
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So yesterday I learned about this perfectly passing late transitioner and apparently she's a left wing youtuber.
Like WTF? How can you be so based?
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>>23322114
You misunderstood that lol, hard. All that thread did was solidify my opinion of those people being insecure and self hating. This proves itself many times over. If anything, its bolstered my confidance and made me realize it was silly to even compare the posts of you people to how im treated irl.

None of you show your face, youre all too scared to post your bodies or even measurements lmao. No, no, no. I dont think you ever understood the score.

Witness the rats scurry away in the face of truth, their mournful cry of "Stop! Stop! I cannot bare the light of day!"

Happy Thanksgiving, i am off to the family meal. I may be back later.

Thanksgiving....appropriate! All my enemies are jive turkeys.

:]
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>>23322198
And to be clearer, i specifically mean you people.

Everyone else is still my sister, brother and sibling. Ill never harm you. But i will torture the rest when its appropriate.
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>>23322198
>Witness the rats scurry away in the face of truth, their mournful cry of "Stop! Stop! I cannot bare the light of day!"
Just like you abandoned your arguments ITT a few minutes ago because you're aware you can't defend them and you're too dishonest to admit it? Why are you accusing people of literally the exact same thing you're guilty of?

>Happy Thanksgiving, i am off to the family meal
Dishonest coward
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>>23322198
it's nice that you feel this way now but you're an unstable bipolar tranny and will feel like shit in a week or so. and at that point, i will strike you down for the lulz ehehehe

:]
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Nip at my heels little mongrels lmao quick quick! Before i stop giving you attention! Youve almost got me, just post more! Quick, before ive sat the table! The only way to own me is to talk about me more!
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>>23322329
ahhh i can't wait for all of you decadent attention whores to get what is coming to you in a few years. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I CANT WAIIIIIITTTT UGUHHUGUGUGA
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>>23322329
this is kinda sad wheel, I hope you feel better tomorrow.
You got this! Happy Thanksgiving!
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>>23319520
>How can you be right wing when right wingers want to take away your hrt and the possibility to transition early? It makes no fucking sense.
perhaps I could explain.
I'm a full blown /pol/tard that realized they're trans not too long ago.
Of course, the transphobic rhetoric of the right is awful.
But they're not wrong about *everything*.

Are they wrong about Christianity, muh Jesus etc? Yes.
Are they wrong about Capitalism? Yes.

But they aren't wrong about mass immigration feeding banking profits, further enslaving us, keeping wages down, inflating the housing market etc.

Both sides (as dumb as this dichotomy is) have good points. Take the best from both and be a better person than a dogmatic left/rightist
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>>23319615
we don't need to be smart we've got men to do the thinking for us
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>>23319550
Kirkland signature contrapoints
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Because only true passers and genuine trannies are right wing. Leftoids firstly embrace and enable the murder of us via their 13% useful idiots, and secondly they want state provided only healthcare which results in NHS tier frankenpussy and hon freaks like Yaniv etc. You even get regards here who think Irans is le based and redpilled because they allow tranny surgeries. Literally the worst that some Christian right wingers say is that we'll burn in hell maybe and they don't even know that. Lastly right wing men are hotter, more stable and successful,, so it you find one into trannies then you're golden. Better than a literal leftist cuck who will want me being blacked while he wanks off in the corner.
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Daaaamn it you guys ugh dinner was so good but my tits are too heavy for turkey and my wide hips are just so breedable i cant handle anymore stuffing

What do i bros? Afgghh this is awful im eating delicious food, drinking good and seeing my beloved family

Oh nooooooo
I sure hope the nonnies ive mindbroken dont attack me again during my moment of weakness!
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>>23323809
Empress...
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>>23323809
oooooo im coooming
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>>23319520
Not reading the thread, but she had a vid where she said she is no longer right wing
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>>23320758
Correct and blackpilled

What we refer to as capitalism could also be described as an emergent consciousness spread out fluidly across nodes consisting of human beings, infrastructure, etc. whose sole directive is to keep itself running for as long as physically possible, by any and all means necessary - including sacrificing bits of itself if they turn against it like a cancer killing it or if it otherwise benefits the whole's survival for it to consume or destroy individual nodes.
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>>23321500
Fuck I'm so fucking nostalgic for the early 2000s, everything was so much better then, pop culture especially, and it wasn't just because I was younger either
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>>23322198
the fuck is that webm lmao
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>>23319520
>It makes no fucking sense.
"Fuck you, got mine?"
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>>23319737
Becoming a youngshit is more of a supportive family thing, not related to being autistic or neurotypical at all. She lucked out hard on having that supportive mum.
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>>23319737
Being autistic prevented me from transitioning early. I was bullied into masking in kindergarden and elementary school. For me being trans was just another thing I had to mask in order to appease the family + people around me.
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>>23320758
based take.
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>>23324497
Its a visual metaphor for what i do to my haters

>>23324393
Yup, yup, its self aware at this point in every way that matters. Like idk, i know some people really balk at the spiritual language of it, but capitalism is functionally the demon every religion said it was. Its possessed our ruling class and makes them ruthlessly torture, rape and exploit humanity just to burn the planet down. You cannot ask for a more literal example of good vs evil than this battle between humanity and the machines.

>>23324443
Advertisements now literally make me insane in a way that older ads dont. Its like once we hit 2010 they all became cognitohazards.

>>23324745
<3
Irs hardly just mine, but i am happy to share it and get more people on board with the real stakes here
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>>23319520
you probably don't know what the right wing or right wingers actually are
here's your (You)
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>>23325466

mi amor is it true that you and 15 expose yourselves to underage boys over discord? why do they get to have all of the fun?
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>>23325632
Yeah so like, you seemed like a really really lonely man when you spoke to me privately and i took pity on you and tried to keep you company. I felt bad for you. But idk man, youre just depressing. I want you to know that i was seriously trying to be your friend because you sounded lonely and you blew it by being a huge racist creep.

Stop talking about me and go back to being miserable. Its what you always wanted LMAO
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>>23325748
This is really fucked up. Proof via discord chat-screenshots or GTFO
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>>23325748
Taylor has said nutty shit about us every so often and has been told to stop because its rude and creepy. You are dumber for believing it.

I mean Christ use your head, even if i was pedophile why would do it online and tell taylor? Of all people lmao why would i tell someone with lips that loose?

Moron. Stupid lonely idiot who was too mean and cruel to people holding out their hand to them.

Sincerly hope thats the last rumor from you.
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>Be me
>be trans
>be extreme far right.

Who's the leftoid in OP's pic?
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>>23325823
I don’t have receipts but Ms [unisex deadname redacted] did mention wanting to fuck underage Sunny Suljic once to me over discord.
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>>23320026
Holy shit Wheel you're a delight
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>>23326752
a female brained tradwife larper with massive autism for 50s aesthetics <3
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>>23319520
Seeing passoids like this just makes me try harder, if you don’t feel that way too you’re a pussy.
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>>23326753
Do I need to put on my trip to get the nonce’s panicking?
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>>23327229
Taylor you have to understand why i dont believe you. There is no way you dont.
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>>23319596
Have you not heard of Jazz…
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>>23327359
The issue is jazz had the wrong procedure done by an ex butcher.

>>23327325
I know you won’t openly admit it, but in your heart you know she’s a pedo.
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>>23327584
By a notorious butcher*
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>>23319986
>I base my view of entire minority groups entirely on my personal experience with a handful of them
how principled
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>>23327584
You are a sad, sad creature. I regret being kind to you when i felt like you were a creepy jerk. Clearly i was right and should have held you at more of a distance.

Thanks for repaying my kindness to you by spreading rumors about me and my friend man.

Good luck losing that weight
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>Wheel obliterates rightoid pickme "arguments" with introductory level explanation of Moloch
>they resort to calling her a pedo
Every single fucking time. It's so tiresome guys, I'm actually going to fucking lose it.
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>>23328080
Where do you find the energy to keep writing paragraphs nonstop? Are you taking noots?
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>>23329222
>>23327922

>>23328271


Lmfao imagine not constantly being in Super Saiyan, couldnt be me
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>>23323342
which right wingers support HRT (state or DIY)?
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>>23320627
I understand your sentiment, but war only begets war. Bigotry won't be snuffed out by trying to snuff out bigots; metaphorically or otherwise. It only inflames it.

Look at how rightoids react to Biden, who's as milquetoast as they come. Then imagine how they'd react to, say, someone who you'd want as president. There needs to be a complex, multipronged approach here. Attempting solely the approach you prescribe will lead to negative second-order effects.
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>>23319935
right wingers intervened during last year's stock market. they also started the iraq war.

they're all just jews you retard, pick the jews that are okay with fags
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>>23329770
As a Jew, I'd counter and say to pick the people who don't have paranoid, obsessive theories about Jews akin to how TERFs think about trans women. The vast majority of Jews (in the US) are supportive of gay and trans people.
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>>23329737
Im too drunk now to explain, but there is a multi pronged approach to my thinking. Its called class and species consciousness. Part of the struggle between free human beings and the Mammon Machine is who owns whose body. Trans people fit into those struggle very neatly and we should emphasize always body autonomy.

Thing is we were talking about trans people and our rights and what we can do *now*, so i didnt call for violence or anything per se. Im just saying we need to seize power wherever possible and create institutions that validate our humanity.

Without power you dont have rights, you have the mercy of the powerful.
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>>23329810
I mostly disagree with you on class stuff and consider myself a dirty socdem/liberal/mild capitalist, but I otherwise fully agree with everything you said there
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>>23329737
>>23329810
Ah ah i omitted an important part by accident:


Biden is a great teaching tool. Even the meekest, most adulterated and accomodating of libs gets treated like theyre like a radical by these people. It makes more sense imho to genuinely pursue radical risky grabs for power and to use power to create massive, durable social changes via long standing institutions ingrained into the state and economy than to pin hopes on some clownishly impotent centrist's reforms that the next President will only trample over

>>23329832
I mean if it helps, ive got a dual consciousness on it too. I dont expext to live to see the end of capitalism at all and our people are suffering *right now*
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>>23329370
Right wingers like my boyfriend do because they know there is no shutting the gate after the horse has bolted. Trannies are here to stay and we might as well be the best we can be. Most right wing types just don't give a shit about trannies one way or another. Want to know what left wing types are constantly attacking trannies and succeeding in getting HRT curtailed at both state and DIY level? TERFS. Im sick of retards saying TERFs are right wing when literally every single belief they have is left wing in origin.
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>>23330310
>Want to know what left wing types are constantly attacking trannies and succeeding in getting HRT curtailed at both state and DIY level? TERFS. Im sick of retards saying TERFs are right wing when literally every single belief they have is left wing in origin.
I think TERFs are absolutely, utterly right-wing. Rightism is in many ways just leftism applied to the ingroup, the whole ingroup, and nothing but the ingroup. The size and scope of the ingroup just varies depending on the particular ideology.

Look at how white supremacists get triggered when they talk about things. They get offended at the drop of a hat. They're exactly like the "woke left", except applied to a specific scope. And TERFs are the exact same applied to a different scope.

>"[my identity] is constantly under attack from invaders and interlopers, I must fight for the interests of [my identity], [my identity] deserves a special and isolated place in this world, [other identities] are threats and incapable of reaching [my identity's] caliber of civilized, constructive, healthy behavior"

Right-wingers are obsessed with purity. Transgender women are impure, defiled, corrupted, and less-than in the eyes of TERFs. Non-white people are impure, defiled, corrupted, and less-than in the eyes of white supremacists.

Right-wingers are primarily driven by fear. They live in a world of endless paranoid ideation and see enemies and spies and infiltrators everywhere they look. Look at any TERF discussion site and you'll see they truly talk about trans women exactly like how /pol/ talks about Jews. The parallels are uncanny.

Right-wingers are fixated on "the natural order". They believe things should be as nature made them, that nature made some groups inferior and some groups superior, and even that "what is natural is moral and what is unnatural is immoral". Things like transhumanism and gender/sex transitioning are considered the pinnacle of wickedness to these people.
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>>23328080
>ur a creepy jerk

At least I didn’t knowingly ERP with a 16 year old boy like your friend.
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>>23328227
Except I wasn’t one of the people disagreeing with her political arguments, if anything if you scroll back through my posts I actually share much of her perspective. I just started larping as FRT to try and goad her and 15chan into giving me >(you)’s because I couldn’t do anything else without the receipts. Interesting how liberals will say “believe all women” but the second a trans woman remembers something that she had failed to properly document because she had tried to be forgiving to someone who seemed like she needed a friend, not an enemy, she suddenly becomes a schizo and a liar.

Simple fact of the matter is wheel associates with someone who was explicitly sexual towards an underage boy and has pedophilic urges.
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>>23329925
You're right about social change
Which is why I want to destroy the federal reserve. Watch how quickly people adapt when their own survival is on the line. Watch how some will thrive without the shackles of fiat or the intervention of state power. None of you know what being right wing means.
>>23329737
Biden is actively destroying the nation. You shouldn't need me to tell you that when the cost of living, the price of gas, and the price of raw materials is skyrocketing. We somehow, simultaneously have hig unemployment, and a buyer's market for jobs. Our ports are nearly at a dead stop with cargo ships just waiting out in the shore to be processed. Biden is far from Milquetoast and if gas prices comtinue to rise, I literaly won't be able to afford to go to work
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Youngshits are mean
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>>23332280
But maybe saying that is me trying to cope with the ugliness and ruin any ive met have been okay
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>>23332280
Are youngshit HSTS right wing while millenial transbians are left wing? Seems spooky to me I wonder if it's true.
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>>23332271
What is your age, letter and orientation?



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