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I'm one year in and have undergone almost no changes, my hips are wider and I have very small boobs, that's it. I am not even close to passing, even with makeup, nor am I attractive.

Does it really get better after two years? I feel like people are telling me that just so I don't rope.
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>>23318922
Also at a year. Feeling very much in the same boat
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>>23318922
Most people aren't attractive. The attractive people you slavishly follow on insta have followers not because most people empathize with them, but because most people want to look like them. Get used to being an uggo.
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>>23318922
almost 3y in. yes it gets better, but not if you don't actively do things to make ur life better
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>>23318922
no! :)
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>>23318922
>nor am I attractive.
It probably doesn’t get better, my guy
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>>23319198
Damn. Good image
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>>23318922
Get a blood test and check your levels
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>>23319195
Like what?

>>23319241
I did. My levels are fine. Even in trough values a week after injection in in cis female E ranges.

>>23319192
Rope is the only answer for me
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>>23318922
Do you seriously think pills can completely change the way you look? Do you realize how crazy that is?
Most trannies need to spend an absolute fortune on surgery to even come close to passing.
It's the VERY rare few that look feminine enough to begin with that all they need to do is grow out their hair and put on weight in the right places, and those who are like that almost didn't need HRT to pass to begin with.
If you're already a year in, I hate to break it to you, but you're not in the chosen few. It doesn't get better.
For every year you spend waiting for the HRT to work, or waiting/saving for surgery, you're also a year older.
You're fighting a losing battle. If you don't peak early, you don't peak at all.
>so what do I do?
Detransition or become a monster hon. That's all.
And yes, it's unfair that some can pass while others cannot, but ultimately no more unfair than someone who was born blind or with flipper arms.
That's just how life is. If you can't handle it, nobody is keeping you here.
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>>23319344
whos born with flipper arms that sounds wild
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>>23319344
> Do you seriously think pills can completely change the way you look?
Yes? Have you seen timelines?
> Most trannies need to spend an absolute fortune on surgery to even come close to passing.
Isnt it only about late transitioners? I look like something between twink and 14 y. old boy and I hope I will be able to pass without ffs.
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>>23319370
Check out all the genetically aberrant children born in India and Pakistan due to inbreeding, for example.

>>23319472
>Yes? Have you seen timelines?
Selection bias. If someone doesn't look much different over time, then they aren't going to make a timeline about it.
Therefore, most timelines you see are actually the most extreme outliers, not the most average or representative.
>>23319472
>Isnt it only about late transitioners? I look like something between twink and 14 y. old boy and I hope I will be able to pass without ffs.
Age is a factor because everyone defeminizes over time, it's why a 20 year old man will almost always look more masculine at 40. Even women, which is why they typically age like milk
This is one of the reasons why trying to be a woman is a waste of time, because you're fighting a losing battle against biology.
Unless your parents are millionaire liberal boomers who will put you on HRT ASAP and pay for all your surgeries before you're even halfway through highschool, you simply won't be a passable woman early enough for it to matter.
I say 'matter' not in terms of looking good (you'll look like shit in the end either way as everyone does), but 'matter' in the sense of having an authentic girl experience while you're young enough for it to count as formative, rather than the doldrums of actual adult womanhood.
Instead of fantasizing about your ideal self as a cute girl, imagine yourself as an average looking 30 something year old woman. This is your best case scenario.
Does that appeal to you? Is that dream worth giving up the best twink years for? Is it even practical?
Personally, I'd say no, because I'm just about old enough now to recognize the value of time I can't get back.
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>>23319811
> Does that appeal to you? Is that dream worth giving up the best twink years for? Is it even practical?
How I waste my twink years? I was cute twink, wanted to avoid twink death, and that's why started taking hrt.
Yeah it kinda sucks that I didnt have female socialisation in childhood, but knowing me, I'd be the same autist with no friends regardless of my sex.
> Instead of fantasizing about your ideal self as a cute girl, imagine yourself as an average looking 30 something year old woman.
What? I am only 20, and in a year or two I want to look like 21-22 year old woman. Yes, I could look like a twinkhon or the same as now, but I definitely would not look like 30+ old in my early 20s.
Anyway, it's way better to be middle aged woman than middle aged man.
> and pay for all your surgeries before you're even halfway through highschool,
Why do you need surgeries if you are youngshit who didnt ever have any T in your body? The only thing you'd want to have is srs then.

> Selection bias
Ok that's possible. I dont know how average 4chan tranner looks like. Is it malefailing bdd boymoder like most of tripcodes? Or is it midshits like me, who cracked less than a year ago? Or is it mature girlmoders/youngshits? I dont know, but we should make statistic.
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any retard with good levels can fat pass after a few years if you have a good voice. dont let the shitty brain worms get to you and let you think you can't ever pass. Not actively working on your body is why you don't pass. Pay for laser, voice train and work your ass out dude
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>>23319811
looking like an average 30 year old women when I hit 30 is my fucking dream. Do you even dysphoria?
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>>23318922
>my hips are wider and I have very small boobs, that's it.
That's kinda it, that's what you signed for.

>I am not even close to passing, even with makeup, nor am I attractive.
Most trans people have this problem, if you wanted to pass no problem should've stay with your biological sex instead.

>I feel like people are telling me that just so I don't rope.
Don't think about rope even if it doesn't, there are still thing worth living.

Even ugly people can find love and beauty in their life.
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>>23320229
>there are still thing worth living.
>Even ugly people can find love and beauty in their life.
Not me.
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>>23319335
idk, get a job, get ffs, get over ur mental illnesses, make new friends, learn a new skill, all things that don't just happen without any effort but will improve ur quality of life? things like that
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>>23320937
These platitudes are so worthless I almost resent you for saying them.

I have a job. I can't get one at Starbucks. Even if I saved 100% of my income, had no expenses for a year I would still be unable to get FFS.

I've been chronically and severely depressed for the last nine years. I'm so anxious it's taken a physical toll on my health. I've tried literally everything, so much so my doctor won't even prescribe me new meds because it's pointless. Nothing helps.

I've made new friends, surprisingly.

Guess what? My life is still hellish and will always be because what makes it bad is beyond my control.
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>>23318922
>>23321347
Not the best advice I can give but I know someone who whored herself out online to get enough money for beauty cosmetic surgeries quicker. If you're desperate you can try this.
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>>23321501
Again you're ignoring how bad my situation is, or simply or incomprehensible it is.

If I were attractive and passing maybe that's be an option. As it stands now, guys won't even have sex with me for free on the four dating apps I've tried. Not a single match. Both when setting myself as male and as female, before you bring that up.
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>>23321347
you're just conceding that it's impossible to ever improve without doing anything abt it, u just want to wallow in ur misery it seems. keep complaining online and i'm sure it'll get better tho :)
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>>23321586
What's the exact problem exactly? Are your looks bad due to genetics or what? Are you overweight? I want to understand what makes you unattractive to help give you more concise advice.
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>>23321627
But I am making every effort. Nice assumptions.

>>23321666
Genetics. Were I overweight I could just lose it and not be in despair.
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>>23321772
kys then ig? sorry loser :P there's no magic secret to being happier that ur gonna get from 4chan retards. u know everything u can do to make ur life better, yet u choose to complain on here.
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>>23321347
>>23321586
exactly same situation here 2+ years in
so no, it doesn't ever get better for some
I'm literally only living because of inertia at this point
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>>23321772
>Genetics
That's gonna be hard to pin down without a face pic. If you're looking to find someone who loves you then it's not impossible, there are people who are desperate to fuck anyone, like the anons on /trash/.
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>>23321917
Not posting my face, and nobody is willing to fuck me.
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>>23322319
Can't go on much from there then. All I'll say is self-improvement comes in many ways and only you can decide who you want to be despite what you were given at birth. Just don't kill yourself, you don't sound like a bad person.
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>anon asks for help, shoots down all help
>anon wants life to be better, refuses to do anything to make it better
Many such cases
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>>23318922
no, your face will not change, skin changes are minimal
you need FFS
electrolysis for face
laser for legs and maybe body depending on your genetics

nothing else changes
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>>23322319
It's really damn hard to give life-changing advices to 4channers. The OPs can't give too much details due to privacy and the answerers can't help without those details.

Honestly, I think you are a classic case of "there's something else wrong with you." Get a psychologist (a good one) before you do anything drastic.

As for looking good enough for passing: can't do much there. Genetics sucks. Only way out is changing your mindset and lower the bars. Midgets and super-obese ppl can still get lovers but those lovers always look mediocre.
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>my hips are wider

What is your method? Sublingual? Did you start low and slowly increase your dosage?
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>>23323123
My method is being under 25, if only barely.

I was initially on sublingual until about 9 mo the in when I switched to injections, and I was ho dosed for a few months.



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