Saddest day of my life.One less gun to recommend to people.I love mine so much.HOWEVER I have heard that they are revamping the CX4 in this video.https://youtu.be/e-H3bU9qFGo?si=M0Jj2lc9FMjOMg38&t=740What's your guys' reaction to the discontinuation and your hopes for the future generation of CX4 Storm?
>>60194328>What's your guys' reaction to the discontinuation and your hopes for the future generation of CX4 Storm?Sad loss of a unique looking gun. $10 says the next generation is an AR variant.
>>60194328That makes me sad.
>>60194328...huh, well shit. I was literally just thinking about one of those last night. I actually don't really know enough about them to be educated enough to know what I'd like to see improved on a potential revamp of the design, just kinda getting a PCC itch.
>>60194328At least we get the 995 classic back again
>>60194328My Wyndham Weaponry rifle no longer has a lifetime warranty. Cry me a river CHUD .
>>60194404OP here. If the CX4 gets the 80X treatment (proprietary mag, uglier, and jagged looking) and ends up being a direct blowback ar9, I'm going to cry.I think they should stay true to the shape of the gun but add mlok rails to where the picatinny adapters are. Instead of the crossbolt safety, I'd like a simple detent safety. Keep the ability to use 92 and PX4 mags, and see if we can have a removable front and rear sight with the ears as one whole piece. Maybe it can be held in place by 1-2 hex screws so we don't have to use the unique tool. I'd also want a threaded barrel and standard swivels. I hope I'm not asking for too much since these use to MSRP at around 800 then went on sale for 500-600 before being discontinued. These guns are too damn awesome to dissipate into a POS AR9
>>60194446holy shit i had no idea they brought back the Eric Special, that's neatdid that hi-point double stack pistol ever come out?
I always loved the short barreled version.
>>60194328What is fair price in 2023?
>>60194328FUCK. I was planning to buy one this year.
One of the biggest benefits of a PCC is putting the magwell in the grip and achieving near-bullpup OAL reductionSo why the fuck does nobody except Beretta and Hi-Point take advantage of that
>>60194328So say we all.
>>60195298I got mine for $500 mid Covid, I've seen them at gunshows for $1200 which is highway robbery.I highly recommend them, but anything over $700 is probably stretching it.
>>60194328I want one, have been waiting, theyve been banned up here in canuckistan for the last 3 years. It's not fair..
>>60195823>>60195780I had a chance at one for 600 a few weeks ago and now regret not taking it. I hope it's arround come this summer still otherwise I guess its all fucked then.
>>60194328>They don't make it any more so you cannot recommend itFaggot what? I don't own a single gun that was produced in my lifetime, let alone that is still in active production. Guns don't expire when they stop making them, they just get cooler.
>>60194484yeah it did, only holds 10 though. its like 1.5 stack.
>>60195700Because a significant chunk of the tactical gun market thinks that if a gun has a manual of arms even slightly different than an AR they'll get confused during their shootout with the UN goonsquad and try to reload their AR like a P90 in the heat of the moment due to "bad training" that cross-wires their reflexes.
>>60196115no one wants CX4s because they go for 800 bucks most places, have no factory threaded barrel, a crappy trigger and recoil just as poorly as 300 dollar PCCs. theres no reason to buy anything other than a GHM9 right now unless you simply 'like' how a gun looks.
Last gun I bought before the wuflu was a CX4, got a great deal too. $400 in like-new shape with a Vortex Strikefire. Also helps in a ban state that old 92 mags are dirt cheap compared to Glock or whatever.
For God’s sake, bring back the Storm in .45. The point of a PCC is greater accuracy than with a handgun, so with a decent optic and training, you don’t really NEED 15 rounds of EuroPellet. 8-9 rounds of .45 should be enough medicine for whatever is ailing you.
>>6019719645 is kinda shitty and unreliable in PCCs
>>60197196listen grandpa we have 10mm now
>>60196147if beretta makes it a delay blowback like the pistol its worth the money
>>60194446Wait what that thing looks sick, what did they bring back and what is that?
>>60197447You're new here.
>>60194459>If the CX4 gets the 80X treatmentNOOOOOOOO
>>60195943Wasn't my original point. They're now going to be scalped like crazy and be ""collector's"" guns. Of course I'd still recommend it, but they'll eventually go away or get to the point where the price isn't worth it used
>>60194328>What's your guys' reaction to the discontinuationBSG should have bought more and we wouldn't be in this mess.
>>60194328>When it isnt even your favorite gun but you still really want one even though you can't justify it.Life is painful indecisions
>>60194459All they gotta do is make the stock removable/foldable and it's gucci
>>60197213what the fuck, no it's not. also we have .450 SMC that works really well in CMMG’s Guard PCC, even with 16in barrel.
>>60199758same now its gone fuck I guess I should buy one I might not even need a permit for one.
>>60199688Everybody had one in BSG, how could they have bought more. Maybe if they were in Caprica and Blood and Chrome those wouldn't have been cancelled.
>>60194328It's not very high up on my list, but it has always been on my list. Maybe one of these days I'll get to shoot one and see if I like it enough to try and find one
>>60194459>If the CX4 gets the 80X treatmentI don't think I can handle it one more time, bros
>>60197213>.45 works in sub machine guns>.45 doesn’t work in carbineswat?
Is beretta going to replace it with something? This gun and the px4 are the best guns I own
>>60197229We’ve had 10mm since the 1980s sonny. Catch the fuck up.It’s a meme cartridge for meme people. You think you’re Sonny Crockett on Miami Vice? Seriously, 10mm was a solution in search of a problem.
>>60201549 Guy’s a slobbering idiot…an oral faggot with a harelip.EXTRA sloppy!
>>60201613Beretta has the PMX as a pistol variant of the SMG. I assume they're going back to tweak the CX4 like in the video on the OP. The PMX is the only option for now
The Cx4 was the first gun I purchased with my own money (followed closely by the 92fs for matching mags). Damn fine gun that will always have a special place for me. F for the frens who will not get to blast Cylons with one in the upcoming war vs the machines.
>>60202425why the fuck would ame be there
>>60196147>theres no reason to buy anything other than a GHM9Hello Mountain Jew. Your shitty overpriced "hydraulic buffer" straight blowback will never be a real delayed blowback or locked breach PCC.
>>60194328Anyone SBR it? Not sure where to put the engraving let alone is it even worth it.
>>60197235a tilting barrel on a carbine is retarded
>>60203033all the things you're saying sound like cope. the GHM9 isn't even that expensive anymore.
>>60204975Also the budget version that's soon to be discontinued due to no popularity.
>>60205018i've personally shot one, the recoil impulse is maybe a little bit worse than the MPX or MP5 and the trigger is only slightly worse than the MPX's. Its a great gun and unlike the MPX it doesn't have weird inaccuracy or reliability issues.
>>60194328>HOWEVER I have heard that they are revamping the CX4 in this video.yeah good, the PCCs are very stylish these days and the more options, the better.
>>60204975What an absolutely hideous gun.
>>60209307Hideous guns are on the rise, anon. Beretta is already heavily into this trend.
>>60209694Franco Beretta mentioned in an interview with TFBTV that they were considering an updated PX4 “A1” or something if I recall correctly. What that means in terms of updates (probably redesigned slide with optics cut, accessory rail, and grip texture), and whether or not they decided to actually go for it is unknown.
>>60197196>you don’t really NEED 15 rounds of EuroPellet.>8-9 rounds of .45 should be enough medicine for whatever is ailing you.Why are acting like they couldn't just make 12, 15, and/or 20 round extended mags?
>>60194328Stop crying OP. Print one, like a Chad would do
>>60194328Don't cry because its over smile because they sold 68 thousands of them to India only to have the Italian armed forces to adopt another submachine gun
>>60195298I bought mine used about 1.5 years ago and I paid like $490 for the rifle, magpul sling, and chineseium red dot from Amazon that I resold for like $30
>>60194328>your hopes for the future generation of CX4 Storm?Not that it matters since I just bought one (of course), but some improvements over the current iteration would be1. a full-length top rail with no built-in irons2. a redesigned/deleted safety button fence so it's actually usable3. an extended/down-swept charging handle so you can mount optics on the rear half of the rail and still be able to charge the rifle4. a "CX4 Tactical" with a threaded barrel and folding/collapsible stock5. proofread the boilerplate safety warning to reflect that the gun has a bolt, not a slide
>>60201549>.45 works in sub machine gunsLol, lmao
if it were so simple....
>>60213859That stock + a full rail + mlok is all Berretta needs to give me
In the Trump years I saw a CX4 Storm for 200 bucks, really wish I jumped on it
>>60213859CX4 gen 3 w/ full top rail, threaded barrel, and the folding stock from the PMX
>another iconic and memorable and innovative gun killed off so more regurgitated AR clones can flood the marketIm going to kill myself
>>60194328I'm glad I got one, then.Damn. They'd better get a good revamp.>>60209724They should've made a Px4 A1 like, five years ago, and I'm saying that as someone who likes it.
>>60215129explain how its innovative lol
>>60210381 Sure “they” could. If the GunJoo thinks he can make a shekel at it, (and he can borrow the cash from a dumb Goy at a low interest rate), “they” will. But the point of the PCC is that you can now AIM MO’ BETTER. So instead of spray and pray like a hyped-up dope-crazed Negro gangbanger, you only need one or three rounds to HIT your target where it will do the most good. A round or two of 180 grain hollow point to the mid or upper chest is likely to put a serious dent in Jamal’s burgeoning Rap Music career. Hard to proclaim phat rhymes when the air you inhale bubbles out through the extra holes in your lungs, donchaknow? And hey! With the .45 Storm, you’d still have 8 more rounds for Jamal’s “Rythm Section” if they don’t come to Lawd Jeebus with the Quickness, yo’!
>>60215129They will do the 80x again. They will simply destroy it
Beretta is suiciding in front of our eyes. The 80x is but a cancerous symptom of a much deeper issue
>>60194328Everyone crying about this gun but I just see an ugly ass blob.
>>60216909The 80X and CX4 are commercial guns. Their success or failure will not meaningfully affect Beretta's prospects of lasting another 500 years, especially as long as they have Italian military and police contracts on lock and the 92FS/M9 still move units—not to mention their whole shotgun thing.
>>60196147>recoil just as... wrap around bolt pulls the gun downward again and it flummoxes retards the same way it makes standing unsupported accurate fire at 50-75 yards exceptionally easy
>>60202269>Has the CX4 AND M9 comboIncredibly Based, Imo anyone that has a M9 variant should own the CX4.Tbh you should own at least one PCC that uses the same rounds & mags as your main handgun, specially your CCW.
>>60199688I'm going to blow your fucking mind.
My local shop has had one for years. The value of these going to go up?
>>60195700Don't forget my niggas Kel-tec
>>60219782You seem to be implying that pccs have some role beside range toy.
>>60213859That looks neat, valid and certainly deserves to exist, but i think i'd still opt for the fixed stock.
>>60219905PCC + Pistol combo is amongst Paul Barrels top picks/loadouts for the end of the world. Are you saying you know better than the saint paul, anon?
>>60204975Why is it so goddamn ugly?
>>60215129Don't supply the antis with ammo.
>>60219905Home defense for women, children and the elderly.
>>60220041pcc's recoil harder than equivalent intermediates, its only worth it if running suppressed.
>>60195700Because you keep the costs low by reusing as many AR-15 parts as possible. The AR is as cheap as it is because of scale. So many parts are made by so many suppliers it drives cost down to the basement. Its why its so hard for other designs to compete. Nothing will ever be as cheap as an AR. So even if it is better, its double the cost. Looking at you SCAR/MCX/Next meme piston gun. And PCCs are range toys. You either spend out the ass for MP5 drip or you race to the bottom with AR-9s. The middle ground is no mans land.
>>602199979mm weighs more than 5.56 that alone should knock it out of the running. The majority of soft armor out there will stop it cold. Anyone with a rifle will outrange it considerably. You think Paul might just be pre-thinning the competition for warlord of his region if things ever go tits up?>>60220041If you're worried about people with limited physical capabilities pccs are less easy to use than other options, an ar will run circles around them.