https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66851975
>>59593576https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/16mmz4s/azerbaijani_forces_launch_mlrs_at_armenian/https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/16mn71f/destruction_of_the_electronic_warfare_complex/https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/16mn111/destruction_of_armenian_ew_station_by_azerbaijani/
>>59593576Which side is the globohomo transvestite regime on? Just asking so I can cheer whoever opposes them.
>>59593607Azies, on paper. In reality, the council of gays care naught for the caucuses because they destabilise the East far more than the West.
Azeris seem to have the legal right to make sure the ceasefire agreement is being upheld. But since they are such fucking animals that they can't stop beheading people, all goodwill from the international community will evaporate fucking fast.
muzzies about to cauterize this border gore
How many Armenian troops are even in that area?
>>59593713Apparently a lot. I thought they were supposed to be fully replaced by the Russians.
>>59593607Azerbaijan is a country of retarded snackbar beheaders, but since they're Turkey's ally, American doesn't want to intervene and help Armenia. Amernia is Russia's ally... on paper. Russia has refused to help them despite their defense pact so the relationship has soured over the past year.Globohomo is ignoring this conflict; no point taking sides on this one. Just sit back and enjoy the inevitable war crime webms.
>>59593751Armenia just stated they dont have any troops in that area and have no afiliation with them? Are they spinning it to a Luhansk/Donetsk situation?
>>59593700Is there even any border gore? The region is just so fuck-off mountainous, that you get funky looking maps for what essentially is a war over a mountain valley corridor.
>>59593784They're throwing them under the bus. Understandable, honestly, given that they cannot possibly win, but still an ice-cold move considering what the Azeris are going to do the the inhabitants of NK
>>59593751Did you miss the part where the US stepped in and staved off this conflict twice already?Or the part where Armenia claimed the troops that provoked this are not theirs?>>59593713Zero, according to the Armenian government.
>>59593800maybe someone will offer to keep the peace after it settles down. Maybe the UN or China idk.
>>59593786Did you not notice the chunk of armenia inside of Azerbaijan?
>>59593607Go on then, cheer for Armenians like a good cuck.
>>59593607Armenia just said that they're not a part of the conflict, they don't have anyone in NK.
Azerbaijan will Win.
>split a country in two by another country Holy shit whoever created these borders is a retard
>>59593607
>>59593900russians
>>59593900sadly, not retarded, just plain evil. After the collapse, it was in certains group best interest to make sure that all the border/buffer states would not get along - hence the retarded borders which only exist to cause conflict.It's the opposite of post-colonial west, where there was, instead of malice, just complete lack of care, with borders made with a t square. It still resulted in the same thing tho, tons of border conflicts and whatnots.
>>59593900Retarded borders have been a true and tested method of Soviet Russia to prevent uprising against the Central Autority by turning the locals against each others with deliberately enginnered ethnic tensions (conveniently it also offers many Russian minorities to "protect"). I don't know if this is their handywork in this particular case, the Caucasus is a fucking mess even on a good day.
>>59593884Against itself? They're only operating on their own territory. Unless they start blasting at Armenia proper or Armenians go full retard and start blasting at Azeris, nothing is going to happen.
>>59593900Stalin. And it was intentional, designed to create this exact scenario.
>>59593607Globohomo says your mother should stop whoring herself for money on the street. You should cheer her.
>>59593576Armenians should finally start evacuating Nagorno-Karabakh. The region is unsustainable without the supply of modern military equipment.
>>59593994>the supply of modern military equipment.They're not allowed to do that. In fact, all combatants in NK are not with the Armenian MOD, according to the Armenian MOD. They're just some dudes.
>>59593901Azeris, I kneel.
>>59593924The issue with post-colonialism is that the states wanted independence and wanted it now. They claimed any attempts to 'sort out borders' was a time tactic to 'loot and rape the resources of our country'. It's what happened in India. Furthermore, they claimed that any division along ethnic or religious lines would be 'done on purpose to disrupt the state and to split resources and boundaries up'. Yet when, in this case India, the British just went 'Here you go, a massive unified state that is fucking huge and has never been united like this before, have fun' they immediately start fighting over ethnicities and religions and then when they sort it out they go>It was the British fault!!!!Happened everywhere, with every colonial nation (though the Spanish Empire was dismantled by the British so they kinda do have a part to play in those borders). Now, if you want to be real cynical, the decolonisation program was spearheaded by the USA because the empires had a thing called 'Empire first policy' which meant that lets say the UK and India would give each other better trade deals and would charge USA more. With India independent or Kenya independent or whatever, the USA could get in and go 'Hey, we're cool, give us your shit' and not get screwed by the policy. Now, this is where it gets conspiracy theory tier.. while it is 100% true the USA encouraged the decolonisation process to make money there are people who believe the USA subtly (through OSS/CIA) encouraged the UK (or flat out did) and France and so on to purposefully create states with borders WITH issues so that the USA could sell them weapons.>Oh hey I see you've got some issues with your neighbours or with an ethnic group that wants independence... you might need some weapons hehe.....With Russia, it was done specifically so they could maintain power in those states. Your former USSR states are arguing and fighting? Well you're the big Russian bear, you'll mediate... for a price :)
>>59593607>Which side is the globohomo transvestite regime on?Most normal people just want both to stop genociding each other.
>>59593576A special insectoid operation has been launched
>>59593900IIRC, it went something like this>Bolsheviks are taking over the Southern Caucasus after Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan became independent once the Russhit Empire died>Take over Azerbaijan and Armenia>Some Armenian nationalists keep a holdout in Zangezur (the long pert of Armenia in the south)>Agree to surrender, but only if the region is made part of the Armenian SSR>Soviets agree and now the border looks like this
>>59594026>Most normal people just want both to continue genociding each other.Fixed that for you, friend.Also, i wonder what will the russian peacekeeping contingent do, considering Azerbaijan invited it there in the first place.
>>59593900Russians created shitty borders on purpose to cause future conflicts so they would always have to look to Russia for stability.Look at the borders of Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan. Russians just fucked around to fuck with them.Technically the bongs did the same with India but at least that was basically caused by some old kingdom that sat there originally, rather than malice.
Who is the good guy here?
>>59594092Nobody, really. The Armenians are the victims, but they are also retarded assholes.
>>59594092Both sides are victims of Soviet bullshit, but can't seem to come to agreements.Russia likes the area unstable so countries in the Caspian sea can't export gas and oil direct to Europe.
I don't trust Armenians. They have a huge diaspora that lobbies their host countries to intervene on their behalf and they can't stop kvetching and oy veying about the genocide. They also have big noses.
>>59594092globalhomo, unironically
>>59594116>Defending MuslimsLmao
>>59594123The opposite actually, if these countries were stable they could export oil and gas from the Caspian to the west and compete with Russias own exports.Russia can't have that, which is actually why they invaded Ukraine too kek.
>>59594101>The Armenians are the victimsHow come there is footage or Armenian military in NK being destroyed. They're not supposed to be there.Armenians are victims of their own nationalism and manipulation by the Russians.Well that and Azeris firing indiscriminately, seems like some civilian areas were affected by the shelling
>>59594116They are the most Jewish of the Christian communities. California and NY are full of Armenian lawyers
>>59594114>Both sides are victims of Soviet bullshit, but can't seem to come to agreements.Azeris dont need come to any agreement because they are much stronger and the world doesnt care about Armenia or Armenians
>>59593900Retarded borders with no regard for distribution of populations can be quite carefully planned to create an unstable region. See the Sykes–Picot Agreement for a classic in this genre.
>>59594114Both ethnicities lived peacefully under the Soviet rule before nationalism kicked in. Just like in Russia and Ukraine. People mental retardation is at fault here, not really a specific government policy
>>59594092AK. Terrorists/freedom fighters causing a ruckus on AK territory. Having a bug hunt is totally legit.
>>59594010>>59594049Sometimes it feels like the thought process was essentially>"What's the worst that could happen? And besides it won't affect me anyway."So the worst happen AND it affects them.Of course I am not saying that they did not spend a great amount of time debating the process but the results speaks for themselves.
>>59593810>the chunk of armenia inside of Azerbaijan?That never was Armenian territory, and the treaty ending the most recent war settled that. Carbucks is AK clay.
>>59593576So it's that time of the year.
Pashinyan Is going to comfortably leave Nagórno Karabakh to its own destiny while blaming Russia for it
>>59594257Kek
>>59594257>blame russia>get closer to the west and china>????>profit
>>59593900The region was >80% Armenian. Soviets deliberately added it to Azerbaijan so they could stir up ethnic tensions.
>>59594225>>59594241>AKwho? none of the countries in the region can be abbreviated "AK"
>>59594257Why wouldn't he, Russians pretty much admit they caused it
>>59594257The Russians signed a peace agreement two years ago that said they'd fuck up either side if they tried to resume the conflict. Then they just abandoned the area.But their foreign policy in the Caucasus has always been a disaster.
>>59594309This is what a Russian's word is worth btw
>>59594322This is exactly how they think and then they wonder why everyone hates them. They tried to get favors from the Azeris for taking "their side" after they won the war and got told to fuck off too
>>59594295Should be AZ. Autocorrect.
>>59594126Azeris are secular
>>59594322I despise Russian beahviour but I also consider the Armenian "strategy" to be very hipocrite and vile
>>59594010Yeah, but didn't in india the Hindu's and Muslims agreed ahead of time they didn't want to be in the same country, and split off Pakistan? Biggest border fuck there seems to be Kashmir, from which I heard only got to be India cause the governor there was pro-hindu despite the region being mostly muslims.
Kek, EU and US have absolutely zero power projection capability in the caucaus
>>59593751>Azeris are nazi>Armenians are the good boysArmenians beheaded and genocided Azeri just as much and more. I have google.
>>59595042>so does russia
>>59593900>>59593911>>59593924>>59593950>>59593962>>59594049>>59594080>>59594200>>59594293Do you fucking reddit retards realize map looks like that because Armenia lost war in 2020? Or is anything more complex than 'russia bad' automatically ignored?
>>59593901>Albania is more democratic than ArmeniaLmaot. Greek
>>59593607They probably support Azerbaijan since they need their gas.
I’m against Muslims in principal and support Armenia simply because they’re closer to muh people — but, it’s hard to take Armenia’s side in this case. The Azers are justified and have a real armed forces, Armenia is just trying to keep NK — which is run apparently by some Putin-pal oligarch (ie crook) and who doesn’t have a real military. Vatniks appear to dislike them citing their lack of loyalty (one of the first to ditch the USSR) and generally being beggars. Also, why, exactly, is Russia obligated to protect NK?
>>59593576>>59593639>>59593751>>59594035ok ziggers>>59593713no Americans are in the separatist zones>>59594092depends what side of geopolitics you're on
>>59594080>rather thanOn top of.
>>59595121Because they said they would when the last war ended. This is why Armenia is looking for the door in their relationship, Russia can't be trusted to do anything they said they would and the CSTO is worth fuck all if they just jack off all the time.Sucks to be Armenian, always has. Their gypsy ass has never once chosen the right side of history and their diaspora is just the worst kind of folk.
If Azerbaijan gets away with this blatant land grab and population displacement without a proper reaction from russia, the US, or even regional actors like Iran, then is it safe to assume more regional tensions and conflicts are gonna blow up in the near future? I don't even expect the EU to make much of a statement about it because it sealed a deal with Azerbaijan after the invasion in Ukraine started. I feel like this is pretty much a test to see how much a non world police nation can get away with if they have their cards stacked just right. >>59595121>Also, why, exactly, is Russia obligated to protect NK?Because the russians set themselves up as the brokers of peace in the region, installed their peacekeepers and committed themselves to fixing the conflict. By not doing so they're showing just how much their word and influence is worth, and they're showing they can be ignored.
>>59595176>If Azerbaijan gets away with this blatant land grabhttps://press.un.org/en/2008/ga10693.doc.htmNK is internationally recognized Azerbaijani land, what the fuck are you on about?
>>59593751Realpolitik at work. But even that has limits, you know the US will cite "humanitarian interest" if Azeris go a little too crazy, Tüôrkįyyyieyye damned. And Azerbaijan knows this too which is why they don't go full durka durka
Wasn't Azerbaijan quite lenient on Armenia after they begged for peace in 2020? This time they might be razed to the ground. Armenia has no allies, nobody's gonna break up the fight
>>59595266Armenia could have a lasting peace but the diaspora niggers don't let that happen. Armenia is getting destroyed by nigs that have never set foot in Armenia proper
>>59595099I'm talking about OFFICIAL borders, you mass-replying retard
>>59595204What's your point, anon? Phrase it in a way that doesn't ignore that Azerbaijan has no authority over this piece of internationally recognized land without applying military force on another government administration, I didn't call it an annexation did I?
>>59595099>Do you fucking reddit retards realize map looks like that because Armenia lost war in 2020? And won the war in the late 80s. All the Southern half of Nagorno-Karabakh is Azeri land that was occupied after the first war, which they then took back in 2020. It's why no one gave a shit, NK had ignored calls to leave these areas for decades and got its comeuppance. The rest of NK is also internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan. Perhaps they should have tried to negotiate when they had the upper hand.>Or is anything more complex than 'russia bad' automatically ignored?Who do you think drew the maps of the SSRs you dumbfuck? Why don't you explain pic related, the most famous case of artificial Soviet border gore and exclaves shit? Still a source of simmering tensions to this day. Probably a coincidence. Can't be on purpose, right?Or just keep seething and talking about Reddit, vatniks sure love to do this for some reason.
>>59595334Well, if they keep heeding what diaspoos are mad about, they are going to suffer a lot more than they did in 2020. The borders look absolutely schizophrenic, both parties should mull over swapping territories in an old-fashioned population exchange
>>59595357>pic relatedIt's like someone calculated how to fuck up the three countries the most if they ever went independent, impressive.
>>59595381The Azeris know they got em by the balls now they ain't exchanging shit, besides worthless garbage no one cares about for the illusion of diplomatic compromise.
When it was clear that the Russian peacemaker mission was a joke and wasn’t ever going to guarantee any kind of security is when Armenia should have tried to look for a different path. If negotiating a permanent peace wasn’t viable at least sell out to any country willing to actually protect what remained of NK.
>>59595402And there is a bunch of small ones that weren't on the other map.
>>59595266They've only targeted nk so the rest of Armenia remains untouched
>>59595357picrel is totally irrelevant for topic at hand. nu/k/ act same way as average redditor, and no amount of 'ITS DAA ROOOOS' screeching will ever change that.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Republic_of_Artsakh it is 99% armenian. See you are so confident in your answer you can't even google. hallmark of average redditor
>>59595418Sell out what to who though?
>>59595470>why are all these borders so retarded?>because russians fucked them up intentionally because they're asshole>no look not in this instance>yes but it is here, look at this -stan spiral>t-that's not what we were talking aboutwe were talking about russian subhumans fucking up borders in general, redditite.also /pol/ is the most reddit place on this board, everyone who's been here since before election times knows it, now hold your tongue and kneel, faglord.
>>59595426>>59595357The USSR taking notes from the HRE apparently. Should have ascribed to the British method of drawing borders.LINE. Done.
>>59595536*most reddit place on this website.
>>59593576A reminder that azebaijan is a islamic shithole only allowed to exist because Turkey gets to larp as a NATO country.Once Russia is gone Islam will be wiped of the map. The only reason the west puts up with Turkey is because they know Turkey will join Russia's side in a heart beat if they did not.
>>59593607Israel is unironically Our Greatest Ally™ in the minds of Azerbaijanis. The Israel lobby has lobbied on Azerbaijan's behalf for arms sales to Azerbaijian while lobbying against Armenian Genocide recognition.
>>59595470>the borders being deliberately drawn up by Russia to ensure conflict and tension in case of independence>"uuuuur totally irrelevant to the topic at hand duurrrrr"Not even trying to be subtle kek. Care to guess who drew the borders of the various Caucasus SSRs? Who included NK Oblast and its Armenian population in Azerbaijan? Without a land corridor? Guess who did the same shit in Central Asia?
>>59595470I hope you get beheaded.
>>59595566And then we'll defeat the resurrected Dark Lich Ataturk and his horde of undead jannisaries and rescue Constantinople!
Armenia is trying to westernize and just had NATO troops training in their country a week ago.https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2023-09-11/armenia-launches-joint-military-drills-with-united-states-that-anger-moscowhttps://am.usembassy.gov/eagle-partner/https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/17/world/armenia-russia-kremlin-us-intl/index.htmlThe islamists are panicking they wont be able to complete their christian genocide so they are interfering before Armenians get too close to the west. Its the perfect window to attack while Russia abandons them and turkey will roadblock the west form getting too close Armenia.
>>59595566>>59595622Cringe larp.Are these bots?
>>59595685No, but you're a fag.
>>59595357You can easily solve this with several land swap and population exchange.
>>59595510US for example. Promise to give everything they have to Ukraine and free bases in Armenia that should buy at least a security deal.
the only thing I know about this entire thing is that I like Jackie Kashian's comedy
>>59595664>Georgia's increasingly unpopular pro-Russian government makes a move to break ties with Europe and institute pro-Russian terror>literally the same day, Armenia faces a provokation on the border that is supposed to be protected by Russian "peacekeepers">pro-Russian "protesters" immediately storm government buildings in Armenia when the government states that there are no Armenian troops in the areaGoes to show that if you're Russian, it is impossible to escape from Putin. The only solution is to start killing Putinists.
>>59595266If they had not hosted the recent military exercise with the USA, Iran was ready to help them.
>>59595664Azerbaijan is secular
>>59593576If the US and EU doesn't do anything to prevent this because internationally the Nagorno-Kharabakh is recognized as part of Azerbaijan. Then this will set a dangerous precent for China to invade Taiwan since It's also internationally recognized as part of theirs
>>59595249>And Azerbaijan knows this too which is why they don't go full durka durkalmao give them a week or twothat entire region is full of subhumans that won't behave if there isn't a slavemaster cracking the whip every five minutes
>>59595721Yeah but those people are fucking retarded
>>59595470die, gaslighting vatnik scum
>>59593576Nagorno-karabakh is Armenian. Has been for generations. There has not been a single time in history azeris were a clear majority in the region.
>>59593576Ehh why is this world so gay? Special military operations, anti terrorist operations etc... Why can't ANYONE declare war like it used to be?
>>59596099>There has not been a single time in history azeris were a clear majority in the region.Don't worry. They're about to make one.
>>59595470It's 99% Armenian because they kicked out almost all the Azerbaijanis after the first war.
>>59595999Difference is relevance. No one gives a fuck about the caucaus nigs, whereas taiwan is actually numba 1
>>59595721>easilyIt looks purposse made to be a bitch to solve. No one has convenient exclaves with similar sizes that could be swapped, land corridors would be troublesome to set up and the entire border in this region looks like it came out of the mind of a guy high on LSD.Add to that the rivers, mountain passes, arable lands etc. which would all complicate things.
>>59595793Why would the US want bases in Armenia?
>>59596121If I were chinks I'd push for a UN resolution about the support of the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan because they recognize Nagorno Kharabakh is part of Azerbaijan and get as many countries to vote in favor. This would be the legal precedent for when they eventually invade Taiwan.
>>59596101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1rzd3eG7ps
>>59593576So what are the consequences of this war? More refugees in Europe? Bunch of churkas dying for nothing? I don't know what to expect.
>>59593607What if you found out it was Russia, given they're the one who instigated things to give the Azeris a reason to fuck with Armenia? Effectively Russia and Globohomo are sitting this one out. Does this mean you oppose Russia too?
I hate churkas but these Armenians are more retarded than Hungarians which makes it hard to root for them.
>>59596331Russia sells weapons to both Armenia and Azerbaijan so they win no matter what
>>59595664Armenia was a mountain Belarus and was fine being that literally until Azeris kicked their ass. Hell, not even that, until Azers blocked the Lachin corridor.
this really will be the decade of blown up soviet gear
>>59596316Some mountain villages you never heard of is gonna belong to a different country.Then Kim Kardashian and various other celebrities and politicians are gonna seethe about it for a couple of weeks.After that life will return to normal
Armenia is totally fucked. They have no resources, Azerbaijan has gas, and they sell it to the EU. No one is going to bat an eye because the destruction of Armenia would totally be irrelevant. They fucked up big time diplomatically, thinking Russia would defend them.
>>59594158Huff this raid instead of your own farts, roach
>>59596304Even the video explaining it is gay. Unbelivable.
>>59596513cope
>Azerbaijan recaptures last bits of Karabakh>Armenia responds with strikes on Azerbaijan>Azerbaijan invades Armenia proper>Iran responds by attack Azerbaijan>Turkey strikes Iran for striking Azerbaijan>Full scale war between Armenia/Iran vs Azerbaijan/Turkeyhow likely is this
>>59596615Not really, Aliyev is a similar watermelon seller to the original, he knows well nobody will give a shit if it's just Karabakh
>>59596615Zero chance, Iran is hated by the Saudi's, Taliban, and Pakistan. They will all join the gangbang if war were to happen. At most expect some volunteers and little equipment since they're making a killing selling to Russia
>>59593607>Buzzwords have replaced my independent thinking skillskys retard.
>>59596615More like total clusterfuck as Iran has to fight everyone around them and Israel implodes as the Putin-created puppet government tries to avoid going to war with Iran.
>>59593576Has anything actually noteworthy happened today, or was it all just arty/bayraktars + armenians protesting?
>>59596615Azerbaijan won't invade Armenia. It would get sanctioned to hell.Iran isn't going to attack Azerbaijan. Turkey would respond, and the Israelis would probably join.
>>59596773Just one little lineHave this talk with God all the time
>>59596788By who? All of Europe needs Azerbaijan and their gas.
>>59596615>Iran with 20 millions of ethnic azeris>Attacking AzerbaijanNot gonna happens.
>>59595204Yeah and Kosovo was internationally recognized as Serbia until it wasn’t.
>>59596101It’s considered uncouth to blatantly say “We’re gonna attack you and take your shit”
>>59594092Well, armenians celebrated ziggers invasion in Ukraine, spreading the same 'Kiev fell in 3 days' bullshit back in 2022And overall they are proxi russian niggers
>>59596615It’s a possibility The U.S. military actively plans for an Iranian invasion of AzerbaijanA Caucasus region dominated by Turks is dangerous for Iran
>>59596641Pakistan dislikes Iran but they don’t hate them. Their #1 problem is their own corruption, then India, then the Taliban.
>>59593607The side would be doing nothing, so get cheering for intervention.
So this is the “power” of the so-called “Multi-Polar World”
>>59595176I think Armenia officially disowning the troops tin the disputed area just did a lot to prevent escalation. I wonder if they did that after the Kremlin told them they can't bail them out of this one.Multipolar world order is going great.
>>59595176possibly, but i don't think this is anything newthe thing stopping acts of aggression like this wasn't the UN or "international community", it was specific security guarantors that staked their reputations on defending those under their umbrellathe reason Azerbaijan is comfortable doing this is that Russia's reputation and capabilities have been shown to be worth shitit's only the places relying on Russia that are now more vulnerable- countries with better security guarantors probably aren't worried yet
So Azerbaijan is an islamic shithole supported by israel and turkey and armenia is supported by russia and iran. I think iran should intervene to make this more fun
>>59596316Nothing. All the problems are Africa and Syria
>turks>azeris>two of the most morally rancid communities>commenting on the internet>about a war that's almost predetermined>where atrocities are guaranteed>against an ethnic group they've victimised for centuries>unironically posting genocide related memes>endlessly>for weeks This is going to be a depressing few weeks
>>59597789t. Serj Tankian
>>59597789Or funny, depending on your point of view. I don't have a dog in this race.
>>59595357Just wanted to say fuck those tea nigger uzbeks. They deserved everything that happened in kyrgizstanGranted the kyrgz govt are a bunch of ungrateful backstabbing ass clowns. That canadian mining company shouldve hired more mercs and shot it out with the military
>>59595685You really are a moron arent you anon?
>>59597489Armenia knows it doesn't have any friends and the world is too distracted to give a shit. So they capitulate, take whatever Azerbaijan tosses them in hopes they only lose the expected amount. How likely is this?
>>59596513its true and you know itps. roches should be nuked right after russia and chinks
>>59597974I'm intrigued.
>>59593950Like of like how America claims the east and Crimea are Ukraine? Or is that different?
>>59596196Same reason we wanted bases in Finland, Baltics, and the Ukraine you fucking idiot.
>>59595999ccp's claim is acknowledged, not recognizedget fucked
>>59598083>Like of like howlolwut>America claims the east and Crimea are Ukraine?Russia also agreed that was the case in December of 1994.I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say 1/10 bait m8
>>59593607both as always. how /pol/ got convinced to support a jew lover is beyond me
>>59598113Literally only 13 countries recognize Taiwan as independent whilst 193 countries recognise It as part of China, since It's the main condition to stablish diplomatic relations with the ROC. So if no-one bats an eye when Azerbaijan takes over the entirety of Nagorno-Kharabakh, means that there's no legal basis to condemn China when they invade Taiwan either.
>>59598083the eastern border of ukraine is retarded in favor of russia
>>59598199Lol yes, the famous Ukrainian heartland of Czechoslovakia and Georgia/Armenia. This is a great meme map
>>59598195uh huhas I said chang, your position is acknowledged. Remain seething on the mainland
>>59598195K.
Lot of self replies all of a sudden. You doing a thing, anon?
>>59598211are you ok? The map doesn't even extend south of the caucasus. As for the poland/slovakia border - rusyns have been there since forever. Read a book or something
>>59598195Kek. The game with Anglo is rigged. Anglo changes the rules if rules don't favor him
>>59597974This is some fucking arcane, esoteric knowledge.
>>59598258Sorry I meant the famous Ukrainian speaking dagistanis and chechens
>>59598218the chinese launched a biological and economic terror campaign against the U.S. and the west for 3 years and America banned the media from talking about it. Know your place little white boy or we will do it again and take your local restaurant from you
>>59597361you are a proxy Russian azergaynigger that signed an alliance treaty with them a day before the war? true lmao
>>59598277half of chechnya and half of dagestan are not even shown on the map and the parts that are represented don't have any ukrainians. Better ask for some backup on the cord you're getting bodied in here
>>59597927t. gay oglu
>>59598195You mean the PRC? Actual china is taiwan
>>59598296wipe your tears and show some proofs?
>>59598312cope and seethe retard
>>59593607The side of Azeris continuing to fuck with Iran instead.
>>59598337thanks for the W third
What are ht eodds that Armenians will be kicked out of their homeland by Azeris for good like Jews were by Romans?
>>59594143I think he means general historical victims to turks.There is a reason thier holy mountian they always talk about is turkish clay and has been for 100 years.That said this war is over a fake break away republic they set up when they invaded the azeris in the 1990s with russian help finally getting corrected.
>>59598442Ararat is Armenian clay and roach diplomats never got fucked but Armenians will do it again? true lmao it's true azerghypsies occupied Armenian land with Russian help but that got corrected by Armenians in the 90s because you belong in the Altai
>>59598431Odds are good they'll lose at least some of it here unless a bigger geopolitical player steps in to broker some sort of deal. Not gonna be Russia though that's become exceedingly obvious (to Armenia)
>>59598459Honestly if I was Azeri leadership I woudl go for complete annexation of whole Armenia, expulsion of Armenians and erasure of Armenian cultural heritage in the area as well as erasure of Armenians culture and identity that survives abroad. They have the means to do it.
>>59598507Yes whislt alienating Azerbaijan from the rest of the civilised world and giving surviving Armenians global sympathy comparable to that of the Jews after worl war 2. Great thinking, batman...
>>59598507>Honestly if I was Azeri leadership I woudl go for complete annexation of whole ArmeniaSounds like biting off more than you can chew to me. That's gonna leave you with a ton of pissed off local Armenians with nowhere to put them, even more pissed off overseas "Armenians", and once the world wakes up and notices what happened there's no way in hell they're gonna consider that legal. Especially with the sudden influx of refugees giving them a headache.There's only so much fait accompli can cover. Azerbaijan's better bet is to snatch up NK with a swiftness and do some quick and dirty forced relocations before any of the heavyweights decides to play the adult in the room.
>>59598579>>59598661Really over estimating how willing the west is to risk that Turk gas, if anything you get ethnic clashes between mudslimes and arm pits in France and apathy from the USA since Biden has proven to be a bigger isolationist than Trump while being firmly against the Chinese-Russian blocs woes
>>59598051>>59598276Small genocide in osh around 2o1o, bunch of bs when russia sold them cheap electricity and then they built us manas airbase, leading to the russians overthrowing the govt. I worked with a guy whose sister married one of the dudes sons, he took me to the country a few times to do business. The canadians ran a gold mining op but the govt got greedy and tried to muscle in on it leading to a few small shootouts. In my experience the kyrgz people are chill but their govt is dogshit. Hopefully they dont get assblasted over water rights in the coming decades. A huge amount of the water in the region starts up in their mountains. Been wanting to become a water warlord but i cant speak russian. Lots of minerals and gold too, the chinks are probably trying to muscle in on it as they share a border iirc
>>59598677I dunno man. Much as I like to paint the US as a brigand state only interested in the money, they do have a moral righteous streak to consider. Go full Bosnia and the old folks in Washington won't just whistle and look the other way, no matter how much crude is on the table. Not to mention France and Britain and the rest
>>59598720>What is Iraq and their genocide of the Kurds >What is Iran and their massacre of the Kurds>What is Saudi Arabia and their mass killings of Yemeni's and Shias in the east>What is the United Arab Emirates and their enslavement of hundreds of thousands of pajeets Modern events have proven time and time again that if you have natural gasses and oil, that at most you'll get a slap in the wrist unless you attack a cunt specifically guaranteed by the USA like Kuwait. Even Russia is getting a slap in the wrist by their sanctions only really hurting billionaires invested in the west for their massive invasion of Ukraine and stealing of children. Azerbaijan isnt a weak pariah like Serbia was, they are a nation with strong allies with far more support in the US like Israel and Turkey
>>59598120Maybe the fact that there are a bunch of Jews in Russia and Ukraine has nothing to do with the war, or maybe it's all a big (((conspiracy))) and you're the victim.
>>59594059You didn't fix anything. Stop projecting you mentally ill moron.
>>59598296If true then they did much worse damage to their own country and welded the slants into their own houses kekChina is bitchmade
>>59593576Time for another Armenian genocide.Armenia just takes constant Ls.
Can someone correct me if I’m wrong here? >be Armenia >NGK region is majority Armenian >Stalin gives this to the Azeris to start problems>this doesn’t get resolved post USSR>Azeris try to forcefully take NGK>Are defeated, BUT I happen to take tons of extra land that isn’t actually Armenian or NGK>Instead of arranging a lasting peace, possibly in exchange for a return of the land I just took and access corridors for Azeri enclaves, I sit on my hands for 30 years and watch Azerbaijani get stronger >I do this because I believe Russia will back me up if Azerbaijan tries anything >It becomes extremely clear that this will not happen and Russia is a paper tiger >I don’t urgently sue for some kind of lasting agreement>2020 happens >I am completely paralyzed, defeated, but the Azeris stop before they completely overrun NGK>It’s completely untenable now though and I legitimately MUST agree to some kind of peace (now on bad terms) >I don’t do this>Russia gets weaker, I go to US for help>US not interested in stopping Azeris >I still don’t sue for peace>This happens OMG HOW COULD THIS POSSIBLY HAPPEN!
>>59599221I was raised being told America is the world police and stops foreign aggression.
>>59598748>KurdsA lot of military and politicians are still asspained over our betrayal of the Kurds. Anyway I'm sure there's something the USA can offer the Azeris in exchange for not making them look like complete assholes when Joe American happens to see some sobbing Armenian kids talked about on the news/twitter in a few weeks
>>59599221Pretty much.Armenians have been handed pretty rough spot historically and geographically speaking, but hells if they do not dig a deeper hole for themselves each time they have a chance.
>>59599221The region was 60% Azeri before the Soviets settled Armenian refugees there, they didnt see a point in changing any borders because the SSR’s were not real functional units till after the death of Stalin
>>59598120Because they're mental midgets that actually believe that their beloved China Russia and North Korea among other dystopians shitholes aren't an integral part of "globohomo" whatever that is
>>59598195They don't recognize Taiwan as part of China bug kid, they just don't recognize the ROC claim over the whole mainland
>>59599761I've never seen anyone unironically support North Korea that wasn't obviouslt a bot. Maybe I don't hang around these people enough. Honestly the way I see it, Russia and China are not globohom, at least not currently. But China especially wants to be, and Russia's cares less about running the world and more about muh lost glorious Russian Empire (while also being nostalgic for the same nation that killed the Russian Empire, what did they mean by this?)
>>59599292>stops foreign aggression.It's not foreign aggression when AZ is policing their own territory.
>>59599221You are wrong on multiple levels.NGK is not Armenian territory, it's an autonomous region inside Azerbaijan that's populated by Armenians.It is NOT a part of the Armenian nation.Azerbaijan did not outgrow Armenia because Armenia was sitting on its hands, Armenia has been dealt a losing hand in geopolitics.Azerbaijan is a petrostate with friendly neighbors and (caspian) sea access.Armenia is a landlocked country whose biggest export is diaspora that's universally hated by their neighbors. Even by Georgia.
>>59598720I invite you to ask a Bosnian how little the US actually gave a fuck about them until political pressure on Clinton and countries in NATO who actually gave a fuck like Turkey pushed the US to act.
>>59593607In another year or two people who say "globohomo" unironically will be as embarrassing as someone who still says "sjw"
>>59595470Clearly ESL, you are agreeing with the person that you are arguing with but don't realize it.
>>59599857The Armenians could've done more to end shit diplomatically but didn't do so.
>>59600035Okay, how?They are a self proclaimed autonomous region within internationally recognized Azerbaijan.They have no pressure or power or leverage for diplomacy at all.This is realpolitik faggot, deal with it.
>>59600160They did have azeri land for 20 years though. They could've negotiated
>>59599857>NGK isn’t Armenian territory I know this, I didn’t claim it was. Armenias geopolitical position is 100% the result of low IQ governance and extremely bad foreign policy. The US would have loved to have had a friendly, Christian country to host troops in. That’s basically all they could have offered, and a US/EU brokered peace agreement.They chose to continue to align themselves with CTSO and Russia while simultaneously allowing their own military to become incredibly weak, while also not pursuing peace at all. They aren’t “dealt” a hand; they have agency and simply made bad decisions repeatedly and are suffering for it.
>>59600160>They have no pressure or power or leverage for diplomacy at all.not anymore, however they DID for 20 years and did absolutely nothing except sniff their own shit.
>>59598457Honestly if I was Armenian leadership I woudl go for complete annexation of whole azergypsy land (it's Armenian clay anyway), expulsion of asergypsies and erasure of azeri cultural heritage in the area as well (there's none) as erasure of azeri culture and identity (not a thing) that survives abroad. They have the means to do it
How much of the fighting has been geolocated so far? Has any territory changed hands? If they make a move for the capital, how will they push? Through Asgaran?
>>59599948Go back.
>>59601007They absolutely do not have the means to do it. Azerbaijan has spent that last decade ramping up its military capability by spending massive amounts of oil money. Armenia has been sitting with their thumbs up their asses. Not to mention Turkey backing Azeris and Russia completely abandoning Amenians.
>>59598296>the chinese launched a biological and economic terror campaign against the U.S>seriously damaging your own economy to own the yanks for 18 monthsImplessive.
>>59601055They absolutely do have the means to do it. Armenia has spent that last decade ramping up its military capability by spending massive amounts of oil money. Azerbaijan is so inadequate they can't even conduct any military operation and has been sitting with their thumbs up their asses. Not to mention Greece backing Armenians and pashitstan completely abandoning azeris
>>59601007I sincerely hope you remember your words when the worst comes.
>>59601007Least delusional Armenian
>>59601077lol where are the videos of azeris getting blown up by tb2? I saw quite a few armenians die today.
>>59601077Wow what a chimpout, impressive.
>>59601083you are the least delusional roach? true lol>>59601080I sincerely hope you remember your words when roaches get rekt lol>>59601085lol where are the videos of roaches not getting rekt? I saw quite a few roaches die today
>>59601096that's an impressive chimpout on your side, ESL jew lol
Oh no, he's at the point where he can't come up with anything other than mirror posts.
>>59601098>>59601109>he's breaking
>>59601109Are your only responses to anons itt seeing Artsakh get dunked on for the second time in three years “Roach!” and “ESL Jew!”? If this is the caliber of Armenia supporters, now wonder shit’s fucked for the Armenia.
>>59601140>he's breaking
>>59601148are your only responses to anons itt seeing gayrabag get dunked on for the second time in three years "chimpout" and "shits fucked"? if this is the caliber of roach supporters, no wonder shits fucked for roaches
>>59601077>Armenia has spent that last decade ramping up its military capability by spending massive amounts of oil money.>Armenia>oil money
>>59601055>They absolutely do not have the means to do it. Azerbaijan has spent that last decade ramping up its military capability by spending massive amounts of oil money. Armenia has been sitting with their thumbs up their asses. Not to mention Turkey backing Azeris and Russia completely abandoning Amenians.>>59601239
>>59593576Unironically, why didn't they just switch those two enclaves? Seems much easier to me.
>>59601272>>59601239Fuggg DDDD:
>>59601275because Nakhijevan and Artsakh are regions of Armenia proper that were occupied by the soviets and given to paki jews called "azeris"
>>59593576Azerbaijanis look like THIS?
>>59601289God save Russia, best ally and eternal friend. Remember, it's forever.
>>59601289And they actually TOOK it! The complete STOOGES!
>>59601275It's like asking jews or muslims to just leave Jerusalem, this is an area that people have tied their entire cultural identity to, they refuse to leave.
https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/16nbvvn/azerbaijani_drone_drone_assisted_air_strikes_on/https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/16nbzap/azerbaijani_tb2_strikes_on_armenian_artillery/More
>>59601289No lol, the area was majority roach for centuries
>>59601416no lol, the area was majority Armenian for millennia>>59601322God save America, best ally ever. remember, it's forever
>>59601563Do you enjoy being a literal sub 80 IQ retard? LMAO
>>59601580you enjoy being a sub 60iq ESL roach retard? true LMAOOOOO
>>59601563False
>>59601611false
>>59598051He says he will never sneed
>>59602385>Posts a cope image showing the pop after the fact of the massive influx of refugees That's cope, mr armpit. You'll do everything besides go volunteer for your people lol
>>59598051Would Azeris pay money for Armenian scalps
GG NO RENO SCALPING FOR US BOYS
>>59593576Its over, Artsakh surrendered and will rejoin Azerbaijan
>>59603229After decades of kvetching and routine breakouts of hostilities, they just rolled out the red carpet in a couple days? >>59601077>>59601098Is this guy gonna be okay? Somebody need to check on that boy
>>59602746>posts fake made up cope image that his brown mothers hands drew in Photoshopthat's cope, mister azergypsy. you'll do everything besides go volunteer for your kishlak lol>>59603266someone should check on this azerjew guys
>>59603200>Azerbaijan? What if it was "I'm-a-gay-man"?
>>59603275>Twenty-four hours after Azerbaijan's army launched an offensive in Nagorno-Karabakh, ethnic-Armenian forces have agreed Russian terms for a ceasefire.>One of the key demands that Karabakh forces have accepted is a proposal for complete disarmament.Anon, it's real. L M A O It's real. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry HAHAHA the thing is though, it's real. HAHAHAHA I'm sorry anon, this really shouldn't be happening to you HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>59603229It's ogre.
>>59603280Right right right right right right right I’m gay
>>59603229that was quick
>>59603229Azeris saw their chance and took it
>>59603304>Twenty-four hours after Armenia's army launched an offensive in Artsakh, ethnic-azerjew forces have agreed Russian terms for a ceasefire.>One of the key demands that azerjew forces have accepted is a proposal for complete disarmament.Anon, it's real. L M A O It's real. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry HAHAHA the thing is though, it's real. HAHAHAHA I'm sorry anon, this really shouldn't be happening to you HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>59603229God damn, that was so fast. Armenians on suicide watch, and a revolution will happen in a few hours for sure
>>59603337imagine churning out cope on 4chan while your people suffer their greatest embarrassment in a century
>>59603352Armeniggers are retarded
>>59603229This is what i thought was gonna happen to Ukraine but instead it happened to a Russian alligned cunt. CSTO rip
>>59603229Let's see how long this one lasts
>>59599948I think that ship sailed years ago actually
Now that's how you do a Special Military Operation, Russia. Except for the shit they do to PoWs. Maybe don't emulate that.
>>59593607globohomo doesn't care for either, its the same tier as an african warwon't even make the 5 o'clock news
>>59593607>least retarded /pol/ user
>>59603337>coping this transparentlyAre there any tall buildings in glendale with a particularly hairy queue forming in front?
>>59603381Israel supports Azeris.
lol, Simonyan is doomposting because Armenians just didn't support Russia hard enough. Cry more cunt.
>>59603413/pol/ is also coping this away by saying this was payback from Russia because some small ngo gave money to Ukraine from Armenian donors
So is the war over now?
>>59603426War over, ethnic cleansing to begin shortly, armenians best get scootin
>>59603426It was a 20 hour special operation, and yes it is. The Azeris got their clay back and Armenia is gonna burn tonight from the riots like last time
>>59599948Oh, it was lethally embarrassing from the very moment it was coined.
>>59601077>>59601188>>59601272I hate armeniggers so much its unreal.
I see the Armenia is still in the denial stage of grief.
>>59603229gang gang
>>59603424I mean, I'm sure the mines that Azeris ran into were placed by the Russians.
>>59597789glendale sure must be nice
>>59603352imagine churning out cope on 4chan while your people suffer their greatest embarrassment in a century lmao>>59603390your brown mother has a hairy queue in front of her? lol
>>59593846t. TurkroachDon't you have a date with a teaboy?
now that was proper special military operation
>>59603413She's legitimately doomposting because her heritage is Armenian and Pashinyan just gave away Artsak
>>59604083Damn I wonder if she regrets advocating for the complete destruction of women and children in another country that was invaded now.
>>59604083No shit. That's why it's funny. She has spent her life being top shill for Russia, and now she's acting like it's all the fault of Armenians for not sucking off Russia as much as she does, as if that's why this happened in the first place. She's a rotten cunt and she deserves to get blackpilled. What's Pashinyan supposed to do? Launch a doomed counterinvasion for something that they annexed in the 1990s anyway?
>>59604081What kind of shit post is this? Armenian military was not involved here, only Karabakh Armenian militias. It's like Donbabwe regulars except they're not getting any support anymore since the 2020 war.
>>59604115I won't be surprised if there's Armo cuntlips bemoaning that Ukraine didn't die faster so Russia could come and wipe their asses for them after they collectively shat themselves, isn't like they're not already NATO begging as it is now saying that they also have some kind of obligation to die for them as well.
>>59603440azergypsies are occupying Armenian land? true lmao
>>59604160Not Armenia proper. A load of people there are upset that the government didn't do shit and are trying to get them fired up.
>>59604190Artsakh region of Armenia, yeah Armenia proper
>>59604248>Artsakh region of Azerbaijanftfy
>>59604349>Artsakh region of Armeniaftfy
>>59604362crucify ghosts in a frozen abyss
>>59604362>no uif this is what armenian retalitation consists of, no wonder they lost half their land claims
>>59604423This dumbass mountain nigger has been to every thread and shitting It up with his delusions
>>59604432>has been going to
>>59604432I couldn't be further removed from the caucuses I just like to see fence jumpers reap what they've sown
>>59596802>thumbnail
>>59604444Likewise, armenians backed the wrong team, and now are getting what they deserve
Which side supports Trump/is right, and which supports Biden/is left? How have there been like 300 posts and no one has answered this question?
>>59595121>Also, why, exactly, is Russia obligated to protect NKgentlemen may i present to you the CSTO, the collective security treaty organisation, aka the collective shithole treaty organisation aka cope natothey got article 4 which is practically the same as article 5 from nato
>>59604469Yes that is what I was getting at in >>59604444 and I am not your Armenian schizo, stop frothing at the mouth trying to pin the tail on your boogeyman
>>59601053Ok r/theDonald diaspora
>>59604592O didn't mean to accuse you of being him anon
>>59604613>I didn'tAm phoneposting
>>59604488Because no one gives a fuck about internal shit flinging that goes on in your zoo disguised as a country
>>59596663Meme websiteDon't like it leave
>>59596196-iran
>>59596331Not him but fwiw I support my weakest enemy against my strongest enemyYou know, like how the jews support blacks against Whites
>>59601608>>59601272>>59601188so faggot they surrendered what now
>>59604423>no uif this is what roachjew retaliation consists of, no wonder you lost half of your land claims>>59604432dumbass diaspora nigger from germany you shit up all threads with your delusions? true lmao bwahahaha roachjew seething hard xD
>>59605105faggot why did you surrender
Guys, guys.It's over. You can calm down now.
>>59593607Allow me to translate this gentlemen’s speech. “Which side does Zionist Russia support that way I can blindly follow them while supposedly hating jews”>>59598120/pol/ basically became Serbia if it was a message board instead of a country. Zionist contrarianism
>>59605413azerjews got rekt lmao
>>59598001Apparently very fucking likely lol >>59603229
>>59606175you got fucked azerjew? true LMAOOOOO
>>59603229FASTER THAN THE 3 DAY SMOFUCKING LMAO KREMLIN MALDING WITH ENVY
>>59607038damn you got rekt azerjew lmao
>>59595357>the war in the late 80sMy SKS was actually used in that war.
>>59607456Very nice.