Looks like we forgot editionPrevious >>59516099Resource on what these spec terminology meanhttps://www.nite-walker.com/post/2019/11/21/specs-for-dummies-101https://apollogearco.com/blogs/news/night-vision-specs-explainedhttps://gloomgroup.com/blogs/night-vision-info/night-vision-specifications-understanding-what-they-meanYou shouldn't be chasing for spec values but they do exist and if you wanted to know what "better spec" values are there's a way to know which unit is desirable over another.Most retailers won't post this info as they build NVDs to order, first come first serve, and depending on their grading scale of high, mid, low tier it may differ from retailers. If a retailer offer a “ready to ship” fully built units they will list the spec values. Hand select is an option from retailers that will try to match to your spec requirements.Some reputable retailers:https://www.jrhenterprises.com/https://steeleindustries.com/https://nvisionoptics.com/https://www.customnightvision.com/https://apollogearco.comSNR: signal to noise ratio, the amount of signal the tube can make compared to the noiseEBI: equivalent background information, how much false image appears in the screen through which the actual image has to show, sort of a noise floor of sortsHalo: How big the circle of bloom is around lightsPhotocathode Sensitivity: How sensitive the photocathode isLP Resolution: Line pair res of the center of the image as measure against a standardized chartIf one spec is shit it negates the rest, if you have a halo of 2.0 it kinda fucks on an EBI of 0.20 if you want to do any kind of shooting and it's all a balance gameThe numbers to meet or beat areEBI under 1, preferably under 0.6 being great, 0.1 is gucciHalo under 1, anything under 0.7 is awesomeSNR, over 25 anything over 30 is gucciPhotocathode, 1900+ is pretty great, 2500+ is stellarResolution of 64+ is good, 72+ is gucci
>>59586360here ye hear ye all poorfags
Recommendations for weapon mounted thermals that can be used with an lpvo?
>>59588105What caliber will this be on?I think the the AGM StingIR 640 is a good inexpensive one to go with but it is only rated to 5.56.Otherwise the iRay RH25 is a general good recommendation by most thermal clip-on users.
>>59588139Would be 5.56
Anyone got any experience with ACT's THE-14? Would it make sense to pay a little more to get a monocular lighter than a PVS-14?
>>59588425>Would it make sense to pay a little more to get a monocular lighter than a PVS-14?Not really, unless one were to bridge two of them. A PVS-14 is plenty light. I would fear accessory compatibility issues. The -14 is almost a standardized mono at this point. Support for it is great. The upsell would need to be pretty strong to get me to drop the -14.
>>59588425the pvs is already pretty light any weight savings is over shadowed by proprietary parts availabilitypvs parts are ubiquitous IMO
>>59588543a light device is always better, going from a pvs14 to a tanto feels amazingbut i wear my shit for like 3-6 hours at a time so it matters more to me
Is there any merit to building a PVS14 yourself any benefits? price etc?>>59586360
>>59588139>RH25sucks after 4x sadly.
What is the best night vision available for around 2-2.5k? I hear digital has gotten pretty good.
>>59588673https://steeleindustries.com/product/si-pvs-14-l3-photonis-echo-wp/about the cheapest you can get into it and still have a quality tubedon't do digital
>>59588573>a light device is always better,Sure, I just do not see the benefit of dropping such a small amount of weight to leave the universality of the -14. I have worn the -14 straight through the night with no real issues. I do recommend a counterweight for long usage sessions like that, though.
>>59588729Would this have any light protection or does it have to be babied
>>59588749it still uses 14 glass, which is the most likely thing to break, and uses 14 accessories
>>59588752photonis is auto gated so it'll be hard to kill your tube unintentionally
>>59588752It needs reasonable care. If you want something ruggedized against excess light, then consider thermal. They come with their own headaches, though.
>>59567451https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-36/part-261/section-261.10#p-261.10(d)Generally anything outside of this^ is good to go in any national forest in the US. They are adult playgrounds. I've never found anything about day vs night, and no specific restrictions in Allegheny.A reasonable person would say that if you can see what you're shooting at, you're not being negligent.
>>59588959How retarded would it be to wear an nvg on your non shooting eye and then run a thermal on your rifle
>>59589034That is almost an ideal setup. It takes getting used to it but it is not retarded.
Sneed is now shipping in a "fancier" box. Will take a picture when I get a chance.
>>59589402Is it the camo one
>>59589437Yeah silver camo. They put a slogan on there>Be Professional. Be Ready.
>>59589021I'll need to convince someone to go with me for a night camp and ruck.
>>59589109Cool, any anon know where should I look for a primer/guide to thermals
>>59589034youve actually discovered current infantry doctrine for handling near peer adversaries>>every soldier cant have quads but a monocle and a weapon thermal is doable and the best contender out there no light signature with you ir laser or illumator >>you're a chad get it done
Looking to downgrade for some cash, anyone have a PVS-14, or maybe 15’s/low end duals maybe they’d be interested in trading for my ARNVG’s? High spec elbit tubes, 33 SNR, can send spec sheets and everything if anyone reaches out
>>59590483Price?
>>59590597Straight cash price, I’d say $8k. $5-6k on top of a PVS-14
Finally back in the game here in the arctic.
>>59590483this sounds like runescape ngl
>>59588573bungie the back of your helmet to your drag handle. >>59588749agreed, 14 is so ubiquitous not to mention robust. Outperforms most native duals on a panning bridge at the cost of negligible weight, plus the ability to break one off and now you've got two guys with noodles, or just a lighter setup than duals. >>59588959I think the point is there no more susceptible to light damage than other (gen3) tubes, except maybe L3 (which are technically unfilmed but as durable)
>>59590720I have a ton of feedback on akfiles and tacswap, if anyone’s serious I can verify via email
>>59586360Chinese pvs-14 clone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX_QYcD9qdM
>>59590935I've got a chinese pvs-14 gen 2+ WP clone by some company called Xi'an MH. I can't get gen 3 nvgs and I don't have any other devices to compare it to, but the image quality is pretty good from what I can tell, no blemishes at all, and the housing seems pretty decent, the switch feels quite nice, IR illuminator works perfectly fine, eye relief is good, etc. I THINK these clones pretty much all use NNVT tubes and mine has auto-gating too. Oh, it also came with a mount/j-arm (Honestly pretty meh), a bag, and a skull crusher.
>>59590760>which are technically unfilmedNah, this is a sham. They are filmed. They just use a different film. They are lying cocksuckers.
>>59590935Those Lindu housings also apparently don't work with regular J-Arms.>>59591187Did you order directly from them on Alibaba or elsewhere?
>>59591229alibaba, I submitted a RFQ and someone from that company reached out to me.>>59590935taking another look, and the glass on mine does have a bit of distortion around the edges but not TOO noticeable. Also mine turns on instantly, did not have to wait like 3 second like his lol, but again, different company.
>>59589697What state?
>>59588425If you want a lighter pvs14 get the tanto
>>59591262Thanks. I've been thinking about ordering a NNVT tube in the future. Them and Xi'an GKZT (JPNV) seem like one of the bigger sellers.
>>59591315It sounds like the next nvg night meetup is northwest PA.
>>59586360
>>59587366Fatass
>>59591315Pennsylvania. Allegheny National Forest. Sounds like it's the only option I have for night shooting outside of guardian training center and I don't want guns on drawn on me over there.
>>59590483>Looking to downgrade>anyone have a PVS-14, or maybe 15’s/low end duals>trading for my ARNVG’s? High spec elbit tubes, 33 SNRok, whats the catch? why would you trade ARNVGs for a pvs-14 or shitty 15s? Whats wrong with them? dont lie anon. why in the fuck would you do that?
>>59592864If you are also going be using the optic for milsimming what material won't impair thermal wavelengths to shield the front of the optic with? I looked into these and pulsar seemed good for my needs.
>>59594640well he did say you had to add $5-6k on top of a PVS-14 >>59590662
>>59594810>>59594640Yes please read entire post before you reply “looking to downgrade for some cash” and then replied to Ash with specific dollar amounts
New Sneed switch with an M3 has a very slight delay unfortunately. Button on the device itself doesn't have a discernible delay. No chance to shoot with the upgraded QD mount yet.
>>59594269Ah damn, that sucks. Yeah national forests are probably the way to go. I would scope out an area beforehand during the day and make sure there's a good backstop
>>59594810>>59594871doesnt answer the question of why.
>>59595096I don’t use them as much as I should, would prefer to have the cash. Anything else you want to know?
>>59595117im not giving shit (though i may be bustin' balls). Im just curious if there is a deficiency in the ARNVG design. Dont care so much about what your needs are, just what is the driving factor, aside from money, if any, that is affecting your decision.
>>59595302Oh no the ARNVG’s are great if you have the money. I’m sure I’ll wind up with duals again, would rather have some money towards a down payment on a home currently. I did a ton of research on housings and I think it’s the best at the moment if you care about durability. Lack of IPD stops has not been an issue, I’ve never had a problem with movement either.
>>59595484Not him, but I think that the IPD stops are more important for monos that get flipped from eye to eye than for binos.
>>59595692call me unimaginative, but where would you implement an ipd stop for an articulating mono?
>>59595891The Wilcox J-arm has it built in. So does the Norotos J-arm, but the IPD is built into the articulation, so that is not a good example. The Wilcox has a thumbnut on the front to lock/unlock the IPD for adjustment.
>>59594269That's well within driving distance for me, any way to learn more about it?
>>59597597Internet, basically. Funny I'm reading up about it now but also >>59589021
FUCK I'm so mad. They canceled the DIR-V sale and refunded me.
>>59598502qrd?
>>59598509This place had the DIR-V on sale for $1776 with a coupon code.https://csgarmory.com/product/3eir-designate-ir-v/
>>59598509dealer posts sale for below map on r*ddit and gets bitched slapped by mfg>>59598522reading comprehension issue
>>59598534>reading comprehension issueExplain faggot
>>59598522>>59598534If Arisaka and 3EIR already cucked the distributor, doesn't seem like they had to follow through with cucking the customer on a deal. Sucks all around.
>>59598502>>59598534>dealer posts sale for below map on r*ddit and gets bitched slapped by mfgFuck that sucks.I bet there was like only like 5-10 people who even bother ordering it, NVD and LAM owners are already small as it is they should have liked the few amount of sales they got.
>>59589034It works but it doesn't replace the IR laser completely. Thermals are quite bulky compared to conventional optics so you may find that you physically cannot look through the scope unless you flip the monocular out of the way first.
>>59597597Just do it
>>59598502>FUCK I'm so mad. They canceled the DIR-V sale and refunded me.KEK i got mine from optics planet black friday for $1542 last year. i bet they will do it again if you wait
>>59598844How much does it weigh? Arisaka says 5 ounces while the manufacturer says 8 ounces.
>>59598854the 5 oz is the old weight without the new mount, 8oz is with the new mount. arisaka hasnt updated their specs yet.
>>59598897The wilcox raid xe is 5oz and the ngal is 5oz. Considering this thing is majority plastic that's a pretty disappointing weight.
>>59598502You will pay the laser toll.
>>59594640Dumbass.
>>59595096Are you fucking stupid? >hi guys im doing some stuff and would like to turn this asset into liquid capital.
>>59598854>>59598897>>59598936This is the first gen DIR-V and I weighed it with a cr123 battery.I would like to see the Raid-X/Xe weight being measured, I don't doubt it is a lightweight but being 5oz with a battery and more alumimum material is crazy light imo.
>>59598936>The wilcox raid xe is 5oz and the ngal is 5ozthose are 5 thousand dollar optics bro. 8oz isnt bad, same weight as a peq, and fp peqs go for $2500+ these days. DIRV is arguably better illuminator than pq peq too. >>59598976>You will pay the laser toll.everything on the market is compromised in some way, you just pick which hole youd like to be fucked
>>595990525oz is first gen no battery, 8oz is 2nd gen with battery.
>>59586360I am a faggot
>>59599183>even taken from this threadKEK
>>59599129>everything on the market is compromised in some way, you just pick which hole youd like to be fuckedthe end result of min/maxing lasers is sucking dick in a TGI fridays parking lot just to get the chance to purchase a $6000 fp NGAL from Agent Smith.
Talk to me about the life of NVGs. I know after a certain amount of hours the tubes burn out or something but what does that actually mean. Are they still useable just diminished, can they be refurbished, totally dead? I know this is like being worried about buying a gun because the barrel will be shot out eventually but i read about someone accidentally leaving them on and people were acting like he ruined them.
>>59589402Can confirm. Mine arrived yesterday
>>59599183>Elbit bossesCool it with the anti Semitic remarks
>>59599223>>59599223>certain amount of hoursVery high number for modern production. Like 10k hours. >totally dead?No just progressively more dim>accidentally leaving them on is ruiningOnly if exposed to sun light or other bright lights. There's even a tube healing technique called the shoebox trick where you leave it on in the dark (shoebox) to heal any burn in.
>>59599223they wear out but it takes a long time. decades with normal use.>leaving it onthats different. you can burn bright lights into a tube in a matter of hours.
>>59599249it can heal MCP burn in to an extent. severe damage = you are fucked. ive seen pvs 14s with a permanent Eotech ring in them.
>>59599260Yeah true. I only brought it up to say that leaving a NOD on without light exposure won't hurt it
Is laserspeed actually good? I have a holosun ls321r, but thinking about getting a full power laser as well. What's their best model?
>>59599280People say the M3 is best, never used one myself. FL5 is /nvg/ approved, though. Cool thing about Laserspeed is if they ehsr about a problem they will try to roll out an update quickly.
>>59599280yeah its pretty good. i used to own a LS321, the illum was shit past 70 yards. too dark to see. upgrade to laserspeed, it sits lower on the rail which is nice. low mode is about equal to my old ls321, but high mode is so beautiful. if youve never used a full power illuminator under nods you are missing out. you can blast trees 300 yards away. it feels really good and cool
>>59599280Just search laserspeed fl5 on ebay. and impulse buy it, you wont regret it
>>59599323>>59599374>>59599404thanks for the info guys, just gotta choose between the m3 or fl5 now lol. The m3 is cheaper on ebay though.
>>59599442>m3more durable, better switches, but sits higher, blocks more of your optic.>FL5same thing, but better mount that sits lower. significantly lighter weight than an m3 + dedicated weaponlight setup. theyre both good. id say get fl5 probably. make sure the seller is "DDlaser" thats the real one.
>>59599280Laserspeed has a sale on ebay right now for 15% off, but be aware that as >>59599129 mentions everything on the market is compromised in some way. Sneeds are slightly heavier. M3 is 11 oz without a battery.
Is there a brand you guys prefer for unprotected 18650 batteries? Also do you guys keep the batteries in your fl5 or take em out for storage?
Fuck it the order cancelation was a sign. I'm just going to wait for the phantom hills CTF3 now. I already own a kiji and surefire head so it makes sense anyways. Still pissed as fuck that these guys got slapped down by arisaka and cancelled my order.
>>59599540either sanyo, samsun, or LG unprotected. flat top. example: https://www.18650batterystore.com/products/samsung-25si dont take my batteries out. but i use lens caps for laser eye safety. get a nitecore charger
>>59599569can I also use 2 cr123a batteries, or is that not recommended?
>>59599602Not recommended long term, but it will work if you're in a pinch. If you need cr123 get m3
>>59599249>>59599255So lifespan is basically a non issue for most people, thats good to know. Dont use them around bright lights was kind of a given but its nice to know they wont be totally fucked if i turn the lights on or something by accident. That makes them a lot more appealing. Obviously tgey last more than a few days being on, the military wouldnt issue them out to sveryone if they were that fragile. Its kind of a big investment and i have a hard time trying to learn because every resource is also trying to sell them.
>>59599280The plain black M3 from there is very good all things considered. Slightly on the heavy side but its performance is better than a full power PEQ.
>>59599552Sneed or bust
>>59599824this is going to sound a little masturbatory but i honestly wouldnt trust any other resource to be impartial other than /nvg/. NODs are the new hypebeast shit like the infiniti g35 drift missile used to be a few years ago.
>>59599983I take most things here with some salt but honestly i trust /k/ more than most other places.My big issue is trying to read up on the specs and what each means. Every vendor has a slightly different description or says this thing matters more than that or even though this tube has worse numbers its actually better because of these other numbers. Its a pain and without pictures to compare all the description is meaningless. At this point i feel like i need to buy aviation rates tubes just to ensure theyre good all around.
>>59600076>At this point i feel like i need to buy aviation rates tubes just to ensure theyre good all around.Even a used omni 8 will still impress you a lot. Try not to get caught up in the spec race. Just find a Gen 3 mono from one of the OP stores and you'll be well taken care of.
>>59600142Im sure i would be happy with anything to be honest. I probably couldnt tell the difference unless they were both in front of me and someone was walking me through what to look for.
>>59600289Here you go. Gen2+ AGM bridged with an aviation grade L3 WP. You will get more gain with the L3 but as the ambient light diminishes, any tube is indeed magnitudes better than no tube and the AGM will do upwards of 95% the same thing the L3 can do, especially with any sort of IR illumination. The last ~5% cost me over $3k to find out...Also regarding tube life, it's like some weird half-life type function where a tube with X0,000 hours will only be like 10% darker than a tube with X,000 hours. Totally pulled those numbers out my ass but somebody posted the science here months back and the main takeaway is you'll never notice/have to worry about it.
I ordered the FL5 and they're apparently going to ship an upgraded pressure switch with it. Pretty neat since the original, from what I've seen on youtube, looked pretty shitty.
>>59600712Looks like two different buttons? I wonder what they do. Momentary and constant?
>>59600746Yes.>>59600712I'm playing with the switch. It's okay.
>>59600712It's a much better button but it's still kind of mid bc of the plug that sticks out 1.5 inches out the back of the unit. You can see it in that picReal pipe cloggers just use the main button and go without.
>>59586360How come laser illuminators don't get any hype?I bought one of these laser genetics nd5. Scope mounted illumination lasers for hog Killin at night. Shit was like 100$ works fucking perfect. Deer and hogs seem to not give a shit about being blinded by it.
>>59600778oof yeah that's kinda ridiculous
>>59600394Thanks. I dont know how much my screen changes things but those looks way closer than i expected. I was thinking it would be like a moonbeam compared to a modern led flashlight. I hate hypebeasts online trying to convince me i need to drop $6k on a set of tubes. It doesnt look like theres as drastic a difference in generations as some people like to claim.
Thermal is too much fun
>>59601298You finally fixed your scope and thermal placement.
>>59601298That looks heavy af
>>59600795>laser illuminatorssame power limitations as any other civilian laser.
>>59601330its been fixed a while I just cba taking pics plus its getting moved to XCR soon.>>59601365yeah its pretty fucking heavy
i want to see what nv is like.i was thinking about looking into some astronomy groups because those sorts of people might actually have nods. do you figure that's reasonable?
>>59601298Isn't chinese fanta just fanta but more expensive
>>59601399Its peach and it was $2
>>59601371What limitations?Looking down a scope it's a nice soft green glow covering the form of the scope picture. It doesn't need to be any more powerful. At 150 yards and less it's pretty much perfect illumination. If you're talking about the mW or whatever they don't sell them in the US anymore, you gotta buy from a chink site like aliexpress so they are probably above whatever the US allows. It's not so ridiculously powerful it will kill birds in trees or light matches like some on aliexpress, but its plenty good. I never see anyone with one. I just think people don't know about them. They are absolutely worth the $120 or whatever.
>>59600712>>59600778I really dont know how people are trying to shill this switch. It offers nothing in any form of advancements, except maybe asthetics. Get a 45 degree connector soldiered to a hot button, mod button, or surefire switch. inb4 send your suggestions to LS, already did and LS is in these threads. Case in point them reposting the crossbolt mod to the M3 on their facebook page and saying "nice try" for some wierd reason.j2
I hope PSA starts making nightvision so I can afford a half decent system.
>>59601647lol no.
>>59601647lmao, PSA does not have the capital to afford to fund R&D into NVD tube manufacturing. They could try to buy some NVD tube manufacturer that are looking to sell but its unlikely they are.Your best bet is the chinks selling their NVDs but looking at this and the chain replies, >>59590935, their quality and pefromance is not on par with western manufacturing.
>>59586360How does a holosun EPS or 509T circle look under NV?I have a EPS 6 MOA dot only and I'm looking at one of the aforementioned two for a rifle backup dot.
>>59601731Here is hop's review of the EPS and comparing to the 509T this is the timestamp of him comparing both of them under NODs: https://youtu.be/EXQo75-I_EE?t=231Both seems to be good to go with for passive aiming under NODs.
>>59601671Norinco has dropped a really nice looking mono unit recently its $1700 USD and has 51 degrees lens NNVT gen 2+ tube.
>>59601778>51 degrees lensIts likely the same source AGM is using for their 51 degrees lens and so its gonna be shit, horrible fish eye and so many lens flare and other light artifacts.
>>59601792nah it didnt look as bad as AGM
>>59601798https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZssZK0gmKGkhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/vQP8JbTYmiI
>>59601647If they get into the NV assembler game then I don't even know if they could buy enough to get a decent discount from the tube manufacturers. They sure as hell won't be manufacturing the tubes or the housings themselves.>>59601778>NorincoAren't they technically sanctioned? I'm interested either way.
>>59601813>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vQP8JbTYmiIYou can see the visual distortion at 35s to 42s when hes panning around, its not as bad as AGM but it aint good either.But hey if you want cheapo NVDs go for it.
>>59601845Idk waiting for them to drop just the housing and run it as duals.>>59601841idk if something like night vision housing from them would be but I have a guy who can get it to me tho he charges a fee.
>>59601731Here’s my 509 acss under NODs.
how much do surplus aviation tubes go for on ebay generally?like what range, 500-1500?
>>59602598Way less, you can get them for 300-600
Biggest problem with getting those Norinco nods is the tariff you'll need to pay if you're in the US lmao. 25%. And they'll be 2k+ before tariff anyway due to shipping and shit.
>>59603463They just need to sell them on ebay I guess.
>>59603885You'd still get hit with the tariff though? Unless they lie lol
>>59604000>Unless they lie lolNow you're cooking with jet fuel.
>>59604000>>59604026This is the correct answer. The chinks are based in this regard. They will write you a product description in Chinglish describing it as >hunting sport recreation device binocular lucky new year fortune Rolex hunterAnd then somehow it slips right through customs.
>>59590697Rad. I know the winter must be insufferable but having almost exclusive night has for 24-hr NV sounds fun.
>>59601671>PSA does not have the capitalmaybe if the owner would stop buying Maclarens and invest more in quality they could
>>59605147>maybe if the owner would stop buying Maclarenshe deserves em
my laserspeed green/ir laser came it. this model is deninitely not for operating. plasticy selector knob + button on the right side of the body. laser is clean and strong tho.
>>59605354Which model is that? Was it the pistol laser one?
>>59605363the 2l-1. i even got the 'shockproof' version.
>>59605385This looks remarkably similar to some Amazon models I have seen. I wonder if LS is whitelabeling to fill out their line up
>>59605385>expect to see FL5 or M3>Thiswot teh fock
>>59605354>>59605385Good enough for a Filipino cop but, the FL5, M3, and L7 are still the only devices that currently have the /nvg/ Seal of Approval.>>59605516You must be thinking off the Sniper 3000. There's also the Subzero Lasers DLAD which supposedly uses the housing but, puts in American made diodes.>I wonder if LS is whitelabeling to fill out their line upIt's got to be the other way around. They do OEM/ODM for other companies. At least four of Newcon Optik's products are Lasersneeds.
retard i used to know made this, what do you guys think
>>59586360So how long until /nvg/ kidnaps laseranon, handcuffs him to a radiator, and forces him to make us a cheap, durable laser unit?
>>59605562>It's got to be the other way around. They do OEM/ODM for other companies. At least four of Newcon Optik's products are Lasersneeds.You're right I'm backwards>>59605579Nice work on the graphic, anon. It is a little busy but it's hard not to be. The only thing I disagree with on here is the ebay Wilcox mounts. I use a sotac and like it.
>>59605579>5k for dualsthey're like 8k minimum now no/
>>59605579I like it, did you use Lucid Chart? lol
>>59605789you can get BNVD MKIIs on sale for 5.5k, July 4th sales.
>>59605817Ah okay. Well unfortunately they're likely to be more expensive now :(
>>59605827yea it sucks man, the Elbit tubes have price hikes now, I doubt we will see 5k duals ever again unless they get rid of some old stock.
>>59605665>cheap, durableDesigning the thing is half the battle. Manufacturing even one unit can't be cheap unless you already got free access to a CNC machine or industrial 3D printer.>>59605817If you're referring to JRH then he hasn't carried them for at least a year. He's shilling Nocturn Katanas now.
>>59605910>If you're referring to JRHhe's great, but nah I meant ApolloGear had a big sale during July 4th
>>59598502Why is this not allowed but when they sell their shit on optics planet coupon codes are?
>>59606690I think they can offer a promo code and advertise the sale and useage of the promo but you can't say the price itself, something about not showing the MAP pricing to the public or some shit. You'll see that on gun.deals when they have prices not shown until you click the link to the store and then see it for yourself vs being advertised.
>>59605910>industrial 3d printerProbably can easily get away with it using most 3D printers.
>>59603463I mean I was just going to have my guy ship it as a camera lens and mark it worth $50.
>>59607281Also shipping from china costs nothing they would be like $1750-1800 shipped.
>>59605579>no airsoft wilcoxyeah this guy is a tard.
Is liemke merlin or agm tc19 a good budget clipon for a guy who doesnt want to spend thousands on what is essentially a fancy camera?
>>59605579I would change:(wording)1k-> shitty (digital, gen 1, gen 2)1.5k-3k->do you mean over 2k-> no pvs 7-> yes pvs14.
>>59607293weird, they had tax and some other fees when I tried and totaled up to $1.9~2k before shipping. Decided to just get a pvs14 WP clone from alibaba for a bit less lol.
>Ended up just putting the sneed back on the side of my rifle
>>59587366nothing sounds worse than MRE pizza
>>59609231Supposedly it's not terrible. No match for the real thing obviously but if you're huddling in a foxhole it's close enough to real pizza to make your day a little better.
Whats the deal with digital nightvison? Is it good now or still early adoption level tech? Im sure it will be useable someday but ive heard about too many wonder techs that are just 1, 2, 3 years out
>>59609231It's somewhat edible at least.
>>59609298>2 more weeks!
>>59608865It's just too damn big.>>59609295Dude that's BS. When I ate one the "crust" was just the MRE brick bread and the sauce tasted like coppery acid. Could be a different production now, though. Last time I had an MRE was like 09.
>>59609413>It's just too damn bigYeah, I don't have a hell of a lot of rail space and with the button it just was impossible
>>59609298For the most part it sucks. There are essentially three main reasons why:>It breaks down in even slightly dark conditions without fuck off levels of IR illumination>Doing the signal processing to produce a usable image take noticeable amounts of time resulting in what can become nauseating levels of latency.>Battery Life sucks compared to an analog image tube In terms of future development, 1 and 2 can be partially mitigated by better sensors. There's a couple paths that digital can in theory get performance on par with analog. SPAD sensors and the thing IVAS uses are probably the two big ones. Canon came out with a SPAD camera recently so in the next few years we'll probably see if they live up to the hype or not. As far as the IVAS Sensor goes it's best thought of as the bastard child of a conventional camera and an image tube. Replace the phosphor screen of a tube with a sensor and that's what the IVAS sensor is like. It's probably better than a SPAD but it's also unlikely to hit the commercial market anytime soon. Either way better sensors means less processing is needed to generate the image which means less latency. No matter what though you're still going to have to do some processing which means that you'll never be able to fully eliminate but eventually it'll probably hit a point where it'll be less nauseating. For 3 the battery gap is unlikely to improve anytime soon without some massive breakthroughs.
>>59609231>>59609295>>59609299They're the same product as the bridgford pizza slices you can get at cabelas or bass pro or amazon.they're not terrible, but the come with the usual quirks like the crust being dense from preservatives and vacuum sealed. If you've ever had MRE italian breadsticks the consistency is similar. The sauce is fine, mostly flavorless and the cheese/pepperoni is palatable. If you have some hot sauce or a homie with a red sauce pasta MRE (spaghetti, meatballs, elbow mac, etc). If you can get single serve parmesan it's even better. It's in my top 5 and definitely a treat compared to a lot of the normal MRE fare even if it isn't my absolute favorite.>>59609413Stop bullshitting. The pizza MRE (pepperoni) has only been in menu rotation since 2018 and the cheese slice even later than that
>>59609298It isn't for anything even close to near peer shit. For animals or dumbfuck bipeds? It is renting the night at the expense of massive amounts of supplemental IR.Doing something like bolting a Sionyx Aurora to your head won't allow you to do shit a gen 3 white phosphor would. Or even a used and salty Omni 8 spec green phosphor tube. But I can allow you to see deeper into mixed lighting environments.>Pair with a thermal for maximum banditry. Keep still and only illum on a large heat sig.
>>59605114Although there is 24 hour sunlight in the summer. There is no 24 hour night. There is an amount of daylight throughout the winter.
getting a mikron d in soon.
>>59599505Grab the FL5 which is 10.5oz instead of the M3 and you can ditch your flashlight, saving weight
>>59586693>>59586693I'm running the nighyowl 2x monocular. 100% worth the money. Fucking MOGGS the digital monoculars.
>>59611004Luv me night owls. Simple as.
>>59610969The FL5 is actually what I took off my rifle, lol. Flash light interfered with my sight post too much. I need to get a combo gas block. The M3 feels a bit more premium. Also was fucking around with a chink surefire scout clone and didn't feel much weight difference to justify.
>>59591262So when you submitted the rfq, what did you mention? The baba page mentions min quantity is 5 and I don't want to get told to fuck off.Or do they not care at all? Cause that price is perfect for a star gazing and dog walking nvg.
>>59610271Get a diet you fat fuck
>>59613254When I submitted the rfq they let me choose to set the quantity to 1 Box/Boxes. Pretty sure the min quantity doesn't matter, just tell whoever reaches out to you that you only want 1 item. Also if you can get tax exempt from Alibaba, would strongly recommend doing so if possible. Also just reminding you that there's a 25% tariff for Chinese goods over $800 dollars if you're in the US, but they might just lie for you and declare a lower amount. That Xi'an MH company also sent me videos of the product (or at least a sample they had on hand) with my name and timestamp lol
>>59613254Also I got another pvs14 WP gen 2+ clone from another company called Beijing Ruiyanjunan, ended up costing 100 dollars or so less since they didn't charge me for express shipping. That one also switches on instantly and has a perfectly fine IR illuminator but the housing is a bit worse imo, switch is too tight and the battery cap is dogshit imo. The image is a bit whiter and seems a bit clearer though but I may have gotten lucky (also no blemishes). This one came with a case, better helmet mount imo (I had to ask them to provide one for free though), a pouch for storage but no skullcrusher.
>>59613425>>59613501You Mvp. Thanks annon, will reach out to them today.
Am I apart of the club now?
>>59613636Don't be afraid to drill them with questions and also ask them what the best price/actual price is because when I got my clones, they offered to sell the MH one for less than what was listed and the Beijing one's actual price was higher than the listing.
>>59613652unironically yes
>>59613652As it turns out, you are.
>>59591187>>59591262>>59613425Bro please do a full write up with pictures on your Chinese units. I have been dying to know if they're worthwhile ever since Teslords happened. >how much>how long was shipping>spec sheets>comparisons to other unitsPlease, anon. /nvg/ calling you.
Are there any white/ir combo lights besides the inforce, vamp, and the m952v?
>>59614506Yeah I've been meaning to post pics but I'm at work rn lol
Have LaserSneed updated their FL5 since the brassfacts review, with the shitty turrets? Debating between that and an i2 9007. Also in the process of getting my pvs-14s converted into a Katana housing.
>>59615286Yes they even show you the updated version on their pages.
>>59615327Okay cool, has anybody done any non-basement testing to see if they hold up at all? I have a few units I use so not my primary setup, but don't want it falling apart in like 1k rounds.
>>59615371Not yet for me :(
>>59613652Nerfanon here, you are indeed part of the NV club now. I recommend rubberbanding the IR light to the lower left side of the Modulus, there's a couple of spots where it nestles in nicely. That said, due to recent Amazon pricing changes you can get a much superior Chinesium digital mono for about the same price as a Nerf + IR light. Just food for thought.
>>59615371the turrets on my new-prod FL5 are tight. and the recessed thing seems to work, they're nearly impossible to bump. they also greatly improved the main selector switch. dont have a pic but i compared it to an old one and the quality is night and day.
>>59614593Streamlight TLR VIR II and Zenitco Klesh 2. Nightfox Spectrum if you want to include handhelds.
>cap for switch port hanging off by wire on sneedDo you personally tape it down or cut it off?
>>59615766taped it down with electric tape on me m3. underneath so it's out of the way. if that doesnt work just cut it
>>59615736Okay might just send it, 15% off is pretty nice so yolo
>>59615834yeah. i would. theyre my favorite lasers and ive gotten 3 different compliements from my haznods friends who have peq and mawl. I also went to a night class and everyone was 'miring it then the lights came on and they found out it was a chinese unit. the reaction was a combination of intrigue and disgust lmaothe flashlight on the FL5 is "good enough", but if you can get by with it, the weight savings are huge.
Anyone know how the iRay USA Cabin Monocular 2.5x25mm compares to the ml19 shown in the infograph? Its about $500 cheaper, and I'm looking for just a handheld. Its a 50 Hz 12 um micro sensor and similar video resolution. Just looking for a handheld thermal and the fact that it has a range finder on it as well seems really nice.
>>59599491Is it just me or did they change their name to Laserspeed on eBay? I remember ddlaser but I'm not seeing them anymore.
>>59617042i still see them as ddlaser on ebay
>>59617042nope. DDlaser is still there. anything that isnt DDlaser is a scam/knockoff. yes thats right. chink knockoffs of chink lasers. thats how you know laserspeed made it.
>>59605665Hard to be stealthy when your laser unit is visible from orbit.
>>59614593Is there any white/red/ir combo light? That would be awesome but I bet it's too niche to existMight go with a white/ir on rifle and white/red on helmet
>>59617601it's now Laserspeed, same user feedback and i had their fl5 in my watchlist
>>59617682streamlight sidewinder i have the df (aa/cr123) version with white/ir/red/blue light
>>59617682Nitecore CI6 850nm
>>59617042>>59617699Yep they did.>>59617592>>59617601It seems like it depends on if you're logged in or not. If you're logged in it shows as Laserspeed, logged out shows ddlaser, but the link to the ddlaser user takes you right to the LS storefront.https://www.ebay.com/usr/ddlaser
>>59617774I'm logged in, it shows as ddlaser.
>>59617682Princeton Tec Charge or Charge Pro. I think the only difference between them is the battery.
>>59617682Get creative.
>>59617880Ty, most knowledgeable and helpful thread on this board
>>59617957Feel kind of stupid I didn't think of this
>>59618427Everyone forgets about the nightmare world filter.
>>59617713Do you run this weapon mounted?
>>59615542The vr headset I bought has infared cameras. Am I part of the kool kid klub?
>>59618608>Do you run this weapon mounted?no, helmet. there is a picatinny adapter, but i wouldn't recommend it for that. good spill with soft hotspot
>>59618878Hmm seems like a good option to side mount to the helm while I run an nvg
Anyone try the LASERSPEED 2LF1? Looks like something cheap and fun to put on my mp5 with one of those front sight picatinny mounts
>>59618919That because it's designed to be helmet task light. Weapon mounted lights with multiple colors sound like some niche product for hunters.>>59618945Scroll back up to >>59605354Amazon reviews for the Sniper FL3000 should give you some idea too.
>>59618998Thats a different one, this is what i was looking at.
>>59618998I needed it for a bit of a niche task
>>59619070My mistake. I saw "2L" and though of the other device. I'd like to know how those are too since I ended up buying a L7IR instead.
>>59600394Honestly what ruins nods faster is leaving alkaline batteries in them for 3 years and the acid leaking into your device . Always use lithium batteries guys .
>>59619221literally just replaced all my shit with lithium, even if I do explode.
>>59614506Okay got some pics. So this first one is what came with the pvs14 clone from that Beijing company, this one actually came with a spec sheet while the other clone did not. You have to put in that little silver thing inside the battery compartment before you put a cr123a in it, and yes it sucks because it'll rattle without a battery in it and you don't wanna store it elsewhere or you might lose it. This one cost me $1997 ($1884 if you have tax exemption) in total since they didn't charge me for shipping and it took them about 3 days to assemble it and 5 more days to get to me.
>>59605354>>59605363>>59605385That's literally Laserspeed's first laser that wasnt a simple pointer, hell they weren't even named laserspeed when that was developed - they've been available for re-brand import for 10+ years from the likes of Newcon Optik and others which is probably why they are still produced
>>59619305Here's the clone from that MH company. Not pictured is the case it came with but it's the exact same case as the other one. This one cost me $2050. Would have been $1790 without shipping/tax. They shipped it out in a day and took 5 days to get to me.
It upsets me that you guys are so willing to support the chinks.I've been fervently searching for reputable American/German/Japanese tool brands (fuck Snap-On) to try and go full American with my shit going forward.Why aren't you willing to spend more to get a reputable product from an American or European manufacturer in order to not support business practices responsible for the plague that is "planned obsolescence" and every electronic being a piece of shit?Sure, manufacturers are aware that they have a cornered niche market with products like the MAWL and DBAL, and they're priced accordingly, but I'd rather be jewed by Americans than scammed by chinks
>>59619347>It upsets mewho cares
>>59619347Find me someone making a full power laser for less than a thousand dollars that's equal weight or lighter and I'll gladly support them.
>>59619305>>59619332Now I tried putting my camera right behind both devices and taking pics but my shitty camera keeps applying some weird ass filter and I have no idea how to turn it off but pic related is not how it looks like irl. It's not green at all irl and is clearer than this. This one is with the MH clone with all the lights closed
>>59619347I literally don't care. If they sold their products at reasonable prices they would get support, I'm not paying 4k for a gimped laser because the jews at the FDA and the R&D military industrial complex says a 800 dollar laser should cost 4 grand. Suck my fucking cock anime poster.
China nvg company responded. Pvs14 white phosphor is what I'm after. I'll l post best price I get and post the contact info once I know more.
>>59619368I know this isn't a full representation but damn that's shit... you could have spent like 800 more bucks and got a Gen 3 Elbit tube legitimate PVS14.
>>59619368Here's the Beijing one for comparison, but again, the camera is applying this weird ass greenish/yellowish filter to it. Irl it's blueish white. >>59619398I know, but I can't own an American gen 3 device lmao.
>>59619368>>59619411>Go from nightmare vision to piss vision
>>59619411you can't get Photonis PVS14? even cheaper than the Elbit. They're very good for the price too. Pretty much on par with the Elbit except in deep forestry, if you have decent ambient light they're good.
>>59619368>>59619411Here's a better picture from the video they sent me of the clone I got. Don't wanna post the video because they say my name and shit in it lmao.
>>59619457You can mute the video perhaps.
>>59619428Yeah... as soon as I get the camera focused/steady it changes the color from blueish white to fucking piss, pretty infuriating.
>>59619347For my personal gear I do only buy US or any western allied country products, but I do not expect everyone to have the same perspective on this and I rather see more people get into NVG than not.
>>59619368>>59619411>>59619457Pretty impressive stuff for chinkshit. Seems like they are coming along. Would love more pics if possible.
>>59619368>>59619411Maybe try the camera app: open camera, in the play store or f-droid app, https://opencamera.org.uk/It should give you way more control of your camera and remove all that filter stuff the stock camera app does.
>>59613425>>59613501>>59614016>>59619305>>59619332Thank you for delivering. There hasn't been a whole lot of comprehensive, centralized info on Chinese NV and the companies that sell them on Alibaba.>>59619347American/European devices are either too expensive while still being cuck power or a terrible value for the affordable models. The only Chinese company that has acted like a scammer so far has been Invisible Sight. Holosun, Laserspeed, and Somogear have shown decent customer service. There probably are people who were shitting on Holosun for being Chiense before but, now own one. Those same people probably don't go out of the way to avoid good made in China or using Chinese materials for everything else in their life.
>>59619070I got one in a few weeks ago, and I also have a LS-L7-IRThe 2LF1 is lasersneeds most sensible pistol laser...It's a decent device but it is definitely suited to a larger pistol or PCC/SBR - zeroing it is going to be a hassle - the IR laser is below the light itself, the red laser is off to the left side and they o do not coalignIt doesn't inspire confidence because the laser diode housings are (thick) polymer - I wouldn't want to mount it on a side rail on a PCC/Carbine as the red laser will be bashing into anything and everything, so realistically a top or really bottom mount is the only way to go, The mode selector has decent clicks between modes but the lever is polymer, feels cheap, and is in a great location to get broken as it overhangs the bottom of the unit - the IR laser housing. The on/off/momentary switch is fine and operates just like a streamlight pistol light.The biggest gyp for me the white light LED is directly attached to the board. The front of the board is partially potted, circular, and the rest of the unit is filled with an epoxy for shock absorbence. I am assuming the back of the board is entirely potted as I see no connections for the 2 lasers. The board is pretty rigidly mounted in there so I dare not go further.It being attached to the board fucks you out of changing out the LED for an IR one.The good?>Price>the light is decent enough>The IR laser is more powerful than C1 but it's neither as clean nor as powerful as a L7 or a FL5, that being said it's perfect in its role as a pistol/PCC laser>The shifty feeling bottom mounted polymer mode selector is actually in a perfect location to toggle with your middle finger, while just like a streamlight et al your firing finger/support thumb is there for on/off/momentary.>The unit is shorter front to back than it looks but this is decieving - on my FS 1911 rail gun the light will not extend past the bushing but it fucking mogs the gun in every other dimension
>>59619221alternatively just take the batteries out of shit
>>59619617I really got to stress it though, this unit is suited to full size and larger pistols - think G17L, G34, large frame glocks w/ long slides, USP's and MK23's, bigger target pistols. I just ordered a GG&G rail for my USP because it looks like it was made for it.Oh and the giant laserspeed logo on it is fucking pissing me off
>>59619556It's a bit better but for some reason I still just end up with a yellowish color. You can see here that before I can steady the device for a pic it's glowing fucking blue. >>59619609Np, wish I could get better pics of how things look through the device though.
>>59619347If the American laser companies truly gave a shit about you they would have already lobbied the FDA to get rid of the Class 1 infringements.Steiner is the only attainable Euro brand and it's part american anyway - they have some questionable shit and some truly great shit, esp used FP units.Every other European IR laser device is unobtanium - from Thales & Rheinmettal (LLM01, LLM Mk.3, VTAL), RUAG & Brolis (LP5X). NV Units, lasers, and thermals coming out of not France/Germany from the likes of Poland/Czechia/Lithuania/Sweden/etc are going straight into rearmarment and none of them are interested in importing FP units to americans at this time. They probably will in the future (No chance of Franco-German shit tho) right up until the US state dept or the Euro tells them to cut it out.We can't have nice things because American manufacturers are content with the status quo
>>59586360Very neat night motorcycle setup.
>>59619753>We can't have nice things because American manufacturers are content with the status quoYep
>>59619753>>59622128What they're doing makes sense to me. Let's be honest here, more people are buying American lasers than holosun or laserspeed, and with these high profit margins why would they want to make things more competitive? Also they might have their hands full with military contracts anyway so the civilian market probably isn't that big of a deal for them. I mean just how many people are going to spend thousands on lasers that require nvgs in the first place?
>>59622178>how many peopleLikely not many. How many of those government contracts forbids these companies from either refusing to sell or making a civilian spinoff of the existing product?
>>59622190Let's be honest here, not a lot of countries/governments are comfortable with the idea of civilians owning lots of "military" gear. You know, in case people get uppity. It is what it is. Being able to own them at insane prices is already a good enough.
>>59622201Who gives a fuck if they're comfortable. The second amendment doesn't care about some faggot's feelings.>Being able to own them at insane prices is already a good enough.Make yourself less obvious.
>>59619347Because the American companies are scamming the fuck out of us too. There are a total of 2 fully U.S. units that are actually worth a shit in performance that don't self destruct in 500rds, MAWL and D2. Mawl is $3000+, D2 is the size of a small african child. Not to mention NGAL/Raid which are disgustingly overpriced, somehow more than the mawl. If the D-IRV was only like $1500, and Mawl like $17-1800, people would buy them more. But they are chasing Mil/LE contracts and don't give a fuck about civilians, so we do not give a fuck about them. Not to mention FDA is fucking us for no real reason as well. Eventually this shit will all be opensourced and 3d printable anyway, and the meta will be to build your own vcsel unit for like $500. Basically the LAM market is so frustrating as a civ, that people are done spending $1000 for anemic civ devices.
>>59622400I mean your guns are already semi auto only and pistol braces are illegal now, it is what it is.
>>59622528Fbi go away
>>59622600First of all, not a government agent, I'm not even american ffs. Second of all, I'm just explaining the situation.
>>59622807>I'm not even american ffs.Post nvgs or guns.
>>59618427People have been saying on here that IR filters don't really work with LEDs since LEDs have a narrower light band than incandescent, which means less "spillover" into the IR spectrum and therefore little output when visible is filtered out. Idk if any of that is true, but that's what they say.
>>59586360Where do you stand on "goon culture" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcXW0r1nj9w
>>59617664You can be stealthy by burning out the enemies retinas before they know whats happening and remain eternally unseen
>>59623268Its not an ir filter. It's a red filter on an inforce ir light. So you have white light with the red filter off , using the red filter with the white light gets you red light, then when you want ir light flip the cap off again.
>>59623671Personally I find it cringe. Cool toys are fun to use, and seeing at night is exhilarating for me (and I'm sure many others) because it feels like you're getting away with something you shouldn't be able to do. It's a similar sensation to flying for me. I like sharing positive experiences with people. That's why I like showing friends NV, most people who would never use it otherwise say>whoa, that's pretty cool!That's really all there should be to it. >interesting, fun tools and activitiesIf anyone wants to make it more than that they're doing it wrong.
>>59619347It's always tool and car niggas who think automatically that Chinese = bad product and I say this as a mechanic myself. China produces many good products and Holosun is a testament to that. I have no problem spending money on their products over some MIC company that sells primarily to feds and glowies as their main customers. Plus what everyone else already said about the FDA and full power performance. An well armed and prepared citizenry as the second amendment imagines is way more important than adhering to made in USA.
>>59623671Same as anything else in this space, its a trend. It used to be buy an LE6920 and an acog, that's all you need. Now you need duals, 0.6oz IV plates, an SR-15 and SR-25, nightforce scopes with aimpoints on top, suppressors, micro rigs and $500 limited availability pants. Good news is people seem to be tiring of this trend (remember big igloo stuff?) and we will all move on to something else in a year or two, probably to self sustainment judging by world affairs.
>>59622400>>59623142>>59622600Seems like you're overreacting a bit, anon. Anon didn't say he approved or condoned of the reality of American built laser products, he was just describing how life is right now. And he's not wrong.
>>59615286Why is your pvs14 backwards.
>>59624090I've been posting it as bait for like a year now and you're the first person to point it out, gratz.
>>59623671>getting more people into night vision, "military" style guns and gear, forming groups and communities, going innawoods, etcBased>hypebeast instagram goon operator culture, dropshipped FOG merch, overpriced T shirts with stolen art and a cartoon quad tube slapped over the top, dudes arguing over "the meta" like having a 11" versus 12.5" barrel will get you killed in da bloogloo or whatever the fuck, OG GWOT traplord bullshit, 4 hour CQB footwork videos, retards with $25k in gear but no water filters, no emergency food storage, and no friendsFaggiest shit imaginable.
>>59624156How do you like the NVB-58? I just ordered one. I've really like the panobridge mk3
>>59624195I've tried them both, NVB-58 feels better to me, easier to setup and just leave. That said, I'm swapping into a Katana housing, because the weight with dual 14s is pretty rough after a short period of continuous use,
>>59623671It's probably not much worse than whatever culture the average Brapfags video viewer/poster subscribes to.
>>59624043There is an art to reading between the lines.
>>59624267have you considered getting lighter housings like tanto or alexi and swapping the tubes and glass over
>>59622600The format is:>[rhyming statement] [agency name]So go with "not today, CIA" or "nice try, FBI"You'll do better next time, anon.
i want to make my own laser and/or illuminator, where do i find VCSEL diodes for sale at a reasonable price?everything i'm finding is like 0.1 to 1mw for a decent price, but it jumps from that to like 10-20W and skips the 5-100mw sweet spotanyone?
>>59623671I have difficulty finding anyone that wants to do shit. t. anon asking about ANF last couple threads. It's 5-6 hours drive as well. No idea how far trex arms has to go to reach their range or hop/brassfags has to go to shoot in the desert. Standard range drive for me is about an hour.
>>59625105i drive about 15 min to do night shooting and night driving in the desert, it's quite nice being able to do that
>>59625078what about one for the ATF?
>>59625118I'm am envious of you.
Looking for a pouch for my handheld. Something to wear either on my belt rig or chest rig, is there a go to pouch you guys use or is everyone running random ones?
>>59625105Do you have a .22 rifle with a suppressor and subsonics? May not have to drive as far as you thought :^)
>>59625171I don't usually use a pouch since I'm using a helmet mounted but I do keep a shock cord lanyard wrapped around the body and you could wrap maybe some paracord or shock cord into a lanyard and wear it around your neck, just an idea. If my thermal is out I'm using it, otherwise it goes back in the Pelican case, I'm not keeping an expensive device in a pouch...
>>59623671I wish this guy would leave the internet
>>59625214Shut up lucas.
>>59625201I have been playing around with the best way to use it when hiking/camping/larping. I have some cobbled together GoPro accessories that let me somewhat passably wear it clipped to a baseball cap but it's not super sturdy. Around my neck could work but it's not ideal.
>>59625067I prefer to stay U.S. components for something so expensive, so Alexis are out. Tantos I considered but decided to just go with the Katana to join them into 1 unit with one power supply, cut down on jank.
>>59625372yeah but then you cannot panpanning is epic
>>59625884Yeah its a trade off but oh well not much you can do about it.
holy fuck that was fast. I bought a FL5 from alibaba for a total of $790 and it got shipped to me in 3 days. For some reason they use DHL express shipping if you buy it from alibaba instead of ebay. The turret switch feels good and they sent me their new pressure switch too.
>>59625909yeah you can buy 2 tantos and pani'm not going back after going gang pan, it's too useful for driving and hiking around
>>59625278I would look for a good quality camera lens pouch. They're about the right size and they're designed to protect very delicate and expensive equipment.
>>59626006Hmm that TAB nocturn sells now is pretty cool looking, gets rid of a lot of my problems I had with other bridges. Didn't know it existed last time I did research on NV stuff. Think its worth having them convert my tubes into that instead?
>>59626391Nice looking paint job
>>59626396Thanks, wish I had a darker green at the time, but I like it still.
>>59622406There are so many ways a cheap, IR only laser and illuminator, could be made.>If the SMSlaser had surefire threads for the light head.>Make a MAWL at home with a similar offset body and fire buttons on the top of the rail mount. With a .4mw IR pointer and 100mw vcsel.>A CTF 2 with a single point to mount a surefire compatible head.>A rail mounted, one piece light body with surefire threads and a tumor of an IR laser somewhere it won't reflect or catch a light head.>Any of the sub $50 dollar Amazon lasers with an added switch port.The only Western company that is at least offering something worth the price is Streamlight. And from other anon's experience, you need the focusing lense to make the most out of the TLR.
do I have to basically disassemble the whole device if I just want to replace a pvs14's objective lens?
>>59625098CD/DVD burners are a good place to look
>>59586360The TLR VIR II EFL is in stock: https://gooningear.com/collections/laser-aiming-devices/products/tlr-vir-ii-eflWho ever is gonna create the next thread use this cover >>59599183
>>59586360new bread >>59628724>>59586360new bread >>59628724>>59586360new bread >>59628724
