In what situation is this ever practical
I'd imagine it's easier to conceal than a longer barrel.
Suppressed machine pistols are the perfect CC and HD weapon. Shot placement is nothing more than a cope for them being effectively illegal.
>>59573324Then just carry a pistol
Saving the chief
>>59573330You'd kill the target and 6 other bystanders
>>59573338Isn't that an uzi
>>59573340They should learn not to stand-by behind the shithead breaking into my house.
>>59573311sometimes round 3 if you're down 0-2 cause subs are weird in cs2
>>59573311I miss cs_crackhouse
>>59573340If there are 6 bystanders in my living room, theyre accomplices and were getting shot anywayIf there are 6 bystanders in the street while im getting mugged, theyre accomplices and were getting shot anyway
>>59573332It has a wire stock and is automatic, imagine it like a vz.61
>>59573371>>59573358It would fly out of your hand and kill your loved ones
>>59573367Fuckin classic map. In my top 3 with fy_stoneworld and cs_Krustykrab
>>59573395It was sold with a can, and thats what Id be gripping
>>59573311PDW for a vehicle crew in a dirt poor country that can't afford good equipment and needs to save pesos everywhere it can.The MAC is very compact and very affordable. It is a lot more firepower than a handgun and can potentially throw down enough suppressive fire for a crewman to escape a disabled vehicle, regroup and get back into the fight in another one later. As long as it can do that, it would have done it's job.As designed, the MAC-10 is really more of a part of a system consisting of the SMG itself and an accompanying suppressor. In that setup it's an entirely different weapon, capable of being used to infiltrate an enemy position with a relatively compact, quiet, yet reasonably powerful weapon. It is not capable of great accuracy, but it can hose down an enemy sentry or patrol at short range without alerting everyone for miles around. The operator using it wouldn't really be looking for a fight, but would at least be able to engage in one if they had to without having to announce their presence.Think of it as an improved STEN MKII(S).
>>59573395As long as it doesn't hit my cat I could not care less
>>59573311Drive by shootings. Come on, man, haven't you ever played San Andreas?
>>59573395Just hold it by the suppressor bro
>>59573470can't even find the original map anymorehttps://youtu.be/vUsv4Lb7EQs
>>59573338That’s an uzi retard
>>59573501I just watched Garandfaggot shoot a .380 with a buffer and suppressor, shit was shooting like 1400 rpm and the .380 recoil meant the whole magazine landed in a dinner plate sized group like imagine getting shot 23 times or some shit in literally 1.2 seconds, not that many guns can do that lmao
>>59573311Killing an elevator full of surprised Colonels. *ding* (doors open)(BRRRRT INTENSIFIES) It's perfect in that role, otherwise it's just fun for mag dumps.
>>59573311FOR ALL LEGAL PURPOSESAM I BEING DETAINED?!
>>59573311SMGs do fine against unarmored targets at CQC ranges what are you asking exactly? the uzi is supposedly more reliable than the MAC 10… or you could get an SBR…
>>59573340>what is burst fire? what is select fire?
>>59573586Even though the Uzi was actually based on pic related, it was better in almost every way than any of the MAC family. The extra receiver space at the rear keeps the cyclic rate very reasonable (in the original full size model). Having said that, according to David Gaboury in The Uzi Submachine Gun Examined, the mini-Uzi was directly inspired by the MAC 10. The Israeli counter terrorist teams purchased original Powder Springs MACs and felt the higher ROF was beneficial in tight spaces such as commercial jetliners. IMI offered the mini-Uzi in response. Sorry to ramble. Open bolt sub guns activities my almonds.
>>59573311>>59573330based and correct opinion.This is the ultimate fuck off gun. You effectively become a porcupine, immune to being touched by assailants at a close range, with each spine as a potentially lethal and unpredictable bullet. No one with any sanity will do anything but retreat once encountered with this.
>>59573726Isn't the Uzi ripping off from the CZ 23/25?
>>59573311Air Force One was just shot down over Manhattan and you're being sent in to extract the President
>>59573311Killing unarmed civilians in a room. I mean, that's what it was made for.
>>59573330Sabot versions even pen better than 7.62x51mm.
>>59573311when you need to put a shitton of holes into a fucker quickly
>>59573766so whatnobody but autistic faggots careyou're not an autistic faggot are you?
>>59573311Literally seems like the perfect home defense weapon, especially with the suppressor.>cartridge is subsonic>cartridge is also unlikely to over penetrate>two world warsit's perfecto
>>59573766In my opinion, the answer is no. It appears that they borrowed the critical design details from the ZK-476.
>>59573340>>59573395I shot one when I was 11 and landed most of a mag on a empty propane tank, they're really not that hard to control
>>59573347>>59573574Literally the same thing
>>59573311It's practical for turning people into swiss cheese at room distances.
>>59573311>In what situation is this ever practicalFor when your coke deal with ninjas goes sideways.Bro. It's like you're not even "Against the Ninja."
>>59573340so long as they weren't Jewish, the designer of that gun couldn't have cared less.
>>59577715FRIENDS FOREVER THROUGH THICK AND THIIIIIN
>>59574314President of what?
>>59573311>practicalwhat are you saying?
>>59573311It is unsurpassed if you have to fight inside a phone booth.
>same dinnerplate at 15 yards but half the weight
>>59573311They're great for spraying an entire 'clip' at a perceived injustice from a fellow melinated gentleman of high esteem, miss with every round and instead splash the dormitory and hospital behind him. >t. seen it
>>59573311Dem niggas from da East Side been disrespecting you and your crew, and you ain't no punk ass bitch, homie.
>>59577924My neurons have ACTIVATED
>>59573311Modern day horse pistol.>compact enough to hidden in a car seat while driving up to the hit>full auto fire since you need to dump lots rounds in a car quick before running away>small enough to toss or hide for later retrieval>the size and weight wouldn’t really be a factor since you are probably using it in a car or only carrying it when you want so serious damageThat is how I see them being used in those Latin American hit videos The fact that machine pistol are so sought after by criminal all over the world prove their use caseNot just because they are cool but also because they are very good weapons to use in urban clandestine style environment.
>>59573311I can imagine a boomer og crip telling Tyrone that his Glock with a switch is a damm gammickBack in my day we did drive by with our trusty mac 10 But for real they are already obsolete Even the compton crips are starting to slowly transition away from there use
>>59573311With Johnny Rowland's pissing hot .45ACP on steroids.
>>59573698i remember that tale from the just-so stories
>>59573311When you want to spray pistol rounds full auto. They don't really make machine pistols anymore for a reason. A favorite of niggers (Glock switches) because it's impossible to accurately hit shit. Even the submachine gun is phased out but with those at least you could lay accurate fire. It's just been determined that if you have a gun that size you might as well be firing rifle rounds. At the size and practicality level of a Mac10 or Uzi, you might as well just have a handgun. You're more likely to get vital hits magdumping than spraying in full auto.
>>59578774you are retarded
>>59573340Based and Chicago Pilled.
>>59577377I'm just here to call you a retard again
>>59573311>In what situation is this ever practicalThey're fun.Even the semi version is fun.>But Don, they're not accurate.Fuck you! I only need one shot to hit, and I'm firing 30 of them in the next second.>But that's excessive!Quit being a pussy! /LGTB/ >> is that way, you fucking faggot!I want to put 30 rounds in a 12 inch circle on his torso, reload before he hits the floor and see if I can make him a zipper head as he drops!I want him to have a closed-casket funeral because his meth whore mother could'nt recognize him!I want the three "innocent" bystanders to forever carry the scars of the night they got what they fucking deserved, because there is no innocence, only degrees of guilt!I want the whole world to understand that the MAC 10, MAC 11, and MAC 11/9 are works of art that should be required for home ownership!>What'll the D.A think?!If he's smart he'll think it's awfully tragic that a mutilated body was found wrapped in a shower curtain in the local river.>Are you okay?Relatively.
>>59578930I'm repulsed by how tepid your post is.
>>59573311Clearing out mutant cannibals in the sewers
>>59573330fpbpwe're all just copeing because our government hates us and hate our rights.
>>59573311for when you only have 14 thousand dollars but want a legal machine gun post 1986
>>59579003I'm more saddened that nogunz like you infest this place
>>59573311When you need to film an action movie.
>>59573340You can get another wife and more children, no big deal.
>>59573311Concealable and able to hose down a hallway or room real quick. Put lots of lead out very fast and get people dead, down, or running for cover. It's also stupidly cheap to make and based on Garand Thumb's video can be made to fire stupidly quick. For the average joe it'd be a fun way to waste $25-$50.
>>59579940Good taste, all the weapons in Ashes felt great. Even the glock, which I usually hate on aesthetic level.
I hate that pdws are fucked in the us. They're my favorite category of weapons and probably the most relevant for most people anyway, but we get fucked because of imaginary rules involving barrel length bullshit.
>>59573311for trying to enact gun control as trojan horse media object in the 1980's
>>59573766The sig 500 is rippinf off the AK, which is ripping off the garand, which is ripping off the rsc1917/1918. Most human inventions are iterative advances built off the inventions of others
>>59573311In what situation is it practical? NoneIn what situation is it fun? All of them
>>59573311These guns are actually designed for mag dumping from five feet away. But they can't market them as "certain death assassination tool!" so it's a... tanker's sidearm I guess?
>>59573338He's not asking why submachine guns are a thing, he's asking why shit that can't hit a cow from ten paces but has a fire rate of eight bajillion rounds a second ghetto blasters are a thing.
>>59573395based 1980s action flick enjoyer
>>59573311When you want to have fun
>>59573338based Captain Mustache
SMGs are for close quarters.This is a common improvised SMG in the Middle East called the Carl Gustav.It is like the improvised SMGs used in many wars, including in WWII.
>>59582032Are you sure that isn't just an RAS ak?
>>59577806FRIENDS FOREVER WE'LL BE TOGETHERWE'RE ON TOP CAUSE WE PLAY T WIN
>>59582041Nah it is based on the Carl Gustaf m/45 from Sweden. Like a sten gun or grease gun.
>>59577715mfin Miami Connection
>>59573330Yeah this is true. I get annoyed every time I see some faggot retard say "Erm full auto is actually useless!" In reality everyone in a CQC environment is using full auto unless they're hostage rescue or some shit. If you see movement, fucking hose it and take no chances.
>>59582057It is not hard to get a full auto weapon, or use a hard reset trigger or something like that. Including suppressors and optics.
>>59582081If you use a FRT in a self defense situation get ready for the book to be thrown at you and your house turned upside down by the ATF. Hope you have a million bucks to fight the multi year case by yourself on whether it's considered a machine gun or not
>>59573340Excellent. 7 possible targets makes it harder to narrow down my primary target and motive.
>>59573311More firepower than a regular pistol but only slightly less concealable. Much more maneuverable than a typical sub machine gun or short barreled rifle in tight spaces as well.Also drive bys
>>59573311I suggest you see the documentary film "Three Days of the Condor" for the proper use of the MAC-10.
>>59573311>>59582332 againThis might be it, can't see it on this computer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wycSvGq-R1o
>>59573340And? If American police don't care about "innocent" bystanders, why should I?https://youtu.be/WOOT7TTIaXw
>>59577903Geriatric boomer morbidly obese fat fuck from AR15.com, you have to go back
>>59573340I don't get the joke
>>59582392brown hands typed this
>>59582639Regardless, you still need to use a stick to wipe your ass.
>>59582651you're still brown
>>59582639why is the shitskin so mad ? do pajeets get regularly raped in phone booths ?
>>59582392Most random sperg out I've seen recently
>>59573311To this day I still have no idea how you're supposed to use that folding stock.
>>59582689>>59582679streetshiters are generally stupid as fuck
>>59573311Try this situation....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCt5gnZ9HBg
i just want to make bare doughleave me aloneplease dont holla my phone>>59573311probably a situation where you need to fucking shoot someone with a gun retard?
Dad used to have one over the steel beam in the garage, told us that it was "rare" nail gun from the 80sTook me 10 years and Miami Vice to figure out it was a MAC.
>>59573311In being cool badass situation :)
>>59583384Also, Snake Plissken's mac 10 has inspired me to model this picrel
when you lose first round to CT but want to rush B, it is a quite good and economical option
>>59573340Just buy a tungsten bolt bro
>>59573311Quick suppression fire in the streets/indoor ?That thing basically has no range or accuracy, it's like painting Mona Lisa with a spraycan.
>>59583661thank you for your noguns opinion
>>59574314This.>stitches-up drywall with his silhouette.
>>59583661The recoil would be violent and jumpy on account of the large moving bolt mass, but its a fixed 6" barrel, so as long as you can hold it steady theres no particular reason it should be notably less accurate or shorter ranged than any pistol. Its a skill issue.
>>59573395It’s not a Sig. It doesn’t fire after it’s dropped
>>59573311In case you need to escape from NY
with a side charging upper, stock and a red dot, is quite practical
>>59583413that's awesome, do you have a portfolio or youtube for this sort of stuff?
>>59573311When you want to see a grown man giggle like a schoolgirl
>>59573311Looters attack in packs.
black teenagers are able to get a submoa bead on target and hit opposing gang members as collateral and you're a grown fucking man who can't even hit a steel plate without killing yoursel lmaoing goddamn
>>59573311HELL YEA BITCH I JUST WATCHED THE JEWTHUMB VIDEO TOO MACHEVELLI TENS ARE SO FUCKING AWESOME I LOVE THE FUCKING LEVIATHAN GROUP HOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>59573311The Cleaners are trying to eliminate anyone who knows about the Inner Circle and you want to look sick as fuck.
>>59587668Calm down spergo, geeze.
>>59573311EAT SHEEEIT NYUGUUUUUHHHHHHHH>BRRRRRRRRRRRRT
>>59587138>Lage mfg. enhancement kitThat puts it at the same level as an UZI. We're talking about the original ghetto bullet hose here
>>59588283Which is even more giggle-inducing.
>>59573311>need to conceal like pistol>want dakka
>>59573338He doesn't look very saved.
>>59587138>he's using the best sight
>>59577715man its WILD having your hand like in line with the muzzle on some flappy little strap
>>59587668no arrow + calm down + take your meds
>>59577377The mac has like twice the rate of fire, is made to be used suppressed, and isn't made by the tribeThink about these sort of things before typing any more dumb shit like that
>>59573395ya if you were a limp wrist fag
>>59573311in open xcom xfiles mod they are the perfect side arm. small enough to pit in a holster and are very likely to take down the intended target in close range.
Drive bys obviously, although this role has since been taken over my giggle switched glocks.
>>59573340no id kill 7 targets
>>59582699The L shaped part folds 90 degrees, top in image is the part that is shouldered. Then you pull it back to extend it and hope you don't just accidentally pull the whole thing off the gun.
>>59587138Holy shit, guys. Look at his arms flailing wildly, unable to control the behemoth recoil of these unstoppable manslaughter machines.
>>59578831godamn I wish these were automatic.
>>59583384>>59583413>>59583420I wonder how mounting a scope like that would work IRL. A suppressor is certainly a solidly attached component but I wonder if the heat would break the scope or render it unusable
>>59583651What would a tungsten bolt do?
>>59573311They're fun. Had an opportunity to shoot FA this weekend, actually.
>>59594683Really wanted to clear the dueling tree with one burst. But I failed.
>>59577924GOD I want one of these so bad
>>59584825I do have a portfolio, but it is not updated and I am just a beginner at 3D thingy.https://www.artstation.com/kevinottokoit
>>59593793Someone needs to try this.
>>59592022the button is spring loaded, you'd have to press twice or yank the stock at light speed
>>59595570Mr. Thumb did give it a pretty good tug.
>>59583413Add some beveling all around anon
>>59573311when you're expecting to parachute in and out of anywhere from Ovamboland to Nicaragua it makes a great backup for an M16
>>59594087slow it down to a controllable level.
>>59573311I just bought one of these this morning. $800 with a discount code. Did i waste my money? Shipping better hurry the fuck up.
>>59597347I like mine buying mags for it sucks but besides that they're great
>>59597355Thanks for the input bro. Yeah mags seem expensive as fuck. Does any "mp5" style mag work? Like an SP5 mag?
>>59573311once you've played with one, practical isn't really the concern. it's mostly keeping it fed. it'll spit more lead than a shotgun, and mine's accurate. but at 1700 rpm, the ammo is always gone.
>>59597347>century armswould rather spend a bit more and get a PTR
>>59582142>what is police response timeyou should definitely be able to swap a trigger group in the half hour it will take for dead body disposal to show up.
>>59573311Hollywood killing machine, coke smuggler, drug lord.
>>59573311when you're out somewhere shuckin' n' jivin'
>>59581427I dont understand why so many people have a hard time with this concept.Its very hard to be completely, entirely original.At some point, to make something, you will need to use fire, which has already been done before, so you're just ripping off cavemen.
>>59573311You give them to the bad guys on motorbikes who are chasing the hero
>Slow is smooth>Smooth is fast
>>59577924Christ its even more perfect in real life
>>59583413im making mac 11/9 rn
>>59593793how would you even attach a rail to a suppressor without one
>>59597496By that logic why use a shitty frt when you can make or print a DIAS and just chuck it in seconds?
>>59577924Buddy this is a blue board
>>59578930Based and Ok-pilled.
>>59573311When some chazzer keeps hitting on the boss's wife so you have to shoot up his nightclub
>>59598701Kraft or homemade?
>>59573726Hello fellow open bolt autist, life under the NFA is pain.
Running cocaine into Miami
>>59573311a daily stroll through chiraq
>>59598715>attach a railyou use hoseclamps, dummygosh, didn't they teach you these things in school, or were you just not paying attention?
>>59573311>In what situation is this ever practicalYou got 2 duffel bags full of yayo in a hotel and you're waiting on 2 niggers who are supposed be bringing you a bunch of cash and picking up the yayo. You got 1 homie in the bathroom hiding behind the shower curtain holding a double barrel sawed off 12g. And your bitch sitting on the bed holding one of these under a pillow. What else do you hide under a pillow that you can rip out real quick and spray down those niggers incase they bust in and try to run you?
>>59574314Hell no, that's 100% mp5.No way u get a cheap spray gun for that task.
>>59601961shut upa u face
>>59574953shut da fuuuuck up ok
>>59582639^ This poster is sub-replacement ^
>>59573395post bussy fag
>>59573311Drive-bys!Rushing B!also >>59573330 and >>59573338
>>59578930Based beyond belief>>59579003fuck off rajnesh
>>59601961Refrain from posting in mac10 threads if you haven't seen Escape From New York, newfag
For when you’re getting robbed in a phone booth
>>59610344Use both of your hands instead of one side ways while jumping up and down
>>59573311Its about as practical as a full auto glock, maybe even less so.i guess if you plan on killing someone up close and make sure they are absolutely dead it would be useful.cant imagine something gettting 25-50 rounds of .380 - .45 at 1200 rpm would survive very long
>>59573726>felt the higher ROF was beneficial in tight spaces such as commercial jetlinersif you’re gonna be blasting an uzi down the aisle of a commercial jetliner you might as well just use a grenade at that point
>>59598719now you're getting it
>>59599818goyslop american cheese 9/11
I mean if you get a decent stock, and your muzzle control is insane, you could use it for room clearing kinda like a budget mp9
>>59574314He had the best '80's hair!
>>59583384>call me snake>call me plissken
>>59616970AND... the best '90's! How can you compete?
>>59616986You can't, it's over.
>>59597449Well century doesn't touch these. They just import. Granted they are built buy turks on HK tooling...
>>59617635death to turkshit
>>59573330>riddle your home with bullet holes to pwn the libs
If Kowloon walled city still existed and I lived inside it>establishing immediate fire superiority through absolute highest cyclic rof mechanically possible>in a confined space
>>59619245Big talk little man. What are you going to DO about it? Nothing. What a boisterous loser.
>>59583136>Nobody knowed nothing, cuz I was shooting with a silencerReddit nerds btfo
>>59597347>MYou will never be a suppressor host