How badly could they maul the US Navy?
>>58335344Based on the current information, by smacking an F-35 into the bridge/superstructure of an American carrier during a joint exercise.
They could clear the North Atlantic of US ships in a fortnight. Tea and medals for everyone!
>>58335344Why are there so many falseflagging threads with the aim of driving a wedge between the RN and USN today?RN is much smaller. We don't have much of an empire and have a smaller economy and fewer resources. The RN couldn't do much to the USN but that doesn't matter because we are allies and we at least try to pull our weight at sea, unlike most that have become content to freeload off the security that USN has brought to global shipping.
>>58335407British subjects don't have opinions.
>>58335407Because warriortard bragged about a successful ban appeal then got his threads deleted.
>>58335407Russian mentality (yes, it's always them) leads them to believe that there is as much infighting and backstabbing in the west as there is in the east/Russia itself, so they think they can put allies against one another via shitposting and poorly done falseflags (like the pipeline being destroyed) because they managed to whip up a few retarded conservatives and leftists online into turning traitor. There has been a unusual uptick in slide threads lately, something else must've gone terribly wrong in Russia again.
>>58335445so much this. Glad other people see it.
>>58335344The USN wins any fight, but it wouldn't come out clean. Astute subs would be the biggest threat to any USN taskforce. If the defence budget was to increase to 4% to 5% then maybe the RN could put up a formidable defence but it would still lose. We're allies at the end of the day so the only ones that would benefit from this hypothetical is our adversaries that would use the opportunity to harass and control shipping lanes, and weaken our geopolitical position. I don't see any scenarios where USN and RN personnel would be happy shooting at each other, which would impact fighting effectiveness for both sides in any hypothetical.
>>58335445The Belgorod raids were last week, the ship getting hit with a drone was two days ago, as was the Defense Ministry fire; are either of those fresh enough, or are we seeing an entirely new fuckup?
>>58335344British weapons exports falling after the Ukraine war. People just aren’t impressed
>>58339302You mean countries don’t want to buy saclos manpads. Wow what an absolute shock
>>58335419STFU you nignog or ill colonise you again
>>58339302UKs fault. They sent mostly other countries weapons. The Swedish NLAW, French Apache, American MLRS, and American javelins. None of the British equipment sent has performed particularly well and its showing up in the export numbers
>>58335407ThisFor the economy the bongs have they're punching above their weight
>>58335344There have been an unusually high number of intentionally antagonistic bong related threads recently. But whither the salt?
>>58339508Just Warriortard the NEET poorfag onlyfans whore
Why would the US fight its best frens?>t. mutt bound in blood to his Brit brothers
>>58339286I think something people overlook about the USN carrier groups is what an advantage they'll have due to nuclear power. They can speed up and run round the ocean just as fast as the submarine can for just as long. If the sub tries to chase or position into somewhere it can engage then it'll need to go fast itself; which will make it much noisier and much more easy to shoot. SSKs have no chance either unless you've a chokepoint to defend. I honestly think the US just has the raw tonnage to zoom CVNs up and down the Atlantic away from any satellite hit of a possible SSN, with a screen ready to pounce on anything breaking cover to intercept them.
>>58339389I'm surprised you can make those hollow threats considering that the police might arrest you for wrong think. Colonization is very very racist, anon.
As of 2021 there were 6,500 royal marines including reserves As of 2022 there are around 200,000 US marines including reserves
>>58335445Hitler read a news story about Texas and Louisiana fighting a court case over some disputed loop in a river and concluded that the US was close to civil war
>>58339529>Why would I not have eaten breakfast this morning, it's delicious!
>>58335407Warriortard is seething because his was gloating about getting his bans overturned and then he got permabanned. But he's got a million VPNs sowhatever,
>>58339774Is Britain the delicious breakfast in this analogy?
>>58339857Permabans are a matter of public record. Could you point us to the post that got him permabanned. I wont belive you until you post it
The US and France.France is sloted to see a massive increase in sales to every east european country that's not Poland.Everyone has sent all their tanks, helicopters, APCs, SPGs, etc... to the ukrainian scrapyard, someone has to step up to replace them and inside the EU germans makes the tanks, the french make everything else.The US has almost managed their coup de grace to the EU aviation replacing everything that flies. France remains at capacity to make both planes and helicopters without US conglomerate involved thanks to contracts outside the EU but except some helicopters here and there and possibly more Rafales the EU isn't their main market.Also notable french-italian (Italy equip everything that floats) frigates for the US...UK well UK left the EU, gifted India to France during the Kargil War, gifted their dominions to the US and even themselves are more and more dependant of Uncle Sam (F-35 for the Navy, etc...).You make your bed, you lie in it.
>>58339585Nuclear carriers do have their advantages but ultimately the life blood of a Carrier Strike Group is it's logistics, if an enemy nuclear sub can harass a CSGs auxiliary fleet that can severely hamper carrier operations. Again I don't think the RN could hold out against the USN but the RN could give the USN a bloody nose.
>>58339322>>58339302>>58339412>>58339522Kill yourself armatard
>>58335344doesn't matter, would never happen UK is Best FriendYou see western nations actually have real friendships, not the shit that you would call any sort of relation with the chinks
>>58339870>himwho exactly do you think you're fooling
>>58340276That doesn’t change the facts that were brought up.
>>58340357Just show us the permaban that you’re talking about. It’s publicly available information
>>58339286There are exactly two nations with capable modern nuclear subs, both of their names start with "united" and both hate chinkland right now. That's really all the world needs to know.
>>58340425I would hardly say that the UAE hates China
>>58340410Not him but I believe him. Fuck warriortard, simple as
>>58340425Imagine thinking nuclear subs are superior in every aspect to modern diesel-electric subs with AIP> no massive heat signature> more silent due to lack of perpetually running cooling pumps
>>58340550You forgot>no tracking with radiation detectors
>>58340550Those picture only happen in deliberately engineered exercises where a battlegroup is forced into an SSK's interception range, or during peacetime running when the battlegroup is transiting from A to B in a straight line in a relaxed posture. In a wartime posture the US would see the SSK leave port and put an expanding max range circle on the map and just avoid it, whilst filling the space in between with MPAs. If the ssk tried to catch up then RIP range, it'll need to snort, and it'll get destroyed. It's the same for sub on sub games; they're engineered situations which neither side would want to be in and would avoid through strategy, but still useful to train tactical skills. Just taking them at face value of x beat x in exercise is generally misunderstanding the whole exercise, same as those stories about le elite marine/paratrooper/ranger/jager squad just totally beat a whole division and made the general surrender during this exercise the other day!!! The whole point of exercises is to make those extreme situations fucking happen for a few days of the year just because you train every scenario, when every other day of the year involves just not letting it ever occur as normal business.
>>58340715In a defensive scenario, diesel subs work better than nuclear ones, except as a nuclear deterrent.Everything you said also applies to nuclear subs, however they are easier to track, so instead of an expanding max range circle (of which enough could block a coastline of an average country) you get a way smaller circle, which can be updated by tracking heat and radiation anomalies from your subs.
>>58340715>>58340835Forgot to say that they work better because they are quieter than nuclear subs as they don't need cooling pumps for a nuclear reactor, so the range at which they are picked up by passive sonar is way smaller
>>58340806I look like this, say this, wear all those pins and more, and I even have a sky jew whispering things in my ear
>>58340835Saying something works best in a defensive scenario is basically admitting defeat from the get-go, you're surrendering the initiative. It's even more important for sea control; there are a few strategic chokepoints that you could do that with, but it's just not a thing for sea control in the open ocean. A US carrier battlegroup operating in the open ocean is its ideal environment - it has the strategic high ground. It controls the sea and can strike from the sea at a range that an SSK cannot interfere with; that's just a statement of fact. The patrol radius of a carrier's assets is wide enough and its strategic mobility is high enough that the onus will consistently be on the submarine to try to chase the carrier. An SSK must snort eventually and must snort much more regularly if its running hard to get the carrier, and that is when it will be detected. An MPA is much more likely to find a submarine than a surface asset or even another submarine unless its been told where to look. An ssn is therefore better as it doesn't need to snort, so its counterdetection chances are far lower by default, but even that's moot vs a US CVN as it can just speed away
>>58340550They don't use pumps anymore anon the cooling circulation is passive. And due to two or three state cooling they don't leave a heat wake anymore, at least none you can detect form more than a hundred yards. AIP is fine for a defensive sub that only has to operate for a week or so submerged without moving. You've got a whole 30 minutes power for your drive at a blistering 20 knots, you aren't going to be dictating the engagement to the SSN.
>>58340586Also not anymore, and even in the old days it was only useful for a single sub tracking the wake of another.
>>58340425>There are exactly two nations with capable modern nuclear subs, both of their names start with "united">united states>united france
>>58341019Frances subs are tiny and underpowered, anon (LEU reactors).To bait effectively you really need to post something with a shred of truth in it.
>>58335445>Cross border raids from literal rebel forces with a stated goal of overthrowing the current regime>MOD catches fire. Again.>One of their irreplaceable (for them) frigates gets struck by a drone with confirmed footage despite their best efforts to cover it up>Zaluhzny just can't stop winning>Burning through forex reserves like a cocaine and hooker bender to keep their economy afloat>Ural crude continues to sell at $30-40/bbl lower than Brent, probably lower because the Chinese and Indians get to dictate pricing>AD keeps shooting down friendly jets>EU seriously considering just giving 190 billion in frozen Russian assets to Ukraine>Nobody takes their NOOK threats seriously anymoreTake your pick.
>>58335407There's a lot of people on this board pretending to be rabid bongs I think, it's to drive a wedge between anglosphere nations. Just don't reply.
>>58341589Nah its this one lonely incel called warriortard it's been quiet for a while. He got banned but found a way round it after being rejected by the comic book society for being too much of a neet.
>>58339857>Warriortard is seething because his was gloating about getting his bans overturnedLink please.