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I just saw this. It's like they've gone so far up their own ass with their obsession with crazy combat scenarios that they're actually worse off should the events they're worrying about actually happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRzEi154Uek

happening backdrop:
>3 days after muh financial collapse
>1 week ago, trade with your small community completely stopped, don't ask how it happened before muh financial collapse rather than after
>people are already looting, rioting, and just setting shit on fire or something, in your small community

scenario:
>your 70 year old neighbor hurt themselves poaching deer and is 5 miles away from you by road or 1 mile by foot
>you already have code words worked out because you're so paranoid about people in your small community listening in, but failed to think ahead for code words for different kinds of injuries so specifics there are inconveniently left out
>your neighbor has a challenge password because he's a schizo and is liable to shoot someone trying to help him otherwise
>you have 15 minutes to get your shit together and start heading over, or the deer's buddies will rape him or something

The prepper's response:
>he'll be going in alone
>immediately decides to walk over rather than drive, because fuck being able to load an injured 70 year old who might not be able to walk into a vehicle
>you apparently need an LPVO and suppressor for this
>grabs a chest rig with 3 mags, plus 2 more mags in a backpack
>talks about his wife needing a rifle and comms even though she's not coming along
>only brings a small IFAK and a splint for medical supplies
>you need NODs for this
>talks about needing gaitors for his boots due to how wet it is, but bringing a 70 year old who might not be able to walk somewhere to safety by dragging them across that same terrain is okay
>needs a camouflage cover for his backpack
>needs earpro hooked to his comms

I'm at a loss here as to what drives these people.
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>>58331141
>He actually watched a video he hated
Why do you do that to yourself?
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they have to justify dressing up as soldiers by larping as """one"""
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>>58331141
>I'm at a loss here as to what drives these people.

White trash craving validation. They cannot cope with ordinary life so they crave a fantasy where their imaginary skills enhance their social position.

They're simple creatures like all uneducated (and by education I do not mean American schooling) filth so they only plan for violence so they can imagine being heroes. Intelligence is abnormal and they're proof.
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>>58331141
Kind of a weird post, you framed it as a criticism of the entire mentality which would lead someone to prep for elaborate scenarios, then proceeded to only offer criticisms about the specifics of his proposed response to a scenario

>>58331176
Really interesting, post hands
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I don't really let youtube ecelebs rustle my jimmies nor your effeminate seething over ecelebs, both are just as cringe.

Youtube pays people money for watching your videos, and if you get a lot of people to click and pay attention, maybe you make some money.

So I suspect that OP might even be the guy in the video promoting his own channel on 4chan.

You watched this shit and gave him money, you are a part of the willing audience.

You are the one lending legitimacy and attention by seething over youtube videos.
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>>58331197
Because it might just be OP posting his video on /k/ then pretending to be a critic by channeling his inner insecurities. I've seen this on a ton of boards honestly, eceleb stuff all over the blue boards.
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>>58331240
>>58331176
reddit spacing up the wazoo
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>>58331169
>"dirty civilian"
>ayo you gotta problem with regular joes, friend? you some kinda fed?
The name checks out. It's a preemptive attempt to deflect the inevitable questions like 'did you serve' or 'how does this affect my life'.
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Reminder to you survivalists that you can only get antibiotics (for fish) without a prescription for a few more weeks.
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>>58331249

I have used this site since 2003 and this is called formatting.

It's also how the King James Bible is formatted online, which was my inspiration.
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>>58331286
just order human grade stuff from abroad, it's easy and ICE doesn't seize non controlled substances as a policy
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>>58331141 (OP)

Preppers are basically very stupid people who think they are smart.
They have a very childish vision of the future apocalypse, so they train skills and attitudes that they think will help them survive, but in fact will assure them an early grave.

In fact, I believe the preppers will die first. The truth is that in the event of a real catastrophe, they will be so fixated on implementing their childish plans that they will not be able to adapt. For example I don't see them leaving their homes in a situation that will require a mass evacuation. They will stay in their little stronghold, surrounded by tons of hoarded supplies. And they will die there.

>>58331176
>White trash craving validation.

You have no idea how many preppers there are Hispanics, Asians and even Blacks. No race has a monopoly on being morons.
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>>58331141
the one thing that keeps striking me when it comes to american prepers is that it's always 1 man vs the world
at least here he has a wife and kids
but is he has coms and a cyper set up with this 70 neighbor, why doesn't he ask anyone else to come help?
two friends, one to walk with you to have an extra pair of eyes, an extra rifle and above all an extra brain. The second guy can wait in his truck for the all clear to come pick you guys up.
bringing this or tat rifle load out will do next to nothing compared with having a buddy

I might just a be a no funs yourapoor but I've got plans with people from my fundy church about what to do when we feel the need to bug out.
if shit hit the proverbial fan I'll have people covering my back and I'll be covering theirs.
That I only go shooting a few times a year with guns I borrow still makes me a better wingman than dead fucking air
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>>58331197
>you framed it as a criticism of the entire mentality which would lead someone to prep for elaborate scenarios, then proceeded to only offer criticisms about the specifics of his proposed response to a scenario
You're fucking retarded if you think my criticism is just of how he would react to that specific scenario, rather than the though process as a whole that would result in that shit even crossing his mind as a good response. Not to mention his and his neighbor's paranoia actively making the scenario worse before even getting to his response.
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>>58331296

Maybe you are also a fool for overlooking the fact that people seek attention online, youtube included, to make money, and you are giving attention to these people. Even negative attention generates ad revenue.
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>>58331292
no nigger I hasn't
been here since 2007 and only started seeing it with the r/donnald refugees and even they caught on that it made them stand out like an anal virgin in a russian conscript unit
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>>58331300
>the one thing that keeps striking me when it comes to american prepers is that it's always 1 man vs the world

American memes. A nation that never saw a real calamity thinks that actual calamity looks like a fucking movie.

Good example of how idiotic they are is to compare their imagination to actual war that rages in Ukraine. Sane people leave their homes and become refugees when shit hit the fan. Those who stayed died, murdered by marauding soldiers who can call armored or artillery help when attacked. And the preppers think they will survive with their homes with their hand weapons, while sitting on a tons of supplies and other gear that soldiers would LOVE to put their hands on.
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>>58331320

Yet I have made a living as a professional author and editor, and I'm not a mindless conformist that changes who I am to fit in with a larger group, even a "counter-cultural" site like 4chan.

You can seethe over my formatting but I know it looks clean and professional. I don't give a shit about being "cool" or "trendy" brother.
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>>58331311
>Maybe you are also a fool for overlooking the fact that people seek attention online, youtube included, to make money, and you are giving attention to these people. Even negative attention generates ad revenue.

I don't even watch these videos.
I know enough preppers myself to know how they operate.
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>>58331311
>>58331240
a watch minute on youtube is less than a tenth of a cent
and if it involves actual guns and not some hollywood shit the creator is probably not even getting any money
you can watch this video and give the guy one lousy cent
bid deal you didn't some rando his one cent, really hurt his bottom line
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>>58331296
>No race has a monopoly on being morons.
>blocks your path
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>>58331320
its better to read with a few extra spacing

you nigger faggot
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>>58331345
I can’t say you’re wrong but america also has no chance of getting invaded. Our bad scenarios are financial collapse and civil war. What good is running away if the place you are running to is also broken?
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>>58331395
True, but preppers aren't truly retarded in the IQ sense; they're retarded in the irrational sense. Most of them are midwits as far as general intelligence. They simply identify with a contrarian narratives instead of mainstream.
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>>58331411

I'm not saying that there's no chance of a SHTF scenario in America. I'm saying that Americans have no idea how such scenario actually looks like because nothing like that ever happened in America.

Same thing with Second Amendment enthusiasts thinking that they will defeat an actual tyrannical government with their little guns. They have no idea how actually tyrannical government operates and what it would do to crush their little resistance in short time.
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>>58331348
yes and I hire professional editors for about a hundred books a year
if they start doing that shit in e-mail with me I'd laugh at them with every one else in the office
your formatting is shit and takes twice the paper
why would I pay for twice the paper you you can do this
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when
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is just as readable
so go lie to someone else you larping reddit fag

>>58331345
thing is a lot of people stayed to fight
but they all had friends didn't stand out like a "grayman" in ballpit ect.
my "insight" for what it is worth is that it take more time and effort to get to know people, make friends and get to trust them. Than it takes to make a 3rd AR. They also tend to move more during their lives so there is a decent chance that they simply don't have an people in the area that they have a long relationship with.
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>>58331345
>YUUUUKRAIIIIINE
God you redditors are fucking retarded. When people are LARPing in the US, they're not thinking about the fucking Russians or Chinese trying to invade their country. It's not going to be some clean cut two-sided conventional war. They're worried about some Yugo/Syrian style bullshit where your neighbor's dog could be a potential IED vector. The closest you'd even get to what you're talking about is if, for whatever reason, two different units of what was formerly the US armed forces decided to fuck around with each other and warcrime some locals while they're at it.

If you're going to criticise LARPers, at least do it properly. I sadly don't have it screencapped, but there was some blog post made by some Bosnian-Serb about what happened in Sarajevo during the breakup, he mentioned it being essential to have a few things, namely:
- Medicine
- Food
- A tight knit circle of family, friends, or other community members, ideally having some practical experience (so medics, doctors, mechanics, so on)
- Guns that have locally common calibers, but aren't flashy enough to warrant someone trying to raid your house, rape your corpse, and sell your guns
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>>58331141
>>your 70 year old neighbor hurt themselves poaching deer and is 5 miles away from you by road or 1 mile by foot
>habbeing +7 days
>his neighbor is already fucking poaching
[x] allow the deer to take his granbussy.
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>>58331443
>luggage lad is the law
did you also shill out for his drawing app?
>>58331404
just hitting enter at the end of your sentience keeps it plenty readable unless you have the reading level of a inner city ghetto public school
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>>58331446
>thing is a lot of people stayed to fight

They stayed and fought in organized units under a chain of command, even if totally improvised (like in Voznesensk).
Preppers think they will operate individually from the safety of their home fortresses.
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>>58331475
>it's been 7 days since *something* happened and your redneck prepper buddies are already poaching deer
heh
this dude's not gonna make it.
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>>58331484
well yes that's the "with their friends part"
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>>58331445
Yes comrade, actually tyrannical governments aren't afraid of little guns. That's why China literally registers and chains up kitchen knives, which are clearly way more destructive
https://twitter.com/songpinganq/status/1635888923267432448?lang=en
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>>58331481
I don't disagree with that, I disagree with it being new to 4chan or because of redditors
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>>58331522
it has always been a thing with paragraphs but using it behind every sentence is new trend that picked up at the same time that a lot of redditors moved over and is the same way that a lot of people on reddit type

there is no need to do so at the end of every sentence. Go to any other written medium and they doesn't leave a full white line between every line of text or start a new line for ever sentence.
Your way of writing it the deviation, not the norm.
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>>58331141
People like josh lowery just think about this stuff 24/7 to try and justify the 10s of thousands they spent on tactical gear. They try and force their niche hobby to fit the real world
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>>58331411
>What good is running away if the place you are running to is also broken?
Either society is still functioning in an area (IE it isn't broken), or things are so fucked that bugging in (aka becoming a NEET) is even on the table and any sane person is leaving for an area that's at least unfucked enough that they can hold a job.
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>>58331411
and marauding bands of gangsters are suddenly not a thing? specially when they are drafted in whatever factions army is rampaging through the area.

Also this weird fantasy about financial collapse meaning immediate free for all shoot out in itself is contradicting historical examples. Like the great depression or if the currency goes to shit what happens is old hyperinflating followed by a exchange to a new currency at abyssmal rates. Which happened with the vatnik union and old soviet rubles. Nobody started shooting over that trash and whoever had them saved up just got what they could get for it on the black market. Meanwhile when nobody had any money as the switch out was taking place barter economy filled the void with commonly recognized goods used as a intermediary. Like vodka
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>>58331141
>I'm at a loss here as to what drives these people.
I would be fine with all of that if they treated it like a silly hobby, like medieval roleplay or pseudo-cult gatherings preparing for an alien rapture or some shit. But all of the preppers I've interacted with so far are turbo serious about what they do, which is baffling. You can't predict a way in which a modern society will collapse. Maybe your future local warlord will announce a mandatory draft and it's a good idea to practice pretending you're a good peasant who never touched a gun in your life?
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>>58331456
>but there was some blog post made by some Bosnian-Serb about what happened in Sarajevo during the breakup
You mean the long debunked bullshit post detailing events far worse than anyone else documented happening?
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>>58331519
a real tyranny doesn't give you a chance for your valiant little revolution. Although you might consider your self as someone that would never bend. The bulk of the population will. And by the time you finally snap you wil be as good as alone against a system that has been plucking of people like you for years at that point. With most of the support from your community eroded because one of the snappers before you don goofed and blew up a classroom full of pre-schoolers
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>>58331445
You do realize that the second amendment was implemented by people who quite literally defeated a tyrannical government with their little guns, right? It wasn’t even that long ago. I must be replying to a subtle troll, this sort of shit sentiment wouldn’t have made it on the /k/ of 15 years ago.
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>>58331519

Obviously, tyrannical government prefers as little potential problems as possible. However, if you think it's actually afraid, they you have no idea what are you talking about. No tyrannical government is afraid of the people, no matter how heavily armed.

Tyrannical government would crush any uprising by gung-ho Americans within one season. And it wouldn't even fight them. It will go after their families, their home communities by either deporting them entirely or brutalizing them to such an extent they will turn hostile on the resistance whenever it appears. They the army will napalm bomb everything within a big radius of suspected hidey-holes. Again, not to kill the insurgents though that will be a welcome outcome. The goal would be to destroy everything that can serve as source of food or shelter, so the insurgent will die of hunger or cold in their precious hidey-holes.

> t. grandson of a resistance fighter crushed by Soviets.
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>>58331345
This is my new favorite prepped scenario.

1 fully stocked American prepper vs 50 mobiks with (inaccurate) artillery support. Who would win?
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>>58331519
>squishing spiders, this means you're afraid of them!
They're consolidating power. Basic politics. No surprise a prepper type wouldn't get it.
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>>58331598
They won through conventional military force and had no qualms turning around and using their conventional military force to defeat rebels - whose little guns proved incapable of fighting the professional army and its big guns.
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>>58331141
>talks about his wife needing a rifle and comms even though she's not coming along

Oddly enough, this is the one I don't see any problem with. If I had to leave me wife alone to do a mission, I'd make damn sure she's part of the team in some way. "Hey, get back here we got trespassers" sorry old man, Home takes priority
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>>58331598
>You do realize that the second amendment was implemented by people who quite literally defeated a tyrannical government with their little guns, right?

Lmao, Britain was literally the most liberal government on the planet at the time. With "tyranny" such as taxes and forcing young lads to clean officers' shoes. They even paid for supplies requisitioned from farmers.

Truly Americans have zero idea what a tyranny is and how it actually operates.
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>>58331593
Was it deboonked? Do tell.
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>>58331607

No way the prepper will come out alive. Some mobiks will die from friendly fire though.
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>>58331598
Fuck I am so sick of this revisionist bullshittery you assholes participate in.
The founding fathers didn't defeat the british with plucky attitudes and gusto they created an alternative government and a literal professinal army.
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>>58331649
>>58331631
Europeans shit up this board so fucking much, go back to your Ukraine threads
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>>58331607
Depends. If you motivate the mobiks by telling them there are cans of cat food and bushs baked beans, they might just get it done with great loss of life. (They havent eaten in 6 days)
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>>58331567
You literally spelled out with extra steps why a financial collapse leads to a shit storm scenario.

>Economy collapses
>New "strongman" authoritarian government takes control
>"Fixed" things through heavy handed repression and draconian law enforcement
>But not really because now corruption is rife and everyone is stealing from each other in one way or another
>Glorious leader does what all glorious leaders eventually do and drags the nation into unwinnable forever wars to restore muh national glory
>Except the economy was never really fixed and now you are suddenly fighting the entire world Napoleon/Hitler/Putin style and sacrificing all your young men to hold on to power for one more day

Financial collapses are bad exactly because they pave the way for autocratic rule and war
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>>58331141
>TFW I grew up in a rural area
>if an event like this happened, no one would be fucking around with code words and they'd just say what happened
>there wouldn't be 15 minutes of getting gear together, you'd have one of the volunteer EMTs in the community driving over with the bag that was much more than just an IFAK they kept in their vehicle and either a family member or a buddy, or getting a neighbor with a truck to drive them over if reaching the injured person was a problem
Maybe this is why I don't understand preppers.
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>>58331649
And how did they raise this alternative government and professional army, anon?
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>>58331661
I know you hate us cos you ain't us
but generaly it helps to get an outsiders perspective when understanding the facts behind ones national foundation myths
like how without french, spanish and even dutch pressure, supplies and finally open war against the brits the rebels would almost certainly not have succeeded
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>>58331736
a lot of french cash and european officers played a very large roll in it
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>>58331567
>Nobody started shooting over that trash and whoever had them saved up just got what they could get for it on the black market.
Haha yeah anon, absolutely no one did anything in the Soviet Decline era at all..
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>>58331690

You can add that the glorious leader briefly improves the economic situation by some sleight of hand. Such as Hitler by deficit spending or Putin by turning Russia into a gas station. However, after few years this model hits the wall and this is when leader decides it's time for some military glory.
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>>58331754
>NOooooo! Don't ruin my heckin based scrappy rebel narrative!! We all went innawoods and Guerilla warfared the british to the ocean!
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>>58331141
They're content creators, so the incentive is to create scenarios that get clicks.
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>>58331141
what makes more sense
>spend 15 minutes putting monkey suit on
>leave wife and child alone
>hike through woods in gucci gear and an ar15
>make yourself a target to feds/militias/bandits to save fuddruckers
>get kilt for looking like a fed/militia/bandit
OR
>drive there in a normal car, wearing normal clothes
>throw fuddruckers in the back seat
>drive home
you decide
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>>58331141
>I just saw this. It's like they've gone so far up their own ass with their obsession with crazy combat scenarios that they're actually worse off should the events they're worrying about actually happen.
You should ask Karl that.
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>>58331799
He even fucking says, "A mile in pretty much any direction there's a ton of farmers around here"
USE THEM, Jesus christ
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>>58331747
There is nothing "outsider" about the European perspective relative to anyone, Western Europe is stymied by a tiny overton window and an unbelievable parochialism made possible only by the fact that you were educated to see yourselves as international, and thus transcending parochial boundaries.
Everyone in America was taught in their compulsory education, modeled after your own, that the American revolutionary war effort would have had no chance of succeeding in the particular way it did without European assistance. It's so tiresome, you're a pussy, your ancestors were pussies, now you don't have guns and we do, now fuck off.
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power fantasy mixed with an overdeveloped 'rat' portion of their brain that makes them addicted to being prepared. but only for physical, tangible things and not shit like having insurance.
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>>58331141
>watch something on nuYoutube obviously meant for bored, borderline schizo normies to live out their dreams as robocop
>immediately come to tell 4chan about it
OP, it's terrible that you wasted your time watching garbage, but it's even worse that you decided to waste mine and everyone else's.
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>>58331141
You're doing a lot of writing over something dumb. The scenario is literally bad times and my neighbor is hurt in the woods. Fuck you
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>>58331808
I thought those were dagoth ur masks
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>Roll
Okay seething Euro, what actually happened is former British Army members, British colonists, and immigrants from other parts of Europe settled on the east coast and generally lived a yeomanry lifestyle (after some native genocide, naturally). When taxes got too damn high, and the Brits got a little too heavy handed with the political repression, a lot of citizen's militias started engaging in skirmishes with the British Army. These militias were largely localized. Over time, many militia units started being centralized and unified under Washington primarily, who in turn had assistance from other ex-Army members, and foreign mercenaries (like von Steuben). This army, whilst organised and "well regulated" in the sense of having discipline was not exactly what you'd refer to as a regular standing army today. They were, in fact, largely "irregular". This is what birthed the Continental Army, with other militia units that had previously engaged in guerilla warfare now being predominantly used for peacekeeping/policing purposes (though, they did supplement the Continental Army at times, and they did still harass the British, something that would once again happen in 1812).

Here's the really important part by the way. This irregular nature meant that Continentals were highly reliant on a lower level cadre for organisation, an emphasis on what you could call "non-commissioned officers". These were generally just local colonists, some having former martial experience. These weren't "european officers", they weren't being led solely by Frenchmen ala Green Berets in fucking Vietnam or something, these were still locals, armed primarily with whatever they could acquire on hand, or through pilfering enemy supplies, at least to start with.
>>58331789
Something something New Orleans.
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>>58331169
>>58331276
Shut up you fucking unskilled malingerer useless e3 supply fucks. Someone might talk enough smack to male you what is it the percentage might have gotten higher, anyways you know.
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>>58331856
hahaha
>tiny overton window
the range of things that are open to debate in europe is a lot wider and certainly when it comes to (far) right ideas
>It's so tiresome
so you problem with history is that it is boring because it doesn't play up to your fantasies
> you're a pussy, your ancestors were pussies
you know europe, the place with a history of near constant warfare
the place that drove pretty much all military and arms development, ect just pussies
americans might have guns but you certainly don't
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>>58331141
the amount of shit he brings when he's only going one mile away from his house is the best part
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>>58331988
>"nods can't forget those"
It's bright as fuck outside
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>>58332028
>i might be out there for 12 hours, 24 at most
for a one(1) FUCKING mile this guy could've walked the distance in the time it took him to put together all this autistic shit
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>>58331141
It’s cute that he LARPs this hard to maybe one day save his neighbor’s life. At least his thought process is to do this intricate LARP to help his friends instead of doing what some billionaires do by hiring a bunch of mercs to keep the common man out of their luxury bunkers If SHTF
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>>58331927
yes that is a very accurate image of how the continental army started, but not how it ended the war.
by the time it managed to drive the english out it had taken a great deal of foreign aid and some key foreign personnel that helped shape and drill the army.
while the continental army had a very large pool of trained and experienced soldiers and lower ranking officers to draw on. It had preciously few that had any experience dealing with larger commands. Those foreign officers didn't lead the continental army by any means, plenty of talent to go around. But advised and aided those commanders in how to structure, train and employ their now much larger force in more formal battles and sieges.

It isn't to claim that the American didn't fight for their independence or it was all down to the foreign aid. But to simply ignore the roll that foreign intervention did is a bit like the french claiming they freed Paris, ignoring that the Germans where already withdrawing in the face of the spirited American advance.

America was born from international corporation and it's biggest strength is that it is the hub of various systems of international corporation.
If the USA where to lose it's allies it would still by far be the single strongest nation, but it would no longer be the world controlling power it is now.
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>>58332049
>for a one(1) FUCKING mile
the dude is probably dead after that 15 minutes of loadout
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I think its safe to say this guy misses the forest for the trees
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>>58331948
I thought it was a language barrier problem, realizing it's an intellect issue
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>>58331849
>>58331988
>>58332028

It's like these rich gear queers all think they're "The Guy" that will be so kitted up that basic community building skills are pointless.
"Hey, you're neighbour's hurt"
"Oh shit, I'll get on the radio and tell everyone I can, a team working together to save this mans life is literally the highest chance he has."
"He doesn't like people"
Then he can be mad at me after we save his fucking life.
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>>58332092
my local firestation offers EMT certification for like $2K
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>>58332051
>It isn't to claim that the American didn't fight for their independence or it was all down to the foreign aid. But to simply ignore the roll that foreign intervention did is a bit like the french claiming they freed Paris, ignoring that the Germans where already withdrawing in the face of the spirited American advance.
Well yeah, can't deny that foreign intervention did improve the efficacy of the Continental Army and by extension various revolutionary militia units, but the initial implication made was that this alternative government and martial structure only came about as a result of said intervention, at least that's how I interpreted it. I don't believe that the Brits would have been able to maintain occupation regardless, but the training given by foreign officers, along with arms and other economic gifts did save many lives.

It was at least noteworthy enough for Thomas Paine to argue against executing King Louis during the French Revolution.
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I am genuinely growing to hate /k/
Why is this board now 100%
>hate guns
>love government
>simple as
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>>58332174
Watch the video, old dude went down and needs to go to a hospital. Try hard retard spends 15 minutes collecting gear he doesn't need for his made up scenario.
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>>58332124
Jesus crhist, People own IR illuminators on their guns for twice that amount.
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>>58332076
big words and big claims for someone that gets to chose between funding isreal and funding isreal
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>>58331141
I would just hop on my quad (has a first aid kit for gunshots/crashes strapped to it at all times) and grab a axe/tarp in case I need to jimmy rig a stretcher or splint(s)
would be out in the woods in 1 minute
don't need guns or anything since this scenario is boomercore and not SHTF ZOMBIE SURVIVAL FUCKERY
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>>58331141
It's an American cultural thing they are raised thinking that everyone's trying to take away their American freedoms

It's a bizarre phenomenon not seen anywhere else in the world

A mixture of tall tales from their methhead dad's and American propaganda and the outcome is what you are seeing here
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>>58332242
It's generous of you to think white trash has dads
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>>58331937
>Someone might talk enough smack to male you what is it the percentage might have gotten higher, anyways you know.
one of the sentences of all time
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>>58331141
do they have dozens of go bags and assault packs and chest rigs for different scenarios?
that would be hilarious

anyway the reason why is America is a very dysfunctional society
for 43+ years the neoliberal assault has been dismantling society and leaving people adrift without safety nets
people are working harder and harder to stay afloat, they aren't getting ahead, their standard of living is declining, they're getting sicker, they're dying younger and more frequently
they're confused and scared as their lives and the community around them fall apart
there is no organized opposition to this state of affairs, the democrats are the less extreme faction of the business party and the so-called left is small and fractured and preoccupied naval gazing
leaving people to fall prey to grifters giving them easy excuses in religion and paranoia
and being a prepper provides a distracting comfort
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>>58332256
>skinny dyels
they could at least look the part
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>>58332230
I'm not my government big guy, and my taxes aren't close to half my income. I don't have to live vicariously through international politics. Hence the tension between gunposters and war tourists.
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>>58332174
it's just laughing at the OP's larp. ignore all the autistic arguing in the thread who reads that shit
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>>58332156
true
there would have been no revolution without the will, skill and grit of the americans
much as with more recent cases outside help will not come unless you can prove it will be well spent. And so any success won by outside aid is still at it's source to the credit of the people that earned all that aid
here's a toast to an other century of active american involvement.
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>>58332256
>wearing those pre-ripped jeans
lmao. i also guarantee every one of them works a desk job
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>>58332092
Everyone wants to be "The Guy you call" without realizing that more often than not you're going to need to call other people
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>>58332268
Either not natty or sub 5'8, but yeah Lucas just announced he started lifting.
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>>58331197
Does the response seem valid to the situation? No, it is ridiculous. And so it is not weird to observe this.
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>>58332301
>>58332268
they'll always have chicken legs because they never bothered to be fit until they were 30

ride your bikes and hike lads, don't end up like most roideheads and copefags with noodles for legs
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>>58332250
Theres no such thing as white trash only lost souls they aren't designed for the country they now live in
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>>58332268
all the rugged outdoors types that i've known in my life have been very lean and not overly jacked. that guy in your pic may look impressive but he's probably never done a day of physical labor or even yardwork in their life
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>>58332242
>It's an American cultural thing they are raised thinking that everyone's trying to take away their American freedoms.
But (((they))) are, both foreign and domestic. They have also largely succeeded globally, seeing how you are a sniveling cuckold.
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>>58332339
I've seen a few but they're usually northern farm boys who eat steak 3 meals a day, and they're usually way ticker/fatter than that dude because they need the fat to insulate from the fucking wind chill
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>>58332357
>because they need the fat to insulate from the fucking wind chill
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>>58332288
same here
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>>58332332
where are you getting this idea from? the general understanding is that upper body mass is actually harder to put on later in life, if anything
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>>58331141
jesus fuck. for this much time and energy they could go to medical school at night and become trauma surgeons
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>>58332348
>seeing how you are a sniveling cuckold
It's like talking to a crazy person honestly, they deny the exact phenomena which shaped their own countries. Australians are the worst in this regard.
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>>58332268
SEXO SEXO SEXO
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Ready for financial collapse and riots.
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>>58332380
>go to medical school at night
I don't think that's how it works bro it's medical school not an EMT certificate
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>>58332448
Tier 1 civilian operator status.
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>>58332378
lmao
bro body builders legit get calf surgery to cope
your quads get bigger but your calves do not because the tissue doesn't work that way

enjoy your stick legs stickbug boy
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People who played 'war' as 8 year olds are now adults and have a job.
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>>58332480
>literally me
actually we played cowboys and indians
sorry native americans
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>>58332348
No Ivan you arent agitating violence.
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>>58331937
Good morning sir, please do the needful and post in legible English next time
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>>58331141
Based on what?
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>>58331446
>I hire professionals
No you don't
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>>58332499
Is this a bot? Is this all k is now? A bunch of war obsessed Europeans and nato pro government shilling?
When can I have my silly larping and magical place k back?
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>>58332550
Quiet Ivan you don't blend in.
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>>58331292
I love it when tourists like to gaslight people because they are too retarded to fit. People back then didn't fucking

make a new line

for each sentences,

they knew how to write whole paragraphs and then made a new line for them

nigger
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>>58331141
I'm pretty much just going to have a VZ58 SBR under a sweater. Don't show force unless you have force. This retard going out there alone looking like this is a bad idea. It says I'm a threat and I have valuable shit.
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>>58332478
Nah I started browsing /fit/ when I was 14, my legs are overdeveloped. I see, I thought you meant legs in general, you're pretty much right about calves, which require huge training volume. If you want to see the most insane calves on earth find a formerly obese asian woman (asians have lower calf muscle attachments so it's more obvious).
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>>58332598
>>58332499
Europeans go home, including Russians obviously, please just post on >>>/int/
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>>58332690
ah gotcha, my bad
poor explanation
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>>58331141
I keep seeing this guys videos show up but I never watch them. This guy showed up out of nowhere.I think GT and/or Lucas promoted him on IG
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Poor mans Risky Crisky.
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>>58332849
Risky is getting pretty close to going off the deep end these days
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>>58331948
How big is the fine if you call the leader of your country a child raping nigger lover? How many years in prison?
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>>58333057
$3.50
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>>58331141
Sounds like nigger seething we are going to have armor and your shitty Glock Autocars won't round and then we are gonna shoot you dead. Lmao.

Tick Tock.
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>>58331141
I thought this video was disappointing too. I've watched a couple of Dirty Civilian videos before and they made some of the right noises that made me think they were reasonable, and then this. Why do we need 150rds of 5.56? Why are you relying on your rifle over your pistol? You plan to be gone for a couple hours, why are we packing NODs? Why exactly did we choose not to drive? Very disappointing. An untimed explanation section in addition to the timed load out selection might've been helpful, but these decisions seem borderline indefensible.
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>>58331276
>>58331169
>>58331141
If you go back and watch some older T.Rex arms videos, the guys who are now somehow over 100k subs on youtube despite JUST starting the channel, appear in the background of a lot of T.rex arms videos.

Like for example that torture test of the Aero Precision AR10, when the bolt broke or whatever, the white guy from Dirty Civilian was the one who acted like a gunsmiff. He also appears in a bunch of Lucas' training videos.

They're clearly IRL friends. Magically, through absolutely no fuckery whatsoever, their channel explodes in popularity and basically goes from 0 subs to 50k with the release of their first video.

Gee I wonder how that happened?
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>>58332716
>>58333153
Stop posting already, Ivan.
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>>58332983
Based and schizo are divided by a thin line.
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>>58331456
>>58331633
lol bruh you thought that was real? dude wrote whole Metro fanfic lol. "Blyat my cousins and I had to sniper battle every day to get to market so we could trade with our bullets just like in video game Stalker, blyat"
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>>58333291
Stop shilling for free kike.
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>>58333452
Idk, a lot of the talk of lack of medical supplies, difficulties finding food, and homes being ransacked is pretty similar to the stuff that came out of Raqqa, Idlib, and Aleppo, y'know?
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>>58332849
>Are you angry at the government?
> Me too, here's another AK review
He's a fag. Plus he's scared of being called a Nazi.
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>>58331292
It's not formatting, it's retarded.
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>>58331141
Generation trauma from the world wars
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>>58331799
Unless the 70 year old is so much more adept at hunting deer than you can someone ask me what the point of risking saving this guy in this scenario would be? The 70 year old Jimbob is worth maybe getting sniped by a fucking bandit? Like I get it if you considered maybe getting a group to go search for him. But like leave your wife and kid to fend for themselves in a SHTF scenario doesn't sound very prepped to me.
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>>58331141
larping is fun, everyone has a hobby. You wish you had his gear faggot OP is just jelly
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>>58331141
Preppers will image any kind of fantasy as long as it gives a good reason to keep consooming
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>>58333603
Real.
>WAOW GUYS IM A SCHIZO!!! ITS A REAL THING GUYS TRUST ME!! Now listen to me screech for 30 mins with my feminine voice about Facebook boomer tier political takes
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>>58331604
you vastly underestimate the logistical resiliency of a state with wanton disregard for their own domestic resources. your inherited personal trauma does not a rule of society create.

and the resistance fighters "crushed by the Soviets" never approached the level of armament possessed casually by the "gung-ho Americans" you dismiss. you've mistaken the consequences of a true monopoly on force for the consequences of rebellion - and extrapolated one force/citizen relationship (i.e. Soviet) for a fundamentally different one (i.e. American).

to put this to you in terms as simple and tactless as i can - your grandparent was not equipped for the conflict in question. there is no general lesson in their failure beyond that.
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>>58335376
>why would I lift a finger to help someone else in my community rather than leaving them for dead if they called me for help?
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>>58331141
>/k/ is now against prepping/LARPing
God this board has gone down the shitter hard.
If you're a Civilian that looks and thinks like me you SHOULD own guns and gear and fucking train with it because it's a part of our culture.
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>>58331294
Yep. Have thousands of different human grade antibiotics.
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>>58331176
Chinkcel detected. Post eyes, you hideous dicklet slant loser.
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>>58335484
You may know this, but keep an eye on the expiration dates of tetracyclines, they can cause kidney failure once they expire
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>>58331141
These people were zombie hunters before they became preppers.
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>>58331141
What's worse? Dying of old age and never having the opportunity to use your SHTF weapons/gear? Or dying of old age and had multiple opportunities to use your SHTF weapons/gear?

kind of getting a "when all you have is a hammer" vibe here...
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>>58335455
>saving a retarded geriatric who now can't even look after himself because he suffered a crippling injury poaching deer merely one week into SHTF
Meanwhile your family got raped by nogs, hope he was worth it
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>>58335465
>>/k/ is now against prepping/LARPing
The problem is that any other kind of LARPer acknowledges that their LARPing is pure fantasy, while modern tacticool LARPers will screech at you if you don't play pretend with them that their LARPing is 100% practical.
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>>58335566
What's more retarded: LARPing just to LARP or LARPing while training for something that looks more and more possible with each passing day?
I'm fully convinced half of all posters on this board now are feds or redditors
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>>58335542
>Meanwhile your family got raped by nogs
You sound unwell, friend
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>>58335581
>looks more and more possible with each passing day
Ah, so you're upset that he identified you precisely

> I'm fully convinced half of all posters on this board now are feds or redditors
Says mr "Boy oh boy I can't wait to shoot some politicians"
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>>58335585
Just gotta remind everyone what we do this for
And you do it by minimizing risk, especially when the best outcome still leaves you straddled with a needy cripple
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>>58331808
oh my god they are all fat and/or women lmaoo
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>>58335542
are you pathologically incapable of understanding how a community works?

until you figure out how to cure your psychopathy, somebody who does understand the value of a community gunning you down will always be acting in self defense
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>>58332256
holy fuck the stance that 2nd from right does is so erotic!!! In need of rape correction!
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>>58335611
I don't care, I'd rather be prepared for something that *may* not happen then get caught with my pants down.
If you weren't a retard you could see why anyone with 2 brains cells to rub together could see this but:
>Says mr "Boy oh boy I can't wait to shoot some politicians"
tells me everything I need to know about you considering I never even said this in my 3 posts on this thread
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>>58335641
See
>>58331703
You never had a community to begin with, it's just your family and a liability
You either go wide or slim, since your retarded ass already failed going wide, you better open that ass up if you feel you need to endanger your family for negative gain
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>>58331607
At some point Prigozhin will point to some of the dead in front of the peepers house and demand more shells from Shoigu
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>>58335673
Why did you link my post about how small rural communities actually work that says the exact opposite of what you're saying?
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>>58335737
This is OPs scenario, quit being autistic and admit to your mistake
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>>58335787
Wut?
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>>58335451
Anti soviet partisans were much better armed and experienced for the time than modern American preppers. They had machine guns and mortars, and were veterans of WWII.

Having 4 AR15s per person isn’t really going to improve your chances against the Reaper drones that are taking turns overflying your forest hideout 24/7
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>>58335813
We are discussing OPs scenario here where (You) and your family presumably only have one outside contact, currently being a retarded cripple, and why it would be in your best interest to leave him to die
Stick to the script, I only referred to your other post because it highlights how OPs scenario is NOT what you are currently arguing for
Leave him to die, it's only sensible
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>>58335894
>retard thinks everyone else in the thread is the same poster
I'm not: >>58335641, and if you only have one person you're on good terms with in your small community who isn't family, then you've massively fucked up. Thinking you need to drop tons of money on gear to prep for shooting people because you've isolated yourself from the small community you're a part of by being an ultrasperg should unironically disqualify you from owning guns, because the scenario you're prepping for is a step or two away from just being another mass shooter.
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>>58331286
I spent about $1300 on Allivet a couple a weeks ago thanks to your post, thanks anon. My fishies are stocked for the rest of their lives. Hell, im even considering buying a few hundred dollars more.
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>>58335993
Thanks for proving me correct that the guy in OPs scenario is a massive dumbass, I'm sorry for your autism though
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>>58331141
This fucking video had me ranting at my wife about how retarded this faggot is. Bob the geriatric neighbour twisted his ankle, he needs a splint and help hobbling home... he doesn't need someone with NVGs to ambush PLA forces from a treestand 49 miles from civilization.

Throw some medical shit, bottles of water for you and bob, and a spare mag in a dora the explorer backpack, put some poptarts in your pocket and get walking the singular mile to your friend. If you get cold, or tired, or more gay, your home is literally 15 minutes away.
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>>58335507
Modern doxycycline no longer contains the problematic compound that causes it to become toxic with time, you can safely stack it indefinitely all you want, which you absolutely should since its so cheap and useful. What i really would like to get my hands on is some of the mycin AB’s to cover drug resistant gram+ bacteria but they control those a lot more tightly.
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>>58331141
question why do you want to bring a gun on a search and rescue?
your hands are needed for all that ass grabbing when you finally find the goofy goober
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>>58331320
You're fucking retarded and your insane conspriacy theory about reddit is unhinged.

People are not accidentally typing two newline characters they are intentionally doing it thats customarily how you break paragraphs in plain text you fucking retard I've been on 4Chan since 2004.
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>>58335993
>community
>closest guy is a retarded old guy who couldn't stop being a hero hunting by himself who you now must decide if creating a widow and fatherless child is a risk worth creating to save him
Again explain to me why this guy at 70 is so valuable? Does he suck dick like a champ? Like are you positive it's not bait to get yourself sniped and now your wife a sex slave? How do you know he didn't sell you down the river?

Why are you going alone? The community should be going together right? Since it's a mile and this fag has all this gear why isn't he flying a DJI drone to check the spot out before he gets himself looted.
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>>58331168
Fpbp
/thread
OP if you watched the whole dang video even though you could tell it was garbage that’s on you.
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>>58332307
I’m actually shocked sometimes that there are people who genuinely cannot distinguish what’s being said and reply anyway. The post you’re replying to doesn’t claim it’s odd to observe that. I’m not part of this convo but I assure you just read it once with your thinking cap on and you’ll see what is actually and quite clearly being expressed. I understand that there are many different skills but reading about non-technical things should be one of those keystone skills that everyone has.
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>>58336270
Ywnbaw, meine negre sil vous plait returnez-vous a Reddit.
Merci beaucoup!
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>>58331141
Because American apocalypticism is primarily fantasy rather than fear or preparation. Take the well-trodden "zombie apocalypse" - no one is interested in them for the actual survival scenario, they're in love with the idea of leaving behind their boring middle class lives so they can go out and shoot people without consequences.
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>>58336213
The mycin suffix doesn’t correspond to a single class, usually when you say that people will think you mean aminoglycosides, but from context I think you just mean vanc? Or azithromycin? Good to know about tetracyclines, looks like you’re right that this has been called into question lately, they didn’t teach us that.
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>>58331286
You will just have expire antibiotics on hand that wont totally kill off the infection that will inevitably consume you. Ive seen it before where the antibiotics didnt work and they had to progress to more potent ones until the person had to be put in hospice.
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>>58335993
Who is that (You) you speak of, me or the idiot in OP?
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>>58331300
>the one thing that keeps striking me when it comes to american prepers is that it's always 1 man vs the world
There's a sci-fi novel called "Go-Go Girls of the Apocalypse" which is a funny book that's meant to be entertaining, but it kinda reflects what these people are like, because in the novel there's a nuclear war that blows up America, and some survivors come down from their bunker and it's a survivalist wasteland... but there's still capitalism (I guess) or a consumerist economy and casinos and bars and all kinds of fun stuff to do, and you can drive fast cars and shoot machine guns. It's like Fallout sorta.

That's how I think a lot of these guys imagine it. It's like a movie or a video game. Or a projection of a combination of various fears and desires. Or a solution to the ennui they feel living in a highly atomized consumer society, maaaan. But yeah. Because there's a "purpose" to your life if you have to "survive."

>>58331345
>Good example of how idiotic they are is to compare their imagination to actual war that rages in Ukraine.
I knew a guy who had been in some hairy places in Africa where there were active conflicts going on and seen some of it going down (look up Malakal), and he believed your typical 14-year-old girl in these places could run circles around your average "survival" dude in the survival department. But there would be a situation where a rebel group comes near a village, and shots ring out, and the village decamps for the bush immediately and is out there for a week, and then the rebels leave, and the villagers come back loaded down with every conceivable thing you can harvest from the bush, all kinds of vegetables and bush meat, and they reopen their little markets and are back to business in a few hours.

>>58331631
>Truly Americans have zero idea what a tyranny is and how it actually operates.
Revolutions are also rare even in "tyrannies." The American Revolution primarily had economic causes IMO like most revolutions.
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>>58331345
Also on this, the war in Ukraine is occurring within a reasonably developed part of the world. It's poor and certainly so relative to the Europeans right next door to them, but they have nuclear power plants and trains and fairly large cities (that are extremely difficult to capture). We're seeing a war occur in a place like *that* which is unlike the wars we've seen in a lot of countries since World War II.

That's not South Sudan. That is a very underdeveloped country. But the survivalist fantasies take place in an America that has de-developed to the level of South Sudan. But these guys have likely never been there, because if they did, they'd realize how silly what they're doing is. If you dropped them there, they'd just get most of their shit stolen.
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>>58333057
About tree fiddy
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I just find preppers to be such a american thing. Yeah i know they exist in other countries but these american preppers are something else. It's almost like a hoarder disorder mixed with paranoia.
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>>58336824
>The American Revolution primarily had economic causes IMO like most revolutions.
No. All revolutions are political, there is also need for these conditions to be met:
1. Great dissatisfaction with current authority.
2. Political group with great power who are seeking to change authority.
3. Weakness of current authority.
If 2-3 conditions are not met this would be just mutiny that would be stomped.

>inb4 mug taxes are economical
No. Taxes are always political. Taxes are paid to political authority. Taxation is theft (robbery actually). Taxation question is question who you choose as bandit who is allowed to rob you.
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>>58337483
American prepeprs first of all because they can afford it monetary and legally. Detached house, plot of land, ownership of the guns and cash to spend. Most europoors simply can't afford this combo. So even there are europoors thinking about prep, they can only cope inside their commieblocks.
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>>58331747
Kys and go back to rêddit you gay fucking nigger bitch.
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>>58331141
It's similar to commie or teen subculture fantasies. They are sad by their lack of status and think if society collapse would lead to them swimming on top due to their skill and preps.
But the truth is, unless you end up in siege of Sarajevo type of shtf looting is extremely unlikely. Best you will get is opportunistic diversity like we saw during the summer of love.
I'd say the presence of the state, does fuck-all to prevent crime, maybe even enables more than it stops. It's not like everyone is just waiting around for them to look away before the purge starts.

>t. Preps for floods, tornados, and wildfires, shit that happens on yearly basis where I live.
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>>58331747
American children learn this at age 10. That’s why we still continue to name things after Lafayette, Pulaski, and von Steuben.
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I dont see how having like $10k in gucci operator gear will do anything for you in a financial collapse. Even with riots. Dressing like a regular person with your concealed carry will make you less of a target. If I were the big scary looter rioter boogyman, seeing this guy all kitted out just tells me he has lots of expensive stuff to take.
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>>58331320
You dumb fucking lying nigger
https://old.sage.moe/k/thread/2396009/
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>>58332174
My thoughts exactly, the irony of a weapons and gear board hating on weapons and gear larp is hilarious.

>>58332268
>>58332339
Its essential to be fit, but I don't get 4chan's and other gear circles' constant obsession over being "jacked". I think there is always going to be a difference between someone who focuses on outdoors and actual larp/training, and a gym rat who sometimes trains. I'm not saying one is better then the other. However the constant implication of making fitness your number 1 goal and not just part of the equation is stupid. You can be in the best shape of your life, but if you don't set time aside to train you will still be at a loss. Also I'm not saying civilians can ever match the military, they can't. Being a soldier is the military's full time job, a civilian has an actual job and family to consider before training/shtf prepping.
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>>58331345
>muh calamity
Have you seen Texas during the winter recently?
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>>58335878
>forest hideout
You're doing it wrong.
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>>58331141
>Medicine is hard
>Gardening is too much work
>I don't feel like learning electrical or mechanical work
>What the fuck is a HAM radio, can you eat it?
>I don't want to develop actual, practical skills, I just want to run around with a gun and a plate carrier because it looks super duper cool when I do it in video games
>What do you mean there are no respawns in real life?
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>>58336447
Pretty much this, with the added idea that in the apocalypse they'll be able to shuck off their low to middling social status and be the powerful warlord that they always knew they were meant to be. They can't even remotely comprehend the idea that Bill in The Last of Us is a fictional character, and that their LARP is doing nothing to actually prepare them for a disaster of any magnitude.
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>>58336447
>so they can go out and shoot people without consequences
you were so close to getting it, but then you clutched your pearls so hard you started vomiting them out onto your keyboard

it's not playing pretend about "muh mass shooter fantasy", it's literally playing out a hero fantasy.

these are the kind of people who fantasize about capping a mass shooter in the middle of the act, not the delusional stooges actually carrying it out.

sure it's silly, the premise in the OP is deeply flawed, and his community strategy is a bit lacking - but at its core the whole thing is a hero fantasy, gearing up to go rescue somebody
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>>58331141
Been my experience most prepors should focus of diabetes prevention above all else.
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>>58332339
>that guy in your pic may look impressive but he's probably never done a day of physical labor or even yardwork in their life
Lmao I love this kind of DYEL cope.
>Yeah, he may be able to lift more weight than me, but I mow my lawn on the weekends so I'm actually stronger.
You're like women when they see a girl hotter than them and get all catty about how she's probably anorexic and a total skank.
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>>58331141
I have never seen e prepper IRL. Do they really exist?
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>>58331395
Plurality != monopoly.
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>>58340254
Management at blue collar companies
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>>58331294
>ICE doesn't seize non controlled substances as a policy
They don't really seize controlled ones as far as I can tell. I bring in Test and Tren and Anavar and various SARMS in from overseas all the time, never had a package get picked up at customs.
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>>58331141
I'll admit at first I fell for the meme. But, at the end of the day, I realized it's ultimately just a fun af game for me.I focus on a real career and practical preps like savings, extra shelf stable foods, and (for fun) gardening and DIY work. I don't care if shooting drills and larp gear will never serve a purpose for me that a home defense shotgun and pistol wouldn't do for like under a grand total. Way I see it now everything beyond that shotgun and pistol is equivalent to me wasting money on a sports car cus I like it, even if I know I'm not a fucking street racer.

Seems like the healthy medium to me
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>>58340461
I've had shut seized not cus it's illegal but because the retards THOUGHT it was an illegal item
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>>58339618
>Its essential to be fit, but I don't get 4chan's and other gear circles' constant obsession over being "jacked"
to look good and attract females
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>>58340190
He never said he's stronger when it comes to moving weight. What he is saying is correct. Being jacked means absolute "jack" shit when it comes to survival. Having spent time outdoors is the most important thing. If you read and look at those old black and white photographs of the men who went on expedition's when discovering the world, they were thin, but in shape. Having endurance to traverse long distances in shit weather and the knowledge of surviving in these places (that comes with experience) is what matters the most.

I'll admit, That's discussing very niche scenarios in the modern world. Today there's really no need for that. I'll concede looking jacked has more pros in the modern world because we live in very superficial societies. And how other men and women perceived you, will translate to more opportunities and a higher social standing. So being jacked is Ultimately a good thing today. back in the day though, it would have been a time waster.
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>>58340473
Larping for fun isn't a problem. Everyone has hobbies. Being realistic about the reason for owning it is the difference. Dreaming about scenarios where you run around in public in full kit wanting to shoot people to justify your gear purchases is autistic as shit. A bunch of half cocked guys in full kit does nothing to help bad situations.
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>>58340745
Fair nuff. I do wonder if there's a grey area between there though. A militia in the "we're a rebellion" sense seems delusional. A "we're a rural community and train for natural disasters and/or civil unrest" type seems overkill but vaguely justifiable. I doubt the states is anywhere near South Africa tuer civil unrest but it doesn't seem impossible depending on where you are.
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>>58331141
No you see anon, he's a lone wolf, which is clearly the best way to stay alive in a danger area.
That's why when shtf in Ukraine every random civi with a rifle was just wandering around by themselves through Russian lines unopposed to go rescue the local grandma.
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Why do you watch this shit?
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>>58340461
Why would you bother with SARMS when you're already roiding?
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>>58331320
There is no difference between how the textbox functions on 4chan vs on Reddit and never has been. "Reddit spacing" has never existed.
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>>58340796
i'd say ""we're a rural community and train to protect each other" covers all your bases, and lets you adapt your "serious business" level accordingly without changing the core ideal
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>>58331240
>So I suspect that OP might even be the guy in the video promoting his own channel on 4chan.
That would be genius, a Prepper channel could take on the butthurt NPR / DOD Cyber brigade style of posting and pretend to seethe over their own channel
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>>58332849
>Acts based
>Gets sponsored
>You need to watch my gay videos on the basics because there are new gun people every day!
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Long term food is easy and cheap. Seal the wheat in Mylar.
https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/food-storage/home-storage-center-locations-map?lang=eng
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>>58331690
But that's not really a breakdown of society scenario, is it?
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>>58331169
>>58331176
>>58331296
Seething no-guns.
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>>58340647
>females
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>>58341607
Or men if that's what you prefer. I'm not here to judge.
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>>58331286
Thank you for breeding more antibiotic resistant infections. Dickhead.
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>>58331141
These kinds of preppers are of course cringe. But prepping for irl things, like having a 48 hour bag if you live in a hurricane area, or a place to shelter + a couple days of supplies if you live in tornadoville makes perfect sense.

It's pretty simple desu, if you have time to run then you run. If you don't you shelter. Prepping for civil war or societal collapse is impossible for all but a select few because you can try holding out or living off the land, but eventually a swarm of hungry people will find you and then you're fucked.

Tfw, live in a city. I have my 'cane go-bag, I have accepted that in nuclear war or societal collapse I will die like a dog.
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>>58335581
This isn't training, at least larp is self-aware
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>>58335465
>because it's a part of our culture.
The most retarded reason you could give for doing anything.
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>>58341569
>cheap
Up front it would be like $85k for 15 years of calories for 4 people, and that is eating nothing more than milk power enriched onion flatbread. You can't say it's cheap even if you factor in killing yourself 1 year into the rations. It would still be $5,690 for a single year of food.
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>>58335581
This. There was an actual antifa war lord toting around an AR15 in Seattle in 2020 or 2021. If SHTF happens, the bad guys won't be asking dakota meyer for instagram permission
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>>58341577
Breakdowns are gradual and then sudden. A "collapse" as defined by Joseph A. Tainter in his book "The collapse of complex societies" is the fall of a complex human society characterized by the loss of cultural identity and of social complexity as an adaptive system, the downfall of government, and the rise of violence.

In this regard what I described in the previous post fits this description. When states fall into autocratic government types from democracies/republics that is a decrease in complexity for that civiliaztion. Less checks and balances, less groups sharing power, more consolidated decision making. Because civilizations when they fall or deteriorate typically go through stages.

And if ever the Autocrat is defeated they country either rebuilds stronger than before and transitions hopefully back upwards to a democracy/republic. Or it slinks even further down into warlordism and/or a weakened central government that is in constant jepodry of loosing control to terrorists/cartels/hostile foreign powers/etc. On the lowest rung you have places like in Africa where the de-facto government is whoever is strongest in whatever local region but otherwise the nation operates in a state of relative anarchy.

It's exceedingly rare that a people go from top to bottom or bottom to top in the complexity pyramid. A group of roving tribesmen do not suddenly form a parliament and elect a president. A civil society does not suddenly become a mad max every man for himself hellscape. Except in very very extraordinary circumstances.

So yes a democracy/republic falling into an autocratic state is a big deal because that usually is what precedes further fucked up occurrences and hard times.

There's a meme that gets passed around about strong men and hard times but I think the order is wrong, it should go something like this.

Strong men create hard times, Hard times create weak men, weak men create good times, Good times create Strong men.
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>>58341972
>Comment too long
>weak men create good times
Which is to say that weak men lead their nation to civilizational collapse and (hopefully) to a national rebirth into good times. I.E. the defeat of Hitler allowing Germany to rebuild and transition back into a democracy. It is entirely possible that weak men simply lead to another strongman taking control and fucking things up further.

But my larger point is that the progression is not always this linear path that people assume with the Strong men create good times, good times create weak men, weak men create hard times, hard times create strong men. type of thinking.

Stalin was a dictator who arguably elevated his country into a more democratic form under the communists. Franco stayed out of WW2 and transitioned out of power so that democracy could take his place. But these are more uncommon than the reverse. Because usually the Authoritarian gets into an unwinnable war. Stalin had help from Lend lease, and Franco stayed out of the war. So that can explain their elevation back up the complex society ladder.
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>>58331168
How do I stop doing this to myself? I hate watch constantly there's just so much content
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>>58339618
You don't need to be jacked, but you should strive for at least a mid-high 200s bench press, a squat in the mid-high 300s and a deadlift in the 400s if you want to be essentially prepared for any situation you could conceivably experience. With those numbers you're going to be as strong as you'd ever need while not being so big that your cardio becomes extremely difficult to maintain
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>>58340461
Just luck. I'd order domestic only but you do you.
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These guys are everywhere. Back when I was into martial arts every class would have this guy who tried to assert dominance over the instructor by asking retarded scenarios in which the particular martial art would be useless.

> So anyways, this is how you can put somebody in a wrist lock....

> BUT WHAT IF I'M IN THE GHETTO AT 2 IN THE MORNING WITH $100 BILLS HANGING OUT OF ALL OF MY POCKETS WHEN I GET AMBUSHED BY FIFTEEN 200 POUND BIKERS ON METH WITH UZIS? WHAT DO I DO THEN HUH!?

It would always be some lanky weak chinned with coke bottle glasses type, or a fat slob. The kind you just instinctively know have never been in a fight in their life, and never will be. Its all just a juvenile power fantasy dreamed up by impotent losers.
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>>58331779
>However, after few years this model hits the wall and this is when leader decides it's time for some military glory.
Hitler always had the goal of war in his mind, his deficit spending was due to that objective, gearing up the german military took precedence over petty (from nazis' pov) issues like economy
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>>58336050
Congrats. Youre going to go from dying from an infection to dying to a resistant infection because they'll have inevitably expired by the time you use them. Good job.
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>>58341972
>>58342029
>There's a meme that gets passed around about strong men and hard times but I think the order is wrong, it should go something like this.
It was always retarded. The collapse of the Roman republic was preceded by the rise of "Strong Men". Marius and Sulla cored out the Republic until it was too weak to prevent the rise of the Caesars.
And the Roman Empire only appeared to flourish because it was carried along by the institutional inertia of the Republic. As you, civilisations don't just stop dead.
Eventually the strong men who ran the Empire cored out every single institution until the whole damn edifice was a facade over 100% rot.
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>>58341812
Was anyone killed in the chaz? I think at least one person was. What a weird time that was. There was one of those zones in Atlanta too. Think a kid got run over or shot. Honestly, best bet is to just avoid those areas. They seem few and far between.
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>>58342047
If you are a masochist maybe try auto-erotic asphyxiation instead of watching cringe videos.
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>>58342762
>Was anyone killed in the chaz?
A couple kids joy riding in a stolen vehicle ended up crashing into a barrier near some of the guys who were standing guard and got shot. The whole CHAZ situation was fucking retarded. If you read into it the entire reason people started bringing guns was because the local police were circulating fake reports that the Proud Boys and other groups with guns were out looking to start trouble and how the police were just going to stand back, because they bought into the retarded idea that only people on the right own guns.
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>>58339800
bill is literally me
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>>58342922
The funniest thing about chaz was boomers across the country losing their minds over some dorks hanging out one one street in one city for a few weeks.
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>>58342960
It's really CRINGE for those guys to prepare for a SHTF involving ar15s and mag pouches. Well yeah stuff like that happened one time, but it was just that once ok!!! And those guys were dorks!! Preparing is still really really CRINGE. That's the facts, fellow kids.
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>>58331141
Hol up. So content on a crap site like (((youtube))) is made for clicks? You probably watch pewdiepie shit too don't' you? You need to unplug and reset yourself bro. Your perspective is lost.
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>>58342987
correct
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>>58333057
I can call him that in a busy street and get as much approval as disapproval
but above all not get beaten up by a pack of niggers and then be charged with the hate crime of provoking some ferals
oh and while wearing black face and not getting fired
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>>58342960
>hanging out one one street
It was a bit more than that, but yeah that was a reoccurring theme with people's ideas of what happened during 2020. In reality, a basic level of situational awareness would allow you to avoid the small areas where shit happened.

>>58342987
>to prepare for a SHTF involving ar15s and mag pouches. Well yeah stuff like that happened one time
Except it didn't. There were zero instances of someone even needing to reload in 2020, and the vast majority of instances of violence involved cases where both parties were willing participants who went out of their way to put themselves in that situation, especially when it came to cases involving people with rifles.
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>>58342960
They're still losing it now. There's a guy in this fucking thread talking about warlords in CHAZ.
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>>58342128
Making fitness a one of your priorities and taking it seriously as you are saying is good, and I agree with you. Striving to hit those goals is a good thing to do. What I'm referencing when someone doesn't look like a roided out Instagram user or gym rat, they get ragged on. The general prepping/"minute man" group of people have other priorities and focuses, and won't realistically be able to hit the level of fitness someone who spends a lot of their free time in the gym can. They also have to deal with community building, training on tactics, marksmanship, rucking, learning land nav, medical skill, practicing all of those skills, ect. I don't think some anons have realistic idea of what most normies in this genere of the gun community attainable level of fitness looks like.
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>>58341588
That image makes me laugh a lot, I remember that sub reddit, it was about a president with fake tan.
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>>58342776
David Carradine aren't you supposed to be dead?
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>>58343298
That is if they actually take shit shit seriously, and aren't basement dwellers who sometimes see the light of day only to take picture of themselves in expensive gear they never use.
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>>58332049
Classic loot goblinism. I'll be roof camping him naked while my bro hides in a bush to loot his gear and make a recycling run
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>>58331141
What ever happened to the motto, "Do more with less"?
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>>58331141
It's simple, these people are goobers, don't let them make you angry though, just smile and laugh at them.
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>>58335636
>women
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You autistic fucks realize they make their money advertising the shit in the video, don't you?

They aren't retarded; They're shills and they're laughing all of the way to the bank.
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Count how many times he lists off brand names, and that's about how many paychecks he's getting for this video.
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>>58331141
deer is a codeword for 50 joggers
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>>58340726
image source?
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One thing nobody has commented on

>It's a mile away
>"I'll take some of the food out of my backpack I don't expect to be out for more than 24-48 hours"

24-48 hours to walk a mile?
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>>58340726
>Being jacked means absolute "jack" shit when it comes to survival.
Being fit and very strong is strongly correlated with survival in all situations, actually. From gunshot wounds to getting lost inna woods to even fucking plane crashes. I read a book about it where the authors speculated that apart from the physical benefits there's a mental component too, whereby when people have the discipline and strength of mind to push themselves to building good bodies that translate into the mental strength and discipline to survive.
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>>58348184
>to walk a mile?
he has a truck
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>>58331240
Meds now, schizo.
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>>58332530
You snort copium professionally, surely someone must be paying you to cope this hard if you are a professional writer but you can't handle criticism over formatting.
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The problem isn't the video, but the people it will inspire. The guy, like many other anons have addressed, is a youtuber, who looks for clicks to drive his content. He also has sponsorships, so he uses excess gear for his LARPs.
The problem is when people ignore practical solutions in favour of gear queer heavy options that seem tacticool in their mind but in reality are hindering their goal greatly.
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>>58335376
>be a neckbeard in some big mansion somewhere with a gun collection
>bandits everywhere
>hear some old dude is hurt nearby
>go out with exceedingly large amounts of ammunition and supplies to "help"
>plan is actually just to shoot everything that moves (and a few things that don't move)
>get sniped instantly because people have been waiting for this precise moment to get to your gun collection

Bloodthirst is the answer. He wants a horde of skinwalkers to emerge from the treeline so he can mow them down, the other stuff is just a cover.
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>>58349711
I am completely normal and want to help :)
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>>58349672
Surely these people could join a militia who know what they are doing rather than trusting some dude on the internet to tell them what to spend hundreds of thousands of $ on.
Surely nobody is that silly. Right...? Right?!
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>>58346312
Penis size.
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>>58339919
>these are the kind of people who fantasize about capping a mass shooter in the middle of the act, not the delusional stooges actually carrying it out.
We are talking about zombie apocalypse. It's not capping single shooter. It's capping entire crowd of now so called "zombies" (who were normal people just yesterday). Do you catch my drift?
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>>58349849
You dont understand, you NEED to have a heckin based special forces operator loadout to walk a mile or YOU ARE GOING TO DIE. Use my code LARPFGT to get 10% off
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>>58341791
In store prices are cheaper.
>15 years
>4 people
Ambitious
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>>58332690
Not true. The most massive calves I ever saw were on this short, fat guy. Saw him at the supermarket yesterday. It was like he had rugby balls for calves. He must have been genetically blessed for calf muscle on top of his weight and lifestyle combining to make them beyond superhumanly large.
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>>58331141
I don't understand the "I have my rifle so I'm leaving my pistol at home" civilian larp I keep hearing these days. If you are a soldier in a unit with the whole army behind you then sure. If I were a retard and putting myself in this situation, openly armed, alone, covered in expensive gear, in a semi-permissive environment, surrounded by potential looters who now want your shit, I would want to be able to drop all that shit as a distraction for the chimps and book it out of there with a concealed pistol.
Honestly if I had to go save the retard poaching deer, I'd just dress like a poor normie. If you make yourself a target, you will get targeted. For example: rittenhouse incident, woman with expensive clothes and an expensive car getting purse snatched, mcmansions getting broken into, thieves boosting expensive cars, range goblins snatching daniel defense ar15s off the bench when people are putting up targets, etc.
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>>58331141
Boredom
The answer will always just be boredom
Think of all the retarded shit you daydream about when you're bored as shit but have to spend another several hours being bored just because you have to be there but there's nothing to do
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>>58332336
Trash is trash
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>>58335376
Sanest, least paranoid, most empathetic /k/ user
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>>58332049
>One (1) Mile away on foot
>Might be out here for 12 hours
He's accounting for most of his viewerbase being American
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>>58331169
Redpill me on your ESL usage of quotation marks
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>>58335465
Bro we're making fun of the video because he's dressed like he's going on a night-time doorkicking raid in 2004 Baghdad to help his injured geriatric neighbour who is a singular (1) mile away from him.
It's protagonist syndrome.
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>>58335465
If you're putting on NODs in the middle of the fucking day because your neighbor sprained his ankle and treat it like it's super serious, you deserve to be laughed at.
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>>58343285
Yeah. They need to cut that shit out. Citizens who are involved in self defense shootings never have to reload. This is why everyone laughs at demoralized larpers who think they need to carry pouches of magazines because Intel Slava Z says monke will issue a bat signal and cause TEOTWAKI and trump will get reinstated to save the white race, despite Russia being the AIDS capitol of the world. Guns are the one "hobby" that makes you a virgin by default.
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>>58350762
did you forget your meds
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>>58341661
The rest of the world already has unlimited access to antibiotics. Why shouldn't US citizens? Go fuck yourself.
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>>58348184
it was commented on
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>>58331141
>I'm at a loss here as to what drives these people.
Your entire response is the point. It's supposed to be fun figuring out logic puzzles.
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>>58336447
"zombies" was code for niggers chimping out you tourist. It was a real case of dog whistling.
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>>58338701
>shtf looting is extremely unlikely.
Ask people who went through katrina lol
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>>58352407
>"zombies" was code for niggers chimping out you tourist
No, it wasn't. This claim has always been revisionist history bullshit. Blacks rioting was off most people's radar for threats to prepare for until the riots in Ferguson in 2014, and by that point the zombie craze had already ran its course for the most part with gun manufacturers having discontinued their zombie related products during the lead up to the Sandy Hook shooting in 2012 or shortly after, same with reality TV series that portrayed people just having fun with guns like Top Shot.
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>>58335878
>Reaper drones
who wants to tell him
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>>58352407
>some pack of negros is somehow going to stumble into smol town america and steal these peoples shit
in shtf, your neighbor is your worst enemy
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>>58341972
>Tainter posting
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>>58332478
>calves don't develop
Probably because no one knows how to develop them properly.
Grab a dip belt, put on some weight, and do calf raises on some stairs with a hand on the railing for balance, with a 3-5 second pause in the bottom of the stretch with your heel below your toes.
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>>58353654
You'll have to tell me, sweetie. Reapers are still in the inventory.
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>>58355106
Reapers and the like are also limited by bad weather.
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>>58342708
NTA, and expired does not mean unusable. Most medicines maintain their efficacy for years down the line, especially if the containers remain unopened and are stored properly. https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/drug-expiration-dates-do-they-mean-anything
>>58336050
>VRE and MRSA in a non-clinical setting
Really nigga? Spend more on liquor and soap so you can sanitize and clean your shit. I would be more concerned with fungus if you run out of soap, then antiparasitic drugs if you plan to walk everywhere barefoot without nasty socks. Plus if you harvest your veggies after fertilizing with shit, you risk ingestion of disease if you can't wash them right. Prevention > cure. Also cuts and scrapes are much more serious in the poccylips if you can't clean them properly. Why prepare to be out of the fight for a week when you can prevent disease in a minute?
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>>58331649
Most of the artillery was privately owned and most of the naval forces were privateers.
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>>58331607
>51 suicides
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Are there any channels aimed at preppers that purposefully take the scenarios to a comical degree?

Like- you hear over your ham radio that your buddy found a female survivor of the apocalypse, and she’s a nymphomaniac, but she carries venereal diseases so you need to do some math to figure out how much penicillin you’re willing to waste on having a go with her vs. keeping that medicine for potential emergencies.

also, the nympho is a democrat so you just know she’s also jewish, so what do you do? are you willing to have sex with a george soros supporter in an end of the world scenario?
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>>58331286
jase case is a much better and safer way to get REAL antibiotics.
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>>58357679
I would love if someone with talent and exuberent funds could play with how stupid what they're doing is, and teach us all some usefull leasons along the way.
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>>58331176
>enhance their social position.
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>>58332299
>Everyone wants to be "The Guy you call"
Why? I don't want anyone calling me at all. Your problems are yours so don't make them mine faggot.
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>>58331141
Clearly you're the one up your own ass if you think that the USA will be free from inevitable society collapse



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