AK General /akg/Winter Supremacy Edition>Thread #1937Old Thread: >>58238771
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Consensus on Palmetto State Armory?
>>58276206Ignore the shills here; imports are still far superior.
>>58276140Last thread was so embarrassing, glad I could instead spend time with family. Hope everyone could do likewise or enjoy /k/ activities.
>>58276140Is no one gonna mention the fact that OP's pic has an VZ58, not AK??
>>58276288Need to post the alignment chart. Vz58 honorary while Galil is not. Valmet can stay.
>>58276206Unless you can get one ass cheap. No. They're ""usable"". But still have way too many hiccups especially at the GF5s price point to be even remotely excusable.I've gotten some good time behind a GF3 that belongs to a friend and everything is a significant downgrade to my Zpap. Everything feels cheaper, worse trigger, and epic PSA QC caveats come with it too ,his for example have a improperly threaded front sight, so the post will just walk up and down with recoil.GF5s are priced at the same point KUSA or ZPaps are. Which is a joke for the potential QC drop off, PSA has earned it's sussy reputation
Where can I find 10 round aluminum vz-58 mags?
>>58276371Or i forgot to mention, just spend a little more on a WBP Fox.I Do recommend Zpaps though, mines been great. 5500+ rounds in and the only malfunction was a bad round of wolf didn't fire once, despite plent of pokey from the firing pin. Heavier , but fun gun, great stock trigger. Mounting on Yugos is common now so the mounts and aftermarket parts are just as plentiful to do most anything you can do with other AKs you can do on yugos
What’s the general review on these besides barrels not being chrome line
>>58276327Bait?
here's my new M90 i just picked up on Friday for a whopping 700 dollars. Clean as shite. Haven't shot yet.
lolmayo we're never getting these again
>>58277932You got a great price, anon. Hopefully you can go shoot it soon. I have many AKs but my M90 is what I’ve been shooting most of the time recently.
>>58277951Probably not and when they are gone there will be a scramble for them and prices will jump. Just like the 104ur's.
>>58278230yeah it's real nice so far even though i haven't shot it. Furniture is nice. He sold it to me with 4 clear AC Unity mags as well, and i was surprised to see that they at least had reinforced lugs. I had already bought an old surplus Yugo grip for it in advance since i knew i was getting one regardless, but i just got lucky meeting up with him and only paying 700 dollars for a hardly used rifle. I will say though, MAG COMPATIBILITY has been a bitch already because the Zastava poly mag it came with doesn't even hardly fit, but i think the rear lug just needs a little filing. The cheaper AC Unity mags seem to fit better but they lock up pretty tight as well. I also had gotten a different AC Unity mag in preparation for the rifle and that one is probably the tightest of them all. I have to fucking jam the mag release lever down with both hands to get it out. All of these seem to just be because of the rear lug. How are the steel ones from Zastava? I was gonna get a couple of them.
>>58278467prices of everything will jump up. I know for a fact faggots will try selling the mini beryls for like 4000 dollars in 3 years and i would just hope that goobers out there wouldn't go for it.
>>58278594AC Unity and a circle 10s both work fine in mine. FB Radom mags are a little tight. None of that matters though because steel Zastava mags are the best and I don’t even bother using anything else in the M90.
>>58276140>least expensive 5.45x39 on ammoseek is $0.70/rdIt's really over bros, isn't it?
does anyone know if the beryl 5.56 will accept and retain a cleaning rod? i see the indent for it on the bayonet lug but i'm wondering if it would be too loose since the import beryls lack the accessory lug
>>58279535They were never made to have the cleaning rod on the rifle. It’s a two piece cleaning rod that’s stored in the mag pouch or somewhere else on the soldiers’s kit.
>>58276584I heard the barrels aren't chrome lined
>>58279344Hopefully once the war ends Ukraine will sell ass loads of surplus because they officially switch to 5.56.
>>58276584Chrome line is used for corrosion resistance but a modern nitride treated barrel is far superior
Why don’t more people rattle can their AK’s? I understand that you wouldn’t want to paint an actual antique/rare import but if you have a non-rare AK with no wooden furniture why not go for it?
>>58281671I really want to paint my arsenal, but am afraid I'll end up regretting it
>>58281774Same with my 104FR, although at some point I want to get it park'ed and finished in Russianpaint, same with my other 74 to match. Just gotta decide if I want the 104FR rebuilt on a recreator or childers because Arsenal/Kvar/etc is run by a Jewy Armenian that is actively malicious towards their employees and their customers.
>>58281808park and paint is the way. don't get me started on kvar, will never give them my business again. anyone know if a regular free-float firing pin will work in the arsenal bolts with spring-loaded firing pins? i need extras but the spring-loaded pins seem to be out of production
>>58281671pretty good paint job anon. I'm working on a tacticool m92. Forshore gonna paint it. Everything else I own is wood.
>>58276584I have the fixed stock one, good fit and finish although my lower handguards wood is pretty chewed up where it interfaces with the hand guard retainer and my bayo didnt fit. Apart from that it shot good and I don't really have any complaints about it.
>>58278594Steel Zastava mags fit up perfect and function just as good. They are excellent mags and well worth the price.>>58278230>>58277932You fucks are making it real hard for me to want to sell mine>beautiful fit and finish>accurate as fuck>pretty red wood>plentiful 5.56But>heavy>"too" pretty so Ibdont want to take her out and get her dirty like my Romy>no parts commonality with my other AKs>not an M90NP like I originally wanted
>>58281671because it looks like shit
>>58279687Nice rifle friend, but I am very concerned about exposing food to lead and other contaminants that guns have.
WASRchads wya
>>58284364I don’t have a WASR but this gets the job done too.
>>58284364I just love Romanian rifles bros
>>58281671ARG is over there if you want to paint your rifle.
>>58284364
>>58283691>>58284723ok boomer
>>58284919you have to put plastic on your gun, cuz its the current year!
MR 556’s worth it for first ar? Had a guy offer me a trade for one with the geissele handguard
>>58285247No recently someone posted something about battlefield vegas being mad that they spent money on MR556s and they don't last very long on full auto. A couple threads back when they were posting all the pics of the broken AR bolts from battlefieldvegas
>>58285263MR556s are slightly different, civilian versions of H&K416s. Hk416s are hugely overgassed by nature and consequently beat themselves to death. The piston system in them is beneficial if you need to do maritime warfare, but they shoot themselves to pieces in the long run. DI guns are superior in almost situations.
>>58285646>The piston system in them is beneficial if you need to do maritime warfarecan you explain why? I believe you I just want to learn
>>58285247>>58285263This one
>>58285663Sure, I'm no expert but my understanding is that if you're popping out of water with a DI rifle to take a shot immediately, then pressure will build up in the gas tube that is filled with water and the gun will explode. The same thing doesn't happen with piston designs. I remember a story about bank robbers filling a safe with water and using dynamite to blow it open because of the insane pressure explosions of any degree generate in a liquid.
>>58285727but melaninated are just as good
>>58285728thanks
>>58285728For my entire life until now I thought that maritime warfare meant peacetime warfare, like crime fighting only coast guard shit not actual war. Your post made me google it and now I know it means naval warfare
If I have a 5.56 AK, and shoot brass 5.56 and find brass shavings in the receiver, is that normal for AK or is that bad?
>>58286390it is if it's a PSA
>>58277932Congrats anon
>>58275287 Is it even possible to find 100 yards of flat ground in WV?
>>58278612The sad part is someone will buy them more than likely.
>>58286937thanks bro. Would post more pics but i'm not home rn
Hey guys, gay faggot here, What is this muzzle device? Saw it in some Cechan war footage. Can't remember which one nor the specific location.
>>58289536It appears to be a PKM Short muzzle device.
Has anyone here ordered from akstuff since their credit card processor went down?
>>58290515And received their order successfully I should add.
Even Tula ammo is above 42 cpr. Why even live, bros?
>>58290515>>58290535Many times. Good to go.
>>58292837Thanks, was just wondering if he was running into any issues shipping since it went down. Did you do money order?
>>58284364we here, winter, hiding in an abandoned shack edition
love winter
>>58293785>>58293767Winter is my #1 favorite, Summer is a close #2
>>58293026No, everything went smooth on his end. USPS lost my money order once and it took weeks to get a replacement. It was literally the last one of something rare and expensive, and he held it for me. Really good dude. Yeah, moneygram money order.
>>58292134the hopium that joe loses and we get our ammo back
>>58294489Never going to happen. The Russia ammo ban was before the war started. If you think that a Republican would reverse the policy you’re dreaming.
>>58294390That's primarily my concern. I trust the USPS about as far as I can throw them.
>>58294525It could happen *if* Putin is deposed and replaced by a pro-Western leader and pay a bunch of reparations to Ukraine. It's not likely though. More likely Russia will be forcefully demilitarized like Germany was after WW2.Note - I don't care one way or the other about Russia but they were the aggressor so if any punishment lasts after the war then they'd naturally be the recipient.
How difficult is to convert a bulgarian 74 kit to fire 5.56? Besides a new barrel and new bullet guide
>>58294566Absolutely not. Not unless an outrageously pro gun person is elected - which won't happen. Even then it will be likely blocked by the antis in congress and senate. They didn't ban the ammo because of Russia, they banned it because of us.
>>58294598I know they did, it was never because of the literal who journo who got poisoned.Yeah you're right though. The best example of this would be the ban on Chinese rifle, pistol, and ammunition imports. It was enacted back in what...1990? Does anyone alive today even remember why? Besides us in the AK community of course.
>>58276140That faggots barrel is plugged with fucking ice
>>58294598Yeah it was a low hanging fruit. A country that government and most of the public is hostile towards happened to export the largest amount of ammo to the US civilian market. They banned the importation knowing that nobody would give a rat’s ass except gun owners. Reversing the ban would be seen as a pro-Russia policy which no politician would do because there would be so much backlash. I personally don’t care about Russia or Ukraine and just want low ammo prices. Part of my job is to navigate all the sanctions and legally continue business in Russia. Western companies are happy to quietly keep selling products there.
>>58294787>>58294598>>58294566I'm hoping domestic or non-Russian 7.62x39 production picks back up. I don't give a shit about 5.54
>>582948707.62x39 will be fine in the long run. It’s produced in a lot of countries. All the usual suspects plus two separate Turkish manufacturers are now producing steel case.
>>58294870I give a shit about 5.45 anon.I need to get like...2 tins of it. That's probably all I'll ever shoot over the lifetime of owning my only 74. It's not my main rifle so I'm not hurting for it like I would be if 5.56 were in the same position
>>58294960If that’s all you need don’t wait around for prices to increase more. Grab a couple tins. Despite the price of commercial 5.45 on ammoseek, 7n6 is more reasonably priced. I’ve been picking it up from private sellers for 25-40 cpr for the past year.
>>58295101Yeah I see the prices for 7n6 rapidly climbing, I just know there are boomers with pallets of it though. But you're right. Nows the time.>tfw no 10 cpr 5.45 ever again
>>58295120No 10cpr anything ever again. 22LR may be the only exception.
>>58294960>I give a shit about 5.45 anon.I hear you anon and wish you the best. Like >>58295101 said you had better start buying now before it gets more expensive though
>>58294566>More likely Russia will be forcefully demilitarized I'm not a vatnigger but even if Russia pulls out of Ukraine and the invasion is a failure this will not happen
>>58294558Moneygram replaced my money order no questions asked, it just took a minute.
>>58289775Any reason why someone would put it on an AK?
>>58286424It is a PSA. It's bad or it's normal?
>>58297464really good flash hiding, maybe has night vision
These are on memorial day sale for $650 if anyone wants to try them out and report back to us, KUSA 101 is vaporware
>>58298200I’d consider it if PSA knocked another $350 off the price.
Anyone used K USA handguards? Specifically the faux Zenit?https://kalashnikov-usa.com/product/kalashnikov-usa-barwarus-alpha-rail/ >>58298200damn that is mystery meat cheap
>>58298806>Anyone used K USA handguards? Specifically the faux Zenit?No.
>>58277951What happened?
>ywn descend into a Soviet weapons storage salt mine as battle rages overhead, several hundred feet below ground in absolute silence and darkness as you explore and uncover secrets of the past.https://youtu.be/JF1XLX1xDSQ
>>58299433the huge price drop and they still can't get rid of them
>>58276584their receivers like to rust
>>58299484
>>58299495>>58299484Post video link nigger.
>>58299495>>58299484
>>58277951>Buying from Pollockese Jews who almost singlehandedly banned 7n6
>>58299497https://youtu.be/ApFT-pLcAXQ
>>58299505Yes
>>58283561Eh the older Century M90NP can be picky about what mags it likes too. You can buy some of spare parts from Zastava US directly. Id get a new M90 prob if ZAUS offered one in blonde woodWhat classic AK isnt fuck heavy?
>>58284364SAR1 big brother checking in
I have an M90 coming in soon, it's going to be my first AK. What would be a good slavshit optic to throw on it? I've heard that anything meant to mount to an SVD should work with a Yugo's rail, is that true?
>>58298057it's not normal, but it is for a PSA since they have garbage QCsend it back and make them fix it
>>58299687This is technically true,yeah, otherwise Yugo Handguards, Stocks and Side Rails are unique to Yugos. But much cheaper better options exist If money isn't an issue and you want it for the memes have at it. It's milsurp so you could get funky glass and something that won't zero/hold zero for the price of LPVOs sometimes. Unless you find it dirt cheap or got scammed with a fake airsoft oneLuckily there are plenty of good options now for modern optics. RS Regulate is the king of modularity and upper and lower options, and Zastava has their own proprietary Pic rail optic mount. RS will you get you the lowest possible sight mounting however the Zastava mount is still really good. I have and use both.
>>58299505>polish aks superior>5.56 superiorhm problem ?
>>58298524Very nice. How's the tone sound with 7.62x39? Hearing safe with subs? 5.45 isn't lmao
>>58300091Thanks. I'm aware that old slav optics are memes and that I would be much better off getting a modern western optic on it, but I do like the meme so I'm debating on what I should go with if I ever decide to put an optic on it.
>>58276140anybody have a sam7sf? do you think the length of pull would be comfy for manlet nobility (5’11”)?
>>58299433Without the correct modifications they're relegated to range toys.The "correct modifications" are expensive and time consuming. You need to unfuck the rear trunnion (that is welded in btw), unfuck the muzzle device, then get a good boy tax stamp for a stock.Finally, even with the correct modifications, they're shooting 5.56 out of a...8.5"? barrel, so it's shit for ballistics.Honestly if it had a 10.3" or 11.5" barrel it would be 100% better. Not without issues but massively better.
>>58300408Too bad truck guns aren’t legal in the states around me or that thing would be such a vibe
>>58299505The fuck are you talk8ng about?
>>58300377Go to the gun store and fondle one, finger bang it.
>>58300320I would say it is right on the edge of hearing safe with subsonic 7.62x39. I find it still sounds pretty good on a 16" 5.45x39.
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This is a retarded question, but if someone pulls the brace off their AK pistol, can they sell the pistol off
>>58276140Anyone know what camo pattern this is?
>>58303604yea thats fine
>>58298806Oh shit those are legitimately zenitco clones huh
>>583004089.3" barrel actually. The muzzle device is actually pretty easy to remove: it's not even welded. You just tap out a roll pin. Although there isn't any point since there's almost no aftermarket that supports the Mini Beryl barrel length (besides like 1 jmac brake)
should I sell my ZPAP92 now that I had to take the brace off? is anyone even going to buy that shit?
>>58304822If you don’t want to file a form 1 and put a stock on, you might as well sell it. Someone will buy it if it’s priced well enough.
>>58304993>file a form 1Only an idiot would do this.
>>58305240Elaborate
>>58305362>Hey ATF, I have an illegal NFA item and I'm going to hand deliver this information to you!
>>58305490I don’t disagree with you regarding the amnesty form 1s. There’s no need to mention the brace at all. It never existed. Toss it in the trash and file a regular tax paid $200 form 1 to manufacture an sbr out of a currently legal pistol.
>>58298472Beggar, do not choose.
>>58300091>Zastava has their own proprietary Pic rail optic mountiirc it's actually made by another company and they just slap their logo on it. that said, I own one and it seems to be good quality. unsure how well it holds zero as I've never bothered mounting it
>>58304822yes people would buy it without a brace. Why dafuq wouldn't they
I fucking hate geese shitting in my yard
>>58303607that's flat black, anon
>>58305240>>58305362Another issue is NFAing something, especially an SBR essentially has no resale value because your taking it off the general market and most guys SBRing now are just doing their own since theres a huge discrepency between Form1 and Form4 wait times AND aparently you as the seller would have to pay a 2nd $200 when transfering it to another owner's FFL
>>58305757That piece of shit isn’t worth $650, let alone $1k.
Been wanting to get my hands on a Dragunov for literal ages. Would a Romanian PSL be a close enough approximation or are they nothing alike performance wise?
>>58300377comfy (i'm 6'0 on a good day) but not worth 2k>>58307556depends on how you define 'close enough'. It looks kind of similar to someone who has no idea what it is, but it's just a big ak and that's reflective in its performance. they're also stupidly expensive for what you get, and i'd take 1 FEG dragunov over 3 PSL's any day
>>58307556the psl sucks. do your research.
>>58306746How restrictive is form 1 ?
>>58306746>>58305923>>58305528>>58305490>>58305362>>58305240>>58304993>>58304822What if you just weld a barrel extension to make the barrel 16" and the bullpup it? The "final ruling" thing says that the pistol barrel must be 'replaced' with a 16" barrel but all other rulings say you can convert a pistol to a rifle with no paperwork
Does this thing just get hammered into the receiver and subsequently it has to be hammered out?
>>58308435Forgot to mention - jmac stamped receiver buffer tube adapter.
>>58308435Should slide in, if it is a tight fit may require a tap with a rubber mallet. It will stay secure using the tang.
>>58308475Thanks, I'm trying to knock it out to replace with something so I just wanted to verify. Appreciate it.
Does anyone recognize this marking/manufacturer? Looks like a 6
>>58308392You can convert it back into a pistol with a letter to atf and removing the stock, but your engraving will always be there.
>>58310554Looks like markings from the ligma factory in Nutzak.
>>58284355I appreciate your concern fren. However the fears over elemental lead are very much overblown. I still bite sinkers onto my fishing line.
>>58284851Is that a kusa drum? Has it given you any problems? Been wanting to pick one up.
>>58311578>KUSA drumThey dont actually produce their own drum mags do they? Just like they dont actually produce their ammo but still call it KUSA 7.62?
>>58307556If you can get one with a scope for 2k or less, it does fill the dragunov cope void, at least for me.
>>58311823>If you can get one with a scope for 2k or lessWhere? Gunbroker has them for like 2.5k. The parts kits with no barrel go for like 1.5k plus a $600 receiver.
Obligatory
>>58311823>>58311834Don't bother looking for one with the LPS scope. Get one without it and buy your own POSP or PSO, both are better than the LPS because they have illuminated reticles whereas the LPS doesn't.
>>58311990>LPSIs that the civie hunting one? My dad has a AWB perioidish Romak 3 and the scope has width based range estimation scope for deer or some shit. What kind of scope do they typically ship with in 2023?
>>58312147I drew the reticle from memory because I havent seen it in 3 or 4 years
>>58312164>>58312147The word I was looking for was Stadiametric. Instead of tanks it was meant for deer or elk or some shit
Bought this Rommy top loader for $60 in a pawn shop
>>58311779based K-VAR bullpup enjoyer
>>58312447>RomyNot Romanian.
Form 1 came back finally. 103 days. It lives with my AKs. Can finally start running local competitions with it. Just in time for a 5k.
>>58312863Don't you dare call me a KVAR enjoyer. KikeVAR can suck my cock. I hope someone firebombs them. Someone should do something bad to Arsenal too.
>>58312147>>58312164>>58312404You're on the right track but what I meant was that they're almost identical except for the illumination. In this picture, the middle scope is the LPS and the top and bottom are PSO variants. You can see the battery compartments on them as well. I believe the LPS has a tritium insert in lieu of the LED bulb but as you know tritium has a shelf life.There are a ton of different reticles though, heres a link if you're interested in seeing the differences. The page is in Russian but Chrome's built in translator does fine.https://en.zenit-belomo.by/produkciya/pricely/Additional info (not my pictures, credit to the owner)https://imgur.com/a/NzZwj
>>58313033Just because I like the way it looks. Scope is a BelOMO POSP 4x24 with 54r BDC.
>>58312962Based, while its not an AK I have a soft spot for Brens. They're fuckin dope. I'd love one in 5.56 but it'll have to wait.Good luck with your competitions and race anon. I just did my first run in ages earlier today.
Thinking about picking up a WBP Jack next month as my first AK, any reason to get something else instead? Also any suggestions on mags to get or other accessories(sling)?What sidearm do you guys like to larp with? I was thinking about getting a CZ75 or 941 to pair with it.
>>58314040>WBP Jack next month as my first AK, any reason to get something else instead?Only reason to get something else would be if you wanted to spend less money but that's up to you>Also any suggestions on mags to get or other accessories(sling)You could get surplus of all of that if you are keeping it classic, bulgarian polymer mags are also a good cheap option to get more mags
>Requires removal of tang
Are these safe to shoot? I was testing a 30 round mag in an zpap m90 that I had been fucking around with to get it to feed correctly. I ran 30 rounds through it by racking the charging handle over and over until it was dry, to see if it would have any issues (can't get to a range atm). The mag fed fine, but the rounds have dents in them at the base of where it starts to form the neck. Are these safe to shoot?
>>58317191only 1 way 2 find out :)
What is the word on CW Gunwerks down in Miami?One of their builds is listed locally for sale and I keep staring at it.. 1970's Romanian
>>58317690stamped uf stocks have no place on a 1970's romanian lol. Here's my wasr 10/63 on a 1970 stamped md65 parts kit. All of the parts are serial matching to the bolt besides the safety (which was replaced with a semi auto only safety). Those old romanian md63's and md65's are fucking great guns. I have flipped over 10k rounds in this feller about 3 or 4 months ago. You literally couldn't go wrong buying a well made build. It just makes me feel weird seeing an old md65 with a straight stamped uf stock!
>>58317690another example of the stock but extended. usually they have a milled canted downward uf stock. I'll see if I can find the feller charging down ceausescu's guard with one
>>58317690yeah here's a fella about to make good communists with one. Notice the milled folded stock. interesting choice on the builders to use a stamped one. I wonder if it's a hungarian stock desu.
how come the 104 doesn't get any love?
>>58276206well they did just send a cease and desist to AKQualityEnforcement on Instagram for covering issues with their 55gr 5.56 and new AKM101/74 releases. So fuck em.-former shill
>>58317837>>58317877>>58317901I see what your saying.This is from the listing "1970s ROMANIAN parts kit. Using a Hungarian under folder. Russian handguard. Polish “fatty” grip."
>>58317950cant buy them anymore, ammo expensive, old fags not shooting them if they dont have stacks of 7n6everyone knows they are great tho
>>58318911I think he was talking about the 100-series AK104 not the Arsenal SLR-104FR (AKS-74). An FFL gave me a ton of shit about the barrel length on my 104FR because he was convinced that the “104 is an SBR” when clearly this rifle has a 16” barrel.
>>58318947yeah. im trying to decide between a zpap92 or pic related
>>58319022Don’t buy the factory sbr unless you want to wait for a year. Get the KP104 and make it an sbr yourself. I had an early Kr103 and it was a pretty nice rifle. I sold it but not because it was bad in any way. I have an M92 that I had made into an underfolder that I really enjoy too. Most people will say buy an import first over a domestic AK. Either one would probably be good.
Can I use HK style hooks on an AK or am I gonna damage the sling mount ?
Leaf here.I'm making a Kachin k-10 clone. Will post pictures in coming weeks. Waiting on the handguard to finish manufacturingThat is all.
>>58319380sus
>>58312447dude that's a Molot, not a Romy. You scored a Russian RPK drum for like 1/8 the price most places will sell 'em
>>58317901It looks like he has a loose grip.Any semi auto firearm, from AK to pistol to any semi auto, can be bump fired.Use your offhand that grips the stock, and pull the gun forward against your finger. It will recoil and as long as you keep pulling forward, it will keep firing. Sometimes even faster than full auto.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RdAhTxyP64Watch out before the ATF bans your hands lmaoThis is a real skill that allows you to shoot very fast
Ignore the three non-AK guns, didn't have a pic with just the AKs. From top to bottom, left to right, Century AK63DS kit build (one of their few that doesn't suck chode, has Hungarian trunnion and BCG), Riley RAK47 (again, forged trunnion and BCG), and a KUSA KP9 with an early serial (before QC issues)
>>58319597Should mention, the factory grip on the Riley was a black poly, replaced with Romanian bakelite. The factory wood was nice, but they fitted the stock flush to the receiver instead of leaving a gap, causing it to crack, so I replaced with Polish wood from WBP.
>>58319597The top three could benefit from optics, and each one can load SLAP or AP for body armor.Consider laser sights as well as high capacity magazines with bipods. None of these things are necessary, but they make your weapons more effective. IR lasers can only be seen with NVG, even cheap ones with cheap goggles.
why did jannies delete my pic
>>58319633With a high capacity magazine, optics, and bipod, it is an improvised light machine gun.With a variable scope and a suppressor, it is a precision rifle, which can even accept a thermal clip-on for night vision. You can just use moonlight or natural night vision if you have a thermal scope.If you do not have NVG, to move in the cover of night under the full shine of the moon is a form of tactical cover.
>>58319633Hungarian one has no optic rail, and I'm keeping that one as a purely historic piece, since I love the Hungarian aesthetic. Mosin is an original '41 Izhevsk, so I'm leaving her as-is/ The Riley I'm looking into getting a Kobra red dot, or some similar AK side mounting one. Ideally one that would give me a cowitness for the irons, should the batteries die, but those are harder to find. I do plan on eventually getting another AK to zenitfuck fully, but not for a bit.
>>58319235I would say it should be fine, the russian slings spring steel is no slouch and if that doesnt gouge the shit out of it a fucking rounder piece of metal should be fine.
>>58319653>>58319633>>58319588dude, none of this shit is new and you're talking out of your ass. Stop with the fuckin reddit spacing. You're not breaking new ground here. You just sound like a noguns. lurk more.
Were down an anon
>>58319876>Bullets in a plastic bagNow that's abnormal. Only time I've ever seen this was a video of a police woman having to reload mid shootout.
>>58317690CW Gunwerks is verifiably good to go. They're probably one of the best builders in the country.Next question is how much are they asking for the rifle?
>tfw finally got an OG barrel M76
>>58319807I was wondering how long it would take before someone told him to shut the fuck up.. lol
>>58319876no self respecting /akg/ autist would be caught dead with that many Magpul AK mags. >>58319944I put mine in a plastic bag sometimes
>>58319977it was starting to get a bit old. It's like every 14 year old who plays CoD thinks that guns work like in vidya, where you just gotta add aTtAcHmEnTs to get extra points. Force multipliers are nice, but telling someone to randomly add bipods and shit to wooden-furnitured AKs just screams "I am a child who doesn't understand how soviet-arms optic/accessories mounting works at all." Not to mention casually telling the guy to scope what is presumably a non-sniper Mosin Nagant. Like, what, is the suggester going to help him fucking drill and tap his receivers? Fucking noguns i s2g lmfao
>>58319969nice, a kit or a completed rifle?
>>58320112I guarantee he only said what he did about AtTaChMeNtS because I have a fucking dot on my Vityaz.
>>58320546He doesn't knlw real life is not like call of duty. 5 attachments bro!
>>58320546which is absolutely forgiveable because the sight radius on those is smol af
>>58319876>heading to the CIA
>>58320006>I put mine in a plastic bag sometimeson your way to go commit a crime?
>>58320006Or a VSKA.
>>58321567Probably>>58321591That too
>>58321591Lol for real.
>>58319876i've met at least half a dozen people that had 7.62x39 in their trunk but they didn't own an AK, it makes me wonder
>>58319588pretty sure the gun in pic related is an actual machine gun
>>58276140So who's ready for AoA to dump their Mini Beryls at a loss for $799 on Memorial day?
>>58322878$600 and I'll bite.
Anyone ever use a Browe BTO? Was thinking about trying one since I’ve been clamoring for a TA02 equivalent with the 7.62x39 bdc. Wish they weren’t as expensive as acogs though
Last weekend I shot in a pretty big AK match. There were something like 140 competitors. I'd say that the most popular pattern of AKs were Yugo and PSA, mostly in 7.62.In my squad there were two ZPAP 92s (including mine and my brother's), a couple of ZPAP 5.56 guns, at least 5 PSAKs, a couple of Galil Aces, and iirc a SAM7. There were a couple of other AKs that I didn't take a close look at. The only gun that choked was the 5.45 Galil Ace, and it was shaving metal off of the casings. Admittedly, IWI is apparently resolving the problem.LARP matches are tons of fun and even a cheaper AK like a Yugo or a PSA is totally gtg to get you started. Go out and have some fun, kings.
>>58324261That's fucking awesome anon. What state?
>>58324261Nice anon
>>58324413Missouri. Kalashnikon is the event but there are other ones in Wisconsin and Illinois that I know about.. Wherever you are there's probably a match not too far away.
>>58324544Thanks, I'm up in WA so probably fewer here. Looks like a blast though.
>>58324648Check practiscore, I'm sure there is something worth doing within a few hours of you. I'd strongly encourage anyone to just show up. 2 gun matches are very friendly and low pressure.
Thought I would like the rear biased master mount rail more, and that's not to say that it's that bad. I think I want the full sized master mount rail so I can maybe put either a magnifier with the xps2 or switch to an LPVO 1-6x.
Should I get a 556 ak instead of 762?
>>58324261m92 bros cant stop winning, nice aems
I wish I had bought a Saiga 104 when they were still available
>>58324544>Missourihope you had all your shit treated with permethrin
>>58324875M92chads...
>>58284463Based FEG enjoyer
If Valmets are AKs, then Galils are AKsIf Galils aren't AKs, then Valmets aren't AKs.
>>58299489nothing a nice coat of lithium grease can't fix
>>58319958Yeah I did some looking around and they have really good feedback everywhere1500 think I'm going to pick it up on friday if it is still posted
>>58324804Is that the B-31s top rail? I only just learned that you need this if you want to eventually have a combo gas block ;__;
>>58325422Now you're getting it
>See a Maadi for sale>Decent price>Want to get it but gut feeling is telling me something isn't right
>>58324924I inject opossum adrenachrome directly into my jugular before every LARP so ticks know to fear me.
>>58328282you only live once anon send it, if it's shit double the price and put it on armslist
>>58319633>and each one can load SLAP or AP for body armor.keked at this one
>>58319588>>58319633>>58319653go back to r/ak47
Fudd here looking to pick up an AK because I want one. Is the ZPAPM70 a solid choice?
>>58328282Steyr? Get itMISR10? Meh, if it's cheap enough.MISR90? Run away.
>>58329319I'd prefer a WASR for slightly cheaper or a WBP Jack for slightly more. If you're getting an AK because you just want an AK then it makes sense to get the "default" layout of an AK as opposed to a variant.That being said, a ZPAP is a quality rifle. It's just not an AKM
>>58329442I saw that it was stamped with 1.5mm thick steel while others were in 1mm thick steel and I like heavy things. Whats better about the WBP Jack?
>>58329479Yeah the receiver thickness is one of the defining characteristics of a Yugo pattern vs AKM.The Jack is a Polish rifle and people seem to really like them. I have a WASR so I can't speak to the Jack, but people say the fit and finish is much nicer than a WASR. I'd agree with that. They're painted whereas a WASR is only parkerized, I prefer the look of paint more so I painted my own. Anyway, just general quality type things. They're gonna shoot the same. Basically all imported AKs will.
>>58329479True AKM pattern, not the Yugoslavian M70 pattern (makes it so that its easier to replace furniture, get replacement internal parts, etc)Supposed to have better quality (cant speak for this as i own neither)
>>58329571The aftermarket is completely saturated with Yugo parts now. What are you talking about?
>>58329683Old info might still say that it's harder to find which was true before ZastavaUSA took over imports for them from Century
>>58328282Here's the Maadi I found, intrac. It's $2200. Should I go for it?
>>58331265I'd probably get something different for that much money. idk your situation though
>>58329479the zastava is more likely to have cosmetic defects but the wbp is more likely to have trigger slap and overgassing. for me, real military factory is the winner every time
>>58331354What would you recommend? I've read through the buyers guides but a lot of stuff is just an information overload for me
>>58329683But they ugly
>>58331265>intrac Maadi>$2.2kThe seller is smoking crack. That rifle is worth half of that at most.Steyr imported Maadis are pretty close to that price though.
Thoughts on this?https://centerfiresystems.com/product/zpap92-pistol-7.62x39-serb-red?utm_source=Centerfire+Systems&utm_campaign=f555b7c021-052523-memorial-weekend-savings&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a17d16ad3c-f555b7c021-129823167&mc_cid=f555b7c021&mc_eid=bec95a2d78#product_detail
>>58276584I too have had one of the fixed stock versions for several years now, and like it a lot. Though I've since added an adjustable gas piston since it was very overgassed
>>58319338Sounds like a cool project, say hello to t97_th0t
bought a psa gf3 blem as my first ak. its not my first gun i actually feel like a hazgunz now. ima cry
>>58331422For that much, I'd look for a parts kit build. Century has a good Hungarian kit build on both milled and stamped receivers, see my post >>58319597 Tbh whatever you get just make sure the bolt, bolt carrier, and front trunnion are cast. Make sure the front trunnion is properly headspaced, and you should be fine. Pioneer has started using forged parts, Riley uses forged parts, and every currently made PSA uses forged parts. That's for the low end of "entry level" ak's, should run about the $600 to $900 range.
>>58331422WBP Fox or Jack if you don't want info overload and don't want to be disappointed with anything
>>58331963About market price, if you want to have a gunsmith drill out the holes for the underfolder trunnion it has, send it. Otherwise, it's a bit on the bulkier side for a 7.62x39 pistol.
>>58308410If you're going down that route, may I suggesthttps://www.apexgunparts.com/ak-flash-hider-5inch-nos.htmlfor your barrel extension?
>>58332755You meant to say WASR it's okay everyone makes mistakes sometimes. Just don't let it happen again
>>58319338neat
>>58333331I almost said that because it's also a great choice but just in case anon is the type that would have his jimmies rustled by his gun coming pre-scratched I said WBP
Finally got an air shit cheek riser for the tabuk buttstock. I kinda wanna fuck my m90 bros.
>>58329257this faggot is all over /k/ today. I hate underaged reddit faggots so FUCKING MUCH
>>58332451>t97_thotDon't even bring that shit, here, man. Trust me that stinky bitch and her troglodyte followers ruined one general, don't let them fuck up another
>>58298806i have. screws are cheap and poorly made.
>>58276584Morrissey receivers are shit and don’t have the correct markings or spot weld dimples. Or even the correct selector markings. Barrel isn’t chrome lined. And Atlantic is a mediocre builder. I bought two builds from them and both of them and both have been canted.
>>58313004Arsenal Inc and Kike-Var are owned by the same kike owner
>>58319876VSKA and P-Mags. Lmao.
>>58331417My WBP didn’t have any trigger slap. And it’s not as overgassed as a WASR. The ZPAP just feels less overgassed because it’s a beefier heavier rifle which absorbs more recoil.
>>58332667>PSAStill a nogunz in this thread
>>58335326Same here. My WBP Fox came perfectly gassed but my 2018 GP WASR 10 was severely overgassed, I fixed it with a stronger alg recoil spring though. Neither had trigger slap
These didn’t sell out as fast as the Izhmash InRange built rifles. Why is that?https://atlanticfirearms.com/tula-akm-rifle
>>58335756https://atlanticfirearms.com/russian-izhevsk-akm-rifle
>>58335756>>58335760not many people want to pay $2300 for a rifle that has a few russian parts but the receiver and barrel and more parts are US made built by a relatively new builder
>>58335807sorry I made an error, the barrels aren't US made they're Polish, which are good but still not Russian and not Tula so it's a mix of Russian, US made and Polish parts
>>58335807Few Russian parts? You mean all the important components like the two trunnions, bolt, bolt carrier, furniture/stock set, and front and rear sight block?
>>58335865Sorry Atlantic that's not worth $2300 to me, give us a memorial day sale of $1500 and I'll consider
>>58335756Because the other one was a better build with nicer furniture and they used the correct paint (Intilmilco) whereas this one has "Teflon" whatever that implies.
>>58335932Don't forget it was also cheaper
>>58335932Nicer furniture? They both have Russian surplus, no? Is Izhmash furniture nicer than tula?
>>58335932Wouldn’t the Teflon be way more durable and corrosion resistant than the Russian paint?
>>58336019it's not as correct to the build, which is what matters to the type of people that spend $2300 on it
>>58336062Correct to the build? Only people with autism will notice. You still get a rifle with Russian Tula guts, a chrome lined barrel, and surplus Russian furniture that will be a cool piece in a collection.
>>58335950That too. It was unreal, I would have tried to get it had I not just paid for a gun a day before.>>58335953Its subjective but I felt the other one has nicer furniture.>>58336019>>58336062>>58336086Correct, only people with autism would notice. But if I'm dropping $2,300 on a clone-correct build then I had better be getting as close to clone correct as it gets.
>>58336086Ok, then...buy it? No one here is stopping you. I'm not sure what the point of your posts is. You're disappointed that something isn't sold out yet? Why? Are you trying to get anons to buy more? Did you already buy one a while ago and want to see it say "SOLD OUT" to feel like you got something special?>Only people with autism will noticeNow you're getting it. That's why they haven't sold them yet.
>>58336124Are you trying to say AK owners have autism?
>>58336137AK owners who are seriously considering spending $2300 on an AKM are true connoisseurs. Yes, they have AK autism, and every little thing is important to them. Not just>its got some kind of decent barrel from one country>some kind of decent receiver from another country>and the other parts from RussiaDo you understand yet? What's the point of your posts?
>>58336156>What's the point of your posts?I guess just trying to find out why one Russian kit build rifle sold quick and the other one didn’t. But I guess I found out it is just due to autism.
>>58336188yeah pretty much, also the other one was cheaper so that helped it sell faster
>>58336204I think they increased the price because Tula kits are rarer than Izzy kits and thus more desirable by collectors. But I guess those same collectors want a clone correct rifle. I was also checking the AKFiles and some user posted that the XY embossments are supposed to be squared on Tula AKM’s but on these Childers receivers they are rounded like Izhmash. You autists are incredible.
>>58336268I'm not sure which group is more autistic: AK nerds or classic car boomers
>>58336268>they didn't use a recreator blank Tula receiver.Disgusting.
>>58318057No shit?
>>58335756Economy slowing?
>>58328282Trust you gut anon
>>58328387Wow
>>58277932Nice photo
>>58276378This meme always amuses
>>58277932Seems cheap??? Surprised it isn't 2x the price
>>58277951What hapepenrd to the neeer models? Going to the war instead?
>>58278230Kino photo
New thread:>>58336700>>58336700>>58336700
>>58276691this has to be bait
>>58285727NTA but thank you
>>58289187Safe travels home and in all your adventures
>>58293785Neat kit and writing pad
>>58292134It's clear that inflation is skyrocketing and will continue to do so. Even 556, .22 long will climb now that dirt cheap former Soviet country x39 isn't there to push prices down
>>58276415I love my M70
>>58285212All my niggas hate plastic SHIT
>>58336376Literally me and my dad respectively. He’s more autistic by a long shot and can identify the exact model and year of a car just by glancing at it and seeing something subtle like the tail light shape.
>>58277932Did the person who sold it you never use the internet before?
