Thug Shaker EditionPrevious >>58195557 Lying about medical record: GOOD (YMMV)Lying about criminal record: BAD>Resources:>Before you ask a question, check the FAQpastebin.com/Rx0nDuga>Free ASVAB Practice Testswww.asvabpracticetests.com/>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)pastebin.com/yg972vRE (Short version)pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (40 page version)>Special Forces Fitness Guidespecialforcesrecruiter.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/THOR3-10-Week-Program.pdfwww.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps).>www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.phpFor all Army SF info.>www.airwarriors.com/community/>mega.nz/folder/ZQhQDLQA#SrCZyqNQiomnG4DsTzcNMgNaval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS, as well study guides for ASTB-E>bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance>Info on sf86www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothingpastebin.com/yGzadpNZ>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classesCLEP/DSST information:dantes.doded.mil/EducationPrograms/get-credit/creditexam.html>What is MHS GENESIS?www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIScalmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal
People still want to enlist?
>>58223568I can't get over how someone so attractive could be so disloyal to his country>>58223691Only out of financial desperation
Currently sitting in a hotel waiting for MEPs, can't wait to get molested by MEPs doctors tomorrow.
>>58223707that's an average 21 year old guy and your whole premise is weird as fuck
>>58223719Don't you have to have to wake up and be ready by 4am?
>>58223738>average 21 year old guyNah, the average young male is chubby, unshaven, an incel, incapable of having a normal conversation, ultra-awkward, mean without cause, ugly by choice, with a stupid haircut, low-IQ, and with poorly maintained skin riddled with acne.
>>58223691Enlist? No. Comission? Yes.
>>582237393:45 but I'm not asleep yet because I'm waiting in the CMS room.
>>58223707>Only out of financial desperationIf it's just for money you'd be better off in a trade. It sounds like boomer shit but if I was just out of high school I'd find a successful local business man with a company not so big that he's inaccessible, but not so small that it'll go nowhere. Learn about him, go down and bring a box of doughnuts and tell him you specifically wanted to work for him and his company. If they turn you away keep showing up early in the morning for a few days until they hire you or threaten to trespass you. If you're older this won't work, but if you're under 22 you could pull it off. Show the guy you'll work like a slave and be a knowledge sponge someone will take you and impart knowledge. Just make sure you go to work for someone competent.>>58223784Unless you have a worthless degree it's probably not worth it, but it's still a lot better than enlisted.
>>58224275How is it now worth it? Going reserve and deploying every couple of years sounds bretty fun.
>>58224369It sounds fun until you realize the whole 1 weekend a month+2 weeks is out the window.
>>58224517>whole 1 weekend a month+2 weeks
>>58224369>ReserveEven less worth it. If you just want to do some cool stuff I get it, but you might as well do a few years active duty and be done with it. It'll be fun while you're young and single. If you get married and have kids one weekend a month and two weeks a year is just going to be a pain in the ass when you have a day job. Getting deployed won't be "bretty fun" with a family back home. At best it will strain your relationship, at worst you'll come home to your kids telling you all about their new "uncles". Your real career will suffer as well. People don't want to hire someone who has other commitments like that, and if you're serious about your non-military career then the reserves are just going to hold you back. Careers cause enough problems enough problems for marriages without getting shipped off to some shit hole for 9 months.
>>58224691I have a day job and a degree that gets me a direct comission. Honestly mil sounds less miserable than what I do at the moment since civilian life is pretty boring. Plus I probably won't get married so that doesn't matter to me.
>>58224783>probably won't get marriedJust go active then and don't blue ball yourself. Might even be better off financially when you factor in housing and transportation. Most people want families, even if they don't realize it yet. I just don't want to see young anons make mistakes with near decade commitments. Always easier not to step in shit then to clean shit off your shoe. Only you know how badly you want it, so I wish you all the best.
>>58223568Retired with over 20 years. The memes are real. AMA.
>>58224868Would you do it again?
>>58224369>deploying every couple of yearsboy do I have news for you
I'm 27 with a BS in physics (3.552 gpa) in Pennsylvania, but no pilot's license. Do I have a shot at being a fighter jock in the Natty G?
>>58223568He makes a nice femboy. After that FaceApp fix. I hope he has a 20 year old sister that looks like a natural rule 63 version of him.
>>58224918Yes, but, would do a lot of things differently. I just didn't know. That is why I want to help the new guys.
>>58223568Is it worth it to join the french foreign? From what I read most who show up get kicked out for clear reasons like drug still in there system or simply not wanting it
>>58225026I knew one guy who joined the 82nd after the French Foreign Legion. We were talking about how cool the Foreign Legion was. He said, "What, you don't think they do police call in the Foreign Legion?"
Asked this a thread or two ago but asking again for some more input. Can I join the Air Force if I walk and stand on my toes? It doesn't impact my physical abilities at all beyond not being able to stand flat footed, I can run, jump, swim, climb with the best of them. Maybe I need a waiver or something? I couldn't learn shit about this on the internet or from asking the recruiter.>inb4 walks on toes because of autism
>>58225020What was your best and worst decision?
>>58224939How so?>>58224849I am. But need a specific experience or I'll get cucked on job.
>>58225092Best: going into Special Operations.Worst: not doing it earlier.
>>58225100Guard/Reserve deploy a lot more than they used to. Your weekend drills will likely be 3-4 days a lot of the time, your 2 week AT will often be longer. In many ways Guard/Reserves is the worst of both worlds. You will likely be deployed just as much if not more than if you just went active. You will get a fraction of the benefits. They will put you on 29 day orders to avoid paying you BAH and other benefits you're entitled to. Guard have the extra cuck responsibilities of being beholden to a governor who may activate you for political larping and other nonsense.
>>58225051Yeah I heard there lots of beats too
>>58223568I was in a server with this guyIs my clearance getting revoked?I’ve been posting “classified” documents on discord for the past 5 yearsThanks
So people are saying standards to join are getting lower and lower given this information what is the easiest branch to join from a physical and academic stand point?
As a civilian how can I attract a military female?
>>58225960Academy requirements are the same for all branches except the Coast Guard right now. Realistically you can walk into basically any recruiters officer and get shipped in 2 months if you weren't obese and retarded. Navy or Army are probably the easiest though
>>58224849Aint WOFT applicants in for like 10 years minimum? adding up to roughly 12-12.5yrs with training?
>>58223783This but also youth is wasted on the young and all that. Any news on his status? >>58225964No. Stay away. Military females are the worst of all worlds.
>>58225964Just make sure she's cis female Im sure you dont want an military trap like Army Infantry woman Corporal Ketchum. Oh wait sec British and Serbian armies also have traps.
>>58226032If I make a mainland Chinese woman diseased bat soup will she spread her trout cavern for me to spawn more mongaloid halfbreeds
Not sure I see the point in enlisting right now. I mean, all those faggots need to do is defend the US constitution, and unless they are planning on holding the US president responsible for his actions, nothing is going to happen, and nobody is going to give a shit. I mean, everyone that serves utters an oath to protect the Constitution of the USA, and nothing else. BLM could burn, loot, and murder, and no member of the US military is obligated in any real sense to defend their family members from that.
>>58226068LMAO Why do I get the feeling that mainland Chinese women sure love that white European colonizer cock LOL. Its like the giving up their pussy than a South Korean and Japanese girls to US servicemen, or fuck even the South Vietnamese ladies still got paid for it. But dang Mainland chinese give it up for free, even Taiwanese bargirls got paid for their services. China and Vietnam commie loyalist always talk shit about Taiwan, S Korea, and Japan as dogs, puppets, and colonies of America at the same time, there sure are a lot of old fat white digusting men sex patting in communist party ruled Vietnam and Mainland China.
>>58226142One would think that since we have an open invasion on the border the Marines and Army would be foaming at the mouth to defend the country. They are nowhere to be found.
>>58226164>One would think that since we have an open invasion on the border the Marines and Army would be foaming at the mouth to defend the country. They are nowhere to be found.Again, they swore an oath to defend the Constitution of the USA. The enlistment oath says nothing about defending American citizens. Top fucking kek
>>58226177Kek indeed. What a massive joke the military is.
>>58223784>Comission? Yes.how do you feel about glowniggas running coups like in 2014? you go around organising revolutions and then cry about invasion when someone actually hits back
>>58226194>Kek indeed. What a massive joke the military is.Would you enlist if you required to state that you were willing to fight and die to protect your family and countrymen?
>>58226214Enlist? noCommission yes. In fact, I am waiting on my MEPs date for Navy Reserve commission.
>>58226200Shit if I could like that could as a trap I be having fun chasing lesbians. And scream your transphobic when they see my dick. Tell the lesbian this is my orgranic built in dildo. why does he look better than Lia Thomas and Rachel Levine? hes only using make up and not on whore moans.
>>58226236>Commission yes. In fact, I am waiting on my MEPs date for Navy Reserve commission.Okay. I was enlisted, and I know there is an extremely limited amount of advice that you will accept from one of my kind, but...: 1. It's okay to ask for help, but it's generally recommended to ask the highest ranking enlisted person first, unless you are in a situation where you are required to depend on the most experienced person first. 2. Nobody cares about your rank if you demonstrate a willingness to toss us in the meat grinder. We will do the same thing to you if we are given the opportunity.
>>58226299Hell no. On day 1, I will make the command master chief salute me. LOL nah I just want to serve and make use of my education
>>58226324>LOL nah I just want to serve and make use of my educationFair enough. Just don't give any of your subordinates a reason to frag you, and you'll do fine.
>>58226299No one cares, go form a working party and police call the smoke pit.>>58226200Huh? They're been doing it since before my parents were born. I care not. I am selfishly pursuing my own ends.
>>58226469>No one cares, go form a working party and police call the smoke pit.Spoken like someone that hasn't adapted to civilian life yet. Let me guess. You still smoke Newports even though you are "White"
>>58226359I'd like to point out that newbies have a tendency to make mistakes. It's pretty much expected in the ranks of 01-03. You will really only get penalized if you refuse to learn from your mistakes. Beep boop I am a bot powered by AI
>>58226485>baited that easilyKek. No I smoked unfiltered Lucky Strikes back when I did smoke.
>>58226618Back in my day, they were toasted, but the ones you get nowadays, who knows? For all you know, you could be smoking tobacco scented oats.
How do you make a military career something people aspire to and not just a suicide net for failures and the disadvantaged?
>>58226032Are there trannies in the room right now?
>>58223691To be a pilot, maybe.
>>58223568>Space Force nearing the end of my terminal leave >Thinking about going Guard/Reserve at some point >Currently way behind on a lot of paperwork, both in and out of my control >Have passed 26 CLEPs/DSSTs AMA. Tell me anything. >>58225960>easiest branch to join from a physicalProbably Navy, but Air and Space Force are so close I won't argue with someone who says them instead >and academic stand point Army, sort of, but the requirements are so low for all branches that you have to either be ESL or have an actual, unironic, mental disability to not qualify for all of them.
>>58226860Have another Maine/Pearl Harbor/9/11
>>58226860read Starship Troopersany higher career position, especially politics is locked off if you never servedand while the novel focuses on military, the service wasn't just military - any undesirable, dangerous job would give you privileges for risking your neck for benefit of othersIt's like that old Greek quote - The city that separates its philosophers from its warriors will be lead by cowards in times of peace and by fools in times of danger
Daily reminder to sign an infantry contract, try out for your battalion sniper section, and drop a Ranger School packet during your first contract.
>>58228249Maybe that 6 year $2,000 enlistment bonus will be worth it
>>58228249>>58228276Unless you want to LARP during peacetime it's not worth it. Most guys are waiting for their contracts to end so they can get out or reclass.
Went to MEPS and we’ll over half of my zoomer brethren were all joining the national guard. My generation cannot commit to anything can they?
>>58228276>>58228425If money is all you care about why the hell are you joining the military in peacetime anyway? I recommend doing this because the recon/sniper community is one of the best parts of the military to be in, and because you'll be surrounded by motivated dudes while doing cool shit, even in peacetime. If that doesn't interest you then ignore my shilling.
>>58225000Only one way to find out. Hit up the ANG and see what they can do for you
Graduating with a Civil Engineering bachelors degree in a year or two, which branch has the least chance of fucking me over and shoving me into an enlisted job for 4 years
>>58225000Depends on your AFOQT scores, job openings, interview, and other things.
>>58228010>I'm a Marine. I carried guns every day in Iraq, guns very similar to the ones used to perpetrate the Orlando murders and many other mass shootings in America. I've used guns in combat. On more than one occasion, guns have saved my life. But there's a big difference between a U.S. Marine with a rifle and a civilian with a gun.>I trained for years in order to use my weapon properly. And long before I ever aimed it at an individual, I had to look at pictures of dead and mangled bodies in order to understand the magnitude of what it meant to pull that trigger. So believe me when I tell you: There's simply no reason for a civilian to own a military-style assault weapon. It's no different than why we outlaw civilian ownership of rockets and landmines. Thankfully, Congress has the ability and authority to eliminate the civilian sale of these weapons of war. We have before, and we should again.- Congressman Seth Moulton putting neverserveds on suicide watch
my fat ass is 5 ft 9 and 250 pounds will i get denied from national guard enlistment?
>>58230547How wide is your neck?
>>58228630The Army National Guard would be the 3rd biggest branch by itself, shouldn’t be surprising that a lot of people join it.
>>58230616Around? That's the same as my dick
>>58230669Goddamnit, haha but I just want to know if I would automatically get denied and told to lose weight before applying again. Or if I would be put into basic and the fat camp program they have there.
>>58230696You’re like 70 pounds over. Lose weight, but contact a recruiter now, they still may work with you.
>>58230767Thank you, I am planning to take a practice asvab next week.
>>58225923Yes. Prepare your anus
>>58223568going soon for Reserves 35Lwhat can I expect intelchads
>>58231429Literally intel person I have ever met is an absolute weirdo, there are no chads in the intel world>captcha: S2 yn0p
>>58231701In the reserves, you're home most of the time so nobody has to know your job is actually lame. Military intelligence sounds cool
>>58227201This. I just want to fly a Blackhawk or Chinook.
>>58228630>He was dumb enough to go activeThe National Guard and Reserve are 52% of the US Army. You're actually the minority on Active Duty.
>>58231719Key word is sounds. You'll be briefing officers on the weather 90% of the time.
>>58232115Okay. But also 35L is both federal law enforcement as well as intelligence, which is a good career stepping stone
>>5823216335L is different than 35F or something, ignore the dude saying you'll be doing weather briefs.
Thank God.The MEPs doctor didn't molest me.You're all projecting faggots.God bless America.
>>58232440I’m the real MEPs doctorI’m hiding in your closetThe probing will soon commence
>>58232440It definitely doesn't happen to most guys but again, if you're the unlucky sob it does happen to just let it happen and move on. Doctor is way more valuable to the DOD than a potential recruit. >t. butthole got violated
>>58228630The National Guard does more than active duty, unfortunately your brethren are right. Makes zero sense to have NJ ARNG killing Boko Haram in Somalia or NC ARNG providing Bradley's to SOF when active is training 24/7 but it's how it is.
>>58223568My state only has a 5 year legal requirement for storing records. Can I request they be removed before going to MEPS? Or does it not work like that?
>>58232063Natty Guard 35F here. What's wrong with active duty? The job and housing market looks like total aids so I'm seriously considering just going active after I graduate. Even my folks (both masters degree educated so they aren't total retards) are heavily pushing me to consider it and it doesn't sound like a bad deal at all >>58232786What are you trying to hide? It probably isn't bad enough to disqualify you.
>>58228425That “larping” as you call it is what prepares us for times of war. That is how I see it anyway, but I know I’m in the minority as most 11b’s just goof off during training.
They asked me if I ever thought about harming anyone during the process at MEPs, I answered no but, I mean honestly, yes, I think about harming communists every single day.Also who hasn't thought about harming people? What sort of question is that, if anyone answered honestly that would disqualify 90% of the population.
>>58233649Simmer down highspeed, if there's an actual war chances are you with half your platoon will get eviscerated by artillery or drones before you even get to use your training. Grunts will always be needed to take and hold ground, but you also have to come to terms with the fact you're easily replaced by design.Ask Nick Maimer if the training he got as an 18B helped him in combat.
>>58232920I'm in the Maryland Guard so Intel MOSs are HUGE in our state. Everyone at the many intel and Cyber units here just makes bank in one of the numerous civilian agencies in the DMV. If you're a 35F in a place without much government work than yea I see your point about the job marker. But there is nothing wrong with active duty, I was being facetious. They do get better, more frequent training for sure, but they also have to deal with a higher degree of bullshit. It's up to you whether or not to go active. I wanted to at first as well, but it's honestly nice only having to go into the office once a month even there are million little bullshit things to keep up with in between drill.
>>58233670They do that because it helped filter out genuinely unhinged and insane people. If they didn't ask those stupid questions than the army would have to answer to Congress why there's an uptick in murders amung soldiers
>>58233670>>58234440If anything, answering honestly is a bigger sign that you're insane thab the fact that you think of harming people
>>58234016Tbh i bet ol nicky M slotted lots of vatniks first
>>58234468Unfortunately probably not. Vatniks heavily focus on artillery and the American volunteers there say they usually break contact instead of getting into firefights. Good chance he didn't see much of anything before the shell hit him, as modern warfare goes.
>>58232920Being committed to a mental ward(voluntarily) for two days. I know psychiatric meds/suicidal idealization are immediate DQ no matter how distant/irrelevant they are.
>>58235015Move to it better unit than dude lol. Just cuz your unit is dog shit does not mean everyone else's is. I drove for two to three days a month and I don't really do shit to be honest lol. Yes we train a little bit on our specific MOS skill set but once lunch passes we basically sit around on our phones in the office because BN level soldiers don't really do a lot unless your combat arms. It's the most low effort, low stress, comfortable job I've ever had. Even more than any civilian job I've ever had. Either leave your shitty unit or leave your shitty MOS.
>>58235047I was replying to your second reply, anon.
Did the Airforce lower their Minimum weight standard?I weigh 132 pounds and I'm 6'1, I still qualified.Last I checked the minimum weight was 140 for my height.
>>58231701>Intel unit I used to support had THREE trannies in the same squadron >Also had the most ripped active duty person I've ever met What a strange place. I miss those guys (not the trannies though).
I’m gonna join the reserves is that a dumb choice? My brother-in-law used to be in the marines and now is in the reserves thinks I should join the national guard instead for the combat roles but Idk desu
>>58235166They'd much rather have an underweight weakbody skellington than a fatfuck. If you're worried about minimum weight that much, just start eating a lot of ice cream.
>>58235294Which Reserves nigger? If talking Army than NG every time unless you really don't wanna get called up for state missions ever. The NG has tons of in-state benefits to make up for the lesser federal benefits.
>>58235112Oh shit my bad I thought you were calling your unit a mental ward lol. Uhhh talk to your recruiter come up look more here, or ask Reddit subs like r/Military. Having mental health issues isn't necessarily a swallow fire as far as I know but I don't know about being put in a mental ward. The fact that it was voluntary might be beneficial to you because doing it voluntary is better than being forced into it
>>58235263>>Intel unit I used to support had THREE trannies in the same squadron Wait actually let trannies in the military now? I thought they were heavily discouraged because of medical concerns or something. Every former military tranny I know or know of transition to well after they got out of the service.
>>58223568How is it that this zoomer worked in intel and held a TS clearance but had such a poor understanding of the lengths counterintel will go to to track people down?
>>58235361>NGYou sure national guard is better then army reserves? I been reading and sizing both option and desu national guard sounds better then reserves idk what job I’ll pick within the guard though
>>58235426Joe Biden did it within a week of taking office, because apparently there was nothing more important to do. https://apnews.com/article/biden-reverse-ban-transgender-military-f0ace4f9866e0ca0df021eba75b3af20>>58235469>this zoomer worked in intel and held a TS clearanceHe was actually comm, supporting an intel group. They kinda handwave all the real intel training so long as you do your CBTs. And I guess he was a fucking retard.
>>582354691) being a dumb fuck young person that had way too much ego and pride2) he likely assumed that The stuff he leaked would not have sprayed so rapidly since it was in his little discord server (for example, the current discord server I'm in has a bunch of women that regularly post their own nudes.... With. Their. Faces. I'm sure all of them assume no one in the discord server whatever think of spreading that shit to other sites without their permission or consent even though it's a mother fucking anti-server with 70,000 members. People that are desperate for attention to stupid shit sometimes)3) he probably thought the stuff he leaked wasn't important for the Feds to really care about. My guess is that because a low-level tech Janny like him had access to it, it must not be THAT important right?This is coming from an Intel guy, but being an Intel does not necessarily mean you're an intelligent person lol. People say that shit all the time in these threats and they aren't exaggerating at all. Just ctrl+f 35F in the archives and you'll see what I mean. For some of the dumbest smart people you will ever meet and apparently we're also very lazy because we have an absurdly high turnover rate (which is the main reason it's so easy to get a 35F slut in the first place. No one wants to commit long-term it's getting a clearance is so easy, so they get the clearance, do their 3-year obligation and then fuck off to their cushy government jobs).
>Get through basic and assigned to infantry unit>Meet your platoon leader>Ayo private anon I'm your Platoon leader nigga>In this squad we go hard bruh believe that>Report to the toiletries at 0800 hours for urinal cake replacement duty whyte boiWhat do you say?
>>58235580>He went combat arms
>>58235704>t. POG backline bitch
>>58235580Neverserved, but that sound...reasonably okay? Seriously, all I've been hearing from vets is one horrible fucking chore after another. Replacing urinal cakes seems fine by comparison honestly.
>>58235855>but that sound...reasonably okay?Obvious neverserved, doesn't know he has to eat the "cake" getting replaced
Has anyone worn the Rocky S2V Predators? How do they stack up against the Special Ops?I have a pair of special ops that are near the end of their life and I'm likely going to get another pair in this sale since they're the best boots I've ever owned.
>leaker retard couldn’t even make marksman>couldn’t hit 22 out of 24 shots at 25 meters>with a red dot
>>58236186Those were the most fucked up safety glasses I've ever seen tbqh
>>58235812>t. Still alive in my Air conditioned TOC keeping track of how many of you die
>>58235411>>58235015>Having mental health issues isn't necessarily a swallow fire as far as I knowIt's getting progressively more lenient, especially since MHS genesis. A lot of old heads aren't going to like it, but most of them have mental illnesses too, they just refuse to treat them or admit it. Someone who's shown they're willing to seek help and cooperate with treatment is 10x more useful someone who just drinks himself to death in his barracks.
>>58236186To be fair, air force marksmanship instruction is total shit. If the kid never got decent instruction on shooting when he was younger, things weren't going to get better after joining as an intel guy.
>>58226618The ordinary men in the actual fighting arms in the military (a very rapidly shrinking proportion of our “military”, which is overwhelmingly composed of what used to be called camp followers, wrongfully dressed in uniforms, which grants them stolen valor) are thoroughly disgusted with woke, fags, and trannies, and would follow an officer similarly disgusted.Which is why the government is purging the military ever more drastically.
>>58235469The digitalization of military intelligence was a huge mistake. We've traded security for convenience, and now every idiot tech support monkey has access to classified intel because he helped set up the password.
>>58236459>Someone who's shown they're willing to seek help and cooperate with treatment is 10x more usefulDon't fall for this. It will ruin your career in peacetime. In war, it will get people killed. >>58236625>which is overwhelmingly composed of what used to be called camp followersThen why are tooth to tail ratios improving, in your narrative?
>>58236674>In war, it will get people killed.This is a weird cope by the guys who blow their brains out at astronomical rates annually. I used to feel bad about vet suicide until I realized most of them are 100% at fault. Can't help people who refuse it.
How does Air National Guard TACP work?Is it still Special Warfare like regular TACP?
>>58236974Vets kill themselves because rucking totally ruins their spines and knees by 28 and they get out physically broken with no life skills, they aren't bad people
>>58237077It doesn't ruin their spines and it teaches life skills which are applicable to wherever they go. They're just poor sods unable to make the jump to self sufficiency. Or they're mentally inept to cope with traumatic events.
>>58237077Nah man, more often than not the problems are personality not physical. And basically all the guys in my cycle who ended up getting fucked up were extremely unfit. What do you know, if you refuse to lift weights or stretch rucking is going to give you injuries? Gasp.
>join the army blud>the army:
>>58237280Nice patrol basesl
>>58237280>did you dogleg?>no we're occupying by force>doitagain! aaaaa rangers!
I've been out for 7 years, 30 year old prior service Marine, I just had a kid and I need to lose 30 lbs. I know what I've got to do physically and I'm already studying to take another ASVAB. But what can I expect going to an Army recruiter?>redoing basic?>Nat guard vs Army?>Does the Nat guard have full time active positions?>Am I eligible for bonuses for in demand jobs as prior service?>Am I stupid?
>>58238909>I just had a kid and I need to lose 30 lbs. Post tits
>>58238909>30 y.o.>didn't get degree with GI billYes. Extremely. Go to school and concentrate on your family, you absolute baffoon.
>>5822356829 year old with a degree joining herekek
>>58239198>some mutha fuckas always trynna iceskate uphill
>>58239186>Go to schoolBut I did >Started machinist program>quit after 1 year>6 months for LE academy and certification>2 years towards BS in businessI currently work at a county jail and earned just north of $70k but I practically live at work. I miss 30 days of leave a year and want the retirement.
>>58239228>Quit>turned into a pig>?BS in business>a fucking bachelors in science in business? Nigga what?lol. lmao even. What was your MOS? Why do Marines automatically shift towards LEO and security gigs? Very cringe, good luck not getting ventilated, retard.
>>58239272Lol I work in jail I wrestle retards all day, I was a 6323 com/nav on shitters.
>>58239328The absolute state of pogs. Should've gone to work at Boing or some shit. Finish degree, then comission to maximize O1E pay.
I'm contracted for comms in the Marines, shipping out this August to basic. Did I fuck up going comms? Originally wanted to go Inf but everyone (recruiters and veterans I know) said it was retarded.
>>58239357You already know I'm a retard, why would you expect me to take the smart/easy road that doesn't involve hating life. Honestly I start to feel antsy when life gets menial, I couldn't stand troubleshooting aircraft because it was the same thing everyday. In jail I'm getting in fights, talking shit, and it's fresh every day. Only thing that sucks is the hours I'll regularly get 130-150 hours checks.I'd like to get back in and do something other than aviation or maintenance, I'd live to keep wrangling and manhandle retards but with active duty bennies and gov holidays.
>>58239399Comms is pretty gay.Infantry can be fun if you want to earn your money.Go and do whatever YOU want to do and live with your decision. Regardless of MOS when you get out you'll have the GI bill to go study whatever your weak body desires.
>>58239470Yeah, more I've learned about comms more gay I've been thinking it'll be. Infantry does sound like more fun but that could just be retard brain doing retard things. And I could care less about GI Bill and whatever, I want to have some fun and actually be challenged for a few years.
>>58236674Shut it old fag. Mental illness is incredibly common in the mother fucking military lol. How miserable do you have to be to feel the need to talk someone out of seeking help? Why the hell do you think behavior health even exist? Why do you think there are benefits that can get you therapy sessions for reduced cost or even free? If you are mentally unwell you are a danger to your goddamn unit in wartime. By not getting your head in check, you were endangering yourself and others when shit actually gets hot. Just because you are lazy and don't want to get help doesn't mean everyone else has to
>>58239601Do infantry and volunteer for sniper or marsoc(after an enlistment).Alternatively go Army and do Rangers. Army has more schools for infantry but are more bottom of barrel on people that go in(in normal line co).You don't care about GI bill now, but after you get out and go academia you can dab hard as shit on research nerds as a prior grunt.
>>58239609Lmao you sound like an edgy teen.
>>58239682Will I be fucked though? Like, I'm already contracted, and signed on for comms. And no matter what I was thinking of volunteering for either MARSOC or RECON.
>>58239695No. You have not shipped yet. If the recruiter gives you lip tell him(lie) that you're going to the Army because they offered Rangers.You will literally never see that recruiter again after you ship, fuck him. It's your career.
>>58239720Alright, thanks bro.
Reminder that it’s peace time and therefor things are shitty (especially for combat elements). The trade off to this is that if you can hack the bullshit there’s a chance you can be an invader if/when shit pops off on the next few years. There’s no shame in getting out though if you have other opportunities.Unless you’re fucking Special Forces. Green Beanies are gonna always have a job with all the small war shit going on.
>>58239682I second this for the Army with aiming for a RASP packet. Regiment is a great place to grow up as a young infantryman.
I emailed my local AF reserve recruiter twice in the past couple weeks. No response. Are recruiters that busy or is she just ignoring me?
>>58239843The military is changing with the country. You need to change with it.
>>58239857What did he mean by this?
>>58239843Call the office or just show up.
>>58239228>But I did Except you didn’t. Starting a degree does not equal getting a degree you absolute retard.
>>58239928Starting a degree shows initiative.
>>58239948Not if you can’t finish.
>>58239928Dummy I said I went to school, not that I completed a degree. I don't know if it's something mental or what, but I can't stick with something like school long term. I can handle a marriage or shit career but I self sabotage with things like school. The happiest I've been is when I'm miserable because I always feel guilty and busting my ass feels right. I couldn't do white collar work.
>>58239957I couldn't finish because the school shut down during covid.
>>58239981Oh it’s something mental alright.
>>58240000¯\_(ツ)_/¯What are you gonna do? Not everyone can be an accountant or doctor and someone has to babysit and manhandle murderers and pedophiles. My life is painful and I'm surrounded by retards, might as well work towards a faster retirement and get decent vacation time. Shit I'd love to build up my medical jacket when I get back in so I can get an actual VA rating instead of 10% for tinnitus.
>>58239843About a year out from separation I called my local Air Force Reserve in-service recruiter. He didn't answer so I left a voicemail and he called back a few minutes later and scheduled a meeting for later that week. Showed up and we talked about joining and stuff but he mentioned he was PCSing soon and I could follow up with the new guy. A few months later I repeatedly called the new guy, left a few voicemails, E-mailed him a few times, and he finally replied a month later asking for some forms I didn't have, and not willing to schedule a meeting until I got those forms. He took another month to reply to my followup E-mail. Basically not all recruiters are the same. Some are really good and some don't even do the bare minimum. Anyway regardless of whether she's a shitty recruiter or she legitimately just missed your E-mails or something, I'd recommend showing up to the office and asking in person.
>>58240062This is literally me right now lmao.I was interviewed by 2 Majors for an open direct comission officer position, they recommended me and the recruiter is dragging fucking ass.I hate recruiters so much it's unreal.
>>58224275>If it's just for money you'd be better off in a trade.Then you'd have to do real work instead of just fucking around. In the military you only have to stay in a reasonable shape and not pick a fight with your superiors.
>>58235580Black dudes in the Army are one of 3 archetypes, from my experience>weaboos who will shamelessly watch loli hentai with the volume cranked>wannabe rappers who will buy a Mustang at 24% APR the instant they hit their unit>your black PSG who looks like Ronnie Coleman and who probably beheaded a dude with an e-tool in Iraq
Can I join with a history of asthma and food allergies? I don’t think it is that bad, but my mom kept picking up an inhaler and a epipen from the pharmacy until I was 18
>>58241037>my mom kept picking up an inhaler and a epipen from the pharmacy until I was 18You’ll have to pass a pulmonary function test from a private doctor in order to get a waiver. As for the food allergy, depends what you’re allergic to.
I need to get a waiver for a skin condition, urticaria, am I fucked?
>>58240076Take the hint. You're not wanted.
>>58241170Oh yeah, I wish. Multiple people have corroborated my acceptance memo for that job. Recruiter is from a seperate command.
>>58235294If you go nothing going on in your life, go active for a few years and then go reserve. It’s kind of fun doing all the stupid pointless shit as a lower enlisted with a bunch of other people stuck in a shitty situation. Once you start making rank and doing more paperwork it gets boring, that’s when you go reserve.
>>58235580>tfw I'm a black officer candidate branching infantryBtw I'd never make you clean the toilets. Your Team Leader will handle that for me.
>>58235503If you wanna branch combat arms, National Guard is your only option. I'd highly advise against the Marine Reserve.
Hey faggot, yes you. We don’t know for certain if that time you went to the hospital when you were 12 or the asthma that you stopped getting an inhaler for 10 years ago will effect your enlistment. This is not the place to ask. Just enlist and find out for yourself.
>>58223568What's the most transferable mos to civilian life?Also, how intelligent do I have to be to become a green beret?Im already doing decent as far as physical standards go, and I'm not straight out of highschool
Dumb question maybe but does the basic infantry training (for a marine or soldier) involve fighting in trenches/building trenches?
>>58245175Don't do 18X. You won't make it. If you want to be a SF go the proper route and enlist as 11X Op 40 and drop a SFAS packet at youe unit. >But I'm in REALLY good shapeYeah everyone thinks this. It isn't just physical fitness though. Land Nav is what gets most people because the land nav you do at basic training simply isn't enough practice before trying for SF land nav.
>>58247437can you give me some more info regarding the op 40? I'm guessing that goes the ranger route, then I apply for sfas?
>>58247437>Don't do 18X. You won't make it.Brutal reality here: if you wouldn't make it as an 18X you don't have the foresight or grit to make it as an 11X.
af maintainer here, anyone know the process of going warrant in the army from the air force? I wanna fly but becoming a pilot is too hard in the air force.
>>58247657Option 40 is 11 series + airborne school + rangers. Do a few years in regiment, learn and become useful, see if you love the military, understand how its harder than people think, and if you like it then drop a SF packet once you have the experience to understand what its all about.
>1A8X2what are the list of possible languages to learn from?
>>58248038>>Do a few years in regiment>26 going to turn 27
>>58241875>If you wanna branch combat arms, National Guard is your only option.He could always move to Hawaii lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100th_Infantry_Battalion_(United_States)
My plan is to get a bachelor's degree at my local community College and then commission to become a officer in the airforce. Has anyone gone to OTS and could tell me about it. My bachelor degree will specialize in information systems as well.
>>58223691Have you seen recrootment numbers and all the military ads being spammed everywhere? Nobody wants to serve this country lmao
>>58249938Go to uni and enroll in ROTC. Much easier.
>>58224783>Honestly mil sounds less miserableLol. Lmao.
>>58250391Yes, it really does. Have you been in academia? Have you done research? Bretty gay.
As a skinnyfat starting from zero how do I get ready for basic. Running is simple enough but I literally can not do a pushup or a situp.
>>58250878Damn dude how much do you weigh? I have never heard of someone not being able to do a pushup or situp. Were you in a coma? Can you leave your own bed?If you're not a troll. First off lose weight, and running could strengthen your core just enough to do pushups and situps.Also, do negative pushups and situps. Start in a pushup/situp position and try to go down as slow as possible. Just reset the position when you hit the ground
>>58250878>>58250944Actually, maybe running may not be the best for you. If you're really as out of shape as you say you are you might hurt yourself. Try biking, swimming, or rowing. Less strain on the joints.
>>58250944I'm not obese or anything I'm just a DYEL with noodle arms. I'm thinking weightlifting can help improve my upper body
>>58250966It can, but core is key. That's what you'll use for basic
>>58247437My experience actually had the drills pull the 18x guys aside and go over some more in depth land nav stuff.Probably helped that one of our drills was a Green Beret
>>58248069The majority of 18Xs washout and get put in needs of the army. It's way to better to chose a decent MOS then drop a packet. 18X contracts are the definition of putting all your eggs in one basket. Hedge your bets at least a little. If you're high speed for enough SF than you should be an infantry stud.
Thoughts on joining ANG and attending college? Want to get a job in aerospace propulsion or metals technology, while studying mechanical engineering at home.What are the chances I'll deploy to a warzone if I'm guard?
>>58251810>What are the chances I'll deploy to a warzone if I'm guard?Depends if a war breaks out or not. Odds are one will occur within the next 6 years, so I’d say your chances of being deployed are greater than 50%
>>58247437What if I have enough land to practice land nav on? Any books I can read to make me great at land nav?
>>58223568>Active duty>Junior CPT/O-3>Thinking about having kids with wife and buying a house>Don't want to move every 2-3 years and rotate to fucking Poland or Korea every other year while kids are growing upThinking of getting out, what is life like in the reserves/is it hard to get into if you're leaving active duty as an O?
>>58254813Watch vids online. Land nav is not that hard. If you want practice find a topo graph of your area and practice with that
>>58251737A little over half of 18Xs washout but they still have a much higher pass rate than people from the big army, probably mostly because of prep course. Again, if you don't make it as an 18X you're sure as hell not going to pass as an 11B/C.
Will having a TS/SCI do anything for me as an 11b?
>>58250276You're STILL here?
>>58250276Perfect time to enlist (not in the Army, but zoomers don't get the drastic quality of life differences between a branch that cannot afford to have standards because body shortage) then get promoted quickly during expansions. If you don't plan coldly for best career from the beginning you're a dumbass or autspergic or both.
>>58251810Propulsion and Metals Tech are both good, Metals Tech being smaller and harder to get but very comfy. I was an engine troop for about a third of my career and loved it but I love all aviation technology. I'd have happily done Metals Tech but that fills up quickly so say yes if you get the chance.Deployments will be sufficiently rare not to have negative effect and Cold War (praise be to Allah, it has properly resumed!) deployments tend to be great fun being Eurocentric. There are always more than sufficient volunteers. The odds of actual nation-state war are trivial. Zoomers who never experienced Cold War v1.0cannot internalize the unwritten but "more real than written" rules of that glorious game. That's not their fault, some things must be lived not read. Cold War theater has its purposes but most fearmongering is clickbait. The OG Cold War made the current dollar store version seem feeble.
Bros what’s the fastest way to get military training? Ukraine is gonna end soon I can feel it. I don’t want to get there and it’s back to 16-21 ceasefire.
>>58256305>Again, if you don't make it as an 18X you're sure as hell not going to pass as an 11B/C.That's fucktarded logic. An 11B has literally zero standards besides passing OSUT. You can be the biggest piece of shit in the Army, but if you don't commit any crimes or get DUIs you'll be fine in a non-ranger unit. At SFAS if you peers or cadre don't like you, you're gone. What you said is the equivalent of saying that if you can't run a marathon than you probably won't be able to run a 5k either. 50% of people don't washout of OSUT so they clearly aren't the same level of difficulty. Additionally 18Xs have higher standards than infantry because you need a minimum 110 GT score whereas infantry doesn't even have a floor. You honestly should delete that embarrassing ass.
>>58255372>what is life like in the reserves/is it hard to get into if you're leaving active duty as an O?You'll do the same job for 1/10 of the money, and now in your free time instead of on the clock. It's worth it if you get a civilian job that pays differential at which point you can get stupid rich, stupid quick.Joining is easy. You're an officer, get your shit together and figure it out.
>>58245175What are your physical standards? 5 mile time, push ups, deadlift, ruck time?>>58258931That is retarded logic, but even a broken clock is right twice a day, 18x have on average better chances than someone who dropped a packet, which is what you're suggesting, the "proper way" isn't to go through RASP, Batt, and then go to SFAS, all sorts of people from every unit do it, it's what gives Special Forces the Special part, having a diverse skill set for any situation.
>>58259032>18x have on average better chances than someone who dropped a packet, which is what you're suggesting, the "proper way" isn't to go through RASP, Batt, and then go to SFAS, all sorts of people from every unit do it, it's what gives Special Forces the Special part, having a diverse skill set for any situation.That's not really point I'm trying to make though. I don't care about what the percentage of people who make it is. Over half don't from all sources. The internet is literred with stories of 18X washouts being reassigned as cooks, fuelers, and all kinds of suicide inducing jobs.If you enlist as 11X then drop a packet you at least know you'll have a combat job no matter what. Obviously the type of people who enlist as 18X are the type of bro-science pseuds who unironically listen to Jocko Willik podcasts and thus don't plan for failure, so they'll never do this. I'm not saying it's impossible, because 50% attrition isn't THAT insane, but it's enough to consider hedging your bets.
>>58259267Good point, I only point out that 18x is good as long as you actually put the work in before enlisting, if you want to become special forces, then do it. Don't go to a unit that doesn't give a fuck, makes you do dumb shit and forces you to work out on top of already prepping for selection when you can take 4-6 months prep time, enlist straight into SF, and become a green beret instead of spending at least 2 years in a dicked up unit before you can even drop a packet. Batt is a good start point but its no guarentee.
>>58223691As long as higher education and medical is privatized, there will always be bodies for uncle sam.
Give it to me straight. How do I get the 50k signing bonus? I’d prefer to do 11x.
>>58263859Ask for it
>Got assfucked for mental health at MEPSAnd they're shocked they can't find anyone to enlist? Fuck that, their retarded health standards are impossible to meet anymore
>>58267914Overdiagnosis of mental health disorders and overusage of prescription medications are to blame.Thirty years ago, if a kid was a little hyper, they'd enroll them in sports so they could burn it off. Now, many schools don't even have PE class so the kid with extra energy gets put on drugs in order to shut them up. These are all self-inflicted problems brought on by pharma lobbyists and corporations.
>>58267962I mean yeah that's part of it but I got trauma and shit, got it all treated but cause I grew up wrong they don't want me for some fucking reason?It's literally setting fire to the core demographic's chances at enlisting.It used to be>Kid grows up in a rough neighborhood to shitty parents>Keeps his head down and gets into sports or academics or trades or whatever>Gets his therapy through vocational or religious means>gets out of his depression and rises above his trauma>Graduates high school and runs away from that life into the military>Has a successful career and retires an E-7 or something idkNow it's all like>Kid grows up in a shitty neighborhood with worse parents>Covid fucked him up even worse>Cause of the whole restriction of activities and shit, the only person they can go to for their problems is a shrink>Shrink does his shit and leaves Mark's on his medical record>Kid has little to no skills or sports experience but still wants to get into the military>Gets denied cause he got his mental health cared for>Drops out of high school and becomes an addict or a drug dealers since there is literally nothing else to do
>>58268007Lmao Anon. In this time and age even trannies can enlist and they rejected you for being a nutjob? Damn son. Maybe its time to realize you aren't entitled to shit, get a simple job and start that self improvement grind. Work hard, don't complain, invest in relevant courses amd maybe in 10 years time you won't be a total embarrasment.
>>58268102So why were you rejected?
>>58268007Warfighting is changing, and this is the route the DoD is choosing to go. People who aren't emotionally stable are going to cause issues that have second and third order effects beyond what someone who was a rifleman or whatever could cause fifty years ago.Complain to congress if you don't like it. Write a letter.
>>58268007>WAAAAA MOM YOU DONT GET IT IM JUST SO SAAAAAAD!!! IM GONNA CRYYYYYYYY WAAAAAAA!You were never going to make it.
Has anyone here ever cross-rated in the Navy? The Navy literally sent out help wanted ads to cross rate to information warfare rates such as IT, CTR, CTT etc. and when I spoke to my career counselor they were willing to help. But the big wig they emailed said "sorry can't support". What gives
>>58270292The military is retarded, sorry to break it to ya
>>58254310Keep up the work recrooter>>58257831Been away for a few months actually, what's (You)r excuse?>>58258424Nah. Military is big gay. Should be a last ditch effort after homelessness
>>58223719its honestly wasn't so bad, I've had alt girls try and do more with my butt than the meps dr did. good luck tomorrow, don't worry ,but remember 1 in 5 get DQ'd. Its not the end of the world and usually its just more paperwork and you're good to go by next week.
>>5822369140k sign on bonus and getting me the hell out of my home town.
>>58225061can you duck walk? that will DQ you at meps if you cant do that.
>>58225960army and marines are taking anybody now days. Air force and Space Force are not hurting for the good jobs. Only SecFo and Maintainers need the numbers.
>>5822824918X or Option 40 if you're going Army and even then its still a toss up. No one is seeing much action anymore, not even SF apart from isolated raids in Syria.
>>582305475'10 and 230lbs.my neck is 16.5in and waist was 39 inches and i got approved
>>58272926I know one of the ODA team captains who has recently been to Syria who was my PL in the line. He said there's more action to be seen in Africa for everyone, to include conventional troops who get lucky.
>>58239981you need therapy not the army
>>58248119average age for SFAS packet is 25, shut the fuck up. Im sick of dudes in their late 20s bitching about being old when 50% of sf are almost 40. "can i make it if im 28?" no YOU cant. the other 28 year old guy who isnt on the internet complaining and is enlisting right now can.
When does infantry get deployed, all I heard is that you clean your rifle and be a janny for the place for your staying at.
>>58275004Every 3 years, typically. Where you deploy to depends on world events but usually it'll be Atlantic Resolve (Europe) or Pacific Pathways (Korea/Japan/maybe smaller countries). A select few units still go to the sandbox.
>>58231930why not apache?ww26n3
>>58275635ignore ww26n3 misplaced captcha
>>58231238I know he was at least half joking, but that legitimately inspired me. Thanks anon.
>>58232920As an active 35F I've never done anything related to my MOS for the past 2 years of my 3 year contract.
>>58230376>does that make him a gun-grabbing commie, too
>>58223568>26 y.o>jobless>broke>skill-less>furthest education degree is high-school diplomaI should just join the Army or Navy and get it over with shouldn't I fellas? I don't got much going on in life.
>>58278953Join the air force. They have the lowest cultural standards when it comes to fitness and personal accountability. Nobody will bother you for doing the bare minimum.
>>58278964>Join the air forceI am not very smart, but I've been hearing that the Army and Navy were looking for more recruits. Are you currently serving anon?
>>58279088You don't need to be smart to join the Air Force.
>>58278953Review your options, the military does suck ass for alot of different reasons. And the pay is shit. If you do join, constantly go to sick call and bitch about your back, purposely fail the hearing tests after you have been in a year. Cry like a pussy when a rando inevitably kills themselves for that sweet PTSD money. You will be paid for the rest of your life and in tendie town forever. Oh, and free college that they pay you to go to class if you want.
>>58278953Research the branches and find jobs that interest you. Study hard for the ASVAB if you aren't up to standards par. Secure that MOS/Rate with your recruiters and stick to it. Just don't be a fucking retard pussy E-3 and below when you show up to your unit, give half a shit and you'll be fine and promote.>>58279277Guys like this will say it's literally the worst thing ever but it's really not.
>>58279335I was the the Army back when gays couldn't serve. 13b. Shit sucked and the black Free masons like to promote there is an over you if your white or Mexican. Shit is gay. Ok only regret having pride and not getting more gibs. I did 12 months in Iraq, went outside the wire everyday. Got zero disability. I'm doing ok, but I know chair force Faggots who did less then me but have 100%. When you are in the military, suck the US government dry, fuck em.
>>58279393*Promote their own over you
Name the coolest jobs you can think of for a 2LT to do while he waits for 1LT(P) to go to selection that ISNT Infantry.Hardmode: reserve/guard>t. Prior 11B
>>58280339AAAS3Distro PLOrderly room
How fat can you be and join the Army?
>>58280356Too narrow minded, I’m the poster in question.Thinking about FA40 or 15A. What else are some good gigs?
>>58280972>FA40>as a fucking 2LTHey, if you can make it happen go for it, but right you need a position that nets you good OERs before you try selection, not a dream job.
>>58279088>I am not very smartThis is a meme. The minimum required score for the air force is only four points higher than the army. You can be a window licker and still be an airman.
>>58273117I got a buddy in the NG as a 11C and he saw some action in Syria supporting the Rangers recently. Its still happening, but the nightly GWOT raids are over. No reason to go conventional in peace time. Africa is interesting especially with Wagner and Chinese PMCs thrown into the mix. We all remember the GBs who died in an ambush a few years ago.
>>58280911Pretty fat. Only way to know is talking to a recruiter. Basic training will help you lose a lot of weight but most of the fatties put it back on after, you gotta change no one else can change you. >t. fmr skelly who relates to weight problems
>>58223568I’d like to join the coast guard and serve on an icebreaker, any idea how competitive this would be?
>>58270292how long have you been in? what is your rate/rank?
>>58238909Maybe re-do basic. Switching branches it's unnecessary but since you've been out so long I believe you will have to.Go be nasty in the air guardYes they're called AGR positions, but they're competitive.Yes for in-demand (see: dogshit) jobs, you've probably been out for too long for a prior service bonus.>Am I stupidYes. Get a degree or go to trade school. Alternatively, file for VA disability because it's tax-free money and it makes life easier. You can also collect disability in place of your guard pay if it's a larger sum.t. Army NG medic who shoulda gone AF cyber
>>58270292Anon you're probably not qualified
>>58238909>>Am I stupid?Not if you hang for what really matters, the retirement check. Noobs care about job satisfaction etc but retirees know better. This is a hollow force era and there are no cool wars on. If you have any sense go USAF. Why would anyone join the Army unless there's no other shot at retirement bennies? Ignore everyone who doesn't put retirement first. Twenty years flies by where ever you are so best to make it pay, and if you chose wisely a few more years for the pay bumps is Very Nice. All the other crap goes away when you ETS but retirement bennies are forever.Roughly half your life will be spent as an old fuck. Get the goddamn money locked in because old age is a shit sandwich and the more bread you have the less shit you taste.
>>58238909You'll definitely have to go to basic if you join the army. You've been out too long to be eligible for their warrior transition program.That was the biggest reason why I went air guard after a similarly long break in service. There was no way I was going to go live in a squadbay with a bunch of children, and I ended up getting a guaranteed OTS slot upon enlistment, so it all worked out.
RASP or gtfo?
2 weeks till RTC. just counting down the days it feels like. I've been doing jack shit since my last DEP meeting I need to start getting up early and stop staying up late and also do more shit throughout my day.
Navy vs. Air force/Space forceQuality of life, training and transferable skills.
>>58285984Do navy nuke
>>58286251This. Best quality of life in any branch, hands down.
>>58285403Do SFAS instead, if you pass your ticket is good for 2 years so you can get out and try something else with going back in for the Q as a backup option.
>>58287817Idk man, dunno if I really vibe with spending my time doing the FID/UW thing. But that's probably just biased from the GWOT and not having been on that side of the fence. Didn't know that about the Q though, I thought if you're a select you just go right in.
>>58288946Like right into the Q, not that passing SFAS gets you to an ODA
>>58288946>>58288966Granted I guess the Ukraine shit is a textbook SF mission and right now UW/FID is kinda the only thing happening. You have a point. Damnit now you got the gears turning.
>>58281745>my 11c buddy got action supporting rangers in SyriaHe's lying to you
>>58288986It's not.Am ragnar I've deployed twice, most of my buddies who went 18x are still in the Q.Not saying rasp is a better route and that opportunities aren't sparse, they are, but they're only going to be more so as a gb
>>58288998not that guy but an 11C (conventional too) got a bronze star for killing some terrorists in Syria a few years ago. Happens, that's why they had Army/Marine infantry there.
>The state I'm going to be in the day I separate doesn't have legal recreational weed WHAT WAS I THINKING
>>58295186hahahaha I was in Camp Pendleton. Literally picked up my papers from IPAC, drove to my boy's house who got out like 2 weeks before me, then we hit up a dispensary. I was stoned less than 2 hours after getting my DD214.
For a secret clearance, are they gonna call my family? Can I get away with not listing a half-brother who does some sketchy shit and lives far away from me and has a different last name?
>>58274111I’m pretty sure the pass rate for 18x that aren’t prior service is like 1%. Enlisting as an 18x at 27 would be retarded. The best way in is to enlist or commission, but then you’re talking about going to SFAS in your 30s, not in your late 20s. The average is totally irrelevant tbqh because the average packet doesn’t make the cut.
>>58281745It seems like it’s been over for conventional forces for like a decade.
>>58296092Maybe. No.They won't care if your brother is a druggie, you can make a note of it on the SF86 or explain in your interview if you have one. They will care if you leave out information they ask for.
>>58225051How is that possible? The American military is supposed to DQ anyone that’s served in a foreign military.
>>58296092For secret clearance, I think they only do a thorough background check. They ask for references but AFAIK none of mine ever got top secret. For TS, they absolutely do some digging and if you lie about something they'll probably find out. If your brother is a criminal you should be fine to list him. They understand that every family has bad apples. They're more concerned about foreign contacts and debt.
>>58296166>but AFAIK none of mine ever got *calledSorry bout that
>>58296145Who told you that?
>>58239198Branch and MOS? I’m 30 myself.
I’m having a hard time deciding whether I want to get in and over with before I age out or whether it’s just not worth it anymore.
>>58296713Would you rather regret doing something or regret not doing something?
>>58294971I dont doubt you but doing force pro on a base that has a tf is not 'getting action wit da ragners' and it's a different tempo than even 2018It's a small , I guarantee you conventional chucks have not hung rounds for rangers recently
>>58296099>1%That's not even true if you include those who self-selectYou show up fit, halfway intelligent with a good attitude you have a decent chance
>worked 10+ random shitty jobs as an adult>took classes at like 5 different schools>background check time, have to look for names/emails/phone numbers/physical addresses of bosses who are no longer there, professors who don't remember me. I'm already using friends who I haven't hit up in years as my referencesdont be me bros, be a neet if you plan on ever getting a government job
>>58297368It would be hard to say until I regret it
>>58297597Statistically, you don’t.
>>58298369>ackshully Your statistics are made up and like wouldn't matter if they werent, they aren't relevent regardless of what your autism tells you
>>58297368Regret doing something, but the thing about it is that at my age doing this something means not doing something else.
>>58299134>Not doing something elseThat notion is far more malleable than you think, I promise you.
>>58297680I'm convinced I don't even really follow up on half the things you tell them. I gave them the names, phone numbers, and addresses of like five random people that I barely spoke to (no friends at the time so I just put down five people I knew of) and I never got a "hey anon the feds called me what's up?" correspondence. I'm pretty sure they only try to follow up with them if they suspect you've done hard drugs in the past or some shit.
>>58299134Being in the military doesn't lock you out from the rest of your life and the rest of the world. Whatever it is that you want to do, you can probably do it while serving.
>>58299246I want to do drugs
>>58299256Sucks to be you then. They do random piss tests even in the national Guard. Stop being a retarded druggy fag and find other productive hobbies to do.
>>58299233>I'm pretty sure they only try to follow up with them if they suspect you've done hard drugs in the past or some shit.well it's a good thing that my fwends wont tell the feds that I've done hard drugs
How do I become cool/kinda nerdy CIA operative guy?
>>58299246I’m not so sure about that in all cases but you’re right for most I guess
>>58299188I’m not following.