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New kino from Perun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPhycuLAtaw
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>>57544743
Get this out of here.
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>>57544754
Shut up, zigger.
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>>57544743
give me a tl;dw
I will watch it but only as background noise so I barely pick up anything more than the broadest strokes from these videos
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Just watched it at 1.75x speed. Nice video. Reminds me of Perun's first few vids where he constructed his points piece by piece and got me to see his points without feeling like I was being strongarmed.
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>>57544754
fucking end yourself
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>>57544765
>>57544794
>>57544880
why do you like him so much?
all his videos are very basic and can be summarized in 2 sentences
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>>57544857
Attacking well defended positions really sucks. What Ukraine sees as a lot of ammo is seen by Russia as barely enough to get by. Bakmut is useless, but both sides want it because it's like the unofficial Superbowl of Ukraine and we're seeing what happens when both sides are willing to hold a position at any cost.
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>>57544743
>winter offensive
they have like 2 days left?
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>>57544857
War is hard, political meddling sucks.
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>>57544893
Because I like the long form analysis. I don't need things summed up in two sentences.
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>>57544857
>"We are going to take a minute to talk about the shovel thing."
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>>57544743
laserpig mad a video imitating his style and it was better than laserpigs other videos, common anglosphere dub
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>>57544743
Daily reminder this faggot was until 2022 some gaymer streamer and has no military or academic credentials. He regurgitates opinions that can be found on Twitter or here.
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>>57544972
Dude works in defense procurement.
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>>57544932
then they need to start pushing the line if they want to be home for spring break
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>>57544932
winter ended 19 days ago
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>>57544972
daily reminder that russian shills deserve to be sent to the front and droned.
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>>57544743
Literally who
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>>57545005
Still cold in Donbas
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>>57544969
Fuck that faggot. First time I got recommended one of his vids was something called "Shut up about the f35". I was like "Well screw you too" and hid his channel forever without even watching the video. Goddamn dipshit.
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>>57544965
long form analysis of twitter posts is still just watered down twitter posts, but i respect your right to enjoy Paul Harrell thanksgivings special
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>>57545048
he's literally right though in that his main point is "half the shit about the plane is classified so we don't know what it can and can't do"
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>>57545135
Oh please. I don't need top secret access to know that the plane can't carry more fuel than an f-15 or something like that.
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>>57545005
>winter ended 19 days ago
meteorogical winter but astronomical will end on march 21
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>>57545192
?????????????????????
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>>57545096
Sure are a lot of twitter posts about the origins of the Bundeswehr's dysfunctional procurement process, huh?
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>>57545048
wtf i hate him now
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>>57544972
Yes, dont forget your military expert from the chuggers on /pol/, the greatest generation of high IQ mind the world offers. Also telegram channels are way more superior as twitter, full of expert, especially the runic ones.
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>>57545223
>ure are a lot of twitter posts about the origins of the Bundeswehr's dysfunctional procurement process, huh?
yes. i'm pretty sure i follow same OSINT guys as he.
are you implying he has inside sources?
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>>57545096
Twitter is a bitch to navigate.
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>31 post 18 posters
Its already starting lul
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>>57545286
Literally a sign of a good thread where you can strike up a conversation, in my experience. Either there's one guy who will respond to anything you say, or there's about 4 guys. Either way you will not be left hanging in a thread that's got some hawks like that.
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>>57545048
Lol shut the fuck up retard God damn
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>>57544972
>has no military or academic credentials
He works in defence procurement; you zigger. He switched from gaymer stuff (because there's plenty of that content on YouTube) to making power point videos about military analysis because this is his area of expertise.
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>>57544914
Thanks
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>>57545315
Lazerpig is a goddamn fag who needs a goddamn good beating, IMO. Dude needs to learn some respect before he makes those video titles.
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>>57545286
i figure perun must be worth watching if glavset cocksleeves are so fucking triggered by his stuff.
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>>57545340
stfu zigger.
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>>57545340
Lol naw he may be a faggot but he's a cool faggot that dabs on retarded ziggers such as yourself.
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>>57545369
>>57545391
I just hate him because his titles are insulting.
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>>57544743
Remember when this guy said the Russians was going to learn from their mistakes, and prepare for a offensive that would be tactically sound and cohesive?
Remember when he said they were going to train their soldiers properly, and equip them with state of the art gear?
What happened to his predictions?
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>>57545408
Are you implying that russians aren't humans?
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>>57545252
The TLDW of that F35 video is that people claiming it's bad are retards and reformers and people should shut the fuck up about it since half the shit is classified to begin with so it's hard to gauge how OP it is
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>>57545403
get over it fag.
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>>57545403
Get the stick out of your arse fucking homo nerd lmao
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>>57545414
No, Perun is the one that says they were.
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>>57545403
If you think his titles are offensive or whatever the fuck, then maybe get off the internet and this website since you're not equipped to not get butthurt over the smallest shit nigga
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>>57544932
An analysis of something that is over? Never heard of such a thing.
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>>57544863
Yeh, sure :)
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So we're 100% sure the supposed Russian build up in Belarus was a feint? (that the Ukies apparently didn't fall for anyways)
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>>57544893
Sum it up then
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>>57545525
Yep, Ukies pulled most troops away from the border because russians kept transporting the same 1000 mobiks in and out.
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>>57545157
But you do need top secret access to know how efficient it is at burning that fuel. Holy shit you retards are insufferable.
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>>57545210
Refers to the earth's axis tilt. Basically, the hemisphere is currently pointed away from the sun, on March 21'st it won't be.
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>>57545550
Oh fuck off. I can know what the maximum possible energy is from X amount of fuel. I can know that the f-35 isn't going to outrange the f-15 because it has less fuel and flies lower.
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Perun just copies what he’s read on Reddit and jazzes it up to make video out of it, right? I’ve always wondered if he’s a primary propaganda producer or just a guy working the secondary propaganda market? Lately I’ve been leaning towards the latter.
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>>57545669
What propaganda?
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>>57545316
Perun pls. Being a janitor at the ministry of defence building doesn't make you a defence anal-yst.
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>>57545678
For example, Task & Purpose (propaganda reader).
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>>57545678
That Russia is losing. He expects the people watching his videos don't know what's really going on,.
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>>57545669
He reads stuff from the public space, applies his defence analytics degree to it, then posts it. A lot of what he says sounds obvious in hindsight, but that's the hook. He says stuff that you only notice is obvious after hearing it.
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>>57545692
Are you saying that Russia is winning?
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>>57545316
>works in defence procurement; you

Never been proven.
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>>57545692
>>57545688
Hmmm, You guys sound like idiots, since both T&P and Perun have said pro russian shit when it's merited in all their videos.
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>>57545706
The hohols are only occupying a small part of our country, it's only a matter of time before we taking it back, we winning
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>>57545448
No I don't think I will :3 <3 UwU :*
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> weekly Perun thread
> weekly glavest, /pol/ and brown butthurt
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>>57545718
yeah its clear that a one hour long powerpoint is too much information to absorb for the indians and russians here. Because he isn't really a whole SLAVA UKRAINE CRIMEA NEXT WEEK type creator. I think a few videos ago he put it correctly: Russia has lost the war. The question remaining is whether or not Ukraine can win it.
And I think the answer is probably not if you define victory as return to 2014 borders or even broader, 2012 borders. Unless Russia faces a political collapse which does not seem likely aside from a potential untimely death of Putin.

My prediction for the course of the war is a summer offensive with limited success that splits the landbridge, Ukrainians take back most of Western Zaporozhia and all Kherson except maybe some sothern portions. But have no ability to storm Crimea and also cannot make gains in Luhansk or Donetsk and we end up back in attritional warfare of gradually diminishing intensity.
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>>57545907
>But have no ability to storm Crimea
There has been not a single time in history when someone managed to hold Crimea without controlling mainland connection
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>>57544972
He is a procurement guy, he probably has plenty of knowledge and experience to work with.
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How come almost all of the criticism is about his experience and not his points?
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>>57545408
>”Surely, the russians are retard but they can’t be THAT retard”
Common mistake when analyzing the russian military.
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>>57546005
lol
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>>57546005
Pretty pathetic gains for the amount of lost vehicles and men.
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>>57546005
Does Russia not hold significantly LESS territory than they did in March 2022?

And to call the assfucking they're receiving in Bugmutt and Vuglydar 'occasional setbacks'? That's pretty insulting to the vatniks, honestly.
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>>57545360
they can't make any decent arguments against the videos themselves so the only thing they have left is calling him a faggot and telling people not to watch them.
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LOL
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>>57545403
Look at his thinskinned bitch. How the hell do you even function in society if a goddamn video title or people on the internet calling you out affects you so much.
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>Open the video
>He starts it by making fun of Ron DeSantis and shilling Joe Biden
Passed!
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>>57546116
Enjoying your pudding?
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>>57544863
listened to the whole thing, he never says anything of the sort
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>>57546061
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Listened to this while driving today. It strengthened my opinion that Ukraine should do an orderly retreat from Bahkmut. It's too much of a meatgrinder and it no longer heavily favors the defenders. Instead they should pull back a little bit and prepare for a concentrated counter-attack towards Melitopol and the Azov sea.
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>>57544857
>losing man power parity in the next round of mobiks
>Russians willing to commit regulars, so kill as many as possible to reduce the experience pool for said incoming mobiks to learn anything from
>allowing Russians to disengage and reorganize the actual offensive capable combat power undesirable if there's going to be a move on the South
>still to muddy to do shit beside this

>>57546347
Since open source commentators are stating the obvious, which will be obvious even to the Russians, dangling Bakhmut in front of them as imminently evacuating so they continue to sunk cost commit experienced formations is sucking man power that otherwise will be committed to defending against that kind of Melitopol offensive. Those experienced troops down in Kherson were the difference between orderly withdrawal across the river and a rout. That core is limited close to the initial invasion figure and paring down the kind of numbers they're doing in Bakhmut is significant not just in terms of body count.
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>>57545669
Why do jazzed up reddit posts trigger you so much then? is it just the get-reaction to Australians online?
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This guy is clearly on the take from glowies
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>>57546061
>>57546061
>Does Russia not hold significantly LESS territory than they did in March 2022?
You better believe it.
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>>57544863
I like to make stuff up too.
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every thread I go in there are deleted posts. jannies must not be enjoying this year long raid.
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>>57544966
anon please give me shovel lore.
>please
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>>57545046
Just the way he likes it. And is contractually obligated to be.
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>>57546565
He does propaganda. I’ll admit it’s one of the better propaganda producers on YouTube, but I’m tired of Western-style pro-Ukrainian propaganda. Russian media propaganda is also boring but sometimes their clowns can be amusing at the very least. I’m just not the right consumer demographic for propaganda. You, evidently, are.
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>>57546944
Russian propaganda consists of memes. Western propaganda consists of dead Russians.
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>>57545403
The fuck autism is this? I swear it's the worst thing about autism. Half are like "How could you spell Kolkata Calcutta that is so insulting I will never speak to you again" and the other half are Laserpig because they also have adhd?
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>>57544743
Wait, Russian winter offensive actually happened? That miling around Bakhmut and whatever the fuck they were doing in Vuhlebar was this feared winter offensive?
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>>57545669
No. He will find Osint sources to support shit he professionally knows in order to release information so his boss doesn't disappear him
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>>57546994
Hey, don't forget the 100 metres they gained in the forests south of Kreminna!
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>>57546994
I mean, it's mid March now. We're in Spring. Vatniks murdered Punxsutawney Phil's Canadian cousin so they could get 6 more weeks of winter. They STILL couldn't get Bugmutt.
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>>57547042
I just thought that it simply never happened or something, just some probing attacks and trying to take Bakhmut, when that failed by mid-february I figured they cancelled it
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>>57545669
he's a stealthy propagandist.
a little smarter than the slava kiyvi mutants.
you can actually listen to him for 1 hour.
obviously, his conclusion everytime is that Russia is losing, Russia is done and slava nafo.
it just takes him 1 hour of spinning and half truths to get there.
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>>57545525
god fucking damnit. they are there to siphone the belarus army of equipment and incorporate it into the vatnik army. they are preparing full officialy occupation. Why is this such a mind bending concept to understand? Other then some recon groups poking the border regions to see what the ukranians have done there has been absolutely zero build up of any kind there. Everybody scattered across the country in different cities across bases doing prep work.
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>>57545408
Literally nobody expected vatniks to be this retarded.
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>>57547075
Don't feel bad, anon. You expected a winter offensive to look like what you thought it would be. Most people have an idea of what that would look like that would match. But that's the problem. When you're dealing with a military as hobbled and incompetent as Russia's...that is what a winter offensive in this war looks like. Hordes of mobiks devouring drone grenades, and armored columns being abandoned at the first inkling of enemy contact.

At this point, it's just a waiting game for the Western armor to get there so the ukies can mop up this embarrassment of a military.
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>>57547146
/k/ope, seethe and dilate trannyfag
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>>57545408
>Remember when this guy said the Russians was going to learn from their mistakes, and prepare for a offensive that would be tactically sound and cohesive?
He was not wrong. They tried but fail (again)
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>>57545450
Everyone makes mistakes.
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>>57547236
anyone pro that guy is wearing a wig, let me tell you that.
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>>57544743
Russia will win or else the whole world will be nuked!!! This is not a bluff
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>>57544893
Ok, go ahead. Sum up the video in 2 sentences.
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>>57547641
Russia is losing, Ukraine is winning, only trust CIA and NATO approved OS intelligence sources like Oryx blog which is run by the same people who worked at Bellingcat which is a CIA operation
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>>57544743
is Putin getting indicted? I feel like the walls are closing in with this bombshell
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>>57548083
he's literally doing car races on streets of Mariupol
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>It's only a twenty minute drive from the trenches to somewhere you can get a pizza.

I hope the delivery guy's are getting hazard pay.
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>>57548230
Well, I guess the HIMARS guys have their work cut out for them.
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>>57545340
lol i know thats you gonzalo
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>>57545252
i wish i was dog (good boy)
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>>57546736
they delete their own posts so it looks like an jannie did it
its an inside job anon
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>>57548502
that doesn't make any sense if they're getting 1 ruble per reply. not everyone can see dead posts
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>>57547146
His ongoing conclusion since march or so is that ukraine will win if the west supplies them properly and lose otherwise. He also thinks the west is currently not supplying them sufficiently
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>>57548064
Tell me you didnt watch the video without telling me you didnt watch the video
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>>57544754
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>>57546881
>Western media is stupid
>Rifles and shovels somehow magically became just shovels, because journalists are lazy
>Rusnigs still have rifles
So what everyone except CNN already knew.
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>>57545048
I want you to know I appreciate your sense of humor.
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>>57548680
I stopped watching his videos because he’s stopped talking about things within the supposed domain of his competency

And when he talks about things at an amateur level he relies entirely on Ukrainian and western propaganda
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>>57546964
Whose flag is more schizo?
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>>57544972
It's kinda surreal to see the guy who used to make the Dominions tutorials I watched discussed on /k/ now.
He is legitimately qualified though.
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>>57546881
>>57548689
Russian artillery superiority has slackened to the point where instead of driving the Ukies away through making their position miserable to live in, Russian troops occasionally have to LARP as the Death Korps of Krieg and dig them out the hard way.
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>>57548064
So you're just upset that he won't pretend Russia is winning for you?
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>>57547042
>Vatniks murdered Punxsutawney Phil's Canadian cousin so they could get 6 more weeks of winter.
They got the Chornobayivka time loop instead.
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>>57548774
So you’re just upset that people don’t uncritically accept western media and glownigger media narratives?
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>>57548843
Twelve months straight of being objectively correct on all accounts does a lot for the glowies' credibility.
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>>57544743
Shit, ukies really are high on copium if don't understand that there were no offensive form Russian yet and all they do is just grind ukies with arty and only preparing for an assault
ZSU are loosing like 1k people every day and that's why Zeleboba announced 38th wave of mobilization. At some point ukraine run out of people and THEN Russians offensive begin
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>>57544743
I liked this bit
>UK MoD says some mobiks are being forced to attack with nothing but rifles and shovels
>mass media: RUSSIA IS CHARGING UKRAINIAN TRENCHES WITH NOTHING BUT SHOVELS
i fucking hate journalists so much.
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>>57548877
Objectively correct about what?

Western media won’t report on the press gangs going around Ukraine forcing teenagers to the front and accounts of foreign legionaries saying the Ukrainian casualties are enormous
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>>57548906
I know this is a troll post, but for any rts enthusiasts that think that's a legitimate strategy in a real war is retarded
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>>57548906
You suck at trolling
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>>57548843
There's a lot less cognitive dissonance when your mental model of the war is 'Russia is stuck in a quagmire' rather than '2 more weeks until inevitable victory zisters'
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>>57548916
You mean the fake videos from telegram?
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>>57548916
>Western media won’t report on the press gangs going around Ukraine forcing teenagers to the front
Yes, the people getting vanned in Odessa and only Odessa are definitely a DNR-tier press ganging, and not 5th columnists being rounded up.
>accounts of foreign legionaries saying the Ukrainian casualties are enormous
Wow, a bunch of GWOT guys get to a real war and go "wow, this shit sucks", color me astounded and demoralized.
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>>57548959
>reddit larpers mad about war
>professional soldiers mad about Slavic incompetence
>stay at home armchair larpers mad about zogbots seize the opportunity to call 'em pussies
As expected.
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>>57548948
>>57548959
>”THATS FAKE”
>But the 10:1 kill death ratio in Bakhmut is totally real, there’s been half a million Russian casualties, so is the coming spring offensive guys, that’s totally real and going to happen
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>>57548989
>stay at home armchair larpers mad about zogbots seize the opportunity to call 'em pussies
I said nothing of the fucking sort, thank you very much, so let me make this easy for you to understand: the greatest constant in all the history of warfare is "the front sucks". If you ever ask a man on the front how the war is going, he will tell you "it sucks". When you have a guy with experience, he can tell you "this sucks more than Iraq", but ultimately, that's to be expected.

>>57549027
nice strawman, I'm sure it sounded good in your head.
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>>57549110
Ukraine claims to be killing 1000+ per day while taking barely any casualties

Meanwhile western observers near Bakhmut have said the Ukrainian brigades they worked with or observed have taken enormous casualties and have had to be reconstituted multiple times
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>>57549150
Yes the telegram sources are true and are totally in the front lines. Nigger.
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>>57549150
Casualty rates are hard to know for a civilian in a country far away from the war, but by the measures we can observe Russia is doing much worse than most of the failed invasions of the last 100 years.
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>>57549177
do the world a favor, open with NTA if you're going to jump in and make a tard of yourself.

>>57549150
Who is "Ukraine" in this? The government? Last I heard, they weren't releasing casualty figures at all. Or are you referring to some Telegram account that may as well be Intel Slava U?

>Ukrainian brigades they worked with or observed have taken enormous casualties and have had to be reconstituted multiple times
Wow, the front fucking sucks, imagine my shock.
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>>57549272
The Ukrainian military releases figures daily and claims 164,910 KIA which would imply over half a million casualties
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>>57549027
Why are you incapable of addressing anything said directly, and instead have to go off on tangents each reply?

We both know the answer, I just want the thought to cross your mind again before you make another disingenuous post. I mean, I know you're going to, it's just funny.
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>>57549369
1: Admissions, dipshit, not claims.
2: No, that's not fucking kills, that's "unrecoverable" casualties, as the Slavs put it. Casket or medical discharge, he's not going back to the front.
3: Of fucking course kill claims are exaggerated, this happens in every fucking war. Need I remind you that Russia claims to have destroyed the entire Ukrainian air force several times over?
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>>57549493
>>57549471
What’s the difference between “obviously fake” claims by the Ukrainian military and claims by intelligence agencies?

Nothing. Glowies are not trustworthy
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>>57549369
Can you cite these?
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>>57549596
Ukraine pravda

Minusrus uses them for their casualties calcaulations
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>>57548681

Can I get the original footage?
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>>57544972
>he's so mindbroken by twitter that anything that draws him away from there is le bad
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>>57544743
>If the other side can't tell whether your offensive has gone in or not, that's pretty embarrassing
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>>57549878
>Baby have you put it in yet?
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>>57545408
What is the tactical advantage of making up dumb shit? What is the tactical advantage of dabbing on your own military to try and make an anonymous youtuber look bad?
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>>57548708
I repeat my statement. This video used russian sources as well just like all his other ones
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>>57548708
So you didnt watch, and have formed incorrect assumptions of his conclusions based on your preconceived ideas
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>>57549978
I don’t have time to watch 1 hour video essays if it’s based off of nothing
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>>57550005
But you have time to seethe
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>>57548740
Which is a serious problem for Russia since they rely heavily on the work their artillery is doing. Their infantry was mostly bad save a few elite units at war's beginning and most of those good troops have since been noticeably denuded, witness the Vuhledar shit-show.
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>Perun video comes out
>vatnigs proceed to shit their pants crying and screaming about fake news
lol lmao, every time.
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>>57545624
Ironically, a good portion of the video is about people like you, who take one "hard" stat and use it to justify their stance on something, while largely being ignorant of how modern combat works
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>>57548731
Surreal, isn't it? We really live in crazy times.
Although I kind of miss his dominions videos, GC doesn't make the anymore either and Lucid is basically the last big one left making any.
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>>57545624
What are you talking about? The F-35 has more internal fuel capacity, based on public figures, than the F-15 at 18.2k vs 13.5k. Combine that with having one versus two engines, without drop tanks the F-35 has better range.
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>>57544972
I would argue that the exact flavor of autism needed to win multiple games of dominions is exactly the kind of qualification needed for military logistics.
>>57550504
Something about Lucid just gets on my nerves, and it's hard to quantify.
I'm glad for him that he's exploded in popularity, its just hilarious to go look at his videos. One week Jinn with a few thousand views, the next week it's Ukraine and a million.
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>>57544857
He had to do an entire bit about how retards thought that Russia was attacking Bakhmut with just shovels. He then criticises the media for saying this because the source they cite doesn't say this shit.
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>>57547641
>Ok, go ahead. Sum up the video in 2 sentences.
1) Russians are weetodded fetal alcohol addled shitwits.
2) Dey gon' lose.
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>>57547420
sorry, your transmission is breaking up...all I heard was "Russia will be nuked by the whole world."
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>>57548906
If Russia were winning, why are we even talking about shitholes like Pisky or Bakhmut or Tinyvillagekov instead of marveling about how thoroughly and absolutely they control Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson and Zaporizhia?
You cretinous halfwit!
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>>57548906
I came here to laugh at you.
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>>57550789
>without drop tanks
Uhuh.
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>>57550270
Sounds like you're saying his argument is that we know nothing, therefore anything is possible. It's not. It's like the anti war commentators who say we don't know the culture of russia, we don't know what we're dealing with, etc. There's this tremendous assumption of ignorance, which ironically displays a lack of self awareness on the part of the accuser.
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Fucking bizarre how this guy triggers the shills here to the degree he does...
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>>57551958
>why are we even talking about shitholes like Pisky or Bakhmut or Tinyvillagekov
>instead of Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson and Zaporizhia?
Ask yourself what the precondition(s) now is/are for Russia to consider the latter as an immediate obtainable objective? What must first occur?
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>>57550005
You literally see the sources in the slides for his data that he uses in his analysis. Are you even trying?
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>>57552062
Yes, and? Referring back to >>57545157, this anon is factually incorrect as the F-35 has better internal fuel, less fuel consumption, and can also have drop tanks. inb4 "but muh stealth"
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>>57546061
>Bugmutt
>Vuglydar
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>>57552173
>F-35 can also have drop tanks
Gotcha now. No it can't. It doesn't have any tanks rated for it. Go ahead and look. There's no pics of an f-35 with drop tanks. Just some CGI proposals and rumors of Israel trying to make one. The f-15 always uses drop tanks. You will almost never see one doing any kind of mission without drop tanks.
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>>57552158
Not fuck up on day 1 and spend the next year pretending they didn't want Kiev in the first place?
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>>57544743
Too much faggy talking, i need /k/ino footage
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>>57548916
>Why won't Western media report on [made up shit I read on telegram]?
It's a mystery, anon.
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>>57544754
/thread
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>>57549150
>have taken enormous casualties and have had to be reconstituted multiple times
That's how unit rotation and force regeneration works.
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>>57548916
>why isn't BBC covering these bullshit claims I heard on RT?
The world wonders. Post guns you own.
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>>57552278
No one outside of 4chan or Reddit make these claims. You people make them up and then attack those claims you just created. In reality, Russians simply don’t talk about it. Now the main narrative is that they’re effectively at war with America and Western Europe (mainly America).
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>>57552398
Russia themselves made the claim that a decapitation strike would have the bulk of the fighting over within two weeks. They made this claim to their own commanders in their official comms:
>The synchronisation matrix of the 1st Guards Tank Army (Western Military District), for example, captured near Kyiv in March 2022, stated that by D+10 the force would ‘proceed to the blocking and destruction of individual scattered units of the Armed Forces and the remnants of nationalist resistance units’.
( https://static.rusi.org/359-SR-Ukraine-Preliminary-Lessons-Feb-July-2022-web-final.pdf )
Putin kept the planning secret from many of those who would be crucial in carrying it out, did little or no red-teaming, and assumed blue-sky outcomes even in his worst case scenarios. The RF fucked up on day 1 and has spent the past year trying to claim that Kyiv and Odesa weren't debacles.
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>>57544893
because savoring vatnik obliteration has no timetable
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>>57544765
>>57544880
>brain-dead idiot zoomers
Do the planet a favor, and become an hero.
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I typed this for a Russia invaded Ukraine because US invaded Iraq thread that got deleted.
Suck my dick, posting it here.
>America
>Iraq
>2003
Iraq had previously tried to pull a "Crimea" by invading and annexing Kuwait as "historically Iraqi lands".
America said naw.
We kicked the shit out of Saddam and let him keep running Iraq.
>Saddam thought he couldn't keep the Iranians and US from fucking him up without nuclear/biological/chemical weapons
>All that shit is expensive
>Just pretend you have a weapons program to troll everybody while you live a life of luxury as despot for life
Then 9/11 happened and the west got real, real fucking serious about Muslim terrorism.
Iraq was naturally the ideal target for regime change.
>Iraq swore up and down they didn't have WMD after trying to appear strong/crazy by having WMD for decades.
>The west had bad humint they didn't analyze critically for political reasons.
Shock and awe, bitches!
Soviet Union dissolves.
Russia:
UKRAINE CAN BE A COUNTRY!
GIVE UP NUKES, WE GUARANTEE BORDERS!
Y'all are NAZIS! We're taking Crimea! And Donbass!
Ukraine was never a country!
We're taking it all!
>Fails conquest
>Whines about NATO
>Threatens nuclear war because they can't beat Ukraine

I'd like to take a moment to point out that Russia fostered the neonazi retardation in Ukraine by chasing militant right wingers out of Russia and into their then puppet state of Ukraine because it made Russia more stable and helped undermine Ukraine at home and abroad.
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>>57552158
Why would they need to take bukbrokmutt to take Kyiv? Or Kherson? Or Odessa? Look at a map retard
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>>57544743
>1 hour
Into the trash it goes, if you can't convey information in a digestible short period of time, you're not worth listening to
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>>57546116
Why wouldn't you sling shit at traitors who still think appeasement can work?
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>>57552601
based tikok stories chad
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>>57552611
You've never been in a briefing room in your life
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>>57544914
Thanks anon, saved me time, but will probably watch tomorrow while I'm cooking or something.
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>>57552548
>thread that got deleted.
It was a thread? I thought it was just one poster being off-topic in some other dude's thread.
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>>57550005
>it's based off of nothing
>please ignore the sources and citations he includes with the video
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>>57544972
Good to know anyone can pivot and wildly succeed in this world. Thanks anon for confirming this. He is inspiring to us all as an example of growth and change. Bless you.
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>>57552668
I mean, that's the theme of the post the retarded vatnik made that I was replying to. So yeah, he was probably off topic.
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>>57545096
I don't use twitter
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>>57552620
Neither have you if a 1 hour PP presentation on a complex topic is enough to make you start getting antsy. Do you have any idea how long I have to sit through presentations on basic infantry practices every other week? Sit down, scrub.
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>>57552158
Bro, that's the point. If the Russians were succeeding they wouldn't have stalled out trying to take Pisky or Bakhmut or Tinyvillagekov. They'd already have them and we'd be taking about the Russian offensives towards Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson, and Zaporizhia. Not launching your big attack because you've been trying (and failing) to reach the jumping off point for eight months is what failure looks like.
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>>57552601
Zoomer attention span.
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>>57552398
>t. guy pretending they didn't want Kyiv in the first place
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>>57552262
why is this an issue when we have tanker drones and will soon have stealth tanker drones
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>>57552744
>Tinyvillagekov

Blyatsiivka.
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>>57552278
>Not fuck up on day 1
>>57552592
>Why would they need to take bukbrokmutt to take Kyiv?
>>57552744
>stalled out trying to take Pisky or Bakhmut or Tinyvillagekov
Can any of you internet generals figure out what the precondition is for moving on any of those major cities? I'll give you all another chance to try and figure out the strategic reality of the situation. This isn't to say that one side or the other is winning. Just what exactly is it that Russia needs to accomplish before they could possibly move on the capitol.
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>>57553276
Holy shit you’re retarded haha
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>>57553318
>No, I'm not going to venture an answer, but you're defo big dumdum retard, he, he
>Gotem!
Yeah
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>>57553335
Yeah this is 4chan, not a college debate hall. You’re retarded. You’re also doing the gay faggot thing where you pretend there’s some super intelligent answer to you gay retarded question and act like everyone else is a faggot for not seeing it

Why don’t you post your ebin warrior’s secret? Or are you worried it’s obviously retarded
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>>57553344
ok
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>>57549878
Kek
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>>57552882
Seems like you've got it all figured out. Looks like Lazerpig was wrong to assume nobody understands the f-35. This was the real issue all along.
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>>57544754
Based.
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>>57552601
Do you read any books?
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>>57553276
The preconition is to invade from the north and not waste time and men on taking land to add in the southeast.
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>>57544972
Only some leftypol retard would think being a Dominions enjoyer undermines someone's authority in any way.
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>>57544972
>you can't work defense procurement and enjoy vidya
Why not?
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>>57544743
Perun is the dryest most boring fucking commentator in the entire ukraine war grift sphere
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>>57554272
my cock is dry and boring
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>>57552620
>You've never been in a briefing room in your life
unfortunately I have
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>>57554420
>working draft

heh
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>>57546994
They did attack all over the frontline to be fair, except in Kherson and that Zaporzive place.
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>>57555059
They attacked in Zaporizhia. Did you forget about Grant offensive where Russians were two hours away from taking Orkhiv and Ukraine was already building trenches in Zaporizhia city? And then turns out Russian just sent few hundred mobiks to die on fields next to first village
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>>57554272
Nah that's Anders Puck Nielsen
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>>57555166
Shit, was the offensive such a shitfest even I didn't notice?
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>>57555221
I think we got used to shit offensives and now only hear about the really shit ones.
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>>57555221
>the offensive such a shitfest even I didn't notice?

Basically, yes.
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>>57552398
Russian generals are shitting on each other for not being able to take Kiev but they totally didn't want it :)
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>>57555059
They've been bombing random parts of Kherson the whole time with some weird ass lower than arab tier shit
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>>57544743
perun is the natural hypertrophy of /k/

the best information packaged in a rambly annoyingly long format. brevity is a talent and these niggas got none of it which ironically makes me not want to hear their takes
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>>57553276
>Just what exactly is it that Russia needs to accomplish before they could possibly move on the capitol.
Strategically? They'd need to have an acquiescent majority, or in the best case scenario they'll be dealing with stiff military resistance all the way there and then partisan flare-ups for the rest of their occupation. And the zeitgeist in Ukraine right now suggests that the battle for hearts and minds was a decisive rout for the RF.
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>>57544754
fuck no, faggot.
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What nationality is this guy?
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>>57555856
The world wonders.
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>>57555928
That’s the most impressive thing I’ve ever seen
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>>57555557
Fag
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>>57555928
Fucking aussies man.
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>>57546994
Maybe you have been putting attention to Bahkmut and Vuhlebar due to mainstream media, but yes, the Russians did attempt a general offensive in all the fronts, but those two fronts were the most hot and resource applied.
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>>57544981
Nope.
No evidence of that.
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>>57555965
>>57555985
This is Perun writing his slides for next week.
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>>57556017
All the proofs I need is the huge amount of malding glavsats that emerge every Sunday when he releases a new deck of slides.
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>>57550970
>Something about Lucid just gets on my nerves, and it's hard to quantify.
Yeah I totally understand that, quite a few have that issue with him.

>I'm glad for him that he's exploded in popularity, its just hilarious to go look at his videos. One week Jinn with a few thousand views, the next week it's Ukraine and a million.
Yes, yes it is. I'm glad he decided to make use of it, considering I really like had ukraine videos.

>>57555557
>the best information packaged in a rambly annoyingly long format.
What are you even talking about? He isn't rambling excessively, covers substantial amounts of information per video and always notes the key points in his slides.

>>57555928
>the one on the right that stops before anything happens
Always makes the webm for me.
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>>57545408

He's not in charge of Russian strategic planning, it seems...
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>>57552158
If they weren't shit they would be able to take Kharkiv in a day
It's literally less than 50 miles from Belgorod
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>>57555221
Unironically yes
They stalled out and returned to constant small scale probing attacks with a few days
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>>57555557
>takes
This is how I know your opinion is worthless
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>>57555557
You're just making excuses for your own ADHD. You did horribly in school.
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>>57555557
I don't think you know what actual rambling is. In fact I don't think you're cognizant enough for that, you just use it for anything that goes over the TikTok video time limit.
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>>57552097
It's long-form, properly sourced breakdowns of why the Russians are performing as poorly as they are. No memes, no hyperbole, no insults, just cold, to the point facts and assessments on a corrupt and rotted institution. They bought into the hype and have their egos bruised, and all they can do is lash out.
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>playing diablo 4 beta
>group up with some randos, we have VC
>1 guy just keeps autistically spouting random rome 2 shit
>makes 2 guys leave
>starts talking about ukraine war
>says the ukraine is losing and the US should force a peace deal
>russia is going to win, ukraine and US/NATO can't stand up to russia when it goes full strength
>tell him he's retarded, that the heart of the RU army got ripped out last year when VDV, spetznas and even the contract soldiers in training regiments were wiped out, 1st GTA got absolutely wrecked in kharkov offensive and they lost large numbers of irreplacable T-82BVM
>he says that the losses are in fact replacable, the russian army just "bloodied" itself to gain experience and will eventually steam roll ukraine
>he believes the US military in it's current state cannot stand up to russia and would be steamrolled in a peer v. peer war
>he is an american in the rural midwest that votes republican
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>>57545974
they don't watch the videos and just shit on people with rapid assumptions / projections about the content
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>>57552398
>effectively at war with America and Western Europe
they wish this was reality, because if they were still standing while being at war with the entirety of the Western world then they might be as tough as they love to think they are
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>>57552651
lol'd
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>>57548064
>only trust CIA and NATO approved OS intelligence sources like Oryx blog which is run by the same people who worked at Bellingcat which is a CIA operation
Lel, from all the people I've seen using Oryx, he is abut the only one who goes this in depth on Oryx shortcomings and what you should keep in mind if using it as a source.
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>>57557554
Of course. This is exactly what I would expect you to experience. Your republican party are basically outright treasonous, or treasonous by complacency. From what I can tell you can't get midwesterners to listen to elementary school so how the fuck to foreign powers get them to listen to effluent?
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>>57544972
>some random ozzie gaymer youtuber has better understanding of strategy and military procurement than entire russian DoD.
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>>57544875
Probably because he’s dealing with reviewed facts instead of speculation.
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>>57544972
Psssst you forgot your "literally reads out Wikipedia" bit
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>>57545426
>The TLDW of that F35 video is that people claiming it's bad are retards and reformers and people should shut the fuck up about it since half the shit is classified to begin with so it's hard to gauge how OP it is
Why hasn't some tard leaked half of the fun shit about F-35s in the War Thunder forums? Are Gayjin actually a CIA psyop?
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>>57549027
>so is the coming spring offensive guys, that’s totally real and going to happen
Oh cool, so we're back to
>lmao kek where is your kherson counteroffensive? REKT
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>>57552601
Based retard
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>>57555557
too long. didn't read.
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>>57552097
To be fair, there's really nothing to discuss either. He doesn't give any hot takes or whatever. Just a general overview of the situation that any reasonable person can agree on.
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>>57544743
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>>57555928
>The world wonders.
funny phrase
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_world_wonders
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>>57544857
>both sides want it because it's like the unofficial Superbowl of Ukraine and we're seeing what happens when both sides are willing to hold a position at any cost
But muh 100:1 K/D ratio!
What a retarded move. The diminishing returns from defending that shithole town is going to bite them in the ass. The should have pulled out as soon as the casualties started to increase and preserve equipment and experenced soldiers for the overly hyped spring offensive
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>>57566161
If the Ukes don't do a Bakhmut in Bakhmut, then they'd just have to do a Bakhmut in Kramatorsk or some other city
The defender has to choose SOMEWHERE to make their stand
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>>57566161
>The should have pulled out as soon as the casualties started to increase and preserve equipment and experenced soldiers for the overly hyped spring offensive
Depends on what is causing the increased casualties on the Ukie side.
Based on the recent whining from Wagner about not getting enough artillery ammo it might be that most of the increased Ukie losses were mainly due to artillery.
In that case retreating might just let the Russians spend that artillery somewhere else and cause just as much or more Ukie losses elsewhere.

tl:dr; Not a great place to be but in war someone will inevitably get the shit jobs.
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>>57544743
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>>57544972
It's a fact that Dominions 5 Thrones of Ascension players are the maximum IQ gamers
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>>57555557
>i don't like thing
okay
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>>57544914
That is the opposite of what he said. It is far from useless, but it doesnt remotely merit the effort either side put into it, in the same way that engaging in a deathmatch in exchange for a pack of ibuprofen probably would have seen you better of braving the headache
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Tell me about Perun, why does he make the glavset screech and moan so much?
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>>57545313
Or there's a literal glavset employee trying to slide the thread.
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>>57544765
>remember when he made a video about how russia was still a serious threat and all the ukies were ass hurt for a week?
Pepperidge farms remembers.
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>>57571895
>makes fun military analyses about the war in ukraine
>uses russia's own sources to provide the most conservative estimates where possible
>forced to conclude that russia is retarded every video despite this
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>>57555557
it's an hour, m8
how are you alive, did you only graduate high school or something? Most college lectures are 2-3 hours of way less interesting content. You just get used to it, infodumps are often boring.
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>>57571895
The concept of backing your argument up with publicly available evidence causes them physical pain
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>>57548502
>inside job
You don't need to be a janny to delete your own posts, just threads. There's a time limit but you can do it yourself.
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>>57545759
You do realize you can win and still lose. The US steam rolled Iraq but no one counts that entire situation as a win. Russia can't even get the steamrolling part done to get to the hard part. How do you think they are going to win? What strategic objectives do you think they are going to meet other than holding some more land? This is why everyone says Russia has already lost; because there is no non-radical outcome to this war that favors Russia. This isn't Georgia, Chechnya, or Crimea.
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>>57552097
I like it most when he quotes the Kremlin's own RT to prove them wrong. Its great.
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I read an article some guy did saying the Ukraine War was just like the Iraq war. I read the article and he mentions Ukraine in one sentence. The rest is about the Iraq War. I read it several times trying to understand what his point was and I came to a conclusion of what I thought he meant
>Iraq War was started on flimsy pretence (ignoring that Iraq did have WMD's and this was covered up by the US because of the injuries and the ineptitude of the location of all the WMDs)
>Ukraine War was started on flimsy pretence (Muh NATO borders, muh starting a war to avoid a war starting there, demilitarisation, neutrality, biolabs, missile bases, Nazis)
But then the rest of it falls apart because the rest doesn't plan out (and I struggle to make a connection)
>Iraq War has the US and UK + friends stomp the Iraqi's in, literally over in six months
>Phase two begins of old style colonialism where you occupy it and run it yourself
>This was a dumb idea and US + UK should have just replaced the leadership and walked away and claimed total victory instead of expanding the war
>The reason it was a dumb idea is there were no allies for them to call upon from neighbouring nations and neighbouring nations were happy to help their enemies
This is what happened but Ukraine, as I said, is different
>Russia hasn't defeated the Ukrainian military and moved onto phase two
So I extrapolated this
>Putin was dumb and tried to do an old school colonialism total control grab
>He should have just gone for regime change and left after that (the issue is he tried to do just that but shh)
>He is struggling now because Ukraine has allies supporting them and Russia doesn't (like USA/UK in Iraq)
But the US/UK achieved military objectives and THEN made the decision to hang around for a long time. Russia hasn't even achieved that, so they can't hang around because they've not even beaten the conventional military yet.

Is he saying Russia will win and then be fucked because of support to Ukraine?
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>>57572162
Its a stupid comparison anyway because the US installed a new government in Iraq, left in 2011, and the government is still there; its Afghanistan where the US failed its strategic goals.
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>>57572215
Replying to myself here to expand my thoughts, but I suppose you could say that Russia taking Crimea (and Donestk and Luhansk via 5th columnists) was more like the Iraq war, and the invasion is more like Aghanistan. The first action had a clear goal of taking Crimea, and secondary goals of taking Luhansk and Donetsk. However, they went too deep with no actual achievable goal in the current invasion, and they're suffering the consequences for that now against a determined opponent.
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Bump
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>>57572122
The funny thing is according to /pol/ RT is wrong whenever they insult Russia
>Russians officials on RT say they wanted Kiev
>NO THEY DIDN'T SHUT UP RT IS BIASED AND PRO WEST
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>>57544743
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>>57571895
To Russians, objective truth is a painful and alien thing to experience. It’s not something they are mentally equiped to deal with.
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>>57557554
>>he says that the losses are in fact replacable, the russian army just "bloodied" itself to gain experience and will eventually steam roll ukraine
Has this ever happened in human history? At any level close to the ass-beating Russia got in 2022?
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>>57552097
There's two types of people that simp for Putin:
>the kind that form their opinion based on emotionaly-laden 10m meme videos
>the kind that form their opinion based on 2h-long emotionaly-laden "documentaries"
Both feel their identity challenged on a fundamental level by PowerPoint presentations.
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>>57544765
a guy wanking for over an hour about obvious shit isn't interesting.
>>57545403
this is the correct way to feel about clickbait, if you don't feel insulted by it then your drooling mobilefag retardation is the reason they had to waterproof phones.
>>57545693
Perun, stop jacking off, we all know you make these threads yourself.
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>>57576841
What clickbait?
Take your meds, schizo.
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>>57576868
"End of the Tank? - ATGMs and shoulder fired anti-tank weapons in Ukraine"
"Ukraine vs Russia - Who wins a war of hardware attrition?"
"End of the Helicopter? (no) - MANPADS and helicopter losses in Ukraine"
stupid provocative questions and statements in your title are the epitome of clickbait. You have brain rot, become an hero.
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>>57576841
>>57576910
Hello tourist - twitter is back that way.
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>>57576483
>Has this ever happened in human history?
Does it matter? He's probably the kind of guy who believes Russia experience only a 5% GDP contraction despite consumer spending, every company and bank, manufacturing and foreign trade experiencing a 40-60% reduction even according to Russia's own (extremely doctored) stats.
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>>57554268
>work defense procurement

No evidence except for his seat sniffers claiming such.
Not that working as a janitor or sysadmin for a government building changes any of that.
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>>57571895
Truth is illegal in russia
unless is goverment "truth"
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>>57576910
The point is answering the provocative question, and in the helicopter case he literally answers in the title.
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>>57577001
>not liking some youtube fag makes you a tourist
I've been here since 2007, newfag. You fuckers are the cancer that killed this site. You should have lurked for a few years before making your first post.
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>>57544765
Imagine letting hating ziggers force you to watch distilled reddit midwit content
My man over here eating shit to own putler
Good goy
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>>57553276
>Can any of you internet generals figure out what the precondition is for moving on any of those major cities?
I dunno, digging trenches in the Red Forest or something?
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>>57577204
If you didn't have a lot riding on this you wouldn't be all over the thread screeching about it. You're about as transparent as your mom's panties.
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>>57553276
1. it not be mud season, it be now.
2. ???
3. Profit.
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>>57544893
The TikTok brain
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>>57577646
More like the vkontakte brain.
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>>57577618
I've made three posts, and you seem awfully defensive of your fellow cancerous faggot, I suspect you are in fact the one who is mad, not I.
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>>57572162
>Iraq did have WMD's and this was covered up
Sure. That happened.
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>>57577782
Anon. It did happen. And there was a reason why it was covered up.
The WMDs dated back to the Iran-Iraq war and could be traced back to the American/European sources.



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