ITT: Oddities & Curiosities
>>56902658Wasn't this rifle in Duke Nukem 3d?
>Among other weapons, I had an extraordinary rifle that carried a half-pound percussion shell—this instrument of torture to the hunter was not sufficiently heavy for the weight of the projectile; it only weighed twenty pounds: thus, with a charge of ten drachms [270 grains] of powder, behind a half-pound shell, the recoil was so terrific, that I spun around like a weathercock in a hurricane. I really dreaded my own rifle, although I had been accustomed to heavy charges of powder, and severe recoil for some years. None of my men could fire it, and it was looked upon with a species of awe, and it was named "Jenna-El-Mootfah" (Child of a Cannon) by the Arabs, which being far too long a name for practice, I christened it the "Baby;" and the scream of this "Baby" loaded with a half-pound shell was always fatal. It was far too severe, and I very seldom fired it, but it is a curious fact, that I never fired a shot with that rifle without bagging: the entire practice, during several years, was confined to about twenty shots. I was afraid to use it; but now and then it was absolutely necessary that it should be cleaned, after months of staying loaded. On such occasions my men had the gratification of firing it, and the explosion was always accompanied by two men falling on their backs (one having propped up the shooter), and the "Baby" flying some yards behind them. This rifle was made by Holland & Holland, of Bond Street, and I could highly recommend it for the Goliath of Gath, but not for the men of A.D. 1866.>—Sir Samuel White Baker, The Albert N'Yanza, Great Basin Of The Nile
>>56903325holy shit the guns i drew in primary school exist
The "Day's Patent" truncheon. Solid brass. Not only can you beat the crap out of your opponent with the bird's head, but it also has a single-shot 12ga in the handle...Mr. Day tried to get this approved by the London Metropolitan Police for duty use, but needless to say that didn't happen.
>>56903679This compartment in the head was used to store extra percussion caps.
>>56903700barrel unscrews for reloading
A 3bbl shotgun is rare enough, but this also appears to have ejectors.
>>56902658Explain that slavshit.
>>56903988Three barrels, one trigger one magazine.
>>56904060>>56903988Think its a TKB-059
>>56903535Anyone have the interviews from people that shot this thing? Something about it being like a goddamn laser
>>56903679>>56903712Cast on strike Fire damage 20-30
>>56903797Why so little gun on so much mace?
>>56903950>A 3bbl shotgun is rare enough,Never heard of a "Drilling" before?
>>56904242Drillings usually are two smooth bore barrels and a rifled barrel, or vice versa, not three smoothbores.
>>56903523Whats the caliber?
>>56903609>>56904206Pretty sure that's the prototype to what would become the P90. They were trying to think outside the box for a pdw if I recall correctly.
>>56904242>Never heard of a "Drilling" before?Yes. I collect 19th century hunting guns and combination guns in general. Drillings usually have at least one rifle barrel, one with three smooth barrels would be a rare variation of an already rare gun.>>56904396I don't recall exactly but I do remember when that gun was up on GB a couple years ago; I regret not buying it. The brass you see in the picture is actually not correct for the pistol, it was either a .45 or .40 cal straight-walled black powder cartridge. And it wasn't all that big of a cartridge either, which really made me scratch my head. WTF is the point of the turnover style action if the cartridge isn't particularly powerful?
>>56903478This reminds me of a video I've seen of some Arab guys shooting some kind of modern monster rifle at an indoor range and failing to control it. Basically the same shit your greentext describes, it flies out of one guy's hands, another falls over, etc.
>>56903478>>56905080Not the video I was thinking of, but same kind of thing and probably gives an idea of what that 1866 gun was like to shoot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLxMlL333_Y
>>56905080I think those videos came from the guys who ran the Accuratereloading forums, I remember seeing them years ago.>>56905118Yeah, that's one of them. I recognize the range.I think that old rifle would actually be worse to fire compared to what those arabs were shooting. If memory serves the arab guys were shooting things like .577 T-Rex, .577 Nitro Express, .505 Gibbs, etc. Let's use those and throw .600 NE in there as well.From Chuck Hawk's website:.470 Mbogo = 84 ft-lb recoil.500 NE = 75 ft-lb.577 NE = 127 ft-lb.600 NE = 154 ft-lb.577 T-Rex = 110 ft-lb.505 Gibbs = 82 ft-lbNow, head over to shooters's calculator and type in the numbers for this. 3500 grain bullet (1/2 lb), 270 grains of powder, 20 lb gun weight. We don't know the muzzle velocity exactly but I think 1000 fps is a safe estimate, that is well below the velocities reported by Cal Pappas for a 10-dram 4-bore rifle load firing a conical slug. That gives a whopping 373 ft-lb, even worse than firing both barrels of a .600 NE at the same time.
>>56905343What about a Ferrari developed armored car?
>>56902658So, does this fire its barrels in sequence or all at once? Because if it is all at once, then RIP your shoulder.
>>56903679>>56903797It's a shame combination guns were so universally shit. They're very cool-looking.
>>56905672Most combination gun-and-melee-weapons came from the time when gun technology sucked, so once you fired your one shot (assuming it even went off) you suddenly had a useless piece of metal in your hands, so having the gun incorporated into a mace, halberd, axe, etc, made some sense when it wasn't practical to reload. The Day's truncheon came out at a time when firearm technology wasn't so shitty, as far as I've read they were reliable. The problem of course was that a truncheon was supposed to be a less lethal sort of weapon and a solid brass bird's head would absolutely cave in a skull without much effort.
>>56905827I'm not sure it's fair to call this a combination weapon, it's really just a coach gun with a bayonet but man is this particular one sweet.
>>56902883man, imagine being a bad guy in a video game, you gotta walk back and forth in the same exact path for hours with this huge triple wide ak magazine crammed in your ass, waiting for some dipshit to show up and shoot you
>>56905847This is a level of workmanship you never see on a coach gun. Octagon barrels, roller frizzens, waterproof pans, the pans and the breech plugs are lined with gold...
>>56905906level of detail on the inside of the locks, check out the bluing on the mainspring...
>>56905916Bayonet catch...More gunporn pics here:https://www.drake.net/john-harcourt-ipswich
Don't have a picture but there was an indian sword whip out of soft metal or soemthing.
>>56905381>373 ft-lbholy fuckwtf was even the point of the thing? The various NEs will basically instakill anything that moves, hard to imagine what a gun with 3 times the energy was intended for.
>>56905906>lined with gold
>>56906549Isn't that Robocop's pistol?
>>56906690In one of his stories he talks about tracking a rogue elephant into a dense thicket and suddenly realizing he was standing right under its head. He pointed that rifle straight up and blew its brains out and barely escaped being crushed by it.
>>56906979Wait, you're telling me these funky-ass things have actually been used in combat?
>>56906850corrosion resistance, black powder doesn't play nice with iron
>>56904507what the fuck, neat
>>56906690That was from a time before NE's existed. In the days of black powder the way to make the gun more powerful was to make the bore ever larger. They also played around with explosive bullets. Note that he mentions a "percussion shell" and then proceeds to talk about how they have to fire the gun every so often if it had been sitting loaded for too long...that's also a clue. If it had been loaded with an ordinary lead bullet they could have pulled it out the muzzle using a screw on the end of the ramrod. But in this case the gun was loaded with a bullet packed with explosive and a primer in the nose so they couldn't pull it out that way.Anyway, he wrote about that gun in 1866, the first NE cartridge, the .450, didn't exist until 1898. And yeah, once those hit the market the big "bore" gauge rifles quickly fell out of use.
>>56903325These look like a star trek prop.
>>56907012its over bushman anon
>>56907058Pretty sure that dude was an anti-government demonstrator/fighter in Venezuela, and the suppressed, brass catching, light body armor defeating, easily converted to high rpm full auto package seemed a really apt choice for that situation, since there was clearly lots of shooting back at Venezuelan state forces to be done. Also, seem like that sort of thing is also enjoyed by the opposing Venezuelans, they’re some of the only forces to use the Changfeng SMG
>>56907240Well I'll be go to hell. I learned something today, thanks anon.
>>56907159Korean Peninsula is a silly place
>>56907904Bakelite drum magazine
>>56907159I like how the Chinese and Koreans picked up the OICW concept right after it died
>>56907012>>56908076get a full metal one instead
>>56907378Man I'd pay good money to see ballistics tests of these fuckin things against meat and bone.
>>56908434The cylinder is simply beautiful, look at this thing.
>>56908855This is absurd.I love it.
This thread is great! Here's a good one.
>>56908855>>56908434I've had an idea for a survival gun in the same calibers, only with the .357 and .410 loading via break action and the .22 loading via magazine (or break action; it would be functionally similar to a Beretta Bobcat). Anyway, I would happily take this if I could buy one at a reasonable price.
>>56908906That full issue's on archive.org, worth a look. Also a neat glimpse into the past.https://archive.org/details/gn-a-dec-78/mode/1up
>>56909072I had no idea the TKB-022PM ejected forward. That's probably why it never got off the ground, huh?
>>56909217https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5x_clmnUjoThe rest of it looks pretty involved. Interesting to find that it's basically a self-loading falling block.
>>56909207Thanks anon. That was a fun read.
>>56908434>>56908855All multiple barreled firearms should have the option to discharge all barrels simultaneously.
>>56909217>That's probably why it never got off the ground, huh?Yeah, it was probably deemed to weird and revolutionary for its time.
>>56909475This, but in a completely random order.
>>56909432There's tons of cool shit archived out there. That same site has an archive of like 1.6k Moonman songs if you're into that shit. Amazing the /pol/ autists made that many, I mean goddam. Get a hobby.
>>56908729any info on this one? it looks neat
>>56903500Actually really clever
>>56902658Original Pauley brass cartridge cases. Napoleonic era, predated the percussion cap. Ignition worked by using a spring punger that drove compressed air into the priming compound. This compressed air got extremely hot, enough to light the compound, ignite the main powder charge, and discharge the cartridge. Similar in concept to a fire piston, like people bring camping.
>>56902658South Korean Frankenstein's monster. An 1903 Springfield action, mated to an M1 Garand's en bloc clip feeding system. I have no idea why this was ever made.
>>56904120I remember reading that the biggest problem was the noise. Being a 15.2mm sabot gun with a muzzle break, it was just too loud.4750 fps and low draghttps://modernfirearms.net/en/sniper-rifles/large-caliber-rifles/austria-large-caliber-rifles/steyr-iws-2000-eng/
>>56909739Making raycist meme songs is a hobby.
>>56907080>American180 X 4>6000 rounds per minute for 10 seconds.What in the world was it for, I wonder?
>>56903325Literally "children playing with vacuum cleaner attachments"-tier
>>56910323It's clearly AA for RC planes
>>56910127a machine pistol that was a proposed replacement for the 1911. it had a 27 shot magazine and fired a proprietary 5.56x29mm cartridge
>>56906865>Isn't that Robocop's pistol?No, the Robocop AutoMag guns are just dressed-up stock M92s. The armorer sold at least one of them off to a Hong Kong company in the very late 1980s or early 1990s, they show up in several of the "Lethal Angel" and "Deadly Angel" films. Haven't seen it pop up since the mid-2000s, think it might have gotten scrapped by the Chinks or stolen in the interim.I think the 92 may be up there with the old Taurus .38's on the list of guns the most movie armorers have played dress-up with. Doesn't hurt that it's relatively easy to convert to full-auto, either. >>56910234>I have no idea why this was ever made.For the lulz.
>>56902658The Lidner RepeaterA fantastically wacky Striker Fired, Tube magazine fed, revolving rifle, equipped with a self-priming primer magazine. Every mid 1800s gun design innovation and trend smashed into one singular firearm. A marvel if nothing else.
>>56902658>Yo, dawg. I heard you like 1911s and memes from 2007, so I put some magazines inside your magazine, so you can swap mags while you swap mags..
>>56902658A great man once dreamed of a future where revolvers would no longer need cylinders.
>>56902658Did you know the first reflex sight was built in 1901?
>>56902658A 1911 made out of stamped sheet metal.
>>56906630What?? Is this a Mosin Nagant Pederson device or am I too drunk to process this properly
>>56911283Yes, there were pedersen devices tested for the 1903, 1917, and Mosin, though only the 1903 conversion was produced beyond that
>>56903679IIRC the reasons why the met didn't want it was because>it was too lethal and the met were already controversial with a lot of people saying they were an unnecessary institution>concerns about the constable shooting themselves when twatting somebody with it>constables were largely unarmed (other than a nightstick and rattle), and the early firearms squad already had revolvers which were far better
>>56911274Looks like something out of Fallout.
>>56905906I'm probably just retarded but I've only now realised that flintlock rifles have literal flint lol
>>56911274Reminds me of the doom 3 gat.
>>56910244>15.2mm sabot gun with a muzzle breakliterally the halo sniper wtf?
>>56911668The real halo sniper is the Denel NTW-20. The only major difference is it's side-fed
>>56906580Thats some real 40k shit
>>56911274What a horrendous looking gun. I bet it binds when you try and rack the slide and it's probably loose and wiggly as shit. Recoil impulse if probably awful too
>>56906711Did they ever make a single working prototype for the PAPOP?
>>56908723I've honestly kicked around the idea of trying some out. I have a couple of period books which give the formula for the explosive mixture used, and according to my math it's ATF legal even up to 4-bore as there is less than 1/4 ounce of explosive in the bullet. I've been handloading for years and I am very interested in those old guns. I even own an 8-bore double rifle (cartridges), and a 6-bore muzzleloader. However, after reading some contemporary works by John Henry Walsh aka "Stonehenge", I'm a bit worried. According to him those kinds of bullets had a tendency to explode in the barrel under the shock of firing and there is no way I am risking my antique guns to that. Now maybe it could be worth fooling with in a cheaper gun, like a 10ga single-shot?
>>56911201Funny, they're still making those today.
>>56904507Honestly his idea of rotary fed full auto would have done this concept more advantage than the 1000lb trigger pull revolver idea.
>>56908299Anons..I can save this fucking concept. Ditch the underslung M4. Its all 20mm grenades. Attach a zip22.lr for any target that is close enough to worry about hurting yourself with the 20mm.
>>56913219I really like this gun and wish Soviet Union was as retarded with its gun acquisition as it was with tanks
>>56906609Is this the first recorded incident of Bubba?
>>56914832that's no bubba, nigger ass motherfucker
>>56914752The Belgians gave something like that a go. Tubular magazine 40mm(?) with a built in 5.7mm PDW, and of course the big goofy turn of the millennium computer optic
Its totally good and normal to be issued a Mosin Nagant in the 21st century
>>56914897As I walked away from typing my memepost about using the zip .22 I realized that using a 5.7 instead of an 5.56 would unironically be a good idea due to weight savings vs realistic fighting needs. And here the Belgians did it. Just make it 20mm airbrush and it might be a legit good platform. This also, as it happens, looks fantastic.
The Russian depth charge grenade launcher that is specifically designed to be fired from piers, decks of ships, or from helicopters in use against aircraft carrier arsonist frogmen, trained CIA dolphins, Kursk survivors, and other varieties of combat diver
>>56903443the lock on this is really interesting. It looks like a single hammer sets off a priming charge in the center via a percussion primer, then the blast from that charge simultaneously goes left & right into separate priming pans on each cannon barrel. Very odd, I wonder if this was some attempt at making sure that both cannons fire at the same time and was somehow better than having a percussion lock on each barrel?>picrelPepperboxes aren't all that unusual, but this one sure is. Not only is it double-action but it's also a whopping .65 caliber
>>56910323Hornets, otherwise known as cunts with wings
>>56914832No. But this might be.
Neat little survival gun that the Soviets gave to their Cosmonauts, since unlike NASA astronauts, they didn't land in the ocean. So they had this in their landing capsules in case they had to defend themselves from bears or some shit and it doubles as an axe/knife
>>56909217Seems like on full auto there'd be a decently high chance of shooting the shells as they drop in front of the muzzle.
>>56914832>WW2 AT rifleThere are many accounts of WW1 rifles being bubba'd for safari use. The rarity of that rifle makes it a more painful example though.
>>56915231Couldn't they just bend the ejection chute a little?
>>56910127magsec3 from perfect dark lol
>>56915238>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE FUN THAT'S LITTORALLY LE OBSOLETE GERMAN GUNNNN
>>5691522110 gauge (i think) revolver it was cut down from a longarm.
>>56909475>*Half Life 2 Shotgun has entered chat*
>>56906979>Abuela next to himMakes me chuckle every time
>>56909072>doesn't increase the barrel length any more than regular bullpups. There's no point to this design
>>56910211>Diesel effect in firearmsYou could bring this back for homebuilt 3d printed firearms and have the cap rebound to cycle the action like a Primer actuated blowback rifle Pic related
>>56910234the availability of that rifle and the garand's ammo stores, probably
>>56914952Fuck. I want it.
>>56915221>Wut dat?Some ancient bubba cut down an 1855 Colt 10-ga shotgun and converted it into a huge revolver.
>>56916615have that in rifle form. The Czech HROM. Used the same type of lifter mechanism to get a longer barrel in a PDW form factor.
>>56916101Anon, you're just going to have to accept that some things, much like yourself, have no point.
>>56916101TKB-022PM with 16 inch barrel has an overall length of 20.66 inches.Tavor X95 with 16 inch barrel has an overall length of 26.125 inches.AUG with 16 inch barrel has an overall lenght of 27.2 inches.
>>56916875I don't need to have a point. I don't require money extracted at gunpoint to exist.
>>56914936are these actually being issued?
>>56902658This is from a videogame but I dream about it everynight
>>56911659How the fuck did the clipazine feed into the chamber with a grip angle like that
>>56918258Here’s what I could find, seems to be a Ukrainian company, so they might not be issued so much as just floating around >VM MP-UOS Sniper Rifle was designed by UKROBORONSERVICE SC specialists. It is a deep modernization of Mosin Model 1891/1930 rifle, 7.62 mm caliber.Ukrainian gunsmiths upgraded this weapon in accordance with NATO standards. New sniper rifle was designed to use 7.62×54 mm cartridge, and has 730 mm barrel. Rate of fire is up to 20 shots per minute. Cartridges are fed from five- or ten-shot boxtype magazine. VM MP-UOS Sniper Rifle is equipped with optical sight and Harris SBR folding telescopic bipod. The modernization allowed to increase range of fire and to decrease recoil during fire. The sound of shot is diminished considerably due to the use of silencer therefore the rifle can be used stealthily.In the framework of Mosin rifle re-equipment, other alterations in the design were made. Buttstock and wooden rifle stock were replaced by new rifle stock produced of polymer materials and aluminum alloy and adjustable buttstock and pistol grip. Fixed magazine was replaced by detachable boxtype single-row magazine. The thread is made on the chase for the mounting of silencer or muzzle brake. All the components and details used for the rifle modernization are manufactured in Ukraine. This weapon is also manufactured for export. The rifle design is distinguished by its reliability. Comfortable buttstock, accessories, and well-balanced barrel improve shooting accuracy that is huge advantage among similar models of weapons.
>>56906591>>56908316Why do slavaboos jack themselves raw over this ugly orange plastic?
>>56915405Pretty cool to use in a videogame, but I don't see any practicality in real life
>>56906976when you want to pass the time waiting for your hvt to show up so you project Les Émotifs anonymes on the wall and spoon with your spotter
>>56915253itd probably make more sense to extend the barrel about 4-6 inches
>>56914465Huh, those are very interesting.
>>56917950Thanks Anon, saves me looking, and awesome rising block caseless webm.
>>56914897It's kinda neat, a bigger grenade and PDW sound just right for the concept
>>56918418fins were still using sexed up mosins until recently werent they? Recently in my 2012 is still the current year brain at least.
>>56911668>>56911684Halo sniper is NTW 14.5In Halo 1, you can zoom in on the ammo and it says 14.5 x 114
>>56911201>>56914465Very similar to the Gutter Snipe sight on the ASP from Paris Theodore
>>56912893Well, they make 12ga slugs with a similar, though not exactly the same, design and I haven't heard of those malfunctioning. One problem with tests thusfar is that people will shoot fruit or gel with them, when you probably have to hit bone to set off the explosive at anything less than mach 2.
>>56902658Rectangular barrel, rectangular bore. Simple as.
>>56921966>when your opponent is EXTREMELY turkish
>>56921995That's top-tier gun humor right there.
>>56906580>>56911876imagine this on an M82 Barrettor this M82A2 variant
>>56921966Now thats what I want to see the ballistics tests on.
>>56902658Did you know that 1911s used to come in cans?
>>56922690As did M1 Garands.
>>56922694Ma Deuce made the best canned preserves.
>>56922690but why? wouldn't putting them in rectangular boxes save up on space? or is that empty space used for something else?
>>56921658Why aren't these popular? Looks like a really good option for a cc gun the colt new agent has something like it
>>56922919>but why? wouldn't putting them in rectangular boxes save up on space? or is that empty space used for something else?One man can roll a barrel, you need 2-3 to safely handle a crate that size. When you're critically short on labor, and don't have forklifts, that can matter a lot. Big reason why they were still used in shipping until the invention of the modern ISO containers. Paying your cargo handlers has always been one of the biggest expenses of shipping stuff.Second, barrels only take two machining operations to run off of a belt of sheet metal (cut, roll around a mandrel with the ribs and weld). Then you drop in the inserts, cap 'em off with round plates, and run 'em out to the back yard. A metal crate takes three folds, four welds, and a much more complex cut for the body, plus you need hinges. Wooden crates were cheaper but neither waterproof nor anywhere as tough, and wooden crates required a lot of labor you could automate with barrels. Finally, the barrels handled being parachuted out of planes much better than the crates in Army tests -- they supplied partisans for several years by literally kicking barrels of guns out of the back of small transports in occupied territory. Did the same thing for resupplying paratroopers and sending down their heavy weapons.
>>56903325Holly shit the under barrel gun existsI had this idea as a kidThe bottom one looks like it would actually be cool with a scope
>>56904462No the p90 was invented in Canada and it was originally an auto handgunThe hill h15
>>56906979And they collect the shellsFucking beautiful design
>>56923312i see, that's pretty neat actually
>>56923432rock hard right now
>>56919176gonna need more info on that. name? tf is that caliber?
>>56923481There's a gold accented one featured on forgotten weapons
>>56923561>>56923481He also made a rifle
I wish they had further developed the hill handgun It's so much smaller than the p90
>>56923576Looking at this is like finding an alternate universe or alien technology and realizing we have been doing guns wrong
>>56923576Imagine that thing with a brace
>>56904507I discovered this one after the dev added it to H3VR
>>56905455Definitely something the police on mars would drive around in
>>56903325What were the belgiums smoking.
>>56921540The LMG version.
>>56917950why would they put the ejection port right where you grip the foreend
>>56924579I've heard some things from someone who got some sitdown time with the designers of the textron and it was a mess, absurd tolerances, poor material choices for the sake of weight. The real damming evidence is thay atleast some of the folks working on it had no clue who our lord and savior JMB was.
>>56921868>Well, they make 12ga slugs with a similar, though not exactly the same, designThe big hollow ones, like the ones Taufledermaus stuck a primer in the nose of? Yeah, I've seen those. That would be fine for testing. But I'm not aware of people using the same explosive mixture as the originals. It's not the design of the projectile that's the issue, it's the sensitivity of the explosive compound used.
>>56922919They normally were packed in rectangular boxes. That picture is the exception rather than the rule: those cylindrical canisters were supplies dropped by aircraft into occupied Europe meant for use by resistance groups. The canisters were meant to replace bombs or extra fuel tanks on standard aircraft, hence the shape.Go read SOE Equipment Air Dropped in Europe 1940-1945 by Anders Thygesen>>56923312the only part of this post which is correct is the "parachuted out of planes" part.
>>56922690Did you know that in Canada milk comes in bags?
>>56924778>some of the folks working on it had no clue who our lord and savior JMB wasHow in the god damn can you be a gun designer and not know who he was?
>>56925179That was my and my sources reaction. Like what? How the fuck did you end up working on this?
>>56912560>the amount of loicenses you need to have this
>>56925207Fundamental fact of life, anon: People are stupid.Ask yourself, how many gun enthusiasts, yourself included, have read picrel? Probably not very many. And this shit is more fundamental than JMB. One thing I've learned working as an engineer (not related to guns) is that the more full of themselves an engineer or designer is the *less* likely it is that they have studied the fundamentals. Bigger ego = bigger gaps in knowledge.
>>56903609Non-americans really should seek help.
>>56925256Fellow engineer (MET) here, I'll be honest I don't have a copy of that book but will now be keeping my eyes out for a copy. That's a good point I guess, the guy who as telling me this is also a huge gun guy and MET (college buddy) so the fact that we are both in awe of it is not too surprising. That's why I make sure to not profess knowledge of work items that I don't have knowledge of, I do a lot of electrical related stuff in my line of work and I am very open that half of it is gibberish to me.
>>56923496Keltec P50. 5.7FN
>>56918451Not really plastic, plastic precursor, phenolic resin, in this case reinforced with chopped fiberglass.
>>56925809That doesn't answer why slavaboos jerk themselves raw over it.
>>56906711Definitely the best thing to come out of the French MIC since the armoured battle skirt.
>>56910234그야 돈도 없고 기술도 없으니까
>>56923576Its only smaller because that gun has a 3" barrel.Look at how the magazine is mounted.
>>56922919>>56923312>>56923474>>56925155Those cans/cylinders were actually for storing in warehouses long-term, though supplies were airdropped in similar containers. We still use the same concept for long-term storage, only now with injection molded plastic containers (picrel).Here's an article about the WW2-era cylinders: https://www.guns.com/news/2019/02/25/that-time-the-army-packed-guns-like-sardines-for-long-term-storage-photos
>>56925710>keep an eye our for it1883 edition -- https://archive.org/details/gunitsdevelopmen00gree>>56925901Because it's highly visible and an in-group marker.
>>56928288>Those cans/cylinders were actually for storing in warehouses long-termYou're confusing two different things that happen to look similar. Yes, there were long cans/cylinders for long term storage like your guns.com link explains. And >>56922694is an example of that. But those are not the same ones seen in >>56922690 or >>56925166. Those canisters meant for airdrop are many short sections joined together, and they are accessed from the end, they are not the same as the long ones used for storing full length rifles, as the book by Anders Thygsen explains.
>>56902658One of my fellow countrymen invented this brilliant thing, which is a magazine-fed revolver. Obviously it was a great success.
>>56903325This is the prototype for the P90, before they figured out a good way to hold it
>>56928341I didn't post the one:>>56925166Which is why I didn't link it in my response.>>56928341The storage cylinders for the M1s and the the M2 are also opened at the ends. The ones in the photos are cutaways for showing how it works, not access panels.Also, did we ever airdrop M1911s? Browning Hi-Powers and STENs were provided to resistance forces because the 9mm was used by many European nations, including the German occupiers, whereas as the only Europeans to use the .45 ACP where the UK (in Thompsons purchased from the US) and Norway (in their license-built M1911s). As far as I know, the only .45 ACP firearm the SOE ever intended to give to resistance forces was the Liberator pistol.
>>56923432I actually think FN just stole the idea for the magazine, and they rejected hill's gun.
>>56915162Aren't all (with some weird exceptions: picrel) pepperboxes double action?
>>56919095>practicalityDo you not buy guns just to make loud sounds and punch paper/steel?
>>56925289Fugg, I wish I had talent to build something like this, i'd make it slimmer to fit a retracting mp7 style stock
>>56906609Uhhh hello, based department?>>56903500Such wasted potential in whoever made that shit, unless it was a tax sinkhole training prop made by some stick in the mud asshole in Virginia >>56915405Junk jet/fallout 4 rocket??>>56914936Unironically seems like an ok slavshit alternative to a remington 700 that usa still issues >>56914897Clearly inspired the halo 3 fuel rod gun lmao
>>56929000I thought most were individually indexed by hand.
>>56921995>>56922009even funnier when you remember that the turks actually used to just cut lead bars into rough squares for musket usehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwhmk-4bDS4
>>56902658The AO-40The Soviet version of the G11. Similarly used a hyperburst system where the action traveled rewards within the receiver with each shot, before bottoming out at the end.
>>56906957Hey, it works. Cessna L-19/O-1 type aircraft were known to be sitting ducks without the added armament. This is one of the more sane installations. I remember seeing one that had a modified back window for a machine gun mount.
>>56931708Old gewehr converted into an smg by brazilian criminals
>ITT: Forgotten weapons zoomers post guns with youtube videos on themI thought this thread was for obscure guns?
>>56904902You could not afford that gun you lying faggot Larper>>56904902
>>56910234>I have no idea why this was ever made.Because someone could. I support well made mash ups of guns with all the blood in my dick
>>56906957I like it, but we can go a bit bigger.
>>56906646Incredibly based. Someone needs to start making these slides.
.22 Mag, blow-forward action.
>>56932584this is some cool shit but what purpose does it serve? nobody is killing shit with this thing.
Voere have always made some really innovative stuff
Apparently the revolver had a capacity of 15 bullets
>>56936789How will semiautocels ever recover?
>>56936789Oh and it was chambered in 7.62 mm
>>56903500Better ergos than a Glock.
>>56933668Pneumatic press hopper?
i like this thread
.410 bore bullpup pump shotgun
>>56936789>Semenov was here. I can feel it.
>>56908855I don’t get how it can have paper thin chamber walls at certain points and not explode.
>>56928363I know what you're thinking son, did he fire six shots? Or only five? Truth be told in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself. But seeing as this is an Ingenior Landstands, the strangest handgun in the world, and it holds way more rounds than that you've just got to ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky? Well do yah? Punk?
>>56904242I think it is derived from german word for triplet. I do not know german but > Ein 1, zwei 2, (Drei 3) Polizei
>>56906690Black powder required a heavy heavy slug . Due to some strange balistics mumbo jumbo heavyer projectiles gib more recoil then lighter ones, a Nitro express can be tuned to have the most energy to the smallest recoil force spike.And yes it could singleshot instakill anything that moved, it is a stopping rifle afterallPs: Do not mistake force for energy
>>56939019The chamber walls are thicker than they appear in that photo because the case head is larger in diameter than the body of the cartridge. It's also a one-off custom job so who knows how durable it may be.
Burgess folding slide-action shotgun (the lower grip slides).
Double rifles: 4-bore engraved with dinosaurs, and a .17 HMR engraved with hummingbirds. By Peter Hofer.
>>56942095must be some kind of rare large breasted hummingbird
>>56936207They only made 2 prototypes, I think the idea was for low passes over kraut collumns. Only problem with that, is that to get low enough for these to be effective on really anything, you're exposing your nice TU-2 to literally every small to medium weapon the krauts have as well. In the end I think they opted for just slapping a couple cannons on the centerline for strafing runs, or just used the bomb bay for bombs.
>>56939256You could actually get up to just about mach 2 with Black powder guns, which should be enough for a relatively small bullet in big game terms to hunt anything that walks.
>>56942256That's what I get for not looking closer at the thumbnail.
>>56903478>ywn go on adventures in africa and shoot crocodiles in the face with a cannon
>>56938744https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV0MnMBRyRoWacky historical fact, the first American to visit Japan was a Native.