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Why do SF operators love this shit so much? Does it give them buffs or something?
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Much more convenient then smoking
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>>56899530
Gets you nicotine without smoke or glow
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>>56899554
>>56899555
Also, gets you nicotine without the lung symptoms. Smoking starts to fuck with your physical performance pretty fucking fast, while snus spares you from coughing.
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>>56899530
>american """"""""tea""""""""
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Snus is based. Its not like mouth tobacco is foreign to Americans right? If you smoke, quit smoking and start snusing instead
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>>56899530
oral cancer is way more hardcore than lung cancer, that's only for pussy ass REMFs not hardcore hilo speed dragsters
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>>56899563
This looks fun.
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>>56899563
It fucks up your teeth and gums though
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>>56899530
Nobody in SF actually takes this shit for professional use. Company commanders always pull strings to make sure we have amphetamines for operations that require staying awake more than 16 hours. Usually it's dex.
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>>56899948
>Its not like mouth tobacco is foreign to Americans right?
Depends where you are. Chew is big in the southern states and at my last job you couldn't shake a stick without hitting someone with a spit bottle. Idk about the rest of the country. I imagine the more white-collar you get the more likely it's frowned upon for being unsanitary. Vaping also looks poised to overtake it.
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>>56899530
What did he mean by this???
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>>56899980
why this nigga got a honey garlic chicken wing in his chin
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You ever been in the field for days and days?
You would know how soothing nicotine is while you're in the shit
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>>56899530
>Why do SF operators love this shit so much?


You seriously think SF people are the only ones that dip?
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>>56899980
Source?
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Convenience. Its the most convenient nicotine delivery method that also happens to taste good and have little impact on health.
>>56899949
Snus is neither treated with smoke nor ever heated to the point that combustion-related carcinogens form, so any increased risk of cancer from its use has to originate from heavy metals or pollutants in the soil or possibly as a consequence of dry gums. Snus use however correlates with cigarette use and lifestyle choices that increase risk of cancer.
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>>56900028
This. I smoke and dip. feels good man
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>>56900028
No, and I never said anything that could indicate that, why are you retarded?
>reddit spacing
oh, I see
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>>56900042
why not just do cocaine too
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I have tried virtually every single form of nicotine and to be honest, if you are disciplined enough, I really think vaping/smoking is the best
>Nicotine patches: have to shave body hair, no noticeable or enjoyable aspects of nicotine. Irritates skin and fucks up your sleep
>Nicotine gum/snus/pouches: fun, enjoyable, will fuck up your mouth and gums pretty quickly
Just don't chainsmoke/vape and you'll be fine
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>>56899530
same reason why all professional athletes take it instead of smoking: doesn't destroy your lungs
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>>56900042
My dad was like you. Said he wouldn't quit until they put him in the ground. He died at 57 years old. He was so genuinely regretful on his deathbed it was unreal.
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>>56900049
Don’t know any yay connects at the moment.

>>56900075
That’s unfortunate.
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>>56900075
You wanna live forever?
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>>56900047
>No, and I never said anything that could indicate that, why are you retarded?


You did though. Your question is the equivalent of asking "why do SF operators like food and sex so much." Everyone does. By asking the question in the first place you assume SF guys are distinguished for using the product compared to anyone else.

The military is FULL of people who chew, dip, and smoke just like the civilian world is. Operators don't like dip anymore than anyone else. Also I've been on 4chan longer than reddit spacing has even been a meme.
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>>56900094
not him, but there's better ways to die than rotting in a hospital bed from cancer

57 isn't that old either, it'd be different if you lived to 80 or 90 and then got the big C
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>>56900096
Take an iq test, it will cripple your ego but you need this.
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>>56900032
Oral cancer from chewing tabacco
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>>56900032
my highschool D.A.R.E. program. Maybe if you were in school and not a nigger you'd have learned it too.
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>>56900110
Stop making shitty threads.
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>>56899563
Yeah it just melts everything related to your mouth and throat instead. Tobacco users are retarded.
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>>56900120
make me
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>>56900032
Back at Reddit where you fucking belong, source faggot.
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>>56900075
Not him but i'll die of cancer sooner or later anyway since everyone in my family had it so I might as well smoke.
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>>56900008
Its not for everyone
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>>56900087
Every American city has a MLKjr Drive, go there and look for a black teenager just standing on the side of the road. Ask him for a ball of some white girl. Should be anywhere from 150 to 300 depending on the city.
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>>56900152
I could easily find a hookup, I just wouldn’t trust them. Shit’s probably cut with random shit before they even had it.
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>>56900152
he'll give you baby powder and be gone if you have the guts to come back and confront him about it, or he'll just shoot you and take your money
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>>56899530

If you're a smoker try some. I find the buzz and taste to be far superior than shiterettes. Only smoke now when drinking maybe a few times a month, I can make a pack last a week when I buy them at all.

As for military use, a cigarette cherry is stupid visible at night or dawn/dusk from a long ways out. And you can keep a pouch in your mouth while operating without taking a smoke break.
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>>56900175
>Shit’s probably cut with random shit
Bro, you have no idea how many people are dying of fentanyl overdoses these days. All cocaine is cut with that stuff now. It only takes a few micrograms to kill you and this shit is made in some cement mixer in Mexico.
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>>56899555
Don't patches work even better for that?
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>>56900181
>>56900175
Nerds who have never bought street drugs, dealers love repeat customers.
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>>56900202
yeah but dealers can tell who is a fag ass nerd rolling up for the first time

90% of coke dealers are just aspiring drill rappers who would rather murder people than make money
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>>56900184
The only thing I miss about smoking (only been using snus since 2018) is how nice it is to smoke while having a coffee or hot chocolate(!)
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>>56900202
True but if you approach a random kid on the street who's probably just waiting for the bus, and offer $300 for powder he's more inclined to rip you off than an actual drug dealer.
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The stupid thing about these stims. these drugs, is that the brand names differ but the end result is always the same. You get some extra dopamine in the brain. You can get that with ADD medication or some coffee. It's all the same.
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>>56900016
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>>56900199
That’s why I don’t do coke and I’ll just stick with booze/tobacco/weed.
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>>56899936
It’s swedish
>>56900115
Snus doesn’t cause cancer any more than carrots. It is by far the least harmful way to use tobacco and nicotine, only damaging the gum tissue where it’s kept.
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I took the snus pill in 2016. Direct ship from Sweden still costs less than buying logs of dip or americanized """"""snus"""""". Arrives within 3 or 4 days. Never going back. Lundgren and Siberia are my go to brands REAL SNUS HOURS WHO UP
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>>56900075
Not your anon but, almost everyone in my family dies at exactly 65 so idek why I bother avoiding tobacco and regulating alcohol intake.
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>>56900207
90% of “black” coke dealers. The trick is to find a white plug that only sells to white people. Lots and I mean fucking tons of white collar people do recreational coke. A middle of the road steakhouse is a great place to look, waitstaff in restaurants always have drugs.
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>>56900225
you're getting dosed no matter what anyways, probably the safest thing these days is weed grown in some dude's backyard because he can control it without pesticides

factory tobacco is LACED with a billion chemicals on the farms and then rolled with all the awful cigarette junk

even alcohol is derived from hops, barley, grain, etc. that gets showered with pesticides and they're not removed in the distillation process

you're better off just growing your own potatoes in a bucket on the back porch and producing your own prison vodka in the tank of an old toilet
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>>56900246
>it’s not harmful except to where it touches you, then it’s harmful
Dummy
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>>56899530
>It's okay Joe, I'm a noncombatant
Smoking in a hazardous area is bad, m'kay?
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>>56900255
I’ll keep that in mind. Thank you, Anon.
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>>56900255
Based and TedK-pilled
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>>56899530
Why does the can say "Rape" on the side?
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>>56900251
Probably good idea to import directly like that, since it decreases the risk that it's been laying around unrefrigerated for too long a time.

My go-to brand is General, and will probably remain so indefinitely. Don't mind Göteborgs Rapé either.
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>>56900264
Nice reading comprehension
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>>56900279
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6teborgs_Rap%C3%A9
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>>56900279
It's "rapé", an old Swedishized spelling of "grated" in French
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>>56900279
It says göteborgs rapé and it has to do with how that specifc brand cuts the tobacco during manufacturing. Cut vs ground as for normal snus
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>>56900279
tastes like rape
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>>56900281
Go check out Snusexpress. You might find brands that you prefer more. Even with the $30 shipping the total won't differ that much at all if you buy 2 logs at a time. I've been buying 40 cans a quarter and sticking them in the fridge. Nothing beats an ice cold portion of Siberia -80c on a hot summer day.
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>>56900319
WHAT the fuck is "cutting" supposed to mean in the context of drugs?
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>>56900323
mozzarella cheese, fish and coins?
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>>56900329
Cutting means you’re adding shit that’s not drugs to the drugs to make it look like you have more drugs to the people buying the drugs
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>>56900329
Filler material that isn't the thing you wanted but what you paid for since you buy drugs by weight. Like mixing dehydrated potato into your bread dough because you're out of flour and need to fill out the volume.
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>>56900329
It's how the tobacco is cut you bumpkin.
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>>56900329
>context of drugs
Snus is not a drug. It’s classified as a produce
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>>56900362
Don’t scare the zoomers now.
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>>56900362
Go look up the definition of the word drug and come back and explain how tobacco doesn’t fit.
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>>56900328
I live in Sweden and have a little corner store like 70 meters from my apartment with a decent selection. The occasional pouch of Siberia can be okay (goes well with a red bull post-work on a summer day) but I prefer when there's a taste of actual tobacco and not just mint, and I'm not keen on carrying multiple cans around.
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>>56900392
This is what I think of whenever Sweden is brought up.
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>Out drinking with friends
>Always have some tobacco on me
>One friend thinks its funny to put one into my glass of vodka
>I notice and take it out but forget to throw out the vodka as well
>Drink the tobacco vodka few minutes later
Be real with me, Im gonna die of stomach cancer arent I? Shit was gut wrenching like immediately
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>>56899980
>>56900131
Oh, not saying that snus is harmless, but the point is that swedish snus on average fucks your gums and gives you a small cancer risk, while smoking fucks your lungs and gives you a worse cancer risk. You should use neither, and both can lead to fatal consequences, but on average snus is less harmful just for the sake that it doen’t turn you into a choking mess.
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>>56900417
The 6 ounces of semen will do Way more damage homo
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>>56900417
At least you’re parasite free.
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>>56900381
Snus is legally speaking a produce and governmed by livsmedelsverket. It is a swedish product made only in sweden. If you want to cry about how the sugar in potatoes actually makes mashed potatoes equal to heroin be my guest but it doesn’t take away from the fact that you’re a retard.
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>>56900417
Eating raw tobacco is way better than drinking your own dip spit. That shit is truly awful.
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>>56900435
What a fair and balanced take, I wish there was something to upvote.
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>>56900447
Not him but legal definitions aren't the same as actual definitions.
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>>56899980
chad jaw
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>>56900447
Lol, nobody cares about your shitty little country that will be western Russia in T-minus 32 months.
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>>56900449
What is your strat for spit bros? Sometimes Im in a situation where I cant really spit that shit somewhere so I just get my mouth full of water and drink it
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>>56900417
anon, alcohol is a carcinogen....
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>>56900480
Snus doesn't make you need to spit, and the portion kind has a small container in the lid for old pouches.
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>>56900459
There is no true definition of anything. It will be made by a branch organization, language institute, legal body or something else.
>>56900467
Good luck crossing the water vanja
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>>56900480
Always keep an empty can or bottle.
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>>56900480
You need to keep a Gatorade bottle on you, then you have the added bonus of one of your friends might take a drink of it.
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>>56900480
If you can't spit on the ground or in a container then don't dip.
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>>56900417
>actually drinking the vodka
you're dead in a year
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>>56900520
Whoops. Jag hoppas din dag blir lika trevlig som du är
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>>56900447
It doesn’t matter how the government defines what it is. It is objectively a drug.
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>>56900545
Man tackar. Hoppas du har en trevlig dag i t banan säljandes din dotter och krokodil till afghanerna för att finansiera ditt konsulat.
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>>56900560
>objectively
There is no objective definition.
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>>56900572
>Thank you. Hope you have a nice day in the subway selling your daughter and crocodile to the Afghans to fund your consulate.

Thanks Swedish bro, my consulate does need funding.
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>>56899998
I always wondered if modern soldiers were on drugs for extended ops. It's common knowledge that pilots get some type of speed for long missions, does infantry/SF get that on record or is it hushed up?
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>>56900329
>>56900351
long cut vs grinds, think of it like different types of pasta
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>>56900585
Cope, no amount of pedantic wrangling will deny the fact that you are an addict with 0 impulse controls.
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>>56899563
Mouth cancer is easier to treat than lung cancer. We can give you a prosthetic jaw. We can not give you a prosthetic lung.
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>>56900667
Very rarely. Responsible and highly controlled used of certain substances is beneficial, but it's near impossible to keep the use to that level.
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you can get non-tobacco nicotine pouches if you don't want tobacco. i think they use stuff like coconut husk or similar.
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>>56900705
>cancer is okay because we can just hack off your jaw and replace it
absolute state of tobacco addicts
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>>56900691
Wait, are you saying that you can only get addicted to drugs? While denying snus is a produce, how do you explain all the morbidly obese people in your country?
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>>56900706
yeah I can imagine that a bunch of seasoned killers on meth is hard to control. Hell being on meth for those jobs probably makes it addicting to get into firefights
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>>56899530
everybody in the military is addicted to stimulants.
>>56899563
no it doesnt.
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>>56900726
>what about Americans!
I’m not even American you retard. To answer the question that you hamfistedly tried to ask, people can get just as addicted to sugar as they can to some other drugs. Sugar causes neurochemical changes similar to what many people would experience under the influence of what would traditional be consider drugs. I can define Snus as a produce but it doesn’t change the fact that it is also a drug.
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>>56900746
I think the most useful kind of drug in the long run would be those light sedatives that help you fall asleep on your own, just to facilitate decent sleep after very stressful periods. Would have to be one you can't abuse recreationally.
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>>56899530
its a meme you dip
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>>56900826
bring back Quaaludes
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>>56899563
some of the best PT guys I knew would cap off their runs with a lung dart
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>>56900585
You're objectively a dumb ass
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>>56900435
> and gives you a small cancer risk
Lol. A small cancer risk is standing out in the sun without sunblock. Being a chronic tobacco user is not a small cancer risk.
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>>56900787
>>56900726
hahahaha two noguns eurotrash fighting and all they can think to do is call the other one American.
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>>56900096
No he didn't. Does asking why Hawaiians are obsessed with spam imply they are the only people who eat spam? Of course not, you are embarrassing to observe.
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>>56900115
snus isn't snuff. Different shit
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>>56899530
Is that snuff/snoose
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>>56900032
Source? from under his chin
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>>56900049
Coca leaves with limestone might not be a bad idea, like in South America. More sustained release at a lower level.
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>>56900667
Not really modern but heard heard some stories from MACV SOG about the "green hornets". Amphetamines meant to keep you awake and moving for days but mostly seemed to make the user delusional and paranoid. If I were surrounded by enemy troops in a jungle I don't think I would want the extra anxiety.
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>>56900251
I order from Sweden too and my bank blocks it every fucking time.
>Sir, did you buy tobacco in Sweden?
Yes I fucking did just like last month and next month.
I’ve smoked cigarettes, cigars & did chewing tobacco. By far the best is Snus. Not even close.
Take the Snus pill anons. It’s the best way to enjoy nicotine.
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>>56902199
What about it is so much better? And how do you avoid becoming exposed mandible man?>>56899980
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>>56901803
Paranoia from stimulants, or withdrawal from depressants where your body is still making the natural stimulants to counteract what it normally thinks is present, is due to sleep deprivation mainly. It's very real, but can be mitigated somewhat with sleep aids and hygiene.
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rural idiots love to dip, rural idiots also love to join the military. inb4 people get mad that i said 'rural idiots'
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>>56902365
>how do you avoid becoming exposed mandible man?
Snus is pasteurized unlike other oral tobacco which is fermented. It isn’t cancerous.
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>>56900251
>Siberia
lmao anon you fucking madman
respect though, when I was in the US my buddy was bitching that there was no snus anywhere so he had to settle for grizzly wintergreen or some shit. Though a few places did carry General, which was kinda weird.
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>>56901321
swedish snus has a pretty long medical history and the increased cancer rates are negligible. Unlike american moist snuff, swedish snus is not associated with an increased jaw and throat cancer risk, just a very small increase in pancreatic cancer. The Swedes keep pretty good records and it's also interesting because by and large, only men use snus, and women smoke, so they have a fairly broad set of data they can use to compare the relative risks of both.
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>>56900667
From what I've heard it's very rare for pilots to actually use them. Kinda makes sense when you consider how hard it is to become a combat pilot these days, gotta be a total straight shooter overachiever all the way up through college and any kind of legit prescription for anything mind-altering will disqualify you so they're not gonna be guys who are all that comfortable with drugs.
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>>56901784
Based goubou poster.
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>>56899530
>"what's under you lip there?"
>"rape"
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>>56902982
https://www.fhi.no/en/publ/2019/health-risks-from-snus-use2/
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>>56899530
>hey dude, you got some rape?
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>>56902982
I dunno man, sweden didn't shut down for the coof, so....
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>>56900667
I've heard tales of guys downing bottles of caffeine pills.
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>>56899530
No fire required.
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I've been dipping copenhagen straight in 90 minute sessions for six years now, gums are fine, teeth are fine. Love the hit, love how it keeps me from getting hungry. Love the taste of it and the comfortable feeling on having a packed hog in. Keeps me from opening my mouth and talking to myself. I'll never stop, best thing in the world.
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>>56906142
What does it taste like? What kind of different flavor profiles do different kinds have?
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>>56905957
achshually nicotine changes your ace2 receptors and makes it much less likely that you will die from covid. in Wuhan, 1.6% of the fatalities were among smokers and an additional 2% were among ex smokers. This information has been pretty agressively suppressed.
and not shutting down is a mark in sweden's favor.
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>>56900480
Truly a disgusting habit. Enjoy your stomach cancer, retard.
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>>56899563
>nicotine
nicotine will fuck up your heart and arteries whether you smoke it or take it orally like a cock. Nicotine is a powerful vascular constrictor that narrows the arteries, raises blood pressure and makes your heart work harder. This is nothing but an anchor when you're trying to run across a battlefield.
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>>56906169
copenhagen long cut "straight" is kind of like a rustic warm whiskey taste, there's salt in it but less than other blends, like wintergreen and mint, which have menthol in them. There are several "not menthol" dips, like southern blend and "long cut" (grey can). Never dipped any fruit flavored stuff but it's out there.

Longhorn/skoal/grizzly all suck ass but maybe someone likes them. Only thing I'd consider as a backup is kodiak straight. Cope wintergreen is good. Stokers straight and stokers wintergreen tubs are great but they are banned in my state

With dip the cut is the most important part, straight is the same as "extra long cut" in my experience, it's a more generous and easy to clump cut of tobacco. On the opposite end of the spectrum you have snuff which is more like powdered stevia, little tiny rounder
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>>56899530
Poor impulse control
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>>56899530
Not sure, but if SF are anything like firefighters it’s for energy. Wildland firefighters especially, as you’re basically hiking off trail all day and then doing emergency landscaping to scratch a tree line. Energy drinks and tobacco kill hunger and make you jittery.

Most guys would shotgun a redbull or monster or bang, pack a lip of redman (tinned chew and pouches are for pussies) and then start hiking.

Shit is rough your first few days and you just hike feeling hung over and sick, but eventually you get the tobacco/energy drink high and the miles start going easier.
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>>56906355
>Shit is rough your first few days
>These poisons are making me feel bad
>maybe if i keep taking them the symptoms will go away

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_tolerance
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>>56900255
For me I just occasionally smoke certain pipe tobaccos or cigars.
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>>56899530
everyone I know who does this is absolute degenerate/suspected sociopath
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>>56900253
My grandpa had a lot of siblings, so a good display of lifestyle effects on longevity is available for my family.
Of his generation, those that ate a lot of meat, drank, smoked, and generally lived "the good life" began dying in their early 50s. The ones who didn't do those things and instead lived a clean and temperate lifestyle all made it to their late 80s/early 90s in good health. I'll take the boring 80 over the fast 50 any day of the week.
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>>56907115
None of those things in moderation are seriously harmful. You're not shaving decades off of your life just because you smoked a few cigars a year and enjoyed some wine and whiskey a couple nights a week.
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>>56899530
I tried it and I just don't see the appeal.
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>>56907115
What if I don't want to live longer?
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>>56902982
it's another thing, such as beer, that americans have taken and absolutely fucking bastardized

skoal/copenhagen/whatever snuff/chew is fucking garbage compares to Snus. american shit makes your gums feel like leather and they start peeling and shit. when i take a snus out, there's no pain or "gator lip", it's just some flavor residue
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>>56907115
>take the boring 80
fuck that. i want to die before others need to take care of me
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>>56899936
It's chewing tobacco. Or perhaps the nose variant, either way you shouldn't insert it into your body unless you don't plan to live long enough to deal with the consequences of long-term usage.
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>>56900040
Smoke isn’t the only carcinogen, retard. Nicotine is a serious health hazard.
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>>56909456
>Nicotine is a serious health hazard.
i don't think it really is
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>>56904964
>Rape
>White Large
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>>56900016
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>>56899530
Because people who join the military are retarded
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>>56899530
A buddy of mine told me about this guy he met while serving in the army. Sgt 1st class, or was it Lt, either way, doesn't matter. Paid soldier, anywhoo. He had used snus so long, that his gums had "melted" away, and he could stick his index finger up his lip and dig that stuff away from the hole in his gums. It wasn't even in bags, but that old loose stuff that had broken glass mixed in it, to make the gums bleed and make the nicotine absorb better.
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>>56900392
>the brown goo

As much as I enjoy a good rejal prilla, I have a job where I need to show my face. White snus it is.

Polite sage
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>>56900392
Smuggle 50mg nicotine pouches over your eastern border right now.
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>be me, retard
>start smoking when I was 16 because of a girl I was dating
>now 18 and in university
>smoke around five or six cigarettes a day, more if it's a night out
>pretty sure I have chronic bronchitis now
How did boomers do it anons? How did they smoke three packs a day for twenty years straight without ever feeling like there was an issue? I smoke a fraction of what my grandpa did before he did and he's a healthy 70 year old man, meanwhile I'm eighteen and I feel like I'm dying already. Am I just weak? I doubt I'll ever quit at this rate, especially when I join the army.
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>>56906201
Nerd. Have sex incel.
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>>56910170
*before he quit
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>>56899530
Nicotine is a CNS stimulant and does offer some minimal performance enhancements, but mostly they were addicted when they joined/ peer pressured into it.
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>>56899949
>>56899980
>>56900115
>>56900131
Whole I wouldn't condone using any tobacco, the first study showing oral tabocco being related to cancer was found to be highly flawed, later independent studies have found that the oral cancer rates in men who never use any tobacco products, and those who use oral tobacco products to be the exact same.
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>>56899948
America is one of the few places in the world where Snuff and chewing tobacco are legal.
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>>56900480
>strat for spit
Gut it, it's easy to gut if you put it in the upper lip.
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>>56900705
Also you're instantly denied a lung transplant if you have cancer.
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>>56902365
It's not better, it's just your average snowflake behavior and posturing.
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>>56904964
>rape
>white large
[X] Doubt
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>>56910246
In a communist country, sure, but I guarantee you there's few places where 200k won't buy me a new pair of lungs with enough looking
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>images you can smell
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>>56910170
>How did they smoke three packs a day for twenty years straight without ever feeling like there was an issue?
We felt the issues, we however were convinced that being sick was for "faggots and pussies", so we just kept our mouths shut.
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>>56910298
And taste and feel.
>take denssi
>hits you like a fist
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>>56899530
Nicotine is a stimulant.
Helps keep you focused.
I myself have nicotine pouches in literally 24/7. Yes, even while I sleep.
Chew, dip, snus, cigarettes and vapes, I've used them all. The nicotine pouch is literally perfect.
Doesn't fuck your lungs.
TSNA content: TBD.
But it keeps me focused, alert, doesn't stink, I can do it anywhere, any time.
Fun fact, something like 90+% of schizophrenics smoke.
Re: amphetamines, military, etc.
Last time I paid attention, Vietnam era pilot emergency rations contained amphetamines.
And LONG range bombing crews were supposedly issued Provigil.
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>>56899998
>we
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>>56910258
Nigga, is you retarded?
The curing (fermentation/drying) process of tobacco has a dramatic effect on carcinogen production.
Sweden has one of the highest oral tobacco use rates in the EU but has one of the lowest oran cancer rates.
Nicotine doesn't cause the CANCER, the tobacco processing/smoking does.
Nicotine as a chemical has health implications in humans, but cancer is was down the list.
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>>56910363
No. You're misrepresenting facts.
The fact is, no oral tobacco products have any increase in oral cancer rates.
Sweden and the EU looked at a heavily biased study (one that claimed American snuff use could cause cancer in as little as 6 weeks) and banned it to protect their market.
And to continue being a special little snowflake, you want your product to make you an elitist, so you can get more endorphins from consooming
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>>56910304
How fucked would my life expectancy actually be if I keep smoking about this much for the next decade or so? I'll definitely quit when I have kids, that's without a question.

Not that knowing will make a difference, but I am curious, and for all the research that's supposed to have been done on smoking and the risks I find it ridiculously hard to find consistent. precise information on the health effects of smoking besides just "it's bad for you and you'll die earlier on average"
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>>56910363
>fermentation of lactobacillus converting to lactic acid causes cancer
Those kambucha hippies are done for I guess.
And all the Koreans.
And anyone eating rooster sauce
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>>56910403
Is that why snus is banned in every EU nation except Sweden?
>>56910441
Google "TSNA" before you talk to me, child.
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>>56899998
>amphetamines
Calling bullshit, as a Canadian and a speed freak I cannot see how using speed for long durations is gonna help you.
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>>56900049
>why not just do cocaine too
Expensive and shitty? Meth is better and cheaper.
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>>56900207
>90% of coke dealers are just aspiring drill rappers who would rather murder people than make money
Lmao, No.
Stop watching movies.
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>>56900255
>your own prison vodka in the tank of an old toilet
You know we can buy stills now a days? Are you a child?
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>>56899949
find me someone who ever got oral cancer from snus. even dip is very unlikely to give you cancer, it fucks up your gums and teeth really bad long term, but you have to be extremely unlucky to get cancer from it. all those boomers with no jaws got cancer from that old loose-leaf pouch tobacco you pack in the side of your cheek, which no one really uses anymore anyways.
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>>56899563
there is research on snus and physical performance done with scandi football players. Its detrimental from pretty much the moment you put under your lip until a few hours after you have taken it out
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>>56910895
Yes, but it feels bracing and energizing. That is a big boost to morale.
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>>56910895
detrimental how?
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>>56910968
cardiovascular activity. you get winded easier etc
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>>56899998
Dex is the world's greatest preworkout. If I had to take a go pill, then after landing and debriefing I'd usually be a bit amped still so I'd go squat. Inevitably I would crash on my second to last set, though, and I'd really have to grind it out.
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>>56910986
any stim probably hurts cardiovascular endurance slightly. but does it even matter for soccer? it's alot of little short sprints with a lot of standing around in between. i never played soccer since i was 10 so i don't really know though. even tour de france guys get caught taking stims.
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>>56904497
I got issued bottles of go/nogo pills (Dex and Ambien, Modafinil and Restoril were options but most people stuck with Dex and Ambien). The only guidance was "write down how many go pills you take after the sortie" and "you get 10 Ambien a month." Swing shift work, alertness, extended missions, and fucking dickwads slamming the door in the RLB next to you to blast music and video games in the middle of the fucking sleep cycle are why we needed Ambien.
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>>56911056
blood vessels get narrow, the heart works harder to move blood. Football is a 90 minute interval workout that requires a lot of endurance. Very often the team that gets winded first ends up losing, often with an initial lead.
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>>56911057

I've also done snuff in the jet because that wakes you the fuck up immediately, while it takes 15-20 minutes for the Dex to kick in.
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>>56900109
My plan is to kill myself right before i have to go to the hospital.
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>>56910274
>lolbert thinks it's all about the money
There's a reason lung transplants are usually denied even for non-lung cancers, have fun spending 200k to die slowly and painfully while trying to recover from surgery.
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>>56910219
After how many studies failed to link smoking tobacco to any kind of health condition back in the day, I'll steer away from that shit too.
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>>56900435
>just a little cancer
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>>56899563
when i was a young lance corporal i started smoking and my run time went down a minute 30.

You have to smoke. John Wayne did.

but really dont, I just thought it was interesting.
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>>56910304
>We felt the issues
I smoked a pack of unfiltered camels a day for 15 years before I quit because they were pulled from the market. The only time I felt a side effect from it was as a 12 year old that had stolen and smoked a pack within a 4 hour period.
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>>56910435
Cancer risk increases linearly with number of cigarettes smoked daily, and decreases relatively rapidly after cessation. IIRC 10 years or so after stopping you're back at baseline if you've not developed some chronic issue during or prior to that time.
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>>56909483
Its a Class A poison
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>>56910435
It'd be surprising if you're still only smoking 5 or 6 a day ten years from now. As for cancer risk, who knows? Maybe you die from it when you're 30, maybe you live your whole life without getting sick. One thing is for sure. If you take that cigarette money and save it, then when your kid is born you can put it in a fund for him and he'll be set.
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>>56910748
Speed sucks compared to real amps like dex.
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I only do Siberia nowadays. It's at that point right now.
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>>56912760
Decedent is amphetamines. If your going to be a filthy degen at least know what your putting in your body
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>>56910298
>Smells like piss and mint
>Insanely popular in Finland
That should tell you all you need to know about those guys
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>>56912681
is that because of nicotine itself, or that you have to go through tobacco to get it? nicotine is just a mild stimulant.
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>>56912750
>If you take that cigarette money and save it, then when your kid is born you can put it in a fund for him and he'll be set.
This is such utter bs. If we’d say the average smoker smokes for 10 years before their kid is born (and I think that’s high) them that fund would be something like 4-6 thousand us. How the fuck is that being set? Set for a one week holliday?
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>>56912865
Nicotine on its own is violently toxic. Used to be sold as pesticide but too many gardeners died using it
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Luutnantti Nuuska Muikkunen. its a nickname he got in Kainuu, might be the same person. he used that loose shit you need a plunger to use and when he would lob the old snus out he would shove his index finger so motherfucking deep.

Rumors say he hides a small metal saw, a knife and a pocket pistol in his lip...
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>>56912899
Because the kids doesn't need it when he's born, you put it in a fund for him for when he's an adult
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anon bros, I once tried "snus" when i was out at a bar with my friends and it only made me ill. it also made it harder for me to approach girls since i felt ill (i am a virgin, but my bros always tells me to try approach girls - so far i haven't had much success heh). also do you recommend me to take speed, i heard it can boost self-confidence when outside with your anon bros at bars? and will it impress girls if i show them my gun and/or a picture of my gun i legally bought or the pics of the custom made patches of anime girls that i own
love you /k/ bros, and one day i believe i will not be a virgin
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>>56912835
What relevance does that have to "Speed sucks compared to real amps like dex."?
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>>56912899
Can you not do 3rd grade math?
10×365×$8==$29200
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>>56913457
Speed is amphetamines. Methamphetamine compared to dextroamphetamine or methamphetamine.
All the same stuff, basically
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>>56900667
Oh yeah, that's totally normal. But instead of getting issued shit that looks weird like crack rocks or something, it just looks like prescription medication. 'Course you gotta have the paperwork showing you're authorized for it.
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>>56913444
Nothing is going to boost your confidence more than Alcohol or Phenibut. General stimulants are going to make you hyper-focus instead of relaxing and having a good time.
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>>56899998
>junkie tier staying awake pills
For me, it's MDMA
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>>56913444
Smoker anon, Snus also makes me wanna throw the fuck up, whether I'm a pussy or not doesn't change the fact It's not for me. If you want a confidence booster on nights out, alcohol is your best way forwards and nothing else. It's a sweet spot though, get too drunk and your chances of communicating coherently with a woman, let alone sleeping with her, decrease exponentially. You gotta get to that perfect buzzed point.
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>>56910435
Pretty fucked, you can quit, I also smoked over the time period you describe, I just stopped buying packs so I didn't have them handy, if I wanted a smoke I would pay someone 25-50 cents which is stupid expensive. Eventually I was able to taper and realize it's really not worth it
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Give it to me straight bous, are these better for you than dip or will they still give me mouth cancer?
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>>56913638
What anon means is your shitty street speed that's 60% cutting agents and gutter oil is not comparable to pharma-grade amphetamines.
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>>56907115
if you are white man and lives until late 80s. you are gonna get sucker punch from niggers
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>>56899998
Yeah dex before an operation and ambien after lol
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>>56913764
asking the enemy for a hug is untimely when you're supposed to be shooting them
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>>56913990
These are just plant matter sprayed with nicotine, so no, it probably won't give you mouth cancer. What it WILL do is activate bullet time if you combine it with an energy drink
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>>56900255
you do realize that you don't have to use pesticides when you grow tobacco because most insecticides are neonicotinoids, right? they still use fertilizer, obviously, but there's literally nothing wrong with that.
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>>56914368
>energy drink and snus
No thanks, i dont plan on shidding and cumming at the same time
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>>56910435
Just use the HUNT lung cancer risk calculator. http://mensxmachina.org/en/HUNT-NTNU-lung-cancer-risk-calculator/
Youre probably at lower risk than what you fear, but mess around with the parameters and see what a big difference it makes if you quit earlier than later, or cut back so and so much.
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>>56910219
It is constant damage and irritation that causes cancer.
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>>56900526
I was using one of those McDonald's cafe cups as a spit jar for game night and my friend took a big drink of it because the color looked like the original drink. Many keks were had
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>>56900008
Kek.
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>>56905957
And they were better for it. One of the only countries that’s wasn’t completely retarded. Unless you think putting the sick in nursing homes with the old was a good idea like they did in NY and Chicago.
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>>56907372
My grandfather smoked cigars for a majority of his life and only within the past year has slowed down his alcohol consumption he’s 80. I feel that the cancer and early death is not simply caused by the vices that you consume but the environment you inhabit day to day. If you are constantly breathing in exhaust or fumes from chemicals you will go earlier it’s just that simple.
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Are swedish snus brands readily aviable in the US or do you how go to great lenghts to get it over there?
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>>56914396
Mixing Monster and Copenhagen long cut is the only reason I survived the Navy
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>>56915298
The bigger Swedish brands are sometimes available at fancy tobacco stores in big cities but I’m pretty sure you can also order it online
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>>56902982
Swedes are also among the most generally healthy people in the world, though. I mean I would hate to see Baseline health averages compared between Swedes and Americans.
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>>56904964
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Yeah
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>>56899530
Thought they were very small tea bags at first which would make sense.
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>>56906355
>Wildland FF
I am so very glad I didn't actually ever fo this job. Gotta be one of the most grueling and dangerous jobs ever, and you get paid like a McDonalds manager.
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>>56900667
>pilots get some type of speed
It's just generic Adderall. I bet lots of SF guys are on it too. That, or Ritalin.
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>>56915456
it is the same material
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>>56915481
Then why the fuck did the army make me stop taking my prescription adderall before I could enlist
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>>56899530
how do I quit snussing, bros?
I know it's bad for me, but I just can't stop
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>>56904964
"it's just rape, man"
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>>56907794
I definitely get what you describe from time to time, from regular swedish snus
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>>56915644
I quit for a little over a year and still thought about it all the time, so I said fuck it. good luck
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>>56910756
Yeah dude, $10 of meth will have you cracked out far far longer than $100 of coke imo
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>>56904964
I enjoy a can of rapé from time to time
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>>56910170
>Was already 16 when he started smoking
>Because a woman told him to
>Can't do basic math
>Doesn't see how money would be better spent on his future children rather than smoking it
>Asking 4chan about how bad smoking is for his health
Anon has it ever occurred to you that you might be retarded
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>>56900545
Why when i look at this language do i feel like i could have a basic level understanding of it in like under a month of being around it?
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>>56915644
Swap to zyn?
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>>56899563

I worked with a former SF operator from Texas who used to drop into central American jungles to kill Narcos during the 80s or something. That's not the story here though.
He was a complete nicotine addict. He constantly had some in his mouth and he would carry with him a little cup in his breast pocket, then during conversations or even meetings he would casually spit into the cup.
Sometimes he drove me from the work site to the hotel (we worked abroad as mechanical engineers) and during the ride he would constantly spit into his disgusting cup.
During those rides he would also open up a bit about his adventures.
Let me know and I can post what I remember.
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>>56899530
Snus, especially the white non tobacco ones are a great smoking alternative.
>no smoke, smell and glow
>Delivers nicotine much more efficiently
>Is not (only the tobacco free ones) carcinogenic, and the ones with real tobacco are much MUCH less carcinogenic then cigarettes or vapes
>Small pack, comes with many flavours
Only real downside is that is is still addictive and damaging to the brain, aswell as erodes the gums.
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>>56917580
Tobacco free pouches are not considered snus btw.
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>>56899530
Hopefully EU forces swedecucks to ban this shit.
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>>56910170
They had way better smokes back then.
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>>56917533
thats just a tx thing anon. But to ops point, you can't smoke out in the field as it gives away your position. Nicotine is a cheap and effective nootropic and feels like a luxury out in the shit basically



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