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>>56882172
Regular edc. My slide is cut for the RMR footprint only
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>>56885961
That's a model that confuses me a bit, 1K for some slide cuts and a bobtail? Now they're coming out with the devil ray, manta ray etc which would undercut it.
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give me one good reason [spoiler] apart from voiding warranty [/spoiler] not to
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>>56887000
Unnecessary with competent gun handling and appropriate holsters, but you do you king.
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>>56886713
$599 is you look around
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>>56887098
For the Bantam? Just checked gundeals for 9 and 45, all 875 and up
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>>56887000
It’s just a bad safety. Get the Striker Control Device
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>>56887193
Or just look your gun into the holster. There's no rush when it's time to reholster and no one is impressed by how quickly you do it.
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Can someone explain the the walther p99 and what's the differece between AS and non AS models?

I thought what AS meant was that after you chamber a round, it has the long trigger pull of a DA, but the trigger feel of a SA. I figured you would get the traditional DA feel when you hit the decocker.

What does the normal p99 performs like? a normal striker gun?
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New EAA 2311(double stack 1911) coming in 9mm, 45 acp, .40 S&W, and 10MM!
4:06 is when it shows up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYZZ6rJtkUQ&t=518s
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I HATE SERRATED TRIGGERS
I HATE SERRATED TRIGGERS
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Think when I get paid I'll send my 96a1 to LTT but I'm too dumb to know what to do with it.
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>>56888121
First organize the shipment and payment through LTT for the slide work
Put it in a box, as light as possible but large enough to accommodate it. Use some light oil on slide then wrap it in construction paper. Add bubble wrap and other wrapping as appropriate to the slide over the construction paper for protection.
Wait a few weeks
???
Profit
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>>56888121
trigger job w/ Beretta match hammer
RDO cut
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>>56888097
tell those faggots to make a doublestack Hunter with the 6" barrel
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>>56888106
Stop using the middle of the end pad of your trigger finger like some dumb boomer told you
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>>56887053
I look down on anyone who carries these. Just unadulterated consoomerism. Either too shallow to find a better use for the $2000+ price difference between it and the 95% of other carry guns, and/or too easily susceptible to hypebeast internet bullshit.
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>>56888261
Good 1911s are always going to be expensive. I'd rather have a nice single stack made by DW or something than having to deal with goofy 2011 meme mags personally but if you're going to buy a 1911 imo there is no real point in having something in the between $600-1500 range. Either get a rattly flip gun that just works or spend the money for something actually nice.
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>>56888223
Got it
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>>56888261
nah they're pretty sweet and some people just have way more income. Hypebeast stuff is shit because it's just normal things in a different style. A Staccato is just a higher quality gun. Nothing hypebeast is ever useful at a minimum a Staccato is a tool even if you don't think it's worth the price.
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CZ75BD at 9ish yards, using some bubba's handloads, less than second shots. Used DA for 4 shots, rest are SA. Is this decent enough for beginner?
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>>56888231
The pistol she is holding is a 6" 10mm double stack.
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>>56888346
Guy in my ranges shooting league just got the first 500/500 with a staccato. Impressive.
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>>56888106
I love serrated triggers, literally replacing all my smooth ones with serrated and checkered
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>>56888429
yes

Verification not required
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>>56888429
Do that at 50 yards and it’s a start.
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>>56888429
yeah, looks good. Focus on consistency of your trigger pulls to not disturb your sights and your groups will get tighter as you practice. An optic can help a bit too.
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>>56888429
Decent enough untimed. Might try the lucky gunner 5x5 drill next ( five shots in a 5 inch circle, five times )
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>>56888474
>>56888474
I need to get better at maintaining my sights after shooting. I always have to quickly adjust my wrist to get them lined up again. I've got an optic on another pistol which gets better results, but I prefer iron sights.
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>>56888429
Hey man that's not bad, picrel is my sp01 at 10 yards. Keep shootin
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>>56888692
what is that material behind the target?
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>>56888261
>I look down on...
This says more about you than you might think. It's just a gun, a fun one at that.
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>>56888223
Hold on I did the math and I'm too poor for it. God fucking damnit
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>>56888261
This reads like sour grapes. Anon has never been a faggot about his staccato ownership and has been hesitant to even recommend it to people. They're great guns despite picking up a lot of attention in the last couple years. There's a reason they are among the most popular 2011s and it's not because they are all hype and no substance. Don't be a salty faggot. Post a handgun.
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>>56888900
>>56889069
did y'all even WATCH the mud test?
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>>56888791
freeze dried precum salvaged and formed from all those nights wifey called up the bull
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>>56889250
"No."
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>>56889250
What is the mud test, some YT faggot shit? Of course not.
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>>56889274
ah cool, thanks for stating what it wasnt
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Cool https://www.gunbroker.com/item/967791731
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Does girsan make good guns? I thought they made clones for poor people
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>>56889250
lol clearly you didn't. The intent wasn't for you to divine what the best gun was out of the tests you goof. It's not a controlled test and nobody is dropping their shit in the mud like that. Even if you do, they had to stomp mud into the fucking gun to stop it from working properly.
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>>56889069
My grapes aren’t sour. Its weight and price don’t make it seem optimal for a carry gun so I can’t help but make assumptions about those who decide to carry them. Here’s the gun you requested. P10c
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>>56889332
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Finally got around to cleaning the TX22 after about 2k rounds. I actually felt bad for her bros, she ran like a champ despite the grit. Won't be letting her get that bad again.
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>>56888121
I spoke with Ernest about working on my 96A1 a few years ago at the NRA annual meeting in Dallas. He said I'd need to ship at least four boxes of .40 ammo in with it because they never have any at their facility.
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>>56889250
no
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>>56889332
Funny, my C2 weighs 1/2 oz less than your P10C
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>>56889374
Pretty Cheetahs. I have only managed to scrounge up an 85F that Classic got in as police trade-ins. They were used by Italian state police. Got a 92S from the same batch of imports.
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>>56889374
Oh I thought they were 3 pounds. I stand corrected.
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>>56889322
>Does girsan make good guns?
No
>I thought they made clones for poor people
Correct
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Maybe I'll just keep my 96 stock and just get some different grips. I'm too poor for workshop shit.
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>>56889374
Beautiful
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>>56889472
Those things aren't mutually exclusive. Post some information that Girsan clones have specific problems other than association with Turkey or quit being a negative Nathan
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>>56887000
I'm only answering because of the triples, but there are a dozen other plastic pistols that do this already so you should've got one of them instead of a glock.
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>>56889332
>doesn't look optimal for a carry gun
>owns a cz
lol

>owns a cz
>looks down on people
lmao even
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>>56889475
You could get like 80% of the benefits (minus the RDO cut, obv.) for around a hundo with the trigger bar, 14# hammer spring, and match hammer alone if you weren't retarded.
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>>56889352
>gloves
Are you a real american? Alos enjoy cleaning time :D
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>>56889738
Not him. Is that the go to beretta 92 upgrades as well?
Thinking about getting either a 92a1 or 92fs centurion and optimizing it a bit.
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>>56889738
I feel even dumber because I don't see any of that shit around hundred. It's damn near over 200 with that.
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I'm going to work in the USA for 8 months starting next july and I'll be positioned in Houston. Can I legally buy or carry a pistol for self defence? If I can't, whats my best bet to avoid trouble?
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>>56889762
yeah that's pretty much exactly what I did but I got the wc short reach trigger too

>>56889802
not legally, you need at least a green card
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>>56889794
Looks like $120 from Wilson Combat would get you all that.
https://shopwilsoncombat.com/ULTIMATE-ACTION-TUNE-KIT-BERETTA-90-SERIES/productinfo/748/
https://shopwilsoncombat.com/HAMMER-BERETTA-92_96-DELUXE/productinfo/785/
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Someone's selling a NiB PX4 storm on the state guntrader for $350. I've already got some plastic fantastic 9s but this seems like an alright deal barring it's a fucking scam. Worth a buy for rotating barrel fuckery?
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>>56889762
The 14# hammer spring dramatically lightens the trigger pull on legacy models like the 92A1/FS (but is redundant on the 92X/M9A3+ since they ship with a 16#), the trigger bar reduces the reset to basically zero, and the match hammer does the same for the SA takeup (but may require minor fitting in the form of removing material from the trigger bar's SA contact point)—it's a trigger job in a bag for people who don't want to pay $170 for a Trigger Job In A Bag.
On a 92A1 or FS I'd also get a G conversion kit, but that's up to you.
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>>56889814
>holosun
kek
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>>56889762
For me, the go to is eurooptic’s deal on the Beretta Xtreme S trigger group. For 1 hundred you get
>92XP trigger (my favorite)
>trigger bar upgrade (close to LTT)
>match hammer
>light hammer spring (13?)
>DLC coated trigger bar, hammer sear, and hammer
I did not have to fit the match hammer like you did if you were installing it on a LTT due to the less aggressive trigger bar
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>>56889840
How hard is it to put a new hammer on a 96a1? I assume I probably won't be able to do it.
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>>56887000
It's a shit safety. You want a big one you can ride with your thumb. M&P 2.0 is where it's at for that niche and a better gun overall anyways.
>>56888007
>Shoot somebody in self defense
>Adrenaline pumping
>Police sirens right around the corner
>O-okay lemme just properly visually clear my holster
>Crap I'm inside or it's dark out
>Lemme just take my TACTICAL flashlight out or get my phone out and turn on the flashlight
>Ok visually cleared it
>Now I can reholster safely
Or you could just not buy into memes like safety less effectively SAO firearms for IWB carry. One time for fun after hearing this and similar "anybody who isn't incompetent visually clears the holster first" shit I went on a little YouTube expedition for fun and watched a few dozen videos of competition shooters doing drills and some OISs for fun too. Guess what? Even the most trained of shooters casually running practice drills at the range do not reliably properly look their guns into the holster, and people with mild training practically never do after a shooting.
>But I'll reliably do better at my worst than people with dozens of times my training do at their best and under ideal conditions
Sure
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>>56889840
The Wilson action tune is inferior to LTT’s and LTT’s springs are unbranded Wilson springs, both are chrome silicon

https://www.eurooptic.com/Beretta-92x-Performance-Fire-Control-E02568.aspx
This is 100 dollars (MSRP 200 on Beretta’s site) and blows that action tune out of the water with all the shit you get

FUCK WILSON COMBAT fucking boomers and their overpriced shit
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>>56889899
All my guns are bone stock. Lots of comments on the Wilson site are supposedly noobs saying how easy it was, though.
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>>56889881
I have an RMR just not on the 92
>inb4 >fn
post guns
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>>56889899
Literally takes a few fucking seconds

It would take me like 15 minutes to install the entire LTT TJIAB (if I get lucky with the hammer sear spring, fuck that thing)
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>>56889934
Man I want to get it but idk how to fit shit and if I go the route of sending it to a custom shop it jacks up the price even more. I mean yes they're good but good lord.
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>>56889881
>2023
>still thinks >holosun is an insult
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>>56890022
Still not getting one
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>>56890000
You don’t need to fit shit with >>56889926

I can’t stand you saying “I can’t do it because I’m dumb”. Just fucking do it, it’s not that hard and there are many step by step videos on how to do it. No small springs that can easily be lost, nothing under extreme tension, it’s easy as fuck

Same thing with the LTT, nothing has to be fitted. Except maybe if you get the match hammer but get the elite or Wilson deluxe hammer if you want to be safe. Beretta kit? Match hammer with no fitting. LTT kit? Minor fitting maybe required
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>>56890022
Based on their recent QC 2023 is the perfect time to shit on Holosun
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>>56890043
I'm sorry
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>>56890043
I didn't need to fit my hammer >>56889814
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>>56890044
Going to need some proofs.

>>56890038
Well within your right to not do so.
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Hello frens

I have an HK vp9sk with the Valkyrie on it; anybody know a good holster maker for this? I already have some cheapo Amazon holster that fits the vp9sk but that's without the light
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>>56889840
Seconding anon, the Wilson trigger bar is not the same as LTT's trigger bar, the Wilson does not reduce reset length while the LTT does. That's literally the only reason to buy a trigger bar so the Wilson is a pointless waste of money

t. Bought one
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>>56890088
Elite or match hammer?
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>>56890237
Beretta 92 Series Match Hammer
SKU #: C5L047
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>>56889794
yeah the trigger bar always ends up actually costing more than I remember it being
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>>56890260
LTT bar or RDO bar
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>>56890299
full build is: LTT bar, WC trigger, Beretta match hammer, 14# spring, Beretta inox threaded barrel 3rd gen on a 92X RDO
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>>56890332
How much did all of that cost?
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>>56890043
So I should just get this?
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>>56890366
gun I think was like 7 something with tax. Match hammer $45 (got on sale I think like 20% off?), barrel was $210 MSRP but also got on sale $42 off, trigger was $28.95, Langdon 14# spring and trigger bar were $79.95 total. Optics plate free with their rebate. All in just a little over $1k and of course I still have the original parts, spare normal barrel etc
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>>56890366
>>56890445
oh yeah also the lokgrips vertec veloce dark red black were $64.95. It's my favorite gun so it's all been worth it and I'm looking forward to suppressing it once my form 4 is approved next decade.
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>>56890445
I have a feeling I should just get that 02x performance fire control group and go from there.
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>>56890480
Sorry 92x is what I meant to say
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>>56889307
lets see a crackhead try to steal my packages now!!
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>>56890480
I ended up getting the parts over time so a kit might be the better deal. The trigger is really nice, I think this video is just without the match hammer.
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>>56890515
Well that looks fantastic. I do get paid tomorrow so I'll definitely get that. Also I assume I should get some type of punch I'm guessing?
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>>56890515
Hammer should mostly only affect the single action break
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>>56890480
I think so. You could only install the easy to do parts. Tons of videos of installs, it installs just like the LTT kit. Except no hammer spring guide, you just stay stock there.

>hammer spring
Easy and one of the most important. No parts to lose.
>trigger bar
Little more complicated since the trigger spring has to be removed which requires you to pop out the slide stop and trigger. Still easy. You could also install the 92XP semi straight trigger as well when doing this.
>hammer
Easy. Best to be done while doing the hammer spring

>hammer sear and hammer sear spring
More advanced, you don’t need to do this. Hardest part to do in these kits
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>>56890573
I watched a video from berreta so it looks deceptively easy. Then again I'm not an Italian in a boiler suit who knows a 92 like the back of his hand.
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>>56890554
yeah I just have a basic gunsmithing set, and a pair of needlenose pliers. That's all you really need apart from a screwdriver with the 92 for most of those upgrades.

>>56890564
yeah I think the SA is a bit more crisp now but I haven't compared it on video. I don't even think that video has the WC trigger

>>56890573
the most annoying upgrade I did was the trigger because of that fucking spring in there. Everything else is dead simple. Easier than Cajun parts on my Jericho or gray guns SRT on my P30SK. That one in particular was cancer since HK loves their roll pins.
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>>56890599
>92XP trigger kit
It is easy. Except the hammer sear spring that I received was so stiff and maybe out of shape I could not install, spent an hour trying to get it in and just gave up and got the stock spring on the first try. Works perfectly fine on the stock spring and is my lightest trigger pull of my 3 berettas.

The 92 is a military firearm so it was designed to be simple to be taken apart and put back together
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>>56890634
I gotten good at the trigger return spring, used to be the second hardest but takes me seconds to do now. I think what gave me the most trouble was the super strong return spring that came in the TJIAB, much stronger than stock and the 92XP kit.
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How difficult is the short reset wilson trigger install to do?
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>>56890646
Yeah I noticed how easy it was watching a video from berreta themselves.
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>>56890685
The short reach trigger? I don't think Wilson has a short reset product for Beretta.

Trigger is very easy as "gunsmithing" goes. Lift trigger spring, pull out slide stop, pull out trigger pin, put new trigger in with trigger return spring inside (this is the only tricky part), reinstall trigger pin, lift trigger return spring end, reinsert slide stop. I think.
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>>56891282
>>56890685
conceptually easy, the tricky part is getting the trigger return spring back in. It will just take patience.
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>>56885968
So the RMR is my option right? For EDC
Not going for competitions
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>>56892156
For the gold standard of durability, yes. I don’t really see the point in getting a 407c or 507c instead of a RMR if you can afford the RMR. The 507c has more features but you can’t beat American made, maybe it makes sense if you want the ACSS Vulcan reticle which gives you training wheels if you’re new to a dot. It would also help for drawing from awkward positions which might be a good enough reason alone actually to get the holosun 507c over the RMR, only and only if it’s a ACSS model
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>>56892251
Not him but a 407c is half the price of an RMR type 2, so the whole durability argument kind of goes out the window unless you are absolutely autistic about needing the most bombproof pistol optic.
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Posted this on another thread. The FMK boomer of HGG returns. Will post timestamp and FMK if requested.
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>>56892297
If it’s your carry gun? The thing you trust your life to? Spend more.

For plinking and learning how to use a dot? 407c makes a lot more sense.
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>>56892379
>If it’s your carry gun? The thing you trust your life to? Spend more.
Holosun has better visibility than RMR though.
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Anyone else seeing extraction issues on their 92XP
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>>56892322
>Beretta clones
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>>56892404
Ok
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>>56892423
even worse, g*rmans
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>>56888121
Have them do the RDO cut and do the trigger job yourself. Based fellow 9Xa1 anon.
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Long story time...
I found my old arisoft gun I bought freshman year of college in a box when I was clearing out attic space. I always thought it was super comfy to shoot and could point shoot with it really accurately. I was also noguns at the time and for some reason thought it was based on a 1911...
So now I'm looking at getting a Beretta 92 variant... Is the vertex grip on the m9a4 a lot different than the normal 92 curvy butt? I've gotten spoiled with optics and threaded barrels for my obsidian so I'd rather have those options even if I'm not going to mount an optic on the super high mounts they have.

tl;dr - What is the hand feel difference between a 92fs and a M9A4?
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>>56892564
the vertec is a bit different, easier to grip for smaller hands. It's definitely a bit smaller than your FNX. It comes with wrap around grips which aren't quite the same but close enough.
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>>56892419
>recoil spring
How many shots have you fired on it? Manual states replacement at 5k. For me weak recoil springs was failure to feeds.
>extractor assembly
Have you looked at it? Is the spring still good?

>>56892564
92FS style fills your hand more, I cannot defend the vertec except the only good part is that you can choose the wrap around grip and have several good options. You’re going to buy the M9A4 and put a wrap around on it and never take it off.

Or you can buy the LTT Elite with a good optic mount, better grip, and buy a barrel separately

Threaded barrels are less than 200 when they’re in stock at the Beretta site. You’d have to keep an eye out because they don’t last.
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>>56892551
Hows the extended ported barrel
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>>56892627
It looks pretty cool and helps with recoil but I'm having some feeding issues that I haven't tracked down yet. It has a much steeper feed ramp than the stock barrel so that might be the cause. Not sure yet
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>>56892564
Vertec is smaller obviously but more than that the backstrap changes the angle of the pistol somewhat, like a reverse Glock. It's preference, you might like the smaller, but you should endeavor to find both in a gun shop and handle them both to see which you like. I guess it can be noted that you can beef up the Vertec/92X to be similar to but not quite the same as a 92FS grip. The included plastic backstrap is about halfway between the two sizes. The Hogue/Beretta G10 wraparounds are about 90% the size of a 92FS. The Hogue rubber are a little bigger than a 92FS. I haven't tried the brand new Lok wraparounds but they have two sizes of them which appear to be about 80% and 110% the size of a 92FS.
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Not sure if I should post this here, or in arg, or make my own thread about optics, but what low power scope should I get for my Grifone?

I want something compact with at least 6in of eye relief. If possible, it would be nice to have variable zoom and an illuminated reticle. I would only be shooting out to 100 yards since it’s .357
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>>56892659
I'm in this same boat, there are shockingly few low power scopes with normal eye relief, they tend to mostly have pistol extended eye relief.

Your best bet might be a LPVO. The eye relief might even change depending on magnification, sometimes they are more tolerant at 1x than 4x for example. 6" is pretty long eye relief btw
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>>56892690
Are there any compact LVPOs? I don’t want anything too big, because it’ll just overpower the rifle(?) and it will look retarded
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Shotgun scope may work... Reticles are weird sometimes though.
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>>56892715
I don't know about compact LPVOs but you could try a primary arms 2x or 3x. They've got good eye relief and are extremely compact.
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>>56892754
Isn’t primary arms absolute garbage quality?

>>56892690
I suppose I can compromise on eye relief if there are better options with normal eye relief
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>>56892655
A lot of people complain about Sig p226 and p229 having the slide release too close to where your thumbs naturally sit so you accidentally stop the slide from holding open on the last round, but Berettas seem to have the slide release pretty close too and nobody seems to have that complaint for them. Why is that?
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>>56892768
Would a handgun scope not work? Am I retarded?
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>>56892715
Most 1-4s are pretty small, there are some extra tiny ones but they are NOT cheap. The March Shorty and Primary Arms Compact come to mind.

The Leupold 1.25-4s are pretty small and insanely light. The Vortex and Steiner ones with capped turrets are pretty svelte, idk about weight.

>>56892768
>PA quality
Naw most of them are Holosun-tier chinese stuff, better than most other chinese stuff. Some are medium-high end Japanese. I don't think PA makes any junk optics, even their really early chiner red dots were pretty good.

>>56892805
Handgun scopes have like 2+ feet of eye relief, you can't really use them on a rifle, you get 80% black donut with a little tiny viewing area in the middle

>>56892768
I bet you could just mount an LPVO farther back to compensate, they are rather ass-oriented anyway, lacking the typical bell objective.
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>>56892790
Bias
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>>56892790
The Beretta one is quite a bit farther forward, the P226 one is RIGHT under your thumb if you are a high grip thumbs up kind of gun holder. It's very difficult not to hit it if you are really on the gun, Beretta's easy to avoid.

I put a P224/Legion slide stop on my P226 and it pretty much solved the problem for me, just that ~1/3" was enough to get it out from under my thumb. People cut off the back half of the lever for the same effect
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>>56887000
Just buy an M&P dude wtf
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>>56892790
Beretta is father forward but I sometimes made the mistake of holding it down as I’m used to 1911 high thumb on safety gripping.

Right now on my .40 Beretta I have the problem of my thumb being hit by the slide stop under recoil. It’s uncomfortable and hurts after a while
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If you live in WA or OR and want updates on our recent laws and attempts to take away our rights, check this guy out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zWZPQsQS-c

no news in OR which is good for them and no news in WA on the magcuck challenges in court which were supposed to have a ruling last month.
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>>56892914
Did you have to cut that grip to make the slide release pad fit?
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>>56892790
Here's a comparison. You can see even with my thumb lifted it's almost touching the P224 style slide stop on the P226. A regular P226 slide stop would be pressed down just with my thumb here, let alone gripping properly. My thumb on the Beretta is sitting farther forward on the grip than the Sig too, so the difference is bigger even than what's pictured

>>56892906
There's a physical difference, what bias?

>>56893058
Yeah I did have to inlet the grip slightly because these are the old grips. It may not have actually affected function but I didn't want it resting on the grip. The E2 grips don't need that.
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>>56893175
>censored thumbprints
Nobody is after you, bro.
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>>56893058
While I'm at it here's a pic of the inlet I did

>>56893273
I am a ghost
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>>56893175
Do you happen to know if there is a difference between the magazine followers in different generations of the gun, or differently shaped parts of the lever that make contact with the follower? I frequently have this issue with my p229 and it seems to just keep failing to hold open no matter what I do and no matter how I hold it. I don't have the problem with any other handguns. I've been thinking for a while about trying the legion slide stop, but sometimes I wonder if maybe it's actually in part a mag problem?
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>>56890228
Most holster makers use kydex instead of asbestos so your options for that weaponlight are going to be pretty limited.
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>>56890685
the short *reach* trigger is as easy to install as any other Beretta trigger as long as you don't mind how it says "Berretta" on the package
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>>56893320
That I don't know. I've certainly had that problem with other guns though, where the slide stop finger will slide off the edge of the follower and not hold the slide open, or the follower doesn't come up far enough. I've tried fixing it with JB Weld pic related, not sure if this would help yours

It might be related to the brand of mag too, sometimes Mec-gar or other aftermarket manufactures will reuse followers to save cost but that may not function perfectly in all guns, so try some other mag brands?
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Decided to get a can. None of my handguns have a threaded barrel. My 9mm PPQ is the only one that I can easily swap in a threaded barrel. If you were me, would you go that route or use this as an excuse for a new gun? Money is kind of an object.
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>>56893564
There's no good reason you can't use what ya got. You get to learn how to shoot by aiming through the silencer which is kinda fun :)

Welcome to hascans bro!
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>>56893564
Suppressing centerfire handguns offers the worst ROI of any suppressor category, so I'd reccommend getting a threaded barrel for your PPQ and a universal can like a Dead Air Primal since it's going to end up spending way more time on your rifles.
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First off, love me p226 elite I just bought.
Second, nice job at the 3gun match burt.
Third, what does a 135 under a nazi eagle mean on the right hand side of a p38 slide?
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>>56890685
I don’t think the short reach trigger actually does anything
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>>56893605
What the hell is ROI?
>advocating jack of all trades silencers
Euchh, dropped. Filter this guy

>>56893643
I'm only going to say this once. DELETE THAT.
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>>56893730
Answer my question with a satisfactory answer, and you have a deal.
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>>56893730
Guessing he means return on investment.
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>>56888261
The only one being looked down on is you and your $500 plastic toy. Stop being a poorfag nigger with sour grapes. Next you'll tell me you look down on KAC owners and your Aero is jusasgud.
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>>56893745
135 is Mauser's manufacturer code
http://pistole38.nl/the-p38/ww2-manufacturers
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>>56889250
>y'all
Stopped reading right there. I don't humor sister fuckers, niggers, and high school flunkies.
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>>56893784
What's wrong with southern vernacular? You some kind of city slicker?
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>>56893643
picrel
>tfw no spreewerk p38
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>>56893780
Thank you. May I ask why delete?
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>>56893804
not him but y'all has been co'opted by the woke mob as it's a genderless way to address a large group
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>>56893847
What's an alternative that is of similar length?
Besides "hey niggers"
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>>56893847
And I should care what wokies do why? Y'all is southern. I've been saying y'all for decades. Wokies can suck my ass.
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>>56893780
Burt, you had a question about Tikka T1x stocks in the Bolt Gun General (now archived). Did anyone answer it?
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>>56893900
Based dubs
WOKIES TONGUE MY ANUS
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>>56893859
what's jiving my jigaboos
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>>56893643
The whole reason I ask about the mark is a p38 I saw at a gun store. Gun definitely shows sign of wear, but not in terrible condition. Two mags I didn't think to check if matching, the beat to hell holster, and the gun for $1800 on consignment. Didn't think to look at the bore like the retard I am. Thinking I'll offer $1200, but I won't go any higher than that. The guy had it in there before for $2100, but it didn't sell obviously.
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>>56893838
Rule 4

>>56893921
No :( but KRG does make the Bravo to fit the T1X so that kind of solves that. I also wanted to know if the factory T1X stock cap accept the pistol grip module from the T3X stock but nobody done answered
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>>56893730
Return on investment, obviously.
>advocating a can that won't be a paperweight after he finds out that waiting a year and a half to add most of a pound to the end of his pistol to make it arguably hearing safe wasn't the hottest idea
Yes.
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>>56893175
Bias in me being retarded and not funny.
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>>56893287
Your true identity has already been exposed.
>>56880884
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>>56893973
>investment
Neighbor NOBODY sells their used silencers. Literally what return? Buy till you die. It's arguable if you could even call guns an investment. "Invest" doesn't just mean mean "buy" despite most dummies using it in that context. That's why making a good decision before buying is important, and why ho-hum do everything silencers are gay and lame.

Now let's move on to how foolish your argument of
>adding 9 ounces to the end of a pistol and achieving optimal suppression for caliber isn't a hot idea
>but adding 20 ounces to it and achieving worse suppression is
is.

>>56894045
NO STOP DELETE RULE 4

>>56894065
RULE 4 DELETE

>>56894077
STOP
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>>56894077
first thing I did in that thread was ctrl+f burt and I wasn't disappointed >>56880975

>>56894081
we're onto ya buddy boy and what is this so called rule the only one I know is to respect all cats
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Hello /hg/,

I am looking to get a handgun light and I cannot decide between the Streamlight TLR-1 and TLR-2. On one hand, the TLR-1 is quite cheap but the TLR-2 has the laser underneath.

My question is, in the context of self-defense, is having a flashlight with laser worth it? Which variant would you guys recommend I buy?

You are all welcome to ask me any relevant questions.
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>>56894112
https://www.4channel.org/rules

REEEE
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>>56894129
this place has rules? what's with all the ukraine threads?

>>56894121
just get the 1. A laser isn't worth it, you're going to be able to point shoot at a close enough range where you could see the laser easily.
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>>56894081
If you put money, time, effort, whatever into something and expect to get something back out of it, it's an investment.
The decibel reduction and joy of shooting return on the money and time investment in legally obtaining a centerfire pistol can is way worse than a centerfire rifle can or the money–printing license rimfire can. Fight me, fatty.
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>>56894139
> A laser isn't worth it, you're going to be able to point shoot at a close enough range where you could see the laser easily
Alright, so a TLR-1 light along with a solid red dot/holographic sight is all that is needed in a self-defense situation, correct?
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>>56894129
I went right to "we are legion," and was rather confused. lol
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I put Talon Grips on my HTPC remote. Yeah, you might say I'm a bit of an enthusiast.
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>>56894221
Yes, red dot and a light, maybe a suppressor if home defense. Also there are only like 3 (give or take) holographic sights on the market most are just red dots and all real holos are too big for pistols.
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>>56894248
>red dot and a light
Alright, got it. I just need to research good red dot sights for pistols.
>maybe a suppressor if home defense
Getting a can is such a pain in the ass.
>Also there are only like 3 (give or take) holographic sights on the market most are just red dots and all real holos are too big for pistols.
Alright, I will forget about holographic sights then.

Thanks for the guidance friend.
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>>56894245
w2c
Does it use Bluetooth or an IR blaster? I need a portable physical keyboard for typing long-winded emails and texts and Blackberry isn't doing hardware anymore
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>>56894293
no problem. Holos are good but they're just useful on rifles, I can't remember the other two brands but eotech made the first "true" holo sight. Just a terminology thing that they are slightly different technologies. I think hop on youtube has a video about it if you're interested in a deep dive on them.
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>>56894304
Ebay, search Rii keyboard. They make 3 types, one is a big square thing like an XBox controller, the other two are small candybar format like pic rel. One has rubber buttons (pic rel) with no backlight, the other has plastic buttons with backlit keys and a laser pointer. The plastic buttons feel better to type on imo and the backlight is great in a TV room, the rubber ones aren't as tactile. They seem to differentiate between "2.4ghz wireless" and "Bluetooth" but Bluetooth is 2.4ghz so I'd assume they are all Bluetooth.
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>>56893968
>if the factory T1X stock cap accept the pistol grip module from the T3X stock
Yeah, fairly certain that it does fit the T1x stock as well.
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should i buy a ltt p30 and put a sro, compensator, and light on it? i think i want to do it.
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could get a model 10-5 for somewhere between $500 and $600. Looked nice, would be neat to have. Any reason not to? Would like to get into revolvers.
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>>56893273
He's a pedo and his prints are public record.
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>>56894709
.38 special is a little too expensive to justify shooting it often if compared to 9mm

I mean I like my model 10 but I haven't shot it in years, I think I've shot more wax out of it than real bullets.
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>>56894681
I don't think even langdon can unshit that trigger
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>>56894681
Don't
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>>56895073
>>56895143
i feel like your words and images are conflicting.
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>>56894333
As far as I know there are only two. EOTech and Vortex UH-1. The old Bushnells were made by EOTech before they sold them under their own name.
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>>56895171
I made the mistake twice anon, don't be me
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>>56895185
that m and p frame looks nice, where did you get it?
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Took my pistols out to the range today and actually practiced my draw from my holster for the first time with my 509c. Felt like I could be faster, and definitely less fumbly. Is this the kind of thing that is just all about repetition repetition repetition, or are there helpful resources on YouTube yall would reccomend?
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Alright /k/, I got the money to spend on a nice red dot and I am down to the RMR or Holo 508t. Which one should I get? I just don't want to get the RMR because it's the more expensive choice.
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>>56895403
Sneed's.
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>>56895493
507c ACSS
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>>56895454
It's 90% repetition and 10% figuring out the right thing to repeat.
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>>56895171
I mean I got the p30 not the super expensive langdon one where he polishes it with his jizz so the trigger is slightly less shitty than it otherwise would be with just the gray guns SRT. Might send it to him to cut my slide though.

>>56895454
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Csqb8lw5ek it's like a 3 part series and there's a really good one, idk if it's that one, that he covers the process of drawing.
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>>56895493
SRO
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how gay would it be to buy a blue gun?
everything else I own is just black or stainless.
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SHTF and you’ve got to grab your wife, kids, bag, rifle, and go. What pistol are you grabbing and why?
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>>56895171
Keep your friends close but your enemies closer.

>>56895493
Neither are amazing. What do you want to do with the gun?

>>56895562
If it's painted, real gay. If it's solid plastic then mite b cool, if you like that color of blue.

Color is fun, it don't need to be practical, stealth and thermal reflective.
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>>56895565
>you’ve got to grab your wife, kids, bag, rifle, and go. What pistol are you grabbing and why?
If I can only grab 1, beretta. No question. Reliable, comfortable to shoot, good capacity, extremely common caliber.
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>>56895565
RAMI because it's already in my belt and I don't have to grab it
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>>56895580
>What do you want to do with the gun?
Self-defense. I want something that I can rely my life on and is gonna last for a pretty good time.
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>>56895580
https://www.floridagunexchange.com/taurus-tx22-cyan-satin-nickel-22lr-4-10-barrel-16-1.html
not painted, it's a factory option.
taurus made these things in purple, blue, black, fde, odg, with stars and stripes on the slide, shit load of options.
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Anyone here have a vulcan acss RDS? I recently acquired one, he509-rd, and was checking out the vulcan reticle and I noticed the circle isn't fully a circle at the very bottom of the circle, 6 o'clock position, there's a small cutout and I don't know if that is normal/expected.
This is a picture I took with my phone of the vulcan reticle.
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>>56895562
Not gay. This is my wife's pistol. I have a purple one. It's only gay if you don't own it.
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>>56895185
>>56895539
>>56895580
alright, i'll get some other gun to make dumb.
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>>56895644
its so you have a 7yd reference if you've got it mounted on a carbine
working as intended
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>>56895673
I see, thanks!
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>>56895562
its as gay as it makes you insecure lol, it's a color chill out

When the fuck is America going to get the Glock 46? Has a rotating barrel instead of the browning tilting and it can be decocked. Glock's also releasing a performance trigger soon. It makes no sense that it's not being sold as this seems like this would sweep the market as the 'better glock' but what the fuck do I know.
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>>56895650
>I have a purple one
based
thanks lads, I'm gonna save a few bucks and get my gay gun.
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>>56895539
Definitely had some really valuable general holster info, but I don't think this one was about drawing except his 3 finger technique. I will be watching the rest of the series tho, thanks for the advice!
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Question for coloradans, are there any places that will ship 15+ round mags? I know basically every gun store carries them outside of shitholes like denver, but online prices are always better
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>>56895618
Ok then RMR would be one of the top picks for physical durability. You give up some clarity of the lens and convenience with the battery tray of a Holosun. Either would serve you well but an RMR is that extra bit of infallible.

>>56895634
I'd be surprised if any of those other than black, FDE and ODG are actually molded plastic but I also have some teal guns so if ya like it get one. TX22 is rad

>>56895682
Literally
N E V E R
E
V
E
R
because Glock hates innovashun.
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>>56895853
why would anybody ship illegal mags to colorado
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>>56895923
Because all gun laws are unconstitutional.
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>>56895938
Yes, but assuming you're not interested in being the defendant in State of Colorado v. Your Dumb Ass...
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>>56895923
Anon, I could drive to a gun shop 3 minutes away tomorrow morning and pick up 2 dozen 30 round ar mags. Literally no one cares.
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>>56896004
might be like other states where it's still legal for FFLs to get these mags for LE
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45 is good. 46 is gooder
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>>56896078
which gunshop, im moving to denver in a few weeks and thought about stockpiling from nevada
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>>56896124
Bro.
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>>56896078
Nobody in Colorado cares. To anybody outside of CO, you might as well be asking if there's anyplace that'll ship Gen 3 NODs to Beijing.
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>>56896124
>which gunshop
Yes anon, let me broadcast the name of the gun store that's blatantly breaking the law.
I've heard in general big cities are more strict, but go down to colorado springs or pueblo and you can find them easily.
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>>56890233
Is that the inox or carry px4 storm? I was thinking about picking one up
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>>56896246
The LTT PX4s are Sniper Gray like the 92, so it's probably just an Inox.
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Does an 8-round 10mm have a place in todays world? I was thinking about picking up a Delta Elite for innawoods as well as apart of my rotation for carry. I like the thought of it, though if I'm honest I would sort of feel outgunned.
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>>56896681
Afraid of getting mugged by 9 polar bears?
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>>56896681
Not really, and delta elites suck. Get a glonk 20 or admit your larping.
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>>56896681
A 45 colt wheel gun is my innawoods gun. Buffalo bore deer grenades
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>>56896681
>Does an 8-round 10mm have a place in todays world?
makes more sense than a 7 shot .45
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>>56896246
Stainless full size, the Carry is only in Compact form
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>>56897078
>the Carry is only in Compact form
incorrect
https://www.beretta.com/en-us/px4-storm-carry/
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>>56897109
Oh dang, you know I had "I think" in there but I saw nothing on a 5 second web search and deleted it. I get that they're just keeping the branding so people know it's related to the Compact Carry but it seems silly to call it that lol
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>>56897132
I actually had to add "-compact" to my search terms to pull it up. Terrible SEO on Beretta's marketing team's part.
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>>56897155
lol I'm STILL not seeing it how did you find that thing in the first place?
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>>56897174
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=px4+carry+-compact&t=vivaldi&ia=web
works on my machine
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>>56897174
to pull a you: rule 3
you of course can tell from the front serrations so not sure how this didn't clear things up
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>>56897252
Well like I said the first search was a 5 second glance, then I went back and looked harder with "-compact" and it's absolutely not there on google images, despite apparently being there without "-compact"

Blame the algorithms, big G and bad marketing bra
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>>56897290
>Well like I said the first search was a 5 second glance, then I went back and looked harder with "-compact" and it's absolutely not there on google images
I proved they showed up without removing compact from the search results, and very clearly at least the first 4 in the pic you posted are the full size. I know you have astigmatism, but you have another tism and probably should update your glasses prescription once your wallet recovers from panic buying mags and big macs
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>>56897615
You sure did, because I glanced for a few seconds and was satisfied not being autistic about it as there were no Carries in the first row, which is where search engines typically put the closest hits. This really doesn't need to be drawn out but if you want
>very clearly at least the first 4 in the pic you posted
Where? >>56897174 Circle please.
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>>56889802
No idea if it's legal but unless more things change it will be possible to get an 80% shipped to you. P80s may have been fucked by the most recent bullshit and P22Xs aren't made anymore but the GST-9 and some 1911s (and sometimes the P320) are still available.
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Red Loctite on rear Glock sights?

Not interested it how you you like any other color.
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>>56895565
Out of the house: Glock 26 that I edc

At home: USP9
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>>56897748
ok, circled in a helpful guide I made. now can you admit you are fucking stupid so this, as you say, doesn't get drawn out.
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>>56898104
None of those are full size Carries. Where are the non-compact Carries in my screenshot? You know, the gun that the whole reply chain has been about while you've been name calling and condescending
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>>56898244
if you mean to imply that those aren't full size carries because it doesn't have the fucking grips, you should have just said something by now but instead you disingenuously pretend like you can't tell if a px4 is full size or not. I don't give a fuck about your stupid fuck reply chain, it makes no sense that you image searched for a link to a product when it comes up if you just search normally. you're being an ass, you know, what the whole reply chain has been about while you've been a dipshit. I invite you to search for "beretta px4 carry" web results to find the product you were looking for initially without having to look at fucking images and claim it doesn't exist because you didn't see it because you looked for 5 seconds after searching in a retarded way. that's the last (you) you'll get because it's definitely trolling at this point and I'm going to bed
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>>56896681
I mean it's more powerful than a .45 1911, but for carry you can get an 8 shot .357 if you don't care about round count. The S&W 327 is even designed for carry. On a side note, I wouldn't mind a 10mm version of that revolver, so that I can feed it .40 s&w for relatively cheap plinking.
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>>56885909
Is there a discord??

I thought at one point there was
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>>56898439
(You)
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>>56898324
jesus christ, you are one retarded faggot.
Kill yourself at your nearest convenience.
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>>56898324
It was never about identifying a full size from a compact dingaling, you went on that tangent and turned it to 11 for some reason don't blame me. It's been about the full size Carry not having prominent search results on google, particularly after I added the "-compact" tag per anon's suggestion which was baffling

>>56898439
There was briefly, it either died or migrated into an unrelated handgun general discord, idk I wasn't a part of it. There isn't one now in either case.

>>56898450
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>>56894065
I only noticed it now but this dude is bump firing a Beretta 92
Impressive
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>>56888319
Yeah, Oi was once a kid, had to have the latest go fast gun. Back then it was a .40. Very snappy. The experianced guys had .45ACP, that old stuff. Once of them offered me to shoot his.... It points nice, hmm good grip. Sqeeze..bang! Damm that trigger..that's what they mean by broken glass rod. Years of wasted time with less than .45ACP..regrets.
>buh buh too heavy
Pushups are free faggot.
>Only hold 7+1
Hit the 1st time faggot.
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>>56894681
>magazine filled with beanz
Masterful.
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>>56893804
Nothing is wrong with Southron dialect. Informal plural is part of many languages,, including German. Disregard the sour lad stuck in the frozen wasteland. He still thinks barbeque is a way to make food, not a food. He doesn't own a fishing pole.
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Thoughts on the fnx 45?
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>>56896681
For about $100 more you can have a 22rd fn 510. They just came outso it's a less proven design but if it works as advertised it is the king of the 10mm pile. Just don't mount a vortex red dot to one, my buddies 10mm glock broke two just from the recoil alone.
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>>56895073
>>56895143
>>56895171
>>56895185
>>56895539

HK bros: are the p2000 triggers any better than the absolute nightmare thousand-mile play dough trigger pull that is the HK45 and P30?
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>>56900146
I fingered one at palmetto state armory the other day.
It was great except the reset was a mile long. If it wasn’t for that reset and the gun held a proper 15 rounds it would be my gun.
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>>56895853
Magged supply
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>>56899822
Inb4 that dude who didn't clean the packing grease out of his new fnx complains that it jammed.
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>>56900146
No. If you're chasing trigger pull, then just get a 1911/2011 and be done with it. None of the duty guns will come close and they're all kind of meh.
>inb4 but my favorite plastic/metal DASA is different because...
It isn't. The best of them are meh tier. Don't (you) me unless you've shot 50m free pistol and actually know how good a trigger can be.
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>>56900146
>>56900160
Thanks for the insight, friend. This is useful information.
>>56900229
None of this is helpful, nothing indicates anyone is chasing trigger pull, and you would probably feel more at home in the company of fellow rageaholics on /arg/
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>>56898005
Green loctite is recommended by Dawson Precision for sights.
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>>56900242
>rage
Wat?

His sole concern about the pistols in question is the trigger pull. He is literally chasing a better trigger pull, which he won't find in a dated, plastic duty gun.
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>>56900394
He's asking about the triggers on double action HK duty pistols. The guns he specifically asked about all fall within a pretty neat product category. You went ahead and told him to just buy a fucking single action race gun that's going to cost 2x as much as the guns he's talking about.

This would be like somebody asking about the handling on a Prius and you telling them to just buy a Miata.
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>>56900394
Im not trying to be a dick dude but just based on this exchange you really might have autism. Look into it it you havent before.
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The Tisas ejects a case straight into my face about every 10 rounds, and it chipped the bottom lense of my glasses at the last range trip. Anybody have any ideas on how to fix this issue, or am I just stuck with it? Would using lower grain projectiles result in a better ejection pattern? Is this a normal part of 1911s like how most aks throw their cases into orbit?
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>>56900960
Check your extractor. It might be worn or just out of spec, considering it's a roach gun.

AKs throw their cases into orbit because they're overgassed as fuck by design; a 1911 should not make you eat brass if it's working correctly.
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>>56900960
Last round? My Delta Elite did that on the last round before I replaced my extractor
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>>56900960
>>56901016
I replaced my extractor with a Wilson Combat bullet proof extractor, if it breaks they’ll replace it

You could also look into how to properly tension an extractor (you bend it)
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>>56900998
>>56901016
>>56901029
Would it be worth sending back to Tisas for warranty? I have no idea what their warranty or customer service is like. It would suck if they just sent it back to me unchanged and told me it ejects the cases every time so there is no issue.

Is the Wilson combat bullet proof extractor easy to install or is the process a pain in the ass?
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What are some ways to make conceal carrying more comfortable?
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>>56900229
A lot of people don't feel comfortable carrying cocked and locked, either because they don't trust themselves not to ND or because they don't trust themselves to disengage the safety when the hour of need arrives. And I know that's silly because you should just train and be familiar with how to use your gun, and they're designed to be absolutely safe to carry, but still people have those concerns. DA/SA helps with both of those concerns. And yeah the triggers will never be as good as a 1911, but they're not bad by any means.
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>>56901102
It’s easy, many good videos on YouTube about it
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>>56901125
1. High quality holsters matter. Make sure it's the right fit for you.
2. A light base layer between you and the holster can definitely help. Think wife-beater.
3. Find the right position on your body. Weight can affect this. Obviously you still want it in a good draw position, but even slight adjustments help.
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>>56901125
Trying many different methods and settling with the most comfortable? A lightweight small gun helps a lot.

I shill the enigma rig because it’s comfortable for me, more so than just pocket carrying as I don’t like how that weighs down my jacket. The enigma is very adjustable, way more than any other appendix rig because it doesn’t clip into your belt and you can adjust where it rides on your body. I could wear it under sweat pants and often do as it doesn’t need a belt
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>>56900229
>>56900394
Imagine not understanding the question was about the difference between HKs, rather than EVERY gun ever.

>>I see you’re asking about the difference in acceleration between a Honda Accord and a Ford Fusion. If you’re a real gas pedal aficionado, you’d buy a Lamborghini Huaracan
Pic related.
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>>56901232
How it looks worn before the cover garment
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>>56901368
Trying to shoot your dick off?
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>>56901232
>>56901368
That's pretty cool, bro. Might solve my problem of carrying in exercise clothes. I've tried wearing my belt around my hips, but then I've got rough leather and holster right against my skin.
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Speaking of concealed, what's the consensus on these? My glock came with one from the previous owner. Should I stick with it or just get an actual holster?
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>>56901410
It’s DA/SA. The hammer must be pulled back and then the trigger must be pulled, very unlikely to happen inside a kydex holster. Impossible actually, holstering the gun you practice thumbing the hammer. Placing your thumb on the hammer makes it impossible for the gun to go off, the thumb will overpower any trigger movement. Try it. Hold the hammer down and try to pull the trigger, your thumb is stronger
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>>56901422
>Might solve my problem of carrying in exercise clothes
I like belly bands for that personally. Only problem is they get real fuckin sweaty
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>>56901422
I’ve jogged in it, you need to up the retention on the holster
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>>56901452
I've tired those, but they don't retain a gun as well as I want a gun retained.
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>>56901432
I would never trust a concealed carry solution on a gun without a manual safety that doesn't include a piece of kydex over the trigger guard. Honestly I might not even trust it with a gun that had a manual safety either.
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>>56901410
>worried about a gun going off in it's holster
sigger spotted
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How good and reliable are the beretta 21a pistols?
Thinking about getting a .22 lr one for plinking and summer pocket carry.
I want one of the older blued models if it makes a difference.
>inb4 don’t carry .22
It’s only for occasions where I can’t carry anything else and it’s mostly for plinking.
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>>56901728
>It’s only for occasions where I can’t carry anything else
Csx exists
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>>56901452
>>56901471
The enigma rig is basically a belly band but with more retention. It uses standard kydex holsters (any that take a modwing) to retain the gun and uses a leg leash to maintain the position of the holster/band when drawing. The leg leash is the most important part, the problem for me with belly bands is that when drawing the band moves with the gun making it awkward (if the belly band has decent gun retention, if it’s loose on the gun the gun just pops out). The leash anchors the holster for a consistent draw.
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>people thinking that disengaging safety on draw is hard
I shoot competitively and keep safety on in holster. Literally git gud
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>>56901125
Longer gun or holster if youre carrying appendix. I know it sounds counterintuitive but that shit works man.

The boomers at pistol-forum have some REALLY good info in some of their threads too.
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>>56901706
Obsessed
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>>56901834
Depends a lot on the gun. 1911, M&P 2.0, M17, all ezpz. On my P365XL the manual safety is so small that actuating it is just fucked.
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are there ANY MTR-14 revolvers in the United States? I’ll pay a few thousand for one
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>>56902351
also how many were made? It’s almost impossible to find photos
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>>56902351
>>56902370
I haven't delved into any data but probably not. I have never seen or heard of them in almost 20 years of talking about and buying guns online.
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>>56901834
>people thinking a gun without an external safety is dangerous
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>>56902399
What’s the cost of importing a handgun? $1000? Maybe I can find some Italian auction site that has one
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>>56902563
I don't think you can? Sorry I've never messed with that side of things.
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>>56902581
I know handguns have the points system, but I think the Mtr-14 will pass (it’s heavy, revolver, target sights…)
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>>56900146
it's an older model so I only have to assume no. I think the gray guns parts can mitigate this but I'd check for compatibility. If you like the gun/features then it'll be fine, at least it will be reliable. It's not like a shitty trigger completely ruins the gun and apparently the DAO/LEM models are better.
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>>56901743
I wants .22 plinker that can double as a summer carry when I only want something 12 oz in my pocket.
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>>56901125
phlster enigma

>>56901442
which only realistically will happen if you need to use it or are practicing live fire at a range. You can just holster it when it's not on you

>>56901432
fuck no anon the trigger needs to be protected against snags
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>>56885909
New thread here:
>>56902867
>>56902867
>>56902867
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>>56902643
Thanks for the advice! GG trigger is drop-in ready, if I recall, so that should work nicely. The reliability is exactly what I’m aiming for.
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>>56902978
the short reset is indeed drop in but it does require you to mess with a bunch of shit
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>>56900146
It's pretty much the same between my P2000 LEM and P30 DA/SA, P2000 might have slightly less creep but the reset is pretty much the same. Is it so bad that even though you like the rest of the gun the trigger kills it for you?

>>56902683
>>56901728
Seems like an LCP .22 would better fit this niche. I also don't condone carrying a .22 but the LCP has an extractor where the 21A doesn't. 21s are known to prefer HV ammo (which you'd probably carry anyway given the role), an extractor would get around that limitation.



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