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Could the US military pull this off?
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>>56168581
hell no I dont want to have to serve my contract around fucking pendos
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>let's see them vote down veteran benefits
lmao what kind of brainlet created that image

Where the fuck are 320 million people going to serve in the military and receive a 100% disability pension and free College? How the fuck is the government supposed to pay for that?
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>>56168581
Where you put 8 millions? anon?

>imagine jamal learning how to shoot properly
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>>56168581
>Could the US military pull this off?
No. It's totally contrary to the professional army they've molded into, they're not setup for that kind of shit anymore (to the extent they ever were).

It'd make more sense to have basic firearms usage learning just be part of the public school curriculum along with some other more productive activities in terms of building stuff and other such work, learning how to do basic building repair and so on. Could revive civilian corps. But military should be for military.
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>>56168581
No it would be anti Semitic.
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>>56168581
On the positive side, I think it could bring smart guys who wouldn't necessarily consider a military career. And it would hopefully give the public a realistic sense of what the military can do

But the US is perfectly adequately defended with our current set up and it would be a tremendous waste of money and people's time to switch to conscription
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>>56168581
every country with obligatory conscription is a shithole
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>>56168581
>>56168652
This sounds like a better compromise, honestly. Just make firearms training and safety a basic part of the school curriculum.
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>>56168581
>MAKE THEM DAMN CIVVIES SERVE SO I CAN GET MY BENNIES!
lol
lmao
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>>56168581
>no exceptions.
I'm a type 1 diabetic, inherited from my father
Could I have a desk jockey job?
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>>56168581
They could try, but it'd never happen. Military types say things like this, but they don't REALLY want everyone to be a veteran.
Can't be speshul when everyone's speshul.
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>>56168691
>This sounds like a better compromise, honestly. Just make firearms training and safety a basic part of the school curriculum.
Right? Like, that's literally the point of school: to ensure every single citizen has some minimal level of useful foundational knowledge. Main issue is a lot of crap has ended up in there and lots of basic valuable stuff is left out, sometimes clearly simply because of times changing without updates. Public school in the US dates all the way back to the early 19th century, and for most of our history people just learned about shooting as a matter of course from their fathers. Hunting and defense was important same as tons of other practical skills, school was more about the stuff that kids WOULDN'T otherwise necessarily get a good grounding in. Times have changed though and now kids will learn a lot of language stuff or whatever by default but may have zilch exposure to a lot of useful practical stuff.

Honestly I'm surprise there hasn't been more of a public education push now that I think about it.
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>>56168728
Nope you get to dig the trenches fatty
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>>56168615
The college isn't that bad. The total US college debt, which took decades to accumulate and which has been grown considerably by interest, is barely over the total cost of US cash transfers to seniors for one fiscal year. That's why calling student loan debt the biggest transfer of wealth in US history was always retarded; the US gives out $37,000 in gibs per senior, per year. It's basically half of all spending. It's actually more than half when you consider that the debt is shit that Boomers got during their working years but which later generations have to pay for.
>Inb4 some Boomer rages that they paid for all their benefits.
lol, then where did the $31 trillion in debt your handing off come from? Boomers took the White House when they were 30-40 and are going to hold it for about 40 years. The first millennials, who are 40 now, didn't make it into Congress until like 4 years ago. The leadership is almost all old as fuck, the cabinets recently too. Boomers slashed their taxes again and again during their peak earning years, shit up the country, ignored looming threats (global warming and mass migration), and are now demanding what is estimated at close to $100 trillion in benefits by the time they all die (already trillions a year, but it is accelerating rapidly.
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>>56168881
>fatty
type 1 not 2
I'm skinny af I cant even eat bread really
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>>56168581

No, it goes against the entire current model of a career military and would lead to shit like dedovshchina.

If you want politicians to stop fighting stupid wars, stop voting in stupid politicians.
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poop
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>>56168581
There are many ways to serve one's country, the armed services is the most commonly known, but civil service is just as important and helps ensure the integrity of this country.
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>>56168615
>How the fuck is the government supposed to pay for that?
I don't think you understand how rich our masters are.
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>>56168991
>dedovshchina

Just make it sexy
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>>56168881
Retard most type 1s are fit as fuck
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>>56168656
>No it would be anti Semitic.
Yes, making everyone fight for Israel would be extremly anti-semitic.
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>>56168615
print more fantasy (fiat) money as they always do.
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>>56168581
Thank God we’d have millions more teenagers washing rocks and sweeping parking lots since there’s nothing of value for them to do. I don’t know what we’d do without a completely bloated military full of people eating tax dollars with nothing to do.
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>>56169707
"Everyone" includes the Jews themselves, anon.
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>>56169761
Jews already serve in IDF. Boo hoo.
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>>56168581
>mandatory military service
>mandatory free college and healthcare
fuck it, sure
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>>56169767
>IDF

He said fighting.
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>>56169795
Benefits would still only be for veterans. Mandatory service would be to ensure that everyone knows how inportant and hard their job is.
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>>56169825
Who has served a term with the military and isn't a veteran?
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>>56169847
Someone who did a mandatory term? Entire population of Israel is made of veterans.
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>>56169865
*isn't
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>>56168581
>universal service
and the women too?
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>>56168581
>Could the US military pull this off?
Based on their performance literally generations ago, their changes are zero.

And that's without kidnapping WOMEN. Their government is overthrown same day, no chance at all.
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>>56168581
Should be 2 years of some sort of state service, not just military. We don't need however many 18 year olds currently exist in a peacetime army.
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>>56168581
I would not want to be in a unit with people who didn't want to be there. Hell, most people already don't want to after having been in for a minute, but they at least signed the dotted line of their own free will. I would be so fucking annoyed with the cat herding that this shit would be. Imagine trying to run FTX lanes with some dumb fucking liberal 18 year old zoomers
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>>56168615
Literally just fuckin slash the salary for basketball and football coaches and you could probably cut tuition costs in half. It's absurd how much money universities spend on non academic programs such as football stadiums, massive green spaces in the middle of urban areas, and other such things. And remember, while I may pay some 60,000 a year to go to U of I Champagne Urbana, the area is absolutely flooded with chinks and other international students paying 150k per semester. It's mind boggling how much schools squeeze out of international students.
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>>56170035
>champagne urbana
It's Urbana-Champaign you illiterate corn fucker. I doubt you have even finished highschool with that highschool with that retard level slop you call a post. The sports programs at UIUC pay for themselves and exist as a income generator for the school. And what "massive green space" are you even referring to? Mowing a quad and having some trees is hardly a massive expense to cover.

Everyone outside of Cook and the collar counties should have a day of celebration for making their tax sink counties economically viable.
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nah, politicians and their faggot sons wont let it happen
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>>56168991
>would lead to shit like dedovshchina
It doesn't in Sweden, Finland, South Korea, Israel, etc. Russian conscription is dysfunctional because Russians are dysfunctional, not because conscription is.
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>>56172543
>It doesn't in Sweden, Finland, South Korea, Israel, etc.
/thread
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>>56168581
its a stupid idea. do you really want people who don't want to be there responsible for keeping you alive? i dont.
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>>56168615
>How the fuck is the government supposed to pay for that?
Stripping all foreign aid to effectively zero would be a great start
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>>56168581

2 years is massive waste of someone's youth

t. Finn
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>>56168615
College is a scam to keep the poor poor and fleece everyone else.
It’s shrimply pay to play, like the Chinese communist party
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>>56169865
This is the first time I've ever heard of such an arbitrary delineation.
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>>56168581
No.

Anybody that has done at least a couple of years in the military would know that there are clearly some people who definitely should NOT be in the military.
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>>56168581
Why? Conscripts that aren't in the mood to fight will only cause a whole bunch of problems. There's a reason why our professional volunteer military has been able to stay top notch.
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>>56168581
2 fucking years? What's the matter with you?
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>>56168656
But Israel has forced military service for like a year. Do you just bark kike shit whenever you post, cockbreath?
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>>56173525
Foreign aid builds alliances and trade partners down the line you brain dead nigger. I am not fucking American supremacy in 60 years so I can marginally have it better today
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>>56173897
>alliances and trade partners
Yeah I'm sure Botswana and Nigeria are well worth burning billions over the last 2 decades.
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>>56168581
Having a civic minded national guard type system makes far more sense than trying to have everyone play soldier at once. Give people a basic boot camp for baby tier soldiering to instill some discipline and practical skills, then have them go out into their communities and clean the place up and have people know each other, and spread disaster preparedness plans where everyone knows what they’re going to do and what part they will play. Let the people who want to take on more go do that in the military while everyone else takes care of the homefront. Its not a one size fix all solution but damn if it wouldn’t be a good start, and having people partake in structured civil services is FAR more beneficial than just shoving them all into the big army.
>>56168871
There’s no push because the current system has been completely subverted by charlatans who just want fat stacks of tax/state grant cash to do nothing to the increasingly decaying and retarded schools all over.
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>>56173778
>>56173746
>>56173513
>>56169908
None of yall retards get the fucking point ...
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>>56174124
What is it then? Because historically conscription only makes sense in tiny countries under a looming invasion threat or for hyper-specific low-skill metas like musket warfare.
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>>56168938
Kek ik
>>56169642
Mate I’m aware it’s a joke
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>>56168675
Finland seems nice
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I think a lot of countries are beginning to realise national service is our last hope to solve the zoomer problem. Some hard discipline is long overdue.

>Hong Kong is up for grabs, London is full of Arabs, we could be in Palestine, overrun by the Chinese line with boys from the Mersey and the Thames and the Tyne...if you're out of luck or out of work we could send you to Johannesburg

https://youtu.be/LrjHz5hrupA
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>>56168581
I think conscription should be expanded to other services. So instead of two years in the army, you could do two years maintaining highways, or being a police officer, or firejumping or any of a hundred other things the country needs done. Just so long as you're serving your nation in some way, learning some civics and being taken out of your standard milieu and being put in a dormitory with 50 other guys and having to learn how to get on with them and how other people in your country live.
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>>56173957
>$8B per year
This is pocket change in the context of the US economy. Spending a trivial amount of money to maintain a strong western presence on an entire continent is well worth it.
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>>56168581
Conscription is only good when you're need of soldiers for a defensive war. Or your defensive war has turned into an offensive counter-invasion and you need bodies. Outside of this, anyone who advocates for this needs to neck themselves.

Conscripts lower the quality, training, performance, cohesion, and discipline of a standing military force. They're even worse than formed militias from local/regional people.
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>>56174143
It can make sense for high skill roles in low income countries (medics, engineers etc). In practice most modern western nations ensure the same through working hard to have relatively attractive reservist corps opportunities.
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>>56168581
lmao Americans would lose their fucking minds if you told them they all had to put their hedonistic lifestyles on hold to attend boot camp for no direct benefits to them whatsoever
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>>56172543
South Korea military literally has a dedovschina equivalent you dumb fuck just not with all the rape. It's like the Senpai-Kouhai system in Japan, but even more fucked up because they can smoke you all the years that you are stuck in.

>Israel
Tell that to any Arab soldier in ISDF.

>Sweden
Hasn't been a military power in centuries and irrelevant.
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>>56173957
> pocket change for the US in exchange for a grip on an entire continent and raw materials for the rest of time
> just enough change to keep them giving us what we need, not enough to make them independent

Yeah anon, I'm sure isolationism totally werks. I for one, hate having the highest average standard of living in human history.
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Yes
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>>56174447
>Cutting foreign aid spending = isolationism
I don't even agree with him but are you retarded? cutting spending doesn't mean you stop trape or leave the markets and most of this foreign aid doesn't even have the checks and balances to make sure it doesn't go the retarded oligarchs who usually control the countries, and most of them end up working along china while also receiving aid anyways so it's literally a lose-lose situation.
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>>56168581
There is no benefit for this in the US imo
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>>56168581
Do it and offer free community college after completion, G.I. Bill-lite
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>>56174447
>pocket change for the US in exchange for a grip on an entire continent and raw materials for the rest of time
Is that why the chinks are setting up in Africa anyway? We're 40 years too late to have a stranglehold on Africa.
>if we don't give worthless African governments pallets of aid then Americans will have a lower standard of living!
I'm reasonably sure that's not how that works.
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>>56168660
The issue is that conscripts are not going to do smart guy jobs and they're not going to be screened for being smart guys.
And any actually smart guys will just go the old Russian route and find a way to avoid it anyway.
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>>56174490
It’ll whip the soi out of its men
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>>56168581
I WILL NEVER SERVE THIS NIGGER COUNTRY
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i agree somewhat. i think there should be distinctions made between volunteer and conscript units.
an all volunteer military has higher quality soldiers, but it's good to have warm bodies and we all need training.
i say serving past the mandatory 2 years "graduates" you to a higher unit with more capability and training. alternatively you could apply from the street, similar to how special forces recruits from the military as well as the civilian 18x program.
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>>56168581
hell yeah go for it uncle sam
raise the age limit for this
but dont forget to conscript roasties too
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>>56168581
>force US citizens to give a shit
>in a political system with no will for actual citizens
>'how to make a us military coup eminent'
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>>56174124
And yet it's a point that would still have a heavily impact the military that cannot be ignored.

Whatever point you're trying to make, you clearly only came to some kind of conclusion that's favorable to your "argument" without thinking of any other possible issues that would arise. Short-sighted decisions like that don't happen in a bubble.
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>>56168581
>only 2 years of service
Military Service is mandatory for life.
That's right Specialist Wagie, you don't get to go do drugs after messing up my order 5 times in a row.
No Private Barista, you will not bitch and moan about your student loan debt and how everything should be free.
I will like fries with that and you will give me fries with that.
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>>56175589
Pay grade is based on how many children you have.
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>>56168581
Fuck no

The army should really truly take after it's Regiment, and raise the fucking standards to enter especially as combat arms
We already have a fuck ton of retarded fat fucks who barely get by the PT test.

We should introduce the old running standards into the ACFT, or better yet just make the RPFT the standard, pushups, situps, 5 mile, and chinups, since consitentally running 5 miles to standard already distinguishes a degree of athleticism in individuals compared to trotting out 2 miles,
Plus its better to look lean and mean than to have fat heads wandering around
It's entirely possible to be capable of running 5 miles at ridiculous speeds and also maintain 1000lb weightlifting totals

If the Infantry cut alot of deadweight we'd then afford thermal imaging dual tube nods for everyone
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>>56168581
No and it's dumb to start with. We don't need 5 million soldiers. Last time we did was like ww2 and it was fundamentally a different type of war and need.

You'd be better off restarting the Service Corps and just pressing unemployed people into it, or people who don't have other options.
>Live in barracks
>Get paid shit but all your food/clothes/housing/health was covered
>Work in parks and cities doing things like clearing brush, installing basic stairs, digging, cleaning trash. A lot of parks you've been to probably got expanded or touched up on by the Service Corps back in the day
>Generally offered or partnered with trade school programs so you'd have some sort of cert that you were working towards as part of your training, like masonry

Boom now everyone who needs some remedial job or ability to move out of their mom's basement can get a job, training, and basic essentials like vision/dental/basic healthcare. They can start saving, have some decent uniform/workclothes, and have some degree of connection to the nation they build. The country in exchange gets an expanded labor pool of people to clean up the sides of roads and on/off highway ramps and intersections and improve public parks.
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>>56176060
>We don't need 5 million soldiers.
why?
What if every person was a solider and every job was an MOS.
This decreases unemployment by 100%
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Imagine if Amerisharts do this without racially segregating the troops first
Disaster waiting to happen
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>>56176732
You never served
You would know what it's like to deal with useless retards
Plus you would know motherfuckers stand around the company doing nothing anyways
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>>56176895
Bump
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Isn't that what shit like boy scouts is supposed to be for
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>>56174527
>I'm reasonably sure that's not how that works.
I'm reasonably sure you're retarded. We get hundreds of billions back per year in uneven trades from these places. It's soft colonialism.
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>>56175966
They can't recruit enough people even with current standards.
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>>56176895
>get confronted with question
>YOUVE NEVER SERVED!!!!
Master Sergeant Fry Cook, you better clean the grill nice today before PT.
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>>56173536
What do you guys do for most of those two years?
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>>56173897
>give them money for free so that we can trade goods and services for more money
how about we skip the retarded part and just trade goods and services for money. Western Europeans live better than the Average American despite their lack of international supremacy, so stop being a gulible moron
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>>56174447
no one proposed isolationism you faggot. stop straw manning
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>>56168931
It's the inheritance to the younger generation. Honestly that entire generation can be summed up with "well I'll be dead by the time it becomes a problem".
It'll certainly be way worse for our children, and their children, and so on unless it happens to somehow reverse itself. But with the way things have been going, I am not optimistic.
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>>56168581
No thanks, I'm fat and I don't like the prospects of dying for ZOG
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>>56168581
BOOMER TIER DIE FOR ZOG MEME
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>>56177419
>>56177271
Based ZOG
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>>56168581
I believe in small, limited government, and as the military is the government, I oppose a massive increase in the size of the military as it is antithetical to my desired state of a small, limited federal government.
The military also does not solve fatherlessness and other social problems.
Good day.
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>>56175966
>It's entirely possible to be capable of running 5 miles at ridiculous speeds and also maintain 1000lb weightlifting totals
I don't think so, man. A 600lbs clean and jerk with a 400lbs snatch is God tier and only super heavyweights come close to that.
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>>56168581
Literally just give them all one guard contract
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>>56168581
Mam yes mam. If you're into taking orders from transvestite weirdos join the US military today. Guard your keister boy. They don't call them cherry marines for singing too loud in church ask Kay Griggs:
https://youtu.be/4fdS5cdtPOA
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>>56177545
They lost half their guys during the monkepox outbreak and the media covered it all up
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>>56177564
Sign me up
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>>56168581
>Could the US military pull this off?

It would require a constitutional amendment that would be very unpopular. So no.

Forced conscription should be reserved for wars that threaten the survival of the country. Not a tool to boost recruitment to wage asinine expeditions that accomplish nothing other than enriching the military industrial complex.
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>>56168581
2 years of engineering university is worth more than 2 years of fucking around as a grunt in a retard camp that quickly devolves into a russian-style prison for conscripts.
as >>56168991 said
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If military service was mandatory I think I would've done a Pvt Pyle. South Korea is a prime example of mandatory service. They have a shit ton of active Serial Killers and Murderers.
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>>56177025
All the more reasons to know you never served because you cant comprehend what I've said, in response to you thinking it's a wonderful idea to make any and every retard a solider
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>>56177547
255lb 1rm bench, 365lb squat 1rm, and 405lb dead 1rm =1,025lb total
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>>56168581
They should but also offer $50K a year and if you sing on for another 5 years you get $75K a year.
>you will have to learn and understand the U.S. Constitution like its the back of your hand within 2 years or you have to pay back all your salary or go work in a Apple iPhone Factory to pay off your debt.
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>>56168991
Well, it's kind of hard when your vote ends up being more of a suggestion for who they install.
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>>56177083

We don't have 2 years for which I'm very glad. Most people do 6 months, some do 9 months for more specialized roles, and NCOs plus some other roles like drivers do 12 months.

If someone made you do military for 2 years you'd miss out on lots of work experience and money and time to educate yourself, which also puts strain on your economy. In addition to that it's increasingly difficult to justify military service that is based on gender in today's world, at least in Finland. I can see military service being changed to take the most suitable candidates regardless of gender, but I can't see it being lengthened into 2 years, that's just madness.
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>>56173525
LMAO, fucking retarded. The US gets more long-term wealth out of trade enabled by foreign aid than it pays into it. Also, foreign aid is a fucking rounding error on the budget, and way WAY too little that you could ever call it "a great start" for any truly substantial program.
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>>56177752
Sign yourself up. I'm not involved
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>>56177140
>how about we skip the retarded part and just trade goods and services for money.

The "retarded" part is necessary, you gigantic fuckwit. You can't trade with someone who's too impoverished to trade. Like holy shit, this is literally half of US foreing policy throughout the ages: Creating new markets to sell shit to.

>Western Europeans live better than the Average American despite their lack of international supremacy

And guess what, a big part of that is that they're also pumping development aid into developing markets to increase their long-term trade opportunities.
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>>56178769
>pic name

Of what, Russia self-destructing in what looks more and more like a repeat of the Russo-Japanese War?
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>>56170035
This. I paid about $3,000 per semester with my in state tuition. Chinese kids are showing up literally in Bentleys and those fucking Gucci slippers like "uh... my fadder owns factories.... i fink he pay $20,000 per semesta"
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>>56177140
How the hell do people like you end up so convinced of this retardation, kek. Do you unironically not know a fucking thing about how trade works
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>>56178262
Last I checked weightlifting was snatch and clean and jerk.
You just posted a powerlifting total.
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>>56168581
I'm offended that R. Lee Ermy's picture is being used on something so stupid.
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>>56178895
Ok smart ass
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I want the US to implement a universal draft so that, like in Russia, we'll see stories every day of patriots shooting up draft offices

Imagine the kind of faggot who would actually want to serve that retard country
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>>56173619
A ccp red card lets you invest in everything in China you can run a slum get in early on startups that the government will prop up, a scam like college is nowhere near comparable
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>>56169540
Blah blah blah civil service.
I’m a fed and everyone I work with is incompetent or retarded or both
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>>56174527
There's resources in Africa to supply the US and China 100x over. US gets what it needs currently
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>>56176732
> why
Why do we need them, you presented the number first. What is another 4 million Soldiers, in peacetime, going to accomplish? At that rate just make a Service Corps and make an actual jobs program that does something beyond preparing for a war that isn't coming.
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>>56179038
> the civilian sector is any different
Kek

Field Office Clarksville here, I have been a civilian, a Soldier, and a glownigger. Civilians are just as stupid as everyone employed by the government, but somehow even more lazy.
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>>56170035
>It's mind boggling how much schools squeeze out of international students.
Fucking good
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>>56174208
Unironically bring back the CCC
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>>56177564
Pretty telling they're almost universally officers lmao
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>/k/
Government should interfere with my life as little as possible
>also /k/
We should require every citizen to be enslaved by the government for a minimum of 2 years
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>>56179500
Don't expect logic from this Biden cocksucking board
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>>56179500
>enslaved
Look at how the Finns do it, that would be the best model to copy/steal
>boy scouts with guns
>fuck around innawoods
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>>56178753
>>56173897
Cucks
>long term
>in 60 years
Not my problem
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>>56179532
How else would you describe mandatory labour if not enslavement?
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>>56175966
Coming from a Batt fag, if you take steroids out of the equation, 90% of Batt stops existing.
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>>56177153
> strip all foreign aid period
> not getting at isolationism
NTA but you guys are fucking retarded, fucking Hell I'm glad literally not one soul on /k/ is in charge of anything meaningful
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>>56179579
> degenerate faggot can only think about himself
Are you a nigger by chance?
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>>56180933
Don't tell the secret
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>>56179532
But why?

America has nuclear missiles and aircraft carriers. We don't need a militia. Deep down, that's why larpers want a mandatory one - they want to pretend they're relevant.
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>>56174180
Nope. Shithole.
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>>56178769
Aesthetic
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>>56168581
This would have been a great idea but our military is now a den of jewish marxism, which is why White people don't want to sign up. Let your glorious non-White aliens die for the central banking plutocracy.
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>>56173891
Jews are 2% of America, but 0.3% of our soldiers. Hence, it's antisemitic to make American Jews serve, even if they overwhelmingly don't want to.
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>>56175966
I thought we liked having soldiers with knees.
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>>56178242
Nice try Sergeant Plumber. This time clean my pipes, but without showing your crack around the Lt. Missus.

>>56179075
>Why do we need them
Much like your post, it's not about a need.
Unemployment is bad.
Homelessness is bad.
We can cut both Unemployment and Homelessness to 0% by making everyone join the military.
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>>56182542
Stop posting and kill yourself
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>>56182542
We can make the military even more retarded by flooding it with no standards because you think that it's a social program
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>>56182675
>flooding it with no standards
There should be higher standards in the military.
Forcing people to become empowered is a good thing regardless if it's slavery or not.
If they don't like it then they can flee the nation.
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>>56168615
Looks like some Facebook boomer shit
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>>56168615
>free College
Yeah this is insane, only first world countries are able to do that
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>>56182709
Have you served?
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>>56174332
>Tell that to any Arab soldier in ISDF.

I thought Arabs couldn't even serve in the IDF?
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the next uprising will be people preaching in the streets no war no situation christian protests jesus christ is the son of god and im gonna tell you about it thats literally it
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also jesus christ is god
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>>56168931
your right, i know what we can do to fix this but some might find it unpalatable. i will call it the final solution.
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>>56168581
no. i don't want to be in the military and if i got drafted i would dodge it.
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>>56173897
Why do we give so much to Israel then if they don't produce anything?
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>>56169865
Nah its the stardard honestly, all the vetern tax benefits school benefits ect require a DD214 showing honorable discharge.
If you get administrative discharge IE seprated before you get nothing but no penelty either.
If under less than honorable or dishonorable discharges then a bunch of penelties apply.
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>>56173897
>foreign aid funnels money from the American people to corrupt governments so politicians can enrich themselves

FTFY.
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>>56175526
No it won’t. If you’re a pussy by the time you’re 18 you will remain a pussy for the rest of your life.
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>>56182788
Kill yourself nigger, I already pay an effective 25% of my income in taxes, I don’t want to pay another 15% on top of that for retards to waste more of their time and my money.
Universities and student loans need to be reformed, not have more money thrown at the problem.
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>>56168581
nah, there's no way. I dont know if you guys know just how small some of those military bases are. we'd need an even higher defense budget.
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>>56168652
Might have made sense a few decades ago before we got to a point where the thought of holding a loaded firearm would make an average American teenager have a panic attack

The pushback against such a program, especially in noguns states like mine, would be fucking biblical.
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>>56182946
Does he vote for veteran benefits
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>>56186588
If we cut welfare for minorities we'd have an extra trillion or so a year.
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>>56168581
Not for all but I do believe that someone should serve in the military if he wishes to pursue a political career. A politician should serve his country first and foremost. It would also add a good chunk of humility.
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>>56168660
>I think it could bring smart guys who wouldn't necessarily consider a military career.
Smart people don't want to eat shit for years to get a cushy job, when they could just skip all the bullshit and go directly for the cushy job - without having to worry about being drafted again, or being able to move around of their own free will.
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>>56182846
It's more that they get an exemption, ultra orthodox Jews do as well
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>>56182341
Hiiiiii fellow shipmates. Im here today to present to you all a new way, a new approach to military conflicts. We will no longer seek to kill our perceived enemies any longer! We will suck their cocks vaginas and rectum until they and you both climax, this is far better then dying or bleeding out and it cost our oligarchs less money in the long run. Globohomo is the name of the game officers and we are going to implement it globally.WhooooRaaaahhhh!
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>>56188472
our they/them army is going to turn yours into was/were ivan
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>>56168675
>Singapore
>South Korea
>Sweden
>Austria
>Switzerland
>Finland
>Norway
>All shitholes
If you say so anon.
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>>56182946
not according to protestant dogma, he isn't.
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>>56189437
>Singapore
>South Korea
Asia is all shitholes masquerading as civilized countries.
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>>56174522
My state already gets that without being a conscript
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>>56174058
What you are talking about already seems to exist.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_defense_force
Found out about this a couple weeks ago from some wannabe on a /meg/ thread.
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>>56168581
Who's that faggot asking for more gibs?

We should make everyone go thru basic around the end of highschool, as your time is pretty worthless at that age.
Have a swiss style yearly training weekend after that.
Allow faggotry exemption but force them to do demeaning jobs instead.
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>>56168615
Do you think 90% of the population is eligible? Are you stupid?
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>>56168581
Oof yeah sorry but I don't think I qualify, since I refuse to get the jab and would shit myself in MEPS. Also my knees felt kind of funny last week. I just don't think it would work out.
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>>56168581
No and anyone so contending has not seriously studied the draft era even if they were alive and serving at the time.

https://warontherocks.com/2013/12/drafted-armies-are-self-killing-machines/
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>>56190338
I love reading about officer fragging in the Vietnam War and all of the consequences of it. Nothing like putting the fear of god into your commanding officer to make him doublethink every order he gives.
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>>56184839
That's a strange stance to take. I'd kind of expect, if you live in a democracy, you'd want all of your fellow citizens to be as educated as possible. After all, your vote is worth just as much as the dumbest one out there.
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>>56168615
Pay?
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>>56190059
lmao typical
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>>56191718
Don't forget my lazy eye, uhhh I had asthma as a kid, I had to get counseling in middle school for "being a loner," and if you put a rifle in my hands you will be in immediate danger.
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>>56189437
>despotic shithole
>despotic shithole
>frozen expensive shithole
>perpetually on fire septic tank from england
>frozen ultra expensive shithole
>frozen depopulated shithole
>OPEC Emirate for white people
she's right however
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>>56179038
Kek. Reminds me of when the feds tried to arrest an employee of the company I work for. They just started pulling ambulances over and searching them, they did this 4 or 5 times before they bothered calling the boss with the number a previous crew gave them. within 30 minutes they moved the rig with the guy they were looking for to a location to arrest him. Something they could have done with a phone call cost them half the day being retards.
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>>56168652
>Some daughter of Stacy complaining "when am I ever gonna use this" in marksmanship class
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>>56168615
>320 mil
More like 40.
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>>56168615
Since the US has been able to print money out of thin air that's not a problem, Also you guys could probably colonize the solar system if you didnt put money into shit programs and line the pockets of powerful people.
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>>56192383
>>Austria
>perpetually on fire septic tank from england
Wut? Do you know what Austria is? It has nothing to do with England.
>>Switzerland
>frozen ultra expensive shithole
It's not frozen.
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>>56168581
Lmao no
Imagine if we stripped all of the bragging rights of countless millions of boomers and gwot vets
VA benefits would get worse over night, if not nonexistent
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>>56190059
>since I refuse to get the jab
You don't have to get the jab in order to join the military, stop falling for pol memes
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Serving israel by proxy?

Haha! When those kikes start paying my weight in fucking gold per month, I may think about it, sorry US "patriotism" just doesn't move me

Untill then, I stand with CHINA!!



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