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Royal Regiment Edition

Lying about medical record: GOOD (YMMV)
Lying about criminal record: BAD

Cyber/Intel/Air Force: GOOD
Marines: BAD

>Resources:

>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga (embed) (embed)

>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
https://www.asvabpracticetests.com/

>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
https://pastebin.com/yg972vRE (embed) (embed) (Short version)
https://pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (embed) (embed) (40 page version)

>Special Forces Fitness Guide
http://specialforcesrecruiter.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/THOR3-10-Week-Program.pdf
http://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps).

>https://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/index.php
For all Army SF info.

>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
>https://mega.nz/folder/ZQhQDLQA#SrCZyqNQiomnG4DsTzcNMg
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS, as well study guides for ASTB-E

>https://bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance

>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png (embed) (embed)
tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries as your co-workers

>Info on sf86
https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
https://pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ (embed) (embed)

>How can I get more college credits while I'm in without signing up for classes
CLEP/DSST information:
https://dantes.doded.mil/EducationPrograms/get-credit/creditexam.html
Practice for CLEP/DSST:
http://www.free-clep-prep.com/index.html

>What is MHS GENESIS?
https://www.health.mil/Military-Health-Topics/MHS-Transformation/MHS-GENESIS
https://calmed.tricare.mil/Getting-Care/MHS-GENESIS-Patient-Portal
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Sup /k/, I've served in a EU country for a year, been a citizen for a few years since. I want to serve a term ANYWHERE to save up some money. Doing that instead of any shitty job. I'm /fit/, clean record, I was a sergeant. Where can I do that?
>inb4 it's as shitty as any job
Yeah no shit but I'm willing to do it for some time before I'm back to serving coffee.
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>>56160829
Are you sure about that?
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>>56159785
You know those guys on the gun boats that got captured by Iran Awhile back? What rate is that in the navy? I want to do that job but I don't know what it's called
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The original ACFT was retarded but it at least would have gotten rid of all these profile-riding females and fat fuck SNCOs that were just doing their whatever pushups, 40 situps, and walking for 20 minutes. Kinda sad they nerfed it in the ground.
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People don't realize how capable they are
Yes going to and passing a selection is a huge feat but at the same time it's not impossible. It's brutal, and mentally wearing, especially if you get singled out and aren't fit enough but People don't realize how capable they can be just from keeping their composure
>le my friend who was a superstud varsity athlete didn't make it
>muh I heard 99% don't make it why not bother
Worst of all, I see ragging on People who show the wishes to go to these Selections, (albeit some are immature kids who don't know what the fuck they're doing)
It isn't wrong to have the desire to want to join something that exemplifies a warrior class especially in today's age where brotherhoods among men are more rare.
Inb4 hostile replies I'm expecting anyways since people who browse here are bitter coping fags anyways
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Is there a place for coffee snobs in the military?
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>>56163098
Gunners mate
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>>56163137
Scoring 550+ at least distinguishes shitters from weak ass pussies

Easily 100% max deadlift for 100pts
Throw a ball(who gives a fuck about this?)at least 10m to get 95pts
Easily max the pushups with 60reps and get 100pts or kill yourself you weak ass pussy

Get 1:45 at least on sprint drag carry to get 90pts

Easily plank 100% time and don't be a pussy and get 100pts

Run at least 14:30 for 95pts or push harder to max the bitch
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>>56163160
Everyone is a caffeine addict so you'd fit in
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>>56163160
There's always coffee, but it's not always good.
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I want to be a welder. Which branch should I join?
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>>56163554
Navy
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>>56163236
Okay thanks, and will the navy hire felons?
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Will a dishonorable discharge prevent me from being a lawyer? What if I don't want to work as a DA?
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>>56163802
>Will a dishonorable discharge prevent me from being a lawyer?


1000%. No one will hire a felon as a lawyer.
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>>56159785
>The gate guard with no cold weather gear when it's 38° (and windy) and I tell him "Have a good one"
>Security Forces: BAD
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>>56163850
Misdemeanor=/=felony
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>>56163157
I made it.
Ask away.
And yeah, everybody is just a dude, just guys being dudes. There's no superhumans.
A varsity athlete is at a disadvantage because they're used to a mass output after a long rest in optimal conditions. Not team week, which compounds all the pain of gate and nav, and is way too long to perform as an athlete.
Be the cockroach, not the stallion
And anybody else with any 18 series questions feel free to ask. Shit can massively improve the life of a 4chan loser, gotta give back.
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>>56164155
Are you baiting? Dishonorable Discharge is not a misdemeanor. They don't give those out for simple DUIs. You get Dishonorable for murder, rape, and other heinous crimes. You will nor practice law, or do anything besides low tier waging with one.
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>>56164792
oh okay
well I don't intend to murder/rape anyone
I didn't know what they give DDs out for
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>>56164462
Not an 18 specific question, but you have the experience to validate your opinion

Thoughts on trail running shoes? I'm currently looking at upgrading from Asics Gel Kayanos to the Brooks Adrenaline GTS, but I do a fair bit of trail running and hiking. I have done a bit of research into trail running shoe brands like Salomons, but I see conflicting opinions regarding the necessity of having shoes that are redesigned with trail running in mind. Should I go all-in on a trail running shoe and accept the drawbacks associated with them or would I be better off getting another all-purpose running shoe?
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>>56164905
Never really gave a shit about shoes, I've always found performance impact negligible in military applications.
Something inexpensive and comfortable
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Shit happened and now the navy is giving me the option to stay in as a nuke (EM) or rerate. Idk what to do.
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>>56166769
How far in the pipeline are you? At the very least try to qualify at prototype before de nuking. That way you'll get college credits at most schools and still get to say "qualified nuclear operator" on a resume.
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>>56159785
Hey anons
Any info on the US coast guard direct commissioning program? I am not prior service but have a master's degree. I am 35 and want to do reserve.
>too old
Stop
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>>56167064
How was Thanksgiving with your family? Did you start any arguments about trannies or did you sit there quietly like a good little boy?
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>>56167064
>doesent do anything about politicians in USA spreading these ideas
>doesent do anything against corporate leaders spreading these ideas
>doesent do anything against academics spreading these ideas
>targets some pogs at a mall
>also supports russia
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>>56167075
>>56167108
cope and seethe
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>>56167108
Somebody gets it! Turning westerners on each other at the lower rungs is precisely how the powers that be keep the plebs in line. Go out there and harass the E-4s at the mall rather than harassing the O-8 that demanded that they be there!
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>>56167108
>Tarrant and Gendron both make a list of specific people who should be killed
>shoot up a bunch of random plebs accomplishing nothing
Theres a pattern here
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>>56166988
Direct commission (DCO active/SRDC reserves) is for industry professionals - doctors, lawyers, pilots, engineers, and some prior military O's with outstanding track records.

Everyone else goes to OCS (active) or ROCI (reserves).
What is your normal career/job? You probably want to ask a recruiter to put together a ROCI packet.
Also what do you want out of the coast guard? Being an enlisted reservist will scratch the itch for a lot of people with boring desk jobs.
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Why did last thread get 404'd?
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>>56166988
>I want to direct commission into the Coast Guard Reserves at 35

You are a massive pussy. You want to skip all the training that every other officer goes through, in the least military-like service, AS A RESERVIST just because you have a Master's Degree?

I'm in the National Guard, so I don't shit on part-timers for being part-timers. But Coast Guard Reserves? Come the fuck on guy, that's like being Auxiliary police. The military is big on suffering for respect, and I would unironically be embarrassed to even tell anyone what I did with my weekends if I went down that route.

The Merchant Marine is unironically a more respectable choice. And I don't intend that as a dig at them. They'll at least say they're "technically" in the military, but you'll unironically believe it yourself.
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>>56167363
It reached the bump limit
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>>56167108
> tfw the height of schizo power is to just ramble at some random medics in a mall while they laugh at you

Man, he sure showed them!
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>>56167369
Not sure how the training would be any different, CG reservists in the blue guard (integrated into an AD unit) don't have any different quals, capabilities, or authority as their AD counterparts. They just don't work full-time.
USCG liaisons to joint DoD combatant commands are also exclusively reserve officers, and deployable Port Security Units (pic) are 100% reservists as well. No one would say they're just barely technically military.

If you mean direct commission programs in general, he would miss out on some beatings. But that's nothing in the grand scheme of a career.
>I would unironically be embarrassed to even tell anyone what I did with my weekends if I went down that route.
This is a weird perspective and no one IRL thinks this. If anything, it's closer to being a volunteer firefighter.
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Do 91Fs actually get to learn much about guns or is it just replacing parts in m4s all day? My cousin loves the idea but i think he would end up disappointed
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>>56168081
He's gonna end up being a bitch boy trying to unfuck weapons at gunnery with incompetent leadership not giving him the equipment he needs. I had an actually competent specialist 91F that actually helped us unfuck our marks and m2s but his NCO was an incompetent piece of shit so he tried to help us when he wasn't around.
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>>56168242
game the system as much as it exploits you, getting a nice desk job, some gibs, and a GIbill for some weak work is a goodthing, you also get good conections, just dont get a combat role
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I hate the IOTV so much it's unreal.
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>>56168518
This is more shameful than not serving at all IMO
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>>56169105
no its not, getting some nice gibs is a great thing
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Advice for a college graduate with non mil background (2 years ROTC experience) trying to get into intelligence analyst work at a [redacted] government agency

What agencies or jobs should one apply for?

What is the best route for getting one's foot in the door and competing with former enlisted people people who have more practical experience?
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>>56169842
identify as trans
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>>56169842
>college grad
of what?
You have no chance if you don't have a good degree and good GPA.
You need to apply to everywhere to get your foot in the door.
New grad programs exist so you should take advantage of those.
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>>56169973>>56169973

Degree is history(i know kinda shit) but yes I have a good GPA

I have seen recent grad oriented programs but they seem very generalized and more special agent/criminal investigator kinda shit not what im looking for neccesarily...what and where should I really be lookin?
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>>56170303
based history lel, im the same late 20s and looking to get into the CAF and go a cop or something after
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>>56170303
>good GPA
If you have above a 3.5 then you're good for getting into entry level positions with a history degree.
Recent Grad programs come and go for different types of position.
FBI starts people at the bottom, hence special agent, investigator, etc.
CIA isn't going to hire you.
NSA isn't going to hire you.
I would look at the IRS jobs for analysts. Be forthcoming that you want to swap into an intelligence job.
Make sure your IRS job will put you in DC or Fort Meade.
If you get a job at Fort Meade no matter the agency, you've pretty much got it made because you can network your ass off.

Just keep applying on USA jobs for something in DC/Meade. Then swap after a year or two.
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I am thinking about the Coast Guard?
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>>56170432
the FBI special agent listings state that you need at least 2 years full time professional work experience...is that legit? what sort of professional work experience are they referring too? (thinking the job im working now is definitely not that)

What do you need to do to amke the CIA or NSA interested in hiring you?

will look into the IRS jobs

have seen listings for DIA jobs that look grad oriented....are those also realistic options? What would one need to do to make themselves more desirable to the intelligence apparatus?
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>>56171082
It must be full-time, but does not have to be the same job. Volunteering does not count, nor does part-time with OT. Self-employment doesn’t count either, though it would be funny to try to argue it.
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>>56170521
I'm getting more of a seared bite
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>>56163157
I hate this mind over matter bullshit people spew, it doesn't matter how hard you try, if you aren't physically capable, as in YOU DIDN'T PREPARE LIKE YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO, you will fail, end of story, I have to ask, have you been to SFAS?

>>56164462
>>56165510
Why do you keep larping in these threads?
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>join the infantry
>find out we’re deploying once I’m back with my unit to the Middle East
>never show up
>call XO a Kike loving nigger faggot am I will not die for israel that I’m a proud fascist and I only used you dumb niggers to learn your ins and outs
>block them
>learning Russian rn to see if I can throw my gun with the DPM in Russia
Its been a couple months since then feels good
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>>56172488
It is assumed that you are physically capable. If you lack the physical capability to complete a program yet sign up for it, then you are mentally incapable of applying "mind over matter" by virtue of being mentally unstable and irrational.
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>>56173725
You know you're gonna end up in prison right? You won't even make it out of the country
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>>56167064
I don't get it.
>ha you homos
>*they walk away*
>you fags!!!!!
>*they continue walking away*
>you satanist sodomites
>*they are still walking away*
I don't think this is some epic own or anything. This is just kind of sad.
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>>56173854
Its easy to see that they're seething and can't do anything but cope. I'm more upset with the military for allowing all this fag shit than I am at him for calling it out tbdesu.
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>>56173814
Proof recruiters lurk here trying to pluck good men to turn them into Jewish slaves we must answer the mutt question soon my friends
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>>56173725
Enjoy having a drone drop a grenade on your forehead during the 56th Bakhmut Offensive.
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>>56171082
>What do you need to do to amke the CIA or NSA interested in hiring you?
Cryptography, Technology, above 100 IQ because they test similar to ASVAB. They aren't hiring boomers that can't use computers.
They are also hiring people who have had other agency or military jobs.
So for example if you joined as an officer and applied, they would be interested in you and would likely give you a job as long as you had the degree.
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How easy is it to be a vegan in the US military? Do they provide non-animal based clothing (on request if necessary), any vegan rations etc? How does it compare branch to branch?
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>>56174382
>Do they provide non-animal based clothing (on request if necessary)
Lol, lmao.
>any vegan rations etc?
No. There are vegetarian MREs but that's about it.
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>>56174421
Was just curious, in the UK they're not great at it but you can get mostly vegan uniform aside from beret, and even then your CoC can approve a non-wool beret if you manage to source an alternative.

Rations are vegetarian at best here also but there are vegan meals within the ration packs so you can do some swapping and have enough vegan meals to last you. It does seem to be moving the way of becoming easier to be vegan in the armed forces thankfully.
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>>56173854
This appeals to the same type of person that cheered on atheists when they would storm into a church and shout about how much they hated Jesus, and just as embarrassing to watch.
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>>56174382
>>56174460
Kill yourself you stupid degenerate troon
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>>56174290
Beats dying to an IED by a talichad who get shot in the back by the ANA
Glory bro israel Amrite?
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>>56174550
less than 3k americans died in afghanistan over 20 years of war, 90k russians died in 10 months. its safter in afghanistan than chicago. Most americans who deployed never saw combat, and most roles are not combat roles
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>>56174658
>Most americans who deployed never saw combat
This has got to be the ultimate cuckening.
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>>56174730
why? they got to sit in a base eating burgers making like 10k a month doing jack shit. and after get gi bill
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>>56172488
I DID say you must also be fit enough in my post.
I didn't go to SFAS. I went to RASP, and they made it their mission to absolutely shit on marginal performers and bring them in front of the class to let everyone know who they were, they were like that.
Hypothetically you could barely squeeze by, but that would be very hard and you would more than likely wash out.
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>>56174793
>they made it their mission to absolutely shit on marginal performers and bring them in front of the class to let everyone know who they were, they were like that.
Well now I am just curious..what did this look like specifically? Public roast session? Or was it more "i'm not mad, i'm just disappointed"?
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>>56174856
For my class's case, a combination.

We could be doing a hours long smoke session, doing ruck presses, and they would then play a game to where if we could just hold the rucks over our heads for 2 minutes, we'll be done. Of course one little guy kept tipping and falling over and they'd be all like "ahhhhh back to zero!". This would go on for some time and eventually candidates next to the guy would start yelling at him to fucking quit and he's fucking weak holding back the class, which the Cadre cheered on this cutthroat attitude multiple times throughout the course
Eventually they surrounded him and screamed in his face until he broke down and through his ruck down and left the formation
Another way they would call you out during smoke sessions like "roster # x skipping reps again everyone, thank them later!"
Or they would call you out in other ways

Another memorable thing I remember is early on we did neck drags in the deep gravel while it was like 90-100° out, and you would be barely making any progress as your feet and hands would slide out from under you, as you attempted to drag your buddy just 50 meters. If your knees touched the ground or you sat on your buddy and if they caught you you would be sent to the very beginning, and some dudes had to redo it like 3 or 5 times. I luckily got away doing it once. But during that session they screamed at one kid who looked very tiny, whom they forced to drag a burly 230+lb candidate, and they just teamed up to scream in his face until he broke down because he couldn't even move 5 feet

There was a whole load of instances.
But at the end of the day this isn't a fucking summer camp, a fucking feel good club, this is the way to get into Regiment to where you're being deployed overseas and seeing action before you even know it.
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>>56175020
Neat
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>>56175020
Do they still use these?
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>>56175092
They still do
We were once smoked at 11pm on day 1 until 4am on day 2, and then did the Swim Assessment
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>>56167064
This is based and I'm tired of pretending its not. Idk why there are so many faggot sympathizers itt who approve of the military promoting queer shit.
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>>56175432
Stop replying to yourself, sweetie. Up up up, don't edit that class="quotelink ql-tracked" either, honey
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>>56175626
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>>56167725
He's some infantry private who doesn't know shit. Ignore him.
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>>56159785
>be me, driving on a bumfuck nowhere road in the southwest, nearest gas station is 20 miles out
>see a stalled out truck on the side of the road, 30 year old woman inside
>prepare to stop and help her
>see US Army veteran sticker on the back
>speed up and drive away
no regrets lol
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>>56177256
based
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>>56174382
>Do they provide non-animal based clothing (on request if necessary),
No
>any vegan rations etc?
Yes absolutely and vegans meals at the DFAC. Don't listen to that other retard who clearly isn't in the military. I have 2 pescetarians (no except fish) and 3 muslims in my unit (no pork), and my CoC jumps through hoops to make sure they get enough food when meals are being provided. I've been t 3 different DFACs and all of them have accommodated dietary restrictions.
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>>56177256
Based self-sufficiency respecter
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>highschool senior (18 btw)
>raised by single mom
>3.88 gpa
>mom can't afford college tuition
>don't want to take out student loans
>work a part time job at a computer repair shop but most of my meager earnings go to living expenses
>have A+ and NET + cert from school
>have the option to take the JLPT 4 next semester
>interested in naval history, read books about it on my spare time
>when I play HOI4 I only play as the USA or Britain because I enjoy the naval game
The Navy is practically suggesting itself isn't it? I'm going to talk to the navy recruiter next time he visits our school.
Am I about to make a bad decision?
I realize the Navy will own my soul for four years but I don't really see any other way out of my current economic bracket.
I'm going to study for the ASVAB and work on my fitness levels. Should I do anything else?
I'm 5'11 and 130 lbs so I'm pretty light. I already started doing the starting strength lifts + 30-45 minutes of cardio at the school gym. I'm trying to add more protein to my diet too.
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>>56178409
If you're gonna join the military, make sure you know what you're getting into and have a plan.
Something like CTN wouldn't be a bad move.
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>>56178409
NROTC
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>>56178531
I'm pretty autistic desu. I don't think it's a good idea for me to go into any type of leadership role.
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>>56178576
>I'm pretty autistic desu.
Nuke
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>>56175020
Another instance, they would do shit just to piss you off and make you irritated,
Like taking all 300 lockers from both floors of the bays and taking them downstairs outside, then taking them all back up to rearrange them.
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>>56179120
Hello, do you have any recommended exercises or important tips I should keep in mind for rasp?
I qualify for an option 40, just waiting on some medical files to change the 0s to 1s on my pulhes. I can currently run 5 mi in 34:54 and execute 80 pushups, 76 sit-ups, and 25 chin-ups. I've rucked 4 miles in 46:36 with a 45lb backpack dry, I'm new to rucking. I'm fairly confident in the water as I surf recreationally but I have been getting my pool work in. I can complete all the events of the acft to the maximum standard except for the spt (12.2m) and sdc (dont have the equipment).
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>>56167369
> enlisted guard retard thinking everyone needs to join because of MUH BRAVERY, MUH MILITARY SERVICE, MUH GREAT SACRIFICE
> Literally in the Guard, meaning he looked at every single 18x contract, every single 11x Option 40 contract, and every active 11x contract and said no to it
> while acting like the above sperg
Kek
>>56167725
Ignore the retard, go for it if that's what you want. Sorry I can't offer any advice for Coast Guard but nobody in the real world, or even the military gives a fuck if you direct commission.
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What do soldiers do? Like, generally speaking. Do they just hang out on bases or are they sent around the world to go fight people all the time?

Sorry if you're not allowed to tell me that, please ignore if that's the case, I don't know anything about the military much less what is and is not secret.
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>>56180035
You might have autism, anon
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>>56180035
depends on their job anon. not everyone's job is combat. look at a job list of the army, air force, or navy and you will find the answers you seek.
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>>56179972
Ok so if you are honest and you are at that level then that's a good thing, just maintain that when you go through OSUT, because you're in a great spot if true

For reccomended lifts, alot of leg stuff, squat, weighted lunges, if you need to, and just do more rucking but honestly if you've weightlifted for a while and done lowerbody training rucking never is a problem, it's mostly a mental game unless you're tiny.

Do Overhead press, practice ruck presses if you want to get the feel,
Maybe even try sandbag training

Everything you described is good and you should just maintain it in OSUT. Thank God you have a 14 week cycle and not a fucking 22 week 6 month slog like I did.

Most importantly don't psyche out, and don't be a little bitch.
OSUT will suck ass, because it's just going to be lame as fuck, if you're going the 11B route. It will have its moments but it won't be as bad as some say, take what you can like learning to shoot expert level qualification scores and retain knowledge on Patrol bases and other aspects, and stay motivated

When you get picked up and go to PreRasp, you're going to be smoked in the gravel for hours and hours as you process in. Then you join the rest of the class and stand around in the gravel in formation, reading study material,(study that shit, it sucks ass getting recycled for failing the fucking history test, make flash cards)and doing ridiculous PT every morning, because believe me, when you leave OSUT, it goes 0-100. You get released every day and you can go to the gym and rest in the bay, unless you have a bad day. Focus on mitigating overuse injuries and stretch and roll often

When you class up and go to Phase 1 it will be like going 100-1000, they're going to be relentless and hound you and they're just gonna be fucking you and everyone up, and when you get to Cole range it's like a Fever dream.

Just don't be a bitch and just do it, that's all I can say.

Don quit either, you'll get blacklisted and NTRd
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>>56159785
Any info on US coast guard direct commissioning? I want to join, but it will have to be reserves since I am past active duty age, but well under max age.
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>>56178409
>>have A+ and NET + cert from school

Lmao literal high schoolers are getting CompTIA certs now. These things are a meme.
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>>56180287
Thanks for your detailed response man, I really appreciate it. I'm trying to be a 68W. I get really in my head at times and psyche out a bit and it makes it hard to continue my training routines every now and then. I got my hands on a Ranger handbook and have been studying the history, I already have the creed memorized. Thanks for the advice man, I'll never forget it. Hope to cross paths with you some day.
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>>56180440
>>56167206
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>>56180676
>now
They always were a meme
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>>56180077
maybe

>>56180153
?

>>56180249
ok thank you
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>>56180788

Yeah...

At least I got them for free courtesy of the Army instead of being at work.
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>>56178409
>>work a part time job at a computer repair shop but most of my meager earnings go to living expenses
>>have A+ and NET + cert from school
>>have the option to take the JLPT 4 next semester
>>interested in naval history, read books about it on my spare time
>>when I play HOI4 I only play as the USA or Britain because I enjoy the naval game
bait post
>I'm 5'11 and 130 lbs
lmao

If this is real then you shouldn't join the military with your intelligence. You should go get a stem degree then go become an officer or wherever life takes you.
Being an enlisted is shit if you have 100+ IQ. It's all fine and dandy until a fucking retard monkey is telling you that you did something wrong when you didn't, and you have the papers to prove that you didn't, yet you STILL get fucked because he has a higher rank or is some pet of an NCO.
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>>56178576
Go be Airforce. You won't regret it.
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>>56180035
Majority of time is spent training or doing a routine no matter the MOS. 25% of the time is doing lots of nothing or waiting around. Routine that you do depends on the MOS. Combat deployment isn't specific to an MOS. When you get deployed to a combat zone you are doing your routine (as mission demands), but in that different place whether it be Iraq, USA, or Korea. The only difference is if you're getting shot at for realsies and sand.
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>>56180904
How do I get a STEM degree without going into debt?
Even with scholarships I don't think I can get a 4 year degree without at least 20-25 k in debt. I don't think I can work + handle a full course load, and anything less than a full course load will make my degree more expensive.
>lmao
pls no bully I am malnourish
I bet if my family was rich I'd be 6'4 or some shit.
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>>56159785
Nice previous, faggot
>>56163137
I genuinely don’t know how people couldn’t do a single leg tuck. But then again there are some beluga tier fatasses here in reg army. I was sick last month for our acft and still broke 550.
>>56163160
I just got a keurig, those McCafé cups are so fucking good surprisingly
>>56163554
Trade school. You’ll get to actually do your job and make a livable wage from it too.
>>56163927
Gate guards can be whatever unit is on red cycle. The Paul Blarts here just sit in their cars while we scan people in
>>56167064
Serves them right for having cock brooms on their faces
>>56168081
The foxes in our bat just order parts for us and have the company armorers install shit. Sometimes they have to unfuck an ate up 50 reciever that’s stuck on the barrel thread I guess.
>>56168886
Gen 4 isn’t too bad I guess. It’s better than that Kevlar blanket on gen 3’s at least.
>>56173725
Based bait. I support desertion
>>56174382
Please keep coming back you make me smile with these posts
>>56177256
Based
>>56178576
>I’m pretty autistic
You’ll fit right in with modern day military leadership
>>56181712
Holy fucking lol
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>>56181928
>How do I get a STEM degree without going into debt?
You don't.
After you get a STEM degree, you use it to make 50k+.
Use your paycheck to pay off the loan. You won't because you will end up buying a house and a car.
You don't pay on these loans while you are in school.

I got a B.S. immediately after high school. For the rest of your life you are ranked above your peers. You are in the top 10% of the population if it's STEM and from a good school.
This isn't to discourage joining the military. In fact you should go get a STEM degree and join the ROTC at your University. It's all about the options that you will have later in life.

If you enlist you won't get a B.S. until at least 4 years later. When you're 22 you may not want to be assed to get a degree so you go to get a job in whatever you can land thanks to you being a vet.
The problem is that when you're 38 and you're looking for jobs, the job you had might not have given you good experience for a career.
You can't rejoin the military because you're too old.
You could go to school, but how are you going to pay for it?
You might have a family so you're pegged into searching for a shitty job as all the good jobs require a B.S. You will regret not getting one when you had the chance.

This is a story that is far too common for intelligent people.
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>>56181928
Do the FAFSA https://studentaid.gov/h/apply-for-aid/fafsa even if you aren't going to use it.
do scholarships and look specifically for military ones.
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What’s the USAF’s rules for wearing civilian clothes off base? Can’t find anything on it online.
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>>56182177

What do you mean? If you're off duty you wear civilians.
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>>56181712
Armybros.. not like this...
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>>56182068
This is a great breakdown.
I would add, he can look for state universities with in-state tuition rates. STEM can be cheap. Add in one or two paid internships and you are probably set for life. Then if you still have a military itch you can go NG/reserves or just larp.

A more wild card option would be trying to squeeze into one of the servive academies and doing a hard-science degree program there, but unless you're a top 1% turbochad it's unlikely.
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>>56167200
List? Could you share it here in Minecraft?
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>>56182177
Probably can’t find any rules because they don’t exist. You’re free to wear your trannoid shit when you aren’t drone striking kids for your Jew master.
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>>56182177
Not allowed.
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>>56182352
>A more wild card option would be trying to squeeze into one of the servive academies and doing a hard-science degree program there, but unless you're a top 1% turbochad it's unlikely.

Honestly if you're going STEM there isn't much reason to go the military route. You're really just fucking up a potentially lucrative career.

Like you can have a CS degree and still get put in something retarded like Air Defense and even the closest thing, Signal, doesn't really help you either. Wow, you "managed" a handful of soldiers that were barely at the level of a Tier 1 help desk and got Sec+, impressive! Not.
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>>56182413
Yes but women look down on tech workers but will throw themselves at men in uniforms. Whats the point of paying 100k for a degree that turns you into a permaincel?
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>>56182468
>Yes but women look down on tech workers

More like they look down on sexually aggressive Indians that compulsively harass women or permavirgin nerds that can't even attempt to carry a conversation, neither of which are know for their stellar personal hygiene either.
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>>56181982
>I genuinely don’t know how people couldn’t do a single leg tuck. But then again there are some beluga tier fatasses here in reg army. I was sick last month for our acft and still broke 550.

People really underestimate how bad the level of fitness in support MOS and staff sections can be.

Like I moved from a combat arms line company to a HHC and it was amazing how lazy they were.
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>>56182413
>if you're going STEM there isn't much reason to go the military route. You're really just fucking up a potentially lucrative career.
Muh benefits muthafucka
Free Healthcare. Gives you the power to negotiate 20k~ less/more in big boy jobs.
You get put to the top of the list when you apply as long as you have base requirements fulfilled.
Networking opportunities are everywhere.
Depending on your route in STEM, if you want to be mr. manager you pretty much have a golden ticket.
If you don't want to be the boss then at least you will get brownie points for being a veteran.

But after you get your STEM degree in 4 years it's hard to know what you want in life. Most don't pick the military because for 4 years you make between 20 to 50k when you could be making 50k to 100k starting.
At least be an officer, and if not an officer, join the chair force.
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>another pog/ocs/college filled thread
I miss my grunts. Fuck you faggots.
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>>56182468
>but will throw themselves at men in uniforms
lol, lmao
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>>56182529

If you count fat townies near a military base I guess but other than that lol
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>>56182529
it's how I met your mother so don't knock it
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>>56181712
This is too good to be real but the pain in his face says otherwise
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>>56182468
>throw themselves at men in uniforms
Even at autistic nukes?
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I heard an associate’s degree is required to make E8 in the Air Force. Is there any other branch that does this or something similar?
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>>56183196
I’m trans by the way, sorry forgot to mention
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Is it possible to be a successful infantryman if you have aspergers?
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>>56183353
You make it sound like a bad thing.
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Will joining the Army make me a better person. I’m a pussy who has no discipline.
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>>56179972
Not the other anon, not sure if he’s larping but he’s forgetting some core work out advice for you. Take a look at special warfare community statistics, specifically statistics involving weight / height. The best thing for you to do is try to get your weight down as much as possible. The average operator is a Manlet (5-9, 5-10) and about 170-175. A lot of people fall into the body builder trap where they think they should get as big and buff as possible in order to pass qualification, when in fact the complete opposite is what you need. Take a look at some photos of tri athletes, you’ll want to look like one of them instead as well as train as a tri athlete. VO2 Max + cardio is all you need to pass qualification. By training as a triathlete, the proper joints and muscles needed to handle sustained beatings and ruckings will be built up. Do not try to get big, all you’re doing is hurting yourself as you’ll have more muscle to eat up oxygen you need to keep going when things get tough
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>>56185532
hell no lol
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>>56185532
No, but it might give you a few good stories
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>>56181712
>manlet
>balding
It was already over for him
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>>56183196
No but why is this a concern for you? The Air Force gives you free community college credits
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>>56185532
Refer to >>56181712 and >>56167064
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>>56159785
can a foreigner serve in the US military and what is the process
t. eastern europoor
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>>56186534
Have to move here and be granted permanent residence (green card). Then you just join like anyone else, basically.
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>>56177381
Thanks anon. I will get to experience a US DFAC soon (not in US though) so I hope it will be better than our cookhouses.
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>>56186612
green card is hard as hell to get though, and canada rewards citizenship for signing up, also i dont need a visa for leafland
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>>56187141
Go to Canada then. You’re not missing out on anything and you’ll get to smoke weed there. Also cadpat’s BiS camo
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>>56185663
Depends on the person, I would recommend you become as heavy as possible, while still maintaining a 37 minute 5 mile, you will lose weight in these kinds of selections, its never a bad idea to have some extra fat to burn, not uncommon to burn 15-20 pounds by the time you're finished. Also if you're a true manlet (5'4-5'6) you'll need to be above 150 atleast.
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>>56185663
i'm 5'11 and 170, lean but bottom heavy. my vo2 max could definitely use some improvement. thanks for the adice
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>>56182468
mailman bros we made it..
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>>56187586
>Also if you're a true manlet (5'4-5'6) you'll need to be above 150 atleast.
Women set the standards on what is considered to be a manlet. According to women, anything under 6'0 ft is a manlet
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>>56167064
>are you here to spread sodomy?

Why are chuds so cringe?
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>>56188646
Who gives a fuck what women think? Do you?
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Former Air Force linguist, now full time GI bill welfare queen, AMA if you have any linguist (or GI Bill and disability I guess) questions. I worked with all branches, so I have mostly AF knowledge but might be able to answer some stuff about the job in other branches. I'll check back in on this post for a while for (you)s.

Basic stuff:
>Didn't get to choose my language
>Didn't get to choose duty station, but it's likely either Ft Gordon, Ft Meade or overseas for moonrunes languages
>DLI is a blast if you're decently smart, can be hell if you're bad in class
>Job opportunities in the field are easy to get and lucrative unless you lose your war and your low-flow lang becomes useless
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>>56189049
Can I join as a linguist and get taught japanese so I can get a duty station at Neko Gaijin Genki Romaji?
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>>56189049
are you disabled or ""disabled""?
what lang did you get
Did you pick your current major for fun or for career prospects
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The Army missed its recruitment goal for fiscal 2022 by 25% or 15,000 soldiers, the military service said earlier this month. In July, it also cut its projection for the overall size of its force for this fiscal year by 10,000 and projected that it would likely see another decline in 2023.

Why?
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>>56189435
Absolutely "disabled", but I didn't try to milk it, I just sent them my records and took what they gave me. Shit seems totally arbitrary, but I won't complain about free money.

Pashto

Both thankfully, glad they overlapped.

>>56189301
O-of course, baka!
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>>56189476
Men want adventure and the last foreverwar is nevermore. So there's no point.
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>>56189527
Recruitment was shit during the foreverwars, though. The troop surge saw them letting felons and asvab waivers galore to keep up with demand.
Think it has more to do with the fact that:
1. The US Army historically usually has issues making numbers. We're reverting to normal times where they take anyone they can get.
2. MHS genesis
3. Low levels of patriotism
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I fucking hate how snotty some of these air force kids are a lot of the people I come across are always fucking competitive and act like they are better than you. Honestly I wish I didn't have to interact with any of them and could just go home to people that I actually like.
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>>56189581
Not sure I see it. USAF is stereotypically the dorky/silly/weeb branch for enlisted, and for offices it's more of a corporation or evangelical cult.
What type of unit? If they were really competitive they could have done cool guy stuff instead.
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>>56178409
Submarines
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>>56178409
>no other options
Yes. Navy boot camp is easy, but that's the point. You're not supposed to fail since you have few options.
Go with something technical.
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>>56189049
>Hurts to move my shoulder, and some strength loss, because of a partially torn labrum (got an MRI scan confirming it but no physical therapy because COVID and shift work)
>Erectile dysfunction (no joke, I get meds for it)
>Probable anxiety disorder that I haven't told medical about
>Tinnitus that I haven't told medical about
>Hurt my back last week but I don't think it's an actual injury, haven't told medical about it
What do you think my disability rating is going to be?
I'm yellow on my PHA (whoops), do you have any recommendations for what I should tell them when I get around to doing it?
I separate in six months, do you have any general recommendations?
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>>56163554
In army ait and learned how to be a welder and machinist it's not bad training is good admin shit and general fuckery is pretty high.
-t 91E
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>>56190596
>Hurt my back last week
Go to sick call Monday. Medical from back alone nets enough neetbux to live comfortably. Look up the specifics though, there’s a certain angle they will have you try to bend past and that’s a make or break of around 30% in benefits right there. I highly suggest you se yourself up for success next week.
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>>56190596
>Erectile dysfunction (no joke, I get meds for it)
Wouldn't this have to be service-connected?
Like, prove you got your dick battle-stomped or fucked a gas tank in the line of duty?
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>>56190596
>Shoulder pain from dislocation
Rated for me
>Undiagnosed anxiety
Rated for me and I didn't even ask, but know others with documented mission related anxiety/PTS that got denied. Go figure.
>Tinnitus
Rated for me
>Back injury
Tell medical
>Getting out in 6mo
Tell medical about anything that's wrong with you before you separate. Don't make shit up for neetbux but don't leave out anything that actually hurts you.
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Is there way for me to become a Intel nerd without joining the military
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>>56191046
It can fall under service related conditions along with anxiety and depression. On another note there’s currently trannies in the military getting prescription test complexly free. One of them works in our dfac.
>>56192451
Yeah
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>>56190667
>Medical from back alone nets enough neetbux to live comfortably.

More like barely a car payment.
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>>56189476
The economy is too weird right now to make the military competitive. A job at mcdonalds or starbucks full time pays more than what a e1-e4 makes under 4 years of service

>but benefits/college
offered by maccies and starbucks

>muh BAH
Impossible to get until you become a NCO. Most commands will make you live in the barracks until you sew e5
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>>56189476
further these are officer candidates, not enlisted soldiers
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>>56193580
>Impossible to get until you become a NCO. Most commands will make you live in the barracks until you sew e5

In CONUS Army it is almost always E-6.

Given that it is typical to serve a paygrade or two higher in position you could be a squad leader making less than your straight out of AIT privates that can't even PMCS a truck without supervision.
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>>56193600
>stuck in the barracks until e6
No wonder no one is re-enlisting, fuck that. Thankfully the other branches are not as autistic about that as the army is
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>>56189476
Enlisted has too awful pay at the start.
Everyone is going to University/College.
Everyone is joining as an Officer instead.
Vaccine stops people who need a job from joining.
Nationalism is record low.
Everyone learns about 9/11, Iraq, and the Middle East online, tiktok, insta, etc, which hurts recruitment.
Military continues to make ads that cater to a minority of individuals.
Officers doing social justice is not appealing to those willing to enlist.
Youtube revealing what basic training and boot camp is like turns off many people. The worst thing about those basic training videos is a short twig of a woman yelling at 6' 18 year olds. That's not breaking down people for the better. That's just fucking up your headspace in all kinds of ways. It's one thing to have a tough alpha male do it, it's another to have some shrimp female do it.
Veteran and Enlisted suicides are 50+ per day and word is getting out.
https://www.uso.org/stories/2664-military-suicide-rates-are-at-an-all-time-high-heres-how-were-trying-to-help
https://www.mentalhealth.va.gov/docs/data-sheets/2021/2021-National-Veteran-Suicide-Prevention-Annual-Report-FINAL-9-8-21.pdf
Most Americans are now too obese to join.
Most Americans are now too retarded to join.
Most Americans now have zero motivation.

The two biggest advantages to join is free healthcare and you get veteran preferences on a job application.

Increase enlisted pay to officer and increase officer to x1.5 and you will see many more people join enlisted, and less join the officer side.
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>>56193898
>Vaccine stops people who need a job from joining.
You don't need to be vaxxed to join the military, stop falling for vatnik psyops
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>>56166988
VERY, nay, EXTREMELY difficult to do. One of my old officers on a 378 I was on was a lawyer and he only barely made the cut and that was when the competition was non-existant. Nowadays? You either go through the Academy or you become a Warrant. Only ways to be addressed as Sir.
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>>56194012
Yes, you are required to receive the covid-19 vaccination in order to enlist in the united states military.
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>>56194012
You're a fucking retard.
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>>56189476
Do you think that will increase my chance of getting a hearing waiver to go in as a warrant pilot?
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>>56193528
>car payments
You’re off to a great start retard. 1,500 a month is more than enough to never have to work a normal job again.
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>>56193600
Can confirm from Fort Vanessa Guillen this is true. My old SL has been in for 7 or so years now, still in the barracks. He’s a promotable 5 too. But the fag privates marrying each other can get a house the same day they file the paperwork lol
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>>56195163
>1,500 a month is more than enough to never have to work a normal job again
Yeah, if you move to the Philippines
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>>56195220
You reek of c*lifornian.
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I've been in 5 years and just went to my second command. Didnt reenlist but extended to meet the required service length for these orders. Qualified in aviation composites and metal working. I honestly dont know what to do at this point and have just been going with the flow since i joined. Part of me wants to go to college and then come back in as a pilot. Another part wants to cross over to army and do the flying warrant program (but i really dont feel like going back to bootcamp as an E-5) and another part of me just wants to get out and go work for lockheed or raytheon in TX. I'm so lost bros.
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>>56195214
>My old SL has been in for 7 or so years now, still in the barracks.

It's quite possible that's he's just a cheap bastard. He hasn't made the effort to get married like other people would have done.
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>>56194012
Mandatory .mil vaxes have been a thing since like yellow fever in 1938
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>>56194096
>Nowadays? You either go through the Academy or you become a Warrant. Only ways to be addressed as Sir.
Commission sources by JO rank, from the most recent register of officers:

LCDR: 52% Academy, 30% OCS, 13% DCO, 2% CWO, 2% ROCI/SRDC
LT: 51% Academy, 30% OCS, 10% DCO, 7% CWO to LT
LTJG: 52% Academy, 36% OCS, 12% DCO
ENS: 45% Academy, 44% OCS, 10% DCO
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>>56197048
Are ROTC numbers reflected as Academy as well?
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>>56197119
Coast Guard doesn't have ROTC
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>>56197119
If you mean CSPI that is technically tracked as its own commission source but in practice it's just a funnel into OCS
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>>56159785
Shalom glowniggers. I might want to enlist but I won't take a vaccine that killed my cousin. Is there an exemption yet?
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I might want to enlist but i would have punched the drill sergeant in the face if he yelled at me
I might want to enlist but I had to take care of other things at home first and
I might want to enlist but uhhh what else
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>>56194452
>>56194453
>>56197013
Please learn reading comprehension. You are not required to be vaxxed to join the military. Please show me the point in the enlistment process where you are given a vaccine at either the recruiters office or MEPS. You receive vaccines during 0/1st week depending on the branch, which by that point you are already a paid member of the US military

Stop spreading misinformation, vaccines are not required to JOIN any US military branch.

Protip: You cannot.
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>>56197245
No you dumb nigger I just don't want to die of the same poison that killed my cousin. Retarded glownigger.
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>>56167064
>stay away from our white women
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>>56197249
So it is still required to remain a member? So they are right.
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>>56197275
>requiring something to enlist (JOIN)
>requiring something to remain a member (SERVE)
Not the same thing. You can easily join and decline the vaccine at which point you'll be trapped in med hold for 4-5 weeks while waiting on separation documents. If you play your cards right, you can easily delay your separation for another 1-5 weeks to allow yourself to cross over the 90-day threshold you need in order to receive veteran benefits.

During the separation process, request an appeal and if that fails then request a religious exemption, that should tie up your sep process by at least 10 weeks. You still get paid while you're in med hold and you get to sit around and do nothing all day
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>>56197128
Ah, should have read whole thread. Lulz.

SMC I went to had CG contract badges which I always thought was strange. The kids would do Aux work until they went to OCS after graduation. Was always a little strange.
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>>56197319
You're arguing semantics but now I'm curious. So you get paid up to 3 months and possibily be eligible for full benefits (GI bill health care,+)?
Would this eventual discharge be honorable or dishonorable?
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>>56197384
It all depends on how the case plays out for you. Being kicked out of the military while in training usually lands you a ELS (Entry level separation) which is uncharacterized, however the VA still sees you as serving honorably provided you serve at least 90-180 days.

Refusing the vaccine could land you an OTH discharge which is bad but getting kicked out for not receiving a religious exemption would land you general under honorable discharge which grants you benefits. Additionally, some branches (I forgot which ones) are no longer giving people dishonorable discharges for refusing the vaccine, as congress put a stop to that a few months back (IIRC). There is a bill in flight to give all service members honorable discharges for vaccine refusal.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/coronavirus/2022/05/10/bill-would-mandate-honorable-discharge-for-all-troops-who-refuse-covid-vaccine-mandate/
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>>56197681
Very interesting. Thank you for the information. Effortposting is rare nowadays. I actually am very religious in a tradition that doesnt allow vaccines so if anyone qualified for a religious exemption it would be me. Thx fren.
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>>56193898
>>56189476
>>56193580
>>56193600
This is going to wildly piss some people off because it's too true but the Army needs to start treating its junior enlisted better. No more "I was treated like shit when I first joined so you have to be, too"
Just straight up kick any NCO on an OTH if they're being unprofessional, replace with new leadership.
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>>56197828
That will never happen, you're basically asking for a way to overwrite human nature for people who are exposed to a system in a certain way for most of their adulthood.

Much like how gay and tranny rights will always be around because white people exist, NCOs will always treat lower enlisted like shit because humans are vindicative and do not like others receiving benefits that they haven't. This is also multiplied by the fact that the army attracts bottom of the barrel individuals who haven't had any other real-world experience, and you end up with a cyclical system that takes pride in abusing lower level enlisted.
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>>56178409
Get CTN, do your minimum/use TA to get a degree or use GI Bill and get it when you get out, apply for OCS as intel/crypie/IP if you want to stay in tech or apply for Pilot etc. Make LT after four years and make $120k/year. Retire as O4/O5 at age 40. ez
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>>56197384
>GI bill
Uncharacterized or general under honorable conditions won't qualify for GI bill. Health care doesn't apply, that's only if you're active, retired after 20, or got a service-connected disability. You won't meet the 24 months for VA home loan and you won't have any veteran's preference since we're in peacetime. Some state jobs might use a different preference system. Really there aren't that many benefits contrary to popular belief and you wouldn't hit any of them.
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>>56197828
Junior enlisted deserve to be treated like shit. If you were an NCO or O you would understand.
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>>56197994
It's 24 continuous months or 90 days active duty for the VA loan.
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>>56197970
>That will never happen, you're basically asking for a way to overwrite human nature for people who are exposed to a system in a certain way for most of their adulthood.
I know, that's why I said the Army should just kick them out on OTH discharges. Don't waste time trying to "change the culture" or something, just give them the boot and replace them. Most of them are already on profile or just too old to be useful if the country actually goes to war anyways.
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>>56198057
Every reason you have for hating lower enlisted applies to ncos, you know damn well NCOs are just lower enlisted who knew they wouldn't make it in the civilian world. I've seen E9s who definitely wouldn't be able to hold down an entry level job in civdiv.
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>>56198253
>NCOs are just lower enlisted who knew they wouldn't make it in the civilian world
t. e-2
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>>56198291
>t. actually had a real job before
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Daily reminder that the state:

>pushes crt on all it's citizens
>pushes transgenderism on kids
>imports migrants by the million to eliminate the power of voting blocs and to keep wages low
>does nothing to counter environmental toxins lowering fertility
>does nothing to increase the birthrate of their already existing populaces

And you idiots signed up to fight and defend this system, to be their useful idiots. Take your lives to their inevitable ends.
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>>56198351
we're coming for you next and you won't do anything about it
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>>56198399
i didn't say respond, i said kill yourself you low iq jarhead retard
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>>56198351
>>imports migrants by the million to eliminate the power of voting blocs and to keep wages low
>cares about cardinal direction politics
Back to /pol/ you go, you low iq cretin
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>>56198438
Low IQ? You misunderstand, I'm not in the military, the sanctuary of the mouth breather.
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"Just don't care about politics bro! Joining the army and killing Middle Easterners abroad is apolitical bro!"
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>>56198438
The migration thing is a valid concern.
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>>56198474
>Joining the army and killing Middle Easterners abroad is apolitical bro!"

america left the sandpit a while ago, middle easterners are last weeks news
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>>56198474
it is and it's based
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>>56198548
>people that care about america should abandon the military
why not it worked so well for politics and academia
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>>56198548
>Jarheads and low IQ idiots still flood the ranks of the army to project American power across the world at no benefit to the American people

most of the sit on base a do nothing

>Right-leaning males need to abandon military institutions. It's time to neuter the neoliberals.

or you could join, learn skills, make connections, and reform the structure. This is why rightoids loose, they think the institution is over and leave, just like university and political structures the just leave. Not sending your kid to uni, not having them join clubs and associations. YOu could learn skills in 4 years and train others off it, as well make connections that would establish you well with other right wingers
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>>56198564
Politics and academia is different to foreign policy. The war machine not making money has way more drastic consequences.
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>>56198574
>This is why rightoids loose, they think the institution is over and leave, just like university and political structures the just leave.
I said abandon the military, not academia/the private sector.

Any of the skills you would learn in the army you can just learn from being a reservist in the NG (?). Anything else and there's the risk of deployment.
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>>56198574
>most of the sit on base a do nothing

They sit on base and do nothing but they still make up the numbers and allow the US to bully the world.
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>>56198604
>I said abandon the military, not academia/the private sector.

conservatives have done both academia, politics, and the military. Most are anti-intellectualism, higher learning too. Not even sending their kids to places to make connections.

>Any of the skills you would learn in the army you can just learn from being a reservist in the NG (

or you can enlist full time in a non combat roll as an NCO, get a GI bill and do something with that. Connections and changing the structure and influencing people are more valuable than small unit, tactics, fire groups. Considering if a civil war happens, which it wont. The skills of leadership, unit cohesion, group dynamics is more important
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>>56198619
post guns
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>>56197249
You are just making things up. I suspect that you are just some shill paid to attempt and increase recruiting numbers as anybody who has access to a computer can simply google the medical enlistment standards for the US Military. As of 2021, all entering members of the armed forces are required to receive their vaccination of the covid-19 vaccine.

This is non-negotiable for enlistment. If you are enlisting in the military, they require you to get the vaccine in basic training or prior to shipping out.
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>>56197384
He is a recruiting shill. Just going to basic training will not qualify you for benefits. It is not worth suffering in basic training with the intent of becoming a wellfare queen and trying to get kicked out only after a certain window.
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>>56197734
At this time, the armed forces are not allowing the use of religious exemptions for the covid-19 vaccination.
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>>56167108
I got banned for saying that if these retards want to actually fight globohomo they’d be shooting politicians instead of harassing randos with no control over globohomo ideology in a mall
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>>56199158
Tbf the pogs are the paid thugs of those politicians.
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>>56199089
>everything that goes against my viewpoint is a paid shill
You won't be able to enlist as you need to take medication, sorry anon
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>>56199122
That is both gay and retarded.
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>>56197249
Word games aren't going to help military recruitment.
You're fucking retarded.
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>>56197384
You wouldn't get to that point in the process.
If you aren't vaccinated or you would refuse to get vaccinated they aren't going to process you.
https://news.usni.org/2021/12/14/military-recruits-required-to-sign-statement-acknowledging-covid-19-vaccine-mandate-before-training
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>>56194515
Hearing waivers aren't too difficult to get in general afaik. The recruiting shortage will have little effect on it but you have a decent shot of getting a waiver regardless.
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>>56197828
My intent is to not piss anyone off, it's actually to cover the asses of recruiters.
Out of the 4 or so times I've experienced recruitment. (high school, college, Navy nuke officer, Army officer) only the nuke officer was garbage.

It's not their fault that certain things have made enlistment wildly unpopular. Quick Ship bonuses help a lot so I hope they increase those in the future.
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>>56199276
>I have issues properly utilizing and understanding the meaning of basic english words
>le word games when someone makes a statement that goes against my worldview

There are plenty of 11B slots open for low VE/PC line score individuals such as yourself.

>>56199307
This "acknowledgement" is only for the USMC.
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>>56199163
And if you choose to work and earn an income you’re choosing to pay those thugs and politicians
If you want an anti-faggot Revolution you’re going to want based people joining the military
Otherwise you’re just going to end up like Richard Spencer’s retard rallies or January 6th’s zogbots
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>>56199501
Taxation is way less of a contribution than choosing to be an enforcer for those politicians.

I have no illusion there's going to be an anti-f-word revolution. The best rightoids can hope for now is that they successfully burn down, or accelerate the decline of, the system. That involves refusing to be the lackey of the politicians and refusing to enforce their international influence.
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>>56199089
He's splitting hairs; you don't need to be covid vaccinated before joining, you'd do it after joining..because getting off the bus as an e-1 means you have already joined. It seems like an overly technical hill to die on since the end result is the same, you end up neither vaccinated nor in the military.
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Daily reminder that the US navy is the only branch that issues you a fucking sword once you are a high enough rank as an enlisted man.

You did enlist in the Navy and not the army, right anon?
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>>56199577
>his branch lets chiefs wear whites
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>>56199651
It's winter time army cuck boy, we wear blues until summer rolls back around.
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>>56199577
Marines issue you a sword as soon as you hit E4.
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>>56199577
My sword is straight tho
>navy things
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>>56199577
I did
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>>56199544
Cope
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>>56199848
Cope with what?
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>>56199482
You're a fucking retard.
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What are airmen like IRL?

Are they like this? https://youtu.be/q6ihWLbPtPE?t=8

The answer is yes.
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>>56199780
The Marines are a part of the Navy. There is no Department of the Marine Corps.
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>Under 6 feet
>balding in his 20s
>voice never left the puberty stage

What creates so many of these "people"?
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>>56160532
Contact recruiters and come off as hyper-patriotic because it helps. IRL if you get in the smart move is serve 20 (time flies) then retire financially secure. Do not join the Army or Marines if your goal is a long career. Not enough career discussion happens on /k/ because it's mostly yungsters unable to plan the next few decades of their lives. Choose a technical specialty on very long-lived systems to facilitate a second career.

Also consider Merchant Marine. If you go back to serving coffee you fucked up. There are many ways to obtain delicious vested retirement including becoming a cop. Retirement is everything because the last half of your life (third if it's short) will be spent in old age and infirmity. Measure every career choice by money (fun is a nice luxury) and remember you are not your job.
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>>56163554
Navy has the best welding school and the most demanding welding tasks. Shipyard welders in civilian life are among the rare ones who make bank and have stable home lives.

>>56163753
Depends but that's an issue. You should know a felony restricts hiring severely because welders often work on government projects and the industry has enough thieves. I worked training welders in a CC workforce training program and even the talented felons just couldn't get hired.

The best job for felons is auto mechanic since small businesses either don't care or don't run background checks. Any good mechanic will have more work than they can do in a lifetime. Mechanics have much better "bottom of society" career options than welders but ya might get a gig running MIG in some fab shop. As a mechanic the limit is your own ambition (rebuild and sell used cars, start a used car lot etc). I've been in and around the trades since the late 1970s. This is not speculation.

Welding is awesome and goes with wrenching so learn to weld after you have a steady job. Autobody repair is another field where your background matters little on the low end.
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>>56166769
How many years until retirement? All that job shit falls away when you walk out the gate. Follow the money if smart. Nooks can become power house operators etc in their second career.
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>>56169105
If you meet your contracted obligation then Uncle got what he paid for. The system exploits the naive and there are many ways to serve.

If a troop does their job that's a miracle these days and someone has to keep things going between wars.
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>>56173854
It never happened.
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>>56174730
That's every war, shithead tourist.
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Ex navy nukes, what do you do now? I worked at a shipyard for awhile but hated it, looking for something else.
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>>56174730
Do you not understand logistics of modern warfare?
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>>56178409
Research Merchant Marine for a longer more profitable career. Nobody seems to know the US Merchant Marine exists. Ask on the gcaptain forums which are heavily moderated by experienced mariners.
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>>56200340
>Merchant Marine
Am I too old? I'm 33.
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>>56200108
>Do not join the Army or Marines if your goal is a long career. Not enough career discussion happens on /k/ because it's mostly yungsters unable to plan the next few decades of their lives.


Only a retarded Airfag would say this. The Army is fucking massive and is the easiest branch to do 20 years as long you can run 2 miles and walk 12 miles with a 35lb pack once a year. You can do 4 to 6 year active duty then switch to the national Guard as a full-time recruiter/AGR for the rest of your career. It's fucking cake.

Only complete pussies are afraid of the Army. You have no idea easy it is to milk ADOS/AGR as a guardsman/reservist.
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>>56180904
>If this is real then you shouldn't join the military with your intelligence.

One of my fondest NCO memories was telling my young Senior Airman the truth, that he was wasting his time as an Admin troop reloading workstations. He was super competent with Linux long before it was cool. He didn't re-up and went to work for Intel instead and retired very well off.

Not everyone belongs in the military and many better serve their nation outside it, like my HS bro who went on to MIT and worked on SIMNET. That dwarfed anything he'd have done in service and benefited every G.I. since.
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>>56163157
>>56164462
I've been falling behind on my workouts for a while now, still haven't met my 1/2/3/4 goals and still just barely run a 7:30 mile. Any suggestions on what specifically to focus on to improve performance up to SFAS standards? Is hopping on gear my only hope?
6'4 180lbs btw
>>56189578
>>56189476
Whats the probability that MHS Genesis gets shut down? Why did they even bring it about, if it was just gonna shoot down recruitment?
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>>56199780
DELETE THIS

also the marine corp sword is for "Ceremonial use" only. aka its a larp sword. Navy NCOs can take their sword into battle
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>>56183196
Yeah but you have plenty of time to do it. More concerning about making the supergrades (they were added long ago because AF didn't want enlisted scum as Warrant Officers) is those guys have no lives and at their level it's all work and no fun. I made MSgt early then spent the next years enjoyably vs. basically working twelves forever.
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>>56189476
Typical post-constabulary war letdown plus a booming economy means pragmatists follow the money.

The fix will be more money first as bonuses then perhaps military-wide pay boosts so wise career troops see that as a good thing. There are no military unions so Uncle either pays what the job market will bear or goes without.

>>56197828
A story as old as the Army itself. They used to have brigs and jails where abuse was rife. Military reform will only happen as a last resort and let's face it, the Army needs too many warm bodies to be professional. This happened before in the Hollow Force era (currently serving troops anywhere rarely study past US military social history and to be fair no one not into history wants to remember those days).

Eventually there will be another buildup like the glorious Reagan Era but it may be ten years from now.
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>>56199577
Marine Corps
Coast Guard
US Army Cavalry

and the Space Force sells light sabers at the exchange
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>>56200394
The Air Force is higheer QOL with fewer trailer trash. By all means milk it but if you want to compare Guard and Reserve units the AF has that dicked too.

It's not "fear" of the Army, it's wisdom to take the most advantageous gig. A Reserve loadmaster travels the world and banks their paycheck when activated. Many such cases.
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>>56200625
>The Air Force is higheer QOL

Nobody cares about that gay shit. Come out to the field with the real niggas
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>>56200816
Yeah I'm not about standing around outside in full kit for hours at a time for no reason. I don't think I can handle that real warrior mindset. Don't forget to show up for your commander's all call 15 minutes early for being 30 minutes early for being 2 hours early to maintain accountability.
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>>56200422
Alright, here's a good blueprint of physical standards for sfas.
First week, you need to run. After that you won't run, except in some bizarre punishments during team week. When I attended I had a 32 minute 5 mile and it put me in the upper quarter. I knew people who made it running as slow as a 1440 2 mile. You also need to ruck. A 2 hour 15 minute 12 mile with 35 lbs put me in the upper third. Idk how slow the slowest people who made it were. Ruck weight is about 75 lbs.
Distances are unknown so I use these metrics to help you get an idea of where you'd be. With a 730 2 mile you're in a bad place, but I was in a worse place when I enlisted and attended selection a little over a year later. You'll have time.
Be sure you can climb a rope and manipulate your body decently. People who never climbed trees as kids stand out and look like shit.
The pushup sit up pull up standards are just standards to meet. I've always been shit at push ups. Rucks and runs are what really matter.
Second week you walk many many miles with a ruck of the same weight. Not much too it athletically, just endure it.
Third week is where the squat deadlift and overhead press come in. It's basically like being a slave in the ancient world moving shit around for very long distances. I came in squatting like 205 and suffered for it, was definitely weak compared to others. Being light and skinny helped me run fast and rucking has always been my thing because I was once a wandering hobo piece of shit. But putting those things on your back with a low squat and deadlift is not fun.
In addition to all of this, be smart, work decently with people, and have a chin. These things correlate with selection. But I dunno what really goes on there. They assign numbers to everything and track it all but I have no clue how different things are weighted.
I've heard there's a week up front that's gay and stupid but not hard. I've heard there's no more situps.
Here to help glhf
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>>56202483
Lmao stfu you dumb grug brained fags
The israel slave branches are for Reddit
We are only based puddle pirates and space force chads here
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>>56202597
Ok.
Are you ok?
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I’m prior and looking to enlist into the Space Force or Air Force as a fusion intel analyst. I would have to go back to living in a barracks and this is after having spent 6 years in another branch as I approach 30. Is it worth starting over and going for the 20, or rather 14 more years and then getting out to be a contractor? Or should I stick it out in my branch doing a job I don’t have much of an interest in.
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>>56201764
>I don't think I can handle that real warrior mindset.


As long as you admit it.
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>>56202483
Alright, sick. I got questions about squats though. My form fucking sucks for low squats and even though I can get a little over 2pl8 down to parallel I can barely rep something like 150 a2g, still not sure if I have nonexistent ankle mobility or just weak glutes, maybe both, how fucked am I and should I focus entirely on building my a2g?
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>>56202812
Well from an sfas viewpoint, you're not gonna go atg at any point.
Basically, imagine an 80 pound ruck, and a 150 pound object. The object is lifted off the back of one person using a person on each side, and then you slide under it. Quarter squat up, and walk until you're in too much pain and need to be switched out. Alternatively deadlift something weighing a decent amount and farmers walk till you need a switch. But by lowering your pain, you increase the pain of others. The total amount of pain remains the same for the team, so any weakness of others hurts you and any of your weakness hurts others.
That makes it an ethical thing, not just a physical thing. You will hate people who are weak. It's not like RASP where they punish everybody for the weakness of one and yell at you. The punishment is within the activity, and Cadre are mostly silently watching and writing shit down.
From a general fitness viewpoint, ATG has the lowest strain on the knees and activates the most muscles. Start doing ankle mobility exercises, and squat light with 10lb plates under your heels pausing at the bottom. Then move on to 5s, then 2.5s
But remember you're talking to somebody who made it with under a 2pl8 squat. Biggest reccomendation for anybody here is to go. So many people get caught up in infinitely preparing and talking about going, thinking that they need to be some sort of super soldier, then life happens and diverts them, then they lose motivation. Your run will improve enough through basic ait and time at your unit, or osut at sfpc if you go that route.
Best thing to do is send it. Hundreds make it every year, why not you?
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>>56202680
>living in barracks at 30
If you can't get a spouse+ bah then hard no

I was sure time in service would accumulate cross-branch for retirement, i know it does for pay purposes
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>>56200816
>no one in the army wishes they had better QoL

Fresh cope just dropped FRFR
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>>56203560
>I was sure time in service would accumulate cross-branch for retirement, i know it does for pay purposes
Yes for both.

I would like to be married by then, however I have back to back years at isolation units so I burned a few years I should have spent looking for a wife. The only woman I had left me six months into dating and married a new guy in three months. Since then I haven’t bothered looking.
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>>56204278
lol
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>>56204278
I am sorry
My non-careermaxing advice would be to gtfo and back to society asap
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>>56204278
Volunteer at a women's shelter. You'll find someone there for sure.
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>>56204649
It’s whatever at this point. Female coworker of mine found him on tinder already and showed me in an attempt to make me feel better.

Just made the big sad worse.
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>>56159785
If I were born British, i'd kill meself,
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>>56200108
This speaks to me, a safe retirement with a family is what I'm in it for.
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>just signed my contract as a [spoiler]bubblehead paper pusher[/spoiler]
>less than two weeks until ship date
>only doing a single dep meeting and two pt days before going to RTC in december
>havent even memorized the 11 rules yet

Im going to die arent I
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>>56206346
Nobody knows the 11 rules you filthy fucking echo-1

Just know the hidden rule: To walk my plank from flank to flank and not take shit from any rank.
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>>56204742
>Female coworker of mine found him on tinder already and showed me in an attempt to make me feel better.

How would that make you feel better? Women are retarded I swear to God.
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>>56206398
Thanks anon
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AND THIS WE'LL DEFEND
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SUBMARINERS
post your best spooks
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Okay fuckers, night before patrol and I just had a fire on my ship (USCG) and ngl I am a little bit fucked up. I came here from the bar to pass out before going underway in the morning before smoke got reported in laundry just outside my berthing. So my drunk ass hopped in ODUs and flash gear with SCBA on back and dealt with that shit with the duty section. Fuck this job I am so ready to be done with it. I cannot get any off time as even if I am not on duty I am always on call. This boat needs to be decommed. Suck of fires breaking out
semper p
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>>56207207
Dang that sucks anon.
>fires breaking out
>fires plural
...how many have there been?
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>>56207207
Shouldve gone bang bang breh I’m off by noon work out drunk by 5 boutta eat 5 miles for brekky hungover off some px tweas. Godspeed boat guy
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how does the US military react to dropped domestic violence charges? got a false charge and i don't wanna fight it, im just done with life at this point.
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>>56167064
what country is this?
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>>56207416
Poland, but the cringe guy behind the camera is a shitskin from Canada who immigrated
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>>56208015
Looks White to me
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I've been considering joining the army over going to college but my dad is vehemently against it. He said only low IQ people join the army and that I should get my degree in Computer Science as initially planned. Apparently there's way more money in the private sector. What do?
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>>56209014
Neither
>t.prior navy with CS degree
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>>56208751
Blind then
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>>56209014
Enlist then go to college when you get out. Or go to college, do ROTC and commission into National Guard then make money as a computer AND be in the army at the same time.


Your options are not mutually exclusive, you can do both. At the same time even.
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>>56209421
New Thread
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>>56209425
You're still here?
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>>56207259
More than I am comfortable admitting. The fat momma’s boy gay black CS put grease rags in the dryer. Thats what started it and now I am mess cranking with him. He keeps saying how people are mean to him for starting a fire that according to him wasnt his fault because he wasnt here for it. Even though he beat feet as soon as he put grease rags in the dryer for some reason.

I am running on 5 hours of sleep and cant rack put tonight until 0130 tomorrow morning since I have to clean midrats. I want to fucking die.
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>>56209982
Cranking is hell.
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>>56200422
Rucking, strong lowerbody
Run more,
>gear
Im not the guy to ask, dude, if you can't survive without it now you won't survive without it when you're there, although it could be a training aid if you know what you're doing
I'd suggest staying natty and if you have a clear plan, use it to maximize your potential
I had a buddy use Cardaraine,not really a Sarm, but it's a fat burner and endurance booster that will literally make you run forever, and if you go off it and keep training at the same level, you'll maintain your Vo2 max with a slight decline. This guy dropped his 5 mile time down 8 minutes to 31minutes.
He didn't make it because of overuse injuries however, his muscles and joints didnt adspt (remember in halo how Master Cheif had to limit how much force his muscles exerted sp his body woudnt rip apart? Lol) and they were shot, and he was hobbling and limping before he was forced to be meddropped. So definitely train smart and cautiously.
In the past I ran sub 13 2miles, and a 33:40 five mile, and ofc it's fallen off slightly over the months, so I'm considering cycling cardarine now im attending new stuff in coming times.
Sure blast sarms but understand the implications of how it helps, and what will happen when you don't have it on you when you're there
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>>56210326
Where do you advise sourcing Cardarine?
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>>56209014
Don’t join if you have the option for college. The military is really just a job center for the fuck ups of life. If you absolutely have to be in the military afterwards then have a degree first.
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>>56198351
I’m signing up for 4 years of desk work so I can collect welfare checks, and get low interest loans to afford a house where I can raise white kids without needing to wage slave for 50 years or take on the debt jew
Every successful right wing revolution was backed by the military and/or veterans
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>>56210500
A Google search
You're researching with it



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