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Knife chads, I kneel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCu4G_ZkBI0
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>>54681482
did he in fact die?
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>>54681498

Probably, dude got stabbed in the back of the lower neck and both sides of his shoulders, he might as well be ded
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>>54681498
Yeah and after the trial so will his booty hole.
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>>54681482
You just know the shop owner is getting sued.
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Rooftop Asians 2022?
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>>54681498
no, the retarded bug insect went to reddit and did an AMA and posted he wasn't afraid or threatened and wanted to stab him

he also said he lived
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>>54681536

Lmao based psycho Asian
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>>54681482
AMA
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>>54681482
>willing to kill over material objects
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>>54681536
based yet tarded
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>>54681564
>willing to die over material objects
FTFY fuck around find out
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>>54681482
reddit 1 4chan 0
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>>54681564
>Not willing to kill over material objects
Cringe
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>I'm dead
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>>54681626
I'm dead.
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>>54681603
>no one on 4chan has ever killed anyone
reddit moment
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Does he have a gofundme?
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>>54681482
Holy shit. The way he just casually dragged him around the counter and then threw him down like a sack of potatoes made me laugh out loud.
>>54681536
link?
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>>54681482
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>>54681564
>willing to die over material objects
Their choice, my man.
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>>54681564
#bigcockAsians
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>>54681564
objects cost money, money requires labor, labor takes time, and my time is more valuable than a criminal's.
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>>54681563
>hey Reddit!
Based faggot. What are Vegas fun laws like? Don’t Asians go there to shoot guns? Would have thought there would be some involved. I guess retards stealing tip jars from a vape store aren’t really “high level” criminals though.
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>>54681800
>I guess retards stealing tip jars from a vape store aren’t really “high level” criminals though.
did you watch the video? they were retarded kids, they walked in with ski masks and the guy asked them what they wanted and they were like UHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>54681810
We'll they definitely won't be doing it again at least
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>>54681800
it was a joke, the pic is from reddit before he deleted everything
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This man is retarded for doing the reddit AMA but I also fucking love him
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>>54681564
Agreed, we should kill degenerate thieves for the joy and entertainment value of doing so.
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>im dead!
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>>54681837
>league makes men kill
Get jack Thompson on the line, STAT
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>>54681837
I take back everything I said about MOBAs... I kneel Riot-sama...
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Why didn't he just shoot them? Fucking autist. Ive shot a robber at a 7/11 once. Shit was cash.
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>>54681837
And people saying Lucas Botkin wouldn't be shit in a real firefight
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>>54681810
>runs into store wearing ski masks, obviously about to attempt a robbery
>”hey guys what can I get ya?”
>”uuuuuuhhhhhhh”
Why is this so funny to me
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>>54681837
>my experience playing league prepared me
by having him dissociate from society.
It’s so scary knowing the people we share this earth with. Not because of their potential to stab you, but because of the bullshit of their existence surrounding that singular moment.
At least this one time the ELO system seems to have worked properly.
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>>54681837
do u guys think 400 days /played in wow will make me good in a firefight
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>>54681564
They've already proven that they're okay breaking the law, how do you know they wouldn't kill you for some retarded reason?
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>>54681669
Can't have them bleeding on the merch
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>>54682092
Sure. Its all about manifesting that sigma zoned in gamer mindset and distancing yourself from the kneejerk human reactions like fear of death. Any man who has such a playtime in WoW must have little regard for his own well being.
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>>54681498
No the clerk luckily managed to employ successful self defense with a knife using the Varg Vikernes method and was able to survive the harrowing experience.
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HES STABBING ME! I'M DEAD!
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>>54682193
>….please~~~…
>*tossed towards doorway*
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>>54682087
>Yeah it’s so scary knowing you might be stabbed while in commission of a violent crime. It really worries me that a person might not surrender imediately to threats of violence on them.

Your either a woman or a massive fucking faggot. Your ancestors are ashamed.
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>>54682193
We're dead!
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i wish i wasnt incompetent so i could photoshop a joy emoji on the robber and put a "lmao im dead" caption under it
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>>54682234
PLEASE! I BEG YOU
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>>54682193
Some guy asked him about his knife on the reddit AMA and he said it was a "flip knife, like the one in cs go". Our man really went for the $1500 kill reward.
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>>54681669
the defeated sigh after dropping the carcass and realizing this just means he has to call the police and probably answer a bunch of questions and sign papers and other bullshit busy work resonated with my soul
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>>54681564
Yes. If you can’t even respect another man’s property, how can one expect you to respect a man’s life?
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are all asians this autistic? first it was that spartan117 gregory wong that tried to fall in with the national guard during floyd protests, now this guy does an ama after stabbing someone? why cant they just kill people and keep their mouths shut?
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>>54681482
Why the fuck do I keep seeing completely dumb robberies? Can I get a competent robber for once?
>go in with a plan
>don't rob a place that's guaranteed to have an armed employee (e.g. a gun store, a liquor store, a bank)
>don't rob a place that has no money (like this vape shop)
>NEVER go near the employee unless you know they're disarmed
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>>54682324
If they were smart they wouldn’t be robbing small time businesses. White collar crime is much more profitable much lower risk.
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when the Asian is sus
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>>54682324
well executed robberies are either done very quickly in secluded areas or are done in areas that have been cased out for cameras already

theft isn't exactly a field that attracts the best and brightest on top of this, you have to either be extremely desperate or a fucking retard with completely broken risk vs reward analysis
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>>54682321
Lack of father figure
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>>54682324
>don't rob a place that has no money (like this vape shop)
I was gonna say you're wrong about this because a vape shop is probably a cash business, but then I remembered it's not 2008 and there are no cash businesses anymore.
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>>54682324
>Why the fuck do I keep seeing completely dumb robberies?
Because robberies are completely dumb. It's the most retarded way to steal from someone, bar none. Buglary is where it's at if you're dead set on theft.
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can a burger explain if he would go to jail for defending his store like that? over here the courts require force to be proportional, im not knowledgeable about american self defense law
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>>54682324
Because smart robbers don't get caught. Obviously.
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>>54682055
then demands to give the quarters back from the tip jar so he can do his laundry
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>>54682410
it depends
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>>54682410
If he hadn't done the Reddit AMA, absolutely not. Nevada is a castle doctrine state. But the based retard went and publicly said he wasn't in fear for his life, which shits all over that defense.
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>>54682410
I personally hope they find something in his ama to give him a few months. Autistic zoomer gamer needs to learn how to keep his mouth shut.
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someone post the good parts of the ama i dont want to go on reddit
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>>54682447
ah based, even in leafland there was a shop owner who shot a burglar multiple times after he was sprayed with pepper spray, no charges. but going anywhere and saying you basically didnt have any concern that your life was at risk when you stabbed the guy in self defence would get you raped in court anywhere most likely
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>>54682433
defense is defense. 2 guys vs 1 could easily knock you out and stomp your skull.
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>>54682410
So it depends, it also depends on the state you are in. California/Jew York? You're almost certainly fucked. Any other state, if he would have tried to get him to leave first by maybe a shove or proportional action, THEN if the guy attacked him he could have fought back with deadly force if the guy was a threat to him. For example, he could say "I was in fear for my life he had a gun or would have went for a knife", you get much more leeway in the states using deadly force than in Europoor countries. What his mistake was was going after the guy with the knife immediately instead of trying to just push him away or meeting him head on, THEN using the knife. His other obvious mistake was saying he felt like the guy was no threat to him. THAT"S THE LAST THING YOU SHOULD SAY. In fact you should say NOTHING, and do absolutely nothing until you consult with your attorney. Provide police nothing except "I was in fear for my life, I would like to speak with an attorney". If they push further say "I respectfully would like to invoke my fifth amendment right to non self incrimination". To be honest if he would have used a firearm instead of a knife it would probably look better because of the guy jumping the counter could be perceived as a deadly threat especially given the masks and the other guy being a 2v1.

Also if it came to a jury trial (which it wouldn't have if he would have just shut up) they would probably be a hung jury.

>t. lawyer
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>>54681482
why I reply to the wrong thread?

>I'm dead.
>I'm dead.
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>>54682470
>defense is defense
tell that to the prosecutor, not me
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>>54681603
>They even when to UIkraine.
4chan: 0
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>>54681800
Good enough that you can buy a gun after stabbing someone, his AMA said he just bought a gun
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>>54682485
Im not very keen on dying for some corrupt Jew.
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>>54682481
no he knows im american and dont have to let random retards rob me
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>>54682324
You can have a perfect plan and then still totally fuck it all up because you were to retarded to keep your mouth shut. People who do armed robberies are mouth breathing retards who don’t realize there’s way safer, more profitable and less work intensive ways to steal money.

https://youtu.be/hos5Sgs7Gi0
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>>54681482
Wait. At 0:37 there's a third kid who takes off running as well. They don't seem smart enough to use a look out or have the guy waiting to ambush a pursuing shopkeep. Maybe just pussied out?
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>>54682471
This law anon nailed it. That kid should've shut up and let it ride until the trial.
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>>54682471
how much money do laywers make
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>>54682433
>defense
>He's asian, short posture, tiny dick energy
>two large KKK skinhead Neonazi, trying to rob him

I think he'll win
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>>54682524
This, honestly. Make it look like a hate crime and he'll walk.
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>>54682500
Again, bring this up to the prosecutor and see if you have a case, hint: you don't
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>>54682410
Jewish lawyers
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>>54682524
>>54682531
Would be a very good defense argument as well, Jury would eat it up, especially after the years of "Peaceful but fiery protests". Law is also about determining public opinion during the current time period.
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>>54682551
>Law is also about determining public opinion during the current time period.
What a joke of a judicial system then if emotions override conscience.
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>>54682520
too much
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>>54682558
That's literally every justice system since the dawn of civilization
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>>54682534
the prosecutor is also american. im sorry you have to just let dudes rob you in your country
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>>54682531
based, get out of jail free card for shanking someone, unless that someone is a ghetto monkey.
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>>54681482
>HE STABBED ME
>I'M DEADDDDDD FUCKKKK
lmao this guy is providing commentary on his own death
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>>54681563
So which way do I look at this
>le reddit normalfagging for epic updoots
Or
>"Yes, redditfags, I stabbed the nigger. Watcha gonna do about it?"
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>>54682275
YOU'RE A GENUINE DICKSUCKER
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"ET TU, CHINKUS?"
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>>54682590
>i have to tell my internet friends about this immediately, potentially ruining my legal defense
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>>54682590
>>54682606
Tbh Asians, though booksmart, are some of the least street savvy people.
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>>54682613
You shouldn't generalize an entire race based on a single American Asian, the scum of the Asian people. The soulless chinks are more street savvy than your average innocent white American.
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>>54682606
That means he can do a TIFU post as well, doubling his karma.
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>I'm dead
I'm dead
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>>54682505
>People who do armed robberies are mouth breathing retards who don’t realize there’s way safer, more profitable and less work intensive ways to steal money.
Pretty much. I used to work in retail banking and while none of my branches were ever robbed, there were a few robberies in my area during that time. Both were picked up by the cops later that day; one was caught just wandering around the local suburbs and one was caught literally waiting at the nearest bus stop. Neither would have gotten away with more than a couple of grand.
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>>54682613
>street savvy.
As an Asian, we are doing plenty of "street savvy" things,
like bribing officials, gambling, prostitution, counterfeit stuff, buying stolen stuff, human smuggling etc etc

we just do thing more low key then the others.
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>>54682656
where can i find a prostitute
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>>54682665
Nevada probably
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>>54681482
If you try to hold up a vape shop to steal vapes, you fucking deserve to die like the retard you are.
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>>54681498
Nah he lived.
Probably gonna have some permanent nerve damage though.
Also according to wikipedia, it's legal to defend property in Nevada. So he might actually get away with it.
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>>54682665
The sex is not worth it. Just masturbate if you need to.
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>>54682499

Well don't join the Russian side then?
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>>54681649
Well no one did a justified homicide.
An incel mass shooting doesn't count as based.
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>>54681603
>he doesn't know about the gonkpill
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>>54682665
>Pros
lol, where ya at?
I'm from this place, we used to have Prostitutes coming from all the way from China.
And since they are rare, they charge premium prices.
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>>54682681
I'm not very keen on dying for some corrupt Jew.
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>>54682684
>no one did a justified homicide
and a retarded newfag such as yourself is sure of this, how?
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>>54682507
Apparently they were white. They probably watched too much social media where people stole shit and just walked out without much confrontation. Or at most, a struggle for the good.
The thought that they could be actually harmed probably never crossed their minds.
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>>54682193
>ext. Zoomer
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>>54682672
>For the purpose of assaulting or offering personal violence to any person dwelling or being therein
That's the only key thing that could be argued their purpose was not to cause personal violence but to merely take the money/goods
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>>54682712
theres like 6 ORs before that, stfu
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>>54682712
You missed a couple of "or"-s. I would bet that what the guy was trying to do, or could be reasonably believed to be attempting, is a felony which is enough.
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>>54681536
I now have head canon where Brother Gonk is his best man at his wedding.
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>>54681482
Didnt even kill the perp
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>>54681564
I would too. I work long hours, my wife and kids depend on that money for their gifts, food, basic supplies, school lunches. My mom and brother that I help also depend on that money to help pay the house that I got for them. If you steal my money or the things that I buy, you're not only making my life harder, you're screwing over everyone that relies on me. And that means you're one dead faggot.
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>>54681482
ah shit, that shouldn't have given me a boner. I blame Anonymous for making me this way.
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>>54682810
The kid is probably going to live the rest of his life feeling the consequences of his actions today.
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>>54681837
Absolutely based. I wish him well in life and pray he doesn't get retarded blowback from this.
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>>54682810
>>54682831
Would have unironically been easier if he just shot him dead with no video footage
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>>54682410
Normally he'd probably be fine but if he actually admitted to not fearing for his life he's at the mercy of the DA deciding whether charging him or not would be more politically advantageous.
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>>54682831
Why "kneel to knife chads" when he stabbed a retarded teenager 7 times and didnt even kill him? Thats my point. Kneel to what? The gook having a soft target for his stabbing skills?
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>>54682918
I dunno. I'm not OP.
But he sufficiently fucked that kid up though.
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>>54682824
this
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>>54682896
he didnt fear for his life due to knowing he had a knife and then using the knife to stab the guy.

had he not stabbed the guy, then he would have feared for his life
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>>54682471
Fuck off, Reeves.
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>>54682918

Just cause you shoot someone doesn’t mean they’re going to die. The robber took some brutal knife wounds, I honestly rather he shot by a 9mm then get stabbed like 7 times in the back/neck then the waist.
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>>54681515
Just because you have homoerotic prison rape fantasies does not make them real. Rape has been down since the peak in the 70s and this guy will join the Others and be fine as long as he picks a Other bunkie.
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>>54683021
That would make a poor defence. Try convincing a jury that its okay to shoot a nigger for walking into your yard claiming that he might try to break in. You'd get convicted.
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>>54683021
>>54683204
>Try convincing a jury that its okay to shoot a nigger for walking into your yard claiming that he might try to break in.
A nigger with a ski-mask.
And two accomplices.
Also in this analogy you'd have to be in the yard as the nigger hops the fence. You'd also have to have your back up against a wall as the nigger(s) approach you.
You'd also have to engage verbally with the nigger(s) before shooting them.

Yee I'm pretty sure it's self defense, nigger.
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>>54683245
They were already getting ready to leave when they took the coins but the retard called them back to tell them to take the cash too. Man has been waiting for this day to stab some robbers.
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>>54681522
Everyone gets sued, the trick is not to successfully get sued so you counter sue their ass for more.
Lawyer up son.
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Anyone here have a pic of the robber face?
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>>54681649
...look up the 4chan killer.
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>>54681669
Probably played hitman
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>>54683254
My friend, three bumbling fucking idiots wearing balaclavas came in to rob the fucking place, shut the fuck up with your "oh they were just leaving" bullshit, the man who was stabbed willingly entered into someone's place of business with the intent to commit a felony.
In Nevada it's legal to stop someone in the commission of a felony with lethal force, and it's also legal to defend yourself and defend your property, so go fuck yourself you cunt.
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>>54682410
Idk he dragged the kid over and just started stabbing him, then bragged about it on Reddit like the psycho gamer he is.
None of the vape theives were committing a felony or an eminent threat, which makes it hard to argue castle doctrine.
He should be in at least some trouble but who knows what will happen.
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>>54683278
Which one?
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>>54683133
why?
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>>54683289
>Idk he dragged the kid over and just started stabbing him
Are you high? That's literally the opposite of what happened chronologically, the perp jumped the counter, got stabbed, turned his back, got stabbed some more, got put into a head lock and then got dragged to the front of the store
It's very obvious that the defender stopped stabbing the perp when the perp went limp and stopped being an imminent danger, regardless of whatever the fuck he said on Reddit
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>>54683287
Yeah sure. Defend the retard redditor who incriminated himself. Hes going to jail and theres nothing you and your tranny friends can do about it.
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>>54683287
Uh change isn't enough to be a felony. It normally needs to be at least be $50. Bet the guy who stabbed them will see charges.
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>>54683254
no, the tip jar had both cash and coins, he just wanted the coins back.

dude hopped the counter and thats "just leaving" to you? retard
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>>54683335
Tip jar and vape box stolen by criminal number one, guy who got stabbed was in the process of grabbing bunch of vape boxes, guarantee those vape carts are at least 30 dollars a box
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>>54683289
Burglary of a Business is a Class C felony in Nevada you fucking nigger.
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>>54682520
However much a soul costs I would assume
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I don't know the laws where this happened but generally the standard fr use of deadly force is reasonable expectation of serious bodily injury or death. Not sure that jumping the counter to grab vape pens qualifies. If he was trying to steal guns or explosives, it might be justified.

Not that I feel for the thieves, but personally I'd beat a thief before I pulled a gun or a knife on them. These guys weren't robbers, they were simple thieves. Not much better morally, but certainly in a different class morally and legally. Much in the same way a pickpocket is different from a mugger.
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>>54683337
They were leaving until he stupidly opened his fat mouth. As if that wasnt enough, he went home and attention whored. Man is a retard and anyone who tries to defend retards are also retarded.
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>>54681564
u r gay
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>>54683335
Robbery is an automatic felony in NV. The assailant used force to unlawfully obtain possession of property in the presence of the store attendant, that's textbook robbery.
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>>54683321

Anon that last two stabs were after he prevented the robber from retreating and pulled him back to sink a knife in his back.

I understand and agree with the shop owner, but that shit is going to look AWFUL in court when the prosecutor replays that part over and over. Ignoring the incriminating AMA, he re-escalated a situation when there attacker tried to retreat.
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>>54683390
can u get a felony if ur under 18
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>>54683402
If you get charged as an adult then yeah
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>>54681564
Thats literally what not only man, but animals in general have done since before time you fucking imbecile. You ever see two bears go at it over a salmon? Same thing. Fuck with my shit and youre gonna get fucjed up.
Simple as.
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>>54681563
Y U GET A- IN AP ENGRISH
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>>54682447
In my state castle doctrine applies to all forcible felonies, no need for fear of loss of life or limb. And that’s minnesota, I’d imagine nevada is at least as permissible
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>>54683402
It's a felony whether or not he ends up being charged as a minor. The shop owner had no means of identifying the age of the assailant so it wouldn't be a factor in a trial.
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>>54682410
In US you can't use deadly force purely to defend property, only if there is some risk of harm to your person. This does not have to be much at all, a simple verbal threat by the robber will suffice. What's important to consider is that in many (most?) states you are allowed to use non-lethal means to physically defend your property and if in the process of doing that you find yourself in fear for your life THEN you can resort to deadly force. So if you were Stabby-chan here you could grab the kid by the arm, and then when he said "Imma kill you fucking chink!" then you could go dark souls on his ass because your life was now threatened.

HOWEVER, since he specifically stated that he wasn't threatened then he may be very well be fucked. Doesn't really upset me because a) he really just seemed super excited to keep stabbing a guy who he obviously overpowered b) he's a fucking redditor
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>>54682092
>do u guys think 400 days /played in wow will make me good in a firefight
No.
Because At that point it's not a "fighf" - it would be an execution.
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>>54683352
>>54683390
At most they were committing theft. I'm not sure what the requirement and classification of theft is in Nevada, but robbery requires use or threat of violence which they didn't do.

This is a perfect example of why it's important to not just carry a gun, but have basic martial arts skills or at least pepper spray. The guy probably won't go to jail since he didn't kill the guy and the police have better things to worry about, but he was 100% in the wrong for using lethal force on someone who wasn't a physical threat to his person.

Say it with me
>Would a reasonable person believe they're at risk of death or grave bodily harm
Really the only argument this guy has is there were two of them, however the only one behind the counter was grabbing shit and not going after him and they already tried to run once and he called them back.
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>>54683450
u could tell he was a tiny boy though in the video
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>>54683468
but i learned to handle stress and situational awareness and fast thinking from raiding and arenas and stuff
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>>54683466
I looked this up earlier but someone posted it on another thread so I just copied it here.

The relevant language is that "crime of violence" is "any felony for which there is substantial risk that force or violence may be used against the person" which, in this context, would be robbery.

After the assailant vaulted the counter he was fair game, it doesn't matter if jackie chan had no fear whatsoever of being assaulted.
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>>54683278
Ive been here too long, it doesnt even bother me anymore.
Also kinda sucks that I can kinda see what people mean when they say I look like a serial killer :( I think the look is mainy one of horror and dread folded into numbness.
I know I cant go back from this state of mind so Im not even gonna ask if its possible.
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>>54683498
Why don't you go back to his ama thread instead of shitposting here?
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>>54682471
California actually has really permissive self defense laws, there’s a lot of strong case law, especially regarding stand your ground and even pursuing retreating attackers leading to deadly force.

I’ve yet to see any actual proportional force laws, I know people think they exist, I know self defense instructors love to bring them up, I’ve never actually seen one, no statute, no case law. You either can use deadly force or you can’t, there is no continuum of force enshrined in any law as far as I am aware. And the number of situations in which you could legally use force but not legally use deadly is pretty much limited to light shoving matches and forcibly removing simple trespassers.

If castle doctrine extends to a place of business in nevada then he doesn’t need a fear element, just that a forcible felony be committed in his castle
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>>54681522
failing to provide a safe working environment for burglars
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>>54682092
He was talking about dota2. wow won't make you an operator.
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>>54683469
In NV, robbery requires use of FORCE. Grabbing the coin jar off the counter was use of force. Vaulting over the counter was use of force. It doesn't matter if the force was slight or injurious, it merely had to be present.
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>>54682087
>by having him dissociate from society.
Thats how all the stone cold killers are made though?
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>>54682193
I CANT BREATH
>continues to loudly complain
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>white boy su-ACK
Holy shit kek
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>>54683390
By Nevada statute:
>Robbery is the unlawful taking of personal property from the person of another, or in the person’s presence, against his or her will, by means of force or violence or fear of injury, immediate or future, to his or her person, or the person of a member of his or her family, or of anyone in his or her company at the time of the robbery.

Jumping the counter and snatching vape cartridges would be larceny, not robbery, unless he verbally or physically threatened the owner. It's a misdemeanor unless that box of vape cartridges was worth $1200
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>>54683524
>Grabbing the coin jar off the counter was use of force. Vaulting over the counter was use of force
Poor bait. I will eat my bar card if grabbing a jar of coins is a use of force that justifies lethal retaliation.
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>>54683508
I have not visited his AMA, or been to reddit in some time. It was posted here
>>54683071
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>>54682234
>OUTTA MY WAY SON!
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>>54683534
white boy summer was last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owK-2zmVhd8
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>>54683524
>grabbing something is use of force
Sorry, but you should never voice legal opinions again. Force means in legal speak essentially means physical violence. Normal force would be like pushing, punching, grabbing THE PERSON, etc.
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>>54683469
>At most they were committing theft. I'm not sure what the requirement and classification of theft is in Nevada, but robbery requires use or threat of violence which they didn't do.
Robbery merely requires what a reasonable person would perceive as threat of violence or force.
2 men wearing balaclavas is already reason for "perceived threat", one of them jumping the counter and forcefully starting to grab stuff right next to the guy definitely puts it into a "crime of violence".
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>>54683547
Snatching property away is quite literally a textbook example of the use of force. Force in general does not have to be applied to a person. Hence the term "forced entry," etc.
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>>54683466
Wrong in your first line, first off we don’t have national laws in that manner, second in many states you can kill just to defend property, in fact a lot of them you can, there mere act of carrying out a burglary in someone’s presence will get you legally shot. Hell in Texas that extends to your neighbors property as well but only if it’s night or something weird like that.

If you want some links just google the state laws, they aren’t hard to find and it’s a good exercise
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>>54683547
No, because Nevada law defines "force" different then actual violence.
Any crime that "could reasonably be suspected to result in bodily harm or death" is a "crime of violence"
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>>54681564
What did you think war was?
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>>54683559
Yeah and they never threated any force against him personally
>>54683565
forced entry is a term of art that's not the same thing as just the term "force". Taking something off a shelf isn't taking something by force. Taking something by force would be threatening with a weapon, hence the distinction between robbery and theft/shoplifting/burglary.
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>>54683588
Well I'm still right because they didn't do anything that could result in his bodily harm or death.
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>>54683565
It’s called strong armed robbery in a lot of places. In my state entering an occupied structure and taking from an individual present is considered inherently “forcible”.

Let’s look at it another way, would a law require someone to physically try to stop a robber before a robbery would be considered forceful? Would laws be setup in that manner? To reward criminal behavior based on the timidity of the victim? That as long as you rob cowards you can never have deadly force used against you but the second he stands in your way you get shot?
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>>54683599
>Taking something off a shelf isn't taking something by force.
Cite your source in relevant legislation.
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>>54683607
>"could reasonably be suspected to result in bodily harm or death"
>suspected
Retard.
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>>54683599
A guy in a ski mask vaults over a counter and you want to call that larceny? Give me a fucking break. If there was more than $1200 of product behind the counter it would still be grand larceny anyway whether or not he got his mits on it.
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>>54683607
>well I'm still right becau-
No you aren't
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Too many redditors these days. I sincerely hope he gets jail time just so you autistic zoomers get BTFO
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According to IG stories of his pals he’s going to be paralyzed from the neck down…fuck that just shoot me senpai
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>>54683304

Apparently dudes a vegetable now
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>plz leave
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why not just grab the guy?
it would make it easier for everyone
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>>54681564
who are these retards that come on a self-defense board and cry about people defending themselves
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There are people mad at the clerk for stabbing the robbers lmao.
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From his tiktok. He's been robbed several times before.
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>>54683864
There is his motive. It is murder
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>>54683888
Time will count from the date, when the asian shopkeeper began to hate.
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>>54681482
>>54681563
Legally this was okay, but this dude clearly has some antisocial tendencies.
Those were well placed stabs delivered without fear and going on a forum to brag about this shortly is a sign of a lack of normal emotions.
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>>54681482
what model of knife was he using?
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Holy shit what a specimen
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>>54683929
are you a woman? that's how men are supposed to be. the guy is a warrior.
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>>54683923
Lol
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>>54681564
gimme all your shit then faggot
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>>54683399
>>54683399
>Anon that last two stabs were after he prevented the robber from retreating and pulled him back to sink a knife in his back.
irrelevant, it happened in a matter of seconds, he was just punched a second ago, all that matters is that he stopped stabbing when the robber fell
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>>54681482
this guy is so fucked in court. Gonna make an example of him for not letting criminals run rampant
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>>54683864
>party rock is in da house tonight
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>>54683469
>Say it with me
>>Would a reasonable person believe they're at risk of death or grave bodily harm
you baiting faggot

yes I would

a robber just jumped over the counter, i dont know if he's going to steal shit off the wall and leave, or threaten me further, in what cucked fantasy world of yours do people think they're not in fear of grave bodily harm or death?
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>>54683936
old master japanese tanto, 1000 times folded steel
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Someone finally showed them f*cking zoomers that being a criminal IS NOT AS COOL as rappers and netflix make it out to be.
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>>54681482
that's brave, but the next time they will come with glocks to him.
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>>54683929
Is he suppose to cry about how he had stab a burglar?
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>>54683864
man, american is a literal hellhole
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>>54681482
Gamer moment:
>the calm league player
vs
>the noob announcing his untimely death to the team
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>>54684455
>team backs off
>he jumps in randomly
>dies
clearly a riven main
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>I'M DEAD
>No shit
>Drags him out of the store
Absolute brutality
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>>54684534
You can just hear his soul leaving his body on the last "I'm dead".
Apparently the kids still alive, but is paralyzed. Fate worse than death imo
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>>54681482
burgers killing themselves over couple of bucks or shitty vape oil.
euroasia, we won.
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>>54682187
Imagine letting yourself get killed by a communist faggot who jerks off to corpses because you're afraid of using a knife.
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>>54683204
>>54683254
>that nigger in your house with a skii mask who jumped over your kitchen counter at you totally wasn't gonna do anything
lmao
Also this kid didn't admit to "stabbing for fun" he said he kept cool under pressure" that's it, never once said "tee hee thiefs get grief!" or anything like that.
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>>54682187
>>54684706
if Varg started stabbing me I'd just start stabbing Varg back
ez
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>>54684365
You dumb nigger I AGREE with you. All Im saying is that it looks terrible in court to stab someone in the back on camera.

I fucking HATE late night /k/, you dumb motherfuckers dont even speak english and constantly misread posts.
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>>54683469
>Say it with me
>>Would a reasonable person believe they're at risk of death or grave bodily harm
yes you stupid nigger lmao where do you redditors come from.
>>54683536
>Jumping the counter and snatching vape cartridges would be larceny, not robbery, unless he verbally or physically threatened the owner.
skii mask + another assailant + invading her personal space after being warned absolutely constitutes a threat. What kinda retard sees a criminal in a skii mask hop the counter towards them and thinks
>"this is a reasonable action and this person surely means me no harm in any discernible way!"
>It's a misdemeanor unless that box of vape cartridges was worth $1200
this isn't some kid robbing shelves on teh side, he was threatening, but stealing vape filters and carts easily can adds up to that amount depending on what he grabbed and if his theft amount combines with his friend's which it should.
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>>54683539
>Poor bait. I will eat my bar card if grabbing a jar of coins is a use of force that justifies lethal retaliation.
>jumping over the abr counter towards teh bartender, and grabbing the alcohol next to him while masked isn't a use of force
LMAO, you deserve some of these non forceful entries to happen to you.
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>>54681482
Why did this retard go on reddit to do an ama? He had some small chance to avoid prison if not for that...
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>>54682684
>justified homicid
This dude is going to jail lmao
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>>54681564
>willing to kill over material objects
absolutely
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>>54683929
>Those were well placed stabs delivered without fear
garbage take, he doesn't even know which way to hold the fucking knife
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>guns for show, knives for a pro
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>>54684806
I don't know man, it's not like I'm some spetsnaz knife instructor, but from what I understand a reverse grip gives you the most power at cost of being able to slash and a shorter range, neither of which was at all relevant in the range he was engaged at
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>>54681482
seriously
how hard is it to just not rob a store?
what's wrong with people
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>>54683204
>defence
sorry you have no right to self defense in your shithole country.
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>>54684844
Not him, but from my meager training in kobudo and a bit of escrima I would say the only really competents stab was the one to the thigh. Most of his stabs were just michael myers style brainless stabs around the upper left shoulder. I have seen people fellate that last stab from behind as him getting to his spine and paralyzing him, and while it is hard to say from the angle, it looks more like a hit to the trapezoid. Also to robber kinda slowly succumbs to the ground with a defeatist "i'm dead" instead of going instantly limp, so that to me indicates that he was not actually paralyzed but merely went into the submissive freezing reaction to escape harm.
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>>54684888
I agree. if you've ever killed an animal with a knife like a boar or ram, you'd be surprised by how hard it is to sink a knife through flesh and muscle. Upper back region probably the most difficult place to get through. Looks like the kid chose flight and accepted he was going to die. Don't think he's paralyzed, definitely will have some muscle/nerve damage in that region permanently
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>>54684649
>he said as the chinese man next to him sank his teeth into his calve once again, the other chinese pedestrians acting as if this was totally normal.
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>>54684888
https://youtu.be/7VOYusr7EcA
Here is a video that nicely shows how the body truly goes absolutely limp when the connection to the brain is lost, no slow succumbing just hl2 style ragdoll. Although in the stabbing the clerk has him bent over the counter and is supporting him wish his left hand, so it is very hard to tell definitely. What I can say is the robber takes his right hand off the counter and places it on clerks left hand to support himself after the final stab, so he atleast had control over that limb.
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>>54684936
I hear in american western movies the deaths are overly dramatized is because the realistic dropping like a potato sack deaths triggered veterans PTSD
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>>54682551
I can tell you right now that leftist sjws dgaf about Asians. Some anon posted an archive of the now deleted ama and all the redditors were going on about how he should go to jail. While they won't openly acknowledge it, liberals not only expect, but demand that Asians be passive doormats, especially for criminals. If you want more evidence look up some TV news from the Rodney King riots that covered the Roof Koreans. Every white Democrat newscaster was clothing their pearls over Koreans having the temerity to use guns to defend their businesses.
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>>54684909
The kid chose freeze. The 3 basic reactions in psychology are flight, fight and freeze, but most people only know the first 2 because of pop culture. The freezing reaction is actually most common and it happens in situations where flight is not possible but fighting will only worsen the problem. It is your body deciding that the best course of action is no action and to just go full submissive until the problem goes away.
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>>54681564
hello tankoid
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>>54681482
what knife did he use it kinda looks like a spyderco but idk

I need to buy this knife for larping.
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>>54685072

He said on his ama “a knife like on csgo” and that it’s about a 3 inche blade

I assume that’s a game?
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>>54685112
imma be real sounds like a redditor or faggot kike made a fake acct claiming to be him to try and get charges pressed against him
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>>54685121
Yeah no it was him. He sent a timestamped selfie to the mod team to verify the AMA
>>54685112
I understand that not everyone plays videogames but surely you have heard of counter-strike?
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>>54683950
Citation needed
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>>54684757
I dunno, I feel like if you would go on reddit to boast society is probs better off with you behind bars
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>>54683929
This. Doing a fucking AMA on reddit could even be counter-productive for his case.
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>>54683599
People in here are so fucking dumb, I can’t believe they're arguing with you on this point
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>>54681564
>Willing to die over material objects
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>>54681564
>being worth less than material objects
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This guy is fucked by the way.
He fucked up almost every one of the 5 elements of self-defense.
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>>54683929
>legally this was okay
If a DA brings an indictment then a jury will convict easily.
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>>54683929
Shut the fuck up, low testosterone faggot. He did the right thing and gave the criminal what he deserved.
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Emptying a mag into a nigger looks better to jury than stabbing one multiple times
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>>54684776
no he isnt. Clear self-defence, plus the criminal didn't even die.
>b-b-but he posted on leddit
Doesnt matter in the slightest
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>>54684776
Really? Because evidence and state laws imply the opposite.
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The main issues for this guy is there was no obvious deadly force threat he was responding to, which means the store owner is the initial deadly force aggressor independent of what happened before. This loses him innocence.
The store owner ran towards the thief, while the store owner has no duty to retreat, you are an aggressor if you are chasing someone who is now running from you.
The force used(deadly) was not proportionate to the non-deadly force that hadn't even been presented yet.
The thiefs were not an imminent deadly force threat. To use self-defense it really does need to be "him or me"
The perception that the thieves were an imminent deadly force threat was not reasonable. A jury won't agree with the interpretation that jumping over a counter is tantamount to a deadly force threat. There are no audible threats by the robbers.

I think I also heard the thief lived, that fucking sucks and offers him a chance to procreate. I don't necessarily agree with all elements of defense law, but I also would hope that no one here is misled and goes to prison for fucking up like this guy. Be safe out there /k/
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>>54685586
I think a lot of it is really just the ski masks. People saw that and have seen so many videos of niggers doing armed robberies with ski masks they just automatically assumed it was an armed robbery and then double downed after that.

Again, I think this is a great example of why you want to have non lethal options like basic martial arts or pepper spray. If he shoved him back over when he was jumping over the counter or punched him in the face while he was grabbing the box there would probably be zero question in regards to legality and he likely would've had the same outcome.
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>>54681482
>7 stabs, one probably in the spinal cord
>still lives
knifecucks ngmi
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>>54681482
Why is this shit so funny to me
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>>54686230
This might be one area where I think the law needs to permit brandishing(it's not when dealing with deadly force).
The moment the thief jumps the counter, the clerk should be permitted to brandish and make his intent to defend himself clear. The most likely outcome is the dipshit robbers leave and no one gets hurt, if a robber continues in light of that then it's basically consent to a deadly force confrontation.

The above is not allowed and no one should try this, it really does need to be a deadly force threat either verbalized or presented in order for you to be justified.
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>>54686307
*when dealing with non-deadly force
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>>54686078
>The perception that the thieves were an imminent deadly force threat was not reasonable. A jury won't agree with the interpretation that jumping over a counter is tantamount to a deadly force threat. There are no audible threats by the robbers.
I don't agree with this. In the context of a robbery, it is not unreasonable at all to assume that the assailants jumping over the counter are going to gravely harm me/kill me for the purposes of having me become a non-factor in their robbery. I believe a jury would find no fault there if that were a standalone issue.
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>>54686239
Lmao and how many times have we seen 7, 8, 9, 10 shots landed of 9mm and the perp still alive? Neck yourself faggot.
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>>54686339
Your turn to show me a video where that happens. OP gave me mine.
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>>54682324
robbers that could be called competent do stuff like high-speed smash and grabs in jewellery stores where they are in and out in a literal minute
although they weren't well executed there were many successful sags at luxury brand stores in america during 2020-2021
before the pandemic central europe was suffering from a sag spree targeting jewellery stores and it was kind of a big deal, nobody ended up getting caught or identified iirc
from a short search there also was a successful, armed armored car robbery at a southern california casino two days ago
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>>54682087
troon hands wrote this post
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>>54686078
Proportional force is an EU thing. He lives in Nevada, has Castle doctrine laws, which permits the use of deadly force to defend property. So it's quite clear cut. Even if he lived somewhere like New York, its very unlikely he would be punished severely because
A) At best, he could be charged with attempted (victim didn't die) manslaughter, which has a maximum prison sentence of about ten years, depending on state
B) It is mitigated by how they are committing a crime and how he could feel threatened by both being outnumbered and them having hidden weapons
C) He gave them multiple chances to leave before one crossed the counter, which shows restraint and complicates the case that it was manslaughter

At worst, he's looking a mild sentence for using excessive but justified force.
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>>54686474
Castle Law is one of the most misunderstood concepts I swear. Remember that most of what governs self-defense is Case Law, not stautory law
It's not justified, this guy really is fucked. You are not permitted to defend property using deadly force in any state except Texas, and even that is limited and hasn't been tested in court for a long while.
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>>54682665
Message parlors or resturant that become nightclubs after 9PM
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>>54686474
Also, proportionality is one of the 5 main factors in any self-defense claim and only one of the 5 needs to be wrong to defeat the claim.
This guy is toast.
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>>54682810
It was a box cutter right? Not saying a half inch of sharp steel can't be enough but instead of slashes he was stabbing him a bunch and perp was wearing lots of clothes.

If store owner was armed with a normal knife, I think the antifa type would'nt be saying "I'm Dead" and instead be screaming until his punctured lungs silenced him.
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>>54682583
Litteral NPC Dialogue
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>>54681564
A story as old as time, deal with it you anti american piece of shit, fucking communist. The right to personal property and to be protected against illegal search and seizure is a great thing about the states
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>>54682022
Did you not read the previous posts above you dipshit? Dude didn't have a gun, he just bought one after the incident. Fucking dumbass.
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>>54686600
He won't have that firearm very long, better gift it to a family member.
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>>54682087
This person wants to give hormone blockers to kids and give everyone dissociative depression meds though, that is fine but a video game baka that causes violence.
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>>54681482
while this guy is based, hes going to get fucked in court. not sure what state this is, but I dont think this was self defense.
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>>54682087
you lefty pol faggots are the worst, if you do stupid shit like jump a counter and steal someone elses property so brazenly, expect to get fucked up bad. problem is joggers dont have good parents to teach them this because their parents do this shit too
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>>54682485
>he doesn’t know about reddit killing a shitload of their own
lol
lmao
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>54682228
>illiterate retard pretending to be an illiterate retard
You’re not just a faggot, but a board spamming janny loving tranny as well.
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>>54682324
That's my thing....don't ever jump that counter.
The employee has fucking nowhere to go except through you & has spent 40 hrs a week for the last 2 years thinking about what they would grab where if someone were to pen them in.
Goes quadruple for kitchen workers.
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>>54682684
You fucking stupid imbecile redditor, we often have self defense story threads. There are kommandos with women who have killed. Not to mention some of the crazy shit the guys have used to end an armed break in. Go back to your reddit safe space where anyone who calls you a groomer gets banned you dumbass.
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>>54686661
Jumping a counter is not a deadly force threat.
While it's not lawful (currently), I outlined what should be an allowable response to this situation. >>54686307
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>>54686494
In that sense every case is decided by case law, but what is usually meant and means here is the case is not so unique or the circumstances different from the statutory laws intended that statutory laws are not relevant.

Nevada does have strong castle doctrine laws. NRS 200.120 spells out that it is permitted to commit "justifiable homicide" against someone who enters an "occupied habitation or person" in a "tumultuous" way for "a crime of violence". He does not need to retreat because he meets the criteria, being not an aggressor, legally allowed to be there and is not otherwise engaged in any criminal activity.

The "crime of violence" part is further specified to the "substantial risk of violence" (not violence being committed or imminent). The defense can argue on either the habitation or person count, the latter being more reasonable. Even if this fails, as mentioned before at worst this is attempted manslaughter with significant mitigating circumstances. In all probability no one will bother trying to prosecute him.
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>>54683864
did his store get robbed mutliple times LUL
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>>54683245
>>54683245
>Tell soon-to-be-dead-nigger to leave your property
>He jumps your fence, further into your yard.
>Nigger dead
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>>54683254
Misdirecting your attacker to get a killshot has been taught forever you fucking no guns no shoots european incest baby, since the 90s its been taught to throw your wallet at the floor in front of you and cap a motherfucker, what you think just because they already took your shit they're gonna leave you alone? You're at the end of their mercy uless you can end the threat they pose to you.
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>>54683021
that could be said for all self defense shooting cases
> he had a gun on him, so he couldnt fear for his life.
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>>54683864
Did these degenerate subhumans get caught? I mean, he got their faces on camera pretty good.
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>>54683695
Based.
>>54683864
Why is this dudes door always open with him never at attendance.
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>>54683334
You probably said the same thing about kyle rittenhouse you fucking bitter loser.
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>>54683469
At most you're a guy who browses the web alot but you have no idea how things work you're not a lawyer and you should just shut the fuck up
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self defense is based. sorry if you seethe about it but being a little bitch is your problem.
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>>54686563
No, it was not a box cutter. It was a 3-4” folding knife
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>>54682087
I don't think he's a bad lad, I think you're more sympathetic to criminals than victims. But in terms of scariness of sharing the earth?

Let's say 10% of people are cruel and happy to brutalize other people. 90% are good, 10% are bad. That doesn't seem so bad until you reaize it'd mean 30 million Americans would happily rob/beat/rape/kill you if they could get away with it or with the slightest justification.

Honestly I hope we have more shopkeeps fucking up thieves because we're getting the momentum of 70s crime rapidly building up with Soros DAs. And I'd normally sound like a tin foil hat retard to say 'Soros DAs' except they are literally unequivocally actually Soros DAs and the man himself fucking unabashedly promotes that fact https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-i-support-reform-prosecutors-law-enforces-jail-prison-crime-rate-justice-police-funding-11659277441

>>54684852
Give an inch they'll take a mile. I think we need justice reform for actual nonviolent crimes but it's peak utopian demented rousseau faggotry to think we should mollycoddle people committing armed or aggressive theft.
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>>54686684
It is unreasonable to assume ill intent when someone with a ski mask jumps a counter, preventing your escape?
Send your lawyer card back to Sears goym faggot.
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>>54683864
did these niggers find out he wasnt there because of the cops or some shit and decide to go rob it? lmfao
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>>54686690
That doesn't fix the 5 elements not being met here. Nearly all of them are broken in this case and even worse, the guy has potentially demonstrated mens rea by posting an AMA on reddit.
Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground statutes don't apply here, they don't give you broad latitude, you still have to meet the 5 elements, there are no substitutes.
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>>54683888
Wanting to not be robbed again, putting up a fight when youre actually there is murder? If your house has been burglarized before and it gets burgled again with you there you getting in a tussle with a ski masked burglar is you wanting to commit murder? You are mentally ill or severely low iq.
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yes
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holy fuck this guy is retarded. he literally did a reddit ama and mentions video games as a tool to keep calm. LUL courts going to fuck him good saying he stabbed him because hes disassociated from real life due to him playing video games and not knowing real life from video games.
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Jokes aside they will find him guilty because the powers that be want you to be totally susceptible to all criminal actions done against you. No matter how egregious and or petty.
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>>54686785
workplace doesnt equal home in a lot of states. not sure about where he is though.
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>>54686784
he fucked up in that AMA by saying he never felt threatened, lmao, what a retard, i think what he did is just but a court won't because he's too fucking stupid
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>>54682087
>sub 100iq replies to this post missing it’s point
Yep. It’s a Reddit thread.
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>>54686230
If he kicked his ass with just fists or used an expandable baton he'd still be in legal trouble dipshit nothing you say is smart helpful or meaningful
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>>54683888
Retard
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>>54686772
No, the law considers it disingenuous to imagine there's a deadly force threat when there isn't one.
That's why reasonableness is an element of self-defense. A grandma could hide an Uzi between her boobs, is it reasonable to assume that she is AND that she intends to use it on you?
I understand you'll think that's a gross reduction and strawman, but it's really not as far as the law is concerned. Did you percieve a deadly force threat or not?
If not, why did you use deadly force?
You can't IMAGINE that it happened or say "it was real in my mind", you need some kind of knowledge or perception to draw that inference from.
If the store owner said, "yeah I saw the imprint of a firearm in the guy's shirt and the police find that weapon, well that's a pretty reasonable perception that you may be subject to deadly force.
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>>54686603
Who cares dude point is he didn't have one then
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>>54686807
Holy shit lmao
The amount of men who are convicted because they can't admit they feared for their life is astonishing.
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>>54686078
Its Nevada....
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>>54686543
>proportionality
The man was fighting back and generally when he stopped, so did the store owner. Like I said, fucked? At best this is a reduced attempted manslaughter charge.
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>>54684632
Now he gets to live the rest of his life thinking about what a retard he is.
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>>54686831
No he wouldn't.
Non-deadly force is proportionate to what is being threatened. The guy would have been a-okay short of using the blunt object to commit great bodily harm or death upon the thieves.
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>>54684734
Ok day/k/are
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>>54686862
The thief never started fighting, which without proof of a weapon would have been a non-deadly force conflict.
The store owner initiated the deadly force conflict.
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>>54686847
So why'd the guy in NY get charges dropped for stabbing that dude in the neck?
2 guys were on property unlawfully and 1 charged jumping a barrier after being told to leave.
Worker doesnt have to wait for attacker to pull out a knife or a gun.
The robbers already have a disparity of force.
Enough with your autistic bait faggot.
Go choke a dick and ponder.
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>>54681564
Yes.
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>>54686327
Yes but he's not arguing it as a standalone issue, and it's not a standalone issue. Jumping over a counter in the full context of this specific case where we have recorded footage of the criminal *not* proceeding to the store clerk but instead proceeding straight to an item on the wall... that is what will fuck this guy. to my dismay.

not only that but he witnessed the first kid grab an item and run. even a child would assume the second kid had the same plan, and the jury will think the same.

hopefully they just recognize that he fucked up while acting under a duress that was attributable to their shitty behavior, and give him the minimum punishment possible.
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>>54686890
Political pressure.
Remember also that a person's stature(age, condition) are considerations. In that case the old man had been actively, phsysically assaulted, AND there had been verbal threats made.
A lot more mitigating circumstances than here.
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>>54686784
>nearly all of them were broken
As a stand your ground state, avoidance is dropped. He quite clearly meets innocence and reasonableness that two adult men could whack him. Jumping over the counter indicates imminence by getting closer. Proportionality is not that if you're being attacked with fists, you can only hit him back with fists - there have been many cases of shooting unarmed assailants as self defense. It's that you harm the attacker no more than is necessary to stop. Which is also met, because he stopped stabbing when the robber went limp.
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>>54686886
You can see him attacking the store owner after he gets stabbed. Given that he's committing a crime, he cannot claim his fighting back is self defence, and the store owner could quite reasonably argue it was part of the crime.
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>>54686890
you seem dumb, so i'm not surprised you can't tell the difference between the two situations. the guy in NY was literally pushed around and laid hands upon by his assailant. this all following a tense verbal altercation. it was clear he was in the process of being assaulted; the guy didn't even want stuff, he just wanted to assault him; and it was clear to the world that he deserved to fight for his life.

the kid in Las Vegas was moving perpendicular to the shopkeeper. that means not even going towards him. he went straight to a wall with stuff on it. he was stabbed with his hands grabbing vape shit. it will be very hard to argue that he was in fear of his life given this is all on camera clear as day.
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>>54686946
That's a jury question.
As I said, he doesn't have a duty to retreat, but he chased down the kid. That one is broken too. Only one element needs to be broken to bring the house of cards down.
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>>54686977
You actually can claim self defense in this instance.
You are allowed to defend yourself, even in the commission of a crime, defense law is weird.
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>>54684649
How aee the Muslims and african 40 year old "child" doctors treating you?
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>>54686984
It's not a jury question, it is statutorily written that avoidance is not a criteria in certain circumstances which apply here. If you watch the video the grown ass man robbing his store is in the process of the crime and not running. After the first stab he starts to fight back. After some fighting he turns around, and the store owner stabs him twice in about a second then stops. So this is nowhere near attacking a person running away.

And one element needs to bring down a perfect self defence. At its worst from the start, this is a case of attempted manslaughter. Then there's multiple mitigating circumstances, at worst a partial self defence meeting 3 out of 4 of Nevada's criteria. So in the worst case it's a reduced attempted manslaughter, which is just a few years in jail.
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>>54685236
>WELL AT LEAST OUR SKOOLS AREN'T SHOOTIN GAH LERIES

AN WE AVE FREE EALTH KARE!
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>>54681837
>Based stabber gook redditor
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>>54686994
Innocence is quite clearly broken. Avoidance - which isn't removed in Nevada for his case as the criminal - is also broken. And given that committing a robbery is quite a threatening act, his self defense is likely entirely invalid.
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>>54686780
yea they were friends with the guy who got stabbed and he gave them the heads up after the chink left. whole thing was planned to go that way
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>>54686675
>just trust me bro
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>>54687120
Right, aside from the fact that the video is dated a month earlier, you raging fucking faggot.
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>>54687120
lmfao, lying faggot btfo by this anon >>54687173
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>>54681482
>video title: "how to politely inform robbers that the area behind the counter is off-limits"
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>>54686979
nigger the dude hopped a fucking counter with a ski mask on, shut the fuck up with this "hard to justify defense" shit
You're just mad because you know you're exactly like the guy who got stabbed, meek, low T and at the bottom of the economic ladder
Unironically the humble vape shop owner is a more worthy member of society than you, pays his taxes, generates revenue and fights one more day for the American dream

You have slave mentality.
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>>54681837
If playing LoL made him a master of the blade I feel justified in skipping the range to play Battlefield and Halo.
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>>54682234
Knife stuck. KNIFE STUCK!
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>>54687718
>my argument is that you're a faggggggg
you surrender has been accepted
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>>54688148
i mean its true, if you believe someone has the right to barge into your place of work with a fucking ski mask on and rob your shit, you probably take dicks in your ass
All's I'm asking is don't commit pre-meditated felony robbery with two accomplices while wearing a fucking ski mask if you're gonna complain about someone stabbing you
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>>54688201
i know i know, your entire flawed argument rests on the idea of "ski mask + jumped counter = implicit threat of violence" while retardedly disregarding where the clerk was when the counter was jumped, retardedly disregarding where the guy went after he jumped the counter, retardedly disregarded him witnessing the first guy do what was obviously the same crime. and no matter how many people respond to you with that information, you just keep repeating the same shit because your argument is ultimately just an expression of your emotions and not actual thinking.
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>>54688570
he was behind the counter when the guy jumped over the counter and he was swatting the other thief's hand away from stealing something, he was literally backed in a corner from both directions, it doesn't matter what the stab victim was trying to do because there's no reasonable explanation as to why he would have to jump over a counter to rob the dude, it's violence, it's a felony and the dude deserves his fate as a living vegetable for his unfathomably stupid choices
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>>54682324
You think smart people do robberies? Lmao
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Whole bunch of faggot retards itt.
>”law fag”
Lol @ your lies and shit takes gay ass kids
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>>54681482
>Spit it out!
>I'M DEAD NIGGAAA
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>>54688570
LMAO what a faggot, post your adress so I can jump the proverbial counter lie a friendly neighbor and steal your shit. You won't do anything right baby boi :^)
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>>54688878
he only had the legal right to use nondeadly force and then if they escalated, he could use deadly force. facts don't care about your feelings, snowflake
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>>54682918
Kneel and submit as your nature dictates whore



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