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What's wrong with revolvers?

People seem to shit all over them, and I just can't figure out why. They don't jam as much as semi-auto's, and you can easily tell if they're unloaded. A bullet from a revolver is just as deadly as from a semi. So what gives?
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>>54118383
Nothing wrong with them. Carry/shoot/buy what you want.
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>>54118383
They take a ton of practice to shoot accurately in double action and six for sure objectively works less often than 7 for sure, a maybe, and then 7 more for sure with handgun rounds. The memest .357 magnum is still no more deadly than a 9mm when fired into a drunk faggot 10 feet away.
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>>54118383
>>54118383
Too many min max larping faggots who think they're bootleg John wick write them off cuz hurr durr only 6 boolet.

Nothing is wrong with revolvers, in fact in some instances they're better as you can get a smaller profile revolver than a standard semi. Imo I would take an airweight over a compact anyway.
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>>54118417
>you can get a smaller profile revolver than a standard semi
A semi is always smaller than a revolver of the same weight class and barrel length. I'm not sure what you mean by a "standard" semi, but a pocket pistol is always going to be smaller than a J frame, a compact pistol is always going to be smaller than a K frame, a full-size will always be smaller than an L or N frame, and even a Desert Eagle isn't as bulky as an X frame but that's not a very fair comparison due to the power disparity.
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>>54118383
Mutts hate european technology, that's why
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>>54118417
my 3" j-frame is the same length as my 4" glock 19
as much as I love revolvers, they are not too efficient in sizing
>>54118383
no reasoning to it, retards will find a way to fight other retards until the end of time
I like spinny bois and more often than automatics do I find myself having it on hand
>>54118394
and once you know how to time double action you are set
I like that it doesnt eject shiny brass everywhere until I want it to
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>>54118677
>a revolver is discussed
>the insecure urinepeon posts his picture again
See, OP, like I said retards will be mad and convince themselves they need to argue until the end of time
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>>54118383
How well do you shoot a DA revolver? Personally, I find striker and DA/SA pistols much easier to shoot due to a shorter and lighter trigger pull.

Most new micro compacts in 9mm have 10+1 round capacities in the same or smaller space as a j-frame. With those advantages in mind, why would you carry a j-frame or similar when you could have twice the capacity and a shorter, lighter trigger pull?

A lot of it comes down to personal preference. Jerry Miculek is an excellent shot with DA revolvers. If I could shoot one like him, I would be more tempted. But I shoot my da/sa and striker guns much faster and accurately so I choose those instead of training with a da revolver.

I get the second strike capability and the fact that a revolver will not ‘jam’ unless something stops the cylinder from moving, but those benefits don’t outweigh the trigger pull and capacity issues.
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>>54118417
It's exactly because I'm NOT John Wick that I want more than 6 bullets. If I get into a self-defense situation I'm going to be a terrified faggot and miss half my shots or more
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>>54118383
nothing is "wrong" with them, it's just that choosing one over a modern handgun is like taking a stat penalty for no reason. a gun is a gun and i'm sure you'll probably be fine with a revolver, but a polyframed striker fired 9mm is objectively better
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>>54119429
>like taking a stat penalty for no reason
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>>54119445
>analogies not in the form of facebook minion memes confuse the boomer
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>>54119504
Damn, critical hit dude!
us gamers bro, am I right?
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>>54118677
>european technology
What is Colt, Alex?
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>>54118677
Their internals aren't a 1-to-1 exact fascimile, what the fuck are you smoking?
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>>54119680
Ah yes the complicated and varied internals of a revolver
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>>54118394
>six for sure objectively works less often than 7 for sure, a maybe, and then 7 more for sure with handgun rounds
>The memest .357 magnum is still no more deadly than a 9mm when fired into a drunk faggot 10 feet away
357 is objectively more deadly than 9mm, it carries and delievers more force. 9mm will make an attacker dead quick, but for whatever it's worth 357 will kill faster with fewer
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>>54118394
>The memest .357 magnum is still no more deadly than a 9mm when fired into a drunk faggot 10 feet away.
Tell us how you don't know shit about guns without telling us that you don't know shit about guns.
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does anyone make a 5 shot .357 Mag revolver with 6 inch barrel nowadays?
the only option i see are old Korth revolvers (which i do have one already)
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>>54119876
No, because at 6" you arent concealing so the cylinder size is irrelevant
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>>54118383
Revolvers are fine, and for civilian defensive use they are great. You're likely going to be on the back foot if you need to pull your gun and having it be simple to use and less prone to failure due to fumbling, bad grip, or contact shots is a good feature, and capacity isn't that important (though it doesn't hurt to have more). Magnum cartridges in carry revolvers are fucking stupid and a cope for insecure revolverfags. If your barrel is less than six inches just use .38/.44 special. Magnums are for hunting and bear defence.

I unironically think .22lr snubbies should be the default option for most people when it comes to concealed carry. Simple to use, easy to shoot, good capacity, low blast and recoil and cheap to train with.
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>>54118383
Nothing.
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>>54120693
>Magnums are for hunting and bear defence.
The thing is that .357 is in the weird niche where its too powerful for self-defense and not powerful enough to hunt with. Probably because it was developed as an antimaterial round. Most handgun hunters recommend .44 Mag at minimum.
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>>54119713
Lol no it fucking isn't. Higher energy doesnt mean dick at the velocities handgun rounds move at. You're still punching a hole into flesh and hoping you hit something important, and extra blast and recoil will make your accuracy worse
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>>54118383
Trigger guard too small to shoot with gloves on, no way to attach a light or optic*, no provision for modern high visibility sights, awkward reloads, bigger and heavier and more expensive than a comparable autoloader, impossible** to suppress
If you like revolvers, that's fine, but the argument for them falls apart as soon as you step even a single inch outside their tactical comfort zone.
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>>54121798
.357 snub revolver is smoother than a 9mm combat or striker in my opinion. Once I spent more time with both I realized the .357 had less recoil and was able to shoot it with better precision DA
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The .357 was designed for a very specific purpose.

Hitting a man taking shelter behind a car door. Specifically a 30's vintage car door, when cars were still built out of metal and wood.

Rolling gunbattles in the public enemies era showed that the regular .38 Long Colt couldn't be relied on to incapacitate someone in a car, and even the .38 Special was iffy.
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>>54119526
>What is Colt, Alex?
A charlatan and a plagiarist.
You know he literally LARPed as a pajeet to beg for money to pay the bills, right?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tFaIEXsXHAk
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>>54120924
.357 is definitely at the upper end of "common service calibers" but it's not totally unreasonable for two-legged animals, and it's fine for thin-skinned smallish-medium game if you get close enough (when .357 Mag was introduced part of the initial advertising campaign was hiring professional hunters and gunwriters to kill literally every kind of CONUS game animal up to and including grizzly bears with it, but modern commercial loads and handloading manuals are too pussy to achieve that kind of performance) but .44 Mag gives you a lot more room for error while still being manageable by nearly all shooters.
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I sincerely doubt anyone here owns a Colt .357
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>>54118383
>What's wrong with revolvers?
Nothing. People just like complaining about things they don't really understand.

>>54118393
/thread.
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>>54121798
While it's generally true that there is no statistical difference between the effectiveness of most typical handgun rounds, we actually do have data that .357 mag is indeed a lot more effective than the average. about twice as effective when it comes to one-shot stops, actually. The main group that performs similarly is .380, .38 spl, 9mm. 10mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP, and the data is pretty clear about 357 being more effective.
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>>54122002
I have zero problem getting a gloved finger in the trigger guard of my GP.
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>>54122218
>Assblasted yuronigger
Let me guess, some french faggot invented flight too? Any more history you need to revise to not be a pathetic loser?
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When I first started carrying I had a glock 19 with two mags. Now I carry this scandium j frame because
>it's super lightweight
>it's easily hidden in my front pocket
>I'm not an action hero and don't need to run counter terrorism ops at panera bread
>a revolver is retard proof, and I want every advantage in the event I actually need to use my weapon
>I have no reason or need to shoot further than several yards
>displaying a gun is going to scare most people off
Not all of reasoning is hard fact. I realize I'm playing the odds, we all are. The difference is the odds are in favor of me never needing a concealed carry piece. The odds are not in favor of needing a full size duty pistol with an rmr and several spare mags.
So I choose the comfort of a j frame. It's your life. You decide what you want to carry and what you feel you need in a given situation. If you feel you need more than a revolver that's cool, literally no one is telling you you have to carry one.
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>>54123202
It's not an issue of getting a (light enough) glove in, on S&Ws (at least) the insulation gets caught above the trigger and prevents it from resetting.
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>>54118691
>my 3" j-frame is the same length as my 4" glock 19
Where do the inches start on each? My understanding was a revolver barrel starts at the beginning of the forcing cone while an automatic start at the back of the chamber?
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>>54124120
the back of the chamber counts as the barrel length
Yes
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>>54124155
But on a revolver, the chamber does not count as part of the barrel length?
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>>54124456
the bullet is not inserted into the barrel on a revolver, is why the gap is there
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>>54124155
As per most laws and shooting disciplines, revolvers are measured from the rear of the forcing cone.
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>>54123456
Which is why everyone needs a Fitz in their stable for winter.
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>>54124456
On an automatic, the chamber is included in the barrel length measurement because it's literally part of the barrel. Counting the length of a revolver's cylinder toward the length of the barrel would be comparable to counting the length of a rifle's magazine.
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>>54120328
it actually is relevant, five round cylinders are sleek and elegant.
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>>54118383
>only 6 shots
>takes a long time to reload
>long trigger pull
They would probably get the job done but why would you use it over a glock with 17+1?
>inb4 caliber debate
9mm is plenty especially when you dont have to worry about running out of ammo.
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>>54124822
Even allowing the caliber debate, a .357 Sig Glock 31 is 15+1 and is, in every quantifiable way, equal in performance to the 125gr .357 Mag load that everyone likes.
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>>54124670
>retarded design
Nah
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>>54124871
You may not like it, but that's what peak performance looked like at the time.
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>>54124822
>only 6 shots
plenty for 99% of DGUs
>takes a long time to reload
reloads are a meme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0tst9-_pPs
>long trigger pull
that's a safety feature
>inb4 caliber debate
all calibers .32 and up are statistically equivalent in effectiveness
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>>54124891
>You may not like it, but that's what peak performance looks like all the time.
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>>54124891
Explain why is it actually a good design over a regular snub nose without an exposed trigger.
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>>54124915
It's all memes except for being easier to use with heavy gloves. But it's vintage tacticool larptastic and it makes trannies seethe for some reason.
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>>54124949
Who the fuck uses heavy gloves when using a snubnose. It just seems dumb. I shoot a model 36 and I couldnt see myself wearing thick enough gloves that it would be an issue or that I wouldnt use something else
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>>54124988
People who live somewhere it's cold and spend more time outside than just between the car and the grocery store? Dude who invented the concept was some kind of plainclothes LEO in Chicago or something in the 20s or 30s and carried a pair of Fitz'd .45Colt New Services in specially tailored pockets.

I will never try to argue a Fitz is some paragon of practicality. I will argue it's a fun bit of revolver history that will still kill a nigger.
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>>54118383
Nothing. They're reliable and easy to use, but don't have the ammo capacity to live out your saving the virgin from the 10 school shooter terrorist fantasy.

Whatever feels best for you, Anon.
>>54118393
Fpbp
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>>54118383
Luv me bodyguard
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>>54124670
*blocks your path*
Where's your two world wars, bitch?
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>>54125503
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>>54124680
>Counting the length of a revolver's cylinder toward the length of the barrel would be comparable to counting the length of a rifle's magazine.

>i don't understand headspace or bolt thrust: the post
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>>54125518
>non regulation
Enjoy your court marshall for destroying government property
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>>54125570
If it gets me out of the mud I welcome it.
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>>54125596
We really need to stop global warming.
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>What's wrong with revolvers?
In order of importance:
>Capacity
>Double action trigger
>Size relative to barrel length
>No provision for a weapon light on most common models
>No provision for an optic on most common *CC models
>Slower to reload
And the benefits of revolvers in order of importance:
>Extremely simple manual of arms *until you have to reload which is unlikely*
>Heavy double action triggers mean you can *relatively* safely carry it in a pocket without a holster
>In the event of a failure you can just pull the trigger again
>Magazine related malfunctions do not exist
Essentially you're trading the capacity and practical accuracy of an auto for a simple manual of arms.
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>>54125744
>practical accuracy of an auto
lolwut
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>>54125806
I'm significantly more accurate at distance with a Sig365 XL and red dot than any similarly sized revolver with a heavy double action trigger. Obviously if you put competition sights or a red dot on a 686 with a trigger job it's a moot point, but that's not really what we're talking about here. I also forgot to mention that not working with suppressors is another downside of revolvers.
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>>54125859
>I'm significantly more accurate at distance with a Sig365 XL and red dot than any similarly sized revolver with a heavy double action trigger.

Maybe because you spend more time training with that setup than training with a revolver? Also no shit you will do better "at distance" with a dot. That's the entire reason for a dot. Means fuck all for a self-defense weapon though as most DGUs occur under 10y. I'm not trying to shit on your gun so don't get pissy. Any gun is perfectly fine if you practice with it but don't be surprised when you're better with the gun you practice with than one you don't practice with.
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>>54125859
You just sound like a bad shooter.
https://youtu.be/HIwVK_FxGZk
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>>54125913
Self defense shootings at 10y+ do happen although they're rare. The Texas Church shooting is an example. 10y 1-shot headshot. I'm highly confident in my ability to make such shots with dot equipped autos. A snub nosed revolver with a shit sights and a shit trigger? Ehhh.
>>54125914
I already know that's a Jerry video without clicking on it. You're not that good either. Whatever he's doing in the video, you're unable to do it as well.
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>>54125596
>boomers think chopping up grandpa's surplus revolver = war trophy
Nice larp
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>>54118383
>They don't jam as much as semi-auto
But they do jam worse, and are harder to fix when they do. Bend your crane nigga. You'll have to take your spin-gun to the shop while I simply rack my Glock.
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>>54124893
Watch the brazilian revolver shooting. If either side had a modern doublestack 9mm instead of a revolver the results would be different.
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>>54125992
>I dont wanna watch the video that shows I am speaking from my ass
The point of the video is he is using the basic small unadjustable sights on a j-frame- and using his pinky for the double action pull
your main complaint was 'oh revolvers dont have red dots so they arent accurate' and 'my baby hands cant stage a trigger easily'
It's called knowing how to shoot. I can stage a double action trigger easily and instantly- therefore the heavy double action is not a point to make- except in my favor because it means if someone takes the revolver from me they are apparently unable to shoot because theyre gong to jerk far left because HEAVY
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>>54125992
So don't shoot the dude in the head, you can make COM shots at 10y with a snubby
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>>54125992
>I'm highly confident in my ability to make such shots with dot equipped autos. A snub nosed revolver with a shit sights and a shit trigger? Ehhh.

Confidence comes with experience. Also just because you have not put in the work to master the DAO trigger doesn't make the trigger shit. It makes you shit with a DAO trigger.

>>54126044
>muh total failure due to abuse
goddamn we got full cope going now boys
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>>54125102
Never seen dirty harry I assume?
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>>54126059
Yeah maybe one of those fags would have limp-wristed their gun and jammed it up.
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>make revolver thread
>preface it with a statement that makes revolver owners feel oppressed
>spend the rest of the thread circle-jerking about how much better you are than other gun owners
>404
>make another thread about how revolver owners are oppressed
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>>54126092
>4 shots total fired
>limp wrist malf

yeah he would have been fucked with a revolver as he'd have run out of ammo when his gun worked 6 times in a row.
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>>54126060
He's arguably the best revolver shooter in the world and has been practicing for 60+ years. I don't feel compelled to learn how to shoot guns with 14lbs triggers and terrible sights when good options are available. I spend my time practicing with the better equipment.
>>54126070
Sure, but why would I give up an ability that I already have for no benefit?
>>54126076
No, it's objectively bad. The fact that it's possible to master doesn't make up for the fact that better options exist.
>bro you just need to master the 14lbs trigger pull just because.
No lmao. I'm not going to. I'm not going to learn how to speed load a muzzle loader either.
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>>54126234
Weird, it didn't take me 60 years to learn how to stage a trigger or aim a handgun. Sounds like a you problem.
>zoom zoom
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>>54126234

listen man they're all just gonna admit at the end of the day they carry a revolver because they like revolvers. everything else they're saying right now is just pathos
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>>54126234
>better options exist.
But they're not better. They have plusses and minuses like everything. Revolvers are immune to a host of malfunctions that are auto-loader specific. To gain this power you lose capacity. I prefer to know my gun will work with the worst grip ever gripped in that one second I need it to work than bet my life that an auto won't jam but I'll have 10+rds if it works. You are free to make a different choice for different reasons. Us choosing different things doesn't make the other guy wrong. I'm sorry if your ego can't handle this fact.
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>>54126307
>everything else they're saying right now is just pathos

Don't make me post the(completely scientifically proven) jamming pasta.

I carry a revolver because I like them and because I have confidence in them based on 40+yrs of shooting them with NO MALFUNCTIONS(except user-induced from playing with spring weights). Revolvers are more reliable but you pay the price of steeper learning curve and limited capacity. ITT people who will never put in the work shit on revolvers because what they got is "good enough" for the level of effort they are willing to expend. Trying to pretend that autos have no negatives is disingenuous. I really wish you guys all the best. No one is wrong except people who claim their opinion is the only objectively valid one.

Have a fat poosy.
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>>54126440
>ITT people who will never put in the work

maybe people would rather spend that effort getting good at something that actually matters.
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>>54118383
reduced ammo capacity, exposed hammer, and if it goes out of time it will take your hand
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>>54126456
>something that actually matters

making a perfect pie crust?
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>>54126481
>if it goes out of time it will take your hand

>t. knows nothing about revolvers

A revolver that is out of time can never be so out of time that it will detonate the gun. If it's that far off the firing pin can't hit the primer. Worst you're gonna get is some shaved lead and it will be a progressive failure that is easily spotted in the early stages.

Now one bonus autos do have is that it is impossible to blow up a gun with a squib because the autoloader won't cycle a new round(due to the squib). You'd have to be a moron and manually rack a new round in to fire behind a squib to detonate a gun. This is why I only shoot my own handloads in revolvers because I like to go fast and I don't know what's inside that factory shit.
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You're arguing with a fortnite zoomer who thinks he needs FLIR on his handgun to hit targets. Someone I genuinely do not believe owns or is able to own a handgun.
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>>54126440
It is engorged, she must really be into him
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>>54126549
>Wanting a good sighting system means you're irresponsible
FFS
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>>54126661
just let them enjoy their antique guns anon
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>>54126661
>Needing to be spoonfed easy alternatives in life because you cant take a little time to learn something
There you go !
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>>54126690
>getting mad at people for using easier alternatives
>as a gun owner
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>>54118383
Outdated and gay
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>>54126713
>getting mad at people for being stronger
>for learning to develop skills
okay, day one DLC payer
I get it, youre insecure enough to get mad that people like revolvers. no counter point to it. what a sad life you have
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>>54126741
>im better because i put more effort in!
>they are worse because they are utilizing modern technology!

ok so basically you just want people to recognize that you're a big boy and practiced a lot with your revolver.
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>>54126752
>im better because i put more effort in!
Yeah, glad you got that
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>>54126741
>okay, day one DLC payer
What are you even talking about? Lmao
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>>54126752
I'm not him but what I want people to recognize is all that matters is how much you've practiced. The choice of gun/caliber is irrelevant.
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>>54126802
>all that matters is how much you've practiced.

ok but my point is that the time you put in to getting better with an automatic is going to pay out much MORE than the time you spent getting better with a revolver.
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In my opinion, most people carry handguns for defense from humans, and something like a generic 15 rounds of 9mm give you better odds than 6 rounds of 357, both will kill you just have more chances and less recoil with a standard 9mm.
But I do think revolvers have their place, if I'm in danger of getting fucked by a Grizzly while out doing shit I'd rather a 44 mag revolver as a backup than a glock 17.
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>>54126832
If revolvers are at a disadvantage like you say, then the opposite would be true.
>>54126788
>Lmao
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>>54126832
Good enough is good enough. If you want to argue that getting to good enough with an auto is easier/more time efficient than getting good enough with a revolver then that is a perfectly reasonable argument to make. It really pisses me off that faggot gayleb deleted the only good video he ever made about revolvers having a u-shaped utility curve. They're very good for noobs who are never going to git gud and they are very good for autists who are going to put in the work to git gud. Everyone in between is probably better off with an autoloader.
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>>54118383
They aren't optimal this is an objective fact, but if you're autistic enough that a revolver is the only thing you will carry, then just shut the hell up and carry the damn revolver. Understand you are making a sub optimal choice and that any talking point you're prepared to vomit out about how they're supposedly the better choice is nothing but cope.
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>People not discussing the major significant advantage of a revolver over an automatic.
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bros im thinkin of CC a ruger super redhawk alaskan in 454 casull, thoughts? I live in chicago btw
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>>54127001
Define your criteria for "optimal".
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>>54127509
>t. pic related
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>>54122218
>You know he literally LARPed as a pajeet to beg for money to pay the bills, right?
>Source: My puckered anus
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If you don't have a pony you're a phony.
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Why isn't there a fully automatic revolver
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>>54129465
Post your's.
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>>54129523
1930 Police Positive Special
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>>54129486
>introduce a ton of mechanical complexity to a system that already looks like a mechanical watch on the inside so that you can sprain your wrist trying to keep from dumping half of your cylinder into the ceiling
somebody call Kel-tec, this one sounds like a winner
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>>54125992
>needs a red dot
Then use one, faggot.
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>>54125177
Consider switching to grip panels and a grip adapter. It's my favorite way to carry. You can get all 3 fingers on the grip.
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>>54120328
Ita actually not that hard to conceal in a pancake. The part that prints the most in any handgun is the grip.
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>>54118394
What a dumb faggot post. You ought to be ashamed
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>>54129465
>easily bent unprotected cylinder rod
>retarded cylinder release
>Colt snobbery
No thanks, I'll stick with my Smiths.
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>>54118383
help me decide bros, sw model 642 or 637?
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>>54130830
642 for practicalities sake, asssuming you intend to pocket carry. 637 for easier plinking and leaping as a noire character
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>>54118383
Stubby revolvers are giga chad conceal carry
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>>54118677
Now show the SAA.
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>>54123365
Nice piece - where'd you get your speed strip from?
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>>54118383
Nothing specifically, but they do come with a few drawbacks that people tend to gloss over.
>trigger weight
>double action pull
>low capacity
>finicky reloads
>high bore axis
>zero recoil mitigation
>mindfulness of timing
>knowledge of what to do during a jam
These are all things you'll realistically have to train yourself on when you shoot a revolver. However, as long as you're willing to put in the effort, a revolver can still serve you well in a self defense situation, though a lot of people like to gloss over the downsides, especially jamming.
Revolvers jam less often, of course, due to their complete inability to fail to feed or eject, but when they do jam, it's often that much more jarring and significantly harder to clear.
For example... I was shooting my model 19 and a primer backed out of the shit-tier Remington .357 load I was using. Not a problem for a semi-automatic pistol, as the offending round would simply be ejected.
The revolver, however, refused to advance to the next round as the backed-out primer was inducing a total cylinder lockup. The solution was simple (just thump the cylinder out and remove the offending shell) but it took me a good moment to realize what was even going on.

tl;dr Train with your platform, whatever it is, until you know that it isn't a flawless platform. If you haven't discovered this, you haven't trained enough.
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>>54126481
I have never ever had a revolver malfunction.
Autoloading pistols and rifles, yes.
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>>54130830
638 so you can have the best of both worlds.
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>>54129486
Webley made one.
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>>54130963
https://zetasix.com/
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>>54130579
>only 9mm
>holoshit laser
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>>54131009
>t. played Battlefield 1
Webley didn't make a fully automatic revolver.
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>>54130709
If you don't have a Colt you're a dolt.
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>>54118677
colt had the lightning back in the 1870s
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>>54135414
if you don't have a Smith & Wesson you need to go to confession
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>>54135577
If you don't have a pair you'll never grow nut hair.
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>>54135385
I don't know what Battlefield 1 is.
If you are trying to cap on me because I answered someone asking about a FULL auto revolver, okay you got me.
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>>54130959
Why would I want a single action-only iron frame piece of junk in 1873 when I could get a real steel double action center fire MODERN technology in the 1850's?
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>>54136302
because the SAA is chambered in .45 Colt, not 8.1mm Austro-Hungarian Rimfire or whatever literal Europellet that thing uses
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>>54136647
>Europellet

kek
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>>54118394
>They take a ton of practice to shoot accurately in double action
What the fuck am I reading? I've been shooting double action fine since I was a 60lb 10 year old. You should be practicing with your carry gun regardless.
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>>54136240
>I don't know what Battlefield 1 is.

pretending to be ignorant of 'popular' things is the most cringe form of contrarianism.
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>>54137276
Just because something is popular doesn't mean everyone knows about it. Culture is more fragmented than ever with everyone living in their own content bubbles.
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>>54129486
It exists.But you will need to lift a lot to be able to use it.
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>>54136647
>45 colt
more like 45 Cope, amirite?
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>>54123365
What happens if you shoot a 119gr bullet anon?
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>Muh capacity.
Just carry more revolvers, problem solved.
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>>54138075
Arr !
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>>54119525
Haha, no one plays games and tabletop never became relevant to multiple generations of people. Got these heckin zoomers! I'm glad I'm not a nerd who isn't into popular culture!
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>>54124906
I get their purpose but those groove grips on Model 36's just really ruins the whole classic look
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>>54138152
Get a grip adapter anon. Classic looks and a better grip.

https://bkgrips.com/store/
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>>54138189
oh cool, an adapter seller that isnt using a website from 1999 and requires you to mail in a check
thanks man, been wanting one for a while
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>>54138152
>>54138189
>needing a grip adapter
It's a handgun, not a handsgun
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>54138259
>a stupid non-response
How I can tell youve never shot a wood grip
>>54138238
ah damn uses paypal and I'm banned for dom
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>>54138282
Contact them and see if they can pay a different way?
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>>54138325
Yeah that dude is super cool he will probably work something out with you.
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>>54118383
>They don't jam as much as semi-auto's
>They don't jam as much as semi-auto is
This right here is why people shit on revolvers. They're outdated and the people who obsess over them are retards. I grew up on revolvers, I like revolvers, but most of the people at up with them are idiots.
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>>54138369
Oh and here's something to think about. There is ONE guy still making these(fuck tyler their shit don't count). If you even think you might possibly maybe want one someday go buy it before he dies/retires and you're left trolling auction sites.
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>>54138396
Roughly 20 mins of searching youtube for videos of autos jamming. I didn't bother with longer format videos about some autloader jam and how to correct it or some guy talking for 15 mins about his broken gun just short-ish videos of autos jamming at the range.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PaIriiFcmTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUl1QDygD-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wI0nLOUX_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEe9RQ2j1K4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWWKwGr3Vqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcrftSkKsR0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Isr3l8lPV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHML-ouiies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY58lD5c9u0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcOqCg0Q37Q
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/42LGTCdy-84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UynjNtSVH3Q
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YylMIzknJ18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlxIqnRVzm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH8--0wP2zE
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZTh2D7_Ig54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVPgqoVJyDU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V0POEXQMZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7N06v4ZvMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Bq8IscqTjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taaC8SPR__8
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wPSzvNd6lYI
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1_RUZR2wfaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ2vhXzPX2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93GNnY754Dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUgQBhYMO9E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIhyE6j8Mv8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-35YiEZsSg
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3_ORBjxqN3U
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L7mbuGF-I_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3WUNtgUHd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TnOe8onCfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKkmWTMsJbQ
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>>54138416
I then spent roughly the same amount of time looking for revolver "jams".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9BMdzl4rNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAn8_bXRe94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJvywOFOVBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9oz8xsWTfs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3bnfaNcymM

The vast majority of hits for "revolver jam" was people saying YES REVOLVERS JAM not actual videos of revolvers jamming. This motherfucker is my favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K_Ps9aQhR8
DON'T RELOAD IN THE BUSHES GUYS
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>>54138416
>B-but autos can jam too!
OK, and?
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>>54137452
nigger its a AAA series that gets talked about on here at LEAST once a day, how can you know what 4chan is and not know about an insanely popular 20-year old videogame franchise?

the only explanation is that you're some geriatric covid newfag.
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>>54138464
You sound like a real shut-in.
I remember when it first came out, I ignored it for over a year because I thought the name was dumb. Battlefield 1? Uh what are you starting over?
Not everyone is a zoomer who has to view the world through twitch eyes
Get off your BF1 discord and I bet you'll hear about it less than once a day
>>54138447
Why are you so upset some people have fun with revolvers? So much internal anger in this thread
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>>54138494
>knowing the name of a popular videogame series that gets advertised on bags of doritos and mountain dew and dozens of other things you'd see daily automatically means you're a shut-in twitch addict
>goes on to admit that he knows about the series

so you were just being a contrarian retard then? alt-tab back into your hearts of iron campaign.
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>>54138494
>Why are you so upset some people have fun with revolvers?
Who says that I am? Like I said, I grew up on revolvers. What makes you think I don't own a few? I can like a thing without subscribing my entire identity to it you pleb.

Post $1500 in revolvers right now.
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>>54138527
>goes on to admit that he knows about the series
I never claimed otherwise? I play games. But not everyone does. Are you unable to realise that fact; are you that lacking of free thought ?
>hurr durr CONTRARIAN
Ah no need to answer that, you are a copy-paste "thinker" who repeats what he reads.
Now tell me about Starship troopers- all I am asking is for one thing you know about it
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>>54138556
>I never claimed otherwise?
unless you're butting in and replying in the other anons stead, you literally said you didn't know what battlefield 1 is.
>I play games. But not everyone does.
anon this is 4chan, id wager 99% of people on this site play videogames as a primary hobby.
>Now tell me about Starship troopers- all I am asking is for one thing you know about it
the book or the movie? are you trying to imply either are obscure?
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>>54138549
>Post $1500 in revolvers right now.
Not him but I could do that with a picture of a single gun. What is that supposed to prove anyway?
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>>54138615
That isn't me. If someone explicitly says they dont know what it is, and another post says they know what it is- you can infer pretty easily it is not the same person.
Not 'implying' anything. You didn't answer tho, so nevermind. I meant the book
>>54138549
I didn't pay 1500 for what I have, so I can't meet your criteria. So soory. Want to show what you spend 1500 on ?
If it means anything, I have a model 36 and a colt 357
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>>54138665
>You didn't answer tho, so nevermind. I meant the book

what kind of oddball 'gotcha' statement is this? what point were you trying to prove here?
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>>54138651
>>54138665
This is what I believe you children call copium.
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>>54138709
Do you not have a revolver to show ?
Or are you upset that you spent 1500 during a panic buy on yours ?
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well i has a uberti single action army outlaw 7 and a half inches long it takes .45 colt i carry it all day every day have not had any body mess with me ever its just a spooky gun and i feel naked when am not carrying it open carry state would never shoot unless threatened but would loved to me robed by punk with knive would love to see them run away with no leg. sorry abought the long message but i love this gun.
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>>54138728
neckbeard spotted
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>>54138723
>Do you not have a revolver to show ?
I have 2. Technically 3, my grandfather made the 3rd but I can't find it. I'll be buying a hammerless SP101 soon.
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>>54138728
Nice gun but you should really upgrade that holster bro, nylon is a trash material for that.
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>>54138735
hey man fuck you i am not shaving who the fuck am i trying to impress.
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>>54138763
going to get better one but broke af right now ammo all ready through the roof.
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>>54138805
Why'd you link to the pic of my Police Positive?
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>>54118383
>What's wrong with revolvers?
They're not an AR-15. Get with the times, oldfaggot
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my security six heats up after about 8 rounds and the expansion of the cylinder causes it to rub against the chamber until its practically stuck. are there any non-surgical fixes to this or am i gonna have to get a gunsmith to expand the gap?
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>>54138959
>after about 8 rounds
>the expansion of the cylinder

lolno. Have you measured the cylinder gap for every chamber with a feeler gauge? Is the cylinder pin/crane/yoke straight?
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>>54138917
I was the guy you replied to
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>>54138959
Clean your fucking gun.
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>>54139005
ah. Here's my other Colt.
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>>54139058
oh that reminds me I do have another
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>>54139068
Based black powder kitteh. My 16yr old cat was put down two weeks ago. Still not over it.
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>>54138959
File down the forcing cone
Or stop buying shitty investment cast guns
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>>54138995
>the cylinder pin/crane/yoke straight
those were the first things i replaced.
the pic is shit but basically the gap ls more diagonal than a flat gap between the cylinder and barrel.
>>54139015
believe me dude i have scrubbed the shit out of this thing
>>54139112
it was 300 dollars
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>>54139176
Yeah you need to square that forcing cone. Can you tell it the forcing cone is that way due to damage or if it was just cut shitty?
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>>54139107
I have my 17 year old cat here
they are old but they have better live than most cats in the wild
I'm sure you did fine
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>>54139176
>the pic is shit but basically the gap ls more diagonal than a flat gap between the cylinder and barrel.
Lmao you get what you deserve for $300
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>>54139253
You could buy a $250 Taurus with better quality control.
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>>54139216
>Can you tell it the forcing cone is that way due to damage or if it was just cut shitty?
Dude he got a junker with a bent frame/barrel
No way a forcing cone would be cut that way. Bet it spits lead out the top like a sieve too
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>>54139292
the drawing makes it look much worse than it is. i managed to get some good pics of the issue.
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>>54139353
>those marks where the barrel meets the frame
Lmao fucking called it, told you the barrel/frame was fucked with at some point
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>>54120693
My S@W 43c is the best thing that's ever happened to me. 8 lb trigger pull, havent had a light strike in 2000 rounds. 8 shots of federal punch 22 with almost no recoil or muzzle flip. under 12 ozs, forget its on me all the time.
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>>54139386
>marks

its most likely rust, this thing was probably sitting in some sweaty leather holster for 20 years. accuracy-wise its been perfectly ok.
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>>54139423
>rust in a very narrow specific place while the finish elsewhere is perfect
Cope harder. Someone pinched the frame in a shitty vice to remove/replace the barrel and bent it
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>>54137239
>since 10 years old
You just proved his point, bucko. You've got a ton of practice on a double action trigger.
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>>54139446
its got the same sort of rust at the top of the grip.
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>>54138021
this, plus the cylinder gap blast burns through the topstrap and cuts the gun in half
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>>54139624
Yikes, why would anyone buy a revolver in 1911 + 111
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seems like the cylinder binding thing is common for the S6 series, boomer forum said to degrease the cylinder assembly since it can accumulate unburnt powder and metal flakes which causes it to gum things up.
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>>54139388
>8 lb trigger pull,
bullshit unless you're shooting SA
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>>54118383
>What's wrong with revolvers?

1) no one does quality bluing anymore unless it's top end of the market
2) there's no modern top breaks
3) companies seem to loathe the idea of revolvers with easily changeable/upgrade-able sights
4) No one has yet figured out that aesthetics would sell more revolvers to youngfags raised on vidya
5) there are no good cheap .22lr double actions on the market(Taurus don't count they can't meet market demand apparently so you can rarely dins them in stock for msrp)
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>>54139729
Because magnum chamberings. Big boom funny.
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>>54138238
And actually delivers, Tyler T is just cashing checks and not shipping any orders out now.
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>>54141905
1. quality bluing is literally illegal in the US; thanks, EPA
2. Russia made a .357 Mag top break specifically for the US market but it got shitcanned by Clinton-era sanctions
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>>54139729
Because 1911s jam
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>>54118383

haters gotta hate
shoot whatever you want
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>>54142002
The government ruins everything.
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>>54142002
>buying anything russian
kys vatnik cuck
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>>54118383
>They don't jam as much as semi-auto's
a good semi auto with good mags doesn’t jam and has 3 times the capacity of the average 5 shot self defense revolver
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>>54127509
Get a more manageable gun, or at least one of the super Redhawks with a real barrel
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>>54118383
People buying something different from what I have makes me think I made the wrong choice because I'm a weak willed faggot and so I spend my free time mocking their choice of firearm to feel better
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>>54118383
Nothing wrong with them in a civilian context. Shoot things just as dead like any other firearm. As with anything, just do not buy the cheapo crap and you are golden.
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>>54139058
Nice iron friend.
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>>54142002
I still don't understand why american companies haven't come up with anything similar. It can't be that hard to engineer and it would probably sell due to novelty alone.
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>>54138238
Just bought one from him, shipped quick. They are plastic, unfortunately but high quality and handmade
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>>54139729
That's a titanium cylinder, once the coating is compromised the titanium burns away. Competition steel revolvers can have 100,000 + round counts with only minor parts replacement, they're actually way more sturdy than autoloaders as long as you don't blow them up with nuclear loads
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>>54138917
Did you paint the front sight on one orange?
Also, what grip adapter is that? I have one made by desantis called the 'gunhide' but you can't get them anymore
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>>54142002
Redpill me on the bluing thing
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>>54118383
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_28 The shittier the better
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What's the rate of fire of a revolver compared to a semi-auto? Can you fire 7 shots with this >>54118383 as quickly as you can fire 7 shots with something like a Glock?
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>>54146420
Revolvers are mechanically faster than autoloaders most people just have weak fingers and most revolvers have heavy triggers.
Fire a K frame loaded with .38s and with a light trigger and you could beat a glock.
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>>54146148
Buy a Ruger Security 6 it's cheaper than a Smith and Wesson and is made of higher quality metal.
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>>54146981
> made of higher quality metal
Ok, Bill. What do you call that? Even less stainless?
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>>54126440
He was still skinny then, he became a fat poosy later on.
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>>54123190
That doesnt make sense for 10mm considering 10mm is a similar weighted bullet at similar velocity, unless we're talking the very downloaded 10mm that is just slightly warmer .40
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>>54125859
Tbf for a CC topic a suppressor is irrelevant. No one is putting a can on their CC
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>>54145436
Are glocks not good quality? Because there are tons of police videos of them jamming
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>>54146148
Bluing is super toxic in terms of chemicals use. EPA puts tax stuff on it. Thus bluing has gotten a lot cheaper in terms of quality. There's a reason S&W overwhelmingly does stainless now, and why everyone does some sort of parkerization or melonite or cerakote type finish for semi autos.
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>>54138527
You see bags of Doritos and bottles on Mountain Dew on a daily basis? How much do you weigh anon
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>>54145915
It's an outdated design that's weaker than the current standard swing out cylinder and nobody's buying the top breaks that are currently made.
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>>54148133
>the top breaks that are currently made
There's only one(schofield). That bespoke webley don't count. A top break double action with modern styling would sell way better than the schofield.
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>>54148133
>nobody's buying the top breaks that are currently made
Because they're all cowboy shit. The only .357 top break costs $10,000.
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>>54148165
>A top break double action with modern styling would sell way better than the schofield.
No it wouldn't.

>>54148207
>they're all cowboy shit.
Case in point. As if you're doing anything with your range toy that .38 or .45LC can't accomplish.
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>>54148229
>As if you're doing anything with your range toy that .38 or .45LC can't accomplish.

I might if it looked cool and made all muh gun frens think I was a rad dude with an automatic eject space revolver and give me updoots.
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>>54148165
>A top break double action with modern styling would sell way better than the schofield.
Boomer action shooting bans double actions because they hate historical accuracy. So no, the biggest market would be gone
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>>54148229
>you should buy stuff you don’t want so that they’ll make the thing you do want
Yeah, that’s not how it works
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>>54148382
>you should buy stuff you don’t want
So you don't want a top break revolver?
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>>54148407
I don’t want a single action cowboy revolver, no. I want a double action and I want it in 357. Russia delivered, but Clinton killed it.
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>>54148578
So you want a niche thing that doesn't exist and you're unwilling to buy the niche thing that does exist yet you can't understand why the niche thing that you want doesn't exist. Even if it did rule of cool fags wouldn't put their money where their mouths are which is why Bond Arms doesn't make half the shit they used to.
>Russia delivered
My man the REX didn't exit the prototyping stage. It's possible, in fact probable, that Clinton fucked it up but the thing was likely doomed to fail.
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>>54123365
He'll yeah borther

Sent from my iPhone 4 via Tapatalk
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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/936231191

Is this a good first revolver? Can anyone see anything wrong with it?
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>>54147372
10mm might be somewhat more powerful than some other rounds but that doesn't mean the difference is significant or meaningful. It's not like this is a guessing game, we have data from real world shootings and despite what boomers want to believe about muh 45 and muh 10mm when it comes to actually stopping people they aren't any better than a 9 or a 38 special.
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>>54147465
>Bluing is super toxic in terms of chemicals use. EPA puts tax stuff on it
I've heard this fuddlore before, but it seems silly. Some kinds of bluing, like nitre or hot salt bluing, does indeed require chemicals. But most bluing just requires water. And the EPA has no power to tax. I suspect it's simply that the cost of labor for bluing makes it impractical compared to the other finishes you mentioned.
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>>54148983
>Is this a good first revolver? Can anyone see anything wrong with it?

Yeah that would be a great first revolver. It will be very pleasant to shoot .38spl out of it and a lot of fun to shoot full house magnums. Condition looks breddy good from what you can see. If I was going to bid on that gun I'd contact the seller to determine his inspection policy. I will never buy a used revolver online that is sold AS-IS. Too much risk. Assuming the seller has a reasonable inspection policy(like 3 days no-fire inspection, buyer pays return shipping) make sure you inspect it properly BEFORE you do the paperwork when you pick it up. God speed anon.

https://www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/
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>>54118394
My wife was hitting a man sized target from 15 feet the first time she ever shot my 642, which was the first time she shot a pistol that wasn't a 22.
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>>54149142
>My wife was hitting a man sized target from 15 feet
What does that have to do with shooting accurately?
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>>54149229
I know you're probably just being an enormous faggot but what other anon is trying to convey is it's just not as hard as other enormous faggots want you think it is to shoot a small DAO revolver well enough to "make it" on the streets.

*pic related: OPs wife getting hits*
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>>54122002
Sure, these are all problems if you're solid snake. But who the fuck is gonna carry a brick like that, save for the mentally challenged?
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Revolvers are cool but there's a reason law enforcement agencies don't use them anymore. I would not consider a revolver any more reliable than a modern auto loading pistol. The most reliable pistol to date is the Makarov/ cz82.

I can't think of a single reason I'd need one that I couldn't do better with a good subcompact 9mm or an fk 7.5brno.
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>>54124893
literal fedorafag cope
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>>54149072
Except 357 magnum, which has a higher stop rate for some reason. And anything beneath 32, again, for some reason we aren't sure. It can't be because of velocity, energy, or frontal area, because that goes against my religious beliefs that 9mm is the best. Bullet expansion doesn't matter but I still use hollow points. Low recoil and rate of fire is the most important but 5.7 is a meme. I am definitely not mentally ill.
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>>54149301
>is it's just not as hard as other enormous faggots want you think it is to shoot a small DAO revolver well enough to "make it" on the streets.
Sure, I get that.
I'm just confused as to what "getting hits" has to do with accuracy? Is this a video game thing? So long as you get "hits" it's OK? It seems like such a low standard to strive for.
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>>54149308
>there's a reason law enforcement agencies don't use them anymore

Yeah because they're more expensive than autos and because they have a job to do that can require round counts far in excess of what even the most outlier civilian DGU would ever entail.

You are not a cop. You are not a soldier. Your CC only exists to allow you to break contact and live.
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>>54118394
The reason you zoomers cant hit shit unless its with a 15+ round magazine is because you dont practice, don’t understand trigger control or proper grip, are unwilling to spend money on grips and would rather buy some airsoft-tier red dot and then still can’t hit shit because you go to the range once every three months.
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>>54148822
>I want a metal-framed, hammer-fired semi-automatic pistol that isn't chambered in .45 acp
>You should buy a 1911
>I don't want a 1911, I want a different gun with similar features in a different caliber
>Yeah, well, if you're unwilling to buy... etc. etc. etc.
Of course, there are other pistols that meet my requirements (for autoloaders), but surely you see why this is silly and you're being disingenuous. Creating more demand for schofields doesn't increase demand for a modern break top revolver. It just expands the historical reproduction market.
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>>54149369
>So long as you get "hits" it's OK?
yes. Have you never seen any DGU vids? In the vast majority of cases once a victim starts slinging lead back the perps are on their heels or bleeding out or both.

>It seems like such a low standard to strive for.
It is the minimum standard. You gotta accept that most people who own a gun are never going to put in the work to move into true mastery. This is perfectly fine too. Good enough is good enough. Better than average is for enthusiasts and people with elevated threat profiles.
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>>54149366
I think what is hard to separate is WHO is carrying that gun. Who carries .357 magnum for personal defense?
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>>54149443
>Who carries .357 magnum for personal defense?
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>>54149403
>I want a metal-framed, hammer-fired semi-automatic pistol that isn't chambered in .45 acp
So buy one.
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>>54149461
I do think that, perhaps, people of different levels of enthusiasm may be more or less inclined to carry different guns. This enthusiasm may translate to familiarity and skill.
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>>54149471
>t. based retard with no reading comprehension
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>>54149517
I posted
>a metal-framed, hammer-fired semi-automatic pistol that isn't chambered in .45 acp
What more do you want beyond the market catering to demands that you likely won't pony up the money for?
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>>54149541
He doesn't want one(maybe he does) he was using an analogy to shit on other retards argument. Please read every word of a thread before you post. Also lurk moar.
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>>54149564
You have a 2 digit IQ.
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>>54149597
Maybe but I have no fucks to give and I'm a lot of fun at parties.
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>>54149403
>Retarded newfag can't into old guns
Let's say that S&W drops your dream gun. It''s gonna be 4 digits. Are you actually going to buy it or are you going to complain about price forever just like you people do right now"?
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You give every fuck and also you are no fun at partied.
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because revolver "chads" on this board are some of the most unbelievably annoying, pointlessly contrarian individuals to exist
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>>54149904
Sure, I have no problem spending money on a gun that I want, but $10k is a little rich for my blood.
>muh hole
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>>54149983
>Sure, I have no problem spending money on a gun that I want
OK so post your top break revolver.
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>>54149956
But we're not wrong.
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>>54149517
That's not the living ham, that's beaker you retard.
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>>54150301
Yes but "the living ham" made me shoot my choccy milk out of my nose.
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>>54150048
When somebody makes one that I want, I will. Are you even paying attention?
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>>54151503
Modern top break revolvers are a bad idea because nobody buys them because they don’t exist
What’s that? You’d buy one if it existed? Oh yeah well what if it costed a hundred billion dollars? Check mate retard just buy the thing you don’t want it’s literally the same thing
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>>54149983
19 or 586?

I can’t fucking get a group that stays in the same place with my 586L at 7 yards. It’s down right. I adjust the sights. It’s right on. I try another group. It’s down right again. I don’t fucking get it.

The rear sight blade is a fucking target blade with a narrow notch meant for a 6 inch or so barrel, the front sight is too wide for that barrel length. I might just go with a fucking red dot w/ EGW mount looking at how much of a pain in the ass S&W sights are.
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>>54118383
There’s nothing wrong with Revolvers. They’re great, even better than automatics if you think about it. You have to be pretty good to really master them though.

So you’ve got less ammo, yes. However, this will only stress you to perfect your accuracy, as well as train to know how to point shoot if necessary. Besides, 6 bullets should be more than enough to kill anything that moves. If for whatever reason you need more, you can also dual wield (a technique we see in historical examples from the American West). You’d have 12 shots at that point.

12 shots.

There are also techniques that are particular to Revolvers (if you try them on an automatic you’re likely to have a malfunction). For instance; you can twist your elbow to absorb the recoil. This is very useful if you need to shoot fast or on the run.

Still, it all takes a lot of skill. Some training methods you can use to hone your reflexes and handling are some gun twirling exercises (another relic of the old American West). Just make sure you’re using a single-action (The Colt Single Action Army is the best in the world as far as I’m concerned.)

Anyone can use an automatic but it takes a real master to use a Revolver.

(PS: I see you gunslingers with your fancy etched irons. They’re nice guns, I’ll give you that. But those engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever.)
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>>54146981
It's a Dan Wesson, dumbass. Can't get much better than that except maybe Korth
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>>54153325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85VytffCvCo
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>>54125177
>Hillary hole
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>>54151503
That'll never happen. You won't spend money and will instead bitch about the lack of things you won't spend money on.
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>>54152966
19
>>54154059
Sneed
>>54154121
Ok
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>>54130080
It's beautiful
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>>54154187
>Ok
Indeed. Make 3 million more thread about how this thing you won't buy isn't produced. I'll be over here enjoying my regular guns.
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>>54149307
It's not my fault that I got all the flawed, recessive genes.
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>>54118383
i like them but there's plenty that makes them impractical for edc, especially if you're not innawoods
>reduced capacity to most modern double stack autoloaders
>recoil can be difficult to manage for new/inexperienced/weaker shooters
>easy for inner mechanisms to jam/break
>cylinder can go out of timing
a FTF/FTE is easier to clear than getting into the guts of a revolver in the heat of the moment
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>>54156303
Are you new here?

>reduced capacity to most modern double stack autoloaders
but adequate for 99% of DGUs
>recoil can be difficult to manage for new/inexperienced/weaker shooters
All new/inexperienced shooters have to learn to manage recoil. Someone physically too weak to operate a revolver is probably too weak for anything but a shield EZ. If you can't work a shield EZ you can't work a gun.
>easy for inner mechanisms to jam/break
Any gun can break. Claiming revolvers internal mechanisms are more fragile than autos requires some evidence on your part. Provide some please.
>cylinder can go out of timing
With a lot of use, abuse or faulty parts yes a cylinder can go out of timing. Autoloaders can break for the same reasons.
>a FTF/FTE is easier to clear than getting into the guts of a revolver in the heat of the moment
The revolver is immune to a whole host of malfunctions that are specific to autloaders. I haven't had a revolver fail to go bang in 40+yrs of shooting. I have never owned an autolader that hasn't jammed at least once.
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>>54118383
>People seem to shit all over them
they don't you just wanted to create another revolver thread
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>>54156444
>I have never owned an autolader that hasn't jammed at least once.

Fuck I always forget my TX22. 8K+ rounds and the only failures were dud rounds. It's incredible.
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>>54156444
>I haven't had a revolver fail to go bang in 40+yrs of shooting.

Well apparently you haven’t shot much because it’s pretty easy to shoot a revolver to the point of malfunction.
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>>54156587
Oh shit nigger that's a bold statement. I'm no top-tier competition shooter but I've got some rounds under my belt. My first M38 had 33K+ rounds through it when I sold it. The firing pin hole was no longer round but oblong and the hammer pin had gouged out a slight wobble in the aluminum frame. It still worked fine but the end was in sight. I sold it for $75(with full disclosure) to my mechanic at the time. I haven't seen him in years as he moved away but I wouldn't be surprised it if was still knocking about in a drawer somewhere in functioning condition. I had a model 10 with over 50K rounds through it shot by me and I bought it used back in the 80s. I gave it to my niece. It still works fine.

But you're right I have never shot a revolver to failure. Other than that first M38 I used to git gud with the smolboi and the model 10 that was my bottom bitch for almost 20years I have too many revolvers that get a share of the round count. I'll probably never kill any of them. I'm not sad about this.
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>>54156722
not him but my S&W 617 ate shit and had to be sent back in for a forcing cone trim and some other stuff at 15k rounds
autoloaders jam and break more often than revolvers but when they do they don't need an Actual Gunsmith to get sorted out
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>>54156587
How many rounds though? You'd have to replace several recoil springs on a autoloader at that point, IE the point of malfunction on autoloaders.
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I get 1 free ruger revolver. (bday present next month... It's from a buddy of mine that is a dealer and specifically obtains ruger for cheap.)
I don't own any to go off of, only shooting my other friends S&W L frame a few times.
Anyone got any suggestions for me to look at? He's basically going to get only 2-3 different ones and let me pick from those.
I really just want something smaller, durable, that I can somewhat conceal, or carry easily around outside. preferably in 357? It just seems silly to me to get a .38 that cant also take 357 for just in case.
Mostly while I'm out in the woods or a few miles from my truck.. just for snakes, rabbid wild dogs, and occasionally we get black bears. I tend to leave the bears alone.. they're pretty cool.
Wouldn't mind being able to conceal carry it at least some of the time tho.

Are the LCR's garbage? They seem like they might be with the plastic housing and all.
Otherwise I'm looking at different SP101s and GP100s. Just weighing out the differences on each's size and weight for carry. Barrel size idk yet. 2.25 or 3 I guess.
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>>54157128
>Are the LCR's garbage?

No. LCRs are fine.
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>>54157121
replacing a recoil spring is end user-level maintenance that takes like 10 seconds
anything that goes wrong with a revolver is going to be way more involved to rectify
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>>54157128
I like my 9mm LCR but if I had to do it again, I'd get the .357 LCR (and shoot .38 out of it exclusively). It's a good gun, light, small, but when you compare it to a P365 or a similar pistol it doesn't make alot of sense unless you are a revolver fanatic.

I'd personally go for a "big iron" type. A fun range gun or woods open carry gun. GP100 with a 4 inch barrel, 6 gets a little hard to carry, it's reliable and will outlast you. Very soft shooting when loaded with .38 Special.

People do conceal carry 4 inch revolvers, they're just about the same length as a government model 1911.
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>>54156722
>>54157121
You guys are misreading what I said, I said malfunction, not failure, and it can happens in as few as 200-300 rounds, that a revolver is too gummed up to work without forcing it into single action. Cylinder hesitates to turn, the indexing pawl gets lazy, etc. I’ve had this happen with both S&W and Ruger revolvers.
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>>54157181
>anything that goes wrong with a revolver is going to be way more involved to rectify
Like what mister revolver expert?
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>>54157220
Oh you know, a small drop in the dirt.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=23XMbn3O-Os

Revolvers are only reliable in a very narrow set of circumstances, only outside that they quickly fail.
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>>54157154
Glad I was mistaken. The pics on their site maybe just don't do it justice.
>>54157198
I've thought about that. I might get something bigger as a later purchase and spend a little more and get something nice as a range revolver. Also I'm weird and feel bad if a friend got me something (more) expensive as a gift.
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>>54157209
>I’ve had this happen with both S&W and Ruger revolvers.
I'm sorry your luck is so bad fren. I have owned guns from every major manufacturer and I've never had one malfunction. My oldest revolver is 92yrs old. My youngest is 2.
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>>54157293
No it's ugly as fuck for sure but it's a gun and it works.
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>>54157398
That’s because you don’t shoot them enough for it to happen, I do.
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>>54157412
Used machines get used and break. Film at 11.

Here I got one for you. See the busted ass gun in pic related?

A "pre-victory" M&P made in 1942 in an early contract for the Brits before S&W went over to full war time production. Originally chambered for the British .38-200(.38S&W) cartridge with a 4, 5 or 6" barrel. It did a tour of WWII, got surplussed back to the US along with a shitload of other victory models. These guns were dirt cheap after the war and a great many of them were converted to fire .38spl(making them more attractive to US buyers) by boring out the cylinders. This job was done with varying techniques and degrees of success. Many also had their barrels shortened and their lanyard holes plugged to make them CCW guns. The variations of custom jobs done on these guns is impressive and you can usually find at least one example on gunbroker any time you look.
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>>54157454
I cleaned it up, Installed a ball/detent in the crane/frame interface and Fitz'd it for giggles. Work just fine with .38S&W or .38spl. I think revolvers are plenty durable.
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>>54157293
You could get the middle ground, the 3 inch LCR which is the sexiest barrel length, but currently .357 LCRxs are unobtainable and whoever has them likes them so much they never are for sale used. .38 3 inch barrels do pop up for sale often.
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>>54157293
See if you can get a 3" Taurus defender out of him instead.
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>>54157483
>>54157454
Now shoot it 500 times in a row without cleaning and see how it functions.

I can do that with my Glock or USP easy, but my Ruger will start misfiring from dirt at that point, no point in you pretending that revolver won’t do the same.
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>>54157688
>Now shoot it 500 times in a row without cleaning and see how it functions.

Why would I do that? When would I need to? Man you're really reaching here. You may have revolver derangement syndrome. Sad. Many such cases.
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>>54157763
>Why would I do that? When would I need to?
Probably never, but if you can't, even when you want to, then it's suggestive of how little margin for error you have, isn't it?
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>>54118677
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Paterson
Ahem
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>>54123365
Do you carry .357s of .38 +Ps? I've always loved the scandium smiths but hear they are fucking unbearable to shoot full powered ammo through
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>>54124670
If it's cold enough that I need thick gloves that can't fit in the trigger guard, I'm probably out hunting or am in a situation a rifle isn't out of place.
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>>54157493
I've decided I'll go with that, or a SP101 in 3", whichever.
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>>54120693
>I unironically think .22lr snubbies should be the default option for most people when it comes to concealed carry. Simple to use, easy to shoot, good capacity, low blast and recoil and cheap to train with.
If only they were as cheap as a hipoint.
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>>54138799
You don't want to look at your sunday best for your /k/ pals ? UnU
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Are there any good break action revolvers?



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