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Skyking Edition

>Resources:

>Free ASVAB Practice Tests
https://www.asvabpracticetests.com/

>Fort Jackson Army Basic Training Guide (Nov. 2020)
https://pastebin.com/yg972vRE (embed) (Short version)
https://pastebin.com/53tsDj90 (embed) (40 page version)

>Special Forces Fitness Guide
http://specialforcesrecruiter.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/THOR3-10-Week-Program.pdf
http://www.stewsmith.com/linkpages/sfart.htm#:~:text=PT%3A%20Every%20other%20day.,of%2040%20to%2050%20reps).

>Professionalsoldiers.com
For all Army SF info.

>https://www.airwarriors.com/community/
>https://mega.nz/folder/ZQhQDLQA#SrCZyqNQiomnG4DsTzcNMg
Naval Aviator forum with info on Navy OCS, as well study guides for ASTB-E

>https://bogidope.com/civilian-to-guard-or-reserve/the-ultimate-military-pilot-career-path-part-1/
Airforce Pilot guide - just do AFROTC, political science major, 4.0 with athletics is auto-acceptance

>Should I go Navy Enlisted Nuke?
No, you'll get cancer and a prolapsed asshole. http://i.imgur.com/FZ0Q9q4.png (embed)
tl;dr: Two year long school with suicidal furries, you never get to leave your boat, zero job prospects.

>Info on sf86
https://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf

>How to get way overqualified physically for BMT/BCT when starting from nothing
https://pastebin.com/yGzadpNZ (embed)

>Before you ask a question, check the FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Rx0nDuga (embed)
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>>53514034
Why not become a fighter pilot or other aircrew? Seems like the best job in the military. I literally don't understand why everyone isn't clammouring to become aircrew.
>better pay
>treated like a rockstar (pls don't be a jerk though)
>cooler uniform
>better bunks, or stay in hotels if airforce
>good job opportunities outside military
>circlejerk about top gun movie
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inb4 crazy people and autistic incel E3's
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>>53534620
I have a handful of gay excuses. For one, I raped my eyesight with books and computer monitors to the point of not being able to decipher the letters on a stop sign from twenty feet away, and as for laser surgery, I'm spooked by the procedure, have no one to serve as a wrangler during the recovery interim, and don't want to be on the receiving end of my parent's gibs any more than I already am. But more importantly, I know fuck-all about aviation, have done fuck-all in relation to it outside of doodling Zeroes suicide bombing rage faces as a middle schooler, and just finished my third year at university as a biochemistry major out of all things.

It just seems too late to get the relevant recommendation letters, study enough about aerodynamics, and raise my PRT scores up to their standards, having not made a single cent at 21 outside of working as a delivery boy one summer in high school. I guess if I don't make it through the NUPOC D.C interviews, I'll give it a shot, but as of now it seems like more trouble than it's worth.
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>>53534620
*clamoring
because they may not meet the medical or academic standards, they may not like the culture, etc.
>t. dropped SNA
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>>53534620
Also, submariners make more with hazard pay. NUPOC in particular showers whoever gets in with E6 pay for up to two and a half years until they graduate uni, with the only conditions being to maintain a GPA above 3.0, passing a biannual PRT, and a monthly sanity check over the phone with their recruiter.

Probably because the work sucks, but the chaperones looked like they had fun.
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>>53534929
there was a guy in my class who was fully qualified to be a pilot, had a pilot contract, then looked at the nuke bonus and did the back of the napkin math and was at NR the next day.
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>>53534768
It's worth the effort dude. I'm a WSO in the process of remustering to Pilot. It's 100% worth it. You'll make great friends, and it's not gonna take the same toll on your body that ground pounding will. There is no job I'd rather do than fly planes, and I didn't know anything about it when I started. I thought I would fail out for sure cause a lot of other people were lifelong aviation lovers, but in the end, so far in my experience, you just have to be really hard working and have a base level of aptitude. 21 is not too late to get started if you're comitted to it.
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>>53534929
Fair enough, and they deserve that good pay. You'd have to pay me a hell of a lot to spend months of my life at sea, underwater, unable to see the sunlight. They earn it.
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>>53534965
what's it like transferring from one commissioned job to another? smooth?
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>>53535154
Easy breezy for me. It's all pensionable time my friend. It's pretty dependent on the support of your CoC, but my CO was very supportive and I think may have pulled some strings for me.
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>>53535202
does the rank carry over?
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>>53535345
not him but yes, you just lose time going back to whatever schoolhouse, I think NFO->Pilot you can skip like 1/3 and go straight into primary but that's unique to air
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>>53534620
>>good job opportunities outside military
Please name one job that a loadmaster can get outside of the military which doesn't pay barely above the poverty level.
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>>53535359
I'm keeping rank, pay, all that stuff.
>>53535405
Ok, don't become a loadie then if that concerns you. You still have free choice of what you apply for. Lots of options.
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>>53535405
i think he was referring to pilots and maintainers, yeah loadmasters/CSO/ABM get fucked
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>>53535443
CSO, WSO, EWO depends, you can get into flight test and go work for Lockheed & Friends
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Joining the coast guard as a commission officer (they liked my ASVAB scores).
What should I know beforehand?
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>>53534963
is he now suicidally furious at himself or was that a well-informed decision on his part?
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>>53535465
>want to be pilot
>don't get pilot
>get next best thing
>work really hard for four years
>make capt
>have to be one of four guys going to Edwards in order to make it in private sector
>have to get engineering masters degree at the same time
navy calls it "No Future Outside" for a reason
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>>53535507
apparently his net worth is high six figures as an O3 and I haven't heard any complaints
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>>53535438
SMA? Boom?
I don't think you know what you're talking about.
>>53535443
Maintainers aren't aircrew.
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>>53535511
:( I guess that's good for retention
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Anyone done ROTC while using the GI bill after finishing an enlistment?
Did you regret it?
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>>53535511
>make captain in 4 years
My man, the rank of Captain is not handed out easily like in the inferior branches. NFOs get out as LCDRs if they exit ASAP unless they fucked up and in that case are plain old LTs. The game plan for NFOs is to network and slide into some sort of corporate job that has almost nothing to do with their service. This is similar to what combat MOS's have to do in order to maintain that high income, and most succeed.
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>>53534965
Give it to me straight, doc.
>1460 SAT, 750 on Math 2 subject test
>3.5ish GPA in mediocre state school
>got straight 99s on MAGE on the ASVAB two years ago, if that means anything
>over 1200 hours in quake live
>beat sword saint isshin pretty easily
but
>barely passing run time (13 min for 1.5 miles), 60-ish push ups, and an ez max plank for about a 210 on the PRT
>zero internships or TA positions to speak of and abject antipathy towards everyone at school will probably keep that as the case for some time
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>>53535559
i was referring to USAF hence Edwards my dude
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>>53535539
I commissioned via OTS, but there was a prior enlisted guy who did ROTC in my tech school.
I don't understand what you're asking. The only reason I'd think one would regret it is if you one day suddenly didn't want to be in the military anymore.
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>>53497422
>anxiety
>potential schizo
unironically start keto and take b vitamins and vitamin d3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hIiixbdx2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDn9SHhTgf8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwGHf22kHmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nllc5CNryhk
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>>53535569
I used to work at the range and TPS as a dev and integrator.
Have you been there recently? If so, we likely have met.
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>>53535569
Excuse me for that fuck up, I forgot you guys had NFOs too

Point remains, if you go NFO then you have to treat it like a dead-end job that pays well.
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>>53535597
absolutely, my buddy is an EWO up at Whidbey and loves his job but has no plans beyond wings plus six
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>>53535521
what vitamin D supplements does he recommend?
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Unironically why do so few people go Coast Guard? You get treated like a human and get the same benefits as the other branches
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>>53535722
rolling around in navy fed blood money
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>>53535727
more selective
not DoD/combat oriented so seen as kind of gay
don't want to be an "aqua cop"
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>>53535727
shit advertising. i didn't even know they were their own military branch until i stumbled upon a webm of the guys pounding on the narco sub as a high schooler

that, and i imagine many eighteen-year-olds see themselves as future FPS protagonists or whatever when considering where to enlist or what academy to apply for.
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>>53535952
ALTO SU BARCO
ALTO SU BARCO A ORA
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Is there an army policy that says based on your rank, you’re only allowed to sign for up to a certain dollar amount of equipment?
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Is 12b a good option in the national guard?
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>>53536061
yes
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>>53536045
Nope. When I was an E3 casual working in the supply room, I was signed for the companys entire property book for $2.5 mil worth of vehicles, weapons, buildings, etc. I actually had to sign over all the property to the commander 8 months after I had already left the unit because I was still signed for all that shit.
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>>53536045
Reenlistment bonuses come and go, I don't think there's really a limit. I know EOD guys during the peak of GWOT were getting around 100k bonuses tho.
>>53536061
It's kinda whatever. You could go to some cool schools like sapper. It's a better gig than infantry at least
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>>53536162
like twice
>tower jump
>water survival course (inflate pants)
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>>53536045
no
t. PFC who was signed for like $10 million as a primary armorer after getting a giant shipment of ENVG-B
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>>53536171
thank fuck
what's the worst you're put through physically, then? just a lot of running or something?
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>>53536313
are you a poor swimmer anon?
yeah you get smoked a couple times but there's limits to what they can do to you esp with female cyber candidates and shit, just show up in shape, yell loud and keep track of what's going on and it's ezpz
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>>53536247
Well that answers my question. I’m in a similar situation. Being an armorer (not by choice) is living hell.
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>>53536162
If you know how to swim, not much. If you do not, they will give you extra time in the pool to catch you up to speed. Funny enough, aviation spends more time training to swim than surface warfare.
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Canadian with math degree how can i contribute to the military industrial complex
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National Guard Warrant here. Going to be flying for the national guard and leave for flight school in a few months. Im a Prior LT thats reverting to warrant. Even though warrant and Guard is absolutely the way to go for army aviation.. I Kinda have mixed feelings because army aviators on reddit outright say to prospective pilots to fly for ANY other branch and drag army aviation through the mud at any opportunity. Took me years of determination and hard work to even be selected and i cant help but just feel a sense of foreboding by the army aviation community thats been difficult for me to digest.. Is Army aviation really so terrible?
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>>53536523
Lrn2Code and work for CAE. I've got a buddy working for them and he loves it. I've met more than one Maths major who engaged in self-learning and they had an easier time finding great positions than most CS majors.
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>>53536341
no, i just hate swimming, especially at our university's rec center. the lanes and the locker room are infested with kickboard-wielding geezers always in the tightest spandex possible, and even if i had access to the far nicer ones exclusive to our sports teams i'm never getting used to chlorine cooking my nose and skin
is there no rucking either?
>>53536484
how do the quals differ there?
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>>53536454
Not him, but being an armorer is easy as fuck. Only shit part is being on call. I just chill in the arms room all day on the couch watching anime with the vault door closed so no one bothers me. If you make buddy buddy with your BN physec officer you will never get a surprise inspection. Just gotta keep your appt letters up to date, the 701/702 filled out, the monthly alarm checks done, and make sure key control does their part to not fuck up a good thing.
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>>53536555
Thanks
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>>53536588
No rucking per se, but you will be walking and running up and down hills with around 35lbs on your back a few times during indoc phase so if you live in a flat state you should do some routine like stairs to target that underutilized part of your body.

Swimming at OCS is only a 3rd class swim qualification, so you will jump in the water from a high platform, swim 50 yards in any way you like, and float in the water for 5 minutes. It's very easy and if you cannot train for this prior to joining then the instructors will help you out and get you where you need to be. I have never heard of an officer candidate being removed from training due to sub-par swimming performance. The #1 reason candidates are involuntarily removed is poor running and I can promise you that they will not waste their time trying to help you get your running time down if you show up unprepared.
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>>53536658
neat, but what kinda swimming do you do for aviation in particular
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Anyone have an opinion or experience with the Coast Guard direct commission helicopter pilot program?
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>>53536619
Sounds chill, but it doesn’t sound like your company likes to sign out the majority of their guns almost every day.
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>>53536871
Army Pilot here, Pretty straight forward. If you are a qualified military aviator from a different branch (usually rotary wing) and under 35 you can transfer to the coast guard to fly. The vast majority of military pilots doing this were Army Aviators with the 6 year pilot service obligation(thus able to make the 35y/o age cutoff).
However within the last year or two the Army bumped it up to 10 years. Unfortunately i just barley missed the cuttoff for the 6 year and am stuck with the 10 year...
With the 10 year service obligation now being manditory for Army Aviators i have no fucking clue how this Coast guard program is going to continue.

Anyone here have experience switching branches while still under contract? I would like to fly for the Army for a while longer but im entertaining the possibility of transfering to another branch before my 10 year service obligation is done. Im Guard BTW
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>>53534505
>>53534640
**REPOST**
>be me
>filling out MEPS paperwork
>asks if I have any scars
>put no
Am I fucked?
I have scarring on my penis from when I was circumcised, but I didn't tell my recruiter.

I found out they look at your penis at MEPS, so they'll see the scar on my penis?
Will I be disqualified?

Can you join the Air Force without a foreskin?
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>>53534505
How does tank mos work? Do you go into your role I.e do you sign up for tank comander or tank gunner loader driver etc

Or do you start off as a leader or some other position and then slowly work your way up?
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>>53540005
Army tanker MOS is 19K. Pretty sure position in the crew is based on rank, i.e. you're a loader/driver first and then a gunner and then a commander with crosstraining on each role
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>>53540312
Tanks a lot
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>>53536061
I was a 12b in the late 2000s

I did route clearance in Afghanistan and that shit really fucked with me, lost a few guys and saw some really awful stuff

It sounds like a lite EOD (or even like a spicy infantry) to the uninformed, but really you're gonna be chasing mines and IEDs.

That said you do get to play with explosives and build things so that's kinda cool
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>>53537469
I never thought of this do you have to tell them about your scarred penis?
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>>53535493
is that really all it took? what of the rest of the application process?
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>>53535727
worse job selection
harder boot camp
no recruiters anywhere, no advertising or marketing
less slots
slower promotions
if you get stuck on a cutter or white boat you're basically a slave with only marginally better conditions than some surface navy serf

>>53536588
RUCKING IN THE NAVY
LMAO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA4e0NqyYMw

actual LITTY recruiting video my fellow millennials
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>>53535727
Boils down to lack of advertising compared to the Navy, not to mention CG will always have a certain image of being knee deep beach police.
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>>53542045
>>53534505
is there a mos that guarantees you die?

what's a mos that's really dangerous and what's that really safe?
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Assuming I'm in good physical shape. Is 26 too old to realistically

1. join as an infantry officer?
2. join as special forces?

Be honest.
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>>53544682
No and no. High-speeds being in their mid-30s is not uncommon. But you need to be very actively on top of your physical fitness to keep up with these juiced college age kids. If you're just going officer you're not anywhere near the age limit.
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>>53534505
I have an ucategorized discharge because of tism, is there any hope to appeal the decision so I can reenlist or am I screwed?
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>>53544930
Keep watching militarytimes and such. The dod is signaling that some things may be waiverable in the near future.
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>Just got a call from my recruiter.
>MEPs doesn't want me because I had an IEP in middle and early highschool along with in middle school being medicated for ADHD I didn't have.
>They said it was the IEP that disqualified me and there's no chance for a waiver.
>Said to try with other branches.
Is there any branch I can try if the Army won't take me?
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>>53545914
Ask your recruiter which branch has lower standards. He obviously is stupid enough to not lie for you to MEPS for such weak ass physical issues.

>told my recruiter I had asthma as teenager
>said he didn’t hear that and neither will MEPS

Best thing he ever did for me.
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>>53545959
What I'm concerned is that I ddin't tell him about the IEP at all and the meds were before he said I'd need a waiver for so I'm worried any other branches will find it too.
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>>53537469
>>53542936
>be american
>have scarred penis
Why?
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>>53544625
Petroleum Supply Specialist (fueler)
BM in the Navy

>>53544682
those are both very typical
>>53544930
yes after 9 months or whatever
>>53545914
Marines will waive anything
Also just go to a different recruiter desu that one just seems lazy
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>>53546026
Explain IEP to me first. Is this a question of how high your IQ is? Cause the military ironically has an IQ requirement.
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Why are they so unresponsive?
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>>53548429
The VA healthcare system is a perfect example of what would happen if the US socialized healthcare for everyone.
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>>53548442
You don't even have to look at the VA. Just look at what a shit show medicare is.
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>>53537469
Literally just came from a recruiter today, they said if the scar isn't above two inches don't worry. Not sure if that helps you, but if it's a small scar you should be fine.
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Any update from the anon that was going to ask his supervisor out on a date? Been thinking about that and hoping for a happy ending.
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>>53548429
My friend has been trying to call the VA Clinic in Rancho Cucamonga for weeks. Their phone system is broken, you can't call direct and the VA operators just give you the run around.
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>>53548273
> yes after 9 months or whatever
I was told that wasn’t the case for me but I’ll try to get more clarification soon, hopefully I’ll be able to go back
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What's the acceptance rate for applicants to Marine OCS? My GPA looks like it will fall somewhere between 3.6-3.8.
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>>53548815
what's your PFT
ground? air? reserve?
>it's like 75% from the board
grades like that you could hate your life less and go navy or air force
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What is the best officer positions in any branch of the military?
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>>53549329
Astronaut, any branch
Fighter pilot, Navy/Marines/AF
Coast Guard pilot
Army helicopter pilot (as a warrant officer)
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>>53549348
What about NFO? I would rather be in the back seat honestly.
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>>53537469
They honestly don't even care that much if they find it anyway, they just write it down so you can't claim in as medical later.
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>>53549386
>"the army cut off the tip of my penis, therefore I am claiming 80% disability"
>>53549383
if you want to ride bitch it's fine i guess
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>>53548273
>Marines will waive anything
>Also just go to a different recruiter desu that one just seems lazy
Thanks bro. He just told me MEPS doesn't want to speak to me which seemed suspicious. Will I have to start all over with the enlistment procress if I start anew?
>>53548334
It stands for Individualized Education Plan IIRC. Basically I had one because my mother's an insane cunt and put me on meds for ADHD I didn't have. I don't think it'd be an IQ problem cause I scored in the 80's on the ASVAB. I didn't think the ADHD stuff would matter since it was from before i was 14.
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>>53549733
>>53548273
The usmc is at a higher category than the army and always have been. If the army can't waive it, then the naval department will not.
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>>53549959
Well fuck. The navy and the AF have lower standars right?
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>>53550356
no.
Army>Navy=Muhreens>Air Force=Space Force>Coast Guard
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>>53549733
Try a different recruiter yours sounds new or isn’t motivated enough to get you in. I don’t see how ahdh can drop you. Get a referral from your private doctor saying you don’t have ahdh and MEPS will take you.
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>>53550434
Thanks bro. But what I'm worried about is that he said it was the IEP not the ADHD. His exact words were I had an IEP with it which he claims is an instant disqualification and wouldn't even talk to me about a waiver. Which I find weird because I told him I've never been diagnosed. But thanks I'll try talking to a different recruiter because I genuinely have no fucking clue what to do with my life if this doesn't work out. Like I asked earlier am I going to have to start completely over with the paperwork and shit?
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I'm going to try to get my Masters Degree while in service. Which branch generally gives the most free time so I can study for classes while in service?
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>>53550572
if you're a USAF occifer they'll literally set aside time for you to do correspondence courses
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>>53550479
Did your first recruiter even start paperwork with you? Was this like a 5 minute sit down and you mentioned IEP then the recruiter told you to fuck off?
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>>53550614
I did all the paperwork that says stuff like "I've never done drugs" and "I'm not a terrorist". I fucked up and mentioned I was medicated for ADHD when I was younger like I said earlier but he told me that since it was before the cutoff age I wouldn't even need a waiver. Today he called me and told me that MEPs says I don't qualify.
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>>53550639
Get a different recruiter. MEPS can waiver almost anything. You need your private doctor to verify you don’t have ahdh anymore. You got a shitty recruiter that doesn’t want to do the paperwork for a waiver.
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>>53536898
No i definitely sign shit out everyday. But thats only twice a day.
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>>53550433
The navy, usmc, air force, and space force are currently all the same category. The air force has a different enlisted accessions process due to having more applicants, so they can easily tell people to take shit job x or fuck off. The air force is going to get even more discriminating since they have to drop 5000 bodies by next year; they're only recruiting for churn right now, they don't necessarily need anybody.
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>>53550582
More information, please. I have never heard of this and google returns nothing helpful.
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>>53550681
Thanks bro. I was talking to my dad and he had similar suspicions but I'm a dumbass and just thought "Dude's been out of the military since Berlin was two places it's probably just changed". But it seems like that's the consensus here too.
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>>53550750
TA
IDE
JPME (really more war-college stuff)
If you teach AFROTC/USAFA they'll send you to grad school fully funded
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>>53550772
I got DQd from MEPS for asthma at the San Diego medical center. Tried to enlist two years later and got a referral from my doctor saying I didn’t have asthma. Joined like a month after that doctors visit, just don’t give up you’ll make it in.
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>>53550817
Thanks bro.
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>>53550794
I meant specifically the part about time set aside for advanced education. I'm of course aware of the afit scholar programs, but that is an extremely competitive process.
I thought you meant that there was some way you can get command directed time off for school.
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>>53550925
it's really common to use TA for like an MBA or MPA, you'll have the time during the day to do it, that will be set aside depending on command and billet
>Army: in the field
>Muhreens: on a boat/in the field
>Navy: on a boat
>USAF/USSF: on a base with wifi
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Should I go Navy officer or Coast Guard officer?
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>>53549348
Why warrant for Army Pilot?
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>>53551052
because army officers have to do gay shit like paperwork
>>53551049
do you like shooting mexicans or sucking cock
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>>53535562
Idk, I'm not a recruiter lol
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>>53551052
Commissioned officers end up having to do command time at some point and moving away from flying. Warrants just fly.
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>>53550985
>>53550582
>>53550572
Should I join Coast guard if I am also planning on going to college at the same time?
I figured the fact that you spend most of your time in the states should make it easier.
My plan is to get my Genetics masters over the course of 3 to 4 years (only taking one class at a time) while also doing CG.
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>>53551136
have you considered...the national guard?
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>>53551075
>>53551085

Do the officer pilots of other branches have that same issue as Army Pilots? (Command/non flying/Gay paperwork)?
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>>53551208
Navy/USMC pilots deal with it at home and shove it all on the chiefs/gunnys when deployed; O-4 and above you're flying less than you're doing paperwork
USAF pilots have bullshit ground jobs like "coffee mess officer" and "scheduling officer" where they're only actually responsible for one aspect of the squadron while they have entire career fields for maintenance, but again O-4/O-5 you start flying less and doing admin stuff more
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>>53551192
Yes, but I am going as an officer and the Nat Guard doesn't have as good officer positions.
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made it past meps lying about a medical issue thats on my record how fucked am I
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If 350F anon is here I got a question for you. I'm currently filling out an SF-86 form and I'm at the employment history part. If I quit a job without giving notice, like just never showing up to work for that job again, would I put that down as quitting or getting fired for not showing up to work?
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>>53550985
>you'll have the time during the day to do it
This is what I'm specifically asking about.
I know of no program where you are allotted time for school during the work day as an air force officer.
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>>53551277
>weekend OCS
sounds like you're a fag
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>>53551974
Schizo has terrible reading comprehension.
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>>53551974
>Weekend
Where did you get that idea?
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>>53551453
35F here. Just put you quit. The CAF doesn't really care about things like that, they just want a record of who you are and where you've been for the past 10+ years. Unless you walked out of your job with corporate secrets or robbed the till or something, they're not gonna give a shit.
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>>53552265
https://ngmnpublic.azurewebsites.us/accelerated-officer-school-benefits-guard-proves-to-be-good-option-for-some-candidates/
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I saw this video and I can’t stop thinking about it. How do I join the glowies?

Is there like some way to pass the ASVAB that would put me on track to join psy ops?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA4e0NqyYMw
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>>53552265
Some people get fed into the army national guard state ocs program since federal ocs doesn't have enough slots.
It has like a 60% attrition rate because it is long as fuck and people get annoyed with being hazed for extended periods of time and self-eliminate.
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>>53497422
>>53535583
>Latent schizophrenia
Join anyway. If you develop schizophrenia on active duty you will be medically retired with a hefty disability rating for life (you will permanently lose your security clearance though)...
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What's it like being an intelligence officer?
Should I do go Intel should I go navy or Space Force? I have a friend who is a space force officer and wants me to join him.
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>>53537469
>>53542936
>>53546821
>>53548560
>>53549386
>>53549428
>Can you join the Air Force without a foreskin?
Bad fucking idea. I was in OSUT with a guy who lied about his penis scars. Two DA civilians pulled him out of class one day and we never saw him again.
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How hard do you think it would be to do UPT for the reserves and then DD-368 to the AD army at O-3?

(Prior service)
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>>53552799
Impossible. Nobody is going to pay for you to get fully qualified and then lose you. They'd treat you like shit for the rest of your contract if you even mentioned this.
Do you understand how this is would be insanely insulting?
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>>53552799
why the fuck would you do that
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>>53535583
>>53552481
don't even know what happened last thread or what you're talking about, but if someone in your family is schizo does that make everyone latent schizo?
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Been out for 10 years but I think I wanna go back in as an officer in the army

Talk me out of it
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>>53553147
If you dont have a job making $50k+ then do it.
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>>53553147
Do you have a shit job or something? Why would you consider being paid ~70k to babysit retards?
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>>53553147
>ack my knees
>ack my back
>ack i'm babysitting actual retards
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>>53553176
Fuck it dude, go for it
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>>53553092
Under the right (wrong) conditions of extreme stress (the kind of stress where you can't sleep for 4 days straight, can't remember your own passwords, teeth start wiggling, methylation of the brain, etc.) almost anyone can develop schizophrenia temporarily because the brain is literally cooked. Having family members with permanent schizophrenia nearly guarantees that it develops permanently even under less stressful situations.
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>>53553283
>kind of stress where you can't sleep for 4 days straight,
someone like that should definitely avoid the military where this is unavoidable. it's pretty much the first thing they make you do
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Is being a cargo Pilot comfy? Like C-5, C-17, C-130? Not interested in being a Cargo pilot, just curious.
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>>53553283
>>53553400
You're both underestimating people. First of all it's very rare to go that long without sleep, even if just a little bit at a time. Eventually your brain is actually partially sleeping and then it will just force you asleep. Secondly, if someone is in that situation where they need that strength they will have it. It's how prehistoric people survived whole being hunted for days on end by sabertooth tigers that had to eat them or face starvation.
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>>53553400
That's the good stress. I'm talking about the bad stress. Besides, the bar isn't set as high as you make it seem, and for good reason.
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>>53553682
meh, you're on the road a lot
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>>53553732
Why would you be on the road alot if you're a pilot?
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I'm 28. I have my fixed wing private, instrument, commercial, multi-engine rating. College grad but in humanities from non-target school and worked at a retail job as my only professional experience. What are the odds of me getting a fighter slot for the guard?
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>>53553682
>>53553732
>>53553783
>Is being a cargo Pilot comfy?
Yes. So comfy that zoomers don't even want to fly fighters/bombers anymore. You will make up to $800/day extra in "Per Diem" because you decided to status your C-5/C-17 as broken in an exotic overseas locale. While waiting for your plane to be fixed, you just spend 2 weeks fugging eastern euro prostitutes and getting shitfaced with your crew. Bonus points: status another part broken as soon as that part is fixed. C-130s: Not comfy because replace the overseas locale with Fayetteville, NC (guy central) and replace the eastern euro prostitutes with your hand and the terrible lotion in the Army lodging that dries up after 5 seconds. C-5s and C-17s are literally the military's hidden revenue/vacation program for professional slackers.
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>>53553858
they might say yes
>they probably won't
why not AMC?
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>>53553686
>>53553727
you're saying there's people like that actually in the military? that would be a massive liability
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>>53550356
>>53549959
>>53550433
Marines will break any rule to get you in
I've seen them send convicted felons to MEPS (and then get yelled at for doing it by staff)
>>53549959
>The usmc is at a higher category than the army and always have been
is the most boot shit I've ever heard and you've probably never stepped foot in a recruiter's office
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Do I need a comp sci degree to become an information officer?
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>>53552320
By joining as an Army 17C or 35N
or Navy CTN
Psyops isn't what they advertise, but if you want to do what they advertise join as the above MOS/rates

>>53552490
>I have a friend who is a space force officer and wants me to join him.
that's a no brainer, do that, you already have an in
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>>53553996
Degree is almost irrelevant to be honest with you
Just get a 4.0 and you're more likely to get what you want, with the time you save not doing a hard major get your PT stats up, run more, lift, and do club stuff and other leadership stuff to become a leader so you don't get peered out and receive good peer reviews to get the branch you want
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>>53553914
wtf I want to go transport now.
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>>53551136
what the fuck is a genetics masters
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>>53553914
>C-130s: Not comfy because replace the overseas locale with Fayetteville, NC
130s are used for all RONs, west pacs, kelly, andrews...
Not sure what you're talking about, anon.
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Still salty I used all my free time to get ready for last officers Air Force board with my commercial pilots license and high ranking family history, great scores, only to be picked over a guy that I talked too with half the experience. Forever big sad, at least I’m on the track for that sweet sweet Corp pilot job instead. Make sure you fucks get the highest scores you can so you might be able to avoid same shit
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>>53554154
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>big sad
yeah you deserve everything coming to you
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>>53554154
>current AF direction is to pick up underqualified minorities for UPT rather than CFII's
i can't see how this could end badly
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>>53554188
Is that seriously what they are trying to do? Man we are in for a show
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>>53554188
the neat thing with submarines is that the public perception of the work is so horrible that it's among the last things affirmative action wants to fuck over. more hazard pay for me

yeah i'm still here
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>>53554206
>"Well, Mikey went to Ohio State and has a commercial multi-engine certificate, but remember he has an advantage in that he was able to pay for those ratings, while Tyrone here was on the football team. Tyrone is a leader because he was a starter on the football team and he has a 3.5 in kinesiology, so let's give him a shot at UPT; i'm sure an NFL prospect can figure out a T-38."
>"oh, Mikey, you're still here? Uh, better luck next time, you wanted to go to the airlines anyway, so enjoy making $22k a year as a 135 SIC"
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>>53554245
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>>53553938
What's AMC?
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>>53553858
>>53554154
>>53554245
Sounds like I'm fucked then.
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>>53554335
air mobility command-cargo and tankers
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>>53554308
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>>53554375
I'm only interested in flying fighters.
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>>53554448
you'd have a better shot if you went AD
>you'd have the best shot if you went Navy AD
good luck bro
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>>53554448
but what does shaniqua get to crash into the south china sea?
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>>53553980
>you're saying there's people like that actually in the military? that would be a massive liability
Of course there are, there always have been. To conduct screening with the high level of scrutiny you desire; would outweigh the cost of initial enlistment for one boot troop and thus it is impractical. It would essentially be like requiring NASA astronaut physicals for your Little League team. No matter how much MEPS and the branch Surgeon Generals virtue signal and enact silly measures like pulling AHLTA autocite of military brats and--now--MROAD for the entire population, people will always get through and this is a good thing.
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>>53554364
Naw man, sometimes we just get unlucky, I would try anyway like I did. Worst comes to worst we all cfi for 2-3 years and then work up the pole for the airlines and reap the rewards. I’m sure looking back 7 years from now making a nice lump sum we will laugh at the fact we wanted to join the worlds greatest minority chairforce
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>>53554245
I guess when you're looking to cope on being an inferior candidate, you grasp at whatever seems feasible to you.
Maybe you said some trigger phrase that made it obvious that you were an autist.
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>>53554725
post wings
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>>53554745
I doubt you'd want to see them as they'd be cyber wings.
Brb, gotta sign another 65k 3-year commitment. Have fun with your attempts at being a sky bus driver.
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>>53554971
Can I have money
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I'm scared of flying and don't know how to swim. Should I join the airforce or the navy?
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>>53555147
Sure.
Go get a degree in computer science, IT, or computer engineering. Get at least a 3.4 gpa. Apply to be a cyber officer. Get selected. Apply for riot at UCT. Make bank. Decide whether you want to chase money as a civilian or be a military IOT.
You're welcome.
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>>53544682
I'm 32 going to selection in a couple months. Stop making me feel old.
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>>53554535
hows a someone with that predisposition even make it through training? i thought its supposed to weed them out
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>>53555412
I bet you remember a time before 9/11.
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>>53555473
In basic training there will always be separations fodder who don't amount to anything even in civilian life. And people who quit their (((medications))) cold turkey before shipping off and can't hide their withdrawal. But there is nothing specifically designed to catch latent schizophrenics. Remember, a predisposition is just that--a predisposition. You don't walk up to a 5 year old and flag him for heart disease, Alzheimer's, and osteoporosis.
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>>53555412
I'm 30 and enlisting. Still debating if I shouldn't bitch out at the last moment, my recruiter is going to be so fucking pissed if I do but god damn I really feel like a failure, being a neet arguably is more dignified than a middle aged e3 doing menial chores.
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Considering joining the army. What are the regulations regarding when I can wear my fursuit?
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>>53556748
>18x/Rep63
You're not wrong, being a 30 year old E-3 is something people will poke you for even past basic and AIT, I specifically hated you old farts for getting uppity about taking commands from little old e-5 me, wasted no time starting paperwork to get you back in line, it was the only thing that worked, so for the love of god either go officer, SF, or some high speed MI MOS, avoid being the old man in the young mans game
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Coast Guard, Navy or Airforce /k/?
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>>53557721
This. As an 18x I faced so much shit all the way through my pipeline up until selection, now everyone treats me like a fucking normal human. It's literally the only good reason to join after 28.
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>>53558943
Coast guard does some badass shit, not going to lie. If I ever reenlist I may go Coast Guard.

Be aware they have few slots for cool jobs and you've got to get a higher ASVAB than other branches, also helps to have a degree.

Navy is a fucking joke right now, Airforce is pretty Kino but you'll be more bored than other branches.
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Which branches have the least and most black people?
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>>53555152
take solace in the fact you won't be flying or swimming in either one for starters
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>>53559504
Coast Guard has the least, Marines probably the most. Navy has its own issues, like all the Phillipinos who form weird gangs and shit like that.
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>>53559752
Space force might take the cake for least, idk they don't have any demographic stats up yet. curiously women make up 20% of enlisted and 22% of officers simultaneously in space force
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Hey guys. I’m 18 and going to college in the fall. The college I’m attending is in the same state I live in now. Should I enlist in the national guard?
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>>53559894
Duh, it’s a net positive overall. You do have to sign a six year contract if you want the college gibs but it’s literally only one weekend a month so it’ll be well worth the investment
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>>53560149
Ok. How hard is basic training in the national guard?
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>>53560409
Basic in all branches is designed for anyone to pass provided they don't quit.
It isn't hard in the slightest.
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>>53559373
I have a degree and I was a math and English teacher for like 4 years so I think I will do good on the ASVAB.
Thanks anon. My logical brain has been saying Coast Guard but Mecha anime and Jojos part 8 has made me always think the NAVY was cool
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Which ranks get the coolest uniform?
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Serious question, how do I get a shaving profile that will allow me to have a 1 inch long beard?

Hard mode: I'm not black
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>>53560867
I vote for usmc officer dress blues, the navy dress whites are a close second for me.
All the other uniforms of the other branches are ugly to me.
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How much is a full rock load and what's the best way to train for it? What's a good deadlift max to have
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>>53560893
Religious exemptions. You just say you're pagan or something, and you have a chance at them letting you grow out your beard

(Source: several of my soldiers have a shaving profile thanks to claiming to be pagan or something in between)
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>>53561298
>You just say you're pagan
how do they fall for this?
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>>53561298
Who do I say it to? The chaplain? Do I have to "officially" convert somehow or will the chaplain do it for me?
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>>53560867
>>53560949
I used to really like the marine dress blues but after seeing them nearly daily I can't stand them anymore, it just looks tacky to me now. I prefer the marine alphas and the army agsu
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>>53561468
The enlisted blues are a bit much, especially for SNCOs since the larger rank and hash marks stand out in a gaudy fashion. That is why I like the officer blues much more, the simple colors portray more of a professional military appearance without going full retard like the air force service dress which looks like an old timey train engineer's uniform. The black cross-body belt is hot shit as well, it is the only uniform that women look good in imo.
I have never liked enlisted service alphas for the same reason, the red makes them look stupid.
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>>53560409
Lol national guard doesn't have a separate basic retard. It's normal army training all around.
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>>53560718
Navy is having major problems with morale, more suicides than ever. Steer clear.

>>53561260
45 pounds. Don't go over this. You need a 405 max and 340 for 3.
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>>53560718
I joined the army because muh 40k bonus but looking back I wish I went navy/marines, something about working on a giant hunk of metal with the lads while traveling across the ocean sounds fun to me
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>>53562064
I agree. It's like a big adventure. At least in theory.
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If I join the navy do I get Wifi? I want to take online classes while serving
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>>53561931
>You need a 405 max and 340 for 3.
That's nuts. Are you saying every soldier does that?
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>>53562463
he said max dipshit
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>>53535562
You have better stats than I do and I got into OCS, just score well on the ASTB. Just start working out now for it.
-SNFO waiting for primary
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>>53536740
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TnXpya7YSPw
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>>53561260
Most I carried was 115 lbs, but a lot of people I know have carried more
The only real way to really get better at rucking is rucking, though training legs helps
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Soldierbros, what are the odds I'll make it to Brigadier General if I work my ass off and spend the next 30 years of my life devoted to the Army?

srs answers pls
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>>53563525
Are you a 20 year old rooner?
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>>53563525
Jokes on you. Hokas are $200.
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>>53563575
Nope my best event has always been leg tucks, may they rest in peace
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Foreigner looking to join us army here. I'm a 21y old man from Serbia and I was preparing for the past few years to get in the shape needed to join the army special forces (Yes i know i can't just start there but I just mean the physical strength and endurance standard). As I believe to be prepared, how exactly does one join without the citizenship? Also are there any others here who have done the same? I don't have any immediate family there and would be going with only a few thousand dollars from savings. I am also prepared to leave everything behind and start a new life there focusing on getting to some special forces unit. What I want from you is some sort of advice from people who have done something similar.
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>>53564308
Im not sure about the immigration process for you, but in the United States all males must be circumcised to join the military. Its a bit outdated but its a medical/hygene thing. Not sure if you are circumcised or not as a serb, they usually check at MEPS.
Anyone here have experience in getting a waiver here for it? Will the military pay?
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>>53563734
abject autism has led me to a routine of 5 minute planks before each meal and at least 40km of barefoot running per week and i wouldn't have it any other way
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>>53564519
Am I an idiot for having rest days for abs? Is it actually better progress to just plank daily?
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>>53564735
no idea, i just up the ante on daily push-ups/planks/runs until i'm in enough pain to warrant taking it relatively easy

it's definitely working, going from not even passing a self-conducted PRT this january to where I am now
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>>53562959
Where did your recommendation letters come from?
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>>53553981
>Marines will break any rule to get you in
>I've seen them send convicted felons to MEPS (and then get yelled at for doing it by staff)
Fuck I know my dad will be beyond dissapointed in me if I go MUHREENS but if that's my only option after Army, Navy, and AF so be it.
>>53553914
How hard is it to become a cargo pilot? I've always wanted to fly but can't afford college.
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>>53553981
>is the most boot shit I've ever heard and you've probably never stepped foot in a recruiter's office
Post blues, fgt.
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I went by the recruiting office (army) today and every poster they had involved some short brown female who just hopped the border trying to look intimidating similar to pic rel. What's up with that?
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>>53565166
stay out of supermarkets
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>>53564308
give up now
>t. croatian navy seal
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>>53565296
Why? I really don't see any future for myself here and this has been my dream for a long time. How are you doing now and why did you leave?
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>>53565180
>just don't buy food
Retard advice and it wasn't at a supermarket anyway
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>>53534505
I want to be a US Army Combat Medic.
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>>53534620
As someone who probably could have done it and didn't go that route the main reason is that I just didn't want to spend my life flying planes. It's really that simple.

I don't know that many aviators who straight out regret doing it but I know a lot who did something else the first chance they got.

As for "aircrew" who aren't actual pilots, it's kind of hit or miss whether your skills are worth anything outside the military.
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>>53536541
tl;dr no.

There are some real tangible differences between the branches: since pilots in other branches are commissioned officers they generally are getting paid more, the Army might expect you to live in worse field conditions too. HOWEVER:

The main thing that "sucks" about Army aviation is that you have lower prestige within the service than in the Navy or Air Force. Flyers run the Air Force (obv) and to a considerable extent the Navy as well. This might sound petty but it really fucks with some guys' heads. However, if you're the kind of guy who's willing to resign a commission to fly as a warrant this isn't going to bother you at all.
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>>53566567
>you have lower prestige within the service than in the Navy or Air Force
It is the same thing in the usmc. People acknowledge that it is a cool job, but if you aren't infantry then you're considered to be support and are a second class citizen.
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>>53561322
>>You just say you're pagan
>how do they fall for this?
EO will end your career on the spot if you make a wrong step in that direction so they just go along with it.
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>>53563525
Somewhere between 1-5%
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>>53566685
Better than I thought, either way retiring as a Colonel wouldn't be bad either. I can't wait to be that grumpy asshole veteran who always talks about how many chinks he killed back in WW3.
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>>53565009
I was a bit of an autist and didn't know anyone so the only letter of rec I got was from my priest since I was always helping out at church. I meant it when I say the only thing for aviation that matters is your ASTB score, mine was really really good.
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>>53567475
so how did you study for it?
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How's the USMC reserves?
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Can someone give a QRD on federal reserves vs national Guard?
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>>53564308
Start off getting a green card or citizenship here first, you cannot join without at least living here. Second, you're not going into special forces off the cuff, in your circumstances you'll have to do a couple years big army and get your citizenship papers in order so you can try out for SF, reason being you need a top secret clearance, and you'll be scrutinized heavily for foreign influence. I can't advise you more beyond this, but I've known several guys in group to originate from different countries, it's possible, but you should take it one step at a time, and contact a recruiter to see what they can do for you.
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Not sure how hard I just fucked myself but hell, might asl well tell you guys about it.

Long story short, washed out of MEPS for a drug/alcohol offensive but am back in the system going into take the ASVAB and go to MEPS again. Bascially what happened was I accidentally dosed myself at a party thinking I was taking a hit out of a nicotine vape but it turned out to be cannabis. I dIdn't realize until I lost my shipdate and needed to get a clean drugtest at MEPS to get back into a place where I could reapply with a waiver.

Fast forward a year or so, waiver is available everything is going smoothly and my recruiters tell me this:. : Hey man, there are new rules, they're going to look at your full medical history so don't lie on your medical forms this time, just tell us everything." I ask if Im ACTUALLY supposed to tell them about my ADD prescriptions as a child and they tell me yes. I look around and ask several other recruiters in the office to confirm this and they all tell me yes.

So thats what I did. I fucking checked yes on taking ADD medication in the past and Im worried that I fucked myself. The only reason I did it was that it was the same recruiter I had from the start who told me to lie about it the first time, then telling me NOT to do it because the rules had changed.
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>>53570816
I should specify that this is for US Army
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>>53570816
You fucked yourself. New medical records system checks prescriptions going back 2-4 years afaik but if you identify yourself as having taken meds then they'll find it.
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>>53570749
Reserves = Trash
Guard = Cheat codes for life
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>>53570851
They said as long as it was more than a few years ago then it was fine.
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Anybody got protips for maintaining pace over long distances while rucking? Training up for the Norwegian Foot March and I can do 9 miles of the 18.5 in right about 2 hours but I'm pretty much gassed at that, no idea how to get the other 9.5 out at any kind of appreciable pace.
Do I just need to start doing longer rucks and chugging dick in terms of pace until my legs adapt?
Weight for the NFM is only 25lbs so that's not really a factor.
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>>53570886
Sincerely doubt it. Should have just lied.
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>>53570862
Why?
They're both 1 to 3 days a month. How are they different?
Plus I wanna fly fighters but Georgia Air National guard doesn't have any.
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>>53560893
Drop a tow bar on your foot in the motorpool and hope your medics are asleep at the wheel writing your profile.
Yes, this actually happened and yes, it was a permanent shaving profile.
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>>53570919
Air nasty girls might be different but many states have extra incentives to national guardsmen (school, vacation days, etc) while being in the reserves is literally just being too much of a pussy to go active army - and you're owned by the army so you're a piece of shit in their eyes.
You could really just walk into a national guard recruitment office and ask them what they have that reserves doesn't.
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>>53570904
You know what? Fuck you, I choose not to believe you. If they lie to everyone about what medical stuff to tell them, and also don't take anyone who was prescribed. ADD medication then no wonder the Army isn't able to recruit anyone.
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>>53570958
You aren't even wrong, the army has been fucking itself on recruitment standards ever since covid hit and it didn't help they adopted the new medical records check program around the same time.
But your dumbass decided to do the research after you already identified yourself for taking 'tism skittles, not me. So be mad at yourself.
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>>53570989
I did the research BEFORE. I lied my first time. at MEPS at the request of my recruiters. And then a few years later they say. "Okay I know we said to lie last time, DO NOT lie this time because they will know, they check your entire medical background."

If Ive been off the medication for 10 years then what does it even matter?
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>>53570950
Is reserves/national guard Easier on married families?
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>>53534505
What's the officer enlistment path look like for someone with a chemistry PhD? Do any branches want PhDs to be glowies?
t. halfway-done chemistry grad student
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>>53571009
Anon I don't write MEPS' sop. Common knowledge is that ADHD meds = no go at this time, return to psg for retraining. That *may* have changed with the new medical records checks but I deeply doubt it. The real question here is A: why you listened to a goddamn thing your recruiter told you and B: why you broke the cardinal rule of lying, which is to always maintain the lie.

>>53571019
Can't say for sure since I'm active. Almost certainly so, though.
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>>53571033
Your degree does not matter for officer, just apply for your branches' equivalent of OCS. Your grades do matter for making you more competitive for initial selection, but I know a bunch of officers who went into like biochemical engineering or some shit and do nothing related to that at all. STEM is generally preferred over libarts I believe but even that's not hard and fast.
Go to a recruiter at your school and tell them you want to go ROTC or, if that won't work with your schedule, ask them about commissioning after your degree.
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>>53571095
Anon, I'm not talking about a BS, I'm 24, I'm getting a postgraduate degree, I got my BS 3 years ago. If enlistment for officers is no different with a BS vs a PhD, I'll probably just look at lockmart or military research or something.
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>>53571112
Preeeeety sure you can't commission as anything higher than 2LT.
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>>53571061
Well I dont think thats true at all. What IVE been told, if that last time I took it is over a certain amount of time then it's not a problem.
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>>53571112
>officer enlistment
there's a word for that
also
https://www.navy.com/careers/biochemistry
there are some commissioned careers that require a doctorate degree
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>>53571153
Alright. I thought I had read somewhere you could come in at like, O-4 or O-3. Probably not a thing.

>>53571174
Yeah I'm kinda dumb, sorry. That's cool though. Thanks for the link anon.
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>>53571182
Apparently physicians, doctors, lawyers and a few other specialized jobs can commission in as 03-04 in certain roles depending on the branch. First I'd heard of it.
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>>53571182
no prob. no idea what you'll be doing though, or how medical stuff there differs from similar doctorate-level jobs in the other branches
>t. NUPOC with a biochem meme degree
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>>53571196
Looking into it though, it does seem a little scuffed: even coming in as O-whatever, you're still at the sub-2-years-of-service pay rate, so it's a bit shit for quite a while anyway. I was thinking military intelligence would want people with degrees like mine too, but it seems like they don't. I don't get how they manage with just like, normal officers in charge of shit. I'm not here to like blow my own horn whatever but like 99% of undergrads have literally no understanding of chemistry even after they get a chem BS, and it's something that you'd think the military would need to have a tight grip on. Like, say you're nuclear analytical for CBRN stuff. Sure, you can probably do the analysis just fine, but like, who writes the protocols? You definitely need someone with a PhD somewhere up there, or maybe the military is just so fucked compared to industry that its BSs all the way up.

>>53571259
>biochem
Not great, not terrible.
Is nuke officer even remotely better than the shitshow normal nukes go through?
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>>53571280
The military doesn't do anything with chemistry, military contractors do. I don't know why you think military intelligence would want you for your degree, military intelligence provides products and briefs to drive command decision making on the battlefield. You are selected as an officer for your education and ability to lead and that's it beyond medical, legal, etc. fields.
For highly specialized fields we have these nifty things called Warrant Officers.
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>>53571280
>surface nukes
>no purpose on aircraft carriers outside the engine room despite the 3-6 months of training as a SWO
>enlisted guys under you constantly getting arrested during liberty, fistfighting random salarymen in okinawa and the like, while you have to attend each one's tribunal and apologize to your commanders on their behalf
>see the sun about as much as submariners anyways since the flight deck is off-limits around the clock
whereas submariners
>marginally easier time getting in in the first place because of demand from the lack of applicants
>90 minimum AFQT and extensive psychological evaluation before any enlisted men can go underway - few idiots, let alone criminals
>hazard pay (duh)

so, in other words, it depends. there's the instructor route too, which would allow you to keep the majority of comforts from cozy uni dorm life, but i've accepted long ago i'm just not smart enough for that. also operating underwater missle silos just sounds really neat
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>>53571343
Interesting. I'm kind of surprised it's all contracted out like that. Like, what happens in a situation like when the russkies gassed that movie theatre with fentanyl or whatever. You have warrant officers taking and analyzing samples of stuff? Or that's all straight up contracted out.
Anyway, it does seem like I misunderstood stuff, so thanks for bearing with my questions.
>>53571453
Instructor route sounds pretty fun honestly, academia is a nightmare but I've enjoyed teaching when I have to (to pay my stipend)
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>>53559504
Diversity in the USAF is itself not very diverse. In all the "Diversity & Inclusion" initiatives, it's blacks who are the only ones put on the pedestal, not Hispanics nor Asians... The USAF top general is literally a black guy named Brown.
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>>53571537
>Like, what happens in a situation like when the russkies gassed that movie theatre with fentanyl or whatever. You have warrant officers taking and analyzing samples of stuff? Or that's all straight up contracted out.
You put fucking MOPP gear on and get to work. The military doesn't do CSI. Some alphabet agency would come in with contractors after the fact and look at all that. Maybe a CBRN unit would roll in but their jobs aren't that levels of specialized; a military intelligence officer in a CBRN unit isn't spending his days in a biochemical engineering lab, he's sucking dick in the office making powerpoints like the rest of them. The CBRN unit's main job would be to detect CBRN elements using standardized equipment, implement countermeasures/decon, and give the all clear when everything's good to go. All the analysis and shit that can wait until after the immediate threat has been neutralized is handled by alphabet boys and/or contractors.
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>>53551453
350F here. List any employment you have worked more than 30 days and/or reported on taxes (basically anything that wasnt under the table). All they care about is that you list your employment timeline correctly so that it matches up with where you have lived (same state/country). All the investigator will do (if the employment was within...3 years iirc) is either send a letter to the address and supervisor you list with a bubble in sheet asking if you had worked there or been fired, or they will call or go in person to ask if you worked there. Honestly, just put in the comments that you worked at whatever location and that you decided to quit for whatever reason.
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>>53571844
That sucks. I thought the alphabet glowies would be more integrated.
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>>53559504
least
Marines - Army / Navy (navy more minorities less blacks)

Most
Air Force, Space Force (diversity quotas), also most women
>>53560409
it's the same as AD
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>>53571095
>Your degree does not matter for officer, just apply for your branches' equivalent of OCS.
Untrue. There are many fields in the air force which have specific education requirements.
>>53571153
Army cyber is doing direct commissions, and based on experience you can commission at a higher rank.
>>53571196
>First I'd heard of it.
This has been a thing for at least 40 years. Imo, you don't know enough to be giving people advice on officer accessions.
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>>53562064
>>53562389
You're wrong, it's worse. Hours are worse, which is the only thing that matters.
>>53562448
No wifi either. Navy sucks.
>>53563525
2%
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>>53563636
I got my brand new clifton 8s for like 100 on black friday (120 normal, -20 for sale) in store, just happened to be shopping two days after black friday
way to expose yourself retard
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>>53564735
I plank pretty much daily, it's great, recommend it
you don't need more than 2 minutes a day
I do like 4-5 minutes once on saturday now, once a week, that's it

>>53565098
Most boot request of all time
you realize we don't wear our blues unless we have to right, which is effectively never

>>53570862
the opposite of this, reserves way better
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>>53570891
just do 60 120s or light poles until you're starting to hurt
not sore, hurt
then stop and recover and do it again next week until you can do the whole thing
>>53571033
guaranteed in any service
I'd try for all the three letters though (apply now, process takes 2 years total)
>>53571095
stem matters esp. for air force
>>53571280
>but like, who writes the protocols? You definitely need someone with a PhD somewhere up there
GS-13 or 14 civilian with 12 years experience
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>>53572133
>you realize we don't wear our blues unless we have to right, which is effectively never
Dig em out, throw them on the floor, take a picture. Take off unit identifiers if you like, I don't care.
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>>53568381
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pFlkY_dreGo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_dY6FdNWI9A
Also make sure to review your math and English skills
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>>53570754
Thank you. Should I emphasize to the recruter that my goal are the sf?
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whats the saltiest job in the navy? I dont care if im surrounded by retards, as long as im not spending my entire contract on land
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>>53571983
Yeah the military doesn't particularly glow in the dark until you're way up the chain of command or are working actual top secret somewhere like Korea.
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>>53577019
if you just want to be spirited away from your shitty hometown as irregularly and often as possible, you're looking at fast-attack subs. retards are vetted far more intensely than that of the surface fleet, but it's an extra two years you have to sign away
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>>53577019
Boatswain's mate.
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So, what's SigInt like? Are there officer positions? What do you actually do/learn?
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>>53580050
Siginters are usually extremely squirrely because common knowledge is that all sigint is automatically classified (not true, coms externals can be unclass but try convincing a siginter of that).
I am seconding your question though because I am interested in reclassing to do something ACTUAL intel.
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>>53580050
Irrelevant now desu, don't fall for the meme
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>>53577898
Funny you say that, one of my friends was a contractor in korea. Real tight lipped guy. Bad case of yellow fever. Fun to talk to though
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>>53572192
Thanks lad. I’ll look into the proper glowies.
And yeah I guess that makes sense about a 12+ year experience civvie writing it. In most industry jobs the like 5 years you spend in a PhD count double, so a fresh PhD is like a “10 years of experience BS”, basically the same thing there I suppose.
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Any advice for a retard who's gonna have to go to DLI?
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>>53581421
Don't quit, it'll be the worst mistake of your life. Also, learn to study if you don't already know how
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So important question. My recruiter wants me to go to MEPs at the end of this month. The original plan is to go to basic/OSUT for the army guard in January since I get married in September and graduate with my bachelors in criminology in December. Would it be better for me to tell him to hold off on MEPs until December? I’m signing a 6 year to help pay for my federal loans.
Just trying to make sure I won’t get fucked over because I signed a contract at MEPs too early since I have some big things planned.
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>>53582059
Do you have a reason to believe that your recruiter would fuck you? Have you communicated your plan to your recruiter?
If you really are paranoid, then yes, put off meps. The worst thing that would happen is someone else take your job, and I'm sure there are like 50 others you could fill at that unit if such a thing happens.
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>>53582059
getting married and graduating anon. grats that's pretty big. you're one of those winners i hear about
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>>53582059
Yes, go to MEPs and get paperwork and stuff done, but don't sign off on any contracts until you're ready unless you want a specific MOS which might be filled soon. Fiscal year begins september/october btw, so if you are worried about your MOS slot being taken from you, it'll likely reopen around that time. IF you do sign, don't worry, you can back out up until you go to basic, at that point things are set in stone.
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>>53582648
Don’t always feel like a winner lmao but we’re all gonna make it buddy
>>53582592
I don’t necessarily have a reason to believe he’d pull the rug out from under me. Not worried about RSP or anything just worried about scheduling. The weddings been planned but I’ve also got a bachelors trip and honeymoon that have also been paid for. I wouldn’t want RSP drill stuff to cause a huge hiccup.
Might also be psyching myself out by stumbling into all the whiners on the r/national guard sub Reddit. So lame. They’re fucking bleak lol.
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>>53582804
Biggest thing is I had a shoulder labrum repair surgery from wrestling in HS with obvious scars. I believe I’d get disqualified at MEPs the first time then go back after the waiver is approved. I’d like to know asap whether or not I can pursue this but I’m just wary.
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>>53582844
you've definitely made it. im not so sure we will all be as blessed
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>>53582844
>I wouldn’t want RSP drill stuff to cause a huge hiccup.
I'm air guard, so bear with me.
You already have your drill dates, right? You've got your trips and such scheduled around them? Why do you think drill would mess with your stuff if that were the case?
In RSP (ARNG equivalent of ANG student flight) you're just going to be marching around, possible cleaning up the base. Those dates don't randomly change, people who haven't been to basic and aren't mos-q'ed don't get randomly pulled into exercises.
The reddit national guard sub is just a bitchfest of retards who are mad at themselves for not doing their homework and accidentally joining shit units, and the other extreme are people who chug the kool aid and will straight up lie about problems with the guard. I wouldn't take anything said there at face value, you always need to double check everything when dealing with people in the guard because they sometimes follow out of date regs and pass along old/irrelevant info.
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>>53582804
>but don't sign off on any contracts until you're ready unless you want a specific MOS which might be filled soon
Are you not in the guard? That is not how things work when enlisting in the ARNG or ANG.
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>>53583323
>>53583334
No I’m not in the army guard yet. My recruiter wants me to go to MEPs at the end of the month. As far as I know I would begin RSP drill weekends after I sign my contract at meps. I just have a lot planned for the end of the summer and fall. I wouldn’t want to have to try and refund any honeymoon dates or expensive trips just to attained RSP.



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