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What are some of your favourite fictional weapons in media?
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>>51183378
No
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Its not a gun unless it weighs at least 100 pounds.
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>>51183373
The commando is one of my new favorites. Instantly fell in love with it. The shotgun not so much.
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Destiny 2 has very aesthetic guns, if a bit far fetched at times.
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>>51183509
Magnets how do they work
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>>51183503
I wish the optic was a bit bulkier, but it's growing on me
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This one always looked fun to take out for a try.
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>>51183373
Toggle lock anti-material cannon
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>>51183594
Imagine the tinnitus
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I like power fists.
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bulppup pistols are so quirky and try-hard cyberpunk
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I'm doing my impression of the charge up sound right now.
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>>51183701
heres a gluon gun
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>>51183695
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Basically anything from metro
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>>51183737
if i had the skill i would make a black powder percussion version of the metro double barrel and it should actually work too
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>>51183770
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>>51183669
Interesting, so does your mother
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>>51183737
This. The Uboinik is by far my favorite fictional gun.
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DRG's LOK-1 is neat
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>>51183373
Tachyon gun
Shoots tachyon particles that move back in time and kill target before trigger was pressed and target even entered firefight. (time paradox? Not my problem).
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>>51183594
>barely any recoil
>not fucking up the whole space station
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>>51183882
I fuck w the vision
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>>51183882
I know the makarov has dick grips but dang
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I love when artists are noguns, their ignorance allows them so more creative freedom my autism could never achieve.
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>future
>bullpup
i will say rear-tilted magazines make me happy
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>>51184643
right handed shooters btfo
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>>51184174
He has exoskeleton and its the size if a halo ring

But elysium is dumb action movie so idk who cares
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>>51183509
how did nobody notice this
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>>51183373
M41 Pulse rifle for me.
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>>51183509
>>51183515
>>51185683
Destiny weapons don't have traditional magazines, they're fed through pocket dimension smart matter conversation systems. In short the "magazine" is nothing more than a "Glimmer" (said programmable matter) holder that uses both teleportation and matter replication to feed the weapon.
>tl;dr
Spess Magic.
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>>51183699
>fins
Oooof, that should be saboted in order to feed properly.
>explosive yield
WTF explosive could do that? Unless it's full retard antimatter or some shit.
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>>51183373
this is fucking retarded
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>>51185735
Adding to this, glimmer is the game’s currency system and used by everyone to make whatever they need. Guns and bullets are just one thing. Useful space magic material for the player.
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Zhukov
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Embrace monke.
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>>51183373
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L-STAR, my favorite gun in Titanfall 2 because there's no need to aim down sights. Just spray your foe with energy and watch them burst into red mist.
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William Bennet does these cool firearm concepts in a hyper-consumerist designers republic style.
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>>51187571
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Number one weapon I used in Dead Space.
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Destiny 2 has some pretty outlandish stuff but sometimes it's just the right amount of weird to really appeal to me.
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>>51183373
>be me
>roommate lets me use his xbox one and gamepass
> play MGSV
>first MGS game I've ever played
>didn't know the tranquilizer pistol was his iconic weapon, thought it shot too slowly
>first Afghanistan mission, only use NATO service weapon
>didn't like killing, just wanted to grow motherbase, so never upgraded lethal weapons
>didn't know you had to upgrade lethal weapons to unlock their nonlethal form
>Go through ~60% of game using pic related as my main weapon.
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>>51187552
I wrote a Titanfall/Halo crossover where that was reverse engineered from the Plasma Repeater/Brute Plasma Rifle.
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Not Mateba
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Death Stranding has a lot of cool guns, for a walking sim.
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>>51187878
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>>51183373
I wish I knew if all these markings are bullshit or mean something
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>>51187922
I wish they evolved the design and removed the bulky flashlight. It was fun back in 2001, but now it seems silly
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Still pissed that no one has done a 3D print model of this
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ChemRail
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>>51187992
Changing fictional universes based on a certain era of scifi to a more contemporary tacticool look is GAY
Halo needs to push the 80s anime, Aliens by James Cameron crossed with the Gulf War even more
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>>51188053
>Halo needs to push the 80s anime
They tried that and I don't trust them to try again
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>>51188073
Halo would be forgotten if it werent for the classic weeb influence crossed with classic 80s scifi the OG Bungie guys had. Dont discard that just because those 343i mouthbreathers fucked it up.
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>>51188073
Halo died after 3. There is no Halo after 3.
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>>51188097
At least they're trying to fix their mistakes.
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>>51183373
In Halo, the Needler is my jam. The explosion is so very satisfying. Deletes Elites and Brutes.
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>>51183373
Playing Infinite's beta, the AR is surprisingly good. 343 games tend to have stronger ARs but here it's just great. The AR has come a long way since Halo: CE where it's functionally an SMG.
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>>51183509
honestly who says that couldnt work, just have a bolt ahead of the bullet which functions like a gate and has a little arm to pull the bullet out.
(sorry mouse broke so trackpad)
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Helluva shotgun
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>>51188328
Crude but effective
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>>51183695
>>51183734
>>51183910
no these are not allowed
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>>51183509
One thing I like is the range of aesthetic. Each weapon foundry has their style SUROS is a futuristic, almost IPod design. Hakke like pic resembles modern guns. Omolon is basically helping a mad scientist beta test crazy ideas. Tex Mechanica is wild west. And more. They don't always nail them and they inevitably reuse models but they try to cover all the basis.
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>>51183373
>they still use 7.62 NATO in the 2550s
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>>51183373
>when you penetrate any kind of cover
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Forgot to post Helghan armaments.
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>>51187585
based dead space poster
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>>51188336
much like my penis
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>>51188477
checked
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>>51183373
>Full power 7.62 NATO in an assault rifle
>Still using 7.62 NATO 500 years in the future
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>>51183474
Fancy but impractical. Travel time is too long for casual use, damage output is too low to take down priority targets. Minigun remains superior.
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>>51188968
In 1000 years we'll still be using 9mm
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>>51183675
Shortest cooldown of all the specials and also the strongest weapon in the game, hits immediately in a large area, kills almost anything and stuns the rest, with infinite ammo and no potential for self-damage. The other specials are worthwhile if they synergize with your vehicle or weapons, but the AKP is overwhelmingly the best pick for lightly armed vehicles and still top-tier for all others.
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>>51189238
Youre not wrong.
I use that the flamethrower for driller m1000 for scout and shotgun for engineer
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>>51188510
thank god for autism what else would give up helical fed glock trigger polymer body luger.
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>>51189275
Check out the plasma carbine for the scout. It's less suitable for long-range work than the assault rifle, but can easily have three times the damage output and requires no reloading. Obviously does not replace the m1000 in its niche, but I was surprised by how strong it is.
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>>51183373
Visari did nothing wrong
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>>51189286
based deep rock galatic player
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>>51183373
Dakka gun
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>>51189366
>>51183373
Forgot pic
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>>51183373
Never knew it was in real fuckin NATO.
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>>51184640
Reimagining the prototype of possibly the most scifi-looking service weapon in use into something even more scifi is pretty based
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>>51189335
They unironically made the updated version of the VHS look like the Helghast rifle on purpose because they thought it looked cool and that it would help it sell.
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>>51188278
Both 343 AR's and the "Storm Rifle" were GOAT. Bungie pushed WAYYY too hard on precision weapons, making everything but the BR/DMR pretty much useless for 95% of combat. This in turn forced vehicle combat to be far more reserved, as passengers and gunners could be killed easily.
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>>51188477
>Halo
>77
>real fuckin' NATO
Blessed as fuck post.
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>>51189370
The Leman Russ tank really doesn't "feel" like a real military vehicle, unlike the Baneblade, Predator, Land Raider, the Leman Russ reminds me more of the Bob Semple than any other vehicle in 40k.
>95% of Imperial tech is repurposed civilian equipment
DAoT Mankind must have been some scary motherfuckers.
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>>51189408
I agree. I felt the best Bungie sandbox was 3's. 2's BR and Reach's DMR were very strong but 2 had map designs where the "main" precision gun wasn't the end all be all. Reach's map designs were so open and the DMR so strong that DMRing something from across the map is too good a solution to everything. You'd think a dude in a light vehicle, turret or charging with an energy sword wouldn't be so easily DMRed by one or two guys. Heck, it's almost sad how many games the Assault Rifle, the weapon on the covers, is at best
>Save ammo for other weapon

Indeed, vehicle combat suffered from it. Just hit the driver or passenger. So many situations where something ought to be meaningful becomes meaningless. These weapons pretty much turn any Halo map into long distance sniper fights, but without the ammunition or weapon limit, which in turn forced Bungie and now 343i to add more and more movement systems in order for players to be able to simply go across the map without dying. Which makes map design even more important not just navigation but offsetting precision weapon power.
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>>51189517
Dark Age dudes are terrifying. Lore's inconsistent on what an STC is but many a completely whole STC, no flaws or corruption, would be outright game changing for the Imperium. Even the Eldar thought twice before screwing with DAoT mankind.
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>>51183675
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>Man, the Dark Age.... Everything was deadlier in the Dark Age!
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>>51183590
>this thing fucking jammed in the last shot
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>>51189407
Bring it to the states and it will.
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>>51183520
That and the stock is retardly short like the 343 sniper design
Still nest though since it's the first non bullpup regular UNSC rifle.
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>>51188249
Reach was great, 4 was strictly okay, five was ass, we'll see about infinite. Talking purely about singleplayer, multi is a borderline moot point since you can't headshot shields.
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>>51183503
I was unpleasantly surprised by the shotgun. On one hand, an external magazine shotty. Previously only found in alien hands, now humans finally have one. And it's stopping power's weak. So many times in the beta it didn't help me. Small range, comparatively smaller power, it doesn't have much going for it. It's not like the drum mag makes reloading faster either.
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>>51188477
>7.62 NATO
Don't be silly, obviously they needed something with a bit more punch
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>>51189995
>Reach was great
Singleplayer had stuff like the Long Night of Solstice somehow arrive to Reach, dodging all UNSC radars and detection methods. Characters needed work too. Too many were one-note. The plot IMO is too turn your brain off even by Halo standards.
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>>51187539
The fact that they ommited this from new vegas and fallout 4 is inexcusable.
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>>51188324
Pretty sure this exactly how those crazy looking soviet Russian PDWs work (pic related)
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>>51190103
There's something like it in 4's DLC. It has this odd shovel-stock.
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>>51190017
>Singleplayer had stuff like the Long Night of Solstice somehow arrive to Reach, dodging all UNSC radars and detection methods.
Idk if you noticed but the covenant actually had to take down the visegrad comm relay in order to sneak in and the UNSC thought it was so odd that they sent spartans to investigate so it wasnt just "somehow arrive."
>Characters needed work too. Too many were one-note.
Most spartans are autistic killing machines with no personality which is why frenly jorge and murderous monotone emile bickered so much while jun just snickered at them in the backround
>The plot IMO is too turn your brain off even by Halo standards.
It actually makes a lot of sense if you know the lore.
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>>51190192
Its better than nothing but they still cut the real one.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Chinese_assault_rifle_(Fallout_4)
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>>51189972
It looks extendable. Maybe it's just collapsed because even Spartan 4s are huge. Also I think the sniper has an extendable buttplate like the AR, so my headcannon is that it's collapsed for the same reason.
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>>51190392
Are spartan 4s huge? I know that in reach 3s are shorter than 2s. Spartan 4s are supposed to be mass production spartans like 3s and even adults and odsts can join the spartan 4 program, how do they make them taller?
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>>51190421
They still undergo augmentation. Although, it's not extensive due to the genetic material they have to work with. Apparently their bones are lengthened, but it's not really elaborated how or to what degree. Also remember that their armour still adds several inches of height.
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>>51183910
>10mm bullpup revolver
I both want, and want to know y tho
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>>51183910
That is fucked
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>>51183373
you easily posted the most soulless derivative of this gun
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>>51184643
>>51184651
holy crud thats pretty
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>>51188269
Everything 343 pushes out feels like a Halo-themed game rather than a Halo game.
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>>51185735
It's all so tiresome
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>>51183472
/thread it’s over lads
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>>51190541
Ah. In halo reach the reason that jorge is so much taller than the rest of noble team is because he is the only spartan II on the team everyone else is a spartan III so george and master cheif are both 7 something feet tall and six and crew are all like 6 foot 9 or something "little" like that. They must have refined the process for spartan IVs because according to the books the bone augmenting phase is where many of the spartan recruits die and the IVs obviously have their bones augmented in order to be so tall compared to the IIIs.
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>>51183734
Infinite Warfare had some really neat gun designs
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>>51189517
>DAoT Mankind must have been some scary motherfuckers.
Incredibly so. There's limited information about them for obvious reasons, but the Baneblade superheavy tank - the current go to super heavy tank used by the Imperium - came from an STC labelled 'scout tank, light'. Granted, the Baneblade would make a shitty scout tank (even if you could mass produce them cheaply enough to use them in that role) but it does show you how far things have fallen by the time of 40k.

If you read the Priests of Mars book the 'Ark Mechanicus' is a DAoT ship the size of a moon, with built in manufacturing and research complexes that the Mechanicus think is a wonder while it's barely clinging on to 1% of its total capabilities. When they wake up the AI running the Ark as a desperate last gasp during a space battle with an Eldar fleet the AI uses some kind of archeotech to rewind time so that it can take a shot again - because it was irritated that it hadn't managed to one-shot a stealthed ship in the middle of a pile of sensor ghosts and gravitational/spatial anomalies warping the trajectory of the impossi-tech round it fired at the ship.
>tl;dr - 40k is actually remarkably restrained when you consider what their great^50 grandparents were getting up to.
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>>51187602
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>>51192122
>but the Baneblade superheavy tank - the current go to super heavy tank used by the Imperium - came from an STC labelled 'scout tank, light'. Granted, the Baneblade would make a shitty scout tank (even if you could mass produce them cheaply enough to use them in that role) but it does show you how far things have fallen by the time of 40k.
That just sounds like a classic example of a writer trying to make it sound cool for 12-14 year old, which, granted, is their target audience. In theory.
Baneblade should have been some sort of
>Industrial Mining Equipment Platform - Field Modification Standard
Something like that
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>>51192415
>That just sounds like a classic example of a writer trying to make it sound cool for 12-14 year old
That's the problem with 40k, even if there was a single person on the creative staff who knew about this sort of thing they'd get voted down by the 'but will it sell' crowd.
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>>51187830
Stylish. Do like that cassette futurism.
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>>51183669
>not the Power Chair
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>>51188019
based baur chad, fuck the voss
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>>51192638
>Not using voss with both the shotgun and timed fuse grenade launcher attached, with corresponding hotkeys bound to sidescroll mousewheel buttons on a G6
Missing PC FPS how it was meant to be played.
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>>51192730
for me it was the shuko lmg, I'll hear that sound in my head for the rest of my life.
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>>51183397
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>>51183472
have held these. can confirm the chemrail is v comfortable to shoulder.
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>>51185766
>+++P .308 AP aimbot gun with zero recoil and a magazine the size of Cleveland
You might not like it, but UNSC space magic is what peak performance looks like.
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>>51183373
It's my headcanon WWII, where every soldier on each of the sides was a cute girl in skimpy clothes doing gymnastic routines while firing pistolised versions of the RL wars MGs.
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>>51189995
Reach's plot was incoherent nonsense and people forgive it because muh
>DUNdududuhduhdududuDUH
and because they confuse an alien teleporting into a scene to tear a character in half while an entire orchestra plays sad music at ten times volume with compelling writing.
Four was absolute dogshit with the exception of the chief Cortana interactions. Everyone who worked on the "SURRENDETHAAYAAAII" scene should be publically beaten into a coma.
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>>51188477
Don't fix what ain't broke.
The M46 LAAG on the Warthog is in .50BMG too.
I guarantee you some backwater Colonial Militia is fielding M2s and issuing M1911s.
Two World Wars and one Covenant War.
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>>51193396
>Don't fix what ain't broke.
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>>51189972
Unsc guns are supposed to be short stocked bullpups, you take that away and they stop being Halo.
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>>51190541
It's very inconsistent. From scene to scene, game to game, art to art, Spartan 4s, even the same characters mind you, randomly vary from 5'10 to 7ft. Other Spartans aren't immune to this but it's worst with them. Then there's the ending of Halo 4 where master Chief is like eleven fucking feet tall.
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>>51188019
You Sir are a man of excellent taste.
And i agree, we eeallye do need .stl files of all weapons fron 2142
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>>51190421
>>51190541
>>51191996
>>51193487
>One scene, Spartan 4s are seven feet tall and ninja flipping through concrete walls and throwing cars
>Next scene, Spartan 4s literally lose a fistfight to fat, washed up boomer Marine infantry
Why is writing so hard?
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>>51192595
>my legs are ok
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>>51188270
I shout "fear the pink mist" everytime I get a kill in mp for added satisfaction.
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>>51190211
Not exactly. Their explanation had flaws. Reach's an important colony and the zealot teams or whatever they sent must've needed to disable more than one. The UNSC would've been really suspicious at many taken down at once. Innies aren't magic. Covenant cloaking generates heat too. With how important Reach is and active war with the Covenant, you'd think they have more thermal detection tech. Clearly there are slipspace-monitoring systems (see the cutscene after you destroy the Long Night of Solace). And MAC cannons. Basically the world's best Covenant stealth team must've snuck in and kicked everyone's asses undetected and set up all sorts of pre-fab sensor disablers without anyone being wiser. Not sure how else I could see it.
>no personality
Some of the book spartans had better personalities. Many were silent around most but friendly towards each other. They grew up together after all. Like Kurt.
>The plot IMO is too turn your brain off even by Halo standards.
Lore gets contradicted left and right. Not just books, games too.
>>51191996
Jorge was tall even by II standards though. Man's a giant.
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>>51193487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAroeYIWYYg
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>>51193697
How does a war with a fleet of ships that each can vaporize cities in a second even last as long as the game suggested.
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>>51193787
Humanity had a shitton of occupied planets by the time they ran into covies
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>>51193787
According to the Fall of Reach book, it didn't. Humanity was losing the big space ship fights and those were the important ones. They never found Reach or Earth until later.
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>>51193787
because we had 300 + colonies thrown out into the void and space is very fucking big when you don't know where to look. Also we didn't win space battles unless we hand a 3-1 advantage an that usually ended with about 3/4ths of the fleet sent as modern art peices and the remaining chuck horribly maimed.
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>>51192122
The Baneblade only works as a "scout" vehicle if fucking BOLO's were a thing. The reason why lighter vehicles simply don't work is the fact that they just get instagib'd by Titan+P+ weapons. Titans themselves don't feel like military equipment either, to me they feel like scaled up Knight frames, which they themselves were impressed construction equipment.
>Terminator Armor
Deep space extreme condition construction and fusion reactor repair gear, in which said repairs is underway while the reactor is STILL RUNNING.
>Lasgun
The Ruger 10/22 /AR7 of DAoT, a "weapon" for frontier conditions: Being a near zero training hunting, survival, and self defense carbine that requires no resupply for ammunition.
>Rhino
White Dwarf lore even states that it's a "hostile environment armored transport" for civilian use.
>chainswords
Machete/Chainsaws, hence the "caution stripes" that are so common.
>Hellgun
An actual "military" weapon. High-Energy, Laser, Light. Gun. HELLGun.
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>>51193927
Sorry, I fucked up I see how that sounds I meant the individual battle of Reach, I wasn't paying close attention when I said war.
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>>51194158
>The Baneblade only works as a "scout" vehicle if fucking BOLO's were a thing.
Given the DAOT things like BOLO's might actually be kids hobby projects for their schools show and tell program. But yeah, calling the Baneblade a scout tank was just another example of '40k writers don't understand fucking anything' to add to the list. The other Anons explanation - that it's heavy mining equipment that the Mechanicus managed to strap a shitload of guns onto makes a lot more sense.
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>>51194158
Wouldn't a scout tank at that scale still need to be a lot faster?
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>>51194208
Don't pretend like the DAOT has some kind of consistent power scale either. There's an equal pile of evidence to suggest they were depressingly shitty at everything.
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>>51194220
>There's an equal pile of evidence to suggest they were depressingly shitty at everything.
It's 40k, even the lovey dovey precursors are responsible for turning the soft and fluffy 'realm of souls' into the free for all murderfetishrape horror show that is the warp.
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>>51194158
I'd say it High Energy Light Laser Gun, implying the lascannon is the "heavy Laser Gun".
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>>51194208
>thinking tabletop scale
If you read any of the BOLO books you'd know that they constantly fight at continental ICBM distance, so a "scout" that's the only thing around for hundreds of miles around makes a lot of sense. Additionally it can engage targets too "light" to be worth a BOLO/Titan's time or ordinance. Additionally a DAoT Baneblade is NOT a 40k Baneblade.
>>51194208
>>51194208
My idea of a Dark Age Baneblade is this.
>Repulser Assisted Tracks
The anti gravity dosen't provide the primary means of locomotion, but "assists" by cutting weight, making the tank lighter.
>Void Sheild/Conversion field
>nuclear weapon shells
Think a Iowa class throwing nukes like it's nothing.
>Lasautocannon
Lascannon, but fullauto.
>Bolters
But firing EXacto Antimatter cored DU tipped ultra fuck rounds.
>Autocannons
CWIS
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the best scifi weapons are the ones that would be unimaginably horrible to be shot with
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>>51188053
>Halo needs to push the 80s anime, Aliens by James Cameron crossed with the Gulf War even more

Instead we got power rangers covered in greebles
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Surprised this hasn't been posted yet.
Stocks are for pussies btw.
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>>51194742
Yknow you could wear the helmet.
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>>51194391
>causes instantaneous third-degree burns on contact
>near-misses can still cause severe burns to unprotected tissue
>dumbass marines routinely tank 5 plasma bolts to their unshielded faces without so much as a scratch
kek
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>>51194194
acording to fall of reach, it was mainly because of the 20 or so supermacs in orbit. Those could fuck a covie ship in one shot and recharged in just 6 seconds. but then they got wise and pinpoint jumped a group behind the fleet and in between the guns. Guns died and then they only had the 300 or so ships in the orbiting fleets and whatever ships had previously been heading out of system, the PoA included. Halo reach completely different and i don't remember it as well funnily enough.
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>>51194931
oh total time for that battle between first contact and the last ships fleeing was something like five or six hours.
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>>51194783
>Melts fist sized depression in metal wall in game
>Gives people severe burns through armor on a miss in books
>Literally vaporizes a guy's head in a book
>Less effective against human face than a pistol in game
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>>51193697
>The UNSC would've been really suspicious at many taken down at once.
Yeah this is probably why Colonel Holland insisted on sending Noble after the troopers dissapeared, he was suspicious and his suspicions were proven correct.
>Innies aren't magic. Covenant cloaking generates heat too. With how important Reach is and active war with the Covenant, you'd think they have more thermal detection tech. Clearly there are slipspace-monitoring systems (see the cutscene after you destroy the Long Night of Solace).
Yeah the covenant sneaking in system is bs because slipspace has always been a very disruptive process. Cortana even says in halo 1 "no one could have missed the hole we tore in subspace" and in halo 2 of course a slip space jump is used as an improvised nuke essentially by the covenant, but slipspace aside, if the covenant could actually enter system unnoticed somehow they could totally launch a sneak attack on reach because they do have the technological edge and they had the destruction of all of the outer colonies up to that point to test and examine human orbital defenses and electronic surviellance systems.
>Jorge was tall even by II standards though. Man's a giant.
Yes but only marginally. Wiki says john is 7 foot 2 in armor and jorge is 8 feet tall in armor. So cheif and jorge are two tall people standing next to each other compared to most spartan IIIs being noticably shorter. In halo 4 i think the first thing palmer said to chief was "i thought hed be taller" so the spartan 4 program must have been able to reach closer to spartan 2 height parameters which is probably useful since most covvies are rather tall.
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>>51194979
Do you have any idea how shitty a lore accurate Halo game would play? The marines would literally be pointless, there's be no sense in using any human weapon (or vehicle) ever, and you could 1 hit melee any enemy (or vehicle) in the game, except maybe hunters. Would you want them to add periodic sound effects of Master Chief drinking his own recycled piss too?
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>>51194194
Reach was the heart of the UNSC war machine. It was where all of their titanium mines were, it was where all of their shipyards were (halo reach even features one of the shipyards in the last mission), and I think the wiki (for what its worth) says the UNSC had at least 300 million soliders planetside. Since the orbital platforms were an effective defense the covenant fleet could not approach the planet until the platforms were gone which meant they had to land troops on the planet to take out the guns land based power sources (hence the covenant stealth ship insertion at the beginning of the game) the books point out that while the covenant dominated orbital warfare the humans were able to match them on the ground (unforunately aside from reach most battles never made it to the ground as the covenant were accustomed to glassing defenceless planets) so having to fight the entire UNSC army on the ground in order to disable the orbital defenses slowed the covenant campaign (by the time they got to earth the covenant just decided to send hundreds of troops to suicide bomb orbital platforms as you see in the first mission of halo 2 the way they did it on reach was too time consuming apparently)

Until the super carrier reveals itself the humans are actually winning on reach. Orbital defenses are up and they shoot down a covenant corvette near sword base and they conduct a counter attack against the spire with frigate gun support, but then solace reveals itself as the battle turns against the covenant and the orbital platforms and navy get wiped out as covenant reienforcements arrive in system and its all down hill for reach from there.

Tldr version: it took the covenant (in game) several months to glass reach because there was just so much stuff to kill. In one of the books an elite reflects on the fact that in his mind reach was the first REAL fight where humanity actually tried to fight back. It was a big battle even by covenant standards.
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>>51195159
>Yknow how bad a game would be about an eight foot tall robot Jerry Miculek running around at forty miles an hour dual wielding SAWs, throwing entire belts of grenades every half second and smashing bullet deflecting alien supersoldiers through cars while screaming humans exploded all around him
That sounds lit as fuck, pussy.
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>>51195288
Glassing a continent takes like an hour.
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>>51190103
>>51190103
They were obsessed with cowboying it up and jacking off to the designated protagonists faction, the NCR, that they shat all over everything else.

People bitched about the BoS in 3, but all Bethesda did was continue the obvious pattern established in 1, 2, and Tactics. The Brotherhood going out there and getting shit done.

I mean damn, Dead Money and OWB and LR are basically the kind of thing the Brotherhood would go on missions to do.

But Obsidian strongly disliked that not everyone was humping the California train so they shat all over the Brotherhood. Bethesda made a small mess of how tough power armor and deathclaws should be and of supermutants...but Obsidian tried to get away with literal garbage for Energy weapons.

While making the Legion the worst and most poorly done strawman since 2000s Baen authors went off after 9/11. Just the other direction.
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>ywn have team fortress 3 and or tf2 art cohesion ever
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>>51195303
>Glassing a city* takes like an hour.
Some blessed autist did the actual math on how quickly covies can turn surface into glass, and I think they concluded it would take around 3 years to glass an entire planet. The covenant really saved complete annihilation for cities and towns, smaller settlements would be bombarded with typical plasma weaponry with ground tropps assuring there were little to no humans left alive.
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>>51195125
>Yeah this is probably why Colonel Holland insisted on sending Noble after the troopers dissapeared, he was suspicious and his suspicions were proven correct.
I wondered what irreplaceable damages were dome that the UNSC wouldn't rush to fix it ASAP. Reach didn't happen over a day.
> but slipspace aside, if the covenant could actually enter system unnoticed somehow they could totally launch a sneak attack on reach because they do have the technological edge and they had the destruction of all of the outer colonies up to that point to test and examine human orbital defenses and electronic surviellance systems.
True but that's my point. The Long Night of Solstice is oddly stealthy even for an alien warship.
>which is probably useful since most covvies are rather tall.
Maybe. A shorter target means smaller target but I assume their height has some purpose other than looking cool.
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>>51195369
>jacking off to the designated protagonists faction, the NCR, that they shat all over everything else.
The NCR is repeatedly shown to be flawed and heavily criticized by every other faction. Not just Caesar but House and all the rest. The NCR ending shows they'll tax the shit out of Vegas.
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>>51195159
The ARs would be nearly as accurate as the BRs, certainky with a Spartan is using them and perfectly capable of headshots. So everything not shielded gets merked.
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>>51183373
>no imfdb page for Halo infinite
I'm not the only one that thinks the handgun looks like a berreta APX carry or a nano right?
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>>51195434
You know what I fucking mean.
>guise come on i know it isnt perfect but come on bro please

They are portrayed Nd expected to be the only legit option. Obsidian was surprised at how popular Yes and House was.

And still no horses.
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>>51195490
>>guise come on i know it isnt perfect but come on bro please
>They are portrayed Nd expected to be the only legit option.
Not really, House is just as legit if not more. Even Caesar's Legion can consistently bring order and merchants. And it's up to the player how they interpret Yes-Man.
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>>51195407
That was later revisionist cope.
Let me let you in on a little bit of an open secret with Halo lore: it's a fucking battleground. A hundred writers in factions bitterly, and with fanatical aggression, rewriting lore from the broad to the autistically niche.
One of the major battlegrounds between the Sangheilifag and ONIfag factions has been glassing. Every time one of them gets control of a project they sneak in some mention about how glassing "really" works.
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>>51183373

>Mfw I will never have an obnoxiously huge revolver thing with a fuckoff massive cylinder
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>>51195461
Lore accurate Halo means the AR, despite being futuristic superspeed .308, is underpowered and obsolete. A brute ate like twenty rounds clean to his face in one book and kept fighting, even as smoke was coming out from the holes and bits of bulletproof bone were falling out of his face. An elite has a similar showing where a marine was magdumping into an unarmored elite for a good while, and basically had to chew through him like killing a bear with birdshot.
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>>51195407
>Rtas Glasses half a continent in an hour, insists that he could have glassed the rest of the planet in short order
>On screen depictions of entire continents on reach glowing brighter than molten steel from space
>The shipmaster in the Return blew a hole in a planet the depth of a skyscraper that took twelve hours for him to walk across literally in a second.
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>>51190541
>They still undergo augmentation. Although, it's not extensive
https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/SPARTAN-IV_augmentation_procedures
>skeletal grafting
>muscular coating
>lungs are surgically replaced
>eyes replaced
>heart implants
>pancreas implants
>platelet injections
I'd say it's still pretty dang extensive
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>>51195490
It's wierd because House is the only option that doesn't lead to a downgrade for a huge number of people. Literally all we get is "House's Vegas is emotionally a bit austere". Like everyone is fine, the Legion is fine, the NCR is fine, Vegas is okay, the wastes are as well as they were, but things are a little cynical in one place.
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>>51195490
>>51195683
The only correct option is to repel the NCR and Legion with the minimum damage necessary, put house in charge of Vegas, have Ulysses nuke that stupid fucking hologram hotel, and then go live with the Mormons.
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>>51195416
>I wondered what irreplaceable damages were dome that the UNSC wouldn't rush to fix it ASAP. Reach didn't happen over a day.
Kat said in game that visegrad relay would take at a minimum two weeks to repair correctly and the UNSC did rush in, only to dissapear. The innsurectionists attacking a comms outpost on the UNSC's fortress planet was bold, but not impossible, the innies ghosting an entire trooper team was too much though. Thata when holland got suspicious and sent in spartans and his worst fears were confirmed. The UNSC responded correctly at visegrad and i think the circumstances of the incident are completely believable.
>True but that's my point. The Long Night of Solstice is oddly stealthy even for an alien warship.
Yeah they stretch that a bit. If it could sneak in why didnt it just fire up at the mac platforms instead of stealthily landing ground forces to disable them from below?
>Maybe. A shorter target means smaller target but I assume their height has some purpose other than looking cool.
I can only assume a taller spartan is preffered when going one on one with an elite so when the spartan 4 program came along they said "they need to be cheap like IIIs but tall like IIs.

>>51195559
If you look at it based on the games by measuring the width of the plasma beams projected by the biggest covenant ships, like the super carrier on the freeway level at the end of odst glassing new mombassa, it would take many ships many months to completely glass a continent. Like >>51195407 says the covenant generally glassed important stuff and then left which is why its possible to restore glassed planets via teraforming as we saw in halo 5, theyre damaged not ruined.

>>51195647
>Yet it still took Truths fleet several weeks to excavate the ark with their plasma beams

>>51195661
>skeletal grafting
Now we know how they manage to get taller. Thanks anon.
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>>51195941
>Conflicting information in a series means my version is right.
There are just as many if not more points of information from games, animated shorts, and books that outright disprove the "months to glass a planet" side, because the writers hate each other and have different visions of the universe. One writer put in "covenant never use glassing beams in ship combat" and the next writer literally had a covenant cruiser cut a UNSC ship in half from face to ass in a split second from hundreds of thousands of miles away with, you guessed it, the glassing laser.
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>>51195507
>Even Caesar's Legion can consistently bring order and merchants.
No. Its an amalgamation of everything bad. Technophobes, misogyny so hardcore itd make 1st gen Muslims jealous, and generally untenable practices? The only way theyd work is if it turned out they were supplied and originally created by the Midwestern BoS gone rogue as a way to cheaply pacify large swathes of wasteland without bleeding themselves dry.

>>51195683
House eliminates the Kings and acts as an author avatar against the BoS....when Obsidian shoved that bullshit into the mouths of the BoS in the first place because uh oh, thats a faction that should rightfully be dangerous enough to backhand the NCR if it. It gets too stupid. Every golden ending of the previous games has the BoS integrating with the outside.
>>51195697
Nah...kill Ulysses and harvest the tech of the Madre and BigMT.
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>>51196286
>No. Its an amalgamation of everything bad. Technophobes, misogyny so hardcore itd make 1st gen Muslims jealous, and generally untenable practices?
That's their downside. Many say they're unstable and will collapse. While they're standing, they provided sizable defenses and order for their enslaved lands.
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>>51196018
>if the lore isnt absolutely perfect then its all wrong
So you only play tetris then?
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>>51196286
>acts as an author avatar against the BoS
EVERYONE has something against the Brotherhood in Fallout. The Master, Enclave, NCR, Legion, House, Institute, Railroad, etc.
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>>51194391
>20 fucking years and spartans still have absolutely no idea how this thing reloads
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>>51196491
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I have my version, based on facts that don't line up with others, but it's the version I think is best, both in fit and aestetic and theme, and that's all anyone has, their preferred list of half the irreconcilable facts. There is no reconciliation possible between canon statements intended to contradict, so just be honest about picking your faction.
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>>51183373
is that normal? full auto and burst?
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>>51196286
1. You can actually save the Kings with some trickery.
2. It doesn't matter for the purposes of choosing who's the best option from an internal perspective that writing shenanigans warped the story into what it is. From the perspective of someone *in* the position to make the decision, you have to accept that the BOS is a loony cult that would massacre Innocents if you diddnt stop them, even if they were only written into being that by hacks.
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>>51196286
Envious, you meant envious.
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>>51187571
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>>51193319
For me, it's the Kampfer's massive shotgun.
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>>51197387
How are you supposed to hold one of these bullpup pistols with one hand?
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>>51197477
thumb goes through thumbhole
ejecting the mag seems tricky with only one hand though
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>>51197477
It's been ages since I read through or watched Appleseed but if memory serves right it's one of the cyborg-scale guns, so it's not exactly meant for human hands or actual sighting.
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>>51197473
I also love the ridiculous en-block bazooka clips in The Origin.
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>>51196478
A downside would be that they are a semi-nomadic horde that follows a cult of personality. Shitass writing has them being weird technology haters. They aren't presented as an alternative, they are a strawman of everything JSawyer, CAvellone and buddies didn't like.

I refuse to discuss or engage the idea of Ed's Leejun on the basis that its so shit it breaks immersion. Similar to the scene in Transformers 2 by Bay where they made a testicle joke out of wrecking balls. Instead of, you know, USING the wrecking balls....to wreck shit. At least at first.

There is no possible discussion of the Watsonian perspective when, from that perspective, its completely stupid and nonsensical and the only possible observation left is the Doylist one.

That Michael Bay didn't have someone to slap him.

Like say, Hitler attempting to genocide Bavaria because Lederhausen are too Gypsy...
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>>51197663
extremely reddit opinion of baykino
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>>51197693
DESU, its that exact scene and only that one that bugs me in that way. It was the only time something broke my SoD and brought me out of the movie and back into the theatre.

Traumatized and angered me.

This is also why I didnt comment on the Halo Reach talk. Because thats been covered on a website that has went to complete fucking shit over the last few years, after going mostly to shit from 2012 to 2018. And it isn't this one.

The only summary of Reach and its plot worth typing is: No, They Fucked Up And It Should Have Been A Movie Of The Book.
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>>51197758
>>51197758
>DESU
what the fuck? Oh hey a new filter. TBHTBH
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>>51197512
But wouldn't you have to like... Kink your wrist?
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>>51197769
>new
Lurk moar faggot
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>>51197758
Holy shit am I talking to a spacebattler.
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>>51197769
>new
Its been in place since at least 2016 you nerd
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>>51197663
The legion is best for all the territory they have, NCR is best for their territory, and House is best for his. Three strong states, who have all spread as far as they can without cracking apart.
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>>51191428
What's wrong with it?
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>>51190421
>Are spartan 4s huge? I know that in reach 3s are shorter than 2s. Spartan 4s are supposed to be mass production spartans like 3s and even adults and odsts can join the spartan 4 program, how do they make them taller?
They get augmentations, which I believe are sort of a mixture of surgical/chemical augmentations (like a mix of IIs and IIIs augmentations) but not to the extreme that IIs and IIIs got.
The thing with IVs though is their armor does most of the heavy lifting, so a IV in GEN2 MJOLNIR is about on par with a Spartan II in MKIV MJOLNIR in terms of physical capabilities (don't know what the numbers are with GEN3 MJOLNIR)
In terms of height the halopedia lists SPARTAN IVs like Edward Buck at about 6'9 (presumably with armor on) so they're about as big as Spartan IIIs are, but I'd imagine with as much variability as there is with Spartan IVs they are probably anywhere within the realm of 6'5 -6'9. For comparison SPARTAN IIs pretty much all clock out at over 7'0 in armor, with Master Chief being 7'2 in MJOLNIR. I think a good estimation is like this:
>SPARTAN IIs: 7'0-7'6
>SPARTAN IIIs: 6'6-6'10
>SPARTAN IVs: 6'5-6'9
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>>51197799
>Holy shit am I talking to a spacebattler.
Damn. And yes. Sort of. I got banned loads of times, socked about as much too. So I mostly lurked and enjoyed the threads.

But....

These last few years I can't even do that, they ripped the heart and fucking soul of content right out of the site, even the people I didn't like or hated. Its child sites, Ive been banned from a few of those too, regret getting banned from two of them. But that community is fucking dead. Covid panicking was its gravestone. And somehow I also got permabanned from the Farms, but at least that site is still entertaining and sometimes performs news aggregation duties almost as well as SB did.

>>51197859
What in the fuck?


also. entirely wrong thread for this. But Bob Whitaker's old videos of DICTA and The Weakest Generation appear to have been yeeted from youtube.
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>>51197991
and looking for the on youtube brings up insanity wards and West Virginia poverty and incest families.

good joke
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>>51197663
>A downside would be that they are a semi-nomadic horde that follows a cult of personality. Shitass writing has them being weird technology haters. They aren't presented as an alternative, they are a strawman of everything JSawyer, CAvellone and buddies didn't like.
A result of being low-tech, unable to easily get more, and believing overreliance on tech makes people weak. They strength and weakness is that. They don't need to do extensive maintenance on their equipment and can survive through raiding and getting more resources as they go. On an individual level, they're trained from birth and have very high physical conditioning. Their upbringing means they're willing to charge positions others would be too afraid to. In Fallout, individual people are capable of huge strength or endurance you wouldn't see in real life. Graham's survivability, Lanius the 7 foot butcher, the standard person survives unprotected contact with radiation levels that would kill a real life person. With fearless numbers thanks to all the conquered tribes, the Legion's able to fight against technologically superior enemies by throwing bodies at it. Against other tribes which they're willing to weaken with spies and deception or other post apocalyptic enemies, they have reason they do well enough.
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>>51197951
Everything. Too many gribbly bits.
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>>51197991
>Sber
You've got to tell me, cmon, who is this.
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>>51185735
Is there any lore that says this is actually how the guns work because I've never seen anything in game that suggests this, in fact I've never seen a single gun that gets loaded with a mag full of glimmer and instead they usually have actual bullets in them, even the gun in that webm.
The only weird but common guns are Omolon guns since they shoot some kind of liquid, otherwise exotics do weird shit like being powered by a dude that got turned into a bug or something but exotics are usually one of a kind, everything else seems to be a conventional firearm.
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>>51197991
Currently the legion owns a bunch of territory that would be nothing but mad max savages eating each other. They are a step up for everything they conquered up till Vegas and a step down for everything they might conquer from then on. The NCR should continue to exist, but expansion will only weaken them and their society, making it more of a bloated government and less fair to citizens. House built Vegas, he saved it, he maintains it, and as long as he runs it it supports not only itself but the regional trade economy. He's the best man to run Vegas.
Three strong states rather than one weak bloated state. It's better that way.
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>>51198004
At least it seems like functional gribble. I'd argue the Halo 4 AR is worse
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>>51198102
Dahl is the brand that makes my dick hard in those games.

Jacobs or Tediore for pistols, Dahl or Maliwan (or sometimes Hyperion) for SMGs, Dahl for rifles (accept no substitutes) and usualy Jacobs for shotguns and snipers.
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>>51198065
>Currently
I'm not engaging in the Watsonian debate dude. They aren't good enough to justify it. They are more of strawman than the antagonists of the Posleen War Series. If you want to do this, you have to explain how they have so much disposable manpower when their recruitment and conversion practices are much shittier than 1st Gen Islam. For the 1st century, the Arabs converted more people than they killed. And they killed a lot of people.

This happened because they typically asked first and then attacked. They also provided alternatives. And while they were incredibly rapacious, more likely than not, even Dhimmi's kept their families intact and their tribal identity alive if they survived the initial conquest.

Ed's Legion, instead of a legitimate alternative to the NCR, is a slapdash mismash of early Islam and late era Mongols. And it makes no sense. They'd have to constantly fight village after village to the death and then some, all without having any large advantage. All while not having a large base of manpower to begin with.

And it appeared out of nowhere with little impetus beyond one guy suddenly being a bit more ruthless. While being exactly the sort of thing that would get nipped in the bud by the Desert Rangers, who had been operating and likely building strength....for over a century at that point.

Its pure amalgamated bullshit from a Doylist perspective, and hardly deserves a Watsonian one, because the alternative for Obsidian in their last hurrah would be the Desert Rangers managing to piece something together, or more likely, the Brotherhood of Steel being a major faction with all their earlier expeditions east paying off.

Perhaps the NCR manages to drive them out of California entirely, only to run into them in the Mojave and the rest of the Southwestern deserts.

Or the best option, in that the Midwestern Brotherhood "falls" because the recruited tribals assassinate the Elders and make their way West.
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>>51198206
The designs for maliwan weapons in 3 were not that great in my opinion. Too many of them look like super soakers. Some of them are great like the Hellshock but then sometimes you get pic related. 2's maliwan weapons looked so much better.
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>>51189286
I'm pretty sure it's broken. I can make a build with higher DPS than the deepcore on paper, but it doesn't behave that way in actual gameplay.
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>>51198231
Maliwan peaked in the first game.
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>>51197961
A Spartan IV got beat down in melee by a fat marine sergeant. Master Chief at half his current size with no armor killed three men with one punch each before they could move.
Also, Hunters in the dark has Spartan IVs as inferior to Spartan IIs across the board armor or not.
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>>51198231
Thunderball Fists is OP though
Sure it looks dumb, but I always thought that was Maliwan's aesthetic. "If Apple™ made a machine gun"
Honestly, the green-tier dahl subguns look so good I kind of want to buy some cheap mp7 knockoff to try to build up to one.
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>>51198218
There’s no problem with the in-universe or out. They’re a bunch of tribes united together holding values order even if it means extreme oppression. In a way, they’re the past to the NCR’s obsession with their modern America (our America plus futuristic tech minus oil) and House’s plan for the future.

They’re not based on Islam, they’re the Romans which ironically behave like Gaulic tribes. They had a huge base before the events of the story because they were able to expand. Part of the point about the NCR is that their bureaucracy slows them. Tribes, nations and groups come and go in Fallout. A tribe gaining a lot of momentum and conquering isn’t unheard of.

They also recruited heavily through manipulation like Vulpes or tribes who see a bigger force and want to be part of it for protection, resources, etc. They started small and got bigger and recruited more and more tribes that know how to survive a post apocalyptic wasteland. In spite of their savagery, they are trained and coordinated, capable of tactics and making tribes surrender. They can sabotage, use spies to ruin them from within, or something more creative like irradiating Camp Searchlight or the Twisted Hairs. Once they had enough momentum that’s not stopped by lacking repairs for high tech weapons, plenty folded through seeing a threat they can’t beat or being fooled until it’s too late. It’s been a lifetime since their founding and more than enough rape babies to have numbers. By the time they fought the Desert Rangers, they had too much momentum and numbers.
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>>51198323
>There’s no problem with the in-universe or out.
Oh Im dealing with an actual retard.

one sec.
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>>51198218
>If you want to do this, you have to explain how they have so much disposable manpower when their recruitment and conversion practices are much shittier than 1st Gen Islam. For the 1st century, the Arabs converted more people than they killed. And they killed a lot of people.
Easy as pie. Logistics and power for survival. Legion is a fully capable self-sufficient army. How many times do you kill legionaries, only to loot their corpses to find abundant amounts of maize, purified water, and healing powders? A dead NCR trooper only carries his weapon, his dogtags, and a few bullets, perhaps a little money if he survived long enough to get paid. Do not forget that compared to the average NCR soldier who's just a green-horned farmer used to living with protection, Legionaries are hardened former tribals used to survive in the harsh Wastelands of Arizona, so they are capable of living off the land if their supply lines fail. They have resources and ways to get resources and what useful knowledge from assimilated tribes. The White Legs and Great Khans both wanted to join the Legion. Joining them means raiders attacking you are attacking a stronger target.
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>>51197663
>They aren't presented as an alternative
>strong military and can provide security to its lands
Sure
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>>51197663
This is often very misunderstood. You must understand that the Legion is only 35 years old - roughly 30 years of which has been spent conquering and absorbing tribes that mostly use only the most basic technology and medicine - naturally the Legion's arsenal is going to be restricted. The most advanced weaponry and technology is reserved for the higher ranking officers, whose lives are more valuable due to both their greater experience and skill in combat and their importance as commanding officers and leaders within the Legion's hierarchy. Those in the lower ranks receive much more basic equipment, given their lives are proportionately less valuable. Among Legionaries you will find: cowboy repeaters, hunting rifles, sniper rifles, hunting shotguns, marksman carbines and anti-material rifles. The very first RECRUIT legionaries you encounter in Nipton are armed with cowboy repeaters. The quest Birds of A Feather even features Legion Frumentarii attempting to secure a large shipment of ENERGY WEAPONS from the Van Graffs to supply the military, surely putting to bed this collective delusion that the Legion refuses to use advanced Weaponry. Hell, what distinguished the Blackfoot tribe from others in the area when Caesar took over was the fact that he taught them how to use guns effectively and manufacture explosives. The only thing in the game to suggest an outright distaste for technology would be Caesar's comment that the Legion "needs warriors, not gadgets." however his concern with this is the fact that if he allows machines to win his battles for him, the Legion will lose its willingness to sacrifice - which is one of the Legion's main strengths. It's not the technology he opposes, but rather when that technology becomes a crutch.
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>>51184676
I love armory studios
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>>51197663
>technology haters
The legion isn’t all that anti tech. Thermic lances and power sledges used by centurions. Caesar thinks too much comfort tech = complacent. Same reason he doesn’t want drugs. He wants them hardened at all times.
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>>51194389
>Additionally it can engage targets too "light" to be worth a BOLO/Titan's time or ordinance.
Fair point, but that would still suck as a scout tank even if you could find some magitech way to increase its speed. The idea of it being a design for heavy mining equipment also plays into the setting much better, as was pointed out the vast majority of 40k military vehicles/gear were exploratory/industrial gear that got militarised because they needed a main battle tank more than they needed an agricultural tractor
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>>51198338
I think you're talking to like four different people.
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>>51198280
I keep sending by this. What Spartan 4 lost to a marine? And when?
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>>51198466
>scout vehicles have to be sneaky meme
Anon, when you're on a battlefield where megaton grade firepower is getting thrown around like small arms fire anything smaller/less armored just doesn't survive long enough to do anything.
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>>51198056
Anon, the "glimmer" gets transmuted into a bullet, which is fired normally. The bullets get telported/replicated Star Trek style, while "less" advanced weapons just have their ammo/mags fabricated in your inventory. The glowing boxes you pick up are the glimmer used for this purpose.
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>>51197991
Spacebattles used to be so fucking dope, it was pretty much big brain 4Chan, with Mods and Jannies who were cool as fuck. The Creative Writing was a absolutely FANTASTIC board, and even today it's still pretty good.
>trannie usmc tanker got so BTFO that it quit the internet
Tom Kratman used to troll the absolute shit out of Spacebattles, so much so that he KILLED MEMBERS in his books, which got published, and he GOT PAID FOR.
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The Halo ar is tight but I also really like the bfg from doom
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>>51198651
Because there's no such thing as orbital/aerial surveillance, and you can't strap some nuke resistant shield onto a sneakier vehicle - right?
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>>51198280
>A Spartan IV got beat down in melee by a fat marine sergeant. Master Chief at half his current size with no armor killed three men with one punch each before they could move.
I'm assuming the fat marine sergeant probably beat an unarmored Spartan IV, which is likely possible since IVs augmentations are not nearly as extensive as previous generations, with the armor doing most of the work for them regarding their capabilities. Chief beating up a bunch of ODSTs right after his augmentations still proves just how extensive and otherworldly the Spartan IIs augmentations were.
>Also, Hunters in the dark has Spartan IVs as inferior to Spartan IIs across the board armor or not.
I implied as much. Even with the numbers being that a Spartan IV in GEN2 armor has the same capabilities as a Spartan II in MKIV armor, it still implies that they are at a disadvantage against IIs since MKIV armor was the first ever MJOLNIR armor issued to Spartans IIs, so it's not as advanced as GEN2 or GEN3, which also means that the power discrepancy between IIs vs IVs is still massive when they're both wearing the most current MJOLNIR armors.
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>>51198418
>You must understand that the Legion is only 35 years old - roughly 30 years of which has been
Yeah its bullshit. Have them start out earlier with no relation to California save the most tenuous and maybe. But its entirely bullshit.
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>>51198855
>a Spartan IV in GEN2 armor has the same capabilities as a Spartan II in MKIV armor
Adding to this, this isn't too bad a result for a project that accepts adult volunteers and is allegedly way safer than II augments. Even an unarmored II would cream an ODST, so getting around the level of a II in obsolete armor, even if you need the latest armor to get there, would've been a godsend in the Human-Covenant war. Buck described them well. Not as good as predecessors but damn good enough for the job.
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>>51198822
>anything flying
>with op as fuck lasers and missiles
Anon the Imperium dosen't use satellites, because even with their potatotech they get shot to pieces instantly. Anything flying in DAoT would have to possess starship grade shielding just to exist.
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>>51183373
Kinda doubt anyone will know the show, but I always like the rifles for S:AaB. Kinda low budget, aliens-esque but with its own spin. Like the massive grip trigger so you can use it in space easily.
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>>51188073
Halo could have at least kept the ass on the Spartans
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>>51197399
I want one
>>51195369
>pattern established in 1, 2, and Tactics. The Brotherhood going out there and getting shit done.
What Fallout 1 and 2 did you play? Fuck I guess they kinda participate in FO1, but only barely considering the gravity of the thread, but they do fuck all in 2.
>>51197663
Nah its not a strawman, its just the running out of time to do a properly nuanced faction and cutting the content of the one they could get away with not having. They would have gotten cruicified by normies/normy media if they'd made CL the fleshed out "main" faction choice without a proper nominally "good" faction as well.
The design docs and cut content for the legion show it could have been so much better.
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>>51197758
>>51197799
>>51197991
>>51198041
>>51198769
Hey SB'er bros, I was banned there a while back. Site's gone to shit lmao.
Wish it was better but ya know, commies gotta commie.
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>>51183373
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>>51183397
Say what you want about the quality of the movie itself, but the CARB was a fucking cool bit of world building
>3D printed for ISRU manufacturing on distant colonies
>Hyper modular, with shared parts between entire family of weapons from shotguns to sniper rifles.
>G11 style caseless in rifle form
>XM25 style airburst in GL form
>Shotgun and GL ammunition compatible.
Just fucking neat. Shame the movie wasn't better.
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>>51183515
Lol
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>>51183917
>t.
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>>51199240
James Cameron is the biggest autist when it comes to detail and I wish more directors put the amount of effort he does to make things immersive and believable. Also
>you will never shoot aliens on a space shuttle retrofitted as a bomber with a triple barrelled machine gun.
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>>51199329
What about Kubrick?
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>>51198935
>Anything flying in DAoT would have to possess starship grade shielding just to exist.
So ... like any of the huge number of OP as fuck ships that were available in the DAoT?
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>>51194783
>dumbass marines routinely tank 5 plasma bolts to their unshielded faces without so much as a scratch
heads aren't a vital body part for marines
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>>51198953
That show was the tits when I was a kid. Rewatching was a mistake.
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>>51183520
>we need a futuristic vector carbine like every other scifi game has already done
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>>51195407
That's silly. Any interstellar civ should be able to glass entire planets quickly and efficiently, bullshit FTL or no.
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>>51183378
fuck off you fat boomer retard there will never stop being a vidya presence in /k/
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Helghast shit looks pretty cool
Never even played the games just think it’s cool
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>>51200081
If you have the ability to move a starship at FTL speeds (without some kind of gate network at least) then you already have the ultimate superweapon and planetcracker. Imagine a hundred tonne ship that's mostly just deadweight and a drive colliding with a planet at several times the speed of light. Boom, instant extinction event. Get it moving at a few hundred times the speed of light and there isn't going to be much of a planet left.
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>>51198620
In the comics, there was a training exercise that pitted rookie IVs against veteran marines, basically to show enhanced stats vs experience, and at one point a big fat boomer Marine squared off with a Spartan Four and beat him into the fucking pavement so bad he couldn't continue to fight.
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>>51199047
Not even basic boomer normieCon opinions are allowed there now. The "Conservative Spacebattles" sister site was full of "Ijustwannagrill" cucks who think that Ben Shapiro and Tim Pool are "a little extreme".
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>>51198903
Hunters in the dark had Spartan IVs as significantly inferior in strength and speed to normal Sangheili.
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>>51198855
>Unarmored Spartan IV vs marine
Yeah the problem is that means it's basically 99% the suit and %1 augmentations, which is silly considering all the stress they put on the augmentations. They might as well not give them the augmentations at all if they're still in the range of regular fucking humans.
>Second part
You're not getting it, Hunters in the Dark had IVs in armor as laughably inferior to Spartan IIs were at *any* point. As in it presents a power discrepancy between state of the art Spartan IVs and regular elites, in the elites favor. Let alone Spartan IIs.
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>>51183699
I never got he slapped an aftermarket kit on his grandpa's AK but it's obviously just a big ass optic.
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>>51196710
I wouldn't say normal but some HK trigger packs have it, it's just complex for mechanical systems. I imagine UNSC probably has electronic triggers
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>>51187992
Its detachable in canon.
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>>51200900
>Bolt a TV remote to end of AK-47
>Now it fires 80mm mortar rounds
Seriously what the fuck.
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>>51183373
The gun from the movie Eraser
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The S8-Z Grand Pinger from Army of Two: The 40th Day
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>>51198218
If John ringo ever finished a book series I think the world would end.
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>>51198432
He’s still a fucking retard. Ceasers legion dies with him and even if he somehow survived to the pacific it still die
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>>51188019
My favorite gun in the game was always the EU revolver, but for primary, I loved the Baur. Leave it on semi auto all day and destroy people at all ranges.
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>>51193353
Lemme guess, the bullet belt is the ribbon there.
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>>51202849
>t. never let Caesar die on a pro-legion run
Newsflash, Lucius says he will take up his mantle and run the Legion in his stead. In the ending, Lanius becomes Caesars successor and is stated they captured the west. Everyone who says the Legion dies with Caesar is an idiot
>B-but muh Joshua Graham
Oh you mean the failed tactician that didn't reinforce his position on the dam and proceeded to lose said position trying to chase retreating NCR? That Joshua Graham?
>B-but all the NPCs that hate the Legion says it'll die
Gee, I wonder why they'd want the group they hate to be easily defeated
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>>51202849
Caesars legion is run better than your average African legion of literal rape-cannibals, to say nothing of your average fallout gang of rape-cannibals
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>>51200783
>They might as well not give them the augmentations at all if they're still in the range of regular fucking humans.
The point of the augments is to make them able to wear the suit. No arguments, the suit breaks their limbs just by using it.
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>>51203525
>Newsflash, Lucius says he will take up his mantle and run the Legion in his stead. In the ending, Lanius becomes Caesars successor and is stated they captured the west.
The point everyone makes is about long term survival. It’s a cult of personality around Caesar so it’s about how long they can last after he’s gone. Unused dialogue had Lanius admit he’s unsure what will happen with Caesar gone. As a leader, Caesar is way better than just a general like Lanius. It’s about how any less educated successor can handle the ropes.

And where did it say they captured the west?
>The Legate is crowned as the new Caesar. He entered The Strip as though it was a military target, destroying any one who resisted him. The Legion brutally occupied all major locations, killing and enslaving a large amount of the population. Under the Legion's banner, civilization - savage as it was - finally came to the Mojave Wasteland.
They conquered the Mojave but that’s it.
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>>51204455
I fucking know that, the problem is that if they're still so weak they can get smacked around by marines, then THEY should get killed by the armor too! Do you get it? How can the augmentations make them so strong that they can comfortably wear the suit that'd kill a normal man if they aren't stronger than normal fucking men?
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>>51194742
Based
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>>51204537
>If people are worried about a power transition that's tantamount to admitting there's a 100% chance of failure
Autistic people struggle with scales, they tend to turn them into simple binaries.
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>>51204924
Probably just writers being inconsistent.
Jun said
>Most of them are alright, Musa. And they'll get better. But some of them… some of them are much better.
Buck said
>When I say walking gods, I mean the Spartan-IIs. Like the old Greek Titans in the way that they live among us but are literally head and shoulders better in every way. And they’re just about as hard to kill. The fact we lost so many of them during the Covenant War tells you something about how horrific that conflict was. The soldiers in the SPARTAN-III program were more like your standard gods of myth and legend, the Titans' kids. Hermes and Apollo and Aphrodite and such. If the Spartan-IIs are more powerful than you can imagine, Spartan-IIIs are probably just inside your limits. The Spartan-IVs—my new designation—are like demigods then, the offspring of the real gods. Think Hercules. We can pass for regular people most of the time—something folks would generally have a hard time mistaking the earlier generations for—but inside, we're far more than that.
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>>51204945
Sounds like a massive power transition with no successor that'll be Caesar 2.0 around. Lanius can fight wars but his endings show e's more into killing and doesn't know when to stop chasing a lost cause like the Enclave Remnants. What just about everyone admit is that it'll never be the same without Caesar. Lanius's disgust with Vulpes suggests a Lanius run Legion would have far less subtle tactics and spies and those won them huge victories. It'll be a more brutal but dumber Legion. No successor in game besides maybe the Courier would ever match up to Caesar,
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>>51205145
It doesn't actually have to be as good as Caesar's era to survive, or even thrive, though, just because he would have done better.
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>>51205303
The Legion, to many of its members, is more than just a bunch of bandits or marauders. That’s not just how many losses or scorched earth tactics would Lanius do, it’s also the vision Caesar had. They legitimately believe what they bring is good to the profligates. Lanius would lead them a direction Caesar himself would be unhappy with. They’d be a large, organized group of brutes more alike Super Mutants than having Hoover Dam be his rubicon. And the disdain for subversive tactics Lanius has suggests they’ll alienate parts f their success. Caesar is smart enough to know his limits but Lanius isn’t the same. Lanius would make mistakes Caesar wouldn’t even if they shared the exact same vision on making new civilization and a new government rising from the NCR and Legion’s war.
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>>51183509
I like the little details.
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>>51205406
>than having Hoover Dam be his rubicon
Forgot, it was Hoover Dam as his capital. Caesar said the Colorado river is his rubicon.
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>>51205406
But like I said, that doesn't mean they wouldn't survive. The very fact that they don't break to pieces if Caesar dies day one and Lanius has to take the whole of Vegas attests to the fact that they won't just instantly fall to ruin. Their own momentum will cart them very far, even through sub optimal leadership. Many nations went through periods as precarious as these and emerged and later rose to greater prominence. You have to stop thinking about it as a yes or no WILL they collapse or WILL they be invincible forever and step back and realize fledgeling nations have survived worse, or been killed by better.
Winning at the Dam certainly won't help them though, as a high speech check allows you to point out.
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>>51205757
It’s a group of uneducated lead by an educated, whose immediate successor will lead them to a direction the leader doesn’t want. Caesar wants long term stability at all costs, Lanius wants more conquest. The Courier can point out how overstretched they’d become and how they won’t replenish so easily when raiding communities that aren’t self sufficient.

And Mr. House says why they remained together even if Caesar dies. They want to conquer it in his name and make it a tribute to him. All the preparation don’t disappear. It’s afterwards if Lanius goes on another killing spree through lands they could’ve won through Vulpes or less casualties. Lanius is not a long term visionary, he would waste men chasing an uncatchable target with no result. To emerge better, they need better leadership and unless some educated or sufficiently smart person somehow makes it to the top after Lanius gets rid of Vulpes and other subtle folk, they’re going to be at best a large group of raiders with no goal besides killing and pillaging. Caesar would absolutely hate that.
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>>51205757
>The very fact that they don't break to pieces if Caesar dies day one and Lanius has to take the whole of Vegas attests to the fact that they won't just instantly fall to ruin.
House says why.
>By my calculations, his death will affect the shape of the battle for Hoover Dam minimally, if at all. The Legion's aggression will outlive Caesar. Indeed, they'll try to take the dam as a tribute to his memory.
It's more current momentum will carry them through Hoover Dam at minimum.
>Their own momentum will cart them very far, even through sub optimal leadership.
The question is which direction the momentum will go. Caesar had an idea what he was planning but only a Legion-affiliated Courier would know specifically what he wants. An invasion into the NCR lands without sufficient logistics will be awful for them. They might end up like the Korean War Chinese.
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>>51183373
>mfw the blue toys r us manager is keeping me from an origin story



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