Why does .223 suck so much
>>50822020it doesn't suck if you use the correct load and the right barrel for what you are doing, and stay within 500m, and compensate for its arced trajectory, and aren't dealing with anyone hiding behind cans of beans
>>50822041It's a dumb meme round that literally can't go through a can of beans, intermediate cartridges are on par with handgun calibers.
>>50822053its like a handgun caliber but if you have a decently long barrel it causes your flesh to explode instead of poking a hole through.
>>50822053Bruh. It's one of the most widely stocked rounds, how is it a meme cartridge?
>>5082202055 grain FMJ, 55 yard zero and you are good to 300 yards. It'll ventilate niggers wearing cheap steel armor and wish.com specials better than a 308 will and it doesn't use massive powder charges so your powder supply will last longer. It doesn't suck, it is good enough for almost anything you would need a rifle for. It's just a jack of all trades.
>>50822132>Jack of all tradesIt's not bro it's a light bullet going fast but only in barrel lengths that are gay to use.Cringe round and it sucks.
>>50822132It's also a decent hunting cartridge for predators and is adequate for game up to roe deer, while being cheaper then other cartridges and offering a huge variety of loads by many manufacturers.
>>50822020Because it's a varmint round only suitable for shooting shit like raccoons. simple as
>>50822182stop shooting coyotes anon. they have more of a right to be here than you do. if they ate your cat/dog, they were doing you a favor and telling you to get human friends and keep a cleaner house.
"My diversity advisor said .223 was a meme round!"
>>50822213There ain't no coyotes in Germany, at least where I live. We have foxes, wolves and increasingly golden jackals
>>50822132>Better than 308What are you fucking smoking
>>50822020According to kek,>>50822222OP is both a seething liar and a polesmoking faggot. What a surprise
>>50822222Quints of btfo
>>50822229>willingly telling people you live in one of the most cucked countries in the world This has to be bait
>>50822222>>50822222Lmao how can OP ever recover from this? Time to an hero>put me in the plebbit screen cap
>>50822230Yes 223 is faster and therefore better at penetrating steel shit armor than the 308 is with commonly available ammo. There is a reason that all the steel armor makers started marketing 3+ armor specifically because m193 was piercing their lvl3 shit. Yeah black tip stuff is better than 223, but you can't buy 308 blacktip at academy or cabela's or whatever.
>>50822230velocity is the most important factor in penetration, .308 is a slug compared to non-7.62x39 intermediate cartridges. also it's smaller surface area means less dispersion of kinetic energy. in retard terms, small bullet going very fast punch hole better that large bullet moving not as fast.
>>50822053You do know .223 comes in more shapes than one right? You can get hotter .223 if you’d like. Are you new to shooting?
>>50822171>Thinking 20 inch AR barrels are gayFew have achieved this level of shit taste
>>50822334>7.62x39 >intermediate cartridgewhat a fucking retard kek
>>50822234>>50822240>>50822242>>50822286fucking newfags >PrAiSe KeK!111!!Please make an exit mask, text your dad that he raised a faggot, and stop wasting oxygen
>>50822398intermediate =/= smallbore 7.62x39 and 7.92x33 are first generation intermediate cartridges.
>>50822252/pol/ is the other way
>>50822352They're shit to use and it's literally not a taste thing. Nobody who uses guns for their job uses a 20" barreled 223. They use bigger cartridges at that barrel length because 223 is a cope round that sucks ass outside if its extremely shitty and narrow application of being a drum roll for air support.It's shit.
>>50822171>>50822582>le 223 needs a long barrel memeThe difference between a 20" barrel and a 16" barrel is 120 fps. The velocity dropoff is greater with .308.
>>50822813Where do I find a 26 inch barrel? t. a big guy, for you
>>50822926in a bolt action
>>50822582>drum roll for air support.do people unironically think this
>>50822498Lmao uncharted levels of seethe
>>50822020Because you suck at marksman.
Every answer before this one can be ignored..223/5.56 sucks because it's boring. It's the min/maxed bullet that doesn't warrant a lot of conversation because proof of its efficiency is readily found and easily researched. It's most fun to shoot in a training kind of situation and it's anti-material ability is too tame to get more then a giggle from shooting bottles.It's not worthy of criticism, it's boring to praise, and there isn't a lot of room for improvement.Same for 7.62. Same for 9mm.That's why everyone is itching for some cool new breakthrough to come along. But it won't, not for another decade.
>>50822020Because everyone is shooting it from short barrels. Like buying a Lamborghini and running it on 4 cylinders
I hate this board so much
>>50822222>.22222 caliber when
>>50822498OP is so fucking mad right now. You lost because you’re a fucking loser, get over it
>>50822222Checkkked. Fuck niggers.
>>50822498Settle down nut gobbler, your bait thread got replies, why are you so mad?
Why did a thread have to die because you suck so much?
>>50822222Well OP god answered your bait thread very appropriately. You can stop now.
>>50822205I heard about done people in Kenosha that would say otherwise.
>>50822132>55 yard zeroDumb. 36, 40 and 50 are all better
>>50822020>get his head key holed at 700ydsNgmi
Sucks for hunting. Not because it won't kill a deer, but because of how far it'll usually run before it drops, meaning you now have to drag it much further. Possibly through difficult terrain. For people though, yeah sure why not? You're not trying to take humans home to eat them. Right?
>>50822053>can't even go through muh beeeaannns
>>50822222damn this post is extremely based
>>50822222CheckemKekem that nigga has been on my mind no cap
>>50822222Oh shit, SNEED EM
>>50822222checked, .223 haters eternally BTFO
it doesn't suck, u suck, 5.56 and 5.45 are kino rounds
>>50822109bc it's fucking gay.
>>50822222Oh shit put me in the screen cap beavis
>>50826550Look at that whiney bitch
>>50823066Except no one wants to pay over a dollar a round for something that doesn't do anything that is barely marginal over standard military rounds that are already cheaper, standardized, and more widely available.Cope, hipster faggot.
>>50829493Congrats, you broke the negative IQ barrier.
>>50822020What are you hoping to do with said .223? This isn't COD. This is real life.
>>50822222CHECKED AND CUMMED
>>50822813Why would you shoot 223 from a 16" when you can 308 from an 18" lmao. Joke round.16" for a rifle is too fucking long to not be shooting bigger cartridges.
>>50822956Maybe you should prove him wrong. Isn't it like 30,000 rounds fired for 1 kill overseas? Doesn't sound like there's a lot of killing happening with 5.56.
>>50830407From all accounts I've seen, that includes training rounds. And they can only account for confirmed kills. Compiled with the current doctrine of hosing targets with the 249 till they fuck off, it's pretty nebulous to try and account for the effectiveness of m855 off of just raw statistics
>>50822052>and compensate for its arced trajectoryLiterally one of the reasons 5.56 was picked by the military was because it had the same flat trajectory as 30-06.
>>50826481>It's a good rifle round because it works at point blank range5.56 copium is hilarious. >>50822222Wasted
>>50822053this nigga shootin beans
>>50822222Rekt screencap it
>>50822222>main rifle is an 18" loaded with M193yeah I'm thinking I won