We haven't had an IRA thread in... Too long! I've noticed that it's becoming increasingly difficult to find true information on the weapons, tactics, and particularly the victories of the IRA. Post pics or greentexts or links to true information on the IRA. What do you guys think of them? Freedom fighters? Terrorists? A mixture of both?
>>50813547fucking pig eyed micks.
The music is hilarious and based. This channel has a lot of their songs. https://youtu.be/KX1CSSZa1v0
>>50813547>What do you guys think of them?Dirty Mick subhumans, this is now an Ulster thread
>>50813568Ulster has been disputed territory since ancient times. It will probably always be. Interesting how there are parts of the world like that...Ulster, Afghanistan, Galacia, Eastern Ukraine, Poland, etc.
>>50813568I just want to know the truth about the IRA. It seems that the powers that be really don't like the fact that the IRA couldn't be snuffed out. It's very hard to find info. Even something like a simple video showing how they changed and evolved throughout the war to begin hitting financial targets is nowhere on normie media platforms.
>>50813589Poland is not disputed sweety.It belongs to Poles. Eastern germany and western ukraine however...
>'Come out, ye cowardly Fenians', said he, come out and fight. But he cried, 'I'm only joking', when he heard the Armalite.
>>50813595>the IRA couldn't be snuffed outBut that's not true, it's not around anymore. British intelligence penetration into it severely crippled it near the end.
>>50813598>It belongs to Poles.Fact check: untrue
>>50813603What's left of the IRA is a pale shadow. The Dail in general is terribly corrupt and does not serve the Irish people or give a shit about the future of Ireland. Globalist cockweasels the lot of em.
>>50813607cope, seethe, dial „8”
>>50813603It doesn't need to be around. War is the continuation of politics by other means, and it simply transitioned back into a political contest when the guerilla warfare had served it's purpose.
>>50813618The only one coping is Poland, trying to cope with the fact they're going get ran over by Germany and Russia for all of eternity. Today they sell themselves out to Germany and the EU.
>>50813547Im not going to pretend to fully understand the whole situation over there, I have no place to say it but the Irish and the British need to stay on their own islands.
This man did nothing wrong.
>>50813614This the Irish struggled for so long to regain their homeland and now they're called racist for not accepting third world hordes. Globalists in the daily will do more harm to the Irish people through immigration in 2 decades then the English could in twenty
>>50813547Deal or No Deal>Ireland is liberated from Britain>Abortion is now legal
>>50813624Still mad about our law being declared superior to EU law, huh Hans?.We have been invaded, occupied, terrorized but bottom line is this: we’re still here. Meanwhile: Germany will become Turkey within this century
>>50813715English are even more globohomo’d these days, fren.The minor differences in extent of kike subversion are irrelevant, they’re both fucked.
>>50813547Can you get good weed in Ireland?
Years ago some anons had graphics and greentexts detailing how the IRA did everything. I used to see it posted on Terrorwave threads. Does anyone have any recommended books that don't simply paint the IRA as "muh bad guys?"
best fashion. but mainly literal retards. they had a mission statement but it wasnt about that to 90% of them
>>50813765Abortion is so minor of an issue in the grand scheme of things that I don't understand why so many people flip out about it.Personally, yes, I am against it. I think it's a terrible thing to take the life of an unborn child. However, I would rather that be the case than hundreds of thousands of unwanted children being forced into the world to live lives where they're either resented by their parents or stuffed into an already overstretched system of being wards of the state, where they have very few actual prospects.I think that first trimester abortions are thus a reasonable compromise, but that there should remain social stigma to getting an abortion. It should be legal, but heavily stigmatized and discouraged.
>>50814911Thank you for your tweet.
>>50814911Not trying to get off topic but you started it. It's totally unreasonable. Good men don't let babies be murdered. Secondly it is not unreasonable to ask women to pick one of the TWELVE FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL. Even if you couldn't there are THREE FORMS of the plan B type options a woman takes the day after. Obviously if we think about it the only logical time to confer personhood is conception so I disagree with the use of the morning after stuff but c'mon just keep your legs closed or use birth control rather than murdering your own baby. How hard is it not to let a dude cum in you when you can get pregnant?
>>50814988Anon, it’s 2021, you should’ve realized long ago that the majority of people are stupid
>>50813547murderers like the uvf
>>50814988>Obviously if we think about it the only logical time to confer personhood is conceptionThere is nothing obvious about that. It's completely arbitrary. A freshly fertilized egg is as much a person as the skin cells you scrub off of your hands when you wash them.
>>50813547Best terrorwave aesthetic.Also, commies, so no.
>>50814988Birth Control is not 100% effective. My own conception was the result of a broken condom while my mother was also taking birth control pills. She also took the Morning After pill, but apparently some tweak of genetics meant that there was a 1 in 10 chance that her having a minor flu rendered Plan B ineffective.And so I was still conceived. Furthermore, conception can happen from precum and one can't always control their orgasm. Accidents happen. It is better to have alternatives in place in case of accidents, or, Gods forbid, a pregnancy resulting from Rape, as happens to a great many women and girls. Should women be forced to bear the child of the man who raped them? Should boys who have been raped by women be stuck in a position where the state mandates they pay child support? There are extenuating circumstances that must be taken into account, not just your own moral framework.IMO people shouldn't be fucking anyone they aren't in a committed relationship with anyways, and especially shouldn't be fucking if they can't handle the possibility of pregnancy, but like I said, that doesn't mean abortion should be illegal. I personally find it abhorrent the way that the Abortion industry functions. But again, that's me. I don't think it's correct to force my morality upon others just as I think that others' morality being forced upon me is wrong.
>>50815250>I don't think it's correct to force my morality upon others just as I think that others' morality being forced upon me is wrong.In a vacuum, you have a point. In our current society however, their morality being forced onto you is seen as just and righteous whereas yours is seen as evil. So you can sit back and stick with your notion here and have things go their way knowing that you lost but did so with your head held high (nobody will care that you did) or you can at least try and fight it.
Guys. /pol is right over there. Unless you are trying to trigger the jannies, of course.
>>50815308So keep it to first trimester. That seems a reasonable compromise. There's no brain activity during that period anyways.. I do not believe that life begins at conception, but rather that it begins at the point that you have a fully formed heart and brain activity. Until then it may as well be a Tumor IMO.Ancient gaelic peoples had something resembling abortion anyways, just far more brutal than what science has created now. It would usually involve drinking some kind of poison or consuming food that would bring on a miscarriage. There is a need for abortions, whether we like it or not, and it simply makes sense for that need to be filled by medical personnel rather than some cunt in a backroom without sterilized equipment or a professional reputation to uphold.Again, Just because it's available doesn't mean it should be encouraged. It should, by all reasonable discourse, be heavily discouraged and someone saying "I got an abortion" should lose some respect in society's eyes. But it should still be an option for the sake of human decency.
>>50813547terrorists who hid behind civilians to kill more civillians
IRA based end of story
>>50815105Yes there is something obvious about it because there are no good arguments to place personhood at any other point. Does the vagina magically confer personhood? No. So we know it's not being born. Does consciousness make you a human? What if you're in a coma for 9 months can we stab you in the head? No. Does merely being in an early stage of development make you not a human? No a 2 year olds a human and they're just in an early stage of development. To say that it's just a mass of cells is not true. At the very least it's still a potential life or life on the earliest stage of development and requires more respect than "some skin cells on your hand." >>50815250I'm the result of precum. My daughter is the result of failed contraceptive. So just use multiple. Use birth control or an implant (the name escapes me atm) AND a condom. There's no excuse for this happening. I knew the risks and I chose to risk it. Now I have to raise a child. (Not that I view it as bad.) They need to eliminate the risk is the point. >Should a rape victim be forced to carry the child?The answer is never "let's kill my baby.">I don't force my morality on others. I feel you but morality is objective. Someone shooting your father in the face is OBJECTIVELY wrong. It doesn't matter if your morality says something different. Now if that's true, and it is, then that makes abortion evil, and yes you do have to oppose evil if you want to be good. If people are stabbing toddlers in the head you can't just sit idly by and say that you don't want to ruffle feathers. I get it dude, it's a bad situation, I wish we weren't even having to have this conversation. I wish everyone just fell in love and got married and had kids and those kids grew up with 2 loving parents. The answer is never killing your baby though.
>>50816204Stfu, fucking bri*tt
>>50817883What about if his father is a killer evil rapist who plans on killing and raping more children? Can I shoot his father in the face then? Or is it no longer "objectively" wrong? Playing the devil's advocate here but I agree with you GENERALLY speaking. The important thing to understand from this is that NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS.
What books did the IRA use and recommend? And what of the UVF/UVA, did they have any?
>conceded to the superior englishman>haven't been live for close to 40 years nowit's overyou taig cunts bottled it
>>50813568kek even with the support of the british police and military the loyalist paramilitaries were complete fuck ups. It's telling when their greatest boast is that they accidentally killed an IRA guy in a crowd one time.
>>50813547You might be better off going to /his/ for this. There are lads who actually know a lot about this there. This thread is just going to summon a load of seething anglos who will talk completely out of their arses
>>50818453>t. bottlejob papistcope
>>50818023tick tock orangecuck
>>50813547As long as they kill british children i support them
>>50818006>And what of the UVF/UVAthey just got herded around by british intelligence and still managed to fail at basically everything
>>50817991Even in that case you would be committing a wrong to prevent a greater wrong. > Killing a murderous paedo < Letting said murderous paedo do his thing.But killing a baby is such a grievously evil act that you would have to reach into the realm of wild hypotheticals to justify it. The only such realistic one I can think of is if a very young girl is raped and the continuation of the pregnancy is going to be life threatening to both mother and child.HOWEVER, inconvenience is absolutely not a justifiable greater evil for murdering a baby.
>>50813547AS far as tactics go, see pic related
>>50820001Fuck, one digit off
>>50817991Ok I should have specified that someone shooting your father in the face *IN COLD BLOOD* is objectively wrong. If you want the nitty gritty the issue is in the difference between objective and absolute moral values. They sound like the same thing but there's a subtle but important difference. It may be objectively wrong to do something but not absolutely wrong. Like it's wrong to kill people objectively but it may not be absolutely wrong, if someone breaks into your house, tries to kill you, etc. So what's the difference between objective and absolute? The easiest way to go over that is in thinking of the opposites of the words. The opposite of objective is subjective which is dependent on the individual and the opposite of absolute is relative, which depends on the situation. In any case little reflection is needed to see the difference between subjective and relative. I just wanted to have a fun IRA thread not argue the pro life position. I don't even want to debate politics. >Jannies if you see this just nuke the thread.
>>50820001THANK YOU! That's what I wanted.
I don't know much about this so sorry if I'm being retarded, but -Has there been a right-wing or conservative strand of IRA during the troubles?Like obviously they had all been nationalist, and given the catholicism had also had certain views on abortion etc. And I think I understand the reasons behind IRA's embrace of left-wing politics or socialism.But I'm wondering if there ever was some marginal tiny IRA splinter group that would instead paint itself as right-wing capitalists, or the "cultural" policies associated with the right-wing today, like no immigration, or anti-globalism (i.e. anti-EU), all that sort of stuff.
>>50821912I should clarify, I am asking specifically about the post WW2 period, and the troubles in particular.
>>50818485A united Ireland is inevitable
>>50813547There is a reason why there haven't been IRA threads you dumb fucking wannabe potatonigger.They are nothing but commie faggots now and should be treated as such.
>>50814911It most definetly is not a minor issue. It worsens the birthrates of European and otherwise western countries by quite a bit. Which then leads to a host of other problems.
>>50813547As a Brit, I hate the IRA. Their sense of superiority, their taunting, their murdering of kids. However, the prods are just as bad and also belong in the bin. I've come round to the view that a united Ireland is both inevitable and none of the UK's business any more. The North is a drain on Britain's resources, all the people there are fucking scum who hate the average Brit for either existing or for not really caring that much about preserving the holiness of either retarded catholicism or retarded protestantism. They hate us almost as much as they hate each other. It's a toxic society - the only places in the UK where there's sectarian issues are where there's overspill from Norn Iron (Glasgow and Liverpool). Tbh we should have made Ireland a dominion with its own parliament and free elections in 1910 and let them fight.
>>50821912Don't look at the Troubles as left vs right right. Don't look at them as Catholic vs Protestant or even Irish vs British. Look at it as an anti-imperialist struggle during the very final moments of what remained of the British Empire. The Republicans took on a gloss of internationalist socialism to appeal to gain sympathy abroad. It was in vogue at the time. Look at Cuba, look at the PLO, and what was going on in Africa at the time. Internationalist socialism was the aesthetic of anti-imperialism, but not every group that donned was really that serious about socialism.
>>50823561>Their sense of superiority, their taunting, their murdering of kidsThey said the same about you.
>>50813547I want to hear A Lady of Reput's IRA IED story
So if Ireland were to gain its independance, what would prevent, say, China from rolling up on them and annexing them cause they are dinky shitburg that has no nukes?How can Ireland be independent if it is no longer a member of NATO?
>>50826416Do you think the US would grand Ireland its independence if they allowed us to install missile bases there?I mean whats England going to do, sick Canada on us?
>freedom fighters>targets civilians in 98% of killings>losewhat went wrong lads
>>50813765Sounds like a win win.
>>50813614Join the National Party then
free and united ireland soonthen we take the fight to the brits and wipe the floor with their bad teeth havin asses
>>50821908You're welcome, fren
>>50826859Nigga please, Irish look practically indistinguishable from Brits, including the ugly fridge-bodied women. Hell, about 25% of England’s population and some 30% of Scotland’s have Irish ancestry, that’s overwhelming concentrated in the lower classes because they’re the descendent’s of famine immigrants. Your average Norf meme, especially in Liverpool and Manchester, is probably of Paddy blood.
>>50813765is there supposed to be a downside?
>>50826431Ireland follows a policy of neutrality (hence not part of NATO), and it’s actually the lefty Sinn Fein types that oppose any American military presence (see Shannon airport dispute).>>50826416> So if Ireland were to gain its independance, what would prevent, say, China from rolling up on them and annexing them cause they are dinky shitburg that has no nukes?Brainlet, with no geopolitical acumen who thinks international politics is played like HoI4. Why would China (only one overseas base in Djibouti) launch an expeditionary war of conquest to annex an island, with no significant strategic resources, half-way around the world, all so they can rule over 6 million white people? Even if you were to presuppose the US and NATO wouldn’t try to intervene from China directly annexing a European state they have no reasonable claim to, or that relations would not be irreparably damaged with the EU, why would it be worth it. You would have to now administer your new province of Ireland (so sort out their problems like housing crisis, budget deficits), pay for a military occupation at the end of a very long logistics chain, just to own the paddies.
>>50818680>killing a baby is such a grievously evil actIts really not any more evil than any other killing if you think about it reasonably. Some would say it might even be a lesser evil since less human experience is lost. Babies can be replaced more easily and quickly than an adult.
>>50826416>>50828510China is never going to behave like a 19th century European colonial power, randomly annexing weak sates with no strategic value for essentially reasons of prestige. The Chinese model of imperialism is setting up to follow the 20th century American model: economic domination of foreign nations finance systems and a carefully woven web of alliances, subversion of potentially hostile states, coups to install friendly government etc. Basically, “informal” imperialism by promoting an international system that bounds nations states into your sphere of influence. Actually conquering countries is expensive and highly counterproductive in most cases. For Europe, China has an opportunity due to the declining relations between the US and EU, to foster economic ties and try pry Europe away from America’s sphere of influence. Randomly turning an irrelevant island nation into a military colony on Europe’s doorstep wouldn’t exactly be helpful.
>>50813568What’s with the red fist and star of david?
>>50813568They're far better at killing each other than Republicans are.
>>50828510>>50828605China was a bad example, but its pretty much guaranteed if your a little fish with no allies, somebody is going to gobble you up.
>>50828510>Ireland follows a policy of neutrality (hence not part of NATO)bro, thats what i mean. Ireland still belongs to the UK on paper. What happens when they have to renegotiate terms with their old allies?
>>50813547I mean have you ever given thought to 'greater ireland'? the irish diaspora and their role in global politics? The world is bigger than just your little island..
>>50820001I swear someone did a whole series of these a while back, I remember one for the Congo and another for Rhodesia. Do you have the rest of these?
>>50813607shut up faggot
>>50831019>How would you partition? Uh..., on the basis of spoken language? Like, the German speakers are Germany, and the Polish speakers' area are Poland?
>>50828601I do not agree with you there.But, by your own admission you do acknowledge that it is the taking of a life. You do not rate it so high as myself in contrast to other human lives but you seem to still afford it the prestige of being human life. Do you still think that the taking of that human life is justified for the sake of convenience?
Whiskey soaked tater apes BTFOd
https://youtu.be/gbgZEHlbUkYFor you.All it takes for you.Is 1 a American born with little irer.
>>50813995Try "The Long War: The IRA And Sinn Fein" by Brendan O'Brien."A Secret History of the IRA" by Ed Moloney is also worth a look,
>>50818006https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Book_(IRA)>The Green Book is a training and induction manual issued by the Irish Republican Army to new volunteers. It includes a statement of military objectives, tactics and conditions for military victory against the British government. This military victory was to be achieved as part of "the ongoing liberation of Ireland from foreign occupiers". The Green Book has acted as a manual of conduct and induction to the organisation since at least the 1950s.
>>50820001Thank you, I've searched for this one for way too long. iirc the guy did an analysis on other groups too in places such as the Basque, Rhodesia. Do you have them?
>>50813547>>50813568Tiocfaidh ár lá.Saor Alba.
>>50813766god i wish ukrainians get some of their land back from you faggots
>>50839571From Germany? I thought the Ukraine's beef was with Russia?
>>50839645ukraine has beef with everybody as it should bestand for your principles or don't live at allukraine should retake krakow
>>50813568>Being a paramilitary for the Mangay
>>50815105All points are arbitrary, so what we're looking for is the least arbitrary point; and conception is when two things that we all agree aren't people (semens/eggs) combine to create something that we all agree will be a person (either right then or at birth) assuming there is no interference.
>>50818006>>50832077I've read it, really all the Green Book says is to shut the fuck up. Don't talk to your friends about being a Provvie, don't talk to the cops when you get arrested, just don't talk in general and everything should be fine.
>>50839749truth be told, people even these days underestimate the power of shutting the fuck up and minding their own business. It's definitely one of the most useful advices. Both in an insurgency and in life.
>>50813547Never really liked them desu, but they make the brits SEETHE so pretty based
>>50820001do you have the other ones like it?Thanks btw
>be mick near derry>waiting for a shot on a copper>he shows up>wearing armor vest>forgot my fmj rounds>fuck>wait, it only covers his chest>put two 5.56 into his lower abdomen and pelvis>skedaddle>later find out he bled out before the ambulance arrived bc lol femoral artery>mfw
>>50839749and it's right. All the forensic shit in the world is useless compared to one moron who doesn't know how to shut up. CSI Miami and all the other cop procedurals make you think it's about finding hard evidence, but I would say that 90% of crimes cops solve, it's because somebody talked. You can wipe down guns with ammonia to get rid of prints, burn clothes to get rid of powder residue, scrub barrels with emery powder to anonymize the rifling, burn letters and melt hard drives, but unless you're willing to bury a body you can't stop some dumb fuck from squealing to keep from going behind bars.
>>50829600No, just this one unfortunately
>>50833689Just this one, I don't have the rest
>>50841441This a million times this.I like to think I'm hard as hell. But the truth is that once you get in to an RCMP interrogation room you don't have much hope. They are really really good.You will not outsmart the interrogator. The only chance you have of getting out of it is to shut up and take your licks.Have to talk to the police? SHUT UP shut up
>>50813547>becoming increasingly difficult to find true information on the weapons, tactics, and particularly the victories of the IRAWhy, are all the old sources getting deleted or something?>Aptitude for Destruction, Volume 2: Case Studies of Organizational Learning in Five Terrorist Groups; ch.2, Provisional Irish Republican Army (48 pages)https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.7249/mg332nij.12?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents>Irish Republican Army Operational Training Manual "GREEN BOOK" I and IIhttps://cain.ulster.ac.uk/othelem/organ/ira/ira_green_book.htm>Tactical Innovation and the Provisional Irish Republican Armyhttps://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/1521069/3/Gill_Resub_Tactical%20Innovation%20and%20the%20Provisional%20Irish%20Republican%20Army(1).pdf>Operation Banner: An Analysis of Military Operations in Northern Irelandhttps://www.vilaweb.cat/media/attach/vwedts/docs/op_banner_analysis_released.pdfetc.Maybe you're just a lazy fuck?Or maybe you just wanted to start an IRA thread.
>>50842690Totally.I was not going to talk but my asshole lawyer told me if I didn't I would lose the case.When I got released 14 years later he told me "show us we made the right choice".>"WE"I always said he was the gatekeeper in my kafka-esque nightmare.
>>50828793British-Irish Commie Jews
>>50843192*No crime, no evidence, no DNA, all witnesses described a totally different guy, but since I said "Yeah I was in the city" the police were like "he just confirmed he was on the crime scene!"
>>50823578>Look at it as an anti-imperialist struggle during the very final moments of what remained of the British Empire. The Republicans took on a gloss of internationalist socialism to appeal to gain sympathy abroad. It was in vogue at the time. Look at Cuba, look at the PLO, and what was going on in Africa at the time. Internationalist socialism was the aesthetic of anti-imperialism, but not every group that donned was really that serious about socialism.They were commies, international socialism is communism/Stalinism they were commies or at least allied with them.
>>50822266Of course it is. Then we'll get to laugh as the Irish security services and their dog try to keep the peace.
>>50813619>guerilla warfare had served it's purpose.It served no purpose except turning people in the Republic against them. NI still exists and is still in the UK. The IRA failed, and then handed over their weapons.I'd love them to try again so we can unleash the SAS/SBS/SRR on them along with our drones and GCHQ.
>>50818415the IRA killed more irish people than the british army ever did during the troubles
>>50813547The IRA of the 70's waged what is, arguably, the most successful guerrilla campaign in history, and while they did not achieve their final goals, they were able to fight the British Army to a military stalemate. The IRA of today are a bunch of pozzed drug addicts who can't even manage a decent car bomb
>>50843972>a military stalematelol no. That was a policing stalemate.
>>50843972>IRA of the 70's waged what is, arguably, the most successful guerrilla campaign in historyLOL, do spud monkeys really think this? Look up a real guerilla compaign like the one Tito conducted against the Germans.
God Save The Queen
>>50823509>it worsens the birth rates of EuropeansI can't speak to the rates in Europe but here in burgerclapistan it's mostly niggers getting abortions. If abortion was banned here the shitskin population would explode
>>50843220that's some next-level disgusting right there
>>50820035>>50820129>gives af about not making digits, but not far offyup, on /k/